Imagine printing all this on 8 1/2 by 11 paper. Then taping it all together. Better to hire a print shop. The parts would have to be numbered. Maybe Ikea could help? 😉
It males sense for the corridors to not directly overlap, if there's a breach in one area that effects two decks there's a better chance that one corridor will remain usable if the other is effected.
I love the way the briefing room fits into the superstructure. I never thought about how the deck supports had to be hidden behind the room walls, but of course, Star Fleet wouldn't waste materials on solid walls or massive bulkheads. It would be built more like a skyscraper, with the outer hull protected by the Structural Integrity Field and Defector Shields. The interior would be made of thinner materials, probably easily removed, so rooms can be quickly modified and moved around. There are large areas inside the ship, which, as Michel said, would probably be supported by streamlined braces at intervals across the room. But those struts could be in specific places that are intended for atriums. (In smaller room they could be decorative) I assume the outer shell of the ship will be just a wall panel that is easily removable, so you can get to the interior. But the briefing room is just asking for a window there. Or maybe not, I don't think we ever saw a window in the briefing room. But I'm pretty sure there are lounges around the rim of the saucer for crew to sit in and look at the stars.
I hope you finish this build!!! The requirements on such huge a scale is enormous! I salute you sir for this attempt at making the best ship ever designed for CINEMA! EVER! The sketch details that your putting together now just look so amazing!!! You are a amazing talent sir! A true artists! Will you be adding any electronics to the build like lights and EFX in the engines? That would be complicated but really blow this piece out of the water for sure!! Thank you for sharing this amazing journey!
Thanks for your wonderful comment. Yes, my intention is to add lighting to this model. My life's work will be the absolute and ultimate model build of the majestic USS Enterprise ever made :-)
@@mrtrek2117 LOL that is awesome!!! I will follow you to till the end of this journey!!! I need to see this! Again thank you for sharing this great build! : )
The triangles on the underside have long been suspected to be landing pads for an emergency landing, I'll be interested in seeing how you account for their internal mechanisms.
The sense of scale with this build is incredible. As you say, this is an enormous ship, and I've never understood why all future Trek ships got so ludicrously huge. Just looks at how gentle the curve is in the corridor illustrates how BIG the saucer is! Also ::cough:: Patreon! ::cough::
Thanks Matt, awesome comment, I love the way you notice the 'gentle' curve of the corridor in the outer part of the saucer. The corridor we saw on the show was the inner part of the saucer on deck 7 (sick bay and the transporter room and such) But on the outer part, the curve is much less obvious. I do actually have a patreon www.patreon.com/MrTrek
@@mrtrek2117 Just signed up on Patreon! Thrilled to support the channel here. And if you ever have any questions on bagpipes, feel free to head over to mine: www.youtube.com/@MattWillisBagpiper
If you're following the Franz Joseph plans, you're exactly right about deck 6 and 7 corridors. I put all the FJ decks into photoshop and lined them up...and it works pretty good. If you have access to Adobe Photoshop, I'd be happy to send you that file.
If the corridors don't sit on top of each other then the yellow ladder idea may need to be rethought. Perhaps they are installed in that alcove so that the alcove on one side of the deck 6 corridor aligns with the alcove on the other side of the deck 7 corridor? And possibly the same on the other decks. Then it would make sense why they need the ladders in the alcoves.
Please tell me you'll swap cardboard for plastic (or in some places, metal) once you're happy with the details. There is a non-zero chance something this big will be exposed to water, humidity, or unintentional loads at some point in it's life. Now I have to go back and watch from the start - this looks amazing!
In his introduction to the series video, I believe, he said that these cardboard models are prototypes, and will be using something more robust when he goes for the 'final' build.
The briefing roon and cafeteria/rec room need to have the visible curved beam structure details that we see in that set in TOS. Currently, your briefing room mock up is missing these details.
Just a minor point, but I wonder if the viewscreen would be the other side of the table, or the table would be the other way round, so that people sitting at the table are looking at the wide end of the table and not trying to see past the people at the narrow end of the table. I think that's the kind of thing they would have thought of in the design of the sets - and therefore the ship.
This is a project of a lifetime, I eagerly watch for your updates and progress. I do have a couple of questions, perhaps I have missed something, but even made out of cardboard and paper, how have you solved the structural integrity of supporting so much weight on this scale. I would be very curious to know. Also making me feel bad. . . I have the 1/350 Enterprise refit, its still in the box, its the one model that scares the hell out of me due to the detail I want to put into it.
If I remember correctly, there were a few supplementary support beams running across the ceiling and down the wall of the conference room. Did you know that the shape of the conference room table top is modeled off of the flight deck of a U.S. aircraft carrier?
That's startling work! But I thought the deck 6 meeting room was on the rim and the deck 7 meeting room was between the security office and one of the transporter rooms...?
