I love this episode for the fact that Geordi's reaction is realistic. Most people wouldn't admit what he did, and most people would be defensive when caught.
Hahaha! They were warning us to delete browser history 5 years before that was really a thing. Star Trek has been credited with inspiring the invention of cell phones, tablets, wireless communications, and now deleting browser history 😅
LaForge: "It was a professional collaboration." Brahms: "'Every time you touch it you're touching me?' Real professional." LaForge: "I didn't write that! That line was written by Michael Piller!"
It was written by the ship's computer, which my head canon is wearing Leah Brahms' image as an avatar in the original episode, because it felt sorry for its Engineer's romantic issues.
@@Brian-qn7fn he didnt do anything creepy. Its not like he had holodeck sex with the thing. He had a legitimate reason for creating it, and its not his fault he caught a bit of a crush. He felt awkward about it but there was a real reason that program existed and it DID help them get out of a crisis situation.
In Geordi's defense, in "Booby Trap", the hologram was coming on to him. All he asked was for the computer to show him something, and it created Leah Brahms, then he asked the computer to give it a personallity, and it made flirty, sexy Leah Brahms. I think the Enterprise computer had a thing for Geordi and used the hologram as a way to hook up with him. Anyway, thats my report, starfleet HR representative.
Turns out the holodeck was only given one female personality to use, horny nerd girl. It never occurred to the programmer that another one would be requested. Given that the main use for the holodeck would be keeping the male crew members 'calm and focused'......
@@caseyanne967 What if the holodeck A.I. was just modeling her personality based on his previous program interactions in the holodeck. So he has shown a preference for flirty females. Since Geordi gave no specifics, the A.I. just used past history to create something it thought he would like.
@@xtremejay2000 It wasn't based on Geordi's preferences. He asked the computer if there was a personality file for Dr Brahms available, and there was. He also asked about other sources, like when she did debates. Finally, he said " Computer, if you add data from all these sources, could you synthesise a true representation of Doctor Brahms?" That's what he wanted the computer to provide for him.
I think Josh was very spot on that Geordi was clearly in the wrong and Leah didn't have to apologize to Geordi at the end, but I think it was her just being gracious. Having worked with him some, she can clearly see Geordi's not a bad guy even if he's an imperfect guy and was clearly in the wrong here.
That's how I always interpret the ending. Brahms knows it was wrong and creepy and weird, but Geordi said it was a "professional collaboration in a crisis situation," and Brahms experienced collaborating with Geordi in a crisis firsthand. That, more than anything else, turned her around on Geordi. Not absolving him, but forgiving him. Brahms didn't owe Geordi an apology, but she was feeling gracious in offering one.
Given that Guinan -- well-written as the voice of wisdom as ever -- calls Geordi out quite ruthlessly, I'd say the episode is aware of how cringey he's being. Which leaves the question of whether that level of questionable judgement is in character for Geordi. I suppose it neatly shows the problem in making holograms so complete, lifelike and well-programmed. I remember all the questions you had watching "Booby Trap", so I was waiting to see what you thought of this one!
Geordi: Guinan, it's the same visor. Guinan: Really? Oh, I figured it was probably the one that lets you see what you want to see. * In Mortal Kombat voice * TOASTY!! 😂
It was from the orbiting cameras that get those great shots of the ship going to Warp... It's the same impossible camera gag from TMP where Starfleet watches the Klingons ships get destroyed. HOW?!?
Internet didn’t get big until the mid 90s. And what you could do with it was fairly primitive for a bit. This was definitely new territory when this came out.
I agree with your B ranking, and here's why: the Leah Brahms plot is a C at best (C for cringe) while the baby alien part is an A. So it averages out to a B or B- for me. I love how heartbroken Captain Picard gets about accidentally killing the mother creature and how invested he is in the survival of the baby. I wish we could have seen more of that plot. Michael Dorn is a pilot, and he once told a story on a Galaxycon panel about radioing in to the tower for landing instructions, and the air traffic controller was like, "...is this WORF?!?"
I always assumed the cameras were located on various parts of the ship, such as the Nacelles. It would make sense for the ship to be able to see various parts of itself for repairs, damage, or alien babies sucking at it's teats.
I rather love Gekli - the Cosmozoans introduced in this episode. They're actually remarkably docile and affectionate, it was sheer bad luck they got too close while it was pregnant. In Star Trek Online, the MMO Game first launched in 2010, you can actually get a domesticated Gekli that will follow you around like a pet, and on occasion, fly alongside wild pods of them in deep space. It's a pleasing idea, that among all the strange, strange creatures out in the void of space, you still find things that are majestic, graceful, and benign.
Yeah, space lifeforms are always a cool concept in sci-fi. I particularly like the way they're handled in the game _No Man's Sky_ . In that game, you can encounter a space-creature that's been cybernetically enhanced to allow you to ride inside it like a starship.
The last time Picard used lethal force on an unknown alien spacecraft that randomly attacked him first, he killed DaiMon Bok's son and then had to abandon his ship, the Stargazer.
I wonder how her take on the character would be. It's more or less agreed that the first person who tried out had the wrong spin on Janeway and realized it wasn't going to be for her.
I think she could have done well, based on what I have seen in the two episodes of TNG she appeared in. She seems to strike the right balance between being a stern and commanding personality, while still be capable of softer emotions.
The continuing adventures of Geordie's negative rizz. Honestly, the whole thing makes me nervously sweat. The alien baby thinking the Enterprise is it's mother is also iconic within the fandom and gets referenced a fair bit. Fun fact: The aliens were one of the first fully CGI creatures created for Star Trek (the first being the Crystalline Entity which was mainly a collection of polygons). As such for the blu-rays they had to recreate the alien from scratch, but stayed very faithful to the original CGI.
Now that we've had some advancements in technology of our own, I think I finally figured out how the ship's viewscreen can see anything it wants... it uses sensor data to create an AI-generated representation of what it understands to be there. The sensors on the Enterprise are so advanced that it can differentiate colors of paint on the hull of a Romulan Warbird.
Fwiw, the ensign in engineering says she gave Brahms access to the holodeck file, saying she didn’t think it would be a problem. It’s not explicit but it could mean there was a password but the engineer overrode it like a sysadmin might.
@targetaudience I'm sad to report that Jeri Taylor passed away earlier today. You've already seen a few of her episodes this season, and there are more to come. Just be careful because most of the obituaries and write ups contain spoilers for later TNG episodes, as well as other Star Trek franchises that she wrote and produced. Make her memory be for blessings, RIP. 😢
Maybe she came around after seeing how defensive he was, but she then checked through all the logs and realised all this was over one kiss. She probably assumed it was much worse.
A good Barclay holodeck fantasy would be him as a shuttle pilot for an elite Starfleet Commando unit. They could maybe have a top secret mission to rob the Bank of Cardassia Prime, but their headquarters gets blown up, so the wind up on trial for a crime they didn't commit....
You give Geodi too little credit by assuming he made other Holodeck programs containing Dr. Brahms. There is nothing to suggest he did, and he was aware of what had happened previously with Lt. Barkley.
no one i knew had internet till 96 or 97 my school was still analogue for a while. I remember in high school calling people and getting dial up. But it was in college when we started doing message boards and youtube. Early internet was home pages with gifs, midis and s guest book we could read but not talk.
The viewscreen isn't connected to cameras on the outside of the ship or anything like that. It takes sensor readings and renders them as an image, which means it can get pretty much any angle--even a shot of the Enterprise itself.
