yes. the only reason they dont make student-teacher romances, with the student being 17 about to turn 18 or just being 18 is because if they were any younger it would be illegal.. legal doesnt make it right tho
@@raahimkhan6791 She is not praising the book, which should usually discourage people from reading it, so it's not "promoting it" Does this bring more attention to the book? Yes, but it's not good attention
Tbh all the bizarre sexual fantasies and desires sound very realistic for teenagers... but IRL they simply never materialize and mostly stay in their heads.
“Either Elle Kennedy is writing what she, as an adult, thinks teenagers act like or I am learning some very dark things about the other teenagers in my high school.” That’s always my reaction too, Leonie. I’m aware I lived a sheltered life but sheesh, who were these teenagers???! Great video as always-have a great week!
Honestly, 90% of what she writes makes me think she's just a guy writing under a fake name because so much of it is stuff that chauvinistic teen age guys THINK that women want.
When I was 18 I had my first kiss. That's all. Just one little kiss without tongue. I know there are teenagers who make experiences very early but like most of my friends have not. I'd say it's normal to be childish at 18 still
there’s nearly no difference in the maturity between 17 and 18 year olds, so the fact that the students are overage means basically nothing. they’re still in _highschool_ …
God the bisexual rep is amazing. Elle Kennedy knows that us bisexual will literally die if we don’t have sex with every person we come across especially if the person is married
@@OtakuTemmie How do you guys think you were made, your parents were made, your grandparents were made, and so on? Maybe it wasn’t for pleasure, but there definitely was some digging involved..
Honestly, if this wasn't a teacher student romance, the Lawson plotline would genuinely be so hilarious, cause it's like that audio, "It ain't homewrecking if you sleep with both of them" 😅
It reminds me of this tweet I've seen of a dude who was drunk and kissed this girl but then he didn't want her boyfriend to be made so he kissed him too. The main dude then woke the next day in a group chat and two of them sent him a 'did you get home safe babe♥️'
It reminded me more of Gossip Girl tbh. At least the "private school full of rich kids having sex and doing drugs BUT our main charachter is this one outsider that's somehow also in this school".
As soon as I read “teacher student threesome” in the thumbnail I was like “OK are we talking two students, one teacher, or two teachers, one student. Because both are bad but one is worse.”😅
Yeah Elle Kennedy is all around awful 😭she fetishises sapphic relationships in her series yet writes mlm romance, while also writing very stereotypical harmful rep in other situations (plus sized rep, poc etc.) and the fact that SA was included so that Garrett could 'fix' her magically is so bizarre. And ofc, like you mentioned, the misogyny is very apparent. This book sounds like a mess too.
@@violetiolite no fucking clue honestly I'm just explaining how saying that fetishizing Sapphic relationships is bad isn't the same as saying Sapphic relationships are bad but as for the author I can't say much 💀
When she just casually called her "cupcake", My neighbors had probably woke up to my high pitch scream While I threw myself on my bed at that moment. stay still my shipping heart..
My fiance and I write highly problematic smut to each other due to being long distance. We both acknowledge it as incredible shit. We always get a good laugh out of people saying "yeah I will publish this shit and see nothing wrong with it".
I'm sorry I'm still reeling from Paper Princess. How....HOW is this woman published, and who is her publisher so I can submit bc clearly they allow everything.
Because of books and series like this in my country we have a joke "American high schooler" which means a person who does crazy things like this while being a teenager. We know that it's not a common thing in real life but its really funny
As a cyber sec guy, I must say that it's hilarious how people imagine what hacking really is and how it really works. They just add "I'm hacker, of course I hacked you." like it's just a normal sunday, and he hacked 10 different companies before getting out of bed.
I have no computer expertise, so correct me if I'm wrong- but isn't most hacking just like a game of chess? Like you try to find a way into their defenses, you wait for their security to retaliate, you do it again, etc. etc?
@@loltrol3920 it does but Hollywood and YA fiction make it seem like most if not all teens are like this. Which is false plus it gets tiresome seeing the same toxic tropes over and over again.
@@loltrol3920 It happens, but they make it seem like it's a really common occurrence. At least in my country (where Elite was made so this is context from Spain), teenagers start sneaking out to drink at around 14-15, but most of them will do it occasionally, if at all. You can see people as young as thirteen smoking but statistics have shown that at least in my country there are less teenagers smoking than others generations before. As for other substances, weed is the most common and strongest thing someone will have, but depending on the person most people will have it occasionally. And all these habits tend to stop after Secundary school of college, because in a way they work as a form of rebellion and growth for those who do it, so when they grow up, they just don't see the point anymore. Sex had become more common, kids as soon as they hit puberty at 12-13 start talking about that and might even make out or some weird stuff. But this is because our sex education unfortunately while not really bad, is still kind of lacking, and because a lot of parent's don't control what they see in the internet at all, they can easily find porn, which is an awful way of learning. And even then most teenagers won't start having relations until they're 16, and even the only a few. Like, we're 30 in my class, we're around 17-18 years old, and like 10 at the most have lost their virginity. Of course this will change depending on the neighborhood, since mine is kind of average and maybe a bit on the better end of the spectrum, and there will be exceptions. But Jesus they really look like they've never been teens 💀 Sorry for the pointless rant, it's just that I wanted to explain my perspective as another teen 😅
i had to pause the vid to look in the comments if people thought of caitvi as well. my lesbians are cute they will never do anything cringe in my eyes. 😌
For anyone who doesn't get why student-teacher relationships are "still" taboo, frowned upon or a red flag if both parties are legal adults: it's about the imbalanced power dynamics of a teacher/professor with their student. The hierarchy puts one directly over the other at the school or even university. Which is made even worse by the youngness and/or impressionability of the person with less power (ie the student in this case). Being of legal age does not necessarily make a professor/teacher and student power dynamic suddenly okay. Especially when the younger and lower-ranked person is barely legal (ie just turned 18). As a 19 year old, let me say that 18 barely legal and there is not much difference in maturity and mindset as 17. Which is not a legal adult in most places. But *most importantly:* whether in high school or uni, being of legal age (18 in most places) _does not_ suddenly give you the same level of power as the professor/teacher if you are their student. It's still a risky power imbalance - being of legal age (and barely at that) does not balance it. You are still at a disadvantage, so to speak. This also happens in companies, which is why boss-employee relationships are also frowned upon or even not allowed in company rules because of the ethics - it's an unfair power dynamic, with the boss having way more power. The imbalance can be an HR nightmare even though most employees and bosses at established companies are legal adults. There is still a power imbalance, that's why it's a red flag. And like I said, the youngness and impressionability of the person with less power makes it even worse, because now it is not just the higher ups (teacher, professor, boss, etc.) holding professional/academic power over their head, but also way more life experience. And that is not to say that if you are young you are dumb, it's just that you will never be as experienced as someone who is 10, 15, 20 years older at the same time as them. And that _can_ be used to take advantage of you. And as a young adult, I always felt like I was too smart to be impressionable as a teen but I _was_ impressionable. And just because I turned 18 did not make me a different person as I was the day before at 17, or even the month before. So being legal (barely) does not make the unfair power suddenly balanced. Whether in high school or uni and no matter how independent you are, you are not at the same level as your teacher/professor when you are their student. The power is still imbalanced, with the lower-ranked person still at risk of being taken advantage of - even subconsciously/unconsciously by the higher ranked person, and then even between two consenting legal adults. It is still risky, and the lower-ranked and/or younger person being taken advantage of is very likely - again even if both consenting parties try to prevent it. It can still happen.
