Interstellar (2014) - Movies with Mikey
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2016
- Love is key, for all of us, in Interstellar. Brothers, Jonathan and Christopher Nolan, once again create another captivating cinematic experience - art in motion.
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I've always thought that the reason the book-shelf is the main symbol of the film is because that is how Humans originally found a way to "travel through time." Books and writing were the first way we were able to extend knowledge concretely though time and "beat" it.
I love this comment 🖤
Amazing idea
I saw this movie in the theater with a girl I was dating at the time. I thought it was beautiful, moving, impeccably shot and there were several scenes that brought tears to my eyes. When it was over I was dying to have a deep, philosophical and analytical conversation about this amazing piece of art we had just witnessed. What I got was "God, that was long".
That relationship did not last long.
And my vote is for Adaptation.
@Carpet Hooligan This is a little sexist lol, I've met girls who love sci-fi just as much as I do and have had many deep conversations with them about this very film. there are a lot of females on this planet and contrary to what you might think, not all of them fit in your little box of rom-coms and ice cream.
@Carpet Hooligan My girlfriend loves sci-fi. More than myself. Don't get so confortable inside your bubble.
@Carpet Hooligan I hope you're a troll x) If not you're a huge piece of sh*t !^^
This the most well thought out synthesis of a movie I've ever seen. Only 30k views, but the number of comments is telling. You win the UA-cam video of the decade award in my mind. Last decade was probably the one with the ferret dance.
[m] I'll cherish this meaningful and entirely real award for as long as I am alive. In your face, ferret!
I felt very emotional during this video
Probably not helped by Sara Bareilles' soulful cover of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.
Hi, you must be new to Movies with Mikey... :-P
I agree with the interpretation, but I think this movie also has another very important "dimension". This movie is a loveletter to NASA. In our modern day and age the usefullness of NASA is constantly questioned by a bancrupt state (run by morally bancrupt politicians). Nolan and co are essentially saying: "How can you say what those people are doing is not important, not worth spending money on?! We NEED NASA. They are the ones that will safe humanity if or rahter when we mess up. Because they have the brains and hearts to do it..."
Something like that.
At least that's how I read it.
+DASD [m] I can definitely get behind that.
I wanted this movie to be about how we need NASA and science, but if that was the point, I think the movie undercuts its intention. Mankind was unable through it's own ingenuity to save itself without the intervention of a higher power, be it evolved future-humanity, God, or what have you. I found that conclusion really depressing, as we shouldn't slacken our efforts counting on something like that to save us, but probably will.
I think it's a loveletter to love
Guy on ninjas stream brought me here
If not a love letter to NASA itself, it's certainly a love-letter to the space-age hype of exploring the stars that sadly fell by the wayside with the passage of time which we ought to reignite. I believe as I think Christopher Nolan himself does, that we are at our most truly and perfectly human when we create good, beautiful and inspirational things, when we explore the unknown amd revel in the majesty of the universe, and when we love, connect and share our lives with one another.
Cooper said it himself in the beginning of the movie. "It's not the how, it's the why". Love isn't a measurable force like gravity, but it surely pushes humans to do things they might not otherwise do. I'd consider this one of my absolute favorite scifi films.
“Science makes us practical, but love makes us selfless.” You made me tear up😂
TARS... How can we slow or stop entropy?
"THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER."
On a last ditch effort for humankind to find a way to slow their own demise that is a result of entropy... Cooper discovers that the answer is in transcending entropy, not out living it. In Asimov's "The Last Question" we find that humans were asking the wrong question the entire time. One does not need to prolong humanity by defying gravity, but instead by defying time. The one thing that we perceive to defy time itself is Love. That's the only way for the 5th dimensional beings to communicate to Cooper a necessity to survive and an incentive to act, and that's the way the Nolans communicated with the audience an understanding of defying time in a way that everyone might understand.
That's because that feeling that we call love can be communicated through a story, through a screen, through a word, through a physical act, through old records, through familial connections, through music.
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Damn dude, that's meta af. Nice.
BOOM! I love that story by Asimov. One of my favorites of all time. Great correlation there.
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I love you, man. Like, legitimately, I love what you're doing with this show. I love your ambition, and how often you hit the mark dead on. You're a treasure, dude.
Roughly paraphrasing Carl Sagan: "We are a way for the Cosmos to know itself."
Recently became a father and just rewatched this movie. First time in theaters I loved it, but now as a parent it literally moves me to tears.
We need to kickstart Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The movie: the game: the novel: the game again RIGHT NOW.
I'm down to provide the snacks
@@VegaChastain That's going to require a LOT of snacks.
I've always supposed that TARS didn't have a humour setting and his "humour setting" was just a private joke between him and cooper.
I love this theory so much x) I think I'm gonna go with that
This comment is why I bother to slog through all the vitriol and pointless pedantic arguments. I hope of stumbling across gems like this 🖤
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I live to amuse and entertain.
1. How can you not talk about the music
2. We are 4th dimensional beings, as in we are bound by the 4th dimension and can move freely through the first 3. A 5th dimensional being would be bound by the 5th but able to move freely through the first 4.
Time is essentially an illusion - soooooooo we are by all means 5th dimensional beings - who have had their glands calcified, convinced we have 5 senses, and other delusions. Aristotle posited that we have as many as 360 senses. We confine ourselves to the fourth dimension b/c we are taught not to question this materialistic part of science.
@@VegaChastain
Evidence or gtfo
@@VegaChastain What the fuck
@@VegaChastain how the hell are we 5 dimensional beings? What 5th dimension can we perceive or experience. We are 4 dimensional creatures limited to a 3 dimensional place of existence. To be a 5 dimensional being, you have to be limited by the 5th dimension and be able to freely move through the 4th. We, as humans, can only perceive time in one way; linearly.
