DPReview TV: Sony RX10 IV Review
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- This week on DPReview TV, Chris and Jordan are off to the sunny shores of the Pacific Ocean in Monterey, California, where they review the Sony RX10 IV. Watch to find out how this all-in-one superzoom camera held up to the sun, surf, and a challenging range of shooting scenarios.
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I like when you guys film with the camera you are reviewing
So do we! We hope to do it often when a camera has compelling video features.
Just bought this camera (May 2023).
It is brilliant. So fast, incredible image quality, fine up to 3200 iso, great 4k video and that lens… peerless.
How do you find the battery life? I've heard not so great things about it.
@@jasonrdunn It's no problem at all.
For the money you paying - it better fckn will be.
Chris yelling "F5.6!!!" made my day =D
I absolutely love that you guys are sticking to what we TCTS TV subscribers love about you. Don't ever change!
8:17 lol that angry shout
JeffDvrx I died
Using the F-word in photography is OK. 🤪
Haha. That shout is exactly why I love watching every video these two guys make 👍
😂😂😂😂
Wow. What a difference when you get the right reviewers for the company. Never a fan of dpreview UA-cam channel review. But now it will be my to go channel for review. Nice job guys. Keep it up. And stay original.
For a lot of people, this is all the camera you'll ever need. And for all the focal length it has, it may be cheaper in the long run than buying multiple lenses. I'm hoping the next version has the new Sony battery and at least UHS-II SD if not XQD for a damn near infinite buffer. The addition of built in ND filters would be awesome even if a bit of bulk was added. The camera has great ergonomics as long as you're not back button focusing. The MI hotshoe is handy too because it allows you to use anything you already have for other Sony cameras. I was able to use a Phottix Odin II on it which is awesome.
The Camera Store bus scene was classic. 👌
Having been an amateur enthusiast with an SLR back in the day and a DSLR up until recently, I lost interest in photography (certainly with the DSLR) for some reason (well, mainly the need to lug bodies and lenses around when I travelled). Now, with a view to getting back into photography by taking advantage of these kinds of cameras that do so much in a single unit, I really appreciate your review. I've just starting looking at the range of bridge cameras out there, and hope to see more from you guys. Clear, concise, honest and entertaining. Keep up the good work.
what about zoom lenses having an approximate range of 18-300mm. Its more or less the same with a bigger sensor and a nice flexible range
Do you think that a 18-300 or 18-400 can take the good quality like this? Because a read bad opinion for tamron 18-400, and the F is worse than this. I d like to see some (vs) picture of the same sobject.
Where da update ? Sony ???
Covid ate it :)
Covid is gone…..
Channel growing???? Of course it's going to grow, especially you are Chris and Jordan. You two guys are a great team and work extremely well together. DP Review is lucky to have you and you them. Your reviews are sensational and the video to match. Keep doing what you are doing and your subscribers will be even larger than they were before. Please don't forget what you always did for the Christmas reviews, when you talked about next years tech over drinks, hilarious. You two are bright stars on the UA-cam horizon. There are plenty of people on You Tube that need to step up their game, but you two are not one of them. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the thorough and cool photographer's-eye-view of this camera.
The best camera review I have ever seen. The stills made me want to go out and take pictures. I don't shoot video often, but I really like Jordan's take on the video capabilities of cameras.
That's high praise! Thank you so much!
Having both in depth photography and video reviews, humour and Canadian make you two my favourite reviewers. You guys and the straight pipes for cars. They also Canadian.
nice to see, that your humor is still around... love you guys...
I bought this camera a couple weeks ago and i'm really loving it. It's perfect for just walking around town taking shots, and it produces video MUCH better than my rebel camera. It's definitely not a camera for a pro sports photog or wedding photog, but for a guy who likes taking photos and making silly youtube videos it's perfect. Also the electric zoom can be controlled with the mobile app which is nice for someone who films themselves with a camera on a tripod.
question if you still have the camera... is the hdmi output 4k?
These were like your best pictures ever in a review, Chris! Really really liked them! :)
I really appreciate hearing that. Thank you so much.
Chris@DPREVIEW
You are best in DP review rather than the TCSTV! All the best for your new journey ✌️
Dang, that girl at 13:25 looked like Jackie Kennedy in some awesome jeans.