Sometimes we need to read from authors we don't really jive with to get that smack of reality. I would probably ask myself "what the hell am I doing?" then somehow put myself on reset and get on with my day. It's kind of like therapy, only cheaper.
"because if it's not socially acceptable to kiss your homies you just fight them in a dimly lit cellar" Well great, now I have to reanalyze all of the times I've fought my homies in dimly lit cellars.
Everyone has a troubled past/family. I couldn't help but make a tease at that trope in my first novel. The side characters revealing their tragic backstory while the MC just says "My family loves me, we get together almost every winter holiday. My parents paid for my college! Are you guys okay in the head?"
I am working on a fantasy series atm focusing on twins separated at birth. One of the twins is the principal of a prestigious academy for the supernaturally gifted. That twin and his students are damaged and come from messed up families whereas the other twin comes from a stable, living household with zero trauma. The contrast is hilarious😂
Hahah I've a friend like that. Sometimes, the rest of the friends' group trauma dump on each other on any given subject, and then he's like "Well, my parents love me, raised me well, and I love them. Yikes, I thought everyone came from such a family. I'm going to head out and call my mom..." 😂
These stories are so incredibly different from my highschool experience. That being said there were some scandals. There was a very recently graduated student that went on a date with one of the teachers at my school and he immediately lost his teaching license because they couldn't prove that they weren't doing anything while she was still a student. Not to mention he was already married to one of the other teachers...
Are you in Australia by chance? We just heard about a situation very similar to that. It was a PE teacher in our case. But yeah, crazy. And now there’s a mandatory 6-year period after graduating school for an ex-student to try and contact their ex-teacher and vice versa (which really bites when your teachers have actually been really chill and you just want to be friends with them and keep them in your life, but it’s definitely understandable).
@@SteampunkHorse Nah I'm Canadian. Yea that does suck. I had a few teachers that I got along with and spoke to them a bit after graduating. I'd hate to be the reason one of them lost their license. Unfortunately there's creeps everywhere. Guess it's better safe than sorry.
the way i screamed when you said elle kennedy wrote paper princess😭😭😭 that book alone is singlehandedly responsible for getting me into wattpad and trashy romance when i found it for $1.50 at an op shop in YEAR 7😭😭 i don’t think i’ll ever recover from the trauma of reading it at 11 and being like omg i want a reed and an easton when i’m 17 and then looking back at it years later like what the hell is this
but at the same time without that i never would have gotten into wattpad and books so much and probably never found your channel so i guess it all works out in the end
That reminds me I need to make more poetry just to someday do my goal of publishing a shitpost ass poetry book just to prove Amazon will publish literally anything
I literally finished watching your rant about Gothikana today and was hoping for something similar to watch. Then, like an angel sent from the heavens, this arrived! :D
Colleen Hoover in general was a bad choice. Bought "It Ends With Us" because Booktok kept on recommending it as an AMAZING romance book, but was extremely disappointed when there was barely any romance in there. I guess there was Atlas (the love interest that saves everything in the end, I liked that guy) but most of the book was just lust, smut and abuse. After I told my friend and she agreed with me, I found out online that a lot of people agree too. Turns out a lot of her other romance books suck too. Same concept: Abuse, Lust and Smut.
@@fyysha Colleen Hoover's book marketing hinges on lying to readers. For example, they're promoted as adult novels when the writing is the most childish thing ever. They're promoted as romances without any trigger warnings attached because she uses trauma as a shocking plot twist rather than plot points, and It Ends With Us was marketed as a romance so that they could slam you with the "oh wow it was actually ab use all along 😮😮😮" trope
Can you give me a summary of Confess please? I am curious because my crush loves Colleen Hoover stuff. I read It Ends With Us for his sake but just cannot bring myself to finish Ugly Love. I just wanna know what I am getting into before trying out more books by this author.
Elle Kennedy co-wrote some stuff with Sarina Bowen that I actually really liked, but now I'm wondering which parts of it were written by her, and which parts were written by the coauthor.
Wait, if the hacker dude was just gonna force his opponent to lose by threatening his bank account, why'd he bother training in the first place? (Yes this is the question I ask in this mess of a book for some reason.)