The shot of the hill. I thought how did they do that too, when the episode was first aired,, I think maybe there is a camera on the worp necell. Or on the necell struts.. 🖖
External sensors floating around the ship totally was a thing on SeaQuest DSV. The titular submarine was surrounded by Wireless Sea Knowledge Retrieval Satellites - pronounced "whiskers".
I don't like Geordi's reaction to Dr. Brahms' reaction to the holodeck recording. He acted like she was being unreasonable in reacting the way she did, but IMO she was COMPLETELY justified in being as outraged as she was.
Yep. He was clearly in the wrong and like Josh and Alex discussed, he went into 'whataboutism' mode out of being caught red-handed and getting defensive. I've seen it irl, too, where a person just has no good reason or rationale for doing what they did and they bring up something else to 'come over the top' and try to out outrage you.
The ending of this episode has always irked me a little. It smacks of "boys will be boys" . If someone nowadays used my image in an AI program for fantasy purposes, it would not be "oh you scallywag!". What Geordi did was completely wrong, and there's no acknowledgment of that. Not an episode I like.
34:14 in SeaQuest they had 'whiskers' (Wireless Sea Knowledge Retrieval Satellites) floating around outside the ship, to explain all the external shots. In Trek, the computer generates the image - Worf said in Peak Performance, if he fools the sensors, "the computer will project a false image of the enemy ship on the main viewscreen."
I like how the teaser just completely ignores the main plot around LaForge and instead makes it seem like the Enterprise is just fighting an alien.😅 This episode is hit or miss for me, Geordi doesn't really have a leg to stand on trying to paint Dr. Brahms as the bad guy for being mean. I always saw it more as her just being uncomfortable and trying to keep her distance from someone whose being just too forward in his flirting. Also I forgot how savage Guinan was in this.😂
The problem is, even before he is being too forward she is mean and insulting. She literally comes off the transporter saying Geordi ruined her work. In fact she seems to warm to Geordi the more time they spend together, which was after he did all the flirting and they had the awkward dinner.
@@ODSTGeneralYT I think I felt she softened because he showed her how competent he was and slowly convinced her his changes were justified. And is also friendly. But I think she thought the dinner with the guitar music was a bit weird and tried to subtly say so.
46:50 - what happened there to the audio? Sounds like the highs got boosted making it sound a bit tinny. On the other hand maybe it was a bit muffled to begin with, but this was overcompensation. Or maybe it's just echo?
35:00 Exterior cameras: What job do you think the green Ensign who just reported aboard the Federation Flagship is assigned?? They just stick them in a space suit with a camera and tell them to walk the hull for a few weeks at a time! In all seriousness though, it's likely there are visual inputs all over the exterior of the ship for full 360 degree by 360 degree coverage. That view shown in the episode probably came from an input mounted somewhere on the starboard warp nacelle.
I believe the images seen on the viewscreen, when not talking over an open hailing frequency are complied from the sensor data the ships systems gather, so they can image any view of the ship the same way they can see objects far away.
I always figured that the image was from a camera on the starboard warp nacelle, with allowances for the filming miniature resulting in a position just slightly off. I do like the idea of a sensor compilation of visible light, which IS essentially a camera but still compiled as is the birds-eye parking view in a Mercedes.
2:03 - *_"Mecca lecca hi, mecca hiney ho... Your wish is granted! Long live Jambi!"_* 😂😅🤣 10:12 - *Believe it or not, that is a huge complaint/criticism of the show from many viewers: Many say that Worf constantly gets thwarted both by his fellow officers who reject most of his suggestions and advice or gets physically overpowered by other aliens. And while I don't find that to be a problem for the show, I do understand their frustrations as it is based on a basic truth: Just like the Ferengi were made to be a representation of human greed at it's worst, Klingons were made to represent human brutality and warmongering; Klingons embody strength and aggression. So while Worf is a much more balanced "Rōnin" (A samurai without master) archetype character, both his Klingon heritage and his position as Chief of Security/Tactical officer pushes him to advocate for strong stances, shows of force and readiness for battle. On the other hand, Picard and many other officers being explorers "seeking new life and new civilizations" advocate for a more cooperative, peaceful and tactful approach; and since the whole of Roddenberry's vision for humanity's future is a peaceful world and a universe to explore, Worf rarely doesn't get overruled in his in such matters. Unfortunately, he is also represented the strongest biological member of the crew (With only Data, a non-biological, being stronger) and so whenever the show needs to show that an alien species is a real physical threat to the crew: In rushes Worf on the attack only to get backhanded like a fly!* *So, yes: Worf gets turned down and beaten up a lot on the show... But each time: THAT IS THE POINT! it is to either play devil's advocate with our most base instinct and to make the point that that is what we need to overcome in ourselves (Which is EXACTLY WHY I think "Worf Episodes" are so popular with fans of the series: Because on those episodes, we usually get to see Worf transcends those base "Klingon/Human" instincts and triumph over them... Plus he often **_Kicks-ass_** a lot in those episodes! LOL!)* 14:23 - *Yes: Today it seems ridiculous as everyone knows about "Search Histories" and password protections. But this episode is a little bit a victim of it's time!* *This episode aired in 1991 (And the internet didn't really become popular until 1994-95): Back then, many people hadn't even touched a computer yet (Many had, but many also had not!), many didn't know what a Logon name was an thought "A password" was what Aladdin used to open a cave! (I'm exaggerating a little... But only a little!). So such security concepts were barely in the ethos at the time; but I will also concede that it suited the plot for there to not be any security measure on the Holodeck. Now we HAVE seen security measures on the bridge and in engineering before, but those ARE indeed sensitive areas of the ship while the Holodeck is suppose to be a communal entertainment area accessible to all the public (Same as the gyms and other "game rooms"), so inappropriate programs should not run on it (And to an extend, probably would not; don't think anyone could run a XXX-rated program in there without the senior staff getting an alert... **_Not without the help of a Ferengi, at least!_** IYKYK 😅) Plus, as it as also been shown in previous episodes, the society humans live in the 24th century (And even more so with Starfleet Officers) are disciplined and would not make such transgressions; which is why Barclay's programs in the first episode when we met him, even if not outright over the line, were such a shock to the senior staff.* *So yes: All reactors seeing such episodes and lack of security protocols have the same reaction (Kind of in the same way that reactors watching the 1983 movie Wargames are flabbergasted that the school admin write their computer passwords on a piece of paper glued to a desk! But that is precisely because the first people who dealt with computers in those days use to do this that today everyone has been **_drilled_** into NOT doing that!)*
just a nerdy knowledge in reference to "how did they get that view", the images shown on the viewscreen of space are not exactly the same as a camera lenses, they are basically images created by the sensors of the ship of what it scans outside of it, that is why get perfect views of other ships and can view the hull of your own ship from a external view, it is also why some cloaking devices dont make the ship go invisible but instead jam the sensors to the point that it wont produce a image or register on consoles
Special note on how the viewscreen works. There are no cameras on the Enterprise. The "screen" projects a holographic three-dimensional image based on sensor data. Essentially, it creates a visual representation of whatever data they have available on the scanned area or object. This is most notable in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. While tracking the whales near the end of the film Uhura finds them via their tracking frequency in order to get their location. She gives a heading and Kirk requests that it be put on the viewscreen. At that point Dr. Taylor asks how he can do that and soon after an image of the whales appears on the screen as though it were being seen from a drone or helicopter. Sensors scanned the area mentioned by Uhura and projected an image based on the acquired data. It's a blink and you miss it moment, but it pretty much sums up how the viewscreen does its job. This also explains why communications with other ships is also in 3D. They're not getting a camera feed, but a scan of the other ship's bridge being projected onto the viewscreen. Interestingly enough, games like Star Trek Bridge Commander maintained this within its code so if you moved your head while someone was on the viewscreen you could trick the camera to see them in 3 dimensions. It's not a flat projection.
