Tom Murosky & Switched To Linux: Misinformation, Hate, & Sadness
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Let me introduce you to Tom Murosky, a Linux content creator with multiple channels, the most popular being Switched to Linux. He's been on UA-cam for years, uncontested in his misinformation about open source, hate of queer individuals, and misrepresenting Christians-until today.
Murosky only cares about injecting his political views into all of his content and has attempted (unsuccessfully) various ways to take down my content, including through Proton, UA-cam flagging, and attempting to leverage his influence to rally creators by his side. His community is blatantly transphobic, homophobic, and adheres to extremist right-wing content and Christian nationalism. There is no negotiating with this man.
All proceeds of this video will be donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation. They fight for your digital civil liberties and for your rights. supporters.eff.org/donate/joi...
Shout out to @niccoloveslinux , who helped give much of this video direction and organization and to @TechHut for describing his experience.
A special thanks to my Christian friends who have helped a great deal in the theological aspects, the resources, as well as physical Bibles and commentaries. Check out @PrestonSprinkleRaw for information about how churches respond to queer communities. He has the Murosky Stamp of Approval™ after all!
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0:00 Who is Tom Murosky?
3:20 Terrible Tech Takes
11:16 The Weekly """News""" Roundup
17:48 The Hate Machine
26:17 For the Bible Tells Me So
29:46 How do Christians respond to queer identity?
36:15 The Villain Back Story
39:39 The Credits Lie...
41:36 Murosky's Sneaky Behavior
44:18 Don't Give Me Money - Наука та технологія
All STL viewers who dissent will be banned. I've watched enough videos to recognize you guys and I've seen his Matrix.
I've never heard of you or STL until just now, but the fact that you would put out a hitpiece and then threaten to ban dissenting users does not inspire confidence in your statements regardless of factuality or accuracy. It's like you're trying to hide counter-claims that might have merit because they're inconvenient to your story. In a youtube dramascape that has experienced both iilluminaughtii and MamaMax, you are hurting your own credibility.
you disliked debian because "its too old", you also disliked DT, now STL ... not really having enough ideas to make videos eh? now i am thinking you are damaging the linux community by further fracturing it. Totally disappointing 👎
@@13thravenpurple94boo-hoo, people have opinions and can express them online and can take accountability for them 😢😢😢 what a shocker
i would not ban STL fanboys, that makes you just as bad as him due to "if you are a STL fanboy, youre banned".
@@Wampa842 indeed, and dont forget that wierdo SSwolf.
All this linux community beef with only 3% of the market, imagine when it reaches 10%!
@@hina-chanOwO it has been for quite a while, just like any other community or platform.
People who SHOUT when trying to deliver information, display a lack of control, they feel a Brute Force attack is the only solution, to covey authority on a topic. The line "I'll be Back" is so memorable because of how softly it was spoken.
I came from Windows to Linux,So I can listen to more bullshit
The "worst feature" of Linux is it's Community.
I love the picture of your avatar. So beautiful face.
nono, its the best feature:]
except for the catgirls :3
No, its that it attracts edgy people and these sometimes are bad.
41:47 For full clarity I never got an email so he clearly couldn't find it
The fact he never did find it is really funny. Speaks for his knowledge of technology.
@@Trafotin if you haven't seen it yet, you need to watch his reply
@@BrodieRobertson His reply did exactly what I predicted, including the notepad in the photo.
@@AceOfBased lol why? Brodie didn't even take a side in this
I highly appreciate your decision to stand up and speak out in a respectful way on what you perceive as wrong or dangerous behavior. I think you chose to stand up to bullying behavior and you better find a good and strong footing to deal with that. You got a strong thumbs-up from me for this! All the best, thank you and keep up your good work, I like this channel of yours!
What did you do with the thousands of dollars you got from Big Wayland to make this video?
What do you call that, maybe a bait-switched false flag attack? This point has been addressed...
I'm an atheist, but I'd say the "love the others" part can be tricky. You take it as meaning that the christian person should accept others instead of condemning them. But in reality if we really care about someone we tend to contradict them if whatever it is they do isn't coherent with our own understanding of what is "right". We don't just accept everything. For instance, a father that always accept whatever his son does would be considered a bad father, someone who just doesn't care about his son. And who, being capable of foreseeing the consequences, would let his best friend ruin his life with bad decisions? Sometimes love can be indistinguishable from hate. Think about all those teenagers who get mad at their parents when contradicted or prohibited of doing something, they angrily scream things like "you don't care about me".
