I think there's an extra layer of "desperation" with Bradley Cooper because he's (recently) been writing, directing, and starring in these movies with the singular aim of getting an Oscar. Everything in those movies' and their production revolves around him. Leo was working with very talented directors on their projects, so even when he got snubbed, it didn't feel like the sole purpose of those movies existing was to get Leo an Oscar.
You're right, it just felt like he was putting in the level of effort necessary to tell the story and be up for an Oscar. Not that he was doing everything in his power to force the award into his hand.
The Revenant was kinda Oscar-baity from Iñarritu's side too. It's also funny because Tom Hardy, the least desperate part of the movie, deserved an Oscar for that movie imo more than Leo did.
It's all about timing, remember Leonardo Dicaprio and Joaquin Phoenix finally won their first Oscar after so many years getting snubbed. Eventhough Leo should've won on either The Aviator or The Wolf of Wolf Street.
@@margarethmichelina5146 No way he could have won for Aviator against Jamie Foxx as Ray. Ray was simply genius. But,yeah, may be against Mccaughnohey for Dallas buyers.
Getting good roles (and even nominations) can also have a lot to do with privilege and connections, even more so than talent or effort. Cooper has been punching above his weight for most of his career. Is it really desperation? Or is it entitlement?
Only 5/12 of his nominations were for acting, the other ones were for other categories (e.g. Picture, Screenplay), and yet he still lost... I think it's pretty fair for him to go hard for a win here.
it's also just a security thing. a trophy turns you into a security hire to some degree, by studio people who are most worried about taking the blame for hiring "unproven" names. if you open a huge movie or 3 as a lead, or get the Oscar, you get the security of De Niro or Crowe for the rest of time, you have to worry about bombs a lot less.
Bradley: "Notice me, notice me, notice me!" Cillian: "Hey...Wow, I appreciate this. Thank you for noticing me, but really, let's focus on the film and the story..."
It's like being cool. The more you try to be cool, the less cool you actually are. If he stopped showing up it would probably help him more than campaigning
I concur entirely with your opinion, and I fail to comprehend the famous buzz surrounding Cooper. Given that he is confined to a single dimension, he does not have a crossover appeal. On the other hand, Robert Downey Jr. and Cillian Murphy are admired by various demographics.
Update on that note: Cillian skipped out on the mega A-Lister party Vanity Fair throws. He partied with his team, friends and family at a much smaller lower key party that Universal had in LA. He just vanished and did not walk another red carpet. All his costars and Nolan and other winners were at the splashy party and true to himself, he opted out. ❤
The whole film felt like a "for your consideration" reel. He's a talented man but he's currently making movies from an approach of "what will win me an award" vs making the actual storytelling the primary focus. That's why he couldnt compete with Chris Nolan and Cillian Murphy this year, they approached Oppenheimer with "how can we best tell the story of this man's impact" while Cooper approached Maestro with "how can I best showcase my talent for an Oscar". the intention comes through in the finished product. To put it simply - he's trying too hard and it shows.
Cillian dedicating the award to the peacemakers was especially moving. They told the story of the world we now live in, and he managed to make Oppenheimer a man you can empathize with. In today’s reality it seems foolish to believe we wouldn’t use that power if we had it but Cillian showed us a man who appeared to genuinely believe he was creating a tool to end all war - it was incredibly well done. Oscar very well deserved.
@@josephsf2452 Of course Bradley gave an Oscar worthy performance. He wouldn’t be nominated if he didn’t but it shows that his film and what he did was very Oscar baity. While Oppenheimer may check some Oscar baity aspects it isn’t entirely about that story wise. With Oppenheimer they made something on a grand scale while Maestro comes off as just a film that mainly tries to display Bradley’s performance.
It's pretty telling to me that most of the justifications for Cillian getting the award are either: A. He's such a kind, humble person off screen. B. The movie and its topic is so important culturally and historically. Neither of these have anything to do with his actual performance, which in my opinion was decent but nothing special. Certainly not Oscar worthy. It shouldn't matter what the perceived "intention" of a movie was, because really we have no idea what Cooper's true intention was with Maestro. Perhaps he was just fascinated with the man he was portraying? His performance (which was brilliant and Oscar worthy) certainly suggested as much. Also, you could just as easily label Oppenheimer with the "Oscar bait" title: 1. About a troubled genius/quantum physicist 2. It revolves around one of the most important scientific events in history 3. Constant back and forth changes in timeline 4. Use of black and white 5. Completely unnecessarily star studded cast Now, I don't think Nolan's movie was Oscar bait. But I do think he somehow convinced everyone into believing it was a masterpiece before anyone had even seen it, so confirmation bias was extremely heavy going into it. The movie itself was decent in some ways, but with absolutely awful pacing (Nolan had no choice to have 0.1 seconds between each scene otherwise the movie would've been pushing 4 hours), which left zero time for character development, so he had to rely on a big name cast to get us to care instead of the personalities themselves (one of the most insulting tricks a filmmaker can pull IMO). I'm still baffled at the accolades Oppenheimer has received as you can tell lol
you're overcomplicating the issue here - the problem was that Maestro was a wholly uninteresting film, a character study that lacked any real character development. the film doesn't have much of a story, or any real conflict, even. Bernstein meets his wife but then fools around with men, and his wife is kind of okay with it. it's boring.
And it is exactly the type of movie that would win Cooper (and maybe even Carey) a Leading Acting win, but after OscarsSoWhite and the Weinstein ordeal, plus how many more members were added, the type of performance that wins changed
Many actors have dwindled after winning the Oscar, while others who never won have the most spectacular careers and are remembered long after they pass.
@@deviantmoore9744 sometimes they do sometimes they don't. Either way, there's nothing wrong with someone aspiring to be the best they can be at something and to take pleasure in being recognized for it.
Look at The Wire, a show that's never been nominated or won a single Emmy, yet it's considered the greatest police drama of all time. Awards shows, especially in todays world of the internet, are meaningless.
I think people feel a certain way when they’ve been nominated so many times and haven’t won. Cause it’s saying you’re good enough to be nominated but not good enough to win.
It is, especially when you're starting out. But as their career progresses, they see peers with similar careers get recognized while they've been passed over. It can start to get to a person, just like us normies at our regular jobs.
Cillian Murphy isn't detached; he's simply an introvert who's not used to American style award campaigns, and needs his extrovert American(ized) colleagues to shore him up.
And, like pretty much everyone associated with Oppenheimer, they knew that they worked together as a team to make it successful. Even RD, jr knew that.
I honestly see Cooper winning like Denzel won for Training Day. It'll be for a movie that he elevates from being just a genre film. It will probably piss him off .
Re-watch Training Day. Look at all the actors surrounding Denzel. Ethan Hawke is good but not great. Other than him, you got Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, and that Polynesian actor playing a cholo. Denzel elevated that movie.
@@rho008 I think what makes Ethan's performance in that film come across as great as it does is just how much of a foil his character plays in the presence of Alonzo. Alonzo played with so much fire and intensity by Denzel kinda makes the fight to shed any signs of weakness feel even stronger.
Honestly Oppenheimer was just too strong a contender. CM was also amazing in it. So, in my mind it makes sense he won. No shade to BC, I'm sure he was amazing in Maestro, and it sounds like he put a lot of work into it. It's just unfortunate how much power not winning the Oscars can have over those nominated, especially if they've been nominated numerous times. I remember being surprised Nolan never won an Oscar until Oppenheimer, then I looked up Scorsese & Spielberg's Oscar wins/nominations and it's brutal.
Totally, you have to pick your year. It was like the year(s) Daniel Day Lewis was in the running for Lincoln or There Will Be Blood. No one else stood a chance in the Best Actor Category. Cooper would have been better off shelving for a year or two when there isn’t a sure thing to compete with. Half a competition is knowing your competitors
Yeah and I feel like cillian didn't force the character of oppenheimer at all. I read like 7 bios of oppie and, honestly, think he did perfectly. I can see the charismatic oppie everybody loved (because people were obsessed with real oppenheimer), the haunted man, the trouble man in his early years, etc. BC just exaggerates every movement to make it look artistic, meh
@@narunatsu1something I've noticed in general was that Cillian's approach to playing a real person was different than I usually hear. He said he wasn't wanting to do an "impression" of Oppenheimer, as much as he researched him and as a result it came off even more authentic A lot of bio films even when good sometimes have flavors of a sell or impression, and especially BC this year with Mastero, he was trying to sell he role....he said the ghost "came into" him on set
@@Starburst514 yeah, great point! I think that's what happened!! Also, I liked that cillian said that in most of the videos he saw of oppie, the man was kinda performing (like lecturing or giving an interview). So it would be weird for him to act in that way all the time. His performance was great imo
@@rebeccag8589 I thought he was clapping for real only later I found out, there's a guy under his chair. It's also cute to see how the dog is stay quiet the whole time watching the Oscar.
His work as Rocket Racoon honestly deserves a nomination over some of his more Oscar-bait stuff, but because it's both a voiceover and a superhero film he never got his due. Incredible character that's more memorable than his bi-annual attempts to win.
