Anschluss Rush Has Been "Patched" - Hoi4
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- The changed the requirements for Anschluss Rushing between the beta and the live patch. Seriously, it was a waste of time even making the change. Anyone who wants to rush Anschluss can do so with ease without any real detriment.
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Going by what the dev diary said, they never intended to prevent early Anschluss. They just wanted to make it so you didn't exploit the game to get it.
but, if you can still do it in the same time why would it even matter?
So then logically remove the requirements. Problem solved lol
Trying to make sense of what paradox says
Ngmi
So they're preventing you from exploiting the game... by forcing you to produce more guns which are basically universally good for practically any playthrough rather than build a bunch of the other crappy equipment you're almost certain to replace within a couple years anyway. Yeah, okay. Thanks Paradox, I sure do hate making more guns 🥴
@@ertrick3693 when the game is balanced (and you are not playing vs unbuffed ai) tanks click inf (unless under tons of cas) and full with inf cant click full with inf, thus infantry is a temporary delay and not a Way to Win (in europe)
Can I get a wellness check for 71cloak?
Are you ok?
Hi, are you okay? You were the best hoi4 youtuber, based on straight facts and analysis, hope you come back soon!
in the last video he said he lost interest in the game
He could then broadcast my little pony or whatever he is doing now, or did he get an internet break from a judge? I don't watch the television for 10 years now, but I need some input from not complete mentally handicapped or ideologiezed ppl xD
Miss you too cloak. Hopefully you didnt get bored of HOI4. Im still waiting for this naval video 😢.
Whole paradox team is literally trying to solve this rush but our chad man here 71cloak is here lol
You are wrong.
You think they did this fixes to stop the Anschluss exploit.
But the real intent was to make the Artillery Only World Conquest Germany strat impossible since it's the most op and superior strat
I still think it's a good change, it feels more realistic even if it makes little difference gameplay-wise. Because historically, there was no magic barrier that prevented Germany from doing Anschluss before 1938 either, it just happened to be that date where they were able to do it. And now we also need to have an army that's actually decently equipped to be able to pull it off. And if you want to rush that, sure, go ahead. I doubt that Paradox wants to completely prevent an early Anschluss.
Sir, this is an alt history game.
@@CatnamedMittens Exactly, which is why it should be possible to do Anschluss before the historical date. But even alt-history should be plausible, which is why I appreciate the change.
There was a magic barrier, its what helped stop it initially in 1934
@@FLUX.2226 I didn't think most people thought it was implausible before.
@@CatnamedMittens Not implausible by itself, but the manpower requirement seems to be meant as a "you need to appear intimidating enough towards the rest of the world in order to force Anschluss", at least that's how I see it. But if you just field 500k men without a single gun between them, which is what you could do previously, that shouldn't be the case. Now you need to field an army that is both large enough and decently equipped, which feels more plausible to meet this intimidation requirement.
Miss you cloak, wondering what your thoughts are on new factories and new Scandinavian dlc
i miss your advice bro
unironically the best, most informative hoi4 youtuber there is. love your shit, take your time though if you need to before coming back
I never rush Anschluss :)) I always get the research slot first before taking Anschluss, let Austria build more civs
Miss your vids man :’(
we love you please come back and post more often 😢
Been a good minute since I got a 71cloak video. Happy to see you back!
It's good to see you back on Hoi4 brother
Sure miss your videos buddy
I think it makes at least more sense than before because a 500k army with guns would likely cause a country like Austria to submit, but 500k trained soldiers without guns shouldn't.
@@canraid3477 Nazi failed once in 1934
@@canraid3477 There would have been resistance if the Nazi army didn't have any guns. Bet you think the Czechs wanted to give Nazi Germany all their territory too, lol.
@@nolin132, you two are right. I think I've overestimated how popular the idea of German unification was. And no Czechoslovakia did not want to voluntarily be annexed lmao
New DLC has been released! I'm still awaiting your sophisticated analysis!
he's busy with his new channel hoe_math
I wouldnt want to rush anschluss anyway, you'll miss out on like 7 factories and more importantly building slots from their focuses
Any chance there are some Arms Against Tyranny guides coming out?
Loved the super informative videos hope you return soon ❤ If you’re dealing with real life stuff I wish you the best
Bro please come back we miss you
Old survivor tactic from multiplayer, produce out of date equipment - I always set 5 factories to out of date rifles for reserve, then another 10 for up-to-date equipment, this would work too for this focus.
You dont get the production efficiency tho, not worth it
We need you back for arms against tyranny, vanilla hoi4 multiplayer is dead, there is no info of meta templates anywhere.
How hard it could be to change all these triggers based around of number of divisions (that can be easily exploited) to some integral number that represents combat power which also would actually make sense?
I wish 71Cloak would come back and do a best Big Mutha division design for the latest width reductions, I want my big mutha big HP, unkillable infantry horde.