To me, Guinan is a supreme example of less being more. We're given just enough of her to enjoy her performances and character, but wanting just a bit more each time. But, if we did get more, I don't know that it would have worked as well.
Always keep them guessing. Mystery makes characters good. If this series was done now, they would explain a full backstory of Guinan and ruined the entire character.
@@Raja1938 They seem pretty sensitive on relationship abuse/cringe issues. I do give them respect for being very even on that. They were very offended by the Riker sub-plot in "First Contact" and other eps they felt were "female on male" abuse.
On the holodeck replaying something: Sometimes my UA-cam videos replay a few seconds after an ad break, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities that the programme might replay the last couple of minutes to get the user back into the mind-frame of what happened before.
I've been struggling with this too, and I can only surmise they feel that it isn't "true" to Geordi's character. I disagree, this episode shows a realistic human reaction on both sides, and it seems to me to be inline with Geordi's intelligent but not necessarily great socially character. We can certainly agree as a human his reaction was cringe, but why does that make the episode bad?
My understanding is some feel, Guinan's criticism aside, the episode is kind of siding with Geordi's behavior or at least indicating it's not a bigger deal than Brahms being rude earlier. And that doesn't play well now at least.
The weird part is is in the TNG technical manual, there is smaller personal holodex that are in some of the quarters. Which I guess would be the modern equivalent of a home theater. However, since Jordy was using a lot more of computer power to generate that simulation for the engines... Maybe he just never put a password on it or never deleted it? Or perhaps the main holodecks like that can't be password protected? I don't know. I need to reread that section
I always wondered why the holodeck chose to make Dr. Brahms kinda flirty: "Here, let me give you a shoulder massage." Somebody, somewhere programmed that in to the holodeck program, I guess because it was built to enable fantasies? I'd think there ought to be rules about likenesses of real people, though.
The Trek viewscreen doesn't need cameras, they just pluck images from the ether somehow..... :) Remember in ST 4 (Voyage Home) when they have the whaling ship on the viewscreen 10 mins before they get anywhere near it and 20th century girl is amazed they can do that. Like many sci-fi technologies, I think the viewscreen is powered by convenience crystals. You can run all kinds of powerful plot devices on convenience crystals.
Regarding the rear view of the hull, I always figured the camera was on the nacelle or even just the rear of the stardrive section, even if the angle doesn't /quite/ line up.
I like to think that LaForge was using the holodeck as a work thing so this program was filed under "work stuff" and the creepy stuff sort of evolved unintentionally. There are probably zillions of little programs here and there for simulation and diagnostic purposes, he probably figured nobody would ever look at that one. Needle in a haystack, and not filed away as a personal thing.
The view screen views of ship exterior are always meant to be from other points of the ship - but logistically not always practical to create, especially when they are already straining the FX budget - in this case to get the proper lower angle from a camera on the warp nacelle, they would have had to chop off part of the model to fit the filming camera… that + budget is why you get a recycled plate of the ship to work with.
I looked up the writing credits on this episode and found the teleplay was written by Maurice Hurley, the former producer who was responsible for Gates McFadden's absence from the show in Season 2. According to McFadden, she had raised some concerns about the content in general and her character in particular. Specifically, she thought the episode "Angel One" was sexist and that Dr. Crusher shouldn't tell Wesley to shut up. As a result, Hurley deemed her "difficult to work with" and, when he became showrunner in season 2, didn't ask her back. The character of Dr. Crusher might not have come back except that Hurley was replaced by Michael Piller and fans wrote letters on McFadden's behalf, asking for Dr. Crusher to be reinstated. When you know all that, Geordi's attitude toward Dr. Brahms, and the general tone of the episode, start to make a lot more sense.
This is like THE Geordi episode in my mind. But I agree the whole resolution felt really off. Like his argument was basically "well sure I caught feelings for a fantasy hologram I made of you, but it was a *workplace* fantasy hologram, so it should be fine, right?"
Geordi having feelings for her isn't what she was having an problem with. That's why she's okay with it later on when she learns that he got attached to her hologram. Instead, the issue was that she thought he created the hologram as some pervy way to satisfy his desires. Geordi didn't do that, he really was trying to solve the issue with the ship, and the ship's computer is what gave her her lines and personality, including the "...touching me." line. *Edit:* She wasn't justified in how she reacted because she was reacting based on a misunderstanding. He wasn't just using her hologram to perv on, and he didn't program her to be all sexy and treat him like a lover; instead, he was using her program to try to solve a potentially lethal situation, and the computer made her hologram be a little spicy with him.
@@Lincynity1 Well, that may be. I don't know. I didn't really see anything creepy. However, if you reread what I wrote, I'm not talking about him doing anything creepy in this episode or not; instead, I'm talking about whether he did anything creepy merely by creating a hologram of her to solve the Enterprise's issues. She's upset because she thinks that he created her hologram to sleep with her, or something (which is why she asks if he created one for every day or every mood he had). She thought that he created a hologram of her to fantasize about, like Barclay. He didn't. *Edit:* I forgot to mention, that's why she doesn't care when he admitted he got attached to her. She even laughs about it. She realized that he was not trying to be pervy with her hologram, but to solve a deadly situation, which was the misimpression she had that led her to being so upset.
@@Lincynity1 The only sense in which he's a creep is in trying to spark things with Brahms early on. He should've simply been upfront that he'd studied her work and public speeches, instead of making it seem like he magically knew her interests and work record.
I think the holodeck thing is pretty innocent and him explaining it was fine. But then he goes too far saying "the only thing I did wrong is try to be your friend", or whatever, which is largely dishonest (I don't think you go to the kind of efforts for dinner he did if you merely want to hang out with someone. I mean Geordi has been shown to sleep in his uniform, but here he changes clothes and gets light guitar ready?) and it feels like he's trying to guilt her for a pretty understandable misunderstanding.
@@ThomasReeves-s7u Yeah, this is pretty much the same take I have, and I think it's a good one. I just also think that a misunderstanding, although understandable, doesn't justify such a reaction as she had. She was accusing him of being a skeevy perv. in doing what he did with the hologram. Just to clarify my position, and I'm not saying that you are claiming this of me, I'm not saying the Geordi did nothing wrong; rather, I'm just saying that her reaction was overblown, based on a misunderstanding, and--therefore--not justified. Geordi did act a bit unethical in this episode, in my opinion, and he should have just been honest with her. His line, "the only thing I did wrong is try to be your friend", was--for that reason--a terrible one. I think, though, this is that earlier Star Trek way of writing characters that often has them being overly dramatic. Also, it could actually be an intentional tip-off to the audience that Geordi did act wrongly, cleverly devised to make us examine his actions to see if they accord with his statement.
"The internet" as we know it basically started in 1993. Prior to that, it was just bulletin boards and file transfer sites. ARPAnet tied several universities together going back as far as 1968, but it only had email and file transfer functions.