... As someone who has read this book, THAT IS SUCH A VALID QUESTION?!?! They have a lil fight, and then as RJ is losing he's like "Oh btw I stole your money lol". But he could've just. Saved himself some punches??? But it's a book, so concussions were never a danger anyway
How, why, this book. I relate to your friend really hard now. I miss the person I was before I heard about this book. It amazes me how people can write such highly problematic content and just publish it without seeing everything thats wrong with it.
Last time you read Gothikana and Tentacle Entanglement, I didn't want to miss out on the hate train so I read those before watching your videos. Hated them. Then watched ur video and was like, "Ditto! Such shitty books!" But this time, I've learnt my lesson. I will just watch your video and not read the cringe. 😊
Paper Princess is also on my most hated books of all time. I started reading it during lockdown and on discord with friends I was ranting about it for an hour
I like your channel for two main reasons: 1. your book reviews 2. the comments section I almost feel thankful there are such abysmal quality novels around to fuel both. 👍
I honestly enjoy reading Elle Kennedy books (I've read way way worse... intentionally...) but nearly every single one I've read had at least four or five things that made me go 😧
i can't believe i've just discovered that Paper Princess was written by Elle Kennedy. I see why she changed the pseudonym to write the Off-Campus series... I still remember how bad it was and i dnfed it YEARS ago. I'm sorry you didn't like it, but the video was so much fun! I read Misfit when it came out and was able to find entertaining how unrealitic and crazy everything was. I would have preferred seeing Larsson with Silas instead of the teachers but, oh, the drama 😂
Hi Leonie. Your book suggestions and videos have encouraged me a lot to come back to reading. Thank you so much. Also thank you for your great sacrifice of reading this book❤️😂
KKKK KINGAA!! tava esperando alguém falar o quão horrível esse livro é. Parece que a Elle Kennedy escreveu vários rascunhos pra livros diferentes, juntou todos, NÃO EDITOU e decidiu publicar.
ok, that's beside the topic of the video, but i just wanted to say that i've already watched 3 of your videos and let me tell you i've never clicked subscribe button so fast in my life. i want to become a writter myself and everything you say about these books is not only pleasant to watch but also help me improve my writing and motivates me to do so. so yeah, that''s pretty much it, please keep up your awesome work, stay healthy and have a nice day/night!! :D (i'm sorry for any mistakes, english isn't my first language) 💗💗
Rant reviews are just lowkey the best kind 😂 and to deep dive further into Elle Kennedy you should really read "Him" a gay/bisexual romance she wrote together with Sarina Bowen
I mean some scenarii are tailor made for bedroom roleplay between two consenting adults but that's it. The second someone tries to replicate it "for realz" there's a high risk someone will get arrested.
OMG I had to pause the video because you just mentioned the film Fight Club and the intrepretation people have of it (I'm no English native myself so excuse my synthaxe). Fight Club is one of my absolute favorite movies and NOBODY around me understands it. The simple fact that you said that sentence prove me that you get the deeper meaning (and layers) from this masterpiece and it spreads instant joy in my heart.
I'm cackling at the apology for the video being chaotic because I can't imagine any other way you could have delivered this book to us other than pure chaos 😭
I'm sure that you curating this experience down to only the most amusing and/or the most insane parts was better for us all-I appreciate the way you must have waded through the thick of it all to get those bits and make this video for us though, and I'm glad at least that it did in fact cure your reading slump so somehow it was not a total loss for you either. Mad respect! I can't subscribe because I enjoyed this video though, as I have already subscribed a long time ago by now; I hope you'll understand.😊 😁🤭🤭 😆🤣 💖💖💖 ^--^ Lol
I dnf this a Long time ago because something about the writing was so off and weird, I just didn’t feel like I was reading a romance now I’m glad I only read a few chapters 😂
Seeing as this was published, I got the final push I needed to publish my first fanfic 🤗 If people can accept this on paper, my writing will definitely never be one of the worst things someone has read on a screen ❤
The stalker part reminded me of a book I read awhile back, called the "The Obsession." It involved a boy who becomes obsessed with a girl and stalks her, hoping to date her. The twist is, the girl finds out and gets revenge on him. It is an amazing book, in my opinion, and very well read. I found it incredibly easy to connect to the main character. It does shift point of views, but it's definitely more of a thriller, and you may enjoy it, if you haven't read it already ^^
At the end, when you were talking about how you finished the book in 4 days, I remember I read a 300 something page book called how it went down, in only 5 days. I’m not sure if it was because it was a pov-style book, like switching people’s povs constantly and stuff, but I was proud of myself for reading quickly and also knowing the storyline well too.
Sloane wanting to sleep with him because of the character he crafted would not be informed consent... 😬 I don't know how some people thought this might be romantic. It's horrific!
In my early/mid-20s I was very bored and read a lot of books like this. Now that I'm older it makes me cringe that (mainly) women in their mid-30s , and sometimes older, are writing teenagers like this. It's very weird. Yeah "18 year olds are adults" but most of the time the characters are recently 18, so it's still weird and creepy.
EXACTLY. Its freaky how many works use older men to groom or manipulate young girls. I've heard people try to justify it as every girl has a crush on an older man so they're just playing out fantasies in books but that's really not how it works and I most definitely never had a crush on an older man as a teenager but I was reading dozens of books where that was the plot, so many that I thought it was normal until I was about 19. If books don't frame those relationships as forceful and coercive like they actually are you've got absurd numbers of teenage girls who think that's actually sexy and something to be proud of, as if they aren't victims and the men toxic
Okay but, was the audiobook read with a hard g or a soft g because a Rotterdam hard g would be SO funny to me during the whole spicy talk Lawson did with his English teacher
I think that's about the bixessual stereotype is so true in my country. A lot of peopple think that we kiss everyone and are unfaithful, but in truth we don't kiss no one, we are very insecure. LMAO
Being flattered by the hacker after he finds out all of this stuff to basically stalk and gaslight her just makes me think of: *”I can’t believe it guys, they made a sequel to Stockholm Syndrome.”* - Max0r, ‘Genshin Impact is a Playable Anime’
😂😂😂 I had to pause this as you sat to go into details 6:56 in because I just finished binging Fake Profile on Netflix, spent like 30 minutes explaining it to my mom because OMFG what did I just watch & you, with this book, is 💯 me with that show. ...and I think I have this book. Haven't read it yet, but always love your takes.
