Big Turbo 1.8t Build (Road to 450whp+)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- My plan for my GTX3582R big turbo b5 Audi A4 Quattro full build break down. Hopefully this is helpful to anyone doing the same or similar! Audi/VW 1.8t Builders enjoy. I am also in the process of doing an me7.5 / dbw / wideband conversion swap, on my AEB. Converting to a harness and ECU from an 01 AWM. Will add all links to everything in the video soon.
GAUGES:
www.maperforma...
www.maperforma...
FUEL PUMP:
www.maperforma...
PISTON RINGS:
www.urotuning....
TURBO:
www.pulsarturb...
EXHAUST VALVES:
www.urotuning....
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thanks💯 welcome to the journey, lots coming
I'm also working on a parts list for our 1.8 big turbo. I still have lots to learn. Glad to have found your channel. Keep us posted. I follow Pinche Al's garage and CO motorsports. Now this channel.
Thanks for posting.
Appreciate it, working hard. Will start videos up more when I get to the reassembly point ! Soon!
The channel you have created is appreciated for the euro tuning vehicle for the competition out there. I have subscribed. I will be tuned in.!
Smart decision to save money on the exhaust manifold and put the money towards the engine internals.
Looking good about to drop my built 1.8t into a GLI with a gt30
That’ll be sweet, best of luck 🤙🏼
nice to see somebody else with a pulsar turbo setup =D i went with thier 4849g (g25-550) for my 1.8t stroker
Hey buddy. Does pulsar have a g25-550 variant in the 4849g?
Just started working on mine. Never owned a german car or a 1.8t. Im going to go with the same turbo you have.
two things I would've changed up, connecting rod company, and ARP head "studs" instead of one time use head bolts. Only because you may have to be in the engine again at some point and why worry about spending again on stretch bolts.
Nice build dude, subscribed to see the result! I drive a B6 1.8tq myself, starting to do my first upgrades now. Not aiming for such crazy power though, lol.
Thank you!! Just got my engine back so hoping for first start up soon 🤙🏼 it’s coming along
Nice build, look forward to seeing it run.
I would of went the IE rods for sure though. 👍
Thanks me too! Getting closer, and yeah I’ve thought about it but the machine shop already has the rods and checked all the specs they turned out good🙏🏻 now it’s just to see how they’ll hold up
@@Luke100mph awesome, the tuner could compensate for them by setting a smooth gradual curve on power so they don't get stressed at low rpm.
I recently scored a mint condition b5 off an older lady that couldn't drive any more due to medical conditions. Just received my new eliminator turbo kit from ECS and can't wait to put it all together. It's the Australian AJL 180hp version with the high flow ports.
Amazing stuff! Currently working on my AEB head build looking into the intake manifold. Can you please drop the links to the parts you used for the custom plenum on the manifold 🙏🏼
Wish you all the best w/this. I was north of $10K on my 1.8 stroker. How you say? I used a FullRace exhaust manifold = $1200, $900 I.E. intake, $1500 United Motorsport stage 5 tune w/ a ProMAF air intake, plus, plus, plus. It adds up. I was not skimping, all braided lines, etc. I DEF could’ve cut some corners but…. Oh well. Good luck, your turbo seems a little big IMO, long spool up time and I’d’ve used a 44mm WG. I went w/ Garrett Gen2 3071R, MAD spool comes in @ 3500rpm’s. I got 870cc injectors on pump gas, E85 not abundant where I live(CT). I did 2.0FSI Stroker crank and a set of Schlick cams too, have yet to Dyno but my goal was @400HP and everyone telling me it’s closer to 450-500. It’s a daily driver for work so I didn’t want to go crazy. Using a GrimmSpeed MBC at around 15psi boost. SouthBend Stage 2 Endurance clutch w/ a set of Raxles on TOYO R888’s tires and hang on for life! Lol
are you still 5 speed? i wouldnt think the 5 speed could handle this and would need a 01e or 0a3 (v8 s4) trans swap.