Right?? I haven't been as engaged in awards season like I was this year in yeeeeaaaars, idk what but everything aside there were a bunch of good movies. Even if Oppenheimer didn't win, something would have beat Mastero anyways
For the past 8 years or so, the academy voters seem to be getting away from the trend of awarding an actor because it’s their “turn.” It happened when Olivia Coleman beat out Glen Close. It seems to feel like a lot of people, myself included, feel like Cooper made Maestro to get an Oscar rather than to tell a story.
Is that so? With legendary Oscar-snubbed actors and actresses Julianne Moore, Gary Oldman and Leonardo diCaprio all getting their statues finally in the past 10 years, I would say this trend for me doesn't really feel like it's going anywhere soon.
@@UmbraKrameri your examples are all before Olivia Coleman’s win over Glen Close. Rosamund Pike.Had a more standout performance than Julianne Moore that year. DiCaprio didn’t have much competition beyond Bryan Cranston when he won. Not sure how many actual Oscar nominations Gary Oldman had prior to his win for playing Churchill, I can’t recall any and he’s often been accused of over acting. He doesn’t seem to be a serial nominee like Cooper.
My main problem with Maestro was there was no narrative structure, no indication of the pasaage of time, making it hard to keep up with. And the dialogue felt so forced and flat that it felt like a poorly written soap opera. Oscar bait of the highest level.
This comment is right on the nose. Besides pretty cinematography and Carey Mulligan, that film barely deserved to be in the running for Best Picture, let alone also Best Actor.
I haven’t seen Maestro but I thought A Star is Born had the same problem of not showing the passing of time effectively. I thought that movie was over hyped too.
Maestro focused too much on Bernstein’s personal life and not enough on the music. Everyone on this planet has a personal life. What made Bernstein worthy of a biopic was what he did with music.
"no indication of the passage of time/hard to keep up with/Oscar bait/flat dialogue" You took the words right out of my.. oh you're talking about Maestro, not about Oppenheimer.
Wait, he studied conducting for six years and yet all the conductors I have seen critiquing his conducting in the film say what he is doing is nonsense and would confuse an orchestra…. What he do during those six years?
I wanted Cilian to win because he has never won anything major for Peaky Blinders which is crazy to me. Someone like Bradley will get another chance but someone like Cilian is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Just my take.
It's easy to root for him because Cillian is a tremendous character actor who finally got to be at the top of the call sheet. Same as Jeffrey Wright this year!
I like to point something out. People were talking about Oppenheimer online when it came out, no one was talking about Maestro. Sometimes the subject matter of a film matter's to an audience too. People know about the Atomic Bomb, most don't know about Leonard Bernstein or being a orchestra conductor.
He worked impressively hard, but his intention began to look suspicious. It (seemed) to shift from honoring Leonard Bernstein to displaying his own process.
Are you saying this based on the movie itself or his interviews about the movie? Someone's perceived intention shouldn't come into the decision. It should just be about the performance itself, which was brilliant and Oscar worthy.
Such champagne problems rich people have. He has a great career, well paid, even get to direct and be nominated, many people will never be able ever, he has lived a great life and does what he loves. The rest its just greed If youre ever that blessed, be really really happy and thankful.
I thought Maestro was actually a good film, but also yes, I think BC seemed a bit too much like 'gimme an Oscar because I did all this'. On the other hand, Cillian Murphy remained humble and 'whatever will be, will be' about winning an Oscar.
Cillian Murphy is a better Actor than Bradley Cooper. Cillian deserved the Best Actor Oscar. Cillian is so talented, handsome and brilliant. He shines in everything he does.
If people didn't perceive Murphy as the plucky, humble, anti-Hollywood underdog then he wouldn't have won. Oscars are becoming too much of a personality contest, unfortunately.
@@SolarJakee get out of the online bubble. The academy has 10,000 voters, SAG has 160,000 voters. They are not paying attention to the online noise. Cillian won simply because he gave the best performance period. He was the favorite among his peers.
Honestly that film despite it's big box office is under rated. That said it was Sean Gunn who was the onset reference. It's not like Andy Sekris who was not only brilliant in the booth but also brilliant in mo-cap. More than that Rocket is essentially a Joe Pesci impersonation. I preferred GOTG3 over Maestro. Guardians was emotionally satisfying and Rocket in particular was the emotional crux of the story. That said a few weeks of work in the recording booth, never stepping on set and impersonating another actor should never be oscar worthy, or even nomination worthy. Especially when Sean Gunn had a part in the performance. It's even worse than Johnny Depp essentially doing a Keef impression for the pirates movies, at least Depp was on screen the whole time.
I love Bradley Cooper's work in general but his performance as Rocket just blew me away. He was so emotional and layered! He really elevates the Guardians movies.
I feel like this video also takes for granted how good Cillian Murphy really is, and while Bernstein is a beloved American icon, we're talking about the father of the atomic age. I mean come on.
You are right there. I have seen a couple shows and movies about the birth of the atomic bomb and he is the first to play Oppenheimer that didn't make me think he was a cold blood asshole with a God complex.
Framing it as the Bernstein vs Oppenheimer legacy is disingenuous. It's that Oppenheimer was a much better film made by a great director loved by the general public starring an actor who has slowly lowkey accumulated goodwill for his work on film and tv over 20 years.
The thing with Maestro for me is that it felt more than a vanity project more than a genuine desire to tell the story of one of the greatest Broadway composers of all time. And even if that wasn’t the case, I don’t think the film stood out more in regard to Bradley’s acting in the way his other nominees, in particular Cillian, did.
Agreed. I think it being a vanity project for Bradley Cooper just makes his performance too self-aware. Whereas because Oppenheimer is Chris Nolan's vision, so it allows Cillian Murphy breathing room to just inhabit the character without becoming too self-conscious. It's also probably why people preferred Carey Mulligan to Cooper and why she was more natural on screen than him.
I'm going to be honest- I found Maestro very difficult to watch. Carey Mulligan truly was the entire heart of that film- you physically see a shift and a lift once she enters on screen from the first thirty or so minutes dragging on. It was an ego project for Bradley, wrapped in probably a sincere effort to make a good film for the Bernstein family.
Same here. I could barely sit through Maestro and found Bradley's performance so indulgent and off-putting it was almost funny compared to Carey Mulligan who just was luminous on screen even with the weak material.
@@TheDreamingJune Exactly! Carey was such a breath of fresh air and felt like a real person, that every time it switched perspective to Bradley's performance (especially when they were acting opposite each other), it was almost cartoonish in comparison.
I like Bradley Cooper, though not in this specific movie. And he always gets huge roles. This is Cillian’s first huge role in a huge movie. He completely carried that film and he’s clearly uncomfortable with the level of attention he’s receiving. He doesn’t want to be a celebrity and he’s always directing the praise he receives towards the other people he’s worked with. Bradley Cooper was a household name before this movie and will remain one. But Cillian’s performance was one of the most career defining ones and he was directed by Nolan, who was long overdue for his Oscar.
I remember Will Smith did the same for years until 2015 he just focused on being in good movies then an Oscar was thrown his way. People can tell when you’re Oscar baiting no matter how well the performance is, and they won’t buy it.
He kept doing what he did pre 2015 as you claim. Takes "cool" roles in movies with creatures/love in them, sometimes dramatic roles like Ali and Pursuit of happiness. Be only lead, not take roles like Django because Shultz was also pivotal. He was in Alladin - a love story, Bright with creatures, and that tennis movie - a fucking oscar bait.
Cillian had the best performance, Cooper's desperation has nothing to do with it. Cillian has had a long carreer of incredible performances since day one, and has long been ignored but he just kept doing the good work. This year the stars aligned and he had the best performance in a film that was noticed and rightfully rewarded. If you look at each category Maestro was nominated in, the other films and actors were much better. Even without Oppenheimer, it wouldn't have made any difference.
I've never heard very few man talk about hating Anne Hathaway but I've heard countless women say that very thing. Same goes for Jennifer Aniston. Do you have a take on that perhaps?
The cast of Oppenheimer didn’t have to do much promoting, and they turned out alright. In Cooper’s case, the more you show your ego, the less likely people will be convinced you deserve an Oscar.
They didn't promote it for the writers strike, but the dune cast promoted A LOT and it feel okey, i feel like cast the nicest young actors and put them together
I remember a video a few years back that was called "Roger Deakins is a loser" and proceded to show all his nomination and ended with Bladerunner 2049 and the letters "good luck". I believe it´s harder to win an Oscar in particular crafts behind the camera and even if you win it´s not as celebrated or as well known the person who won it. Leo became a meme for not wining on his 5 nominations before the revenant. but Deakins had been nominated a whopping 13 times and was not made fun of. I believe the audience and the people tend to be more cruel to the actors over the people behind the camera.