I'm not saying the guy you criticized in the video loves queer people. What I'm saying is: as long as another person has a different point of view of what is "right" and your behavior doesn't fit with his view, he will criticize and contradict you, that is, provided he loves you enough (maybe also if he loves someone else enough and he doesn't want your "bad" behavior encouraging his beloved ones). And given that people usually do have different opinions of what is "right", and they commonly love one or more other people, we can expect that the act of criticizing/condemning other people behavior will never cease to exist. We all judge the others by our own books.
Good post.
I remember the time STL got furious of DT. DT quoted an article about linux mint being dead, and he ranted in rage about it.
@@AceOfBased So what? I'm just agreeing with him being hateful and sad.
This is the first time I've even heard of Murosky. Fortunately it will be the last... I hope.
Someone needed to speak about it, truly respect for you standing up, subscribed
Why would I want to use a package that isn't tested by my distro?
Because some distros are really out of date (Debian, Ubuntu, etc). You need to use a Flatpak (or Snap) because that's the direction the world is going in. Very rarely does a maintainer actually help package for a distro. Chromium became a Snap because Debian was really bad at updating it for years (still is). LibreOffice became a Flatpak on RHEL distros because packaging was wasting too much developer time. Consider the official package from the maintainer first. Most distro packages are completely unofficial because they may have been built differently or introduce unforeseen problems. See OBS on Arch and Bottles on Fedora on what NOT to do.
@@Trafotin Most of the time I'm ok with source installs and containers for that, tbf.
@@Trafotin One strange thing I noticed about OBS on Fedora 39 was that the Flatpak version used way more CPU than the repo version did, both being the same OBS version once Fedora updated the package in the repo.
("I'm more qualified to talk about the science, than I am to talk about Linux.") ... from someone running a UA-cam channel about Linux... THANK YOU, Trafotin, for making this video. I DO so want to know where MISinformation comes from, to better avoid it...
😢 its sad to see the Linux community fell down like this I hope you understand that trafotin
im glad it did brother. more beef is more protein for me.
@@user-oz5yk9bm5c and that Linux beef is going to be hard to diegist after our lovely friend Trafy begins to into a half paranoid chad
"Alphabet Mafia" goes hard, I'm taking it
Also, Amen
Amen
36:05 Amem Brother.
Focusing on just his Linux content. Not a single support of switched to Linux mentions his paranoia mentality of misinformation he spreads. If you took his advice, you would still be struggling to adopt modern Linux workflows. If anything he showcases how terrible of a experience mint would be.
Just like EVERYTHING will be a terrible experience, if you don't know the tricks of the distro, and if you refuse to try to make it work anyway. Linux thrives on alternate methods to do anything. It's too bad STL forgets that part of the Linux equation is the superuser and user...
The EFF has done good things in the past but they have more recently supported a harrasment website (under the guise of "free speech") that went after minorities and didn't like that Cloudflare kicked them off. Before that they also defended NFT's for some weird reason. I can promise there are Christians (like me) that support the LGBT+ community and would like to see them have donations, they need a lot of financial help.
The complicated part is (part of their argument) Cloudflare owns at least 25% of the entire internet. The reason they have pushed for complete free speech in platform holders is both the EFF and Cloudflare are aware of the precedent that would be set if they followed through (see what they did to alt-right websites or imageboards, Substack employs a similar policy). When it comes to Joe schmoes like you and me, that's different. Realistically, we don't carry that same weight and they try to distinguish between platform holders and individuals. STL has problems, but his issues don't have much to do with freedom of speech.
On the financially supporting the LGBT+ community, I did read from a few Christian-adjacent organizations, but they do not endorse marriage or sex changes. I don't know what your faith background is, but the majority view would likely contend with giving money to a queer charity. I linked the books in the blog post. Thank you for the comment and hope it helps.
wait until you learn about Luke Smith's political beliefs 🤯🤯🤯
I flagged at least two of his videos for antisemitism, I think UA-cam took them down.
@@chrystals.4376 i'm pretty sure he's not anti semitic lol
I'm pretty sure he no longer makes videos. I really enjoyed his tutorials, but I had to stop once I saw the live stream where he said he wanted America to turn into a bunch of mini countries divided by race and religion.
@@onldhes bro when does he say that?? Like which livestream?
@@chrystals.4376 You are a liar, and he isn't anti-semitic.
Bro Alot of people Don't like Wayland at this point in development, Personally I don't use it yet and I hate Flatpack and Sanp but maybe I'm old school I like the .deb or .rpm Ill even take .appimg But its a personal preference at this point.
Provide a real usecase or technical reason why you cannot use Wayland. Complaining in a comment does nothing for anyone and I will be willing to listen to your argument then. Why do you hate Flatpaks and Snaps? The reality is that's where developers are going and eventually users will be forced to capitulate.