This is just a test model so it's not in any way accurate to the FJ blueprints. I'm also taking the liberty in this build to re-arrange a few things here and there and add elements like a multi-level rec area in the secondary hull and such ;-)
@@mrtrek2117 there is a two-level room in Franz Joseph plans... decks 17 & 18 forward. The space contains trees!! deck 17 is a cafeteria & deck 18 the "Botany Section"
@@brookestephen Yeah I know, but this is where I have to deviate from those plans a little because it's just too small. I'll be including that area but updating it to be a bigger space that is more 'decorated' as opposed to a few chairs and tables. This is going to require some re-imagining of the interior to a more accommodating level.
Beautiful work! Does deck 7 need to move the corridor back to increase space or does deck 6 need to shrink? Loved the view looking down the corridor on deck 7…..I can almost imagine crew members walking down them!
It's the deck 7 corridor that needs to move back to give more space to the rooms. Love that you can imagine crewmembers walking along the corridors, it's something I do on a daily basis! :-)
Nice work. Just thinking... If the two deck corridors are not in the same vertical plain, How will the turbo shafts be in line with each other ant the ends of the hallways?
Hi James, thanks for the comment and the question. If the turbo shaft is for the elevator travelling vertically then yes they have to be aligned, if they are travelling horizontally then they don't have to be. On deck 6 the horizontal shaft will just travel a little way more to the corridor than the shaft on deck 7. Hope that clarifies?
Won't there be an airlock along the edge of Deck 6 at the most outboard section, near the Navigational blinkers? A "main service corridor" to loading cargo and personel?
I'd also expect that there would be a servicing area interior of the Navigational blinkers. Again, never seen onscreen so you might get to improvise those areas too. OH! the 'glowing white squares" along the topside of the saucer.. Any idea what those were, and what might be under them?
I'm an artist with no formal architect training, I just love creating environments and working with physical models. Thanks for the comment, the sub, and the complement! Welcome aboard! :-)
Can I just ask, if you follow this Franz blokes plans how would that work with the ladders going up from each deck? Surely if the lower deck is more set back then that won't be coming up it the upper deck where that ladder alcove is? Unless each ladder between decks is offset from the one above. ie: you have to climb one ladder, get off that then step on to another ladder at the side of it. But that makes no sense and wasn't how it was seen in the show I don't think. I might be wrong, but your design seems to make more sense.
Great comment, I also considered this. But if the decks are offset it would simply mean that you climb up on the left side on deck 7 and emerge on the right side on deck 6. The alcove is in the same position for both decks but the entry and exit point are different.
Needs vacuum forming. It would make this build easier for repetitive parts. A heat lamp, vacuum cleaner, pegboard, and gaffer's tape are the main components. Though I cringe at the thought of hearing a vacuum cleaner on my headphones! 😮 Please warn and mute immediately if you do it on camera. ❤
There is going to be a WHOLE LOT a repetitive elements/objects you'll need to build maybe in a bunch of large quantities to facilitate a faster build up of this model. This seems that will be a continuous and monotonous amount a repetitive object building. Especially at this large a scale! You needs lots of superstructure parts. Lots of corridor panels and floor panels. Corridor panel “plant-on”/panel details. LOTS of chairs, tables, beds, computer terminals, rotating viewscreens and table communication “wedges”, etc. A WHOLE LOT of repetitive elements/objects in this ship! You may want to find ways to create these objects in a faster or more efficicient manner over time working on the actual model build.
A girder takes to the air and your passion for such a simple object is infectious... great stuff
this is great. can't wait to see the final product.
I can imagine this project being made available via a file that allows the components to be cut out to whatever scale the builder likes.
Imagine printing all this on 8 1/2 by 11 paper. Then taping it all together.
Better to hire a print shop.
The parts would have to be numbered.
Maybe Ikea could help? 😉
Awesome!
Fantasic progress! I agree that those ceiling struts give more substance to the deck and sets the imagination going for the deck above.
Thanks, it does feel like that. A real solid structure for deck 6! Can't wait to build it and show it! Stay tuned :-)
AMAZING attention to detail! Keep up the great work!
It males sense for the corridors to not directly overlap, if there's a breach in one area that effects two decks there's a better chance that one corridor will remain usable if the other is effected.
I love the way the briefing room fits into the superstructure. I never thought about how the deck supports had to be hidden behind the room walls, but of course, Star Fleet wouldn't waste materials on solid walls or massive bulkheads. It would be built more like a skyscraper, with the outer hull protected by the Structural Integrity Field and Defector Shields. The interior would be made of thinner materials, probably easily removed, so rooms can be quickly modified and moved around.