Bradley Cooper suffers from Angelina Jolie Syndrome. This is when a decent but unspectacular actor works really, really, really, really, really hard to stretch their talent and craft -- and you can see all the work right on screen. Michelle Williams is another one. Good actors give an excellent performance. Great ones disappear into a role. The great ones are few and far between. One reason why Leonardo DiCaprio had to put himself through hell to win an Oscar is that in his entire post-Titanic career, you never for one minute forget you're watching Leonardo DiCaprio. Yes, even in "The Wolf of Wall Street," which is is best post-Titanic work. I'm also not certain that impersonation of a real-life familiar figure of whom a lot of footage exists qualifies as great acting as much as it does mimicry. From all accounts, Cooper is a really nice guy; one of the nicest in the industry. But that doesn't guarantee an Oscar either.
@@Aaron-kj8dv I'm the wrong person to talk about this because I think everything Pacino has done since Godfather I and II has been just scenery-chewing.
Bradley gets it, what the movie going public of 2023 is looking for is a biopic Leonard Bernstein. Fact is, most people only know the name Bernstein as being bears. But its also a Oscar trope if you want an oscar, do a biopic.
A lot of people will make fun of Bradley Cooper but he did something that most people in the general population don’t do and that is following though with your goals and dreams. The outcome might not be what we want but a lot of you make plans and do nothing with your lives but make fun of people that applied themselves and come up short. Some of you need help but misery loves company.
You had me until you had to insinuate people who dare to not like whats ultimately still a showoffy Oscar bait film are miserable or just dont "work hard enough" to achieve their dreams. LOTS of luck is involved. But nah, just lazy and miserable imr
Tell that to the people who would love to follow their hopes and dreams but live in a developing country and, therefore, have to make sacrifices to feed the rest of their family. Just because someone isn't working towards their dream doesn't mean that they're too lazy to follow through.
It's not Bradley's fault that he was against Oppenheimer and Barbie, two films that were really over the top. Bradley's impersonation of Berstein is amazing. The competition, however, eclipsed his excellent film.
The sweetness of watching Judy Garland's character win an Oscar *in* "A Star Is Born", yet Judy shockingly failed to win the award *for* her towering performance as the Oscar-winning character. That loss is certain to remain on the books as the most overlooked acting Oscar win in the history of film -- past, present and future.
That one was 100% political. I agree she should have won, but she'd developed a reputation with studios as being very difficult to work with (due to her mental and substance abuse struggles largely caused by them). Grace Kelly played against type and was good (not great, imo), and she was the it girl then, and known for being very easy to work with. But A Star is Born and Judy's performance clearly had the staying power that A Country Girl did not.
Wait a minute: the entire point of the Andrea Riseborough thing last year was that the producers of For Lesley didn't had any money for a big campaign, so they basicly just asked some industry friends to put in a good word for them. I don’t know if this broke any rules, but if you believe that campaigning with integrity involves having enough money to buy adds and hire a press agent that can get you on talk shows, you have a very capitalist view of integrity.
Well said. It is well known that campaigns have a lot to do with who will win an Oscar. There have been many controversial Oscar winners that inarguably were not worthy of their win, such as "Shakespeare in Love", the "Green Book", and "Crash", which come to mind in terms of Best Picture Winners who did not deserve to win when posited against other movies that were nominated as well. Harvey Weinstein made a ruthless campaign to have "Shakespeare in Love", crowned as best picture and it worked. The Oscars should not be as coveted as they are.
Riseborough caught flack for supposedly knocking out Danielle Deadwyler when that energy should have been reserved for Michelle Williams who was nominated as a Lead instead of Supporting in an environment where black women often have to campaign as supporting even when they're leads to get recognized at all (see Viola Davis).
An other thing about Bradleys performance in Maestro was, it just didn’t feel like he wanted to play Bernstein because of Bernstein! It didn’t feel like he took the role on because he cared about Bernstein’s as a person, as a musician as a historical figure or his achievements. And that he wanted to say something about all that. Maybe he did, but it just did not come across that way. It just felt like he wanted to use this charismatic historical fugue to win an oscar. But he is a great actor and i am sure he will win some day🙂
Marlon Brando wowed everyone with his non-classical, method acting in ‘A Streetcar Named Desire’ but Humphrey Bogart took the Oscar because of politicking and name recognition. He just wanted one. (Source: BeKindRewind)
Hollywood awards don’t always go to the most deserving. The fact that it has a “campaign” proves that. Show business is still a business and not solely about pure art as they would want you to believe
He's a great actor and he doesn't need an Oscar, but I feel like the Internet's scorn for his "desperation" is really obnoxious and often mean-spirited. Dude wants to win an Oscar -- al right, great, so do I. People are so fast to assume the worst in others. If Cooper gives a performance in the future that is worthy of winning, I hope he does win. Personally, I think he's had some bad luck with the years he's been nominated -- Silver Linings and A Star Is Born both would've been worthy winners, but had stiff competition.
That tacky selfie with the other Queen of Me-Me-Me, Ellen Degenerate, told us everything we need to know. His best role was Burnt, because he didn't need to fake being self-absorbed.
What gave me the ick (as the kids say) was the podcast interview Cooper did about how he he struggled to love his newborn daughter, and how it took him 8 months to figure out that he did in fact love his kid. Like dude, think you think that was *endearing*???
I can't feel sorry for Bradley Cooper when I think of all the incredible talents that were denied an Oscar, eg: Peter O'Toole. Montgomery Clift. Alan Rickman. Glen Close. And despite the clips, Judy Garland never won an Oscar or Emmy despite numerous nominations.
Achieving an Oscar without engaging in traditional campaigning involves delivering a performance of such unparalleled excellence that it will elicit universal awe from actors across the globe, leaving them pondering, "How the hell did he/she do that?" If you can make actors say this to themselves, you'll have your Oscar. That was the key to Daniel Day Lewis' Oscar.
People need to stop antagonising Bradley Cooper. Can't we just be happy for recognition of great performances rather than making it about hating on Bradley. Also people are pulling Cillian in this dumb fight with comparison. Leave both of them alone.
Nominations are good enough, it does count as recognition from your peers. Out of all the hundreds/thousands of movies made every year, it all comes down to 10 best picture nominees, 5 best actor candidates, etc. So Bradley shouldn't have taken offense with that jab from that director whoever that was. Don't need to care what anybody else says, nomination is solidly, a recognition from the Academy (your fellow peers). Actually winning the trophy is just a bonus. 12 nominations is equivalent to 3 time Oscar winner. That's a good enough reputation to carry around the industry, compared to the thousands of other struggling actors and filmmakers out there.
8:55 says all that needs to be said. Actors are usually told how similar their performances are to the real person they're playing. Then there's Cooper bringing the man's family to an interview where Cooper himself brags about how great of a performance it was and saying "it's happening!" as if he couldn't care less about the story itself, only about it being his passport to an Oscar win.
Just as people are calling Downey's Oscar a "Career Win", Cooper's loss was a "Career Loss". He's just done too much garabage. It's never good to Direct, Write, Produce and Star in a bio if you're not Orsen Wells.
Reminds me of Austin Butler on his Oscar campaign last year with his movie Elvis. The whole thing was cringe, exhausting and don’t get me started on his Elvis accent he couldn’t get rid of after the movie 🙄
I guess you guys forgot around that time was Jennifer Lawrence peak of people seeing her as ordinary just like us plain Jane and Hathaway as a theater kid who wanted as much as Cooper.
@@mrlogan-ut2te I completely missed it, mostly because I didn't pay attention to it. I was "Trailer, maybe an interview if it couldn't be avoided, maybe see them at the Oscars or MTV Movie Awards." And that was it. I kept my exposure limited.
I think because she's so try hard. It's actually the same thing that people are critical of Bradley Cooper in this video. Trying hard comes off as super disingenuous
Yea, Bradley directing himself definitely influenced things. He's not the first person to choose a biopic project thinking it'll get him an Oscar however. But now that his desperation is transparent it'll be hard for him to get one, imo. People like him and Amy Adams and Glenn Close become labeled as "someone who just gets nominated and that's it." It's like giving someone a birthday gift. If that person keeps asking when they're going to get their gift you kind of don't want to give it to them then. It's the element of surprise and that person not expecting anything that brings the giver joy.
But wasn't Leo like that they gave him one, I am not defending him just curious ultimately it is all politics. The best example is Will Smith it was nauseating how actively he campaigned for years and he wins it on the year he assaults someone on stage. But the bigger truth is Will is black you can only deny him for so long if they didn't give him one soon he will throw a tantrum and call them racist, his Oscar is more like shut up now and please go away don't bother us. I didn't think Amy Adams and Glenn Close actively campaigned that was not the reason they didn't win it was bad luck, but I see glenn close winning an honorary Oscar for her body of work in the future and Amy is still young she has time. Coming back to Bradley he will eventually get it, but if he knocks long hard enough they will eventually open the door for him.
Bradley's 'dig' at Cillian was so unnecessary and quite damaging as it transpired. Cillian is by far, one of the great actors, he emerces into the character gives a stellar performance, then goes home to his wife and children to live a quiet, normal everyman life.
I’m not a fan of Cooper but I really rooted for him in 2019. His ASIB performance was incredible and much more Oscar-worthy than Maleks. I never saw Cooper on the screen, there was only Jackson Maine.