You were such a good youtuber :(
What happened to him 😢
@@TheCetarius he's busy with his new channel hoe_math
do you know any practical uses of the assault battalion support company from the italian focus tree
I'd like to think that a dev watched this video and as soon as the video finished let out a groan
Is navy meta vid coming? I would be really glad to see it.
I feel like instead of trying to stop a player from rushing Anschluss by mechanics they should instead give an incentive to not rush it. For example with the Sudetenland you lose access to the civilian factory advisor so it makes it not wise to rush the focus unless you are doing early war. Maybe an idea is that if you rush it you get a negative army exp modifier for 180 days if you do it before 1937.
by the time war comes, that negative modifier is long gone
The incentive to not do it is you buff the allies industry by increasing world tension too fast. In MP rushing anschluss isn't actually that good. Axis doesn't have enough time to produce and allies get rid of all their debuffs early af
Obviously in sp the ai doesn't actually put up any challenge if you play a major. That's why rushing anschluss may seem op
Could you do a video testing the Japanese torpedo cruisers cost efficiency vs other cruisers and destroyers
Hope you come back soon ❤️
Why doesn't the game just start with italy guaranteeing Austria like it did in real life then have a focus that makes Italy remove the guarantee
I sort of lost interest in the game as well, until I tried to do some meta Italy runs to try to beat the British Navy. It's pretty hard, but I think you could do it!
No more testing? I was wondering if they repaired navy...
I even designed Navy AI for US vs Japan to be somewhat efficient.
Ay man can you do a updated guide for Japan for BBA? That would help me a lot
Chef please come back. Army needs your service
Bro we need you, pls come back :(
The new requirements don't make rushing it much harder or impossible but it just makes it a little more difficult to get anschluss on time IME
Bro got kidnapped by Paradox
Maybe paradox should make a better german hist focus tree to alleviate these problems (I don't care if its the guy who made turkey's or Spains tree lol, let me have my Goring path where you get burgers)
Imma watch as Paradox makes makes you unable to do the focus until 1938 period
just hire 71cloak to test ur stuff already paradox
This isn't an exploit, this is literally just 71cloak showing off the intended mechanic and complaining about it.
thx very much
FYI I need some more of that premium content, where it at?
This comment section has been the most critical, anti paradox, anti HOI4 developer comment section I have ever seen.
I personally like the change, I Have 2k hours and I know some of you sweaty nerds have 5k but please remember we are not normal players.
If you can rush it then rush it.
Y’all forget the point of the focus is to add flavor the point is that historically it wasn’t like Germany had to wait till a set date to Anschluss, rather Germany needed to be intimidating with an armed forces strong enough to strong arm Austria.
Now you can argue about the arbitrary number but the people saying “they should just remove all requirements blah blah blah” have truly ascended to ridiculous levels.
In the words of feedback “is HOI4 a history game or a a computer game? It’s probably somewhere in the middle.”
This patch attempts to add a little to the history part of the game.
(That all being said I think a more ideal barrier would be based on total IC of army and Airforce but there are a million reasons I can think of that they didn’t do that.)
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
@TruckerDave650 I’m not convinced it was an attempt to make it harder as quite clearly it didn’t work and anyone could see that instantly. It was attempting to make the game more flavourful. Now people can argue if that’s a good idea or not and can argue if it succeeds at that goal or not. But at least see it for what it was instead of arguing about something it wasn’t intended to do
@TruckerDave650 no one’s scared of 500k untrained people with 12 rifles between them. But suddenly if they all have guns it’s a different story. Since the whole idea of needing manpower in the field is to basically intimidate other nations that if they didn’t submit they’d simply be invaded.
Also as I’ve already said it’s obviously not hard to rush, if anything it’s more obvious. I don’t have that much experience in the game and never knew you could limit equipment hand out like it was needed to do previously, but simply needing a certain amount of guns produced anyone can work out the maths for. Its so simple that no one couldn’t work it out which would probably include paradox themselves.
Is canada open ???
Is this a reupload or am I having deja Vu?
They did a second patch lmao
The most inefficient way of stopping an Anschluss rush.
they should increase it to like 100k OR change it to that you need to have at least 40k guns AND some other like art or aa guns etc
Pardon my ignorance but I haven't played Germany in a loooooooong time, why use anschluss rush?
It's a numbers game, the quicker you get an extra 10 civilian factories the more your industry can grow exponentially.
civs exponentially help you grow, so getting more is so unbeliveably good
@@honeybadger6275 ah so it's only about the civs not about something to do with the focuses after it, understandable have a nice day
why would u rush anschluss tho. Let them build their civs and infrastructure
Very early war... So if you play unhistorical, it is "good" move.
Rush and take England before 1938...
@@haukionkannel how r u naval invading them in 38?
@TruckerDave650 pretty sure that has been patched
@71Cloak You should make a similar test but for the Soviet Union, because the 2 year or 2.5 year before war would apply different for later wars. If you have the time Thank you!
Just watched your "When should you switch from civs to mills" video.