Anyway, price and drawbacks aside, the results from this camera were great in my opinion.
I'm not a Sony fan, but they do come out with some very nice gear. Nice review guys.
agreed
I dunno why buy I enjoy listening to Chris. Lmao It feels like a close friend is patiently talking u through everything. And Jordan is always veeery informative with the video part of the review. 👌👌👌. Love that u guys work with DPreview now 😁
We're excited to work with DPReview as well!
...Just have to take a moment to say: these guys are absolutely the best camera reviewers out there. DPR was totally right to snag them from TCS. The. Very. Best.
So much review in one single comedy video!
I’ve got this camera 2 years ago.. I can tell u it’s the best I’ve ever used.. I been using it in every new country I visit.
worth the money?
@@ahmedrashed78 100%
Now that you guys are doing this show on a weekly basis, I am very happy and hope the pressure to produce high quality reviews won't be too great in the long run.
Not a camera that I'm much interested in, but an excellent review as usual. Glad you enjoyed my backyard.
Great review, so comprehensive. You didn't cover minimum focal distance and macro, though. The price seems outrageous, as it appears to be the same hardware as the last generation with some software features like AF and continuous shooting. Lacking IBIS does not make sense, because when you zoom the picture seems to get soft, would be nice if there's IBIS working in conjunction with OIS. Wish there's manual zoom instead, much faster, but that means the lens wouldn't be able to pack up tightly when you turn it off. I like Jordan's idea of having a 24-200 mm lens with constant aperture instead, because 200 mm seems plenty of zoom, yet 600 mm makes it fun, yet images don't seem that sharp when you zoom all the way out. Maybe a competitor can do a 24-200 mm version, maybe Canon could. I've been anticipating this camera for a long time because I want to see a refresh that includes the new features of the rx100 v, especially the AF, which this camera seems to have outdone it with an A9 like AF. I think it's a great camera, but given the huge price increase, the lack of IBIS, and the softness, the slow on/off and the lack of manual zoom, and the small battery, it still doesn't feel perfected. For the price I want a near perfect product. I don't know, even if it were perfect it's still very expensive.
I wonder if they are going to refresh the rx1 next.
Great review. Very thorough and informative. As well as a high production value.
Such a helpful video for someone like me who has recently bought a Sony RX10iv. Thank you!
After a year of other reviews, you guys still top them all. Good explanation about what we want to know and nothing else. I'm sure you have more info on the website for those who are crazy picky with specs that will just be topped with the next camera.
For future videos maybe think about including Dan with short tech analysis? He could record his segment in SF and then you'd merge it with the Canadian side of DPR. Anyway great video as usual, some amazing photos from Chris (3:00) and Dan (13:14), keep it up.
Screen doesnt tilt other way? neither does the A7iii, low battery life? carry spares, to me you are reviewing this like it was a pro camera, fact they put a 600mm is amazing and so is the 24fps, if I had seen this before I bought the A7Riii I might have been tempted.
While it's not a true "pro" level camera - it is amazing for what it is and yes, this review is overly negative compared to most. Like the comment about the zoom being slow...really? Compare it to changing a lens. I get so many shots the interchangeable lens crowd will miss entirely.
Really great to see how fast u guys put out new videos. Thats what i was hoping for when u switched to dpreview. the time between tcstc videos was kinda long and lonely.
I was able to get one used, a few months after initial release. At about 25% less than retail I think this camera is amazing! And the ergonomics - compared to my a6300 it's a dream to hold.
Devan Rawn I sold my A6300 to buy one and so glad I did! 👌
Really? Hmm, maybe I should try this thing.
Tony Gillahan
How about the difference in image quality?
Would you say it is noticeable?
νικος γιώργος a little bit worse IQ but not enough for me to worry about 👍I use it more for video
Thank you guys for your opinion! Now I also want to buy that camera!
Master class on how reviews should be done :)
OMG I 100% agree with Jordan about the RX10 2. I never owned that one, but I've used it, and I tell you what....I was turned off after they went superzoom and variable. If they did like he said, and made it with phase detect....I'd buy one too!