In my opinion, and I must say I have nothing against Bradley Cooper because I have seen almost every money he is in, his role in “Maestro” seemed like a caricature more than an actual acting performance. To me Cillian Murphy delivers so much with a restrained acting performance, and I always thought he was the only one he deserved to win every award for best actor, this award season. I liked Bradley in “A Star is Born” though. But in “Maestro” the only thing I liked was actually Carey Mulligan.
Being nominated for top level awards should be recognized as an honor. Only one person can take home the statue; that doesn't mean there are 4 "losers".
I think the response he gave on that interview about his preparation for the role of Bernstein, where he was clearly attacking other actors' job and putting himself as "the one", gave us a hint of the type of actor he has become. I feel like that had a huge impact on his own colleagues not voting for him in any of the awards he was nominated for. And Maestro was a huge dissapointment for fans of Bernstein. It wasn't a bad film, just really seemed that he wrote it to get an Oscar and not for his admiration to the real person.
Exactly! He didn't talk about why people should watch it. You know what makes Cillian better --- Cillian talked about his character and how everyone in the cast worked together to tell a story of the guy who created an Atomic Bomb. He never focused on how many months on losing weight --- he focused on telling a story from Oppenheimer's point of view and humanizing the character.
Wth are these comments. Bradley has a passion for making movies and gets very enthusiastic about them. And wants to learn everything about the craft. It's not a 'notice me, give me an Oscar' kind of thing. If you've watched his interviews over the years, that's not the kind of picture you get of him. And I'm not saying he should've won but I'm bewildered by these comments.
To be fair, Cillian Murphy gave a very good performance in one of the most succesful and critically acclaimed movies of the year. There wasn't an awful need for "campaigning" of any sorts. Cooper on the other hand had to shoulder Netlix's only shot at the Oscars. I wouldn't blame him for giving it everything he got.
The movie was terrible though. It barely had any plot, just here's the most salacious details of Leonard's life and his struggle with sexuality which I can't believe was the most interesting story to tell to Bradley Cooper. I left with no deeper understanding of Leonard Bernstein at all.
Leo wasn’t desperate for an awards, public was! First I remember those days, people genuinely were confused how actor like Leo didn’t won yet, 2016 award season internet campaign for him, he didn’t even needed do anything😏 He always was Art above everything else. Bradley is so obviously desperate, he makes Oscar bait movie just for awards not art. Cillian is natural and humble guy, little introvert. For him Art comes first. And gets awarded and people happy for him. Bradley forgot, main ingredient is sincerity in craft!
I thought Cooper was good in a bad movie, but I thought Murphy was better in a great movie. It's not that deep. And if Cillian wouldn't have got it, Paul Giamatti would have. Bradley was maybe the 4th best person nominated.
This video is exactly why I don’t agree with Leo getting an Oscar for The Revenant. It was a wholly OK movie and performance, far from his best work, but because he campaigned for years and got enough people behind him and he finally got one. A pity Oscar. Congratulations.
Ummm I could be wrong, but I always felt like Cillian Murphy was very underrated (Partly because of how he looks, and partly because - gonna say it: His nationality). I got to witness people actually being offensive towards the Irish in the comments section for the KB AW win here on YT 2 years ago. Peaky Blinders might be a great show, but I never watched it because it was never promoted to me by Netflix, unlike, say: Emily in Paris. I can't comment on Bradly Cooper, but I feel like a lot of Murphy's "real person" personality is what ultimately made him more "popular".
I remember watching Oppenheimer and when I left the theater I told my husband that we just saw the Academy Award winner for best actor…movie of the year…and the best score. Oppenheimer was just that good in catching the struggles people in academia experience and the politics that come with it.
In my opinion dont focus on winning instead focus to his role as an actor..Rami Malek always said that it was not lost on me pointing to all sctors whom he nominated with.. That's wonderful..He always said he need the job..That should be the attitude of all actors & actresses
I disagree with the take in regards to Getting a an Oscar is a great boost for actors . That’s isnt the case for for Black Actors and Actresses- most cases their career take a considerable hit.
I think there's an extra layer of "desperation" with Bradley Cooper because he's (recently) been writing, directing, and starring in these movies with the singular aim of getting an Oscar. Everything in those movies' and their production revolves around him.
Leo was working with very talented directors on their projects, so even when he got snubbed, it didn't feel like the sole purpose of those movies existing was to get Leo an Oscar.
You're right, it just felt like he was putting in the level of effort necessary to tell the story and be up for an Oscar. Not that he was doing everything in his power to force the award into his hand.
@@elijahalbiston So true.
The Revenant was kinda Oscar-baity from Iñarritu's side too. It's also funny because Tom Hardy, the least desperate part of the movie, deserved an Oscar for that movie imo more than Leo did.
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@@roadrollerdio565don't understand. Why on earth Iñarritu would be Oscar baiting having just won a Oscar?
Honestly, Amy Adams winning will be the day.
She should not do it with a movie where she uses an accent. She’s not Meryl Streep or Toni Collette when it comes to accents.
Yep. She is so much a better actor than Bradley Cooper
@@DC-wk7yoI think they're about equal.
It's all about timing, remember Leonardo Dicaprio and Joaquin Phoenix finally won their first Oscar after so many years getting snubbed. Eventhough Leo should've won on either The Aviator or The Wolf of Wolf Street.
@@margarethmichelina5146 No way he could have won for Aviator against Jamie Foxx as Ray. Ray was simply genius. But,yeah, may be against Mccaughnohey for Dallas buyers.
If you get 12 nominations, then you must get a lot of good roles. Cooper has established himself as an outstanding actor. He's got nothing to prove.
Getting good roles (and even nominations) can also have a lot to do with privilege and connections, even more so than talent or effort. Cooper has been punching above his weight for most of his career. Is it really desperation? Or is it entitlement?
Only 5/12 of his nominations were for acting, the other ones were for other categories (e.g. Picture, Screenplay), and yet he still lost... I think it's pretty fair for him to go hard for a win here.
it's also just a security thing. a trophy turns you into a security hire to some degree, by studio people who are most worried about taking the blame for hiring "unproven" names. if you open a huge movie or 3 as a lead, or get the Oscar, you get the security of De Niro or Crowe for the rest of time, you have to worry about bombs a lot less.
Tell that to him 🤷🏼♂️
He needs to know that
Bradley: "Notice me, notice me, notice me!"
Cillian: "Hey...Wow, I appreciate this. Thank you for noticing me, but really, let's focus on the film and the story..."
It's like being cool. The more you try to be cool, the less cool you actually are.
If he stopped showing up it would probably help him more than campaigning
Seriously. It borders on entitlement
@@Aaron-kj8dvsame with greta and margot
I concur entirely with your opinion, and I fail to comprehend the famous buzz surrounding Cooper. Given that he is confined to a single dimension, he does not have a crossover appeal. On the other hand, Robert Downey Jr. and Cillian Murphy are admired by various demographics.
Update on that note: Cillian skipped out on the mega A-Lister party Vanity Fair throws. He partied with his team, friends and family at a much smaller lower key party that Universal had in LA. He just vanished and did not walk another red carpet.
All his costars and Nolan and other winners were at the splashy party and true to himself, he opted out. ❤
The whole film felt like a "for your consideration" reel. He's a talented man but he's currently making movies from an approach of "what will win me an award" vs making the actual storytelling the primary focus. That's why he couldnt compete with Chris Nolan and Cillian Murphy this year, they approached Oppenheimer with "how can we best tell the story of this man's impact" while Cooper approached Maestro with "how can I best showcase my talent for an Oscar". the intention comes through in the finished product. To put it simply - he's trying too hard and it shows.
What a horrible negative review. It's all about perspective. I was incredulous at Bradley's Bernstein character.
Cillian dedicating the award to the peacemakers was especially moving. They told the story of the world we now live in, and he managed to make Oppenheimer a man you can empathize with. In today’s reality it seems foolish to believe we wouldn’t use that power if we had it but Cillian showed us a man who appeared to genuinely believe he was creating a tool to end all war - it was incredibly well done. Oscar very well deserved.
@@josephsf2452 Of course Bradley gave an Oscar worthy performance. He wouldn’t be nominated if he didn’t but it shows that his film and what he did was very Oscar baity. While Oppenheimer may check some Oscar baity aspects it isn’t entirely about that story wise. With Oppenheimer they made something on a grand scale while Maestro comes off as just a film that mainly tries to display Bradley’s performance.
It's pretty telling to me that most of the justifications for Cillian getting the award are either:
A. He's such a kind, humble person off screen.
B. The movie and its topic is so important culturally and historically.
Neither of these have anything to do with his actual performance, which in my opinion was decent but nothing special. Certainly not Oscar worthy.
It shouldn't matter what the perceived "intention" of a movie was, because really we have no idea what Cooper's true intention was with Maestro. Perhaps he was just fascinated with the man he was portraying? His performance (which was brilliant and Oscar worthy) certainly suggested as much.