Update: I’ve spent probably another $1,800 since this video. But just got my cyl head and block back so starting assembly this week 👍🏻
That’s awesome!! I’m super excited for you and to watch your build. I just subscribed.
nice choice of parts man, i did a budget style build like yours with similar parts on my b5 and 450 was my original goal and now im past 600.
uro tuning sells a rebuild kit that comes with grant rings(i didnt gap my rings either) and glyco bearings, it used to be 150 but is $200 now. im using that kit and eagle rods. i had the atw block luckily so i have 058 block (20mm wrist pins) swapped to a built aeb head with exaust valves, springs and retainers, converted to wideband ecu and added vvt. treadstone tr11 fmic precision 5858 bb .82 hood dump t3 emusa manifold. stock cams and pistons. manual timing belt tensioner arp head studs and arp crank and cam gear bolts. rr stage 4 full face with braided ss slave line. id1000cc with walbro 450 and 2.7t fpr. e85 at 27 psi 640whp 560wtq
My bad, I was on my fiancee account. I logged into my account just now. The comment from Taylor is actually from me. I also used hockey pucks for motor mounts and for a snub mount. I plan on making some videos of my car, I'm trying to decide if I have the free time to make a channel for it. But like I said, it started out as a budget build and went further then i thought it would. I seen 1.8hoopt reach 600hp so i had to go further then them. Ill have to review my build beeing that im done with tuning now.
@@tylerdunne6745 nice!! Why the need to go wideband and vvt?
@@taylorbrown8719 build sounds just like mine! wow that power is wicked!! I just got done adding my VVT yesterday. My plan with my tuner was to go e85 and 28psi. Who tuned your car?!
I’m also going to build and big turbo my AEB Quattro. My tuner says that I don’t need to swap to DBW. I’m currently running Eurodyne Maestro 440cc file because I’m on stock motor and turbo for now.
I didn't hear how much you only paid for the car. These are great engines. one of the best engines under 2.0 cc.
I paid under $280 for the car itself 🤫🤫
@@Luke100mph sounds like it fell off the back of a truck
@@easycomeeasygo8901 Car had no title when purchased, I was able to acquire one for it tho 👍🏻
New turbo and better intake valves and springs decent map decat and intacooler there’s your 450whp
dude ill start posting videos but i am literally doing the same build, i have roughly funnily enough almost all the same parts but ive been putting it away almost giving up on it but gonna get started again in the next few weeks
keep it up🤙🏼 what’s your power goals with it?
@@Luke100mph 450+ wheel. it started off as super budget then I got carried away and was going the religiously everything perfect route for a bit the whole catcams, full supertech valvetrain but now I’m back to budget shooting for 450+
@@tauheed9269 heck yeah, mine was also supposed to be budget but that never works out! pay to play 😅🤙🏼
@@Luke100mph I know dude but honestly if I could go back I’d save myself from losing so much time and money if I planned the build to my budget instead of making my budget fit the build if that makes sense. Because that led me to almost give up. Also bro if you find a good tuner could you let me know? I’ll drop you my ig?
@@tauheed9269 yeah get that, I had to sell some of my other toys to fund this build part way through. And I definitely know some good tuners, what’s your insta
good video, show the parts instead of just boxes. thanks!
Thats about my goal too. More is welcome of course. Initial goal was 500awhp. But 93 fuel ultimately is my restriction. What fuel will u be using. So far its super cheap!!! I admit i didnt watch 100% of video. But i assume 180 in exhaust gets you straight pipe out the side at the most?
These cars can make power. I was 411awhp at 26psi 93 fuel on mustang dyno. But this isnt a honda or mustang. So in other words its expensive, lol. Machine work is expensive too. Im 1.8 stroker now. No running yet. Hopefully in a month or two.
Straight out the hood, planning for 28psi on e85 to start. And that’s solid power for sure I bet it was fun! You’ll make 500whp+ easy going stroker🤙🏼🤙🏼
You using the 01a 5 speed?