I was using the internet in the eightys in the Air Force for aircraft maintenance records. It wasn't made publicly available until 93. It hadn't changed much by 93. It was still quite rudimentary compared to today.
Going to warp would not remove the alien. Warp drive does not work by transferring propulsive force through the structure of the ship, like the impulse drive does. Warp drive creates a bubble of space, and everything in the bubble is moved because the warp drive moves the bubble. This is why the saucer can separate at warp speeds and still be at warp, like in encounter at far point or what they almost did in Brothers. When the saucer exited the warp bubble, it then came back to sub-light speeds. The saucer of a galaxy class does not have warp propulsion, only impulse. So junior was attached to the back of the interconnecting dorsal, where it would have been firmly within the warp bubble, and stayed with the ship. As for seeing the back of the ship, I think the idea was the camera was mounted to the starboard nacelle, that's why it shown from the side. But we musn't assume their visuals are only capable of showing us views from a single optical camera. They probably have great sensor fusion in the future, I mean, the view screen is itself a holographic viewer. It can probably synthesize a holographic view of the back of the ship using any number of external sensors of varying types, and combine it together for a 'god mode' just like our video games can. Probably most of our “on screen” visuals are not a single camera, but a wide variety of sensor data synthesized into a visual approximation. Why else would the nebula prevent us from seeing as clearly in wrath of Kahn? (Well, I mean, you could argue it’s high energy protons hitting the camera sensors)
There's absolutely ZERO defending Geordi here. He's a stalker and is creeping HARD on this woman. What's worse, the writers had HER apologize at the end! WTF, TNG?!? I actually prefer the B-plot to this one...though every time the Enterprise encounters a spaceborn life form, they act like they've never seen such a thing before - except they have, in Tin Man and the vert first TNG episode...
@@rocco3381 The base model, sure, but then our plucky engineer went to work a-tinkering :) It's why I didn't say it was a lie but it is certainly choosing a singular aspect that removes his input from the process!
The aft views of the ship: The Enterprise could have a series of predefined positions around the hull where mirrors can materialize as needed. Using the transporter’s precision, the mirrors could be instantly generated at these locations based on the crew’s requirements-such as monitoring specific parts of the hull, investigating external anomalies, or checking for damage. Using advanced optics, the exterior cameras would zoom to the mirror and horizontally flip the image to protect a real-time image of any portion of the ship exterior.
@@personzorz Keep in mind the nacelles are a lot lower, so that camera would need to be incredibly high up to be able to get that shot. It also wouldn't account for other shots and angles through out the show. The mirrors are an interesting idea, one I wouldn't have thought of. Though I don't think that would work if the ship is moving. My guess is the computer takes data from the sensors and converts it to a close estimation of the image based on that information.
The scene that needed to be in Geordie at his engineering station: Computer, delete holodeck program Brahms1... Computer voice: That program is currently in use Geordie: Who the HELL is acessing my program Computer: Program is being used by Dr Leah Brahms Cut to Geordie running full sprint past Deanna in the corridor screaming "GET THE F*** OUT OF MY WAY !!!" 😂🤣😂🤣😂😅😂
I'm really loving the score reveals. Every time, I find myself guessing what you guys are going to give a show. I thought this might be a double A for A/B for you guys b/c you seemed to enjoy the episode (and, to be fair, B is not a bad grade for you guys). It was definitely an enjoyable B for me, too.
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In the scene of Junior potsticker on the hull, it looked like the shot was seen from the right nacelle.
I love this episode for the fact that Geordi's reaction is realistic. Most people wouldn't admit what he did, and most people would be defensive when caught.
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An important reminder to always delete your browser history.
Cringe factor 9. Engage!
Always use Incognito tabs.
Hahaha! They were warning us to delete browser history 5 years before that was really a thing.
Star Trek has been credited with inspiring the invention of cell phones, tablets, wireless communications, and now deleting browser history 😅
Really? @@tjkhanks, How did humanity manage to survive???😮❤
Ha!
"There is no shame in the 24th Century"
Geordi: "As it turns out, there is a lot of shame."
lmao poor Burton
**over the loud speaker** Mr La Forge please report to HR
Haha....does Starfleet have an HR department? They should.
@@user-xp9ry8yh9z Unfortunately, the department head is William T. Riker.
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That would be racist. It would be sentient resources.
@@user-xp9ry8yh9z For the Enterprise, that would be Riker.
The eye pop on Josh's face when the crew member gives up Geordi's holodeck program to Leah 😱
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LaForge: "It was a professional collaboration."
Brahms: "'Every time you touch it you're touching me?' Real professional."
LaForge: "I didn't write that! That line was written by Michael Piller!"
It was written by the ship's computer, which my head canon is wearing Leah Brahms' image as an avatar in the original episode, because it felt sorry for its Engineer's romantic issues.
On this week’s episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, Geordi learns a very important lesson on always delete your holodeck browsing history.
Or use Wesley's login.
No, the lesson is to not be a creep and an a-hole.
@@Brian-qn7fn he didnt do anything creepy. Its not like he had holodeck sex with the thing. He had a legitimate reason for creating it, and its not his fault he caught a bit of a crush. He felt awkward about it but there was a real reason that program existed and it DID help them get out of a crisis situation.
My dad and I call this the Space Ravioli episode.
Guinan's line about Geordi's visor was the biggest burn of the Next Generation.
She always had the sickest burns. But also the dumbest joke with that ‘droid-noid’ line.
But Geordi gives it back to her good next season. Can't wait.
I think it's up there with pipsqueak Wesley yelling at Geordi, "At least I don't have to find my women in the holodeck!"
In Geordi's defense, in "Booby Trap", the hologram was coming on to him. All he asked was for the computer to show him something, and it created Leah Brahms, then he asked the computer to give it a personallity, and it made flirty, sexy Leah Brahms.
I think the Enterprise computer had a thing for Geordi and used the hologram as a way to hook up with him.
Anyway, thats my report, starfleet HR representative.
Exactly. He didn't ask for a sexy Leah Brahms, the computer created that personality in the holodeck. Geordi wasn't the one who initiated it.
Turns out the holodeck was only given one female personality to use, horny nerd girl.
It never occurred to the programmer that another one would be requested.
Given that the main use for the holodeck would be keeping the male crew members 'calm and focused'......
@@caseyanne967 What if the holodeck A.I. was just modeling her personality based on his previous program interactions in the holodeck. So he has shown a preference for flirty females. Since Geordi gave no specifics, the A.I. just used past history to create something it thought he would like.
@@xtremejay2000 It wasn't based on Geordi's preferences. He asked the computer if there was a personality file for Dr Brahms available, and there was. He also asked about other sources, like when she did debates. Finally, he said " Computer, if you add data from all these sources, could you synthesise a true representation of Doctor Brahms?" That's what he wanted the computer to provide for him.
@@caseyanne967 Thank you for clarifying. I was just speculating. Been a while since I have seen the full episode. Didn't remember the details.
I think Josh was very spot on that Geordi was clearly in the wrong and Leah didn't have to apologize to Geordi at the end, but I think it was her just being gracious. Having worked with him some, she can clearly see Geordi's not a bad guy even if he's an imperfect guy and was clearly in the wrong here.
That's how I always interpret the ending. Brahms knows it was wrong and creepy and weird, but Geordi said it was a "professional collaboration in a crisis situation," and Brahms experienced collaborating with Geordi in a crisis firsthand.