Also, you could just as easily label Oppenheimer with the "Oscar bait" title:
1. About a troubled genius/quantum physicist
2. It revolves around one of the most important scientific events in history
3. Constant back and forth changes in timeline
4. Use of black and white
5. Completely unnecessarily star studded cast
Now, I don't think Nolan's movie was Oscar bait. But I do think he somehow convinced everyone into believing it was a masterpiece before anyone had even seen it, so confirmation bias was extremely heavy going into it. The movie itself was decent in some ways, but with absolutely awful pacing (Nolan had no choice to have 0.1 seconds between each scene otherwise the movie would've been pushing 4 hours), which left zero time for character development, so he had to rely on a big name cast to get us to care instead of the personalities themselves (one of the most insulting tricks a filmmaker can pull IMO).
I'm still baffled at the accolades Oppenheimer has received as you can tell lol
@@SolarJakeewe can tell that you have no taste lol.
you're overcomplicating the issue here - the problem was that Maestro was a wholly uninteresting film, a character study that lacked any real character development. the film doesn't have much of a story, or any real conflict, even. Bernstein meets his wife but then fools around with men, and his wife is kind of okay with it. it's boring.
Exactly. I was so excited for this movie and left scratching my head thinking WTF was that
Yes, I find the movie really boring
Spot on! It's the worst movie of the ten.
That's all I heard from people who saw it. Totally boring 😂
And it is exactly the type of movie that would win Cooper (and maybe even Carey) a Leading Acting win, but after OscarsSoWhite and the Weinstein ordeal, plus how many more members were added, the type of performance that wins changed
Many actors have dwindled after winning the Oscar, while others who never won have the most spectacular careers and are remembered long after they pass.
Just like with the Grammys. These awards are just for ego, they don't actually do much for an artist.
@@deviantmoore9744 sometimes they do sometimes they don't.
Either way, there's nothing wrong with someone aspiring to be the best they can be at something and to take pleasure in being recognized for it.
Look at The Wire, a show that's never been nominated or won a single Emmy, yet it's considered the greatest police drama of all time. Awards shows, especially in todays world of the internet, are meaningless.
Willem Defoe for example
@@deviantmoore9744body of work doesn't exist for the music industry.
Sometimes I wish Bradley could go back to do the fun type of roles that he did in the Hangover movies, A Team, and Limitless
His first Oscar nomination got to his head. He should be able to do both.
Rocky Raccoon 🦝
Good luck
He has a cameo in Dungeons and dragons
An Oscar nomination is already a recognition
I think people feel a certain way when they’ve been nominated so many times and haven’t won. Cause it’s saying you’re good enough to be nominated but not good enough to win.
These nominations don’t mean The film is such a great deal… Maestro ia simply boring
It is, especially when you're starting out. But as their career progresses, they see peers with similar careers get recognized while they've been passed over. It can start to get to a person, just like us normies at our regular jobs.
@@abandonedfragmentofhope5415 Deborah Kerr and Glenn close were nominated several times. They're more respected than most Oscar winners
@@Titanscw Yes but they wanted to win at least once remember.
Cillian Murphy isn't detached; he's simply an introvert who's not used to American style award campaigns, and needs his extrovert American(ized) colleagues to shore him up.
And, like pretty much everyone associated with Oppenheimer, they knew that they worked together as a team to make it successful. Even RD, jr knew that.
And he’s one of the more “normal” celebs.
He's like this with European media as well. Just introverted
I honestly see Cooper winning like Denzel won for Training Day. It'll be for a movie that he elevates from being just a genre film. It will probably piss him off .
So true. He's fantastic in the GotG movies of all things lol.
Re-watch Training Day. Look at all the actors surrounding Denzel. Ethan Hawke is good but not great. Other than him, you got Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, and that Polynesian actor playing a cholo. Denzel elevated that movie.
@@rho008he IS that movie; right from the start when they meet at the diner
@@rho008 Also Ethen Hawke is not a showy kind of actor and of the two Denzel has the flashier role.
@@rho008 I think what makes Ethan's performance in that film come across as great as it does is just how much of a foil his character plays in the presence of Alonzo.
Alonzo played with so much fire and intensity by Denzel kinda makes the fight to shed any signs of weakness feel even stronger.
Honestly Oppenheimer was just too strong a contender. CM was also amazing in it. So, in my mind it makes sense he won. No shade to BC, I'm sure he was amazing in Maestro, and it sounds like he put a lot of work into it. It's just unfortunate how much power not winning the Oscars can have over those nominated, especially if they've been nominated numerous times. I remember being surprised Nolan never won an Oscar until Oppenheimer, then I looked up Scorsese & Spielberg's Oscar wins/nominations and it's brutal.
Totally, you have to pick your year.
It was like the year(s) Daniel Day Lewis was in the running for Lincoln or There Will Be Blood. No one else stood a chance in the Best Actor Category.
Cooper would have been better off shelving for a year or two when there isn’t a sure thing to compete with.
Half a competition is knowing your competitors
I respect that@@ginao6810
Yeah and I feel like cillian didn't force the character of oppenheimer at all. I read like 7 bios of oppie and, honestly, think he did perfectly. I can see the charismatic oppie everybody loved (because people were obsessed with real oppenheimer), the haunted man, the trouble man in his early years, etc. BC just exaggerates every movement to make it look artistic, meh
@@narunatsu1something I've noticed in general was that Cillian's approach to playing a real person was different than I usually hear. He said he wasn't wanting to do an "impression" of Oppenheimer, as much as he researched him and as a result it came off even more authentic
A lot of bio films even when good sometimes have flavors of a sell or impression, and especially BC this year with Mastero, he was trying to sell he role....he said the ghost "came into" him on set
@@Starburst514 yeah, great point! I think that's what happened!!
Also, I liked that cillian said that in most of the videos he saw of oppie, the man was kinda performing (like lecturing or giving an interview). So it would be weird for him to act in that way all the time. His performance was great imo
You know who else is snubbed on the Oscar this year? The dog from Anatomy of a Fall.
I was so excited the dog came to the Oscars! That and I'm Just Ken were the highlights for me.
@@rebeccag8589 I thought he was clapping for real only later I found out, there's a guy under his chair. It's also cute to see how the dog is stay quiet the whole time watching the Oscar.
Justice for Messi!
I haven’t seen the movie but the dog looked cute
@@mariaskabardonis8353he was amazing in the movie, he made me cry.
His work as Rocket Racoon honestly deserves a nomination over some of his more Oscar-bait stuff, but because it's both a voiceover and a superhero film he never got his due. Incredible character that's more memorable than his bi-annual attempts to win.
What a stupid take. He shouldn’t be nominated for that role.
Definitely agree that superhero films are overlooked for acting noms, and that voice acting should get an award at the Oscars.
Aww I didn’t know that was his voice
@@OpticalSorcerer most of the super hero films r trash
@@mortystraphouse5077 Many of the ones I've seen have had great performances.
People don’t realize that this year has to be the most powerful and competitive oscars in YEARS.
Right?? I haven't been as engaged in awards season like I was this year in yeeeeaaaars, idk what but everything aside there were a bunch of good movies. Even if Oppenheimer didn't win, something would have beat Mastero anyways
a part of me is still not over Jake Gyllenhaal's Nightcrawler snub
Great movie, must give it a re-watch
Neither am I. Jake was fantasticly unsettling in that film.
I’m personally not over Toni Collette’s snub for Hereditary.
Jake and Rosamund Pije for Gone Girl
No kidding, me too.
For the past 8 years or so, the academy voters seem to be getting away from the trend of awarding an actor because it’s their “turn.” It happened when Olivia Coleman beat out Glen Close.
It seems to feel like a lot of people, myself included, feel like Cooper made Maestro to get an Oscar rather than to tell a story.
Is that so? With legendary Oscar-snubbed actors and actresses Julianne Moore, Gary Oldman and Leonardo diCaprio all getting their statues finally in the past 10 years, I would say this trend for me doesn't really feel like it's going anywhere soon.
Jamie Lee Curtis win last year would tell otherwise in my opinion (Stefanie Hsu amongst others were bigger standouts).
@@goodial Jamie Lee Curtis isn’t a serial Oscar nominee like Bradley Cooper.
And then they awarded Jamie lee Curtis 😂
@@UmbraKrameri your examples are all before Olivia Coleman’s win over Glen Close. Rosamund Pike.Had a more standout performance than Julianne Moore that year. DiCaprio didn’t have much competition beyond Bryan Cranston when he won. Not sure how many actual Oscar nominations Gary Oldman had prior to his win for playing Churchill, I can’t recall any and he’s often been accused of over acting. He doesn’t seem to be a serial nominee like Cooper.
My main problem with Maestro was there was no narrative structure, no indication of the pasaage of time, making it hard to keep up with. And the dialogue felt so forced and flat that it felt like a poorly written soap opera. Oscar bait of the highest level.
This comment is right on the nose. Besides pretty cinematography and Carey Mulligan, that film barely deserved to be in the running for Best Picture, let alone also Best Actor.