The Fz300 is 2.8 all the way and goes to 600mm(but the AF SUCKS since it's a few years old), so don't see why they couldn't have done the same here.
@@TamanduaGirl the AF of my fz300 is good enough to capture small active birds (like sunbirds) at 600mm equivalent focal length. I even prefer the af speed and decisiveness of my fz300 than my em-1 mark2 which utilize pdaf. Truly impressed by the dfd tech.
I agree with Jordan and thats why I like RX10 Mark 1. 1) Build in ND filter means you never run out of shutter speed and your flash works in the midday sun, and 2) constant 2.8 aperture means your video does not get dark as you are zooming in. RX10 Mark 2 is even better because it adds 4K. Mark 3 and Mark 4 removed the ND filter and changed it to variable aperture cameras.
It is variable aperture mainly because the lens is 3 times the size of the mk 1 and 2.
Your Photos were on Point today Chris.
Thanks Emmanuel! I was feeling the camera on this trip. It does impart a sense of confidence when using it. Nice when a camera just works well. The overwhelming consensus on this camera is that its a solid performer so they did something right.
Chris@DPREVIEW
Chris Niccolls yeah. i wasn't really impressed with the camera until i saw those amazing pictures
Yeah Chris, I do mean this as a compliment but your photos this time had the highest 'pause' rate for me. Wherein I actually paused the video to just enjoy the wonderful photos. Not saying that your work earlier was poor. Just saying that you've obviously hit a high note.
Good to know the camera also felt right. Out of all the UA-camrs I keep up with, your opinion is the one I trust the most.
If anyone in Sony reads this, all I want in RX10 V (not necessarily for Cristmass) is (in order of priority):
-UHS-II card slot
-Focus point joystick
-Improved IS
-Improved weather-sealing
-Their best AF in all non-HFR modes
-Dual gain ISO
-USB C for power, charging and data transfer
-fully articulated touchscreen
-bigger battery with longer battery life
-tripod screw mount closer to the lens and not near the edge
-5/6K30p 8-bit 4.2.0 (10-bit would be awsome) - internal
-4K30p 10-bit 4.2.2 full width, oversampled (60p would be awsome) - internal
-HFR same as RX10 IV but at slightly better quality
-24-bit audio without XLR adapter?
I would pay any money!
Minivan of cameras - haha, so true! I got the RX10 III for my mom and she loves it. Great review guys!
This is as good an ad for Monterey as it is for the RX10 IV. And that means great. I was just in Monterey last weekend and, having been there dozens of times, I never tire of it. And as much as I resist getting a bridge camera (even though I've owned two 1-inch models) I would love to get my hands on one of these Sonys. Good job.
Love y'all's reviews! So informative and you make it so fun to watch!
Excellent job on the video guys, lots of great shots too.
very fair review Chris and Jordan...one of my favorite Sony cameras ever...and Jordan, I am with you -- I would like the RX10II v2 as well!! Give me the PDAF, back button focus, stacked sensor AND the NDs and you've got a fantastic camera! Nice to see you guys at Kando!!
Love your work guys 👌 great balance of entertainment and information 😃
8:14 best scene of any camera review ever in recent history hahahaha
You guys did so amazing on this review!!
High praise coming from you! Thanks!
I just watched the conclusion and it was exactly what i expected to hear. What i didn't expect was for this camera to be one of your first Dpreview video reviews. Have people really been asking for this ?
I will be waiting for the Tamron 28/75 f2.8 e mount review and the Sigma 70 macro and 105 f1.4
e mount reviews.
Nice review. Also about time DP-review got longer videos about cameras.
I took a bit of a gamble purchasing the RX10 M4, having never owned a bridge camera before, having previously owned a 350D and a 450D Canon SLRs (and the A1 film camera before that). I'm not much into video, so cannot comment on that authoritatively, but I love the long lens range zoom wise, the autofocus, and the slowmo (though I agree with your criticism of having to prefocus and prezoom then you are locked out). Other than travel, I am mainly photographing cricket, and it's a game where pre-focusing a bowler or a batsman is not a blocker in use. A few things you did miss 1) The eye viewfinder does not show 100% of what gets recorded, I only noticed as at 24mm with the lens hood on the corners of the photo show parts of the lens hood 2) I am unable to do macro photography a la SLR with it 3) Panning photography in bright light is a no no (this is due to the lack of an ND filter that was mentioned in the video context, but I could not shoot panning shots of dragon boats in Thailand in bright sunshine). 4) If using 'Clear Image Zoom' where software interpolates beyond the optical zoom, the autofocus can sometimes fail big time. You essentially lose the auto tracking.