@@VegaChastain Nah.
5:20 my son, 11, was puzzled that he was half an hour into this movie and they hadn't even gone to space yet. I told him to be patient, all of it matters. The satisfaction he got from watching the end and seeing all the pieces fall into place are exactly why Nolan is one of my favorite directors of this generation.
He explains this so well. This movie isn't about saving race or that love has no limits, but that love is what we look up to when all else fails, including science. This movie shows us that "we" need to be the "they" of tomorrow and love them for what they will become, and yet try to change it to save them. That is what love is, not some craziness like "love is to see someone with, heart and character." No, love is to care for someone or something enough to change it to survive when nothing else will allow it to. And that is why I think this movie is so underrated. Well done FilmJoy, well done.
Merlin: That love business is a powerful thing.
Arthur: Greater than gravity?
Merlin: Well, yes. In its way, yes, I’d say it’s the greatest force on Earth.
I've now been convinced that this movie is a thoroughly brilliant work of art.
This movie blew my mind, I sat speechless for about 5 min just wrapping my head around it. I loved it and really enjoyed that "love" had a place in why we as humans do things. Just really awesome.
There's no other film that can turn me into a blubbering mess quite like the scene where Cooper watches all the transmissions from home, realizing how much time has passed, how much he's missed, how much has changed.. Destroys me emotionally, without fail, every time.
Skimming these comments, it seems a popular sentiment that the movie isn't good because you misunderstood the things it says about love, god or relativity as things you think are stupid and wrong. I can see how you'd make that mistake if you have been annoyed by other things people and works of art have said about those topics in the past and decided the movie were saying those same things without actually trying to listen first, but trust me, you guys are missing out on a great and maybe groundbreaking movie if you're watching a movie that doesn't actually exist but that you want to see because you want people and works of art you disagree with to be stupid and wrong instead of this movie.
As for Movies with Mikey Mikey, I love the work that you do; the joy and enthusiasm and insight you bring to the movies you talk about and the fearless earnestness with which you talk about them, and particularly here the kind and thoughtful and full of awe your reading of this movie is; it gives me a greater appreciation for a movie I already appreciated a lot, and shows me I'm not the only one who did. So thanks.
The things I dislike about the movie aren't really thematic or philosophical. I just think it's just poorly written and assembled as a film in many ways. So much blatant plot exposition (why does EVERYONE monologue in this movie?), too many bad edits, awkward pacing, etc... I dig the themes, I just don't like things about the film itself.
It's not flat-out bad by any means - at times it's incredible. But it has flaws.
While I disagree with almost everything you said about Interstellar, I love your ideas about fandom and self-congratulation through appreciation. That's a really strong articulation of an opinion that i've had for a long time. I'd like to add Wes Anderson to the list of creators who suffer these fanbases, I don't like his films purely because of the people who do, and I hate that I am so irrational about that, but I guess it speaks volumes for how insufferable that mentality really is.
+Daniel King Exactly, I liked the movie more than most, especially the scene after getting off the time warping planet. However, most people who criticize the movie say they dislike it because they found the relationships unconvincing and much of the acting stilted. Why do people respond to that with accusations of "you must just not like love"? No, people were unconvinced by the movies attempt to portray love. As I said, I liked the movie more than most, but the sentiment that either a detractor must be unable to understand the plot, or simply dislikes themes about love is absurd.
I've now been up till 2am multiple nights in a row because I can't stop watching your content.
It's well thought out, has great pacing, and genuinely makes me smile even when I disagree with you! (which is not often)
I especially love this episode, as well as Scott Pilgrim and Force Awakens. Mostly for selfish reasons because those movies are VERY high on my personal favorites list. But also because your focus on the nuances really make compelling arguments.
Keep doing what your doing, I wish you all the best.
The 22 year memories scene is maybe the most crushing scene I've ever seen. It truly "hits different".
No other video essay has ever made me cry before.
His next movie has a black leading man, so he's slightly deviating from his usual pattern
Science is a body of knowledge
That knowledge includes love
love is something humans
could not help but emote
in something so deep
and intense as this
the 5th dimension
is mysterious
only for
a time
'science makes us practical, love makes us selfless'. Well done.
Dear lord, I love how you talk about movies. I hope you never have to stop making these.
*About to go to bed, refreshes main page one last time; see's newest episode*
"Well, looks like I'm binge-watching all your episodes again."
This was so emotional... I loved this movie, it carved into my heart
I'm addicted to these episodes. Thanks again.
I came back to this review because it makes me cry every time. This is my favourite film and my favourite film analysis on all of UA-cam. You've done something incredible, made me love my favourite film even more 🖤
I love science, I'm not an expert but my dad was a physics teacher and between us we keep up with popular science because of the awe and how much it gives our life meaning and beauty, so this film felt like an expression of everything I love about science and humanity. When I feel nihilistic or have an existential crisis I watch this film and it helps me get through it. It has literally got me through some of the darkest times in my life.
And if I don't have the time or energy or emotional capacity to watch the film, this video gives me the same feeling in under 20 minutes. That's staggering. Thank you, Mikey, you'll probably never read this comment on a years-old video with over 1000 comments but I wanted to make it anyway.
I feel like this video represents the potential of UA-cam and your channel is the pinnacle of film analysis (for me, anyway) because it consistently adds something worthwhile and beautiful to the best films in existence.
FilmJoy is such a great channel name, you bring more joy to the films that already thing the most joy. That's incredible.
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I came to this channel today to watch a playlist of some movies that i thought you'd have a really good take on but after watching this, that plan has gone out of the window. Not because i thought this take on Interstellar was bad in any way. Precisely for the opposite reason. This video had so much heart and soul invested into every single detail that you mentioned that it genuinely brought a tear to my eye. I think watching any other video straight after this would diminish my enjoyment of this video slightly.