I haven’t seen Maestro but I thought A Star is Born had the same problem of not showing the passing of time effectively. I thought that movie was over hyped too.
It was disjointed and missed the mark on Bernstein's revolutionary musical genius.
Maestro focused too much on Bernstein’s personal life and not enough on the music. Everyone on this planet has a personal life. What made Bernstein worthy of a biopic was what he did with music.
"no indication of the passage of time/hard to keep up with/Oscar bait/flat dialogue"
You took the words right out of my.. oh you're talking about Maestro, not about Oppenheimer.
Wait, he studied conducting for six years and yet all the conductors I have seen critiquing his conducting in the film say what he is doing is nonsense and would confuse an orchestra…. What he do during those six years?
So the director's fault is
Bradley is the director 😂
Sounds like bro either wasn't studying as hard as he said he was or flat out lied lol
He lied. Just like Austin Butler saying his voice was forever changed because of Elvis.
@@hothotheat3000 how do you even sleep at night, telling all those lies?
I wanted Cilian to win because he has never won anything major for Peaky Blinders which is crazy to me. Someone like Bradley will get another chance but someone like Cilian is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Just my take.
Same take for Lily Gladstone. She might not get another chance this big
It's easy to root for him because Cillian is a tremendous character actor who finally got to be at the top of the call sheet. Same as Jeffrey Wright this year!
I like to point something out. People were talking about Oppenheimer online when it came out, no one was talking about Maestro. Sometimes the subject matter of a film matter's to an audience too. People know about the Atomic Bomb, most don't know about Leonard Bernstein or being a orchestra conductor.
Generally more obscure topics work in the favor of Oscar nominees.
He worked impressively hard, but his intention began to look suspicious. It (seemed) to shift from honoring Leonard Bernstein to displaying his own process.
Totally. He seems to have a massive ego and I've never been a fan.
and what's wrong with that? My God, look what social-media has created: EVERYONE is a CRITIC
Are you saying this based on the movie itself or his interviews about the movie?
Someone's perceived intention shouldn't come into the decision. It should just be about the performance itself, which was brilliant and Oscar worthy.
@@josephsf2452lol yeah 😂
These guys obviously don't know anything about acting
Such champagne problems rich people have.
He has a great career, well paid, even get to direct and be nominated, many people will never be able ever, he has lived a great life and does what he loves.
The rest its just greed
If youre ever that blessed, be really really happy and thankful.
I thought Maestro was actually a good film, but also yes, I think BC seemed a bit too much like 'gimme an Oscar because I did all this'. On the other hand, Cillian Murphy remained humble and 'whatever will be, will be' about winning an Oscar.
Cillian Murphy is a better Actor than Bradley Cooper. Cillian deserved the Best Actor Oscar. Cillian is so talented, handsome and brilliant. He shines in everything he does.
@@dextermoore278 I'd love to know what meds you're on or what you're smoking. 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
@@josephsf2452 Cillian was the best in the category. It's what the majority of 10k oscar voters believed and that's why he won.
If people didn't perceive Murphy as the plucky, humble, anti-Hollywood underdog then he wouldn't have won.
Oscars are becoming too much of a personality contest, unfortunately.
@@SolarJakee get out of the online bubble. The academy has 10,000 voters, SAG has 160,000 voters. They are not paying attention to the online noise. Cillian won simply because he gave the best performance period. He was the favorite among his peers.
It's really very simple Cillian had the best performance and he did not 🙄
It’s not as simple , oscars constantly look great performances
Brad is just too desperate
Came here to say that.
Well the best performance was Zac Efron in The Iron Claw and he didn't get a nomination... Oppenheimer was a fierce force.
@@dloregonlin31 😂😂
Disagree
I'm being so serious when I say that Bradley Coopers best performance was in GOTG3 and that was an Oscar worthy performance
voice work doesn't get recognised enough!!!
Nah I disagree, good movie though.
Honestly that film despite it's big box office is under rated. That said it was Sean Gunn who was the onset reference. It's not like Andy Sekris who was not only brilliant in the booth but also brilliant in mo-cap. More than that Rocket is essentially a Joe Pesci impersonation.
I preferred GOTG3 over Maestro. Guardians was emotionally satisfying and Rocket in particular was the emotional crux of the story. That said a few weeks of work in the recording booth, never stepping on set and impersonating another actor should never be oscar worthy, or even nomination worthy. Especially when Sean Gunn had a part in the performance.
It's even worse than Johnny Depp essentially doing a Keef impression for the pirates movies, at least Depp was on screen the whole time.
I love Bradley Cooper's work in general but his performance as Rocket just blew me away. He was so emotional and layered! He really elevates the Guardians movies.
that movie was disgusting
I feel like this video also takes for granted how good Cillian Murphy really is, and while Bernstein is a beloved American icon, we're talking about the father of the atomic age. I mean come on.
Exactly... like, its no competition.
This they can't bring themselves to acknowledge how talented Cillian is
You are right there. I have seen a couple shows and movies about the birth of the atomic bomb and he is the first to play Oppenheimer that didn't make me think he was a cold blood asshole with a God complex.
Framing it as the Bernstein vs Oppenheimer legacy is disingenuous. It's that Oppenheimer was a much better film made by a great director loved by the general public starring an actor who has slowly lowkey accumulated goodwill for his work on film and tv over 20 years.
An outstanding film outstanding actor Cillian outstanding director Christopher Nolan just breathtaking
A nomination is a win within itself
Being thirsty AF doesn't always bring the results you want. Most of the times it makes you look desperate.
I just don't like Bradley Cooper. Don't know why. I think it's his facial expression. Punchable face.
Yeah that’s how I felt about Bradley this year
Facts
Especially in dating.
Cooper has been doing Oscar bait essentially once a year for a decade! So desperate
The thing with Maestro for me is that it felt more than a vanity project more than a genuine desire to tell the story of one of the greatest Broadway composers of all time. And even if that wasn’t the case, I don’t think the film stood out more in regard to Bradley’s acting in the way his other nominees, in particular Cillian, did.
Agreed. I think it being a vanity project for Bradley Cooper just makes his performance too self-aware. Whereas because Oppenheimer is Chris Nolan's vision, so it allows Cillian Murphy breathing room to just inhabit the character without becoming too self-conscious. It's also probably why people preferred Carey Mulligan to Cooper and why she was more natural on screen than him.
It’s not Cillian vs Bradley because ‘Oppenheimer’ as an entity was bigger than everything and everyone.
I usually like Bradley's acting but Maestro was horrendous. He was over the top, unlike Carey Mulligan who was phenomenal on it.
I'm going to be honest- I found Maestro very difficult to watch. Carey Mulligan truly was the entire heart of that film- you physically see a shift and a lift once she enters on screen from the first thirty or so minutes dragging on. It was an ego project for Bradley, wrapped in probably a sincere effort to make a good film for the Bernstein family.
Same here. I could barely sit through Maestro and found Bradley's performance so indulgent and off-putting it was almost funny compared to Carey Mulligan who just was luminous on screen even with the weak material.
@@TheDreamingJune Exactly! Carey was such a breath of fresh air and felt like a real person, that every time it switched perspective to Bradley's performance (especially when they were acting opposite each other), it was almost cartoonish in comparison.
I like Bradley Cooper, though not in this specific movie. And he always gets huge roles. This is Cillian’s first huge role in a huge movie. He completely carried that film and he’s clearly uncomfortable with the level of attention he’s receiving. He doesn’t want to be a celebrity and he’s always directing the praise he receives towards the other people he’s worked with. Bradley Cooper was a household name before this movie and will remain one. But Cillian’s performance was one of the most career defining ones and he was directed by Nolan, who was long overdue for his Oscar.
I remember Will Smith did the same for years until 2015 he just focused on being in good movies then an Oscar was thrown his way. People can tell when you’re Oscar baiting no matter how well the performance is, and they won’t buy it.
BS
BS
He kept doing what he did pre 2015 as you claim. Takes "cool" roles in movies with creatures/love in them, sometimes dramatic roles like Ali and Pursuit of happiness. Be only lead, not take roles like Django because Shultz was also pivotal.
He was in Alladin - a love story, Bright with creatures, and that tennis movie - a fucking oscar bait.
Cillian had the best performance, Cooper's desperation has nothing to do with it. Cillian has had a long carreer of incredible performances since day one, and has long been ignored but he just kept doing the good work. This year the stars aligned and he had the best performance in a film that was noticed and rightfully rewarded. If you look at each category Maestro was nominated in, the other films and actors were much better. Even without Oppenheimer, it wouldn't have made any difference.
Cillian is the total package : talent and humility. He’s a class act .
I've never heard very few man talk about hating Anne Hathaway but I've heard countless women say that very thing. Same goes for Jennifer Aniston. Do you have a take on that perhaps?
I don't think I've ever seen an awards campaign for blatant Oscar bait flame out as badly as the one for "Maestro" did.
The cast of Oppenheimer didn’t have to do much promoting, and they turned out alright. In Cooper’s case, the more you show your ego, the less likely people will be convinced you deserve an Oscar.