@@hina-chanOwO You got me. My biggest complaint about Wayland is there is no lightweight DE for the normal guy. Wayfire might be the taker as MATE has adopted it, but that's far off. Budgie is doing Magpie and probably just as ambitious of a change. Plus Cosmic from System76.
I watch neither Traf nor STL on the regular, I actually came here from Nicco's recent shoutout and this is the first video I'm watching.
That all said, something I feel that should be brought up more about the (let's be kind and say) dissent toward openSUSE and elementaryOS's respective beliefs is the idea that one could fork the respective codebases and make your own "apolitical" derivative distro. Linux, and by extension FOSS in general, is arguably the epitome of "having your own cake and eating it too". There's a reason Sneedacity exists, regardless of what you think of the motivation regarding its existence.
That said, I'm probably gonna see what elementary OS 8 is like once that's available for end-users.
Sneedacity is a joke because it never received an update since the initial release. The problem with these forks like these is they are just protest forks. That's why Mint's devs are so slow to respond to meaningful change--they are too busy protesting Canonical's latest shenanigans. I use GrapheneOS, but I acknowledge their moderation is terrible and their main dev is (ironically) insecure enough to attack others. Hyprland is fine too despite its similar controversies to STL, but the thing that worries me more is Vaaxry still makes the majority of commits and where would the project be if he wasn't around? I think I justify those in my head is both GrapheneOS and Hyprland provide something to the world that genuinely helps people; STL does too rarely. However, GrapheneOS/Hyprland will never single you out specifically nor can their software target you for harm; the problem is STL can and does. Software protesting rarely works, we've seen it time and time again, so it's better in my mind to make people aware. Long response, but I hope it helped.
@@Trafotin Fair enough. Only reason I brought it up was that it is at least an option, even if being done in protest makes its fate inevitable. Plus, it could make a nice litmus test in that they could do more than just complain about "the gays and transes ruining Linux" or whatever -- not just in the fork itself, but whether or not they'd actually maintain it. Still, given the track record of "apolitical" vs "political" forks lean towards the latter being more maintained (thinking about Prism Launcher as a particular example), I see your point and I concede... for lack of a better term. 😅
Also, since you brought up Hyprland, we're probably gonna find out the answer to that question if Vaaxry's recent call-to-action post foreshadows anything...
@@HUNT3RdotME On Prism Launcher, it's not so much a protest fork as much as it was the lead dev of PolyMC kicked everyone out of the project. The only way to continue developing it was to fork it...
@@Trafotin Oh yeah, that's right! Tbh I forgot exactly what happened, I just knew that the fork would be considered "politically motivated" in certain circles. 😅😅 May as well rewatch Brodie's vid covering it at the time to refresh my memory!
@ min. 3:45, Just like LTT Channel LOL! 😂
Unfortunately, the "open source" community always have had these characters who are interested in FOSS simply because it is pragmatic for their interests, and care least about the ethics. Eric Raymonds is a high-level example. If you want examples from UA-cam you have Lunduke, who I always thought was a simpleton, Distrotube, Switched to Linux etc. Fortunately these guys are being pushed out everyday, and that's what is stirring up their bile.
But YOU, my friend, have earned a subscriber. Good video.
Oh yeah I avoid this guy like the plague. Switched to Linux is a terrible creator lmao
Glad you’re calling this dude out.
Oh man. this guy and lunduke. Forgot both of those dudes existed like 10 years ago lol why did they both have to get resurfaced
Quick question: if we unsubscribe, how are we to know whether or not he apologizes as you suggest he should? On the one hand, you want us to unsubscribe. On the other, you want us to watch to see if he recants his statements.
Use the RSS feed on his Odysee or Bitchute's if you prefer lower quality for bandwidth. Do not use UA-cam's because he omits videos, but it's useful for stream notifications (they are very early, but not his fault)
UA-cam will push it into your feed whether you like it or not. Plus all the drama channels that will have something to say
Am I really gonna spend 45 minutes watching a video telling me not to watch the most boring Linux UA-camr anyway?
You might find him boring, but there are legitimately people who watch STL and power his online platform. This is to make people aware of how much of a danger he is to himself and to others.
This is just sad men, just focus in tech and Linux that’s is what we like…all this drama is unnecessary…I’m gone…peace.
I think that’s why the video is important. Keeps naive kids from wasting their time thinking “switched to Linux” is legit when they google “should I switch to Linux?”
