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Got invited into the cab of the 601 years ago by an engineer friend of mine. Even sitting there at idle, the whole cab was vibrating from the brute force of the prime mover behind me. He notched it up a couple while in neutral; I'll only say that my butt and back got a thorough "massage" from the earthquake vibrations that resulted. I could almost hear Emperor Palpatine screaming "unlimited POWER!"
GOD PLEASE SAVE THOSE 3 REMAINING AC6000s!!!!!! The AC600's series locomotives are my favorites and I even used to see them pull trains in Georgia when I was a kid. Would really suck to see all of CSX's ones go down the drain.
Hi Kiddo! Great railfanning "history " video. I remember like it was just yesterday that my brother-in-law was working on those 6000 hp engines at the GE Grove City plant. I remember him telling me that the piston rods kept breaking. That German outfit didn't have that critical piece figured out right. I was taken back by those clips showing the rail damage. Looked like the drive wheels were cutting right thru the tracks. Good job.
Great Episode! Although they weren’t the best performing units originally, the AC6000s were still a vital part of CSX’s roster and are one of the only GE locomotive classes I actually like.
Just an interesting note, sometime in the 2010s CSX swapped all the engines in the AC6000s for 16-cylinder GEVO prime movers, which were capable of I believe 5,800 HP, but CSX set them at 4,600. Some units were also equipped with the High Tractive Effort systems, and CSX reclassified them as CW46AC and CW46AH. The 7 units active on the WNYP still have these engines and are still rated at 4600. The 600-602 were the unique case, as these were originally pre-production units and they got their engines swapped out with 7FDL prime movers, the same ones in the AC44, and essentially were now AC44s. These three units only got classified as CW44AC and it’s likely why they are the only three that CSX still owns. At some point 699 was classified as a CW44-6 and I honestly don’t know what that was all about but it later became a CW46AH. But anyway this was a great video and can’t wait for more
The 16 cylinder GEVOs were also rated at 6,250 HP for North American service. GE also sold a number of the units to China, where the were rated at 5,800 HP on the 18,000 foot elevation Tibetan Plateau. It is rather impressive these engines only lost 200 HP at 18,000 feet elevation! At the end of their 20 year service life on CSX, they were electronically de-rated to 4600 HP tp match the AC44 fleet. The units sold off could be re-rated to 6250 HP, but I have no idea if their new owners see any need to do that.
Nice bro, can't wait for the next episode since you take your time of making these type of vids. Also 616 had a sticker honoring the Seaboard Air Lines and believe the only CW60AC had a sticker
Nice coverage on the 6K GE loco. As a conductor looking at the in cab display it was incredible to watch how fast the HP ramped up at run eight no matter what we where pulling.
I really enjoyed this video it's because this locomotive the WC 6000 CW this was my all-time Favorite locomotive from GE this is and always a special locomotive to me it was known that only 3 Railroads that owned the locos and they were CSX and SP and UP and that's it
Southern Pacific had three AC6000CW's on order (600,601,& 602) but they weren't delivered from GE. By the time assembling was completed Union Pacific took over and changed the orders to repaint the units. Those AC6000CW's never made it into freight service but did retain the specific ditchlight displacement per Southern Pacific standards.
Of note, some say the AC6000’s were derated twice. The 7HDL is rumored to have made 6,250 gross HP. When they were repowered with Gevo-16s, that number was dropped to 6,000 Gross HP and later further derated to 4400 GHP. All the units on the WNYP have the GEVO prime movers and some Evolution Series Electronics, and I believe CSX 600-602 have 7FDL-16’s like your common AC44CW does. Also, that unit, 5006 that had its traction motor’s replaced lives on the WNYP as #6004. Just a lil extra trivia for ya
UP has now finished rebuilding all of them, but they still have their iconic AC6000 radiator and some still have their original cab. Some newer rebuilds have had their cab replaced though
Union Pacific rebuilt most if not all of their AC6000CW's into C44ACM's a long time ago,not recently.The 7HDL's were removed with newer 7FDL's for EPA compliance and better reliability among newer electronics.At most the cabs have different numberboards but everything else is exactly the same including the ditchlight displacement.There is one particular C44ACM (7312) on their roster which has a Norfolk Southern wide cab on it.Instead of the headlight in the middle of the nose,it's on the cab between where the numberboards would be.It was wrecked on Norfolk Southern trackage twenty years ago and Union Pacific forced them to do repairs on the unit.
@@Slim_Slid They had their prime movers replaced a while ago, but they were only fully rebuilt to modernized C44ACMs in the last few years. The older convertible units were rebuilt first a few years ago and then the units originally built with the 6000 HP prime movers and later downrated were rebuilt more recently, only in the last year or two. The older rebuilds kept their original cabs with original numberboard placement while the new ones have brand new cabs with high numberboards.