They didn't promote it for the writers strike, but the dune cast promoted A LOT and it feel okey, i feel like cast the nicest young actors and put them together
I remember a video a few years back that was called "Roger Deakins is a loser" and proceded to show all his nomination and ended with Bladerunner 2049 and the letters "good luck". I believe it´s harder to win an Oscar in particular crafts behind the camera and even if you win it´s not as celebrated or as well known the person who won it. Leo became a meme for not wining on his 5 nominations before the revenant. but Deakins had been nominated a whopping 13 times and was not made fun of. I believe the audience and the people tend to be more cruel to the actors over the people behind the camera.
Bradley Cooper suffers from Angelina Jolie Syndrome. This is when a decent but unspectacular actor works really, really, really, really, really hard to stretch their talent and craft -- and you can see all the work right on screen. Michelle Williams is another one. Good actors give an excellent performance. Great ones disappear into a role. The great ones are few and far between. One reason why Leonardo DiCaprio had to put himself through hell to win an Oscar is that in his entire post-Titanic career, you never for one minute forget you're watching Leonardo DiCaprio. Yes, even in "The Wolf of Wall Street," which is is best post-Titanic work.
I'm also not certain that impersonation of a real-life familiar figure of whom a lot of footage exists qualifies as great acting as much as it does mimicry.
From all accounts, Cooper is a really nice guy; one of the nicest in the industry. But that doesn't guarantee an Oscar either.
At least Jolie has an Oscar though 🤷♀️
He's much better than her, but I agree, he's not exactly Pacino in scent of a woman.
@@Aaron-kj8dv I'm the wrong person to talk about this because I think everything Pacino has done since Godfather I and II has been just scenery-chewing.
When Rami Malek won for playing Freddie Mercury, I thought "is this acting or imitation?"
@@jillcncoh god remember him in Heat. He was like at eleven for the whole movie. It got so bad that I rooted for De Niro to get away.
Bradley did amazing in that role and Cillian did also. Cillian came out the winter. Such is life.
Bradley gets it, what the movie going public of 2023 is looking for is a biopic Leonard Bernstein. Fact is, most people only know the name Bernstein as being bears.
But its also a Oscar trope if you want an oscar, do a biopic.
Oppenheimer was the Daniel Day-Lewis of films last year, was just no beating it
A lot of people will make fun of Bradley Cooper but he did something that most people in the general population don’t do and that is following though with your goals and dreams. The outcome might not be what we want but a lot of you make plans and do nothing with your lives but make fun of people that applied themselves and come up short. Some of you need help but misery loves company.
Except for your last sentence (no need) - hear hear. This film was a labor of love.
You had me until you had to insinuate people who dare to not like whats ultimately still a showoffy Oscar bait film are miserable or just dont "work hard enough" to achieve their dreams.
LOTS of luck is involved.
But nah, just lazy and miserable imr
Tell that to the people who would love to follow their hopes and dreams but live in a developing country and, therefore, have to make sacrifices to feed the rest of their family. Just because someone isn't working towards their dream doesn't mean that they're too lazy to follow through.
Oppenheimer was also Oscar baity but y'all decides to pick which is which is completely disingenuous@@DeepEye1994
It's not Bradley's fault that he was against Oppenheimer and Barbie, two films that were really over the top. Bradley's impersonation of Berstein is amazing. The competition, however, eclipsed his excellent film.
The sweetness of watching Judy Garland's character win an Oscar *in* "A Star Is Born", yet Judy shockingly failed to win the award *for* her towering performance as the Oscar-winning character. That loss is certain to remain on the books as the most overlooked acting Oscar win in the history of film -- past, present and future.
That one was 100% political. I agree she should have won, but she'd developed a reputation with studios as being very difficult to work with (due to her mental and substance abuse struggles largely caused by them). Grace Kelly played against type and was good (not great, imo), and she was the it girl then, and known for being very easy to work with. But A Star is Born and Judy's performance clearly had the staying power that A Country Girl did not.
Wait a minute: the entire point of the Andrea Riseborough thing last year was that the producers of For Lesley didn't had any money for a big campaign, so they basicly just asked some industry friends to put in a good word for them.
I don’t know if this broke any rules, but if you believe that campaigning with integrity involves having enough money to buy adds and hire a press agent that can get you on talk shows, you have a very capitalist view of integrity.
Well said. It is well known that campaigns have a lot to do with who will win an Oscar. There have been many controversial Oscar winners that inarguably were not worthy of their win, such as "Shakespeare in Love", the "Green Book", and "Crash", which come to mind in terms of Best Picture Winners who did not deserve to win when posited against other movies that were nominated as well. Harvey Weinstein made a ruthless campaign to have "Shakespeare in Love", crowned as best picture and it worked. The Oscars should not be as coveted as they are.
Riseborough caught flack for supposedly knocking out Danielle Deadwyler when that energy should have been reserved for Michelle Williams who was nominated as a Lead instead of Supporting in an environment where black women often have to campaign as supporting even when they're leads to get recognized at all (see Viola Davis).
Tropic Thunder lampooned this topic perfectly
I think that Cooper deserved the Oscar for Silver Linings Playbook.
Everyone was up against Daniel Day Lewis that year
An other thing about Bradleys performance in Maestro was, it just didn’t feel like he wanted to play Bernstein because of Bernstein! It didn’t feel like he took the role on because he cared about Bernstein’s as a person, as a musician as a historical figure or his achievements. And that he wanted to say something about all that.
Maybe he did, but it just did not come across that way. It just felt like he wanted to use this charismatic historical fugue to win an oscar.
But he is a great actor and i am sure he will win some day🙂
They had this video locked and loaded for a while.
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I think we've all been Bradley Cooper and that's why we want to take it down so much.
Marlon Brando wowed everyone with his non-classical, method acting in ‘A Streetcar Named Desire’ but Humphrey Bogart took the Oscar because of politicking and name recognition. He just wanted one.
(Source: BeKindRewind)
I really didn't like Brando in Streetcar, because he was so over the top hammy in that role.
@@MothGirl007 Wow i think the over the top and hammy was Vivien Leigh
I never heard about maestro till now
Hollywood awards don’t always go to the most deserving. The fact that it has a “campaign” proves that. Show business is still a business and not solely about pure art as they would want you to believe
He's a great actor and he doesn't need an Oscar, but I feel like the Internet's scorn for his "desperation" is really obnoxious and often mean-spirited. Dude wants to win an Oscar -- al right, great, so do I. People are so fast to assume the worst in others.
If Cooper gives a performance in the future that is worthy of winning, I hope he does win. Personally, I think he's had some bad luck with the years he's been nominated -- Silver Linings and A Star Is Born both would've been worthy winners, but had stiff competition.
Cillian is just introvert who's good at acting
That tacky selfie with the other Queen of Me-Me-Me, Ellen Degenerate, told us everything we need to know. His best role was Burnt, because he didn't need to fake being self-absorbed.
What gave me the ick (as the kids say) was the podcast interview Cooper did about how he he struggled to love his newborn daughter, and how it took him 8 months to figure out that he did in fact love his kid. Like dude, think you think that was *endearing*???
I can't feel sorry for Bradley Cooper when I think of all the incredible talents that were denied an Oscar, eg: Peter O'Toole. Montgomery Clift. Alan Rickman. Glen Close. And despite the clips, Judy Garland never won an Oscar or Emmy despite numerous nominations.
Achieving an Oscar without engaging in traditional campaigning involves delivering a performance of such unparalleled excellence that it will elicit universal awe from actors across the globe, leaving them pondering, "How the hell did he/she do that?" If you can make actors say this to themselves, you'll have your Oscar. That was the key to Daniel Day Lewis' Oscar.
Question is Bradley Cooper capable of such a performance, only a natural talent can do that or he has to do what Leo did and nearly kill himself.
Forget Bradley, I don't think any living actor is capable of giving such a performance other than Daniel Day Lewis.
That's how Joaquin Phoenix won his Oscar lol, i remember many actors praised him on social media
Cillian just embodies the ideal actor, artist and person. So GLAD HE WON!
People need to stop antagonising Bradley Cooper. Can't we just be happy for recognition of great performances rather than making it about hating on Bradley. Also people are pulling Cillian in this dumb fight with comparison. Leave both of them alone.
Or maybe Cillian was just better than Bradley. Imagine it wasnt about Bradley losing and .ore about other actors were better than him.
Nominations are good enough, it does count as recognition from your peers. Out of all the hundreds/thousands of movies made every year, it all comes down to 10 best picture nominees, 5 best actor candidates, etc. So Bradley shouldn't have taken offense with that jab from that director whoever that was. Don't need to care what anybody else says, nomination is solidly, a recognition from the Academy (your fellow peers). Actually winning the trophy is just a bonus.
12 nominations is equivalent to 3 time Oscar winner. That's a good enough reputation to carry around the industry, compared to the thousands of other struggling actors and filmmakers out there.