Him complaining about the pipewire version, clearly not knowing what he's talking about, is hilarious. I haven't finished the video yet, but thanks for this. This and Niccos spotlight on 'Linux sucks' sucks is great
On top of these things, his "REVIEWS" are shallow. I love the KDE Plasma desktop and watch lots of stuff on distros with that DE. But Switched to Linux reviews them by opening Discover and he says "This is Discover." and spends half the video doing this with the apps that are the same on every Plasma DE. He never really gets under the hood as to why one distro is different from another other than just the out of the box theming. His "review" of CachyOS missed 95% of what makes it different.
The comments read like they were written two years ago! We've moved on. I don't know about the disagreements between you guys, but UA-camr fights are never entertaining.
I disagree. I throughly enjoyed Steve calmly and collectively tear Linus a new asshole. And now I enjoy the LTT stuff more. Cause they manned up and corrected it. An example of what can happen when criticism isn’t seen as an insult and just a suggestion.
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i disagree with people saying bad stuff about minorities or being hostile to them, and i am all for an inclusive community. But simply stating that wayland is not ready for production is NOT TOXIC, but just a fact. When i use it on my machine with arch linux and KDE plasma and my NVIDIA GTX 1060 then it is buggy! simple VLC playback does not work. KDE Plasmoids (the little mini applications in the task bar like clock etc) will randomly freeze so that i need to restart the kde shell.
clip board does not work when copy pasting between software, discord is extremely laggy, codium IDE needs special setup to not be laggy, and it cannot run 2 instances at the same time (will crash when attempting to start a new one).
I know that wayland is the successor for linux desktop, and when i realease open source software then i make sure to support it. but right now, as of the making of this video, wayland is simply not ready for production and that is simply stating a fact! And this is not just my opinnion, Valve Steam OS for the brand new steam deck also still uses X11, because most games do not support X11.
And i really disagree with saying that people who do not want to use wayland just yet are toxic, i am not toxic, and i am constantly trying out wayland from time to time to find out if it is good enough already, but when someone asks me about weird bugs whilst using their desktop enviornment then the first thing we will try out is switching back to x11, and most of the time this will solve the problem. Wayland simply is not ready deal with it.
Gamescope, the Steam Deck interface that runs games, uses Wayland, not X11.
The only X11 usage is Desktop Mode.
@bretzel30000 genuine question: When did he say that criticizing Wayland was "toxic"?
Maybe I missed something, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I watched the section twice and didn't hear him say that.
He called it a "bad" opinion, but said that it's fine as long as it's not based on / spreading misinformation. That's not even close to what you claim that he said.
First off, I understand how you feel and want to be clear up front, there's a clear difference between you and STL-you actually bothered to describe in technical detail why Wayland isn't ready for you. However, I never stated criticizing Wayland is toxic behavior, Murosky happens to be toxic. Remember "correlation does not equate causation." As a content creator, I am held to a more serious standard of recommendation and in my experience with "normal" people, nobody knows or cares that they are using Wayland. It's fine you have your opinion, but please listen to the video or re-read the blog post if it wasn't clear. Also, please consider using a rolling release version of KDE. 5.27 and 6 are making major Wayland bug fixes and pushes and X11 is on its way out.
That's not a Wayland problem, but an Nvidia one. Nvidia Wayland is not ready yet. If you have am intel or amd going, it is ready.
now this, this is cinema
Amen!
Tysm trafotin for the seriousness, I regarded your channel as mostly mildly passive aggressive (in a jokingly/meme-ish way) linux fun and education, but you do really seem to care A LOT about the community. So ty for this, we are better off building a community based on respect and education instead of slandering and extremism.
I abandoned Windows in late 2018 and watched a few of his vids. Never encountered his politics but also his Linux only content felt very sus, aggressive and not very helpful. But your vid underlines this ...
Now this is effort
I'm inviting you to Distrohacking tomorrow at 7pm EST
i watched his videos and then unsubscribed again...
forgot why I did that, watched his videos again, remembered why... and unsubscribed
that dude does useless videos, just rambling around.
for example Brodie Robertson does similar "random" videos but they are enjoyable, smart and just not as cringe
Brodie's videos are not random. He clearly plans them.
I think some part of the message of the video was hurt by the "teasers" and publishing the script beforehand. The video is all "forgive and understand" while the teasers call for a different kind of organized action. :/
We don't need more drama in the community, it's all so tiring...
Not an STL fan btw, just watch your channel from time to time. Great work btw, keep it up.
22:34
Yes, you could say that FOSS was always "political". But is the best move for FOSS projects going forward really not to try to at least *try* to be less political, but instead actively become even more political in a single, ideological direction?