There are large areas inside the ship, which, as Michel said, would probably be supported by streamlined braces at intervals across the room. But those struts could be in specific places that are intended for atriums. (In smaller room they could be decorative)
I assume the outer shell of the ship will be just a wall panel that is easily removable, so you can get to the interior. But the briefing room is just asking for a window there. Or maybe not, I don't think we ever saw a window in the briefing room. But I'm pretty sure there are lounges around the rim of the saucer for crew to sit in and look at the stars.
Great work! 😍
I hope you finish this build!!! The requirements on such huge a scale is enormous! I salute you sir for this attempt at making the best ship ever designed for CINEMA! EVER!
The sketch details that your putting together now just look so amazing!!! You are a amazing talent sir! A true artists!
Will you be adding any electronics to the build like lights and EFX in the engines? That would be complicated but really blow this piece out of the water for sure!!
Thank you for sharing this amazing journey!
Thanks for your wonderful comment. Yes, my intention is to add lighting to this model. My life's work will be the absolute and ultimate model build of the majestic USS Enterprise ever made :-)
@@mrtrek2117 LOL that is awesome!!! I will follow you to till the end of this journey!!! I need to see this! Again thank you for sharing this great build! : )
The triangles on the underside have long been suspected to be landing pads for an emergency landing, I'll be interested in seeing how you account for their internal mechanisms.
Now that will be an interesting challenge for sure!
The sense of scale with this build is incredible. As you say, this is an enormous ship, and I've never understood why all future Trek ships got so ludicrously huge. Just looks at how gentle the curve is in the corridor illustrates how BIG the saucer is!
Also ::cough:: Patreon! ::cough::
Thanks Matt, awesome comment, I love the way you notice the 'gentle' curve of the corridor in the outer part of the saucer. The corridor we saw on the show was the inner part of the saucer on deck 7 (sick bay and the transporter room and such) But on the outer part, the curve is much less obvious. I do actually have a patreon www.patreon.com/MrTrek
@@mrtrek2117 Just signed up on Patreon! Thrilled to support the channel here. And if you ever have any questions on bagpipes, feel free to head over to mine: www.youtube.com/@MattWillisBagpiper
@@MattWillisBagpiper Hi Matt, epic that you signed up on Patreon, the support is really appreciated! I will check out those bagpipes for sure! :-)
I am loving your work and your videos.
Thanks Mela, I really appreciate that! :-)
If you're following the Franz Joseph plans, you're exactly right about deck 6 and 7 corridors. I put all the FJ decks into photoshop and lined them up...and it works pretty good. If you have access to Adobe Photoshop, I'd be happy to send you that file.
It will be interesting to see how you handle the underside hul curvature that cuts into Deck 7 from below.
I'm looking forward to showing that ;-)
Walking down THOSE corridors would be like the terminal connectors at JFK!
I’m a huge fan of Star Trek. I’m actually watching Deep Space Nine right now
And a Police Box standing up against the wall where also has hung plans for the Enterprise.
Talk about hallowed ground, good sir!
If the corridors don't sit on top of each other then the yellow ladder idea may need to be rethought. Perhaps they are installed in that alcove so that the alcove on one side of the deck 6 corridor aligns with the alcove on the other side of the deck 7 corridor? And possibly the same on the other decks. Then it would make sense why they need the ladders in the alcoves.
Please tell me you'll swap cardboard for plastic (or in some places, metal) once you're happy with the details. There is a non-zero chance something this big will be exposed to water, humidity, or unintentional loads at some point in it's life. Now I have to go back and watch from the start - this looks amazing!
In his introduction to the series video, I believe, he said that these cardboard models are prototypes, and will be using something more robust when he goes for the 'final' build.
@@ThoroughbredofSin Indeed, it's all in the video, thanks Cy ;-)
IIRC the hull was made of Tritanium and the structure might be as well.
The briefing roon and cafeteria/rec room need to have the visible curved beam structure details that we see in that set in TOS. Currently, your briefing room mock up is missing these details.
Indeed, the model is not finished yet ;-)
Just a minor point, but I wonder if the viewscreen would be the other side of the table, or the table would be the other way round, so that people sitting at the table are looking at the wide end of the table and not trying to see past the people at the narrow end of the table. I think that's the kind of thing they would have thought of in the design of the sets - and therefore the ship.
This is a project of a lifetime, I eagerly watch for your updates and progress. I do have a couple of questions, perhaps I have missed something, but even made out of cardboard and paper, how have you solved the structural integrity of supporting so much weight on this scale. I would be very curious to know. Also making me feel bad. . . I have the 1/350 Enterprise refit, its still in the box, its the one model that scares the hell out of me due to the detail I want to put into it.
Thanks Eric! The final build will be supported on a metal and wood frame :-)
If I remember correctly, there were a few supplementary support beams running across the ceiling and down the wall of the conference room.