I haven't been a subscriber of this channel for that long but i can easily and honestly say that it is without a doubt my favourite movie-related channel, quite possibly my favourite channel on this whole site.
I know it's a long shot but in the off chance that you do see this, i want to say how much these dissections of movies are appreciated and the level of thought and detail you put into them is something i have never seen rivaled.
Consider me a life-long fan and a Patreon supporter from here on out!
The best movie-related content on UA-cam.
Nice vid! It's been a long week and I wasn't expecting this until next week. Interstellar is one of my absolute favorite movies. I love its depth and meaning. When I first found your channel I looked up to see if you had already done a video about this great movie.
Your videos have a lot of heart and that's why I look forward to them so much. The Mad Max, Star Wars, and Interstellar are favorites of mine but I've never seen the Iron Giant and I have watched your video about it numerous times. Thank you for the dedication you've put into these videos. I love how you put your feelings out there. Your channel will become very popular and when it does I hope it doesn't change too much from what you're doing now. Thanks, again.
Jesus Christ that actually made me cry that really had an emotional punch at the end in the message really really got me crying
3:24 it's called an O'Neill cylinder.
Also The Science of Interstellar Book by Kip Thorne is a pretty good read!
Wait Kip wrote a book on the Science of Interstellar?! I gotta check that out, I remember getting his book about Black Holes when I was in college YEARS ago
He was the Science Adviser on the film. He also published a paper based on the model of the Black Hole he made FOR the film.
Fantastic video. Currently binge watching them all and I am so very happy.
I don't think I've ever cried in a movie review/dissection/discussion/thing before, but you got me there!!
Listening to your enthusiasm and heart and commitment and conviction was incredible.
Radical love and radical thought 4 the winnnnn!!!
(y u not hav a million subsssss?!?)
Hurt Locker is the only one of those I've seen, so I feel that I should vote for it.
You absolutely encapsulated so much of what I never could about why I enjoy this movie. One minor note is that outside of the Ellen Burstyn scenes, the dust bowl footage is of actual people who lived through the dust bowl. Which when I saw the movie was striking as I'd seen Ken Burns documentary of it not that long before. That gave an enormous amount of gravity to what they were attempting to portray as they were giving us REAL LIFE accounts from people who lived through an event that was similar to their backdrop. IMO it was a fantastic touch.
One thing also rang with me over this film. It is a modern reinterpretation of the "Divina Commedia". A protagonist finds himself in disconnection with the world and starts a journey in which he manages to look at the very fabric of the world and the engine that moves everything, and to do that he is fueled by a form of pure form of love (like that for a daughter). By doing so, he will be able to go back to the world and save it with the knowledge he has found
I have to be honest, I only half-heard the beginning of the "serious section" because I was overwhelmingly entranced by the glorious "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" by Sara Bareilles in the background. I am always SO incredibly happy when other people reference or have heard that stellar (no pun intended) performance.
Beyond that, beautifully done video all around, I'm new, but started from the beginning, and these are just getting better and better. Excited to keep going and keep watching. 😊
Finally someone who saw Interstellar with open mind, yet still with love for craft of cinema! Thank you for this review/thoughts on!
Honestly this might just be my favorite movie of all tine
Every time I go on a Movies With Mikey binge I end up crying.
I cannot begin to stress how amazing you channel and videos are. Truly, these are awesome
That was beautiful man ahaha
I think this is a supremely underrated movie
Hey, are you ever going to get around to that movie by that Jomps Wobbin guy...? What was it called? Serendipity? The one with the firebugs.
"Science makes us practical, but love makes us selfless." *FLOORED*
Man you almost made me cry again. That god dam scene where Copper sees Murph for the first time when she's his age. Gets me every time.
The Hurt Locker blew my mind please do it
Dude, your work is awesome. Your perspective, provoking. Your optimism, contagious. It's not a matter of "if", but of "when" your channel will explode. Just glad to be here before it does. Keep it up!
We few lucky early subscribers look forward to the many others that will follow.
....also, I've finished all the scotch.
Just wanted to drop by and say I've enjoyed every one of these videos you've done. Thanks again Mikey!
Gotta find time to watch this now. Thanks Mikey! (also, looking forward to the next episode of TV Crimes!)
You actually made me appreciate this movie a whole lot more.
A 5th dimensional object would cast a projection or "shadow" onto a 4 dimensional world. There is math to describe it
Who's to say we aren't that shadow, but being unable to access our full subconscious mind, we can only see ourselves as 4th dimensional.
Beautiful. Fah-king beautiful. This was one of my favorite movies of the last few years, and you've captured exactly why it's so important to me. Thank you so much for this video.
Oh, and I'd love to hear your take on Hurt Locker!
This is one of the most beautiful examinations of a movie I've ever seen. And, admittedly, it reassures me that I wasn't crazy to absolutely love this movie when I saw it, despite the avalanche of negativity it received. You are a critic for the ages, Mikey
You, sir, are wasted at this convergence in time and space. You should be on tv, you should be everywhere. I'm not religious, but you are some sort of Jesus in this cyber-landscape.
[m] Welp. That's the nicest thing I've heard today/this week/this month/probably this year. Thank you so much!
@@filmjoy I kinda wanted to say a similar thing. Your digestion (and regurgitation) of this movie was spot on. Transcendental. I love this film. I'm also struck by the similarity between Dr. Mann's plight and what happens with Jim and Aurora on the much more shallow but still understandable (and I think enjoyable) Passengers movie. Jim and Mann both tried so hard not to do what they did but it's human nature to need others and it's human nature to sin in order to get what we 'need' the most - companionship. And if I tie the trifecta of space movies in....recall in Contact the Alien as Arroway's father says "You're an interesting species, an interesting mix. You're capable of such beautiful dreams and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you're not. See, in all our searching, the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness bearable is each other."