8:55 says all that needs to be said. Actors are usually told how similar their performances are to the real person they're playing. Then there's Cooper bringing the man's family to an interview where Cooper himself brags about how great of a performance it was and saying "it's happening!" as if he couldn't care less about the story itself, only about it being his passport to an Oscar win.
Just as people are calling Downey's Oscar a "Career Win", Cooper's loss was a "Career Loss". He's just done too much garabage. It's never good to Direct, Write, Produce and Star in a bio if you're not Orsen Wells.
Or Charlie Chaplin.
9:43 For me, the bigger blunder was the Academy not nominating Viola Davis or Danielle Deadwyler
Reminds me of Austin Butler on his Oscar campaign last year with his movie Elvis. The whole thing was cringe, exhausting and don’t get me started on his Elvis accent he couldn’t get rid of after the movie 🙄
The Anne Hathaway hate was so weird to me. It's very bandwagon-y and it still happens.
Yeah, I never understood that either. It was like "You hate her? Why?"
She was heartbreaking as Fantine. She deserved that award more than many Oscar winners
I guess you guys forgot around that time was Jennifer Lawrence peak of people seeing her as ordinary just like us plain Jane and Hathaway as a theater kid who wanted as much as Cooper.
@@mrlogan-ut2te I completely missed it, mostly because I didn't pay attention to it. I was "Trailer, maybe an interview if it couldn't be avoided, maybe see them at the Oscars or MTV Movie Awards." And that was it. I kept my exposure limited.
I think because she's so try hard. It's actually the same thing that people are critical of Bradley Cooper in this video.
Trying hard comes off as super disingenuous
Maestro committed the biggest sin a movie could commit: it was boring. Maybe if Maestro was a better movie he might have won.
Yea, Bradley directing himself definitely influenced things. He's not the first person to choose a biopic project thinking it'll get him an Oscar however. But now that his desperation is transparent it'll be hard for him to get one, imo. People like him and Amy Adams and Glenn Close become labeled as "someone who just gets nominated and that's it." It's like giving someone a birthday gift. If that person keeps asking when they're going to get their gift you kind of don't want to give it to them then. It's the element of surprise and that person not expecting anything that brings the giver joy.
But wasn't Leo like that they gave him one, I am not defending him just curious ultimately it is all politics. The best example is Will Smith it was nauseating how actively he campaigned for years and he wins it on the year he assaults someone on stage. But the bigger truth is Will is black you can only deny him for so long if they didn't give him one soon he will throw a tantrum and call them racist, his Oscar is more like shut up now and please go away don't bother us. I didn't think Amy Adams and Glenn Close actively campaigned that was not the reason they didn't win it was bad luck, but I see glenn close winning an honorary Oscar for her body of work in the future and Amy is still young she has time. Coming back to Bradley he will eventually get it, but if he knocks long hard enough they will eventually open the door for him.
Bradley's 'dig' at Cillian was so unnecessary and quite damaging as it transpired. Cillian is by far, one of the great actors, he emerces into the character gives a stellar performance, then goes home to his wife and children to live a quiet, normal everyman life.
I’m not a fan of Cooper but I really rooted for him in 2019. His ASIB performance was incredible and much more Oscar-worthy than Maleks. I never saw Cooper on the screen, there was only Jackson Maine.
He deserved the Oscar in that year 😥 Damn you, Rami Malek!
So was his performance in Nightmare Alley, but that year he was snubbed :)
Andrew Scott should have taken Coopers place among the nominees this year.
Yeah. All of Us Strangers was fantastic.
Absolutely!
Oo, well said. All of Us Strangers was one of my favorite films of the year. It's really stayed with me. So moving.
Would he have won though? Lol what difference would it have made had he been nominated anyway?
@@Njbear7453 it would give him some visibility and name recognition in the US. The nominations help a lot in that regard.
In my opinion, and I must say I have nothing against Bradley Cooper because I have seen almost every money he is in, his role in “Maestro” seemed like a caricature more than an actual acting performance. To me Cillian Murphy delivers so much with a restrained acting performance, and I always thought he was the only one he deserved to win every award for best actor, this award season. I liked Bradley in “A Star is Born” though. But in “Maestro” the only thing I liked was actually Carey Mulligan.
After Austin Butler was passed over in Elvis it is clear that the awards are not related to talent.
It’s no longer about the “performance” of that particular role- it’s for what you have done up to that point
Also you really think he was better than Brendon Fraser? I wouldn't say he was even better than Farrell.
That’s been obvious for decades
Being nominated for top level awards should be recognized as an honor. Only one person can take home the statue; that doesn't mean there are 4 "losers".
I think the response he gave on that interview about his preparation for the role of Bernstein, where he was clearly attacking other actors' job and putting himself as "the one", gave us a hint of the type of actor he has become.
I feel like that had a huge impact on his own colleagues not voting for him in any of the awards he was nominated for.
And Maestro was a huge dissapointment for fans of Bernstein. It wasn't a bad film, just really seemed that he wrote it to get an Oscar and not for his admiration to the real person.
Exactly! He didn't talk about why people should watch it. You know what makes Cillian better --- Cillian talked about his character and how everyone in the cast worked together to tell a story of the guy who created an Atomic Bomb. He never focused on how many months on losing weight --- he focused on telling a story from Oppenheimer's point of view and humanizing the character.
Wth are these comments. Bradley has a passion for making movies and gets very enthusiastic about them. And wants to learn everything about the craft. It's not a 'notice me, give me an Oscar' kind of thing. If you've watched his interviews over the years, that's not the kind of picture you get of him. And I'm not saying he should've won but I'm bewildered by these comments.
To be fair, Cillian Murphy gave a very good performance in one of the most succesful and critically acclaimed movies of the year. There wasn't an awful need for "campaigning" of any sorts. Cooper on the other hand had to shoulder Netlix's only shot at the Oscars. I wouldn't blame him for giving it everything he got.
The movie was terrible though. It barely had any plot, just here's the most salacious details of Leonard's life and his struggle with sexuality which I can't believe was the most interesting story to tell to Bradley Cooper. I left with no deeper understanding of Leonard Bernstein at all.
Leo wasn’t desperate for an awards, public was! First
I remember those days, people genuinely were confused how actor like Leo didn’t won yet, 2016 award season internet campaign for him, he didn’t even needed do anything😏 He always was Art above everything else.
Bradley is so obviously desperate, he makes Oscar bait movie just for awards not art.
Cillian is natural and humble guy, little introvert. For him Art comes first. And gets awarded and people happy for him.
Bradley forgot, main ingredient is sincerity in craft!
very well said.... best comment 👍👍
I thought Cooper was good in a bad movie, but I thought Murphy was better in a great movie. It's not that deep. And if Cillian wouldn't have got it, Paul Giamatti would have. Bradley was maybe the 4th best person nominated.
It was a 3 way race for me - Murphy, Giamatti and cooler and my money was on Giamatti honestly.
Never seen any of maestro’s campaigns in my feed or my youtube 😂
It would be awesome to see Amy Adams and Bradley Cooper do another movie.
Bradley Cooper can’t hold a candle to Cillian Murphy! Cillian is outstanding, humble with a non-Hollywood personality which makes him great
Cillian deserved it, quit trying to donwplay how good he was in the film
4:14 There’s this clip where he just stares intently at someone being excited lol
This video is exactly why I don’t agree with Leo getting an Oscar for The Revenant. It was a wholly OK movie and performance, far from his best work, but because he campaigned for years and got enough people behind him and he finally got one. A pity Oscar. Congratulations.
Maestro is a terrible movie.
Carey mulligan stole the show.
If only Oscars were awarded like they were meant to be, the best in their field and the one that moves the industry forward.
Ummm I could be wrong, but I always felt like Cillian Murphy was very underrated (Partly because of how he looks, and partly because - gonna say it: His nationality).
I got to witness people actually being offensive towards the Irish in the comments section for the KB AW win here on YT 2 years ago.
Peaky Blinders might be a great show, but I never watched it because it was never promoted to me by Netflix, unlike, say: Emily in Paris.
I can't comment on Bradly Cooper, but I feel like a lot of Murphy's "real person" personality is what ultimately made him more "popular".
I remember watching Oppenheimer and when I left the theater I told my husband that we just saw the Academy Award winner for best actor…movie of the year…and the best score. Oppenheimer was just that good in catching the struggles people in academia experience and the politics that come with it.
In my opinion dont focus on winning instead focus to his role as an actor..Rami Malek always said that it was not lost on me pointing to all sctors whom he nominated with.. That's wonderful..He always said he need the job..That should be the attitude of all actors & actresses
I disagree with the take in regards to Getting a an Oscar is a great boost for actors . That’s isnt the case for for Black Actors and Actresses- most cases their career take a considerable hit.
Will smith assaulted someone on national television with millions watching, and STILL won lol. I’d say that 10 year ban is warranted.
I don't know anybody whose favorite actor is Bradley. People don't go to see movie because Bradley is in it.
Amy Adam’s and Carrey Mulligan are both amazing actresses who deserve Oscars. They just need to keep putting out good work
I thought people hated Hathaway more for her "theatre kid" personality than the fact that she wanted to win an award.