But it's the most amazing camera I've ever owned in terms of versatility, perhaps a companion compact camera to fill the holes mentioned above would be the ideal travelling combination
You shouldn't see the lenshood, are you sure it wasn't screwed on in the wrong orientation? I've done this before with other models.
That snap at 3:04 of the model and image is stunning. Well done.
I like the minivan 🚐 analogy. Took me 3 sittings to watch this review. Difficult for me to get intrigued by a minivan. Lol. As always though happy to watch the content!
I just bought this one...can't wait to put it to use!! Thanks for the detailed review!
i love the rx10 ii . its an amazing camera, and man those rx10's just get great video.
Awesome! Seems like nothing has changed with the move in terms of your videos! Also, I was really impressed with the sharpness of the video on this camera. Watching on my 4k screen I was leaning in to look at all of Jordan's beautiful sharply rendered stubble!
Just got this camera. Surw hope the next version has a few tweeks thats for sure. But I'm excited to put this one to use until the mark V comes out.
Just picked one up, for a bridge camera it is great. I love having the reach and I am willing to give up sensor size for what I need it for.
I think for it to be a good family camera, it needs:
1. videoshoot piano recitals. How does it work in low light, how is the onboard mic, does it overheat, does it have the 30 minute shooting limit, how long does the battery last.
2. Trips to the zoo. It has nice zoom, so its covered.
3. Per wee sports game. The electronic zoom's slowness could be an issue? Good to have the new AF here.
4. Ease of use, intuitive UI, which seems to be a little lacking here.
Fu Chen go with the rx10ii for the family aspect, better deal overall.
as stated in the review the one inch sensor impedes its low light functionality. onboard mic is just ok.. use an external mic since it has a jack for it. Yes it has a 30 minute video limit. battery rated at 400 shots. Its a great camera for me. I love it!
I am not a photographer and have no expertise in the field. I am an IT Director by profession and enjoy exploring features, tweaking, etc. I want to be able to take the best shots I can on an Alaskan cruise we are taking next year. A guy at B&H Photo recommended the Rx10 IV to me based on some things I told him (i.e. I explore features, photograph landscapes, wildlife, sports and evening activities downtown. Objective reviews really help as I zero in on what I want to purchase. Many thanks.
I’ve had the RX10 IV for 3+ years and it’s great! I love my A7RIII, but the long zooms are just to large and bulky. This camera is light to carry, the perfect travel camera.
Can the RX10 IV use Catalyst software image stabilization? Apparently it used gyroscopic data to fix the video in post processing. But I can't figure out if the IV allows this? The RX10 II is listed as being compatible, but I can't find out if the IV is.
Would you still recommend this camera in 2022? I'm in the market for a new camera for traveling and such, but I'm not sure if I want to wait for the mark 5 that might not come or one of the new mirror less that I'm not used to.
It's kind of ironic that as a professional, having owned the top Nikon, Canon and even Sony cameras and bevy of lenses (such as the A7RII) I backed away from them all for the RX10MkIV. I have always liked Chris's reviews and while indeed it becomes necessary for various reasons to criticize each and every camera at some point, as NONE are perfect for all purposes, the RX does a remarkable job at being that "jack of all trades" conceptually. As a professional real estate photographer I've been finding it has been easily meeting all my needs providing not only great individual shots but now I'm mastering the use of their in built panorama to my clients delight. With a modest amount of post processing (through my fav ACDSee Photo Studio Ultimate 2018) it renders wonderful final shots for my purpose. I happen to love Landscape work and find that for both that AND portrait work I've been commissioned on, it once again gives me large enough and clean enough files to render superb prints. So I'll take the bites from these pro reviews only to say it beats laying out $7.000 for the A7III options to accomplish the same thing for me in one easy to carry camera.