@@Luke100mph it was alot of fun 👍, car is a hell of a surprise to others. But you crave more, lol. Only reason i did the stroker was because i have a coolant pressure issue since i got the car. And finally the block cracked. So you gotta rebuild better u know, lol.
Im hoping power will come in sooner this time. I bought ALOT from RR. He said 450 to 500awhp. 93 fuel has its limits and this is a daily, so no e85. But u should definitely get your power on e85.
I have a 01E 6spd
What’s ur build list? 😍😍😍 I’m trying to just push 20psi on pump. Are you using water/meth injection at all?
@ziggyortiz37 im not a vw builder specialist. Id contact someone like ringer racing or IE with goals. With "just" 20 psi, im assuming upgraded turbo, at least ko4, which honestly if your spending the money go bigger. Id say this. No need for cams or intake manifold. Cams, springs, valves, machine work is alot of money. Id get drop in rods for insurance, pistons are good for 500 plus chp. Proper intercooler for turbo, 2.5in to 3in turbo back exhaust. Injector sizer your tuner suggests. And clutch that takes the power. Not much is needed. Your turner should be able to suggest a turbo. I was at 26psi daily driven. I had no meth/water. Hard to find a tuner who will tune it. Hell hard to find a tuner at all. Epa took care of that. My car still isnt running since stroker build. Life got in the way. Maybe this yr, but cant say for sure.
I have watched your video, and I have an almost identical setup on my 1.8 turbo Cupra R with the same log manifold and similar pulsar turbo. This log is rubbish and you will have many problems with it. If you want to put it on you will have to machine it and remove a7mm from a flange in the order you can screw the nuts with a washer. If you don't the nuts will unscrew. It is almost unposible to tighten firmly upper nuts because it is unaccessible.+ your turbo will be buried deep in the engine. Do yourself a favor before you start and make or buy ramhorn heater.
Good video, keep us posted. Who are you tuning with ?
Lots more vids coming in may, car should be buttoned up by end of may🤙🏼 and Blake Beadle at ET Spec is doing the tuning
Where did you get the exhaust manifold from?
Here’s the link for it, looks like it’s out of stock now but I’d message the guy and ask if he’s going to be getting any soon🤙🏼
www.ebay.com/itm/283739021453
www.speedyracer.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=385&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7ZfUudur9wIVDxXUAR0ihQDvEAkYBiABEgKOePD_BwE found one here, 2 left
Appreciate it man!
Can you drop the link to the manifold??
I went with rr stage 4 and it doesn't allow you to shift fast at high rpm. I talked with Mike and he said the stage 5 kit with 6 puck would be better, or the cm fx450 bc it uses the same disk.id recommend get the stage 5 or fx450. I'm not happy with shifting so slow, I got the ss braided clutch line as well and shifts are still too slow with the full face disk, it's basically too heavy of a disk to shift fast.
I say to get a better clutch bc I'm sure you will want to add more power down the road. I was considering fx400 but didn't want to cheap out being that I'm making more power then I think that clutch is capable of handling, probably just wouldn't last that long with that clutch. I made my own hood dump that costed literally nothing and I got a full 3" straight pipe exhaust for about $375. My total cost on my build was about 8k and I'm at 660awhp and 550awtq and it is a budget build.
You on o1a 5 speed still?
Being able to launch endlessly at 7k with a rr stage 4 full face, reliably, is far more worth it than buying some fx4xx every two months because it wears out so fast with power. So just shifting fast I don't think it's worth it. But it sounds like you know what the options are out their, so that's just my opinion ;)
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Do yourself a favor and pin the crank gear and use a arp bolt, my build is almost same, little more extensive but I'll never lose another motor from crank gear keyway shearing 😂. Also if it's not too late get pistons, I know people say they're forged but mine got cracks at the wristpins at about 300±whp
bought a pinned crank gear kit from BBM 👍🏻 too late for pistons tho. Motor almost ready to start
@@Luke100mph used same kit on my last motor and waiting on one to get here finish current build. What are you doing for tuning?