And if you want to hear the lines may I recommend this beautiful song: ua-cam.com/video/7AoJwMImQZE/v-deo.html&start_radio=1
I wouldn't say that love transcends gravity, I would say the message is rather that love is the most powerful force in the universe. Love gives Miller the ability to manipulate gravity, one of the fundamental forces in our universe, so he can get his message to Murphy. It's able to overcome one of the main obstacles in the universe preventing humans from expanding to new planets to utilize it to save the human race.
Also, Hurt Locker.
That is essentially what transcend means.
Dude, Mikey I just found your channel today, the first video I watched was "Sunshine" another sc fi space movie, then a few hours later I come back and watch this video, (now,... interstellar is hands down my favorite movie ever) and when I saw this video by you about interstellar I had to click and your take on it was so profound, and the thing is I never thought of the deeper meaning of love and science having or needing to co exist as one entity but, man if that's not the most beautiful thought of all time I don't know what is. The basis of a higher being posed as a 5th dimension wanting to preserve our conception of love and science blew my freaking skull. Great video man, I will definitely be subscribing and if you have a patreon I would love to be apart of it.
Mikey you do great work with these videos. People may bicker about the love & science bit but it is your love for cinema that shines through in all the work you do on this channel. Keep it up!
I vote for Hurt Locker.
Adaptation 100%
Adaptation
Thank you so much for doing a video on Interstellar Mikey!!! So grateful, really liked the video :)
Well i'll be watching this again tonight. Thanks again for your amazing work with this series! And lets go with Away we go.
this movie is a Spielberg script being fucked over by a Kubrick fanboy
Interstellar is a magnificent film and Nolan did a fantastic job
Spielburg's original script was kinda bad
***** true but this movie is right up Spielberg's ally.He has already done ET which is about 'love and friendship is transcendental'
He would just knock this out of the park
***** Stranger Things did it well
***** true true
I really appreciated hearing a favorable analysis for this movie that was well-thought through. Even though I watched the movie for the second time just under a week ago, I sort of want to revisit it a third time, keeping these things that Mikey said in mind.
But...
I don't think I'm ever going to love this movie. It's just too weighed down by clunky dialogue, BAD editing, and an omnipresent layer of sappiness that undermines the film's more rigorous scientific and thematic aspirations. I mean, it's not a good sign when you have a movie that's all about love and the human spirit and your favorite character, by a wide margin, is the freakin' robot.
i wehemently disliked the movie and was quite negatively affected by how stupid the pseudo post-collapse society building, "super secret" nasa planet saving setting, "but you are the only onee" nagging to the unwilling space pilot, dumbed down decision making process of space crew (which can only happen in a movie), bad acting, bad edtiting and everything.. could not imagine myself thinking about suffering through it again, but this review made me think maaaaybee..
Arguably the most fleshed out character in 2001, aSO is Hal, but that doesn't undermine or adulterate its emotional and thematic significance. P.S. I don't mean to disregard your argument, because I've only seen Interstellar once and that my point doesn't necessarily make yours untrue.
Isn't that the whole point of 2001, though? That everyone is acting aloof, disconnected and alien; almost internalizing the technology surrounding them and than the machine itself exhibits emotion.. whereas this one, as proposed by the Mikey video is supposed to have people acting out of their emotions?
But that was the point in 2001. Hal9000 was supposed to be the most human character in a lot of ways. With Interstellar, it seems pretty clear that Nolan wasn't going for the same thing.
It's not sappy if it's sincere. In this case, it was wholeheartedly sincere, thus avoiding sappiness. I think people like yourself are too cynical to ever embrace something like what Nolan presented anyway.
This made me cry. Thanks for your work on it
Those last minutes of your video were amazing. Nice work done.
My one issue with this film is Cooper's relationship with his son. Yes, Murphy is younger, so she needs more care, but he doesn't even ask about his son at the end of the film.
I think I understood the theme of the movie and I wouldn't opposed to it on a fundamental level if it weren't treated so bluntly and literally. "Love will inspire us and science will save us" is a great sentiment, but mixing physical dimensionality with a human emotion veers dangerously close to quackery territory. Aside from that, there was way too much on-the-nose monologuing, way too little actual, believable human drama (the scene with Cooper watching all the recordings accumulated through the years was great though) and some of the film's scientific logic seemed very questionable. I found the film clunky, sappy and ultimately unable to achieve it's grand ambition. It's still a huge achievement and I loved the visuals, practical effects and the music. I'm glad we're living in an era which has several state-of-the-art high-budget hard or semi-hard sci-fi movies coming out each year and I get to complain about them.
Thank you for this response. I feel exactly the same about quite a lot of what you said, except i did not care much about the music or the practical effects. Some visuals were quite stunning though!!
Human emotion is the only way we have to experience the physical dimensions... so how can we know they're not the same thing? I know it's a very philosophical topic, but that's what I loved about this movie
There are infinite dimensions. How do you know love isn’t one of them that can be measured? It’s a presupposition of the movie. Unlikely, but it is science fiction after all. It is fundamentally important to the story in every aspect. The reason ‘they’ came to save us. The reason ‘they’ couldn’t save us on their own. And of course how we solved the problem. It isn’t just something nolan threw in to fix a plothole. It is fundamental to the story. The story begins on this very presupposition.
NotAffiliated You're happy you get to complain about them....
Well. That sums up the shitshow that has become mankind in this age of oversaturated, social media fueled argumentativeness. Go watch Star Trek Discovery. Thats probably much more your speed.