@@Slim_Slid You said they were rebuilt to C44ACMs a long time ago, they were only rebuilt recently. The engine replacement and rebuilds were two seperate things
WNYPs AC6000s are almost over they got a train going out today with 4 of them to bring back to prlx they are keeping the other 4 for awhile but it’s not sure how long those will stay around
It's a shame they changed the number of the CSX- cw60ac, #666, because in ww2 it was the number of a famous super upgunned B17 bomber, she was a brute too! It would have been a good tribute to that ww2 bomber.
600 & 601 are at Waycross GA, and 602 at Huntington WV, for anyone who is curious :)
I seen 602 in Huntington, also do you remember me from discord? :)
*as of now they are resting in storage but I suggest they should get rebuilt into CM60AC just like the ac44cw rebuild butt bigger!*
I doubt csx would create an entirely new rebuild program for just 3 engines. When their time comes, they will most likely be sold or scrapped.
Hey @buckanear railfaning for your nest episode can you do the ET44AC or C-30-7
There’s been possible rumors that the CSX AC6000CWs (600-602) would be restored
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I love how the SD90MAC looks surprised and raising its eyebrows and respectively because you called it a failure 😂
I'm glad 602 has been preserved, the fact that they could rip trains in half, damage rails, and rip cars apart etc is absolute bad ass.
This was probably caused by not having any anti wheel slip software/ devices on the locomotive. If this was fitted then it didn't do its job.
Incredible episode, and especially great job with the editing by lining everything up with the music.
Thanks a ton!
Got invited into the cab of the 601 years ago by an engineer friend of mine. Even sitting there at idle, the whole cab was vibrating from the brute force of the prime mover behind me. He notched it up a couple while in neutral; I'll only say that my butt and back got a thorough "massage" from the earthquake vibrations that resulted. I could almost hear Emperor Palpatine screaming "unlimited POWER!"
GOD PLEASE SAVE THOSE 3 REMAINING AC6000s!!!!!! The AC600's series locomotives are my favorites and I even used to see them pull trains in Georgia when I was a kid. Would really suck to see all of CSX's ones go down the drain.
Hi Kiddo! Great railfanning "history " video. I remember like it was just yesterday that my brother-in-law was working on those 6000 hp engines at the GE Grove City plant. I remember him telling me that the piston rods kept breaking. That German outfit didn't have that critical piece figured out right. I was taken back by those clips showing the rail damage. Looked like the drive wheels were cutting right thru the tracks. Good job.
Glad you enjoyed it
the AC6000 is the chad of General Electric
I really love this unit. While it's quite underrated. Once you hear about it. You cannot forget it.
Thanks for inviting me for the collab!
Glad we could collab! Hope we can work on more projects in the future!
@buccaneerrailfanning1776 Fact: #671s traction motors and #5006s traction motors were replaced by RJ Corman, the derailment specialists! 😂😅
I like how the yn2 paint looks on them along with the way the radiator is like
Great Episode! Although they weren’t the best performing units originally, the AC6000s were still a vital part of CSX’s roster and are one of the only GE locomotive classes I actually like.
45 units on one train is wild 😂
Just an interesting note, sometime in the 2010s CSX swapped all the engines in the AC6000s for 16-cylinder GEVO prime movers, which were capable of I believe 5,800 HP, but CSX set them at 4,600. Some units were also equipped with the High Tractive Effort systems, and CSX reclassified them as CW46AC and CW46AH. The 7 units active on the WNYP still have these engines and are still rated at 4600. The 600-602 were the unique case, as these were originally pre-production units and they got their engines swapped out with 7FDL prime movers, the same ones in the AC44, and essentially were now AC44s. These three units only got classified as CW44AC and it’s likely why they are the only three that CSX still owns. At some point 699 was classified as a CW44-6 and I honestly don’t know what that was all about but it later became a CW46AH. But anyway this was a great video and can’t wait for more
The 16 cylinder GEVOs were also rated at 6,250 HP for North American service. GE also sold a number of the units to China, where the were rated at 5,800 HP on the 18,000 foot elevation Tibetan Plateau. It is rather impressive these engines only lost 200 HP at 18,000 feet elevation! At the end of their 20 year service life on CSX, they were electronically de-rated to 4600 HP tp match the AC44 fleet. The units sold off could be re-rated to 6250 HP, but I have no idea if their new owners see any need to do that.
Nice bro, can't wait for the next episode since you take your time of making these type of vids. Also 616 had a sticker honoring the Seaboard Air Lines and believe the only CW60AC had a sticker
Nice coverage on the 6K GE loco.
As a conductor looking at the in cab display it was
incredible to watch how fast the HP ramped up at run eight
no matter what we where pulling.
Did the AC6000CWs have anti wheelslip software/ devices fitted?
I really enjoyed this video it's because this locomotive the WC 6000 CW this was my all-time Favorite locomotive from GE this is and always a special locomotive to me it was known that only 3 Railroads that owned the locos and they were CSX and SP and UP and that's it
Thank you very much!
Southern Pacific had three AC6000CW's on order (600,601,& 602) but they weren't delivered from GE. By the time assembling was completed Union Pacific took over and changed the orders to repaint the units. Those AC6000CW's never made it into freight service but did retain the specific ditchlight displacement per Southern Pacific standards.