That, more than anything else, turned her around on Geordi. Not absolving him, but forgiving him. Brahms didn't owe Geordi an apology, but she was feeling gracious in offering one.
Given that Guinan -- well-written as the voice of wisdom as ever -- calls Geordi out quite ruthlessly, I'd say the episode is aware of how cringey he's being. Which leaves the question of whether that level of questionable judgement is in character for Geordi. I suppose it neatly shows the problem in making holograms so complete, lifelike and well-programmed. I remember all the questions you had watching "Booby Trap", so I was waiting to see what you thought of this one!
There’s not point in reporting Geordie’s conduct since it would technically be Riker’s job to discipline him and Riker is even a bigger horndog.
Case in point: Lt. Barclay's program and how he was fine rubbing Troi's nose in it?
Geordi: Guinan, it's the same visor.
Guinan: Really? Oh, I figured it was probably the one that lets you see what you want to see.
* In Mortal Kombat voice * TOASTY!!
😂
FATALITY
The view on the back of the Enterprise was from the perspective of the starboard warp nacelle.
Same here, that's what I thought.
Hey if SpaceX can mount cameras all over its rockets, I would think that is standard practice in the 24th century.
It was from the orbiting cameras that get those great shots of the ship going to Warp...
It's the same impossible camera gag from TMP where Starfleet watches the Klingons ships get destroyed.
HOW?!?
@@jasoncaldwell5627 in this case it wasn't.
Internet didn’t get big until the mid 90s. And what you could do with it was fairly primitive for a bit. This was definitely new territory when this came out.
@34:10 No Alex, it's not a separate craft recording events. It is the camera view from the starboard engine nacelle.
I agree with your B ranking, and here's why: the Leah Brahms plot is a C at best (C for cringe) while the baby alien part is an A. So it averages out to a B or B- for me.
I love how heartbroken Captain Picard gets about accidentally killing the mother creature and how invested he is in the survival of the baby. I wish we could have seen more of that plot.
Michael Dorn is a pilot, and he once told a story on a Galaxycon panel about radioing in to the tower for landing instructions, and the air traffic controller was like, "...is this WORF?!?"
Yes he owns a vintage Korean War era F-86 Sabre fighter plane and a T-33 Shooting Star jet trainer
@@arrow1414 Dang, now that's a man living his best life.
best intro ever. Can't wait for Alex and Josh's Civil War.
I always assumed the cameras were located on various parts of the ship, such as the Nacelles. It would make sense for the ship to be able to see various parts of itself for repairs, damage, or alien babies sucking at it's teats.
I rather love Gekli - the Cosmozoans introduced in this episode. They're actually remarkably docile and affectionate, it was sheer bad luck they got too close while it was pregnant. In Star Trek Online, the MMO Game first launched in 2010, you can actually get a domesticated Gekli that will follow you around like a pet, and on occasion, fly alongside wild pods of them in deep space. It's a pleasing idea, that among all the strange, strange creatures out in the void of space, you still find things that are majestic, graceful, and benign.
Yeah, space lifeforms are always a cool concept in sci-fi. I particularly like the way they're handled in the game _No Man's Sky_ . In that game, you can encounter a space-creature that's been cybernetically enhanced to allow you to ride inside it like a starship.
13:02 Riker’s grin always gets me
Getting smacked across the head with a Live Long and Prosper sign - priceless 😅
"Fire again!" Didn't realize Alex was a Klingon.
The last time Picard used lethal force on an unknown alien spacecraft that randomly attacked him first, he killed DaiMon Bok's son and then had to abandon his ship, the Stargazer.
Well, that and Wolf 359....
Susan Gibbey was considered for Captain Janeway
I wonder how her take on the character would be. It's more or less agreed that the first person who tried out had the wrong spin on Janeway and realized it wasn't going to be for her.
And 7of9.
That might have been cool.
I think she could have done well, based on what I have seen in the two episodes of TNG she appeared in.
She seems to strike the right balance between being a stern and commanding personality, while still be capable of softer emotions.
*Gibney
The continuing adventures of Geordie's negative rizz. Honestly, the whole thing makes me nervously sweat.
The alien baby thinking the Enterprise is it's mother is also iconic within the fandom and gets referenced a fair bit.
Fun fact: The aliens were one of the first fully CGI creatures created for Star Trek (the first being the Crystalline Entity which was mainly a collection of polygons).
As such for the blu-rays they had to recreate the alien from scratch, but stayed very faithful to the original CGI.
Need an edit... "She went WHERE?!" (cut to Geordi launching himself out of an escape pod)
Dematerializing himself into the transporter buffer until she's gone ..
This is Geordie's holographic porn stash episode. Where he finally gets busted.
Now that we've had some advancements in technology of our own, I think I finally figured out how the ship's viewscreen can see anything it wants... it uses sensor data to create an AI-generated representation of what it understands to be there. The sensors on the Enterprise are so advanced that it can differentiate colors of paint on the hull of a Romulan Warbird.
6:08 attacked by space ravioli
Don't slander the Pierogi
@@personzorz I'm from Pennsylvania so yeah Pierogi!
The promo for the episode was so much more exciting than the actual episode
The episode should have been titled “Second Hand Embarrassment”.
I know.... I'm struggling to watch this haha
So TNG did the Office before even the British Office?
(I did think of Kevin's line "I've got to delete a lot of stuff.")
Fwiw, the ensign in engineering says she gave Brahms access to the holodeck file, saying she didn’t think it would be a problem.
It’s not explicit but it could mean there was a password but the engineer overrode it like a sysadmin might.
The ship’s engine schematics are probably classified, but Brahms would of course have clearance.
The crew decompresses the cargo bay and blows a space raspberry!!
There is only one man who would dare to give me the raspberries... Picardstar! Lonepicard? Wait, am I in the wrong movie??
@@Vulcanerd 😂😂😂
In space, no one can hear a raspberry…
@targetaudience
I'm sad to report that Jeri Taylor passed away earlier today. You've already seen a few of her episodes this season, and there are more to come.
Just be careful because most of the obituaries and write ups contain spoilers for later TNG episodes, as well as other Star Trek franchises that she wrote and produced.
Make her memory be for blessings, RIP. 😢
Sick bay must be tired of all the burn victims sent by Guinan
Guinan serving you a drink with a sick burn chaser.
Worf is never happy unless the mission is going to be a glorious battle that will earn everyone honor!!!
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This episode actually gave you a lot of what you were asking for early on.
Maybe she came around after seeing how defensive he was, but she then checked through all the logs and realised all this was over one kiss. She probably assumed it was much worse.
A good Barclay holodeck fantasy would be him as a shuttle pilot for an elite Starfleet Commando unit.
They could maybe have a top secret mission to rob the Bank of Cardassia Prime, but their headquarters gets blown up, so the wind up on trial for a crime they didn't commit....
Somehow someone has to convince Worf to join in. I pity the petaQ.
@mitcharcher7528 Thats going to be a hard sell for him though.
"I refuse to get into a shuttle craft piloted by that man!"
Easy solution: drug his prune juice.
LOL she said... "I'm married" and then a youtube commercial came in, dude standing in fire... I laughed out loud. Perfectly timed hahaha
My head canon is that Leah got married recently, after the Booby Trap episode.
Leah's husband seems kinda clingy...
Do they have divorces in the 24th century? 🤔
@@MrDeathpilot I actually believe in one of the books, she actually does divorce him and ends up with Geordi. Of course that is non-canon
@@MrDeathpilot You are correct, thank you for calling me out. I edited the spoiler out.