I think the fact that he's happy he gets to complain about them is a good thing. You don't have to like something to appreciate it. He didn't like the movie, which is natural but he appreciates the effort and dedication that went into it. Which unfortunately, a lot of people who criticize this work cannot do.
The DUST in the intro MOVES!
This movie blew my freaking mind. It was one of my favorite theater-going experiences, and I only wish that I had the opportunity to see it in IMAX. I completely agree, this is one of Nolan's best movies (or at the very least one of my favorites), and absolutely one of the best movies of the 2010s. Honestly, of all of the things this film's naysayers call bs, the one that gets me is that NASA was looking out for the future of the human race when legit history shows that NASA was basically created by the Nazis thanks to CIA operation Paperclip. Then again, you can call that an epic low key redemption arc, a story of how the legacy of people who royally screwed up the world became its ultimate salvation, just like what happens in this movie. I think this movie shows that Christopher Nolan believes that we are our most human in the best ways possible when we create, explore and love, and I couldn't agree more.
Ehhhhhhhhhh...
Trust me, I got all of that about love transcending science, the inter-dimensionality of the beings (and the fact that they were in the fifth dimension), and all of the science that they have in the movie.
The concept still fell flat for me. It was a really ambitious movie, and you picked up on some imagery that honestly impressed me. But this isn't his best movie, not by a long shot - the pacing is off, for all the sets it still feels weirdly claustrophobic, and he uses that poem way too damn much. (And I love that poem too.) His best movie will always be The Prestige for me.
Going to bluntly copy in my previous response re the poem below. But the claustrophobic feeling make sense, doesn't it? Space travel is claustrophobic as it gets and even on earth they are slowly suffocating.
The point of repeating that poem so many teams until it becomes a bunch of empty words is because for Caine's character they ARE empty words. Every time he says it, he's lying, he already gave up on saving everyone. But in the end, it's exactly what Cooper and his daughter etc did, they refused to give up and in the end succeeded, putting value back into those words.
I recently watched and greatly enjoyed Interstellar, but I will agree, the Prestige is definitely his best work. That movie is truly stunning.
Love your channel, but I think you missed what makes a lot of people turn their noses and rolls their eyes is that it puts religious metaphysics in a movie that otherwise tried to be scientifically accurate. If they "scienced" there way out, or didn't lean so hard on science earlier in the film I think it would have been better received. Religion and faith don't have a stranglehold on altruism/love. Science has a terrible oppressive relationship with religion and faith, so much so that it's kind of disrespectful how often it's said that science needs them. And when the third act turns the 5th dimension into a religion about love, it's cringe worthy.
I think you didn't read the film correctly. The movie in its context doesn't elaborate on religion or metaphysics at all. As you can see, during the entire movie, they never speculate what "they" are, they just talk about what they've done and wonder who could be doing all of this. Cooper implies that the bulk beings are evolved humans who transcended their three physical dimensions because they created the tesseract for him in order to create a stable temporal loop. The data collected by TARS allowed to humans reconcile general relativity with quantum mechanics and they were capable of harnessing gravity, in time they would experiment in them and being able go beyond.
However, the film in its intertext does elaborate on religion because it brings themes from christianity like the 12 astronauts from the lazarus missions which represents the 12 apostles of Jesus, Cooper acts as the trinity: as the son (Jesus) he left behind his selfish desires of accomplishing Plan A (because he couldn't return to save his children) so he sacrifice himself for the future of human race (Plan B) and enters the black hole, then as the father (God) he transcends time and space by entering the tesseract, he becomes and omnipresent being and as the holy spirit he send messages to earth and thought to be a ghost (or a spirit); and Cooper pulls Dr. Mann (a reference to mankind) from his hypersleep of death just like Lazarus. Nolan wanted this film to be an ode to science but he adresses the part that religions have had in creating knowledge that could led humans to advance such as the pyramids, cathedrals, art, etc. In this case he wanted to use a church organ which by the time it was invented was the most complex machine ever created and its sounds dwelves between the religious and the metaphysical, something outworldly. So, the organ is technology created to enhance this experience of the uncertainty, the unknown or a higher power. But in the film they never actually address that some of then believe that some kind of God is pulling the strings of their lifes.
Something that the video got wrong is that Brand's speech on love is not her really believing that love is something physical or that belongs to a higher dimension, she's just making a statement of trying to convince Cooper and Romilly that besides the data and logic, the feeling factor must be taken in consideration in order to move forward, they don't take the bait and choose the logical option, later we found that they made the wrong decision by going to Mann's planet and Murph took the right decision in going after her feeling that the answer to the puzzle of solving gravity was in her bedroom. Furthermore, there's another layer in the statement of Brand and it's that: she questions herself why is she still in love for someone that she hasn't seen in a decade and probably dead, why she's still longing for this person if there's no utility, she confronts her logical side with the emotional one, so she concludes that must be something more and that's love as a driving force, we need a connection with another human to really care about for our future which bring us to what Dr. Mann said about empathy. There's no bright future if we loose hope. So, at the end Cooper in the tesseract create a connection beyond time and space through the love for his daughter.
All of this leaves us with the metatext of the film which it can be read in many ways and I think the best one is that Interstellar shows us a godless universe where mankind is the only one capable of saving itself from extinction. Mankind needs science to expand its knowledge and create the technology to move forward but also needs purpose it can be love or the insatiable need to make the unknown known (represented in the figure of Cooper as curious side of humanity) and that humanity is flawed, it can be due to its own isolation or its obsession with logical reasons. To transcend we need both logic and feeling. But religion is not part of the equation here because science right now is a better way to take apart the uncertainty in our reality.