It seems better overall for the FOSS community in the long run to be as neutral as possible while keeping some basic policies on politeness instead of treating legitimately controversial ideas (e.g. systemic racism, DEI, "trans women are women", etc.) as incontrovertible truths. It serves very little practical purpose except to further polarize the FOSS space and alienate more people. I see zero evidence that baking any of these into official policy is necessary to create a polite and welcoming environment where people can be productive.
IMO it is better for these projects to cast the net as widely as possible. "Equal participation" does not require a policy of "keep your mouth shut and never contradict our sacred truths or we'll kick you out," that's absurd. Just let whoever wants to contribute do so, regardless of their political beliefs, and have a common sense policy about politeness (and yes, by that I mean a policy against deadnaming/misgendering would probably be for the best. Just like Jesus said in the bible, lol. 🙂)
But hey like you said, if people want to make their own weird FOSS echo chambers, they are certainly free to do so... just giving my opinion on what I think would benefit such projects the most.
Well, Jesus didn't specifically say "Thou shalt deadname or misgender thy neighbour," but I know what you mean and understand your perspective. Thank you for the comment.
Of course, just being facetious. Thanks for the reply@@Trafotin
17:40 giving medical advice now I see.
i wasn't a huge fan but i did use to watch his videos every once in a while, although i remember watching a video of his when RHEL was trying to close its source code. he was reading an article that at some point quoted the SEO of opensuse (don't quote me on that) which he said hated people who "believed in basic biology". left a bad taste in my mouth and haven't approached his content since, i'm glad i wasn't the only one who noticed. thank you.
LOL.. I think that on both accounts, technology and theology, you've demonstrated Murosky's main shortcomings - ability to research a topic, quote the source and present findings objectively - kudos Trafotin. On a personal note, I find that a vast amount of religious people assume morality by proxy, often echoing my observation of ignorance by shouting louder, whilst abandoning the virtues at the core of their preferred doctrine.
STL is an extremist. He is not representative of Christianity nor should he be.
When true and unadulterated communication stops, wars start, genocide kicks off, people die (sometimes in the inside first). It doesn’t cultivate life.
I switched to OpenSUSE after dabbling with multiple distros because of your video "Linux Distros I CAN'T Stand!", because of this I tend to default to Linux as my daily driver instead of Windows. It helped me find a stable and easy enough distro to finally switch over away from running Windows most of the time. So thank you for that rant! LoL
Thank you Trafotin for making this, it helped me think about how I can be more sympathetic/empathetic to, for lack of a better descriptor, "rainbow people" as a Christian. Even if someone believes that "stuff" is linked in different ways to sin or at least the affects of sin in people's lives, HOW someone communicates to such people matters as just as much as the message.
I am a straight white male redeemed by Christ reformed Christian (like R. C. Sproul), and in reformed Christianity the technical aspects of "being right" are important. This is to prevent errors in theology (the math/science of Christianity) from growing into things deadly to the Church. Though communication of "what is right" and correction therein MUST be done with love in a non-dismissive manner, especially to those outside the church.
Today's environment has gotten so very political and tribal that it seems to be way too easy to "sacrifice" or dismiss others in conversations or over their struggles that we might not understand. Paul definition of "love" in 1st Corinthians 13 is a good place to start. It defines what "love" is (especially in communication) as apposed to what it is not to give a good mirror to judge our own actions.
A while ago I watched a video, which you can see for free, called "Such Were Some Of You". Its title is a reference to the lives that Paul's brothers and sisters used to live, some in the "rainbow-world". Lives that because of Christ they live no-longer. It helped me see into what was a foreign world to me and some of the struggles therein. I recommend watching it wherever someone falls on the sexual/political/whatever spectrum.
So thanks for your work Trafotin, it IS appreciated.
One thing I find problematic about this talk is the approval of conversion therapy. Conversion therapy is unscientific, has abused queer people, and is a vehicle for cult behavior in churches. It's one thing to declare gay marriage a sin in the Christian context, but this pastor goes as far to refer to queer identity as a "lifestyle." Being queer is not a "lifestyle," it's how that person is. Sprinkle brings this up in numerous talks because most churches have not adapted their message to properly address queer people respectfully. I appreciate the comment, but I watched the sermon and was disappointed. Note Sprinkle still refers to non-heterosexual marriage as sin, but plays on level terms with queer Christians.
I've been having difficulty trying to get this to post (I'm new to commenting on UA-cam and its quirks), so if there are multiple cloned comments... sorry? [Figured it out? It was because I was referencing another channel where the film could be located?]
My apologies but I think I misspoke by not being specific enough as I think we are talking about two different videos. The video I was referring to is a documentary as well as an interview, not a sermon. It is the 2014 film called "Such Were Some of You" that is about 2 hr 9 min long. It covers the testimony of those who turned to Christ.