Well said. This camera is amazing but I felt this review was overly negative.
Great review, I subscribed! I have the RX10 Mk1 and I absolutely love that camera for travel, specially the lens. I'd also buy the proposed RX10 Mk ii 2 (with 24-200mm f/2.8 lens and the new sensor). Greetings from Brazil.
I cut my teeth with Minolta - when Sony bought the camera division I waited to see how things would go. So the first releases of Sony DSLRs backwards compatible with Minolta AF (D) lenses and flashes so all was well. So now my aging Alpha A350 body (14 MP) is now so dated. I've just now started to look around for my successor - this Bridge camera seems like a winner. It will not take the place of the truly Pro stuff but it is way above the typical point and shoot offerings out there. So The RX10 IV is my number one choice at this moment. My not willing to start over with a expensive DSLR set up of body, 6 lenses and high end flash. It would be $10K or more to replace everything I now have but be up to date. So onward with the RX10 (probably) Thank you for this review. I found it very helpful.
Great Vid as usual! More please very soon!!!!
Would be nice to compare with Panasonic FZ2500, or... gulp, FZ300....
I take photo with this camera .It's amazing for nature , street and Portrait photography.
Great review! There was no mention of what you were using for recording audio though. Particularly on that zoom-in test video. I didn't see a lavaliere mic there, but you had one hidden, obviously. What did you use during that video shoot? I'm looking for a good mic setup for video, so I'd appreciate your response. Thx!
Those were some really nice shots all things considered.
I love bridge cameras for HD video. Close-up/macro photography is also excellent. These days it's not about the camera so much as it is what a photographer can manipulate an image using software editing tools. Still undecided, since I have no real use for Raw images.
Still in a indecisive mood as to the Sony RX10IV or the Nikon P1000. Whichever the product I order from B&H Photo...it'll be my "B," camera for four or five years.
I see you guys listen to criticism. Number of dpreview mentions per minute has dropped significantly and now at appropriate level.
Yah I definitely cut it out for this video! We do listen and appreciate your feedback.
Chris@DPREVIEW
Thank you for the great review! Love my RX10 III. The review did not quite answer whether the RX10 IV is a worthy upgrade, but still enjoyed hearing your opinions a lot. Never looked at it as the minivan of cameras, but love the analogy.
Great review as usual, but please don't make the mistake of attributing weak low-light capabilities to a small sensor. The RX10 IV doesn't struggle in low light because it has a small sensor, it struggles because it has a very slow variable aperture f/6.5-f/10.8 lens (35mm equivalent).
Please ask your colleague Richard Butler, if you don't believe me.
It is complete and utter nonsense to provide the focal length range with 35mm equivalent numbers but not convert the f-stops as well. Again, Richard Butler wrote useful articles about this.
BTW, all Sony cameras I've seen produce beautiful colours and the RX10 IV is no exception. Too bad that Sony cameras don't make sense ergonomically for me.
You guys are showing screenshots from the website, but it's visible too short to get understand what the screenshot is actually comparing (which settings, which cameras in comparison, how the results compare etc.). So either leave out the screenshots or assist the user in understanding what is shown.
I do have this camera and agree low light is a issue but get the light on the subject and it Booms into action. love it but need a camera for that low light shot. enjoyed the video you sum it up well. thanks,, I'm now a subscriber... Ding
Smashing performance as always boys, indepth review, nice dialogue and classic corny humour, photo and video facilities compared and demonstrated .
But would and could you guys do a video about the best and worst of the bridge camera sector, what they are great for and in particular the FZ 2500 .
It looks amazing, fully loaded and it's a Sony, so you can't go wrong. I've had a Sony F828 and it's still my favourite since 2004. This Mark IV is on my wish list. 😊
Very nice job, Chris and Jordan, as usual. I'm glad DPR sniped you. I can actually support DPR by clicking on links to buy, whereas I couldn't reasonably support The Camera Store.
Here's a video idea: Sony RX10 IV vs. an entry level APS-C camera with a couple lenses to make up the difference in cost. For example, and entry-level Nikon APS-C camera, a 24-120 lens and then a wide angle or telephoto? This is a good way to highlight what a fellow can get for his money.