@@MrDeathpilot The theory they're fairly newly married could fit that. They could be in a "honeymoon phase" when they still want to talk all the time.
@@ODSTGeneralYTdidn't he say he and Leah were together in All Good Things?
You give Geodi too little credit by assuming he made other Holodeck programs containing Dr. Brahms. There is nothing to suggest he did, and he was aware of what had happened previously with Lt. Barkley.
It’s not clear he’s even accessed that file since Booby Trap.
no one i knew had internet till 96 or 97 my school was still analogue for a while. I remember in high school calling people and getting dial up. But it was in college when we started doing message boards and youtube.
Early internet was home pages with gifs, midis and s guest book we could read but not talk.
The viewscreen isn't connected to cameras on the outside of the ship or anything like that. It takes sensor readings and renders them as an image, which means it can get pretty much any angle--even a shot of the Enterprise itself.
The shot of the hill. I thought how did they do that too, when the episode was first aired,, I think maybe there is a camera on the worp necell. Or on the necell struts.. 🖖
External sensors floating around the ship totally was a thing on SeaQuest DSV. The titular submarine was surrounded by Wireless Sea Knowledge Retrieval Satellites - pronounced "whiskers".
I always loved the idea of those WISKRS !
I don't like Geordi's reaction to Dr. Brahms' reaction to the holodeck recording. He acted like she was being unreasonable in reacting the way she did, but IMO she was COMPLETELY justified in being as outraged as she was.
He was embarassed, and went into defensive mode.
Yep. He was clearly in the wrong and like Josh and Alex discussed, he went into 'whataboutism' mode out of being caught red-handed and getting defensive. I've seen it irl, too, where a person just has no good reason or rationale for doing what they did and they bring up something else to 'come over the top' and try to out outrage you.
She had the right to be upset but she was overreacting just a bit.
The ending of this episode has always irked me a little. It smacks of "boys will be boys" . If someone nowadays used my image in an AI program for fantasy purposes, it would not be "oh you scallywag!". What Geordi did was completely wrong, and there's no acknowledgment of that. Not an episode I like.
@@Taj_Rahine No she was not.
34:14 in SeaQuest they had 'whiskers' (Wireless Sea Knowledge Retrieval Satellites) floating around outside the ship, to explain all the external shots. In Trek, the computer generates the image - Worf said in Peak Performance, if he fools the sensors, "the computer will project a false image of the enemy ship on the main viewscreen."
I like how the teaser just completely ignores the main plot around LaForge and instead makes it seem like the Enterprise is just fighting an alien.😅
This episode is hit or miss for me, Geordi doesn't really have a leg to stand on trying to paint Dr. Brahms as the bad guy for being mean.
I always saw it more as her just being uncomfortable and trying to keep her distance from someone whose being just too forward in his flirting.
Also I forgot how savage Guinan was in this.😂
The problem is, even before he is being too forward she is mean and insulting. She literally comes off the transporter saying Geordi ruined her work. In fact she seems to warm to Geordi the more time they spend together, which was after he did all the flirting and they had the awkward dinner.
@@ODSTGeneralYT I think I felt she softened because he showed her how competent he was and slowly convinced her his changes were justified. And is also friendly. But I think she thought the dinner with the guitar music was a bit weird and tried to subtly say so.
I believe the outside shot of the hull was from a camera on the warp nacelles. They weren't in shot and the distance and angle could work out...
46:50 - what happened there to the audio? Sounds like the highs got boosted making it sound a bit tinny. On the other hand maybe it was a bit muffled to begin with, but this was overcompensation. Or maybe it's just echo?
Maybe your sound system is going?, Cos it sounded great in 7.1 @my BF's?❤🎉
35:00 Exterior cameras: What job do you think the green Ensign who just reported aboard the Federation Flagship is assigned?? They just stick them in a space suit with a camera and tell them to walk the hull for a few weeks at a time!
In all seriousness though, it's likely there are visual inputs all over the exterior of the ship for full 360 degree by 360 degree coverage. That view shown in the episode probably came from an input mounted somewhere on the starboard warp nacelle.
I believe the images seen on the viewscreen, when not talking over an open hailing frequency are complied from the sensor data the ships systems gather, so they can image any view of the ship the same way they can see objects far away.
I always figured that the image was from a camera on the starboard warp nacelle, with allowances for the filming miniature resulting in a position just slightly off. I do like the idea of a sensor compilation of visible light, which IS essentially a camera but still compiled as is the birds-eye parking view in a Mercedes.
@@Manitsas I'm sure I read it in the TNG technical manual. I always thought it was cool. =A=
LOL you guys had some extra good zingers going!
2:03 - *_"Mecca lecca hi, mecca hiney ho... Your wish is granted! Long live Jambi!"_* 😂😅🤣
10:12 - *Believe it or not, that is a huge complaint/criticism of the show from many viewers: Many say that Worf constantly gets thwarted both by his fellow officers who reject most of his suggestions and advice or gets physically overpowered by other aliens. And while I don't find that to be a problem for the show, I do understand their frustrations as it is based on a basic truth: Just like the Ferengi were made to be a representation of human greed at it's worst, Klingons were made to represent human brutality and warmongering; Klingons embody strength and aggression. So while Worf is a much more balanced "Rōnin" (A samurai without master) archetype character, both his Klingon heritage and his position as Chief of Security/Tactical officer pushes him to advocate for strong stances, shows of force and readiness for battle. On the other hand, Picard and many other officers being explorers "seeking new life and new civilizations" advocate for a more cooperative, peaceful and tactful approach; and since the whole of Roddenberry's vision for humanity's future is a peaceful world and a universe to explore, Worf rarely doesn't get overruled in his in such matters. Unfortunately, he is also represented the strongest biological member of the crew (With only Data, a non-biological, being stronger) and so whenever the show needs to show that an alien species is a real physical threat to the crew: In rushes Worf on the attack only to get backhanded like a fly!*
*So, yes: Worf gets turned down and beaten up a lot on the show... But each time: THAT IS THE POINT! it is to either play devil's advocate with our most base instinct and to make the point that that is what we need to overcome in ourselves (Which is EXACTLY WHY I think "Worf Episodes" are so popular with fans of the series: Because on those episodes, we usually get to see Worf transcends those base "Klingon/Human" instincts and triumph over them... Plus he often **_Kicks-ass_** a lot in those episodes! LOL!)*
14:23 - *Yes: Today it seems ridiculous as everyone knows about "Search Histories" and password protections. But this episode is a little bit a victim of it's time!*
*This episode aired in 1991 (And the internet didn't really become popular until 1994-95): Back then, many people hadn't even touched a computer yet (Many had, but many also had not!), many didn't know what a Logon name was an thought "A password" was what Aladdin used to open a cave! (I'm exaggerating a little... But only a little!). So such security concepts were barely in the ethos at the time; but I will also concede that it suited the plot for there to not be any security measure on the Holodeck. Now we HAVE seen security measures on the bridge and in engineering before, but those ARE indeed sensitive areas of the ship while the Holodeck is suppose to be a communal entertainment area accessible to all the public (Same as the gyms and other "game rooms"), so inappropriate programs should not run on it (And to an extend, probably would not; don't think anyone could run a XXX-rated program in there without the senior staff getting an alert... **_Not without the help of a Ferengi, at least!_** IYKYK 😅) Plus, as it as also been shown in previous episodes, the society humans live in the 24th century (And even more so with Starfleet Officers) are disciplined and would not make such transgressions; which is why Barclay's programs in the first episode when we met him, even if not outright over the line, were such a shock to the senior staff.*
*So yes: All reactors seeing such episodes and lack of security protocols have the same reaction (Kind of in the same way that reactors watching the 1983 movie Wargames are flabbergasted that the school admin write their computer passwords on a piece of paper glued to a desk! But that is precisely because the first people who dealt with computers in those days use to do this that today everyone has been **_drilled_** into NOT doing that!)*
I have always loved this episode, mostly because I love the design of the alien entity.
