Sony is wasting a great opportunity waiting more than 6 years to release a successor. Put 4K 240 and 2K 960 fps two second slowmo burst in a RX10 V and I’m all in!!!
Looks like the RX10 V4 is being discontinued with no replacement. I'm very glad I have one. As a camera for wildlife photography where I can be taking birds in flight one minute and insects the next this is very much the "Leatherman" of the camera world - it is not the best at anything but it is very capable at many things.
I bought the RX10V4 shortly after it was released, it is my grab and go camera to carry in the car. I have many Canon DSLRs and big L glass lens, but the Sony is so easy to carry on quick outings. Don't get me wrong, I do love my big Canon gear but it's heavy and a tripod is needed. The Sony RX10V4 is a life saver and I love it!
Its assumed most camera companies have moved on from the 1in sensor. But I would love to see an update. Such a versatile combo for vacation and hiking.
Hey thanks for your comment ! Actually DJI just released a 1” sensor very popular Pocket 3 which has generated a lot of interest but we’ll see what happens with the big players in the market !
@@techtoremember8096 Yes but the sensor in those cameras are a step up from what action cams are used to. I meant companies like Sony, Canon, Panasonic. It would be interesting since Sony does make m43 sensors. Would be pretty cool if sony could cram in a m43 sensor without mass compromises to the size!
Well, Canon who had a similar spec'd camera, the PowerShot GX3, have stopped making that, but it was quite flawed - slow to respond and had no built-in EVF. On a camera with an equivalent FL of 600mm, that's just plain silly. They did have an add-on EVF, but it used the hot shoe, was bulky and fragile and cancelled the camera's weathering features. As far as I am concerned the same 1" sensor could remain, it's excellent, but there are other features it could improve on, as I mentioned in my own response.
Thats because smartphones are coming with 1 inch sensors now and with the pericope lenses, you can get really close to the same zoom ranges. Bridge cameras are cool but there is very little want for them these days, especially very expensive ones like the RX10 IV. Most people would opt for a used a7III and a nice lens or two for that kind of money. If Sony makes a new RX10, it needs to be cheaper or come fully loaded, and I mean like 4K 120fps shooting 20-30fps continuous with a killer stacked sensor kind of loaded.
Topaz denoise works so well on the images from the RX10iv that it has revolutionized the image processing. When you look at the original reviews for this camera, the most common negative was that it was expensive, when you see how it is still so competitive that shows what great value it was and still it is, I have has an RX10iv for over two years, it is a great travel camera and outstanding for macro. The autofocus is fast and accurate, the images are very sharp. To get a “better” camera I went for the OM 1 with 12-100 and 100 to 400 lenses , this is also a great camera with a lot of computational photography features but it cost me four times what I paid for the RX 10iv , I am seriously thinking of buying another RX10iv to keep as new in case they stop making super zooms altogether!
Well, I bought the RX10 IV and didn't expect anything better. However, I'm not a high tech guy; I just happen to like taking photos. None of the cameras I use are state of the art, on the contrary: Sony DCS HX400 V, Sony DCS WX500, Pentax 2000, KP and K-1 II. They all have their moments, and the greatest joy in photography is the object, what and how you see it. With all my cameras, I have taken pictures that made me happy. Of course, I think that a possible RX10 V or any new generation mirrorless camera would bring new dimensions to shooting and thus more excitement, but I like these current cameras as well. They are familiar and safe, a bit like old friends. Thank you for your enjoyable videos!
@@mtnews2883 Unfortunately I don’t know. I transfer the images from the camera to the computer via a cable and leave the camera connected to the computer for the time I use to edit the images. The battery charges during that time. I also don't take a very large number of pictures at the same time and transfer the pictures to the computer in small batches. So I can't say how many pictures you could get with a fully charged battery. Frosty days (- 20˚C) are an exception. On those days the battery lasts less than two hours and I usually take 30-40 pictures in that time.
@@mtnews2883I actually plug a micro usb wire to a portable battery pack fasten the pack to the camera with duc tape and can shoot not indefinitely, but pretty much as long as I wish I’m a little extreme, admittedly, though the batteries hold pretty well I found that though like if I’m doing high frame rate video that will burn the battery the fastest
If Sony ever does release the RX10 V I will buy two of them. I owned one for a couple of years and found it to be great for bird photography and general outdoor photography as well. I sold it when I moved on to the Canon R6 because of its subject detection. I ended up selling the Sony because I rarely used it but now I wish I had kept it. It would be a great ravel camera. Now I take my OM-1 and 3 lenses in a small bag. With the Sony it would be a much smaller bag. When I sold my RX10IV there wasn’t the noise reduction/upscaling software that there is now. The lens is sharp and the AF is really good as is. I only have a couple of wishes for the mark 5 if it ever happens. Subject detection and a faster memory card slot. For a camera that shoots 24fps of stills the camera took a ridiculously long time to write to the card. I lost numerous shots to that while waiting. I hope it happens but I am super skeptical that it will.
You are 1,000% spot on faster memory and improved subject detect.... Compare OM-1 + 3 lenses (include to 600mm) = +/- $4000 right vs. $1700? It is great camera with IP water protection...
I bought Sony RX10 iv recently. It's so amazing . I could not wait for new version. Perhaps never birth. Before that I was taking pics with Lumix FZ1000.
I shoot stills only and across a lot of platforms: Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony - in this latter case the RX-10IV. I firmly believe it is the finest super-zoom bridge camera in the world, even after nearly 7 years. Apart from the features you have outlined, a particular gem is the Clear Image Zoom feature that uses computational photography algorithm to give really, really clear images as JPG or XFine JPG up to 1200mm. Would I buy an RX10V? I would if they did the following: * Added an extra button on the back for BBF lock as well as the current AE Lock - I can do that with almost all my other cameras and it's a pain trying to remember to go elsewhere on RX10 * Improved the stabilization (which is still good but time has moved on) * Definitely improved the eye and face tracking * TBH, I would prefer a fully-articulated screen to protect the LCD when not in use and still be able to use it high or low.
Hello. Yes I agree with you how well the RX10 IV has withstood the test of time. The clear Image zoom really is great too and I do go into further detail with examples in my other videos as well showcasing this zoom. I think if we were to ever see a Mark V your list makes sense and I would hope those features would be included. Thanks!
ciao. non ho la macchina, ma da quanto vedo nelle foto fatte con questa, mi sembra che i risultati siano un pò troppo "plasticosi" . Non so se è la post produzione di chi ha fatto la fotografia oppure sono immagini elaborate direttamente dal Clear Image Zoom, ma ho l'impressione che le immagini siano troppo artificiali nei colori, rispetto a quelle che faccio con Olympus. Cosa ne pensi?
Still a brilliant camera, I never want to travel with a box of lenses or squint at a cellphone screen for a distant shot. If Sony made a V the only thing they could do for me would be to make it lighter but with the same quality, if that was possible, or have the 24-600 part detachable so I could mount some wide angle fast lenses such as the 14mm I use for Astro and maybe even longer zooms for special wildlife shoots.
@@mtnews2883 it depends on how you shoot. I’m sometimes doing several frames per second wildlife. I also rarely let it get low. Maybe 500? I think it takes about 15 or 20 min to go from 60% to 100%.
@@leemarkowitz4709 Isn't this number too small? If we say let's take a quick shot, we will drain the entire battery in 10 minutes, right? It seemed like too little to me.
I've used only Nikon since switching to digital, D90, D610 and Z6ii currently. I was looking at getting the Nikkor Z 180-600mm zoom for wildlife for a planned future trip to Africa but have been considering the RX10MkIV for a couple of years waiting for the MkV. I'm turning 70 in a couple of months and only just decided to order the RX10 instead of the 180-600mm zoom, after reading many reviews. The main reason being weight difference plus price and convenience in the fixed zoom. I found this video today and it does make me feel more comfortable about my decision. Thanks for that.
With the RX10 MkIV you're basically buying a $1700 24-600mm Zeiss lens + getting a (more than) decent FREE camera thrown in to the kit versus the usual other way around... LOL...
I work in a bavarian camerastore and have sold about 130 of this outstanding camera it's one of sony's best cameras .I work with it since 6 and half year and until now i have not found much to be improved. Perhaps focusing on birdseyes and fz 100 akku.