There is also a subtle but important point in the film that the overall goal should not be to "become heterosexual" but rather to turn to Christ, and that a consequence of that which outflows from loving Him is that He will, given time, turn one away from what someone was. If someone only seeks heterosexuality alone, especially apart from Christ, it is sort of missing the point and is a losing battle.
Hope that helps, and again thanks for the work you do Trafotin. You seem to be someone that tries to give people a fair shake. God bless.
@@Trafotin
I will consider watching it, thanks. Sorry for the confusion.
Trafotin, I just want to thank you for this amazing video. It provides a nuanced and well researched view into Tom than what I could ever expect from a call out video on youtube. I cannot give enough credit for providing solvency instead of just complaining about the creator. Please continue what you are doing.
Thank you for this video trafotin, we need more people like you in this community.
I wasn't aware of all of that. So disappointed of STL. Thanks for putting light on that.
STL's response to this video today seems to have been "Let me focus on this one detail, (which, granted, he did well), and ignore the rest of the video."
That detail being his book.
I think he also half mentioned the Patreon credits bit.
The Odysee video is more detailed because he outright shouted at trans people to accept their biological sex in the recording, but also fails to address any concerns I had. It also comes off as self-grandeur and advertisement. I don't even think it's worth responding to.
Did you just compare using windows to being gay?
Perhaps not the best analogy, but I tried to tie in to tech some how.
Ngl that caught me off guard 😂
I used to watch him years ago but the tin foil hat conspiracies and awful political views and general lack of quality just made me stop watching him. I hope he can improve as a person.
Dogma is dogma, is dogma, is dogma. Humans are full of it...
What a waste of time and effort. This is just a video someone picking on someone else who, in my opinion doesn’t deserve it. Everyone has their own thoughts and opinions. Some agree on things while others don’t. Switch to linux choose articles and gives his opinions on them. If ya don’t like it, don’t warch it.
I left a comment on this guys channel years ago on a video about Linux Mint 20 asking if people thought he had people locked in his basement...he liked the comment, and replied "shh..." It's still there today. Something tells me it might get removed after pointing it out here. :D
Well, he doesn't have a basement anymore...
You must cherish that comment, for even knowing its still there and you keep going to check, if it is still there.
Welcome to vtubers against STL. Your participation is noted and appreciated.
we need more FOSS tubers like you and WGE, and fewer guys like...this...
Using X to preach Y is a very old tactic that still does wonders today. DT and Luke did use it also.
I vehemently disagree with this video. I've been watching Switched to Linux for years, and feel that your critique is unfounded.
Why is my critique unfounded? Any particular reason?
36:09, amen XD
The term is "Nationalist Christian," or Nat C for short.
I agree with the first, but will not comment on the second.
Great vid!
28:53, I find this ironic really, I know God said they're an "abomination" but he didn't say that for the sake of hate, I suspect he only really did so so he could highlight the evil in us all that we might see how badly we need his help. After all, he already said long before that to "love thy neighbour" and then through his avatar Jesus Christ elaborated on that with the tale of the good samaritin (I've forgotten how that's spelt, don't mind it). As a side note for those who struggle to understand how God can be both himself and his son Jesus Christ, remember that Jesus is the *WORD* of God, meaning God must be the very essence of information. For example, if I were to delete this comment later, would that change the *information* that I posted it to begin with? No, of course not, no matter how many records of information are destroyed it will not change the information itself. That is what God is and also why he referred to himself as"I AM", because he just is, always has been, always will be. That is also part of why he insists we put him before all others, because if you can't trust the judgment of information itself, how can you trust your own judgment?
**Edit:** btw if it wasn't obvious I myself am christian. I fully rely on the sacrifice God made through Jesus Christ at the cross to pay for my sins/evils. Not an excuse to sin/do evil, just a guarantee that when my flesh finally fails me, my spirit which exists only as information like God's, will be taken to heaven by God, not left to suffer for all eternity in hell. I fully expect the evils in me to be removed prior to entering heaven so that alone is enough reason to let go of past misdeeds of both myself an anyone else around me. Let God deal with who must be dealt with, be it by the police, disease, disasters, or anything else God deems appropriate.
A slight correction, referring to Jesus as an avatar is not correct. Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are one Triune entity made up of 3 beings. I'm simply pointing out Christians have a way to disagree without resorting outright raging and hatred. God also called Christians to call out other Christians when they sin, yet how come most of them remain silent to Murosky despite the heinous things I showed? He is literally spreading lies that Jesus represents the oppressed white man and that's just false. There are verses in the Bible calling on Christians to call out injustice and this is that time.