just a nerdy knowledge in reference to "how did they get that view", the images shown on the viewscreen of space are not exactly the same as a camera lenses, they are basically images created by the sensors of the ship of what it scans outside of it, that is why get perfect views of other ships and can view the hull of your own ship from a external view, it is also why some cloaking devices dont make the ship go invisible but instead jam the sensors to the point that it wont produce a image or register on consoles
RIP Jeri Taylor
Special note on how the viewscreen works. There are no cameras on the Enterprise. The "screen" projects a holographic three-dimensional image based on sensor data. Essentially, it creates a visual representation of whatever data they have available on the scanned area or object.
This is most notable in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. While tracking the whales near the end of the film Uhura finds them via their tracking frequency in order to get their location. She gives a heading and Kirk requests that it be put on the viewscreen. At that point Dr. Taylor asks how he can do that and soon after an image of the whales appears on the screen as though it were being seen from a drone or helicopter. Sensors scanned the area mentioned by Uhura and projected an image based on the acquired data. It's a blink and you miss it moment, but it pretty much sums up how the viewscreen does its job.
This also explains why communications with other ships is also in 3D. They're not getting a camera feed, but a scan of the other ship's bridge being projected onto the viewscreen. Interestingly enough, games like Star Trek Bridge Commander maintained this within its code so if you moved your head while someone was on the viewscreen you could trick the camera to see them in 3 dimensions. It's not a flat projection.
The Space Pierogi episode.
Ratings talk - 'B' for the Guinan Burn on Geordi.
To me, Guinan is a supreme example of less being more. We're given just enough of her to enjoy her performances and character, but wanting just a bit more each time. But, if we did get more, I don't know that it would have worked as well.
Always keep them guessing. Mystery makes characters good. If this series was done now, they would explain a full backstory of Guinan and ruined the entire character.
The camera shot of the back of the ship looks like it came from a forward camera mounted on the right warp nacelle.
Gotta say, I'm genuinely surprised yall ranked this one Banger. Glad yall enjoyed it!
Same. The Gallifrey Gals were so triggered and pissed off, that they completely edited out all the Geordi-Leah scenes from their youtube reaction.
@@Raja1938 They seem pretty sensitive on relationship abuse/cringe issues. I do give them respect for being very even on that. They were very offended by the Riker sub-plot in "First Contact" and other eps they felt were "female on male" abuse.
@@ThomasReeves-s7u Yep, and they absolutely hated "Space Seed" as well.
You need a sign to hang in the background that lets you count the times Worf was right but ignored.
I don't think anyone can count that high 😅
On the holodeck replaying something: Sometimes my UA-cam videos replay a few seconds after an ad break, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities that the programme might replay the last couple of minutes to get the user back into the mind-frame of what happened before.
I don't quite get how people transfer dislike of Geordie's behaviour to dislike about the episode.
They want to identify as Riker, but in their heart know they're Geordi
I've been struggling with this too, and I can only surmise they feel that it isn't "true" to Geordi's character. I disagree, this episode shows a realistic human reaction on both sides, and it seems to me to be inline with Geordi's intelligent but not necessarily great socially character. We can certainly agree as a human his reaction was cringe, but why does that make the episode bad?
@@topomusicale5580 I think the episode has a good balance of showing actual character flaws while still evoking sympathy for the guy.
My understanding is some feel, Guinan's criticism aside, the episode is kind of siding with Geordi's behavior or at least indicating it's not a bigger deal than Brahms being rude earlier. And that doesn't play well now at least.
@@ThomasReeves-s7u Thanks for that, maybe they would have liked it better if he was chastised for his reaction?
The weird part is is in the TNG technical manual, there is smaller personal holodex that are in some of the quarters. Which I guess would be the modern equivalent of a home theater. However, since Jordy was using a lot more of computer power to generate that simulation for the engines... Maybe he just never put a password on it or never deleted it? Or perhaps the main holodecks like that can't be password protected? I don't know. I need to reread that section
The viewscreen shot was taken from a camera on the right warp nacelle. Did you forget about the warp nacelles?
I always wondered why the holodeck chose to make Dr. Brahms kinda flirty: "Here, let me give you a shoulder massage." Somebody, somewhere programmed that in to the holodeck program, I guess because it was built to enable fantasies? I'd think there ought to be rules about likenesses of real people, though.
The Trek viewscreen doesn't need cameras, they just pluck images from the ether somehow..... :)
Remember in ST 4 (Voyage Home) when they have the whaling ship on the viewscreen 10 mins before they get anywhere near it and 20th century girl is amazed they can do that.
Like many sci-fi technologies, I think the viewscreen is powered by convenience crystals.
You can run all kinds of powerful plot devices on convenience crystals.
Regarding the rear view of the hull, I always figured the camera was on the nacelle or even just the rear of the stardrive section, even if the angle doesn't /quite/ line up.
That or a drone's live shot. Would make sense that a ship would have them.
Back when you asked about holodecks , I had this episode as an answer
I like to think that LaForge was using the holodeck as a work thing so this program was filed under "work stuff" and the creepy stuff sort of evolved unintentionally. There are probably zillions of little programs here and there for simulation and diagnostic purposes, he probably figured nobody would ever look at that one. Needle in a haystack, and not filed away as a personal thing.
The view screen views of ship exterior are always meant to be from other points of the ship - but logistically not always practical to create, especially when they are already straining the FX budget - in this case to get the proper lower angle from a camera on the warp nacelle, they would have had to chop off part of the model to fit the filming camera… that + budget is why you get a recycled plate of the ship to work with.
6:15 the Space Dumpling is attacking
I looked up the writing credits on this episode and found the teleplay was written by Maurice Hurley, the former producer who was responsible for Gates McFadden's absence from the show in Season 2. According to McFadden, she had raised some concerns about the content in general and her character in particular. Specifically, she thought the episode "Angel One" was sexist and that Dr. Crusher shouldn't tell Wesley to shut up. As a result, Hurley deemed her "difficult to work with" and, when he became showrunner in season 2, didn't ask her back. The character of Dr. Crusher might not have come back except that Hurley was replaced by Michael Piller and fans wrote letters on McFadden's behalf, asking for Dr. Crusher to be reinstated.
When you know all that, Geordi's attitude toward Dr. Brahms, and the general tone of the episode, start to make a lot more sense.
Again, Miles Edward O'Brien has more rizz than all the main characters combined.
This is like THE Geordi episode in my mind. But I agree the whole resolution felt really off. Like his argument was basically "well sure I caught feelings for a fantasy hologram I made of you, but it was a *workplace* fantasy hologram, so it should be fine, right?"
Geordi having feelings for her isn't what she was having an problem with. That's why she's okay with it later on when she learns that he got attached to her hologram. Instead, the issue was that she thought he created the hologram as some pervy way to satisfy his desires. Geordi didn't do that, he really was trying to solve the issue with the ship, and the ship's computer is what gave her her lines and personality, including the "...touching me." line.