Having just got back from college and having had a (now ex) friend who was being really creepy and controlling seemingly with the intent that we became a thing, thank you for reading this book and pointing out that none of this stuff is normal.
This reminds me of someone who had a theory that "This character is just 18" is basically "They would be younger if it was legal"
.......................whoever said this was.....right...
Mostly yeah.
Truest realization!
Oh absolutely. 100%. It’s so fucking weird. Also, the amount of pornography titles that contain the phrase “barely legal teen”. Stop.
yes. the only reason they dont make student-teacher romances, with the student being 17 about to turn 18 or just being 18 is because if they were any younger it would be illegal.. legal doesnt make it right tho
I honestly don’t understand how books like this get thought of, written, published, and read by others.
@@raahimkhan6791 ?
@@raahimkhan6791?
I'm annoyed also. I'm sure if you do enough digging she'll either be related to someone in publishing, or rich.
@@raahimkhan6791
Book Reviewing is a valid profession.
@@raahimkhan6791 She is not praising the book, which should usually discourage people from reading it, so it's not "promoting it"
Does this bring more attention to the book? Yes, but it's not good attention
Tbh all the bizarre sexual fantasies and desires sound very realistic for teenagers... but IRL they simply never materialize and mostly stay in their heads.
can confirm as an 18 year old.
Fr, they're normal for teenagers but should definitely just stay as fantasies
Couldn't have said it better myself
Ik this is out of topic but wow you're active on this account for 12 years now
Right lol
“Either Elle Kennedy is writing what she, as an adult, thinks teenagers act like or I am learning some very dark things about the other teenagers in my high school.” That’s always my reaction too, Leonie. I’m aware I lived a sheltered life but sheesh, who were these teenagers???! Great video as always-have a great week!
Honestly, 90% of what she writes makes me think she's just a guy writing under a fake name because so much of it is stuff that chauvinistic teen age guys THINK that women want.
When I was 18 I was crying over almost failing math and mostly still watching Disney channel shows 😂
at least in my country, most MIDDLE SCHOOLERS drink, smoke weed and cigarettes, and use substances. its so weird.
Nah it's completely right. Over 50% of the kids at any given school in America are exactly like that, I should know I was one of them
When I was 18 I had my first kiss. That's all. Just one little kiss without tongue. I know there are teenagers who make experiences very early but like most of my friends have not. I'd say it's normal to be childish at 18 still
there’s nearly no difference in the maturity between 17 and 18 year olds, so the fact that the students are overage means basically nothing. they’re still in _highschool_ …
YES oh my god. Older people who actively go for 18 year olds are pedos. All of them. It’s horrific.
Tbh some 18 year Olds are done with highschool tho
@@momsspaghetti-sd9sn so? Still creepy af
i started college with 17. if you are 18y, being in hs or college, doesn't change anything. but yeah, it is still weird
@@franciscamarinheiro7080 you kind of bit your own tongue with that one. What’s exactly is weird about it?
Leo, there's nobody I'd rather buddyread a traumatizing book with than you ❤️. But I do still miss the person I was before this book because my GOD
this was an experience
My condolences to you both, but I agree, it’s always better to go through experiences with a friend so you both can rant together.
@@TheBookLeoyou’re my best friend I really like you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@TheBookLeoyou’re very pretty
The girl getting flattered by that hacker boy finding out where she lives gives major Edward and Bella vibes.
✨🐀
God the bisexual rep is amazing. Elle Kennedy knows that us bisexual will literally die if we don’t have sex with every person we come across especially if the person is married
Fr I feel so represented🥰😍✋
She loves us 🤭 (we don’t love her back)
she thinks we bisexuals will read and be like “literally me fr fr”
@@jellyen-fr fr. She probably think most of us are a getting more action than we actually are
We just sooo horny and undisciplined like that! Live laugh love!! 😻😻😻
Bringing inappropriate student teacher relationships to another level by involving 2 teachers 💀
I refuse to believe the author really thought in her head whilst forming the story’s plot “nah one teacher is not enough”
"I know I'm reading a romance book, but it feels like I'm reading a thriller" - Oh. Oh no. It's one of *those* books again.
@@star_jams4nekos”anything by Colleen Hoover”
Pov: Colleen Hoover books -
There's no law about what genres authors can or can't blend, y'know.
@@M.H.I.A.F.T. that's the point- these books aren't labeled right
Hi Leo, very sorry for what happened to you. But thank you for giving us all a warning, your sacrifice will not be forgotten.
F in the chat for Leo
I'm very glad that when I was in high school sex hadn't been invented yet, so I didn't have to deal with anything like this.
Are you joking?
@@saturn6563 Are you?
@@saturn6563duh
@saturn6563 no, sex wasn't invented until a few years ago.
@@OtakuTemmie How do you guys think you were made, your parents were made, your grandparents were made, and so on? Maybe it wasn’t for pleasure, but there definitely was some digging involved..
Honestly, if this wasn't a teacher student romance, the Lawson plotline would genuinely be so hilarious, cause it's like that audio, "It ain't homewrecking if you sleep with both of them" 😅
It reminds me of this tweet I've seen of a dude who was drunk and kissed this girl but then he didn't want her boyfriend to be made so he kissed him too. The main dude then woke the next day in a group chat and two of them sent him a 'did you get home safe babe♥️'
PLZ if yall find it direct it to me 🙏 that sounds hilarious
@@Sa_mageste_le_roi”oh, I guess I’m in a throuple now”
@@Sa_mageste_le_roi
Idk sleeping with someone super drunk is kinda predatory.