Nice to see your newest RX10 info video. I've had mine for 4 years now; it's exclusive. I unloaded my Canon 6D and lenses and now use just the RX10 and DJI Action 3 for all traveling. The Sony is just so good at everything you throw at it. Unless you're a pro, I really believe it's all you need. However, I can understand why we will most likely never see the V. As you said, high-end models, far from the smartphone spectrum and smaller for vlogging seem to be the current direction. So, for now, I'll hold on tight to mine! Happy shooting!
Hi there! Thanks for sharing your experience with the RX10 IV. I totally agree that the camera has withstood the test of time and really can still produce great results , even with today's standards. But who knows, life is full of surprises and out of the blue one day we could see a Mark V but in the meantime, we certainly can enjoy our Mark IV's! Thanks for the comment!
I want it to have a manual zoom, larger sensor higher MP and a crop mode for more zoom, fully articulating screen, better autofocus, support for cf express cards, better battery.
As I've said before on another one of your videos, I don't think a RX10 mk 5 is ever going to happen. If it's better than the mk iv then it would be too good an all round camera, which may keep people from buying Sony's interchangeable lens cameras, particularly the APS-C level ones. Sony wants you buying into their lens system, lenses are where the real money is. I am inching toward getting a new superzoom but won't be planning on it till next year, so the a slim chance the MKV might come out in the meantime that would be my target. If not, MAYBE Panasonic will upgrade the FZ 2500. But it seems unlikely. If Sony has stopped making 1" sensors they probably supplied them to Panasonic for their FZ series. High quality1 inch sensor superzooms may be a thing of the past. If so, I will have to try to get a mk iv, that camera is capable enough to keep me happy.
They don't need to reinvent the wheel, the easiest way is to take the PCB from the Xperia Pro-I and “push” it into the RX10 body. The main reason I'm probably naively waiting is that I want all my other electronics to have USB-C.
I own the RX10 IV and the A7R IV (with Sony 200-600mm) I love them both however; I reach for the RX10 mostly and do run it for video a lot, keeping the A7R IV for stills. Would love to see RX10 getting new software and bionz chip. Upgrade the 1" sensor with Sony's new offerings in that size (45-50MP) would enhance the ability to crop immensely especially for a novice who doesn't always nail the composition. Would love to see 60 or 120fps in video just so I could get some better clearer slow-mos I would buy it for those upgrades... However the RX10 is a giant killer and great for students and smaller folks (who can't lug big glass around) to get outstanding photos using proper techniques!
Suspect a Rx10V might replace a lot of APSC and lens sales. I almost purchased a wonderful used Rx10iv, had in hand, but it just was so large, albeit much smaller than if I had a smaller camera and all the equivalent lenses. I do kind of regret not buying it but it would be so big in my pack if I didn’t need a big telephoto that day. Maybe if the price fell to about $1,000? My Ax53 often meets my telephoto needs for video.
Hmmm. As a DSLR and mirrorless ILC user, to me it’s very small! If they came out with an RX10 V, I’d be ok with it being much bigger if it had the features I’d want.
Needs better image stabilisation and better low light focusing. The addition of nd filters would be great. Other than that it’s a great all around camera.
Such a well put together video thank you so much I have been wandering when the mark 5 of the RX 10 will come out and also I had a RX 1r and I think it was a great little camera but why haven't they brought out new versions it should at least be up to four or possibly five
I got sick of changing lens on my Sony A7R3. In the same day I would be shooting Orca out at sea, landscapes and a variety of other shots requiring various focal lengths. I decided the RX10 might be a great alternative. I was wrong. The images I get out of this are way behind what I was getting out of my A7R3. After 6 months its going on ebay and im off back to my full frame pro camera.
im not a Filmer at all. But i do use it to record myself surfing. wish it did 4k60fps. other than that zero complaints for me, but i do not have alot of knowledge when it comes to cameras
Hello, thanks for this interesting video. I'm about to buy this RX10 IV, but I'm wondering if my Sony microphone ECM-B1M would work on the hotshoe of this camera? 🤔 Thanks in advance for your kind answer. 👍 Have a nice day. Kind Regards, Jerry.
Hi Jerry, according to the Sony website, it IS compatible. Here is the link to the page: support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/accessories/compatibility.php?area=gb&lang=en&mdl=ECM-B1M&cat=1 On the microphone, however you must set the switch to "analog" (not in the digital position) Regards.
I borrowed the Mk 111 for a trip to Antarctica- was quite impressed but found the autofocus rather slow in certain circumstances. I have been thinking about the 1V but nervous for the reasons you mention.
Can I ask who you went to Antarctica with? Was it an organised tour, or did you go alone. Is it easy to go on your own? I'd love to go someday, especially in December, but I'm not sure I could afford it. Can I ask how much it cost. I looked at the Viking tours and their cheapest is £10k. Crazy money. 😢
I think it’s clear that Sony will not release another RX 10 again My feeling is that they are X 100 and RX 10 will be discontinued at some point I don’t think there has been enough improvements or development in the one inch sensor With the better cameras, in cell phones and computational use on pictures and videos Quality differences it’s not that much anymore Sony has been using the development power to improve on cell phone sensors not the one in sensor Cameras, nowadays are way behind in processing compared with cell phones Yes, there has been more megapixels put to full frame sensors and now with Sony coming out with a new global sensor but computational processing power has not been in line with what the cell phones have been doing Cell phones are doing better tracking in many cases and blurring background, etc. something that cameras don’t have I have the RX 10 mark four and yes it’s a fabulous camera and fantastic and was ahead of its time But it’s been too long and no rumors nothing so I got feelings says nope it’s the end of story Would love to see Mark five version that would be nice to have a little bit smaller body and attack from the full frame and the RX 100 mark seven But just a dream
Your video made me think, sales bumph always talks about a 1 inch sensor but when you said larger aps c sensor that didn't make sense so I looked and discovered the sensor is way smaller than I thought, seems you need to look carefully at specs not just assume a 1 inch form factor is what you might think. Good as it is the 600 isn't really long enough for distant birds so sadly lugging heavy lenses is going to be continuing, sadly laws of physics and optics can't be changed no matter how much we might like a 1200 equivalent with a full frame sensor.
I have a Canon R7 w/ RF 100-500 that I'll set up shooting a Bald Eagle Nest and wanted this camera for trying to catch the adult Bald Eagles coming and going. Should be great. thanks for your input.
Thanks for the feedback, an informative camera video that actually had me laughing at times. I'm looking for camera of this type for an Alaska cruise and think it will fit the bill.
I,m close to pulling the handle on the mk4, my last expensive sony camera was the mavica cd 1000 writing the files on mini cds. Must have been 23 yrs ago! Thanks for the video.
Very interesting and useful Video! Would you recommend a good camera with which to take good shots / videos when travelling (even Safari but also landscapes and street views/people etc)? I was undecided between the Sony A6700 with Sony 75/350 lens (or TAMRON 18/300) or the Sony RX 10 iv which has the already built-in 20-600 mm zoom. Do you know it/them? I had also seen the Full Frame cameras (which of course the image quality are top) like the A7C and the Alpha3... but for the lenses they are really huge and very heavy. So I think I’m worth an APSC or that bridge .. What do you think? Thank you!
Hi there and thanks for the comment. The Sony RX10IV is great if you don't want to carry additional lenses if you want something all in one HOWEVER its sensor is not as large as the other cameras you mentioned so its a little unfair to compare them as the larger sensor cameras will always have an advantage with dynamic range, low light, better ISO performance etc. Having said that I do have the 75/350 lens and its a great lens on an APSC camera but its not that wide. So with the RX10iv you have 24mm wide angle built in. If you want a wide shot with the 75-350 you would have to change out your lens on the spot. The Tamron 18-300 good choice too but of course its not as long as the 600 and not as wide either so its all a compromise...If you are looking for the best image quality and that is paramount, then you go with a APSC setup. If you are willing to compromise a little bit for the convenience of an all in one, then the RX10 is your best bet in my opinion.!
Merci pour les infos, même on ne sait pas vraiment si il va sortir ou pas... Pour moi j'attend encore un peu et aimerais le remplacer de mon bon vieux G80. En amélioration j'aimerais un capteur avec une plus grande résolution, une prise usb-C, batterie plus performante, un autofocus plus précis et un mode 100 mp à main levée comme le lumix G9ii.
I think if it was going to happen, it would have done by now. The trouble is what it really needs is a midway update - a Mk4.5 - where they fix user issues like the subpar touchscreen and the battery life. But that should have come out 18/24 months after launch. Now the big changes needed to make it worthwhile would be too big to warrant the price hike. The market's going mirrorless; high-functioning bridge cameras aren't marketable right now because lower spec mirrorless and even second hand DSLRs are too good and too readily available.