@@Trafotin He IS God's avatar. Remember his other name, Emanual, which the angel sent to mary and joseph said is to be intrepeted as "*God* among us". The trinity part comes in where Jesus is also the *word* of God, for God to both himself and his own word he has to be information. The 3rd part of the trinity being consciencness.
@@zxuiji I see, when I hear avatar I think more of the Hindu/Buddhist sense, but not in the Christian view. Thank you for the correction.
Thank you for this video!
Fuck, Uncle Bonehead is in my Discord too. And he knows I'm also a Linux Vtuber? When you say "they" are you including him in the group that insulted the commenter?
You are a better person than I am for addressing this, and thanks for doing this.
I remember when he also tried to launch a boycott on Antix for being an openly antifascist distribution, and also Mx Linux because Antix's main dev also works on that project.
Lmao, Tom is so hateful.
I didn't even know that antiX was more open about this now. This didn't used to be the case. I don't agree personally, but at least they provide something useful to someone.
Sorry, i didn't see your response until today. Now the website says "a proudly antifascist distribution", and I can't afirm that that was the cause, but the calendar of when that went up seems to indicate it was a response ro Switched to Linux. But for 17 years now every release has been named after a left wing revolutiobary or comunity organizer, so it never was "hidden".
That's it... Im putting my foot down... Now Im picking it up...
Wow, Subscribe to both ur channel & yea he's a bit of knucklehead but in the ridiculousness is the entertainment...
You clearly have more Linux experience & way you deliver it, with ferver, at times, is very entertaining. Your right though... I don't want to listen to anyone Damming anyone else to hell... I going to heaven, just hope, not too soon.
Id like to thank you for your informative, interesting & stubborned entertaining delivery.... Keep on, keeping it on... Stay Gold Ponyboy...
A tidbit of wisdom...
You can pick your friends
You can pick your nose
but don't pick your friends nose👃 ....
Hello Trafotin, we meet again
I normally watch you on Odyssee, but since this video wasn’t posted on there I will comment on here.
Overall I think I agree with most of your stance, I think STL is really not doing the community any favors.
I did watch about 3 of his videos a month ago, and at least in my opinion, it felt very unwelcoming (Especially to new Linux users), and after watching your video makes me never want to never watch him again (so I blocked him on Odysee)
I have always liked your videos and your stance on Linux, even if other people (sometimes myself included) didn’t fully agree; In my opinion you are one of the best Linux UA-camrs making well informed and entertaining Linux content, and no matter how many STL fans come after you, I and many other people would support you all the way.
i never was a big viewer of his but i did watch Linux YT content more ... at some point i too saw the bad takes and making everything overly political and i just stopped then .. .and he wasn't even one of the creators i watched the most at THAT point. It was just a "his content is by far ... not for me" when i stopped watching
Mention about donation is quite hilarious 😂
I have thought about is the way to promote on someone hated but biger back, but... I think you make this videos for idea not for cash.
A++ God Bless your work !!
47:00 You have to realise there is "what the book says" and "what people believe" please don't pretend that christians have any tolerance or love.
There's a difference between extremism and a religion. Religions traditionally provided frameworks for societies to maintain order and make people's lives better. Think about it this way: Muslims should not be judged or represented by terrorists who do so in God's name. Christianity calls people to love and yes, churches have had people who do a crappy job at that, but those offenders are not representative of the whole.
@@Trafotin it's representational of the whole if the organization's top is similar. It really doesn't matter what's in the book, the way people live is the reality. Like have you ever met someone that calls themselves a Christian that you would say is filled with love? People that care really don't want to associate. Also some pretend to care but just a moment later and you hear something awful.
But this is just my experience.
Awesome video ❤
Moving off mickysoft crippleware is a massive upgrade to quality of life.
But like everything else, unless you like eating cat food all your life instead of Prime Rib. you must put some effort into it. Power in the extreme come along with that effort.
Or, don't bother and remain a cat food munching low end serf with no power.
Ok.
Really wish linux didn't have these wackos in the community. Sadly the ham radio & FTA satelite community has them as well.
Isn’t free software kinda a socialist idea? Or am I crazy
Absolutely, Comrade.
Between this and Nico Loves Linux calling out Lunduke, it has been a great week for calling out right wing, reactionary, boot licking weirdos in the Linux community. Thank you!
Hahaha of course he reads Lundukes blog
i used to watch his videos but after a while i started noticing that his content was pretty depressing, i didn't like how bitchy and sarcastic he was, also why does he rant on about medical and political stuff on his linux videos, people don't come to see that, no matter if they agree with him or not, smh
well, did he lose a subscriber I'll be checking out my accounts and unsubscribing from his channels, thanks Trafotin
There should be more people like you and Nicco on UA-cam.