@@justalostlocal I agree, I just thought the post was funny and the guy just said they kissed
Could it be that we are witnessing the rise of Riverdale-inspired books?
It reminded me more of Gossip Girl tbh. At least the "private school full of rich kids having sex and doing drugs BUT our main charachter is this one outsider that's somehow also in this school".
it reminded me of the game bully and heathers blended in the most godawful way that they could be blended
I had to think first of 'Gossip Girl' too and then it mixed with the netflix series 'You' along the way😅
Or Elite!
Oh god please no
As soon as I read “teacher student threesome” in the thumbnail I was like “OK are we talking two students, one teacher, or two teachers, one student. Because both are bad but one is worse.”😅
not it being the latter 😭
Definitely sounds like a case where the adults should have known better than to have a threesome with a student
Reading the book itself to find that out had made me go outside to reconnect to nature😂💀💀
Yeah Elle Kennedy is all around awful 😭she fetishises sapphic relationships in her series yet writes mlm romance, while also writing very stereotypical harmful rep in other situations (plus sized rep, poc etc.) and the fact that SA was included so that Garrett could 'fix' her magically is so bizarre. And ofc, like you mentioned, the misogyny is very apparent. This book sounds like a mess too.
its like collen hover but mixed with bad at being progressive
what's wrong with Sapphic relationships?
@@maryk3850 nothing is! But the problem comes from Sapphic relationships being fetishized
@@ABrightCookie how does she fetishizes Sapphic relationships? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious to what she has done?
@@violetiolite no fucking clue honestly I'm just explaining how saying that fetishizing Sapphic relationships is bad isn't the same as saying Sapphic relationships are bad but as for the author I can't say much 💀
As a bisexual it is a bit frustrating that books and other media are still spreading those kinds of stereotypes about us
indeed. it's very annoying
bro fr like leave us alone
frrr
Ikr leave us alone
Crazy Ex Girlfriend is the only media I know that has good bisexual rep that doesn't lean on the stereotypes. Also the catchiest bi song of all time
EXCUSE ME "Cupcake" is the pet name Violet gave to Kaitlyn in Arcane, AND ITS CUTE OKAY
they are the exception!
It's more the nickname in combination with the horrible writing around it, that makes it even cringier.
that was the first thing i thought of haha
i came here to make this exact compliment glad to see someone beat me to it 😆
When she just casually called her "cupcake", My neighbors had probably woke up to my high pitch scream While I threw myself on my bed at that moment.
stay still my shipping heart..
My fiance and I write highly problematic smut to each other due to being long distance. We both acknowledge it as incredible shit. We always get a good laugh out of people saying "yeah I will publish this shit and see nothing wrong with it".
That's kind of hilarious lmao
This is the kinda relationship I wanna have :D
We don't. We'd much prefer being geographically together AND writing smut.
@@nope7879 😑
This is a mood. We live together but do the same thing, hiiiiighly problematic smut back and forth all day longgg.
I'm sorry I'm still reeling from Paper Princess. How....HOW is this woman published, and who is her publisher so I can submit bc clearly they allow everything.
Isn’t paper princess by Erin watt?
@@krishaashah6219 Erin watt is a pseudonym
That book… was by far the most horrid thing I’ve read 😂😂😂
Because of books and series like this in my country we have a joke "American high schooler" which means a person who does crazy things like this while being a teenager. We know that it's not a common thing in real life but its really funny
fr
Where do you live?
As a cyber sec guy, I must say that it's hilarious how people imagine what hacking really is and how it really works. They just add "I'm hacker, of course I hacked you." like it's just a normal sunday, and he hacked 10 different companies before getting out of bed.
I have no computer expertise, so correct me if I'm wrong- but isn't most hacking just like a game of chess? Like you try to find a way into their defenses, you wait for their security to retaliate, you do it again, etc. etc?
Also this is the same way I felt after watching Euphoria and Elite
Like what are these teenagers doing 😂
Same😅
Nah this stuff does happen sadly.. I’ve seen it with my own eyes (I’m a teen)
@@loltrol3920 it does but Hollywood and YA fiction make it seem like most if not all teens are like this. Which is false plus it gets tiresome seeing the same toxic tropes over and over again.
@@anica2112 I can’t disagree with that! Most of us are deff not like that, it’s a little weird how many shows are out about it
@@loltrol3920 It happens, but they make it seem like it's a really common occurrence.
At least in my country (where Elite was made so this is context from Spain), teenagers start sneaking out to drink at around 14-15, but most of them will do it occasionally, if at all. You can see people as young as thirteen smoking but statistics have shown that at least in my country there are less teenagers smoking than others generations before.
As for other substances, weed is the most common and strongest thing someone will have, but depending on the person most people will have it occasionally.
And all these habits tend to stop after Secundary school of college, because in a way they work as a form of rebellion and growth for those who do it, so when they grow up, they just don't see the point anymore.
Sex had become more common, kids as soon as they hit puberty at 12-13 start talking about that and might even make out or some weird stuff. But this is because our sex education unfortunately while not really bad, is still kind of lacking, and because a lot of parent's don't control what they see in the internet at all, they can easily find porn, which is an awful way of learning.
And even then most teenagers won't start having relations until they're 16, and even the only a few. Like, we're 30 in my class, we're around 17-18 years old, and like 10 at the most have lost their virginity.
Of course this will change depending on the neighborhood, since mine is kind of average and maybe a bit on the better end of the spectrum, and there will be exceptions.
But Jesus they really look like they've never been teens 💀
Sorry for the pointless rant, it's just that I wanted to explain my perspective as another teen 😅
Sigh... I guess I HAVE to stop writing my book for now. I mean, you uploaded. What else am I supposed to do?
I was just in the middle of writing as well. But if Leonie uploads, I guess there’s nothing else to do except stop whatever you’re doing 😄
Sorry, but my with Caitlyn and Vi obsessed brain can not be mad at someone for using the nickname cupcake.