Several years ago, before COVID-19, Sony sent out a survey to users and asked them what features and improvements they wanted to see in the next model. They were working towards developing the next model at that time. Not sure of the current status though.
I seem to recall that yes. But that might just be a part of thei regular course of business and they were just collecting info. Its been quite a long time now and we are all still waiting!
Should I get an RX10 m4, or a Sony AX43A (camcorder) & use it to take still images? It's about half the weight, with a comparable optical zoom range (26.8mm - 536mm). The aperture at tele is decent too (f2.0 - 3.8). The neat feature of the camcorder is that the lense does not extend out when zooming. Keeping the overall size compact during use. Any comments?
@@techtoremember8096 thanks for your reply. The RX10 costs several hundreds $$ more & is about double the weight. Hence the dilemma. Either way I just bought the AX43A. Sony is having a summer sale & the AX43A is bundled with a spare NP-FV50A 🔋, a SF-E64A SD card & a cam bag. I may end up taking more vids with it! 😂
Might buy a Sony RX10 V if it ever comes, but I'll stick with the RX100 VII until then. Besides, the superzoom lens of my APS-C (A-mount, also dead Sony line) still works with better low light, although only 450mm instead of 600mm, but with 4MP digital to give.
Still rockin an older RX10MIII. If I can only take one camera, it's a no brainer. I have an A7IV to allow all my vintage lenses, as well as an A7SIII for low light, but I still will take the RX10MIII if I can only bring one. Oh, and I still keep around a Nikon P1000 for when I really, really need long reach.
I can't wait any longer to purchase, I've made my decision to go with the RX10 over the competition (main decision criteria was image quality). My question is should I buy new for $1700, or used for about $1100 (but no warranty)? My secondary question is M3's are available used for about $700. Is the MIV worth the extra $1K for new or $400 for used over the M3?
I bought a used one because there are some really good deals on used ones. If you buy a used one, make sure you get one from a seller with 100% feedback if you buy on Ebay with plenty of pictures and confirm that it works and that there are no issues with the lens or screen. As far as the Mark 3 over the 4, there has been some autofocus improvements with the Mark 4 which is more important in video than photos. If you are going to use the camera mainly for photos, then you could probably get away with the Mark 3, but if you are going to be shooting a fair amount of video as well I'd get the Mark 4.
I am trying to decide between the Nikon P950 and the RX10 for a biking trip to the Netherlands next spring. Which would you recommend? I will not be able to take a tripod.
As an all around travel camera, personally I would take the Sony. Very rarely do you need anything more than the 600mm reach (which is quite a lot) unless you are doing the bulk of your work in wildlife photography. The Sony is lighter and easier to transport with better picture quality as well.
Yeah, tough call there. My go-to camera for just about everything has been the Lumix G9, as for me, MFT is where all the lines intersect--it provides the best combination of portability and performance in existence (especially if you use a wide EFL range, like the 12-800mm I have). That said, there are times when a bridge camera makes just more sense (like dog walking or travelling in certain places). That's why I also have an FZ1000 (which produces excellent images in most conditions and has a flippy screen, plus way better ergo than the RX), but it's not weatherproof and I often want more than 400mm EFL, so I'm thinking about an RX10 iv. I find it odd not only that Sony's yet to replace, nor discount this now six-year-old camera (although the intro price of US$1,700 would be over $2,100 today with inflation), but as there's no indication that a replacement is imminent, this is a powerful camera and more than sufficient for most (but not all) applications, so it's still a compelling choice.
Great points. Sony usually stands firm on the their cameras' pricing and you are right about inflation, even though the price hasn't come down, by staying the same it has come down in real dollars. I love Micro 4/3 for the same reason, its a good mix.
As someone with an ecologically focused career and looking at photography to assist in it, I'm really sad I missed out on this camera while it was in production, its hard to find one from a reliable store these days, I might have to risk the second hand market :(
@@techtoremember8096 really? I keep seeing articles saying production ceased in summer this year and everywhere is out of stock. I'm based in Aus which probably adds an extra layer of difficulty to finding one brand new
Pardon me jumping in but I value your opinion. Sony RX10iv or Nikon P950 or Nikon P1000 for bird photography. And yes clearly I'm a newbie! Thx for your help.
Hello there. Wow, that's a tough question. All of those cameras can be used for bird photography. If the MAIN reason you are going to use the camera is bird photography and you will have the camera mounted on a tripod, then I would say the P1000. If you plan on hand-holding then the P950 because its really difficult to get a steady shot at 3000mm without a tripod and the P950 is a lot lighter. The Nikon's clearly have the best zoom so if bird photography is your primary reason, then I would choose the NIkons!
Hello, it would depend on how you charge the battery. If you use the USB through the camera I believe that's the slowest method and could take a couple hours to fully charge. I personally find it more convenient to use a travel charger and most of them can do it a bit quicker than that. The camera is rated at 400 shots per charge when using the LCD, or 370 shots per charge when using the EVF. Thank you.
@@techtoremember8096 Isn't this number too small? If we say let's take a quick shot, we will drain the entire battery in 10 minutes, right? It seemed like too little to me.
Well, they are similar in the sense that they both have 1" sensors but that's about it. The RX10IV is better if you are more into photography because it is a still camera first, and video camera second. The AX700 is better if you like the form factor of a camcorder and I would say it performs better in video.. Better stabilization, more manual controls (although the zoom isn't as long). If you really want the long zoom, then the RX10 is the way to go.
Hallo, Gruß aus Deutschland an alle. Das Video hat mir gefallen. Ich habe mir die Kamera danach gebraucht gekauft. Trotzdem hoffe ich, dass es eine MK5 geben wird.
I have had an AX100 and AX700. Both used 1" sensors and both suffer from moire patterns. The RX10 IV is basically a 1" video camera with the ability to take photos. I would have loved to have bought it for video but fear it would suffer the same moire problems. Some say it doesn't as it's an over sampled image in video but I can't see any Sony documents saying that and the videos I can see taken with it often look the same over sharpen moire in leaves and buildings footage. So what would I like from a Sony RX10 V. No moire video, much higher bit rate video, 100mb is not good enough. 10 bit 4.2 2 and 60fps NO crop. Anything else would be a bonus.
I’ve never heard it described as a video camera before. It has the sharpest lens in an all-purpose camera ever…it’s great for all purpose stills photography. I’ve probably taken 100k photos with it and never done a video.
I've been waiting even longer for the "AX800." The AX700 was released in 2017. And the AX43 was 2020. I think Sony has given up on consumer camcorders.
Sony says the RX10 IV will be discontinued now in 2024, with no successor. The alternatives are now, APS-C cameras with superzoom lenses like the Tamron 16-300mm (28-450) and the likes. Faster AF, better noise handling, higher resolution, etc., in exchange for perhaps lesser lenses.
I used Nikon for years but Fujifilm for travel and would have no hesitation in picking up a RX series camera based on Sony’s technology leadership. The travel camera market has a giant hole in it that smartphones do not fill to the extent that a Sony RX could. Given all the hype around Lyca compact cameras like the Q3, Sony could have positioned the RX1 in that market segment. The RX family of cameras is sorely missed.
You are right! And hopefully comments like these and if they start hearing requests from the market, Sony's thinking might start to change. Right now they are heavily focused on their mirrorless and vlogging divisions and I agree, they are missing an important market segment with the RX series.
There is a market for high quality super zooms but camera manufacturers that produce higher end cameras like Sony probably think they are shooting themselves in the foot to build them. Add a bigger battery, buffer and faster file transfers, upgrade the auto focus to A6700 standards and keep the focal length while making the user interface more intuitive and Sony wouldn't be able to make enough of them. But that would take away sales from the alpha line....maybe. I've seen a lot of folks talking about upgrading the sensor to APS-C size but that comes with a huge penalty in the for of lens size and weight. With current technology the lens would end up being almost double the size it is now to have the same focal range with an APS-C sensor versus the 1" sensor. Sony could split the difference by going with a micro four thirds sensor and keep the size manageable but then how would they make a case for a single use sensor as they would no longer be able to use it in the RX-V's and keep the pocket size or else decrease the reach of the mark 7. Sony has probably left the RX IV as it is because technology doesn't currently allow for it to be better without compromising some things that make it appealing. Not to mention being able to field other cameras with the same sensor. Add that to the potential to cut into their alpha series sales and it's doubtful Sony will update the RX IV unless they think doing so would generate more revenue than they believe they would lose from lost alpha sales. Now, if Sony could revolutionize the 1" sensor to rival APS-C levels of low light capability and dynamic range then they might update it knowing that the self professed pro crowd or those that like to pretend will scoff at a 1" sensor. Then the general public might buy the RX-V and the less informed or those in actual need of something higher end will still buy the alpha series. A win-win for Sony.