*Edit:* She wasn't justified in how she reacted because she was reacting based on a misunderstanding. He wasn't just using her hologram to perv on, and he didn't program her to be all sexy and treat him like a lover; instead, he was using her program to try to solve a potentially lethal situation, and the computer made her hologram be a little spicy with him.
Nah, he's a creep in this episode.
@@Lincynity1 Well, that may be. I don't know. I didn't really see anything creepy. However, if you reread what I wrote, I'm not talking about him doing anything creepy in this episode or not; instead, I'm talking about whether he did anything creepy merely by creating a hologram of her to solve the Enterprise's issues. She's upset because she thinks that he created her hologram to sleep with her, or something (which is why she asks if he created one for every day or every mood he had). She thought that he created a hologram of her to fantasize about, like Barclay. He didn't.
*Edit:* I forgot to mention, that's why she doesn't care when he admitted he got attached to her. She even laughs about it. She realized that he was not trying to be pervy with her hologram, but to solve a deadly situation, which was the misimpression she had that led her to being so upset.
@@Lincynity1 The only sense in which he's a creep is in trying to spark things with Brahms early on. He should've simply been upfront that he'd studied her work and public speeches, instead of making it seem like he magically knew her interests and work record.
I think the holodeck thing is pretty innocent and him explaining it was fine. But then he goes too far saying "the only thing I did wrong is try to be your friend", or whatever, which is largely dishonest (I don't think you go to the kind of efforts for dinner he did if you merely want to hang out with someone. I mean Geordi has been shown to sleep in his uniform, but here he changes clothes and gets light guitar ready?) and it feels like he's trying to guilt her for a pretty understandable misunderstanding.
@@ThomasReeves-s7u Yeah, this is pretty much the same take I have, and I think it's a good one. I just also think that a misunderstanding, although understandable, doesn't justify such a reaction as she had. She was accusing him of being a skeevy perv. in doing what he did with the hologram.
Just to clarify my position, and I'm not saying that you are claiming this of me, I'm not saying the Geordi did nothing wrong; rather, I'm just saying that her reaction was overblown, based on a misunderstanding, and--therefore--not justified. Geordi did act a bit unethical in this episode, in my opinion, and he should have just been honest with her. His line, "the only thing I did wrong is try to be your friend", was--for that reason--a terrible one. I think, though, this is that earlier Star Trek way of writing characters that often has them being overly dramatic. Also, it could actually be an intentional tip-off to the audience that Geordi did act wrongly, cleverly devised to make us examine his actions to see if they accord with his statement.
"The internet" as we know it basically started in 1993. Prior to that, it was just bulletin boards and file transfer sites. ARPAnet tied several universities together going back as far as 1968, but it only had email and file transfer functions.
I was using the internet in the eightys in the Air Force for aircraft maintenance records. It wasn't made publicly available until 93. It hadn't changed much by 93. It was still quite rudimentary compared to today.
im pretty sure the entire exterior is fitted with cameras. the view we saw would have most likely been from the starboard nacel
It looked to me like the view from a sensor on the starboard nacelle.
Also, love the thumbnail swerve. Good job, fellas 🤌
K.P.H. = Kilometers Per Hour. It's a measurement of impulse Power, or Sub-Light ingines.
Looks like the purrgil hyperspace galaxy jumping includes the ol' Milky Way.
Going to warp would not remove the alien. Warp drive does not work by transferring propulsive force through the structure of the ship, like the impulse drive does. Warp drive creates a bubble of space, and everything in the bubble is moved because the warp drive moves the bubble. This is why the saucer can separate at warp speeds and still be at warp, like in encounter at far point or what they almost did in Brothers. When the saucer exited the warp bubble, it then came back to sub-light speeds. The saucer of a galaxy class does not have warp propulsion, only impulse.
So junior was attached to the back of the interconnecting dorsal, where it would have been firmly within the warp bubble, and stayed with the ship.
As for seeing the back of the ship, I think the idea was the camera was mounted to the starboard nacelle, that's why it shown from the side. But we musn't assume their visuals are only capable of showing us views from a single optical camera. They probably have great sensor fusion in the future, I mean, the view screen is itself a holographic viewer. It can probably synthesize a holographic view of the back of the ship using any number of external sensors of varying types, and combine it together for a 'god mode' just like our video games can. Probably most of our “on screen” visuals are not a single camera, but a wide variety of sensor data synthesized into a visual approximation. Why else would the nebula prevent us from seeing as clearly in wrath of Kahn? (Well, I mean, you could argue it’s high energy protons hitting the camera sensors)
There's absolutely ZERO defending Geordi here. He's a stalker and is creeping HARD on this woman. What's worse, the writers had HER apologize at the end! WTF, TNG?!?
I actually prefer the B-plot to this one...though every time the Enterprise encounters a spaceborn life form, they act like they've never seen such a thing before - except they have, in Tin Man and the vert first TNG episode...
*"It created"*, Geordi's reframing is worthy of a Romulan - perhaps Galorndon Core had a lasting effect?
If I remember the episode correctly, Holo-Brahms was automatically included when the computer replicated the shipyards?
@@rocco3381 The base model, sure, but then our plucky engineer went to work a-tinkering :) It's why I didn't say it was a lie but it is certainly choosing a singular aspect that removes his input from the process!
DATA: There is a new concentration of ionizing radiation growing in the center of it's body.
PICARD: Photon torpedoes, full spread!
I think they use sensors and its computed image. Or a gopro on the nacelle. Whorf has been on more episodes than anyone else in Star Trek
The aft views of the ship: The Enterprise could have a series of predefined positions around the hull where mirrors can materialize as needed. Using the transporter’s precision, the mirrors could be instantly generated at these locations based on the crew’s requirements-such as monitoring specific parts of the hull, investigating external anomalies, or checking for damage. Using advanced optics, the exterior cameras would zoom to the mirror and horizontally flip the image to protect a real-time image of any portion of the ship exterior.
I'm pretty sure it's just on from a camera on the front of one of the nacelles
Then how would they get the vid of the ship jumping to warp? This hypothesis explains every exterior shot of the ship portrayed in the show
@@personzorz Keep in mind the nacelles are a lot lower, so that camera would need to be incredibly high up to be able to get that shot. It also wouldn't account for other shots and angles through out the show.
The mirrors are an interesting idea, one I wouldn't have thought of. Though I don't think that would work if the ship is moving. My guess is the computer takes data from the sensors and converts it to a close estimation of the image based on that information.
Those "meat pie" aliens are hilarious.
The scene that needed to be in
Geordie at his engineering station: Computer, delete holodeck program Brahms1...
Computer voice: That program is currently in use
Geordie: Who the HELL is acessing my program
Computer: Program is being used by Dr Leah Brahms
Cut to Geordie running full sprint past Deanna in the corridor screaming "GET THE F*** OUT OF MY WAY !!!"
😂🤣😂🤣😂😅😂
Oh... oh no! Geordie!
Guinan never goes easy on Geordi she always keeps it real with him 😅
I'm glad Alex and Josh aren't really fighting behind the scenes.
I'm really loving the score reveals. Every time, I find myself guessing what you guys are going to give a show. I thought this might be a double A for A/B for you guys b/c you seemed to enjoy the episode (and, to be fair, B is not a bad grade for you guys). It was definitely an enjoyable B for me, too.