What's super cool about the interviews at the beginning of the movie: those are people who grew up during the Dust Bowl in the 1920s and 30s in the United States. It's from the Ken Burns documentary series
Dude, what even are you? You have an awe-inspiring ability to take these concepts, break them down into digestible bites and then drive their points home with the emotional weight of a 50-ton truck of cancer survivors and their families.
Bravo sir. Bravo.
My only real issue with the film is them going to the first planet, the water planet, where they lose 7 years per hour. Shouldn't they have been able to tell, in orbit, that something was wrong? No land? Huge waves? These should have been observable. Cooper made an excellent point (it doesn't matter if this planet is good if everyone else is dead), just 1 day down there and all of humanity is dead...yeah, bad idea. This planet alone took me out of the film, no intelligent scientist would have EVER gone down there at all, and that stupid choice is fundamental to the rest of the movie.
Relativity is tricky to keep track of, but don't the crew spending seven years in orbit see just the one wave passing? If the light escaping the planet would give a lot of understandable information at all at such a slow rate.
Would still be able to see the lack of landmasses. Still doesn't change the fact the very concept of this planet being "the one" is impossible due to the time slippage issue.
Lack of landmasses wouldn't be problem necessarily. We have the technology now to create land out of shallow water. Us Dutchies did it about a hundred years ago.
The meaning of that scene, as Mikey explains, is that it hits us with the fact that every mistake they make, they lose time with their relatives and loved ones on earth. The scene has function and their science said it was a good bet for a habital planet because to them the astronaut had landed years ago and told them everything was fine while it really wasn't.
Science failing in the movie also has a function because it makes us, the audience see, that even though science fails them, they do not stop because of their human spirit (through love).
Against all odds, they keep going because of love, because of a connection they feel with other humans. A connection I feel every day with loved ones, family but also with total strangers.
It's a movie, don't expect flawless logic. Expect function. It's art, not a scientific documentary.
I understand the POINT of the scene, however, I'm saying no intelligent scientists would have gone to it in the first place. The point of the scene is not lost on me, but its a shoe-horned point created by a easily avoidable problem.
"But, wait, shouldn't they have been able to figure out that a planet so close to a gravitational anomaly would have gigantic waves? " Yes... yes they should have. If they knew the time dilation, they would have been able to calculate the tides. Also seeing "a large mountain" er rather two large variations in the surface (it's a tidal wave... like... an actual tide), would be pretty obvious. It's highly unlikely they've studied it enough to know the liquid is water and haven't considered that there would be enormous tides. It's one of the first things habitability scientists would think of in fact. Tides are sort of important to familiar life.
As a pretty big Nolan fan, I was so hyped up for this film and ended up pretty damn disappointed. It's a solid film (6/10 or so), but the common criticisms with the Nolan brother's writing that I never agreed with up to this film finally made sense to me. Though I think the film is pretty damn stunning from a technical standpoint (although if I'm being honest, the cinematography for any non-space sequence didn't wow me), here are the 3 main issues that I had with it:
- Nolan's films always have plot contrivances, but they are usually in service to setting up some bigger ideas so based on the execution of that idea I let it slide. Here, though, he employs contrivances that are unnecessary and really don't work. For instance, Cooper is said to be the ideal pilot for this mission and even knows Dr. Brand personally, so why didn't NASA try to recruit him considering he was just a day's drive away? What, did they somehow know that he'd find a weird dust pattern in his daughter's room and find out it was the coordinates to the NASA base? And is Cooper really so great that he immediately displaces whoever would have been the pilot of the mission simply because he showed up at the last minute? Or how about Dr. Brand saying that he could use data from a singularity for his formula to complete Plan A, but no part of the mission involves dropping off a bonus robot into the singularity for just that purpose? Of course Plan A is a lie, but Dr. Brand apparently got close enough in his formula and was telling the truth about being able to use data from a singularity that it'd be worth a shot and possibly save the astronauts a hell of a lot of time.
- For a film that is all about human emotion, it doesn't really seem to understand it very well. Murph is upset at her father for leaving them behind and she continues to be super upset about it even when she starts working for the same people that sent her father away and knows that the whole point of the mission was to save the human race (yes, this all changes when we find out Plan A was a lie but Murph still held a grudge against her dad before then). Amelia, a NASA-trained scientist, makes the very illogical decision to try to secure the data on Miller's planet despite the very obvious tidal wave approaching them, killing Doyle. As a reaction to this error, she proceeds to continue wasting the crew's time with her desperate plea that love transcends time and space, a theme that has already been set up by the film with the whole Coop/Murph plot that is now being hit over the heads of the audience by a character that up to now has been a total waste and is only serving to make life harder for the protagonist. As an extra kick to the testicles, the ending where we should get our big emotional catharsis when Cooper finally sees Murph again on her deathbed is cut short because he's essentially shooed away by Murph (who I guess was now totally over her whole problem of never seeing her dad again even though she seemingly put herself in cryosleep for 2 years specifically so she could see him) so we can end with him going out to find Amelia, who should be considerably aged considering that Edmunds's planet wasn't on the edge of the black hole. Oh, and whatever happened to NASA looking to send out qualified people who didn't have crippling emotional attachments? Because Cooper and Amelia are pretty much nothing but crippling emotional attachments.
- The dialogue is largely utilitarian (which gets pretty bland after a while) and when it isn't, it's often poor. That explanation of Murphy's Law is totally incorrect, even if Amelia wasn't a terribly written character her big monologue would still be clumsy as hell, Dr. Mann's lines as he's leaving Cooper to die are 65% awkward and 35% unintentionally funny, and adult Murph's character would have been better off being a mute after her recording to Cooper.