Question for anyone - I just bought a used RX10 IV and the zoom motor makes enough noise that it can be heard in the video as it moves in & out. I never had one of these in my hands before and was wondering if this is normal or is my used one having an issue? I can still return it if not proper!
Hello, while there is a noise when the motor zooms, it has never been an issue for me. I would say if you are shooting in a very quiet room, you may pick up on it, however in most shooting situations or even outside, with an average degree of ambient noise, it should not be an issue. It is possible that your motor is noisier than it should be --I'd recommend going to a Best Buy or some place where you can test another one and compare it to your model to see if there is a difference.
If it’s still selling, and it is, obviously (I just bought one!) why improve things only a little - those with the M4 probably won’t upgrade to the M5. It’s my first Sony , and I’m excited to be buying this even though it’s a 2017 model. This in part to your content here on YT ( interesting and informative by the way!) 🙏😀
the cellphones have been upgraded so much that reduces the requirement of bridge cameras , it would be great if someone do a comparison between this camera and smartphone flagships (iphone 16 promax, vivo x200 pro and ...) to see how different they are in zoom. maybe we dont need these kind of cameras anymore in next years.
Hello cellphones have been upgraded but there's only so much you can do with physics and a tiny lens . The zooms are still heavily digitally assisted and the RX10 offers a true 600mm zoom, coupled with a large piece of Zeiss glass ...no cell phone can come close in zoom quality to this. Sure they both can take great snapshots at wide angle, and you may not be able to tell them apart in those instances, but there is still demand for bridge cameras because of their zoom capabilities for wildlife and birding.
@techtoremember8096 yes i totally agree with you that the phones can not beat the bridge cameras because of the size, however as a normal person ( not a photographer) who likes to play around with the cameras i think is more important that i have my phone always in my pocket and they do some decent photos too. Lately i have been thinking about buying a phone with good camera and zoom ability and i knew about the sony's bridge too, but when i watch the footages i cant really make decision to go for a cheaper phone + sony or to pay extra on phone to have both in one device. In this case, for example 5 years ago it was much more clear for someone like me that it worth to buy phone and camera separately. I think if someone make some comparisons with different compacts and bridges and new phone cameras it would become very useful for people like me to make a decision.
I would sell most of my ILC gear for an updated RX10 with a better/larger viewfinder, better LCD, faster AF acquisition with better tracking, better weather sealing, z100 battery, a vertical grip option and hopefully expanding the zoom to 20-600. I know it's probably a dream but still. 😉
It pisses me off that Sony essentially gave up on camcorders and super zoom all in one cameras like this, just as the tech was getting better. Wish we had a RX10 M5 with 4K60p
@@leemarkowitz4709 yes. But now we are in interchangeble lens territory. M43 is still small and versitile. Unfortunately it does not have a 1000fps clips, which is unique for some Sony cameras.
@@pwolkowicki Yeah, mainstream territory is to get slow kit lenses with a restricted zoom range because “nobody” uses P&S in 2023! I actually enjoy going against the mainstream when I use the RX10 IV. I also enjoy using my Canon R7 but I will use that only if I have a more specialized lens on it that will vastly outperform the RX10.
Wouldn't Sony make a public statement that it's the end of the line for the RX10? Or is that just not something they would do. You'd think they must have made a decision by now, so why not let their fans know. They're just toying with us. One thing I would really like to see is software to control the camera. I only bought my RX10 iV in September, so the software for it had already been dropped. I'd assumed they'd dropped it in favour of a better version, but that's not happened either. 😥
Hi there. Did you try the Imaging Edge Software? It's possible they support the RX10IV in this updated version of the Sony app. In answer to your question, I would highly doubt Sony would ever come out and state that the RX line is finished, probably because nothing is ever final and they may want to leave the door open at some point. I believe they are simply focusing now on their more profitable divisions like mirrorless, lenses the vlogging market etc. but if consumer sentiment shifts and they hear enough of a call from the market for an all in one camera, they could always modify their strategy.
@@techtoremember8096 I cannot tell you that unfortunately, but It would be presented at in january in Las Vegas, but the releasedate was replaced to march...
I think bridge cameras are done really and it's a shame Just like compact cameras, they are a thing of the past. Last one was the FZ1000 Mark II like 5 years ago. Not only do they not sell very well, these companies are trying to protect their cinema lines and/or mirrorless lines. The RX10 IV is also overpriced for what it is. $1,700 for a 1 inch sensor camera with lower end specs is just very poor value. You can get a used FF camera and a great lens or two for that money.
A camera is different from other devices like TVs. Lets say you buy a new TY now or wait two years. What does it matter after five years? Nothing. With a camera it is different. Even after 5 years you miss the photos or have them in poorer quality as you had a worse camera. I doubt there will be any new fixed lens cameras. Soon they may even end production. Canon has canceled its comparable camera G3 X.
people don't buy anymore consumer cameras . they have cell phones . the biggest problem with cameras are the interface that didn't changed much from the early days of digital cameras and the transfer of the photos to the phone . the apps are horrible and don't come near the easy of using the built in camera in the cell phone.
For bird photography a cellphone is not a lot of use. When photographing birds there is no substitute for focal length and its almost impossible to have too much.
Sony is wasting a great opportunity waiting more than 6 years to release a successor. Put 4K 240 and 2K 960 fps two second slowmo burst in a RX10 V and I’m all in!!!
Do you prefer to do before or after for shutter release when doing HFR
@@MrBillkaz I prefer end trigger recording.
I bought one, and sold my a6700 with 4 lenses.
Glad I did!
Do you regret the move? I have an older sony hv400v and im debating if I go a 6100 mirrorless with nice glass or one of these
Looks like the RX10 V4 is being discontinued with no replacement. I'm very glad I have one. As a camera for wildlife photography where I can be taking birds in flight one minute and insects the next this is very much the "Leatherman" of the camera world - it is not the best at anything but it is very capable at many things.
Still happy with my RX10 III
i bought one and I love it. I don't know how I missed this camera for the past 7 years.
Hi! It’s sort of under the radar !
I bought the RX10V4 shortly after it was released, it is my grab and go camera to carry in the car. I have many Canon DSLRs and big L glass lens, but the Sony is so easy to carry on quick outings. Don't get me wrong, I do love my big Canon gear but it's heavy and a tripod is needed. The Sony RX10V4 is a life saver and I love it!
Its assumed most camera companies have moved on from the 1in sensor. But I would love to see an update. Such a versatile combo for vacation and hiking.
Hey thanks for your comment ! Actually DJI just released a 1” sensor very popular Pocket 3 which has generated a lot of interest but we’ll see what happens with the big players in the market !
@@techtoremember8096 Yes but the sensor in those cameras are a step up from what action cams are used to. I meant companies like Sony, Canon, Panasonic.
It would be interesting since Sony does make m43 sensors. Would be pretty cool if sony could cram in a m43 sensor without mass compromises to the size!
Well, Canon who had a similar spec'd camera, the PowerShot GX3, have stopped making that, but it was quite flawed - slow to respond and had no built-in EVF. On a camera with an equivalent FL of 600mm, that's just plain silly. They did have an add-on EVF, but it used the hot shoe, was bulky and fragile and cancelled the camera's weathering features.
As far as I am concerned the same 1" sensor could remain, it's excellent, but there are other features it could improve on, as I mentioned in my own response.
Thats because smartphones are coming with 1 inch sensors now and with the pericope lenses, you can get really close to the same zoom ranges. Bridge cameras are cool but there is very little want for them these days, especially very expensive ones like the RX10 IV. Most people would opt for a used a7III and a nice lens or two for that kind of money. If Sony makes a new RX10, it needs to be cheaper or come fully loaded, and I mean like 4K 120fps shooting 20-30fps continuous with a killer stacked sensor kind of loaded.
It is not a 1" sensor. 1-type is the description. Perhaps a Sony joke or a sneaky name.