Relatable 😔😔😔
Same 😞
my exact thought process
i had to pause the vid to look in the comments if people thought of caitvi as well. my lesbians are cute they will never do anything cringe in my eyes. 😌
True
This reminds me a lot of "Gossip Girl" and the fealing of shock when i found out characters are around 16 at the start
For anyone who doesn't get why student-teacher relationships are "still" taboo, frowned upon or a red flag if both parties are legal adults: it's about the imbalanced power dynamics of a teacher/professor with their student. The hierarchy puts one directly over the other at the school or even university. Which is made even worse by the youngness and/or impressionability of the person with less power (ie the student in this case). Being of legal age does not necessarily make a professor/teacher and student power dynamic suddenly okay. Especially when the younger and lower-ranked person is barely legal (ie just turned 18).
As a 19 year old, let me say that 18 barely legal and there is not much difference in maturity and mindset as 17. Which is not a legal adult in most places. But *most importantly:* whether in high school or uni, being of legal age (18 in most places) _does not_ suddenly give you the same level of power as the professor/teacher if you are their student. It's still a risky power imbalance - being of legal age (and barely at that) does not balance it. You are still at a disadvantage, so to speak. This also happens in companies, which is why boss-employee relationships are also frowned upon or even not allowed in company rules because of the ethics - it's an unfair power dynamic, with the boss having way more power. The imbalance can be an HR nightmare even though most employees and bosses at established companies are legal adults. There is still a power imbalance, that's why it's a red flag. And like I said, the youngness and impressionability of the person with less power makes it even worse, because now it is not just the higher ups (teacher, professor, boss, etc.) holding professional/academic power over their head, but also way more life experience. And that is not to say that if you are young you are dumb, it's just that you will never be as experienced as someone who is 10, 15, 20 years older at the same time as them. And that _can_ be used to take advantage of you. And as a young adult, I always felt like I was too smart to be impressionable as a teen but I _was_ impressionable. And just because I turned 18 did not make me a different person as I was the day before at 17, or even the month before. So being legal (barely) does not make the unfair power suddenly balanced. Whether in high school or uni and no matter how independent you are, you are not at the same level as your teacher/professor when you are their student. The power is still imbalanced, with the lower-ranked person still at risk of being taken advantage of - even subconsciously/unconsciously by the higher ranked person, and then even between two consenting legal adults. It is still risky, and the lower-ranked and/or younger person being taken advantage of is very likely - again even if both consenting parties try to prevent it. It can still happen.
Really thanks ❤
the only person allowed to use "cupcake" as a pet-name is our queen Vi, and no one else 😠
I know this is a joke but I personally love the pet-name "cupcakke" as long as it's not used by a creep
Sometimes we need to read from authors we don't really jive with to get that smack of reality. I would probably ask myself "what the hell am I doing?" then somehow put myself on reset and get on with my day. It's kind of like therapy, only cheaper.
"because if it's not socially acceptable to kiss your homies you just fight them in a dimly lit cellar"
Well great, now I have to reanalyze all of the times I've fought my homies in dimly lit cellars.
Everyone has a troubled past/family.
I couldn't help but make a tease at that trope in my first novel. The side characters revealing their tragic backstory while the MC just says "My family loves me, we get together almost every winter holiday. My parents paid for my college! Are you guys okay in the head?"
I am working on a fantasy series atm focusing on twins separated at birth. One of the twins is the principal of a prestigious academy for the supernaturally gifted. That twin and his students are damaged and come from messed up families whereas the other twin comes from a stable, living household with zero trauma. The contrast is hilarious😂
@@anica2112 hands down one of my top favorite tropes right here
@@morleywritesbooks mine as well!
@@anica2112 we may have just now become star-crossed best-friends
Hahah I've a friend like that. Sometimes, the rest of the friends' group trauma dump on each other on any given subject, and then he's like "Well, my parents love me, raised me well, and I love them. Yikes, I thought everyone came from such a family. I'm going to head out and call my mom..." 😂
These stories are so incredibly different from my highschool experience. That being said there were some scandals. There was a very recently graduated student that went on a date with one of the teachers at my school and he immediately lost his teaching license because they couldn't prove that they weren't doing anything while she was still a student. Not to mention he was already married to one of the other teachers...
Are you in Australia by chance? We just heard about a situation very similar to that. It was a PE teacher in our case. But yeah, crazy. And now there’s a mandatory 6-year period after graduating school for an ex-student to try and contact their ex-teacher and vice versa (which really bites when your teachers have actually been really chill and you just want to be friends with them and keep them in your life, but it’s definitely understandable).
@@SteampunkHorse Nah I'm Canadian. Yea that does suck. I had a few teachers that I got along with and spoke to them a bit after graduating. I'd hate to be the reason one of them lost their license. Unfortunately there's creeps everywhere. Guess it's better safe than sorry.
I'm already not a fan of Elle Kennedy so the moment I saw who the author was I settled in for a good hate fest 😂🎉
the way i screamed when you said elle kennedy wrote paper princess😭😭😭 that book alone is singlehandedly responsible for getting me into wattpad and trashy romance when i found it for $1.50 at an op shop in YEAR 7😭😭 i don’t think i’ll ever recover from the trauma of reading it at 11 and being like omg i want a reed and an easton when i’m 17 and then looking back at it years later like what the hell is this
but at the same time without that i never would have gotten into wattpad and books so much and probably never found your channel so i guess it all works out in the end
oh lord no. knowing it's a teacher-student romance, and then hearing you say "it takes place in highschool" was already my first chest pain moment
cupcake is only allowed as a pet name if it is used by vi from arcane
Like there are so many talented writers who to this day who are struggling to get published and then there are these writers...
That reminds me I need to make more poetry just to someday do my goal of publishing a shitpost ass poetry book just to prove Amazon will publish literally anything
I saw the disgusted face at 1:03 and that's when I knew this would be another hilarious and memorable book-roast video. Loved it!
i am obsessed and have already downloaded the ebook from the library. this mess must be in my life.
you are going to have a horrible fantastic time
Well?