With these problems repeatedly coming up, it made it more difficult to get so heavily invested in the characters and ideas like I was with, say, Inception. I respect Christopher Nolan's ambition with the science of it all as well as the technical elements of the film, but feel that his reach exceeded his grasp with the collaboration on the screenplay alongside Jonathan.
tl;dr: If you want to know about the power of love, just listen to Huey Lewis.
While I'll concede that the film relies a lot more on plot contrivances in service of an overarching theme and that some of the dialogue is just...pedestrian, I think the reason why NASA sent scientist with emotional attachments is that there was really no one left TO send. As for Murph shooing Coop at the end, never saw the issue with this, Murph's main trauma was her dad left her with no idea when he was coming back and that he had forgotten her. Then she learns he was trying to save her and get to her the whole time...and maybe the film didn't allow that to sink in long enough, but in the end she has her catharsis (Inception callback!).
I will agree I like Inception more as a movie, but I'd rather a movie aim high and miss under than aim low and hit low. Interstellar for me is Nolan's grandest and most ambitious "failure" simply because it was nearly impossible to do justice to every metaphysical and scientific concept he wanted to convey.
I don't think I breathed for the last 6 or 7 minutes of that video. Wow. So eloquent, so intelligent, so intuitive.
What a great and thought out video.
This is by-far the best movie analysis I've ever seen. Great job.
I might be bias because interstellar is my favorite movie of all time lmao.
Sorry. I still think the "love transcends our conception of reality" thing is dumb.
Because it really doesn't.
You absolutely cannot know that.
+Jinoru Pyros sure you can... Love is a neurochemical reaction. There hasn't been a ton of research done, but one thing is for sure: chemistry does not transcend time and space. It's simply part of the human imperfection...
Damian Pickett Fortune tellers also transcend like that. Fuck off, kid.
Ah, Someone had a horrible childhood:(
Right, and you know everything about how the mind and body works.
Seriously? You're going for the "love transcends time" bit? That's incredibly anthropocentric.
First, they didn't need love to achieve that result. They could've sent a team of (better designed) robots to do everything that the human characters did. They clearly have the AI technology to do it. No love needed, just logic. Even better if the robots could communicate with other robots on earth instead of Mcconaughey to Murph, they could've finish the whole knowledge transfer in milliseconds. Just because by chance it's humans that was in that role in the movie, doesn't mean robots can't do them. And do it better. No "love" needed.
Second, whatever entity helped them doesn't need to be motivated by love either. If they are so omnipotent, they could've done it for idle curiosity. Hell, for all we know, the dust thing could be their doing, and the whole thing was just an experiment for them. Or even worse, just an art project. It would be so arrogant to think that they did it because they care about humanity.
I love the first half of the movie when it's about science. The lovey dovey half just feels so forced and lazy.
One of the main tenet of science is that we should realize that we are nothing in the vastness of the universe. Our senses, our memory, our thinking, they're ridiculously flawed. And it's humbling. And it's eye opening. And it's beautiful in it's truthfulness. Thinking that our "love" should be so powerful that it can "transcend time" just feels so backward and primitive. Feels like something that we would think back when we thought we're the center of the universe.
I think the point Mikey is making is that "love" and "science" are not polarizing forces, but rather love is the drive that makes us want to understand the universe better, which I think you and can agree on, is through scientific means. But to say that love is so powerful is "backward and primitive" I think, will all due respect, is incredibly shallow minded in and of itself. I'm an engineer, I understand the power of science and human understanding and that we in the infinities of the macro and microscopic universe are relativity insignificant and YET there is this biochemical process that can EASILY make us as being act against logical utilitarianism. Every Star Trek has THAT character (Data, Seven of Nine, Spock), the character bred of pure logic who is somehow unfulfilled because they can't grasp basic human connection. Sure Nolan may have done it in a bombastic, proselytizing sort of way but I don't think his conceit is something roll eyes at. Carl Sagan said we are "all made of star stuff" and that our common molecular makeup with the universe gives us that intrinsic connection. For all the physics has gotten us, and with the social science research out there, we still cannot explain why "love makes us do crazy things." I think Interstellar does an admirable job of posing that question on a grand scale and I agree with Mikey's premise that science and logic can only take us so far in understanding the universe, we need an inherent drive, a humanistic drive, maybe it is love.
Now does the movie achieve all these ambitions? No. Is the film overlong? Yes. Is some of the acting hammy? Yes. Does the film sometimes analyze emotion more than feel emotion? Yes (but to me that's always been part of Nolan's appeal, he's a thinker trying to understand why you feel as opposed to Kubrick who never likes to feel anything). It's not my favorite Nolan film in its construction but I don't think the ideas he posits are silly. Emotion and science need not be opposing forces, you need both, I think that's what the movie is saying.
Your breakdown of this movie made me question an integral part missing in my life. Thank You. I then read your 20 Questions Tuesday: 362 - Mikey N. piece from 8/30/2016. Decoded the numbers (362 Master #) and knew you speak truths. Finding out you work for the minds behind The BL Series (My favorite 3rd person shooter) was just icing on the cake. You have earned yourself a new subscriber. Continue the great work.
Your videos give me life, Mikey. Thank you for making these. You're great, man.
You make a mistake assuming that people are opposed to the Love rant.
People hate it cause it's clunky,shoehorned and bad on a narrative level(stopping the movie to spoonfeed the movie's core theme).Its amateurish feshman screenwriting.
"Its amateurish feshman screenwriting."
Oh the irony
Saurav Shekhar ah a typo
agreed
***** again,I get it. That's why I know it was poorly handled .
It's a matter of presentation rather than a matter of how complex the ideas are
Nah, it's pretty much as good as it gets. If it was spoon-fed, you'd actually probably like the movie. Simple people like movies when it's spoon-fed to them. Simple as that, my man.