Topaz denoise works so well on the images from the RX10iv that it has revolutionized the image processing. When you look at the original reviews for this camera, the most common negative was that it was expensive, when you see how it is still so competitive that shows what great value it was and still it is, I have has an RX10iv for over two years, it is a great travel camera and outstanding for macro. The autofocus is fast and accurate, the images are very sharp. To get a “better” camera I went for the OM 1 with 12-100 and 100 to 400 lenses , this is also a great camera with a lot of computational photography features but it cost me four times what I paid for the RX 10iv , I am seriously thinking of buying another RX10iv to keep as new in case they stop making super zooms altogether!
I think they want everyone to move to full frame. For the money.
I’m getting my fourth today lol
@@MrBillkaz tu hai 4 sony rx10 IV ??
I just bought a new/old RX10 MKIV and when paired with Topaz denoise software is the best value in human history.
Well, I bought the RX10 IV and didn't expect anything better. However, I'm not a high tech guy; I just happen to like taking photos. None of the cameras I use are state of the art, on the contrary: Sony DCS HX400 V, Sony DCS WX500, Pentax 2000, KP and K-1 II. They all have their moments, and the greatest joy in photography is the object, what and how you see it. With all my cameras, I have taken pictures that made me happy.
Of course, I think that a possible RX10 V or any new generation mirrorless camera would bring new dimensions to shooting and thus more excitement, but I like these current cameras as well. They are familiar and safe, a bit like old friends.
Thank you for your enjoyable videos!
Old friends, I like that! Very thoughtful comment, thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Hello, how many minutes does it take to charge your RX10 camera on average? How many photos can be taken with a single charge?
@@mtnews2883 Unfortunately I don’t know. I transfer the images from the camera to the computer via a cable and leave the camera connected to the computer for the time I use to edit the images. The battery charges during that time.
I also don't take a very large number of pictures at the same time and transfer the pictures to the computer in small batches. So I can't say how many pictures you could get with a fully charged battery. Frosty days (- 20˚C) are an exception. On those days the battery lasts less than two hours and I usually take 30-40 pictures in that time.
@@mtnews2883I actually plug a micro usb wire to a portable battery pack fasten the pack to the camera with duc tape and can shoot not indefinitely, but pretty much as long as I wish I’m a little extreme, admittedly, though the batteries hold pretty well I found that though like if I’m doing high frame rate video that will burn the battery the fastest
If Sony ever does release the RX10 V I will buy two of them. I owned one for a couple of years and found it to be great for bird photography and general outdoor photography as well. I sold it when I moved on to the Canon R6 because of its subject detection. I ended up selling the Sony because I rarely used it but now I wish I had kept it. It would be a great ravel camera. Now I take my OM-1 and 3 lenses in a small bag. With the Sony it would be a much smaller bag. When I sold my RX10IV there wasn’t the noise reduction/upscaling software that there is now. The lens is sharp and the AF is really good as is. I only have a couple of wishes for the mark 5 if it ever happens. Subject detection and a faster memory card slot. For a camera that shoots 24fps of stills the camera took a ridiculously long time to write to the card. I lost numerous shots to that while waiting. I hope it happens but I am super skeptical that it will.
Add the bigger Z battery and I'm in!
You are 1,000% spot on faster memory and improved subject detect.... Compare OM-1 + 3 lenses (include to 600mm) = +/- $4000 right vs. $1700? It is great camera with IP water protection...
I bought Sony RX10 iv recently. It's so amazing . I could not wait for new version. Perhaps never birth. Before that I was taking pics with Lumix FZ1000.
Same exact here !! Night and day difference
I shoot stills only and across a lot of platforms: Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony - in this latter case the RX-10IV. I firmly believe it is the finest super-zoom bridge camera in the world, even after nearly 7 years. Apart from the features you have outlined, a particular gem is the Clear Image Zoom feature that uses computational photography algorithm to give really, really clear images as JPG or XFine JPG up to 1200mm.
Would I buy an RX10V? I would if they did the following:
* Added an extra button on the back for BBF lock as well as the current AE Lock - I can do that with almost all my other cameras and it's a pain trying to remember to go elsewhere on RX10
* Improved the stabilization (which is still good but time has moved on)
* Definitely improved the eye and face tracking
* TBH, I would prefer a fully-articulated screen to protect the LCD when not in use and still be able to use it high or low.
Hello. Yes I agree with you how well the RX10 IV has withstood the test of time. The clear Image zoom really is great too and I do go into further detail with examples in my other videos as well showcasing this zoom. I think if we were to ever see a Mark V your list makes sense and I would hope those features would be included. Thanks!
ciao. non ho la macchina, ma da quanto vedo nelle foto fatte con questa, mi sembra che i risultati siano un pò troppo "plasticosi" . Non so se è la post produzione di chi ha fatto la fotografia oppure sono immagini elaborate direttamente dal Clear Image Zoom, ma ho l'impressione che le immagini siano troppo artificiali nei colori, rispetto a quelle che faccio con Olympus. Cosa ne pensi?
Still a brilliant camera, I never want to travel with a box of lenses or squint at a cellphone screen for a distant shot. If Sony made a V the only thing they could do for me would be to make it lighter but with the same quality, if that was possible, or have the 24-600 part detachable so I could mount some wide angle fast lenses such as the 14mm I use for Astro and maybe even longer zooms for special wildlife shoots.
Love the RX10 IV! I have the Canon R7 and a few DSLRs but use the RX10 more than anything else. It is special!
Hello, how many minutes does it take to charge your RX10 camera on average? How many photos can be taken with a single charge?
@@mtnews2883 it depends on how you shoot. I’m sometimes doing several frames per second wildlife. I also rarely let it get low. Maybe 500? I think it takes about 15 or 20 min to go from 60% to 100%.
@@leemarkowitz4709 Isn't this number too small? If we say let's take a quick shot, we will drain the entire battery in 10 minutes, right? It seemed like too little to me.
@@mtnews2883 I’m talking about charging time
I've used only Nikon since switching to digital, D90, D610 and Z6ii currently. I was looking at getting the Nikkor Z 180-600mm zoom for wildlife for a planned future trip to Africa but have been considering the RX10MkIV for a couple of years waiting for the MkV. I'm turning 70 in a couple of months and only just decided to order the RX10 instead of the 180-600mm zoom, after reading many reviews. The main reason being weight difference plus price and convenience in the fixed zoom. I found this video today and it does make me feel more comfortable about my decision. Thanks for that.
HI there and glad it could be of help. Best of luck on your new camera!
How do you like the rx10 so far?
With the RX10 MkIV you're basically buying a $1700 24-600mm Zeiss lens + getting a (more than) decent FREE camera thrown in to the kit versus the usual other way around... LOL...
I work in a bavarian camerastore and have sold about 130 of this outstanding camera it's one of sony's best cameras .I work with it since 6 and half year and until now i have not found much to be improved. Perhaps focusing on birdseyes and fz 100 akku.
Thanks for that video. I just bought one - and I‘m really happy with it 👍
Great news !! Thank you
Nice to see your newest RX10 info video. I've had mine for 4 years now; it's exclusive. I unloaded my Canon 6D and lenses and now use just the RX10 and DJI Action 3 for all traveling. The Sony is just so good at everything you throw at it. Unless you're a pro, I really believe it's all you need. However, I can understand why we will most likely never see the V. As you said, high-end models, far from the smartphone spectrum and smaller for vlogging seem to be the current direction. So, for now, I'll hold on tight to mine! Happy shooting!
Hi there! Thanks for sharing your experience with the RX10 IV. I totally agree that the camera has withstood the test of time and really can still produce great results , even with today's standards. But who knows, life is full of surprises and out of the blue one day we could see a Mark V but in the meantime, we certainly can enjoy our Mark IV's! Thanks for the comment!
An APS-C sensor in an RX10 Mark V would be spectacular
I like your thinking
The camera would be much bigger and so far not interessting.
I want it to have a manual zoom, larger sensor higher MP and a crop mode for more zoom, fully articulating screen, better autofocus, support for cf express cards, better battery.
As I've said before on another one of your videos, I don't think a RX10 mk 5 is ever going to happen. If it's better than the mk iv then it would be too good an all round camera, which may keep people from buying Sony's interchangeable lens cameras, particularly the APS-C level ones. Sony wants you buying into their lens system, lenses are where the real money is. I am inching toward getting a new superzoom but won't be planning on it till next year, so the a slim chance the MKV might come out in the meantime that would be my target. If not, MAYBE Panasonic will upgrade the FZ 2500. But it seems unlikely. If Sony has stopped making 1" sensors they probably supplied them to Panasonic for their FZ series. High quality1 inch sensor superzooms may be a thing of the past. If so, I will have to try to get a mk iv, that camera is capable enough to keep me happy.