You can't do an Artillery only challenge anymore!? This is outrageous. This is unfair.
And thats why there is thw crY about spacemarienes. When your game is not balanced well.
they should put
"After Jan 1 1938"
If you are doing Arty only, “realistically” Austria would have never joined Germany, and the Allies would have never allowed the Rhineland being remilitarized
Just edit its code and make the original requirements
The disconnect between metaslaves and people who enjoy flavor focuses is evident in this comment section
I don't even play the games multiplayer nor do I play the game without mods and still think its dumb and a waste of dev time.
This is vanilla HOI4’s Germany. It intrinsically has no flavor.
RT56 players: There was a patch?
That mod is such a laggy mess.
Just proves that those who want to exploit the game will find a way.
Still easy 3rd, got this in a recent game without even targeting this goal
pls new video
why would u want to rush anchluss?
My thoughts exactly. My only thought is if your playing non-historical it might be best to rush them as they might be more likely to give in if you don't let them build up.
@@runedova126 its because you want to get austrias civs earlier
@@runedova126 unless ur in war economy the extra factories is lost to some degree, waiting a year to get war economy then do anchluss?
@@alexmannen1991 More Civs is more Civs, the earlier the Civs the higher the exponential rise.
You can get war eco by the time the spanish civil war happens, or earlier if you gut some political power.
It doesn't matter really, you start on partial mob, those factories will not go to waste.
@@alexmannen1991 with germany you can go war economy very early, as soon as the spanish civil war starts mid '36, so gaining the austrian economy can be a nice boost
first!
the meta strat is to time anchluss focus so the fouc completes after the first mefo bills increase PP cost, to reset the pp cost back to 0.20
@TruckerDave650 I rush anchluss because it helps with your economy in long term taking in more civs and mills to convert to civs.
@@aidan883 71cloak explained before that building civs is nearly useless, especially if you're expanding and conquering rapidly
@TruckerDave650 It depends on the playstyle. There is no objective way to play this game.
@TruckerDave650 this game has no right way to play and building civs early do indeed pay off. It entirely depends what the player wants to do. Delaying mills means stronger ecoonmy to build More mills late game.
Building more civs allows you to build mils faster, but at the cost of building those mils later. .if the mils are built earlier, they also produce for longer.
For me personally, I don't spam out mills unless im playing wide. Almost all major powers at the start of the game with the exceptionn of Japan and France is it worth it to build civs early.
@TruckerDave650 Yes it does. As someone who plays germany alot and has many hours in this game, its better to convert atleast 10 mills to civs.
If you can't think thats possible to beat the allies awhile converting mills, than you just suck at the game. Thats on you.
Just let them rush Anschluss but make it less likely to do diplomatically until a certain date or whatever.
Is there anyway to get past giant awakens early now? The game makes you do it in 1938 and have 10% more ws than before(nvm I’m retarded)
@TruckerDave650 oh ok nvm then I forgot to turn productive off from a MP game
i dont get why they dont add a WT requirement tbh, the UK still has it, why not put down a minimum WT of ~30-50%? after 30% its probably alr like 1939 and some war devolved into ww2 (if germany didnt do it already). but yeah WS reqs should at least get increased by 5% for owners of MtG, to offset the pride of the fleet bonus
@TruckerDave650 i wouldn't put it that way per-se, i dont remember USA's exact mechanics but i do remember that the difference between the UK with NSB and without NSB is clear as day: because you get 5% from Pride of fleet and 5% from attache you can easily go up economy laws. without these options you need to use the burma road focus line to get high up enough. else you get kicked back to civ eco when chamberlain takes over.
but that does remind me, yeah it should be 10% minimum, 5% to offset pride of fleet and 5% to off-set the attache you can send to china
@TruckerDave650 from a historical PoV 38 is way too early, maybe when doing alt-hist paths that gib some extra WS or lower the focus's WT requirements
Man i dont get it why they do this bullshit when anything they need its set up thet all required manpower need to be fully equipt
They did that and because player can affect what "fully" equipt soldies have (aka nothing) people just did division that were fully equipts, but who did not have any guns :)
This is much better now! Maybe push the needed guns little bit closer to what fully equipted divisions really need. But at least they nopw have some guns!
Has anyone ever used the equipment restriction on divisions for anything else other than exploiting? I believe it is a feature that ought to be removed altogether.
Yeah, I sometimes use it so something new I started producing will really only be supplied to my tank divisions by removing it from all other divisions,
Its good for not wasting new/good equipment on garrisons
I have, useful for going over specific armor values.
Yes
You can use it to restrict garrisons to old equipment only. Which is a valid use of this feature.
Why not finally make that tanka with normal guns are usefull. And that the ai also builds tanks. Game is really stupid in this. Can t balance the game. And just skip ai to have tanks.
This honestly just seems like a flavour thing. 500k untrained people with a total of 12 rifles between them isn’t going to make any countries bend over and submit, but if they all have a gun that’s a very different story.
First!