With the devil voice and purposefully subversive lethargic delivery... someone has watched those Red Letter Media Star Wars reviews one too many times.
[m] Or that's just the way I talk. Jesus, you guys. Plinkett hasn't made a video in 4 years. Maybe explore more of UA-cam?
It's a VERY specific style. I doubt you talk in devil voice randomly. Look, if the content is good then whatever, but Plinkett's reviews are a very well-known commodity among the market your videos are aimed toward. Do you want to come across as derivative? Just looking out for you. I'll watch the full video later (at work now, but heard it recommended on /filmcast.
[m] Heh. Well, thanks for the level-headed follow up. This video has attracted some trolls. All good. But maybe watch a few videos fully before declaring that I'm derivative of something else? Kinda gets under the skin (and isn't really that true other than Plinkett slurs words and I slur words, which is more of a sendup of that shit on UA-cam than a real thing.)
It's hilarious no matter who engages in that style.
"Very specific style"
It's a comical way of putting "contrarian opinion here" and adds emphasis. The "devil voice" lines are all processed for enhancement.
Specific style my ass.
That was an utterly beautiful summary of the film! Thank you. :)
This is the best video essay I have ever seen. Nailed it. I am going to be a patreon supporter.
Love transcends gravity is a perfect sentence for whether or not you like this film. You find it beautiful. I think it's overwrought romanticized bullshit. Retconning physics in order to fit our preconceptions is the bedrock of shitty science and enforced ignorance. This movie celebrates that kind of ignorance. Love that you review from your heart, but can't go along with you on this.
I say Adaptation, and I still dislike Interstellar (dem vishuals tho!)
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These videos are awesome, i've been bingewatching all of these in the last few days and the thought and work that goes into these videos deserve way more views. Not only do i find them interesting they are also highly entertaining. Keep up the awesome work.
Mikey you are like Rick Sanchez and Dumbledore wrapped together into one weird beautiful poet. Love your show.
The fact that Nolan thought that love was special enough to warrant a preachy, jarring and unsubtle speech about feels so immature, because he's treating it like it's this special, metaphysical thing. It's like the movie's inner morals and philosophies switched from that of an intelligent science fiction film to the end of a Full House episode. Love is not unique. Love is not special. Emotions like hate, greed and sadness can drive someone just as much as love can to do dramatic things. Love is not some kind of external force that acts upon us, it is a combination of complex chemical reactions in our brain that, just like any other emotion, influence us to make various decisions and act in various ways. That's it. If you think anything else you're lying to yourself for the sake of making life seem more significant and special and important than it is. But, if you're religious, I guess you're already doing that.
Wow, somebody stuck "God is Dead and we killed him", too many times in their head. Look, i'm not saying that what you are saying is completely wrong, because i agree with some things you said, but first, you are spouting nihilism like it's a solid argument, without actually understanding that Nihilism is actually creating meaning by YOURSELF IN ANY WAY YOU FEEL LIKE IT, not wait for some metaphysical concept to give you that meaning and purpose, which takes me to my second point:
"That's it. If you think anything else you're lying to yourself for the sake of making life seem more significant and special and important than it is."
Who gives you the right to decide whether or not i want to believe in love as some force or as something external to me? Sure, the feeling of love is a chemical reaction, but what is bloody NOT? Everything is a chemical reaction, but still it doesn't mean that it can't have meaning.
I could bloody say you are the one lying to yourself, to refuse to accept something bigger than yourself, or recognize that other people may have different views and not stuck in "cliche movie edgy quotes about love".
Life is important for me, and many people, you don't get to blur it out only because it's your opinion. That's it.
SixxBlake999 Well put
Of course when you conveniently leave out the worst bits, it could be pretty good movie. I can see why you left out the ending, for example. Or Nolan endlessly repeating the same elements until it became annoying (e.g. the poem). Unfortunately, that is not the movie I saw. I found it okay and entertaining and interesting at times but it's very flawed and for plenty of people, the flaws made it an annoying watch. Got to respect that.
The point of repeating that poem so many teams until it becomes a bunch of empty words is because for Caine's character they ARE empty words. Everytime he says it, he's lying, he already gave up on saving everyone. But in the end, it's exactly what Cooper and his daughter etc did, they refused to give up and in the end succeeded, putting value back into those words.
+Ralph Lindsen not to mention the poem is used to show character evolution for both Michael Caine's character and Murph. He's been living a lie he desperately was trying to making himself believe the whole time (ie. the poem) and saw in his death he could never find his conviction. He also stood as a second role model to Murph, who thinks TWO father figures have now let her down. Her conviction is strengthened by the poem and is the full force of the story.
I'm not sure what you mean by respecting that plenty of people didn't like the movie. Like, do you have to care more what other people think if more people think it? Is it wrong to like a movie, or to talk about things you like about a movie, if there are things in it that people don't like?
It's easier to be optimistic when you ignore the flaws in something that has a lot of them.
SilverShade1008, yeah... but fortunately Interstellar has VERY FEW flaws.
I wanted to say that I looooove your videos. I am someone who went to film school and appreciates art films from time to time, but blockbuster films (the good ones at least) are my true passion. I have often found it difficult to explain why I love some of these films so much, why I find them to be so great aside from being fun to watch and well-crafted. Now, I can just direct them to you because you have a way of breaking down exactly how I feel, from Interstellar to The Force Awakens. You deserve all the views and support from the UA-cam algorithm, and I wish you all the luck in the world. Keep making good stuff!
I just recently found out about your channel, and from the videos I've seen, you are one of my new favorite video essay channels! I love your editing, and music that you put into your videos. This video in particular reminded me of the key things that made me love this movie so much. Keep up the hard work, and you've gained a sub!