Hey ! It’s looking like you were right !
The autofocus is exceptional and was at one time the fastest in the world
They don't need to reinvent the wheel, the easiest way is to take the PCB from the Xperia Pro-I and “push” it into the RX10 body. The main reason I'm probably naively waiting is that I want all my other electronics to have USB-C.
I own the RX10 IV and the A7R IV (with Sony 200-600mm) I love them both however; I reach for the RX10 mostly and do run it for video a lot, keeping the A7R IV for stills.
Would love to see RX10 getting new software and bionz chip. Upgrade the 1" sensor with Sony's new offerings in that size (45-50MP) would enhance the ability to crop immensely especially for a novice who doesn't always nail the composition. Would love to see 60 or 120fps in video just so I could get some better clearer slow-mos
I would buy it for those upgrades... However the RX10 is a giant killer and great for students and smaller folks (who can't lug big glass around) to get outstanding photos using proper techniques!
Suspect a Rx10V might replace a lot of APSC and lens sales. I almost purchased a wonderful used Rx10iv, had in hand, but it just was so large, albeit much smaller than if I had a smaller camera and all the equivalent lenses. I do kind of regret not buying it but it would be so big in my pack if I didn’t need a big telephoto that day. Maybe if the price fell to about $1,000? My Ax53 often meets my telephoto needs for video.
Hmmm. As a DSLR and mirrorless ILC user, to me it’s very small! If they came out with an RX10 V, I’d be ok with it being much bigger if it had the features I’d want.
Needs better image stabilisation and better low light focusing. The addition of nd filters would be great. Other than that it’s a great all around camera.
Such a well put together video thank you so much I have been wandering when the mark 5 of the RX 10 will come out and also I had a RX 1r and I think it was a great little camera but why haven't they brought out new versions it should at least be up to four or possibly five
Thank you !!
I got sick of changing lens on my Sony A7R3. In the same day I would be shooting Orca out at sea, landscapes and a variety of other shots requiring various focal lengths. I decided the RX10 might be a great alternative. I was wrong. The images I get out of this are way behind what I was getting out of my A7R3. After 6 months its going on ebay and im off back to my full frame pro camera.
Hello, how many minutes does it take to charge your RX10 camera on average? How many photos can be taken with a single charge?
To buy A7R3 today and get 24-600mm capability starting from scratch will set you back $4000. Versus $1700. It better be that much better...
im not a Filmer at all. But i do use it to record myself surfing. wish it did 4k60fps. other than that zero complaints for me, but i do not have alot of knowledge when it comes to cameras
Hello, thanks for this interesting video. I'm about to buy this RX10 IV, but I'm wondering if my Sony microphone ECM-B1M would work on the hotshoe of this camera? 🤔 Thanks in advance for your kind answer. 👍 Have a nice day.
Kind Regards, Jerry.
Hi Jerry, according to the Sony website, it IS compatible. Here is the link to the page:
support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/accessories/compatibility.php?area=gb&lang=en&mdl=ECM-B1M&cat=1
On the microphone, however you must set the switch to "analog" (not in the digital position)
Regards.
I borrowed the Mk 111 for a trip to Antarctica- was quite impressed but found the autofocus rather slow in certain circumstances. I have been thinking about the 1V but nervous for the reasons you mention.
Can I ask who you went to Antarctica with?
Was it an organised tour, or did you go alone.
Is it easy to go on your own?
I'd love to go someday, especially in December, but I'm not sure I could afford it.
Can I ask how much it cost.
I looked at the Viking tours and their cheapest is £10k.
Crazy money. 😢
@@Zubareffstream111 I went with Hurtigruten. I booked very last minute, and booked a suite. I saved £12k, but it still cost just under £10k.
The MK4 has better autofocus than the 3
I think it’s clear that Sony will not release another RX 10 again
My feeling is that they are X 100 and RX 10 will be discontinued at some point
I don’t think there has been enough improvements or development in the one inch sensor
With the better cameras, in cell phones and computational use on pictures and videos Quality differences it’s not that much anymore
Sony has been using the development power to improve on cell phone sensors not the one in sensor
Cameras, nowadays are way behind in processing compared with cell phones
Yes, there has been more megapixels put to full frame sensors and now with Sony coming out with a new global sensor but computational processing power has not been in line with what the cell phones have been doing
Cell phones are doing better tracking in many cases and blurring background, etc. something that cameras don’t have
I have the RX 10 mark four and yes it’s a fabulous camera and fantastic and was ahead of its time
But it’s been too long and no rumors nothing so I got feelings says nope it’s the end of story
Would love to see Mark five version that would be nice to have a little bit smaller body and attack from the full frame and the RX 100 mark seven
But just a dream
Your video made me think, sales bumph always talks about a 1 inch sensor but when you said larger aps c sensor that didn't make sense so I looked and discovered the sensor is way smaller than I thought, seems you need to look carefully at specs not just assume a 1 inch form factor is what you might think. Good as it is the 600 isn't really long enough for distant birds so sadly lugging heavy lenses is going to be continuing, sadly laws of physics and optics can't be changed no matter how much we might like a 1200 equivalent with a full frame sensor.
I have a Canon R7 w/ RF 100-500 that I'll set up shooting a Bald Eagle Nest and wanted this camera for trying to catch the adult Bald Eagles coming and going. Should be great. thanks for your input.
Sounds great! Thanks for your comment
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I'm waiting for RX10MarkV to buy markIV for cheap! ;)
Do you think it's going to happen?
7:46 Truth! But also justification. :p
Thanks for the feedback, an informative camera video that actually had me laughing at times. I'm looking for camera of this type for an Alaska cruise and think it will fit the bill.
Great to hear ! Thanks for the comment
I’m sure you’ll get some great glacier shots with the RX 10 !
I,m close to pulling the handle on the mk4, my last expensive sony camera was the mavica cd 1000 writing the files on mini cds. Must have been 23 yrs ago! Thanks for the video.
Wow that Mavica is a classic! Very impressive. I have to get around to reviewing that one soon!
Very interesting and useful
Video! Would you recommend a good camera with which to take good shots / videos when travelling (even Safari but also landscapes and street views/people etc)? I was undecided between the Sony A6700 with Sony 75/350 lens (or TAMRON 18/300) or the Sony RX 10 iv which has the already built-in 20-600 mm zoom. Do you know it/them?
I had also seen the Full Frame cameras (which of course the image quality are top) like the A7C and the Alpha3... but for the lenses they are really huge and very heavy. So I think I’m worth an APSC or that bridge ..
What do you think? Thank you!
Hi there and thanks for the comment. The Sony RX10IV is great if you don't want to carry additional lenses if you want something all in one HOWEVER its sensor is not as large as the other cameras you mentioned so its a little unfair to compare them as the larger sensor cameras will always have an advantage with dynamic range, low light, better ISO performance etc. Having said that I do have the 75/350 lens and its a great lens on an APSC camera but its not that wide. So with the RX10iv you have 24mm wide angle built in. If you want a wide shot with the 75-350 you would have to change out your lens on the spot. The Tamron 18-300 good choice too but of course its not as long as the 600 and not as wide either so its all a compromise...If you are looking for the best image quality and that is paramount, then you go with a APSC setup. If you are willing to compromise a little bit for the convenience of an all in one, then the RX10 is your best bet in my opinion.!
Merci pour les infos, même on ne sait pas vraiment si il va sortir ou pas... Pour moi j'attend encore un peu et aimerais le remplacer de mon bon vieux G80. En amélioration j'aimerais un capteur avec une plus grande résolution, une prise usb-C, batterie plus performante, un autofocus plus précis et un mode 100 mp à main levée comme le lumix G9ii.
If it don't maintain f4 while zooming all the way maybe APSC can be done?
i really love photography . but can't afford some of the best bridge like sony rx10 iv . it's a dream come true if i have it 🥺
I was in the same boat as you about six years ago and hang in there because it’s worth it
I think if it was going to happen, it would have done by now. The trouble is what it really needs is a midway update - a Mk4.5 - where they fix user issues like the subpar touchscreen and the battery life. But that should have come out 18/24 months after launch. Now the big changes needed to make it worthwhile would be too big to warrant the price hike. The market's going mirrorless; high-functioning bridge cameras aren't marketable right now because lower spec mirrorless and even second hand DSLRs are too good and too readily available.
Several years ago, before COVID-19, Sony sent out a survey to users and asked them what features and improvements they wanted to see in the next model. They were working towards developing the next model at that time. Not sure of the current status though.