@@nickferraro7042 I swapped to me7.5 from an AWM car, going through Blake at ETspec
@@nickferraro7042 im only using the arp crank bolt, not pinned and stock pistons making over 600awhp
@@taylorbrown8719 ok but when I pulled my pistons they 3 of 4 we're cracked at the wristpins and that was only at around 350whp, also sheared crank gear pulley with stock bolt at that power level, investing the money into making big power, there's no point in taking stupid risk for the sake of saving a few dollars. Learned that lesson a few times lol
Overkill? 😮
Question for anyone in the thread:
I am building a 2.0 stroker version of the 1.8T (AWM). I went with CP-Carrillo stroker pistons at 83mm (3.268") bore. I was gapping my rings and somehow feeler guages failed me (more like I failed to use them properly) and I over gapped everything. I need advise on whether it will be fine or if I need to buy a whole new set of rings.
Specs according to CP for Nitrous/Turbo engines:
Top: Bore x 0.0055" = 3.268x0.0055 = 0.018" or 0.45mm
2nd: Top + 0.004" to 0.008"
My rings:
Top: 0.021" or 0.52mm
2nd: 0.028" or 0.70mm
Is this too much gap now? Please help!!
I ran around .024 top multiple times stock with zero issues in regards to compression/leaking oil. I used a bench grinder to gap my rings and it cuts em mighty fast! Not recommended, but I guess it allowed me to tell you your top ring gap is definitely okay. 2nd ring honestly I can't recall with much confidence but I believe it was. .026. top ring in my opinion should be .023 at least if you're running 35psi and up. Which I have on ever turbo beyond a k03 I've used.
Хорошая машина у самого такая
Could you do a video on your E85 setup?
When I get it all set up I definitely can do that 🤙🏼
That crapy turbo manifold gonna hurt performance
This one flows well, but I do eventually want to do a tubular one
what rear main seal did u use.
Hey where did you get the flow control valve for the trans?
Ringer racing sells them on their website
@@Luke100mph thanks will check it out
Did you keep stock pistons
Hey where can I buy a budget price turbo kit
i really like the pulsar turbos
can i run the same stuff with gt3071r turbo ?
Yes
How much roughly did it cost you to build it ?
I would estimate around $7k for the build with all turbo and fueling. With everything else I’ve done and am planning on doing, well over $10k
What happens if the intercooler is too small?
Will have hot intake air temps
Engine management?
Me7.5 ECU
That’s 058 motor what ecu will u b running
ME7.5 wideband ECU from a 2001 a4
Full harness/DBW throttle conversion
@@kadeemmeggett6324 the wiring part or the pedal assembly removal/install work?
@@Luke100mph the pedals wiring and install was difficult bro it’s not easy me7 swapping uro tuning sells a conversion kit wideband to narrow band kit plug n play
@@Luke100mph unitronic does a wideband conversion kit
Why on gods green earth would anyone pick a lig manifold considering all the info for the last 20yrs ,4 branch makes 60 Bhp more everything else equal , and that’s on a 1.6
What’s wrong with a log manny
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Also 450 wheel on a 1.8t smh
That’s easy to gain
I bet you it exploded
Not with built bottom end it won't. With stock rods it will. I've seen a couple of these hit 500whp and be just fine. Some even call the 1.8t the European 4g63. Check out a channel called boosted Villan for proof of concept.
@@thatnoobguy6146 lol 058 blocks are stronger than 06a blocks I guarantee he won’t grenade 450 hp is low for 1.8t there are 700 hp 1.8t I’m building one
Go to brazil and see people running over 1000whp on this blocks, this blocks can take over 1000... brazilians are the kings of VW tuning.
E85 is dumb what a wasteful build
Some ppl know NOTHING!
E85 is so dumb that I make 815chp with it on my 1.8t stroker build 😂😂