@@Slim_SlidSo what happened to those three units please?
Of note, some say the AC6000’s were derated twice. The 7HDL is rumored to have made 6,250 gross HP. When they were repowered with Gevo-16s, that number was dropped to 6,000 Gross HP and later further derated to 4400 GHP. All the units on the WNYP have the GEVO prime movers and some Evolution Series Electronics, and I believe CSX 600-602 have 7FDL-16’s like your common AC44CW does. Also, that unit, 5006 that had its traction motor’s replaced lives on the WNYP as #6004. Just a lil extra trivia for ya
Cool video, great job!
Holy crap.
Wicked video !!🇺🇸
This is another CSX engine I will be getting for my CSX EK sub layout and will be used for mainline power
That’s awesome, I wish I could be in the video
UP still has these 6000s, although they are called AC4460CW
And they're being rebuilt into C44ACMs
UP has now finished rebuilding all of them, but they still have their iconic AC6000 radiator and some still have their original cab. Some newer rebuilds have had their cab replaced though
Union Pacific rebuilt most if not all of their AC6000CW's into C44ACM's a long time ago,not recently.The 7HDL's were removed with newer 7FDL's for EPA compliance and better reliability among newer electronics.At most the cabs have different numberboards but everything else is exactly the same including the ditchlight displacement.There is one particular C44ACM (7312) on their roster which has a Norfolk Southern wide cab on it.Instead of the headlight in the middle of the nose,it's on the cab between where the numberboards would be.It was wrecked on Norfolk Southern trackage twenty years ago and Union Pacific forced them to do repairs on the unit.
@@Slim_Slid They had their prime movers replaced a while ago, but they were only fully rebuilt to modernized C44ACMs in the last few years. The older convertible units were rebuilt first a few years ago and then the units originally built with the 6000 HP prime movers and later downrated were rebuilt more recently, only in the last year or two. The older rebuilds kept their original cabs with original numberboard placement while the new ones have brand new cabs with high numberboards.
@@yeahman70
Thanks for literally repeating what I just mentioned and what I already know.
@@Slim_Slid You said they were rebuilt to C44ACMs a long time ago, they were only rebuilt recently. The engine replacement and rebuilds were two seperate things
*I suggest you should do the gp38-2 or the gp40-2 next!*
7:09 *monster k5H!!*
Love the K5H horns these things had.
they had some really nice NF K5LA's as well
Very nice 👍
I hope they'll bring AC60CW back into the Roster. Sure missed them when I first saw them on the abbeville sub back when we moved to ga in 1996
Nice Video
They are nice locomotive's
That intro was the goat
1:43 XD
Also do the SD40-2 next but remember to include 8888
I think he told me we would be doing SD60Is and Ms hopefully
I'm thinking should we do a poll?
I see a variety of locomotives in the comments like EMD's SD60Ms and SD60Is, Standard Cab GE C40-8
WNYPs AC6000s are almost over they got a train going out today with 4 of them to bring back to prlx they are keeping the other 4 for awhile but it’s not sure how long those will stay around
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I hate to ask but what is the music in the beginning of this video?
C40-8s the stranded cabs
Maybe the CSX ES40DC Units i like those engines that are GEVO class.💯👍
Already done an episode on the ES44s
Can you make a et44ah locomotive video please!
I was told by several engineers that these things were complete junk
ITS TIME.
The Ac6000cw due to it's high horsepower rating is giving him reliability issue, and consuming too much fuel
Were some of those had their engines replaced with GEVO-16 at some point?
SD40-2
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Did these locomotives had wide font or narrow font k5la horns?
you should do either the SD40-2 or the SD60 next
SD60M and SD60I would be so nice
If we can't have a diesel that can withstand 6000 HP, maybe we could have a battery-powered locomotive that can.
Horrible idea
A geep 30 with batteries is not even allowed to interchange ithout an fra waiver for its weight.They are all junk and overweight
@@trains2057 I meant that the idea of having BATTERY POWERED LOCOMOTIVE is horrible
crazy i have probly everyone in my videos up in Canaan NY hauling garbage 👍
SD45-2
It's a shame they changed the number of the CSX- cw60ac, #666, because in ww2 it was the number of a famous super upgunned B17 bomber, she was a brute too! It would have been a good tribute to that ww2 bomber.
You should do a video on the sw and mp series emd switchers
You should do a video of Csx ET44AH
The ac6000 is him
5:18 honestly thats not what the 7hdl-16 looks like
And not to worry the only remaining operator of this unique unit is up, still keeping them on their roster.
Best image I could get lol
Heyy awesome video!! Can we do the SD60Ms and I's as the next engines of csx
Maybe!
@@buccaneerrailfanning1776 woohoo I'm excited
@@buccaneerrailfanning1776 I'll help you with some stuff if you would like
Is 6000 and 6002
Sd40-2 or gp38-2
Do the C30-7
What is the song in the intro?
Nvm I found it
Where is CSX locomotive #666
It is mentioned in this video
It became PRLX 656