Subscribed.
Great test you two. The video quality out of this camera looks about like I thought it would, maybe a bit worse. If it was shot in S-Log 2, maybe I’d have a slightly different opinion, but the tight highlight roll off, absence of really any shallow DoF, soft image quality during long zooms, small sensor color palate/control, idk- I hoped I’d be more impressed. It reminds me of the X70 camcorder (for obvious reasons). Good test though guys.
Fantastic review!! I always learn a lot from you guys and you’re a lot of fun too. I’ve also subscribed.
I'm still thinking about buying one, but waiting for RX10mkV..... great review :D
So this is where I hang out for camera updates now since they moved out from TCS
This is the sharpest image in 4K I've seen for a long time! My A7R III doesnt do 4K that sharp!
Really do You think that? I want a camera, and I don't know what's is better option for vídeo (My first interst is Image Quality): RX10 IV or A6300+ 16-70 f4 zeiss
Great review! Until this video, I was thinking to myself that since you guys moved to DPReview it seemed like you lost some of your mojo from your previous channel. Very entertaining and informative.
The RX10 is still great in a athletics stadium. Compact for such a great reach.
I AM LOOKING FOR:
Smallrig L-bracket nr 2230.
I sold my rx10m3 to buy the M4 specifically for the improved autofocus. But it seems to me that Sony keeps taking features away from this camera.
First the loss of natural density filter, now loss of apps. Without the Remote app and time lapse, I would give the M4 a pass
As from this day on you will be known as 'Creeper Chris' :) great review as always guys and great to see you are settling in well into your new home, pipe and slippers yet?
Very cool video! It's a really nice camera! But i would prefere an a6xxxx cam. Best regards!
Not interested of this camera, but thanks for another great review! Always rocking it good. Only thing i still want to mention was that the stills were a tad underexposed through-out. But then again, that's all subjective and they were exposed to your preference, but i felt like i want to amp the exposure in almost all of the photos.
Ohh yeah! We all want a Sony Cyber-shot RX10 II M2, ohh god!..
with:
24 MP with a New Sensor Includind a 6k Downscale to 4k Video; Dual Native ISO 800/6400; 10-Bit video 422 Internal; 15 Stop of Dynanmic Range, S-Log 3 / HDR Video; S-Cinetone; Flip Out Screem, with the Newer Sony Nenu system.
Obviously, keeping the 24-200mm F2.8 (or a F2.4 Upgrade) with Biult in ND filter.
Video 4k up to 30p 10-bit 4:2:2; 60p 4k and 120p/180/240 sharp FullHD in 10-bit 4:2:0; Up to 480p 8-bit 4:2:0,
I think is time for an upgrade of the Sony Cyper-Shot RX10 Line, no after.
No one woulb buy it over all those upgrade cameras on the market right now.
Very useful review Just saved me from making a big mistake in buying this for shooting birds
8:17 xD
Damn how I love DPreview! Thanks for the great job in this review!
It is listed as $2500 in Australia. A7iii body is $3000. I suppose one of the main question would be your budget.
I'm trying to decide between this, the Panisonic Fz2500 and the Nikon P1000.
Video will be school events in halls and the occasional sporting days.
Primarily will be still shots. I love nature shots, especially birds and long exposures of waterfalls. Given that, i feel the low light capabilities is a must, but sometimes with nature it is impossible to get close to what you are photographing, hence i need a decent zoom with good quality images.
Any suggestions or guidance?
Just like Jordan said, 24-200 f2.8, fz100, nd, and taking photos while recording. We needs rx10mark2 ver 2！
The main contender - yet not mentioned ? Panasonic Fz2500.
@4:54 FYI, the aperture ring click can be toggled using the switch on the bottom of the lens.
Yas the butterfly bag is back!
Yay! You noticed! Thanks for being a loyal viewer all these years!
Chris@DPREVIEW
Chris there is a button that moves the zoom slower more precisely. If you are doing a review, you should know these things!
The RX10iv images look so flat and compressed. Nevertheless, great compositions, and I especially liked shots by Dan Bracaglia.
@ 8:21 lmfao Chris 😂