The easiest red flag to find on linux youtuber is if they had videos of them walking in the woods
Guess I'm in trouble then... ua-cam.com/video/90FEz3-4LpE/v-deo.html
@@Trafotin It's joever
His UA-cam video focuses too much in making him seem like the victim, and too much on your comments of his book, and to all his points of him being somebody whom would not try to censor someone his lack of link to your channel or this video seemed weird. Half of his video is he is yelling about that minor point you made of his book (I think some of your comments were out of place, but his were worst) and drags it for 20 minutes. Not that I'm your biggest fan but your video seems more thought and researched than his.
the 1-2 punch by nicco first and trafotin second in the last few days has been glorious to watch
AMEN
lol
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Unsubscribed. See ya.
Oh no, people can't freely say fucked up bullshit without someone calling them out for it! Reactionaries are so easily triggered.
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27:41 My take on the religious stuff is that religion doesn't excuse bigotry. It doesn't matter what it says in your religious text. You have freedom of religion but you don't have the freedom to oppress others.
Modern Christianity (at least in western nations) is NOT an oppressed religion, it cannot be by definition. Modern Christianity in the west is the majority religion and holds state power in America. The statement from the Opensuse person isn't a bad statement and is very accurate. Tom Murosky is a very privileged person and uses his religious texts (the bible) to oppress minorities.
Just because your bible says you can do something doesn't mean its right. It isn't religious oppression to curtail certain religious practices when those religious practices actually infringe on the freedoms of others.
I would also like to disagree with the idea that Queer Christians are self-hating or should be self-hating. To me this seems like you are trying to justify queer oppression caused by religion (i hope i am misunderstanding this part because this is very queerphobic if true). Queer Christians realize that certain parts of the bible are simply incorrect (specifically the parts about how you cant practice being gay or marry people of the same sex).
If you take the time to listen to the interviews Sprinkle does with the queer Christians on his podcast, I hope that it will show that they experience something different and are more convicted to do something different than what most people traditionally associate with queer identity. IMO that's on them, but I wouldn't categorize it as self-hating. In fact, a common point you will see is many of the same queer Christians express their own concern for acceptance in their church communities and experiencing spiritual fulfillment that to them is different and their convictions in seemingly contradictory views. A point Sprinkle tries to make is society (including Christians given how pastors are treated by their congregations as there is the expectation to be married) puts marriage on a pedestal. Some people just wind up single for whatever reason and whether that is a straight relationship or not, single relationships should be celebrated too, not just heterosexual or queer ones. On marriage, I understand that's touchier, but I hope this helped clarify the viewpoint.
@@TrafotinThose are cherry-picked, most queer Christians aren't self-hating.
Not accepting yourself and thinking there is something wrong with being queer is by definition self-hating and is often used as justification for abusive practices caused by religion.
I watched him for a time but every one of his videos either WAS a stream, or has as much scripting as a stream. In my opinion, streams are low quality content compared to a scripted video that GETS TO THE POINT.
For people not in the know, what STL does is record a livestream, then he goes into video recording mode to record which become the videos, then ducks out of video recording mode to read chat. After stream ends, he edits the videos in UA-cam Studio or in Kdenlive to be their own videos. In STL's defense, that is how he chooses to produce his content and that's his own decision. His opinions on the other hand...
I think the gay gecko logo looks dope
I agree with your message, but I don't like this video, because all it does it giving his channel more attention.
Trafotin is the only Oishi I really care about
Delicious? What?
@@Trafotin おいしサンドイッチです
Oh a video about Londuke? Havent seen that face in years. Wonder whats that about. *watches video* Ok now I wished it had stayed that way.
Whats this video about this Switched To Linux guy? Never heard of him. *watches video* Ok now I wished it had stayed that way.
"i am not a linux hobbyist "
> has a linux channel
He is my favorite Linux schizophrenic now
I would ask that you do not describe someone as "schizophrenic" if they are not schizophrenic themselves. It can be offensive to people who are schizophrenic and I'm pretty sure after hours of watching STL that he is not either.
I've got some bad news, this guy isn't even schizotypal. He's not the new Terry Davis. This is not the return of The King.
@@TheEnmineer I didn't know Return of the King involved schizophrenia...
@@Trafotin The more you know
Used to watch his stuff a long time ago but got sooo tired of his news hot takes. Some of his takes are so paranoid and insane.
He's pretty bad. I seen him before and he's very annoying.
You're no better.
Amen!