This is an example of "just because it's legal doesn't mean it's moral"
I literally finished watching your rant about Gothikana today and was hoping for something similar to watch. Then, like an angel sent from the heavens, this arrived! :D
Haha same 😭
REAL
The way she suffered the whole book for us😭😭
Such an angel❤️
This week i picked up my first book by Colleen Hoover called "Confess"
IT WAS LITTERLY THE WORST BOOK I EVER READ AND NOW IM IN A READING SLUMP 😭😭
Read the right move by Liz Tomforde
Colleen Hoover in general was a bad choice. Bought "It Ends With Us" because Booktok kept on recommending it as an AMAZING romance book, but was extremely disappointed when there was barely any romance in there. I guess there was Atlas (the love interest that saves everything in the end, I liked that guy) but most of the book was just lust, smut and abuse. After I told my friend and she agreed with me, I found out online that a lot of people agree too. Turns out a lot of her other romance books suck too. Same concept: Abuse, Lust and Smut.
@@fyysha Colleen Hoover's book marketing hinges on lying to readers. For example, they're promoted as adult novels when the writing is the most childish thing ever. They're promoted as romances without any trigger warnings attached because she uses trauma as a shocking plot twist rather than plot points, and It Ends With Us was marketed as a romance so that they could slam you with the "oh wow it was actually ab use all along 😮😮😮" trope
@@fyysha I love Atlas too but even then he did the fucked up thing of sleeping with a minor (Lily on her 16th bday)
Can you give me a summary of Confess please? I am curious because my crush loves Colleen Hoover stuff. I read It Ends With Us for his sake but just cannot bring myself to finish Ugly Love. I just wanna know what I am getting into before trying out more books by this author.
This sounds like something Netflix would base a series on.
When you said "worst book this year so far" I was like, "so far," right cause it's like 3 months into the ye- oh shit nope we're halfway through.
Elle Kennedy co-wrote some stuff with Sarina Bowen that I actually really liked, but now I'm wondering which parts of it were written by her, and which parts were written by the coauthor.
can confirm as a bisexual that I can't have sex if I'm not being a homewrecker
i dont understand how its legal to write and publish spicy books about HIGHSCHOOLERS
More reading vlogs please please please 🙏🏼🧡 your vlogs are so aesthetic and beautiful 🥰
Yes please!
you can find my reading vlogs on my second channel @leoniechristel !
I'm convinced Lawson's arc was written as a backup in the book in case people weren't invested in the main story lol
Wait, if the hacker dude was just gonna force his opponent to lose by threatening his bank account, why'd he bother training in the first place?
(Yes this is the question I ask in this mess of a book for some reason.)
... As someone who has read this book, THAT IS SUCH A VALID QUESTION?!?! They have a lil fight, and then as RJ is losing he's like "Oh btw I stole your money lol". But he could've just. Saved himself some punches??? But it's a book, so concussions were never a danger anyway
@@elineallthefeels9906 Glad to hear the question is at least valid! XD Thanks for responding~
How, why, this book. I relate to your friend really hard now. I miss the person I was before I heard about this book. It amazes me how people can write such highly problematic content and just publish it without seeing everything thats wrong with it.
Last time you read Gothikana and Tentacle Entanglement, I didn't want to miss out on the hate train so I read those before watching your videos. Hated them. Then watched ur video and was like, "Ditto! Such shitty books!"
But this time, I've learnt my lesson. I will just watch your video and not read the cringe. 😊
😂😂😂 your comment made my day
I pick it up Gothikana just for her review, I want it to hate on it too 😂
The fetishization of minors and lgbtq+ is a psoriasis rash that keeps reappearing and I'm so sick of it
Paper Princess is also on my most hated books of all time. I started reading it during lockdown and on discord with friends I was ranting about it for an hour
I like your channel for two main reasons:
1. your book reviews
2. the comments section
I almost feel thankful there are such abysmal quality novels around to fuel both. 👍
I honestly enjoy reading Elle Kennedy books (I've read way way worse... intentionally...) but nearly every single one I've read had at least four or five things that made me go 😧
i can't believe i've just discovered that Paper Princess was written by Elle Kennedy. I see why she changed the pseudonym to write the Off-Campus series... I still remember how bad it was and i dnfed it YEARS ago. I'm sorry you didn't like it, but the video was so much fun! I read Misfit when it came out and was able to find entertaining how unrealitic and crazy everything was. I would have preferred seeing Larsson with Silas instead of the teachers but, oh, the drama 😂
she wrote paper princess together with another author, that's why it's under a pen name!
@@TheBookLeo ohh that makes sense! Thank you so much for explaining
"I Know i'm reading a romance book, but it feels like I'm reading a thriller."
Hi Leonie. Your book suggestions and videos have encouraged me a lot to come back to reading. Thank you so much. Also thank you for your great sacrifice of reading this book❤️😂
KKKK KINGAA!! tava esperando alguém falar o quão horrível esse livro é. Parece que a Elle Kennedy escreveu vários rascunhos pra livros diferentes, juntou todos, NÃO EDITOU e decidiu publicar.
Você conseguiu terminar? Nossa
ok, that's beside the topic of the video, but i just wanted to say that i've already watched 3 of your videos and let me tell you i've never clicked subscribe button so fast in my life. i want to become a writter myself and everything you say about these books is not only pleasant to watch but also help me improve my writing and motivates me to do so. so yeah, that''s pretty much it, please keep up your awesome work, stay healthy and have a nice day/night!! :D (i'm sorry for any mistakes, english isn't my first language) 💗💗
I'm glad I found this channel. I watch it while I write my own books. Much love to you
Rant reviews are just lowkey the best kind 😂 and to deep dive further into Elle Kennedy you should really read "Him" a gay/bisexual romance she wrote together with Sarina Bowen
Your commentary on these silly books is sooo entertaining and funny 😂
the thing is that some romances are forbidden for a reason and they should stay that way lol
I mean some scenarii are tailor made for bedroom roleplay between two consenting adults but that's it. The second someone tries to replicate it "for realz" there's a high risk someone will get arrested.
i just realize that cactus cushion looks so good, i want that
The only instance where "cupcake" is an acceptable pet name is in Arcane, try and change my mind ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
OMG I had to pause the video because you just mentioned the film Fight Club and the intrepretation people have of it (I'm no English native myself so excuse my synthaxe). Fight Club is one of my absolute favorite movies and NOBODY around me understands it. The simple fact that you said that sentence prove me that you get the deeper meaning (and layers) from this masterpiece and it spreads instant joy in my heart.