Did you know that the shape of the conference room table top is modeled off of the flight deck of a U.S. aircraft carrier?
That's startling work! But I thought the deck 6 meeting room was on the rim and the deck 7 meeting room was between the security office and one of the transporter rooms...?
This is just a test model so it's not in any way accurate to the FJ blueprints. I'm also taking the liberty in this build to re-arrange a few things here and there and add elements like a multi-level rec area in the secondary hull and such ;-)
@@mrtrek2117 there is a two-level room in Franz Joseph plans... decks 17 & 18 forward. The space contains trees!! deck 17 is a cafeteria & deck 18 the "Botany Section"
@@brookestephen Yeah I know, but this is where I have to deviate from those plans a little because it's just too small. I'll be including that area but updating it to be a bigger space that is more 'decorated' as opposed to a few chairs and tables. This is going to require some re-imagining of the interior to a more accommodating level.
Beautiful work! Does deck 7 need to move the corridor back to increase space or does deck 6 need to shrink? Loved the view looking down the corridor on deck 7…..I can almost imagine crew members walking down them!
It's the deck 7 corridor that needs to move back to give more space to the rooms. Love that you can imagine crewmembers walking along the corridors, it's something I do on a daily basis! :-)
Nice work. Just thinking... If the two deck corridors are not in the same vertical plain, How will the turbo shafts be in line with each other ant the ends of the hallways?
Hi James, thanks for the comment and the question. If the turbo shaft is for the elevator travelling vertically then yes they have to be aligned, if they are travelling horizontally then they don't have to be. On deck 6 the horizontal shaft will just travel a little way more to the corridor than the shaft on deck 7. Hope that clarifies?
It’s held together with self sealing stem bolts! LOL!
Thanks for the comment, I like that. Let's call it SSB tech!
Won't there be an airlock along the edge of Deck 6 at the most outboard section, near the Navigational blinkers? A "main service corridor" to loading cargo and personel?
We never saw one in the original show but it would make total sense to have one in the location you suggest.
I'd also expect that there would be a servicing area interior of the Navigational blinkers. Again, never seen onscreen so you might get to improvise those areas too.
OH! the 'glowing white squares" along the topside of the saucer.. Any idea what those were, and what might be under them?
Look at VAC FORM for things like the view screen.....make many in minutes.
Will do, thanks Dave ;-)
Don't forget the dimple at the bottom of the saucer it eats away half the deck there
New subscriber here. What do you do for a living? Do you have formal training in architectural modeling? This is fantastic work.
I'm an artist with no formal architect training, I just love creating environments and working with physical models. Thanks for the comment, the sub, and the complement! Welcome aboard! :-)
Can I just ask, if you follow this Franz blokes plans how would that work with the ladders going up from each deck? Surely if the lower deck is more set back then that won't be coming up it the upper deck where that ladder alcove is? Unless each ladder between decks is offset from the one above. ie: you have to climb one ladder, get off that then step on to another ladder at the side of it. But that makes no sense and wasn't how it was seen in the show I don't think. I might be wrong, but your design seems to make more sense.
Great comment, I also considered this. But if the decks are offset it would simply mean that you climb up on the left side on deck 7 and emerge on the right side on deck 6. The alcove is in the same position for both decks but the entry and exit point are different.
@@mrtrek2117 thank you for explaining that to me and sorry if I was a bit thick at understanding the plan.
@@spudman869 No worries dude, I had to build a little cardboard 3d to work it out. Will show it in the next vid ;-)
Needs vacuum forming.
It would make this build easier for repetitive parts.
A heat lamp, vacuum cleaner, pegboard, and gaffer's tape are the main components.
Though I cringe at the thought of hearing a vacuum cleaner on my headphones! 😮 Please warn and mute immediately if you do it on camera. ❤
There is going to be a WHOLE LOT a repetitive elements/objects you'll need to build maybe in a bunch of large quantities to facilitate a faster build up of this model.
This seems that will be a continuous and monotonous amount a repetitive object building. Especially at this large a scale!
You needs lots of superstructure parts.
Lots of corridor panels and floor panels. Corridor panel “plant-on”/panel details.
LOTS of chairs, tables, beds, computer terminals, rotating viewscreens and table communication “wedges”, etc.
A WHOLE LOT of repetitive elements/objects in this ship!
You may want to find ways to create these objects in a faster or more efficicient manner over time working on the actual model build.
Crowdsource?
Also, lots of corridor door signs with actual room labels on them, like we see in the series
@@afterexposure
Crowdsource what, exactly?
Do not understand your comment.
@@MrMichelPM Need a thousand chairs? Get a dozen fans to 3D print 'em in batches. Like that.
Of course, these things will be addressed as the project develops :-)