I seem to recall that yes. But that might just be a part of thei regular course of business and they were just collecting info. Its been quite a long time now and we are all still waiting!
Should I get an RX10 m4, or a Sony AX43A (camcorder) & use it to take still images?
It's about half the weight, with a comparable optical zoom range (26.8mm - 536mm). The aperture at tele is decent too (f2.0 - 3.8). The neat feature of the camcorder is that the lense does not extend out when zooming. Keeping the overall size compact during use.
Any comments?
The ax43 is more geared to video If you are going to take mainly video the 43 is a good choice but the photos will look far better on the rx10 Iv
@@techtoremember8096 thanks for your reply. The RX10 costs several hundreds $$ more & is about double the weight. Hence the dilemma.
Either way I just bought the AX43A. Sony is having a summer sale & the AX43A is bundled with a spare NP-FV50A 🔋, a SF-E64A SD card & a cam bag.
I may end up taking more vids with it! 😂
Might buy a Sony RX10 V if it ever comes, but I'll stick with the RX100 VII until then. Besides, the superzoom lens of my APS-C (A-mount, also dead Sony line) still works with better low light, although only 450mm instead of 600mm, but with 4MP digital to give.
Still rockin an older RX10MIII. If I can only take one camera, it's a no brainer. I have an A7IV to allow all my vintage lenses, as well as an A7SIII for low light, but I still will take the RX10MIII if I can only bring one. Oh, and I still keep around a Nikon P1000 for when I really, really need long reach.
Maqnifique work Sir. Thank you.
Thanks for your comment !
I can't wait any longer to purchase, I've made my decision to go with the RX10 over the competition (main decision criteria was image quality). My question is should I buy new for $1700, or used for about $1100 (but no warranty)? My secondary question is M3's are available used for about $700. Is the MIV worth the extra $1K for new or $400 for used over the M3?
I bought a used one because there are some really good deals on used ones. If you buy a used one, make sure you get one from a seller with 100% feedback if you buy on Ebay with plenty of pictures and confirm that it works and that there are no issues with the lens or screen. As far as the Mark 3 over the 4, there has been some autofocus improvements with the Mark 4 which is more important in video than photos. If you are going to use the camera mainly for photos, then you could probably get away with the Mark 3, but if you are going to be shooting a fair amount of video as well I'd get the Mark 4.
I am trying to decide between the Nikon P950 and the RX10 for a biking trip to the Netherlands next spring. Which would you recommend? I will not be able to take a tripod.
As an all around travel camera, personally I would take the Sony. Very rarely do you need anything more than the 600mm reach (which is quite a lot) unless you are doing the bulk of your work in wildlife photography. The Sony is lighter and easier to transport with better picture quality as well.
RX10 iv bigger sensor, better lens.
just wished it had 4k60. only reason i want to change it for surf videos.
Yeah, tough call there. My go-to camera for just about everything has been the Lumix G9, as for me, MFT is where all the lines intersect--it provides the best combination of portability and performance in existence (especially if you use a wide EFL range, like the 12-800mm I have). That said, there are times when a bridge camera makes just more sense (like dog walking or travelling in certain places). That's why I also have an FZ1000 (which produces excellent images in most conditions and has a flippy screen, plus way better ergo than the RX), but it's not weatherproof and I often want more than 400mm EFL, so I'm thinking about an RX10 iv. I find it odd not only that Sony's yet to replace, nor discount this now six-year-old camera (although the intro price of US$1,700 would be over $2,100 today with inflation), but as there's no indication that a replacement is imminent, this is a powerful camera and more than sufficient for most (but not all) applications, so it's still a compelling choice.
Great points. Sony usually stands firm on the their cameras' pricing and you are right about inflation, even though the price hasn't come down, by staying the same it has come down in real dollars. I love Micro 4/3 for the same reason, its a good mix.
As someone with an ecologically focused career and looking at photography to assist in it, I'm really sad I missed out on this camera while it was in production, its hard to find one from a reliable store these days, I might have to risk the second hand market :(
Its still in production and can be obtained new, so you still have an opportunity!
@@techtoremember8096 really? I keep seeing articles saying production ceased in summer this year and everywhere is out of stock.
I'm based in Aus which probably adds an extra layer of difficulty to finding one brand new
Pardon me jumping in but I value your opinion. Sony RX10iv or Nikon P950 or Nikon P1000 for bird photography. And yes clearly I'm a newbie! Thx for your help.
Hello there. Wow, that's a tough question. All of those cameras can be used for bird photography. If the MAIN reason you are going to use the camera is bird photography and you will have the camera mounted on a tripod, then I would say the P1000. If you plan on hand-holding then the P950 because its really difficult to get a steady shot at 3000mm without a tripod and the P950 is a lot lighter. The Nikon's clearly have the best zoom so if bird photography is your primary reason, then I would choose the NIkons!
Hello, how many minutes does it take to charge your RX10 camera on average? How many photos can be taken with a single charge?
Hello, it would depend on how you charge the battery. If you use the USB through the camera I believe that's the slowest method and could take a couple hours to fully charge. I personally find it more convenient to use a travel charger and most of them can do it a bit quicker than that. The camera is rated at 400 shots per charge when using the LCD, or 370 shots per charge when using the EVF. Thank you.
@@techtoremember8096 Isn't this number too small? If we say let's take a quick shot, we will drain the entire battery in 10 minutes, right? It seemed like too little to me.
Not sure what you mean. You can take 400 shots on a single battery charge.
Do you think i should get the RX10 M4 or Sony AX700? They're so similar.
Well, they are similar in the sense that they both have 1" sensors but that's about it. The RX10IV is better if you are more into photography because it is a still camera first, and video camera second. The AX700 is better if you like the form factor of a camcorder and I would say it performs better in video.. Better stabilization, more manual controls (although the zoom isn't as long). If you really want the long zoom, then the RX10 is the way to go.
I'm waiting so long now, guess waiting some longer won't hurt! Till then I use my Lumix FZ 1000...
Good move !!!
Anyone any idea where I can get my Sony 10 RX iv repaired? Needs a back viewing screen replaced. I'm in UK. Thank you.
I'm waiting for it to have an equivalent to 1000mm zoom.
Enable CIZ, set file size to medium, aspect ratio to 3:2 and you'll get 1680mm
Hallo,
Gruß aus Deutschland an alle.
Das Video hat mir gefallen.
Ich habe mir die Kamera danach gebraucht gekauft.
Trotzdem hoffe ich, dass es eine MK5 geben wird.
I have had an AX100 and AX700. Both used 1" sensors and both suffer from moire patterns. The RX10 IV is basically a 1" video camera with the ability to take photos. I would have loved to have bought it for video but fear it would suffer the same moire problems. Some say it doesn't as it's an over sampled image in video but I can't see any Sony documents saying that and the videos I can see taken with it often look the same over sharpen moire in leaves and buildings footage. So what would I like from a Sony RX10 V. No moire video, much higher bit rate video, 100mb is not good enough. 10 bit 4.2 2 and 60fps NO crop. Anything else would be a bonus.
I’ve never heard it described as a video camera before. It has the sharpest lens in an all-purpose camera ever…it’s great for all purpose stills photography. I’ve probably taken 100k photos with it and never done a video.
@@leemarkowitz4709concur 100 %
I've been waiting even longer for the "AX800." The AX700 was released in 2017. And the AX43 was 2020. I think Sony has given up on consumer camcorders.
Sony says the RX10 IV will be discontinued now in 2024, with no successor.
The alternatives are now, APS-C cameras with superzoom lenses like the Tamron 16-300mm (28-450) and the likes. Faster AF, better noise handling, higher resolution, etc., in exchange for perhaps lesser lenses.
I used Nikon for years but Fujifilm for travel and would have no hesitation in picking up a RX series camera based on Sony’s technology leadership. The travel camera market has a giant hole in it that smartphones do not fill to the extent that a Sony RX could. Given all the hype around Lyca compact cameras like the Q3, Sony could have positioned the RX1 in that market segment. The RX family of cameras is sorely missed.
You are right! And hopefully comments like these and if they start hearing requests from the market, Sony's thinking might start to change. Right now they are heavily focused on their mirrorless and vlogging divisions and I agree, they are missing an important market segment with the RX series.