Going from RJ's goals to Sloane's was whiplash, real 'Duel of The Fates' vibe from that brewing conflict.
I'm cackling at the apology for the video being chaotic because I can't imagine any other way you could have delivered this book to us other than pure chaos 😭
I'm sure that you curating this experience down to only the most amusing and/or the most insane parts was better for us all-I appreciate the way you must have waded through the thick of it all to get those bits and make this video for us though, and I'm glad at least that it did in fact cure your reading slump so somehow it was not a total loss for you either. Mad respect! I can't subscribe because I enjoyed this video though, as I have already subscribed a long time ago by now; I hope you'll understand.😊 😁🤭🤭 😆🤣 💖💖💖 ^--^ Lol
I need a book friend like you😭 thanks for being our youtube book friend!
I dnf this a Long time ago because something about the writing was so off and weird, I just didn’t feel like I was reading a romance now I’m glad I only read a few chapters 😂
"They all come from troubled families..because of course they do." This line delivery 😂
Seeing as this was published, I got the final push I needed to publish my first fanfic 🤗 If people can accept this on paper, my writing will definitely never be one of the worst things someone has read on a screen ❤
R.I.P Leo's sanity after reading the book, as well as everyone else's sanity after watching this video.
(Anyone wanna pay for therapy?)
The stalker part reminded me of a book I read awhile back, called the "The Obsession." It involved a boy who becomes obsessed with a girl and stalks her, hoping to date her. The twist is, the girl finds out and gets revenge on him. It is an amazing book, in my opinion, and very well read. I found it incredibly easy to connect to the main character. It does shift point of views, but it's definitely more of a thriller, and you may enjoy it, if you haven't read it already ^^
I tripped, fell, and read an entire novel. It was an accident. I swear!
17:31 that "Good morning" conveyed so much emotion I swear xD
But, okay, the way you told it I was super invested in Lawson's story.... but then it just ended. Thank you for reading this so I never have to.
These book reviews you do make me feel pretty confident that I could write a book that at least someone would buy.
absolutely devastated that I bought this book and it’s taking up space in my apartment :,(
Use it for fire kindling when winter comes
Paper planes?
At the end, when you were talking about how you finished the book in 4 days, I remember I read a 300 something page book called how it went down, in only 5 days. I’m not sure if it was because it was a pov-style book, like switching people’s povs constantly and stuff, but I was proud of myself for reading quickly and also knowing the storyline well too.
this book sounds like something I would've read on wattpad back in the day ... 😬
the way leonie talks abt these books is so funny asdffjj thank you
Sloane wanting to sleep with him because of the character he crafted would not be informed consent... 😬 I don't know how some people thought this might be romantic. It's horrific!
In my early/mid-20s I was very bored and read a lot of books like this. Now that I'm older it makes me cringe that (mainly) women in their mid-30s , and sometimes older, are writing teenagers like this. It's very weird. Yeah "18 year olds are adults" but most of the time the characters are recently 18, so it's still weird and creepy.
EXACTLY. Its freaky how many works use older men to groom or manipulate young girls. I've heard people try to justify it as every girl has a crush on an older man so they're just playing out fantasies in books but that's really not how it works and I most definitely never had a crush on an older man as a teenager but I was reading dozens of books where that was the plot, so many that I thought it was normal until I was about 19. If books don't frame those relationships as forceful and coercive like they actually are you've got absurd numbers of teenage girls who think that's actually sexy and something to be proud of, as if they aren't victims and the men toxic
This was so funny, I love when you read problematic books to us! 😂 keep being awesome!
"He learned nothing, he's still hacking" is such a hilarious statement in any review lmao
That goes hard
Okay but, was the audiobook read with a hard g or a soft g because a Rotterdam hard g would be SO funny to me during the whole spicy talk Lawson did with his English teacher
I lived in The Netherlands for a bit as a kid and learned a tiny bit of Dutch, and yup, it'd be SO hard to flirt like that
lawson nailed it bruh!! Bro bamboozled both of em
10:56 her facial expression right here summarizes this whooooole book 🥲
Videos like these are good for me. Seeing this makes me have greater confidence in my book. 🙂
Same here brother. Much luck to you :)
I think that's about the bixessual stereotype is so true in my country. A lot of peopple think that we kiss everyone and are unfaithful, but in truth we don't kiss no one, we are very insecure. LMAO
I'm so envious that you have friends to buddy read with. I would love to do that but I don't have anyone around me that would
Being flattered by the hacker after he finds out all of this stuff to basically stalk and gaslight her just makes me think of:
*”I can’t believe it guys, they made a sequel to Stockholm Syndrome.”* - Max0r, ‘Genshin Impact is a Playable Anime’
Love your reviews and the subtle art of Roasting
😂😂😂 I had to pause this as you sat to go into details 6:56 in because I just finished binging Fake Profile on Netflix, spent like 30 minutes explaining it to my mom because OMFG what did I just watch & you, with this book, is 💯 me with that show. ...and I think I have this book. Haven't read it yet, but always love your takes.
Having just got back from college and having had a (now ex) friend who was being really creepy and controlling seemingly with the intent that we became a thing, thank you for reading this book and pointing out that none of this stuff is normal.