There is a market for high quality super zooms but camera manufacturers that produce higher end cameras like Sony probably think they are shooting themselves in the foot to build them. Add a bigger battery, buffer and faster file transfers, upgrade the auto focus to A6700 standards and keep the focal length while making the user interface more intuitive and Sony wouldn't be able to make enough of them. But that would take away sales from the alpha line....maybe. I've seen a lot of folks talking about upgrading the sensor to APS-C size but that comes with a huge penalty in the for of lens size and weight. With current technology the lens would end up being almost double the size it is now to have the same focal range with an APS-C sensor versus the 1" sensor. Sony could split the difference by going with a micro four thirds sensor and keep the size manageable but then how would they make a case for a single use sensor as they would no longer be able to use it in the RX-V's and keep the pocket size or else decrease the reach of the mark 7. Sony has probably left the RX IV as it is because technology doesn't currently allow for it to be better without compromising some things that make it appealing. Not to mention being able to field other cameras with the same sensor. Add that to the potential to cut into their alpha series sales and it's doubtful Sony will update the RX IV unless they think doing so would generate more revenue than they believe they would lose from lost alpha sales. Now, if Sony could revolutionize the 1" sensor to rival APS-C levels of low light capability and dynamic range then they might update it knowing that the self professed pro crowd or those that like to pretend will scoff at a 1" sensor. Then the general public might buy the RX-V and the less informed or those in actual need of something higher end will still buy the alpha series. A win-win for Sony.
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Question for anyone - I just bought a used RX10 IV and the zoom motor makes enough noise that it can be heard in the video as it moves in & out. I never had one of these in my hands before and was wondering if this is normal or is my used one having an issue? I can still return it if not proper!
The ZV-1 also has a very noisy zoom motor.
Hello, while there is a noise when the motor zooms, it has never been an issue for me. I would say if you are shooting in a very quiet room, you may pick up on it, however in most shooting situations or even outside, with an average degree of ambient noise, it should not be an issue. It is possible that your motor is noisier than it should be --I'd recommend going to a Best Buy or some place where you can test another one and compare it to your model to see if there is a difference.
You can zoom in and out all day and there will be no noise
👍 you're absolutely 👍 i am thinking or curious for RX 10 v..😊
If it’s still selling, and it is, obviously (I just bought one!) why improve things only a little - those with the M4 probably won’t upgrade to the M5. It’s my first Sony , and I’m excited to be buying this even though it’s a 2017 model.
This in part to your content here on YT ( interesting and informative by the way!) 🙏😀
Hi there! Congrats on your first Sony. I hope you enjoy it and I think you will. Thanks for your comment too. Much appreciated!
@@techtoremember8096 😀🙏👍 thanks for your Sony RX10 iv content - it helped my decision! I’m sure I’ll love using this, and seeing the results 🙏🙏👍
Hello, how many minutes does it take to charge your RX10 camera on average? How many photos can be taken with a single charge?
the cellphones have been upgraded so much that reduces the requirement of bridge cameras , it would be great if someone do a comparison between this camera and smartphone flagships (iphone 16 promax, vivo x200 pro and ...) to see how different they are in zoom. maybe we dont need these kind of cameras anymore in next years.
Hello cellphones have been upgraded but there's only so much you can do with physics and a tiny lens . The zooms are still heavily digitally assisted and the RX10 offers a true 600mm zoom, coupled with a large piece of Zeiss glass ...no cell phone can come close in zoom quality to this. Sure they both can take great snapshots at wide angle, and you may not be able to tell them apart in those instances, but there is still demand for bridge cameras because of their zoom capabilities for wildlife and birding.
@techtoremember8096 yes i totally agree with you that the phones can not beat the bridge cameras because of the size, however as a normal person ( not a photographer) who likes to play around with the cameras i think is more important that i have my phone always in my pocket and they do some decent photos too. Lately i have been thinking about buying a phone with good camera and zoom ability and i knew about the sony's bridge too, but when i watch the footages i cant really make decision to go for a cheaper phone + sony or to pay extra on phone to have both in one device. In this case, for example 5 years ago it was much more clear for someone like me that it worth to buy phone and camera separately.
I think if someone make some comparisons with different compacts and bridges and new phone cameras it would become very useful for people like me to make a decision.
I would sell most of my ILC gear for an updated RX10 with a better/larger viewfinder, better LCD, faster AF acquisition with better tracking, better weather sealing, z100 battery, a vertical grip option and hopefully expanding the zoom to 20-600. I know it's probably a dream but still. 😉
that's a great dream Lol
I just bought a old new RX10 IV
Nice !
It is just as good as it was 5 years ago and I don't think Sony can make anything much better for the price
It pisses me off that Sony essentially gave up on camcorders and super zoom all in one cameras like this, just as the tech was getting better. Wish we had a RX10 M5 with 4K60p
It's very versitile. Next to it is m43 with 12-200 lens.
That is much less telephoto reach
@@leemarkowitz4709 yes. But now we are in interchangeble lens territory. M43 is still small and versitile. Unfortunately it does not have a 1000fps clips, which is unique for some Sony cameras.
@@pwolkowicki Yeah, mainstream territory is to get slow kit lenses with a restricted zoom range because “nobody” uses P&S in 2023! I actually enjoy going against the mainstream when I use the RX10 IV. I also enjoy using my Canon R7 but I will use that only if I have a more specialized lens on it that will vastly outperform the RX10.
Wouldn't Sony make a public statement that it's the end of the line for the RX10?
Or is that just not something they would do.
You'd think they must have made a decision by now, so why not let their fans know.
They're just toying with us.
One thing I would really like to see is software to control the camera.
I only bought my RX10 iV in September, so the software for it had already been dropped.
I'd assumed they'd dropped it in favour of a better version, but that's not happened either. 😥
Hi there. Did you try the Imaging Edge Software? It's possible they support the RX10IV in this updated version of the Sony app. In answer to your question, I would highly doubt Sony would ever come out and state that the RX line is finished, probably because nothing is ever final and they may want to leave the door open at some point. I believe they are simply focusing now on their more profitable divisions like mirrorless, lenses the vlogging market etc. but if consumer sentiment shifts and they hear enough of a call from the market for an all in one camera, they could always modify their strategy.
2" sensor and removable lens
Duh, just get Sony a7 line
Instead of waiting, I'd be happy with my a6700 and Tamron 18-300.
The good news is that the RX10 V will come out somewhere in march next year! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Where did you hear that ???
@@techtoremember8096 I cannot tell you that unfortunately, but It would be presented at in january in Las Vegas, but the releasedate was replaced to march...
@MrNightowl1980 that’s interesting news - have not heard it anywhere but let’s hope it’s true !
@@techtoremember8096 ues indeed!
@@MrNightowl1980 Finally no news at CES? :-(
I will wait for the V version....
My main reason that I am waiting on the RX10 V is the micro usb. I would have bought the IV long ago, if it had a USB-C. C'mon Sony. Help.
I wonder if any official from Sony watches these videos or looks at the comments?
Let’s hope so !
I think bridge cameras are done really and it's a shame Just like compact cameras, they are a thing of the past. Last one was the FZ1000 Mark II like 5 years ago. Not only do they not sell very well, these companies are trying to protect their cinema lines and/or mirrorless lines. The RX10 IV is also overpriced for what it is. $1,700 for a 1 inch sensor camera with lower end specs is just very poor value. You can get a used FF camera and a great lens or two for that money.
Need to pay double to get the focal range...
I think Sony has stopped making the RX10 serie because it is simply to good comparing to the full frame cameras.
I think that is a distinct possibility!
You mean stopped improving...they're still making them I assume?
Sony are stupid if they don’t make a mk5, will make them a ton of money
A camera is different from other devices like TVs. Lets say you buy a new TY now or wait two years. What does it matter after five years? Nothing. With a camera it is different. Even after 5 years you miss the photos or have them in poorer quality as you had a worse camera.
I doubt there will be any new fixed lens cameras. Soon they may even end production. Canon has canceled its comparable camera G3 X.
still waiting
Uhhhh…. I own an Rx10IV and it does not do well in low light… It is a fabulous walk around camera but when the sun goes down you are done… forget it…
There are ways to make your pictures look better in low light such as limiting your ISO.
people don't buy anymore consumer cameras . they have cell phones . the biggest problem with cameras are the interface that didn't changed much from the early days of digital cameras and the transfer of the photos to the phone . the apps are horrible and don't come near the easy of using the built in camera in the cell phone.
4K 30 lol
many are using cellphones over dead weighted cameras.
sony closed the dsc-rx10 series because the photography has been dead for decades.
For bird photography a cellphone is not a lot of use. When photographing birds there is no substitute for focal length and its almost impossible to have too much.
HI can I have your inquires email?