I have one, was playing street fighter zero 2 dash with a friend and the music kept cutting out. I've heard issues with other fighters as well and there being some fixes; I think I have to submit a bug report. Resetting the console with the 4mb ram cart doesn't seem to boot back to the satiator either. Hopefully compatibility continues to improve!
I own a Satiator and MODE, and hands down the later is a much more developed product. This is defintely a BETA product which will improve in time. Still waiting on Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter to work. Game tends to boot you back to the multiplayer after playing several rounds. Some games tend to break after fixing other issues. Luckily Prof Abrasive is on it for the most part.
I like living in a world where if an expansion slot or port exists on a piece of hardware, someone is going to invent something to utilize it in a way the original designer never intended nor could have imagined.
"...or maybe you just want to run everything on a raspberry pi, and make sure that everyone on the internet knows that you'd rather run everything on raspberry pi." This got me good, never change my friend : )
Well I have a raspberry pi. I'd love to run Saturn games on there but it's not powerful enough yet. Maybe by the raspberry pi 6 it will be powerful enough.
In the russian forums, when a piece of retro hardware like Genesis or SNES or PSX is discussed, there's always a ton of folks with comments like "lol $$$$, me gonna buy a Raspberry pi instead"
Probably, or maybe "Sey-shi-e-taa". It says セイシエター, so you could argue it's "Sē-shi-e-taa" (long e, not "say"), but if they just wanted a long e, they could have used the extension character ー instead of イ (I) there. By the way, it's curious they wanted to make the last vowel long as well with that extension.
@@SimonPiano42 That long final syllable may just be due to how different the Japanese R sounds are from the English R sounds. Like they're approximating the English R maybe?
Hey Joe, just a quick clarification about the exFAT situation: Prof went back and forth on supporting it a couple times. At first he thought it was not going to be possible to support it, at least not while still being able to update the firmware due to a memory limitation, however he did find a workaround. Later on the issue was the cost of licensing exFAT from Microsoft, but he was able to score a volume license relatively inexpensively through a third party, so in the final release it is supported! That Patreon post you quoted was from over a year ago before he found that licensing solution.
There is firmware update for the Action Replay cart by Professor Abrasive and it works great. Allows the Action Replay to be used and when you press the button combination will boot back to the Satiator game select screen. I have seen few games that will not go back but overall works great and very useful.
@@Shark97281 You don't actually need to copy memory to system to make it work. The way the Satiator works is that if you press the reset button on the console, it bypasses the Satiator menu. The Satiator will keep loading whatever game you selected until you power cycle the console. Thus if you have a patched Action Replay cart and press the reset button, it loads into the cart. The Action Replay cart will not work without patching due to the way the unpatched AR loads its code into memory. When you want to go back into the Satiator menu, just power cycle the Saturn. I also had a flash error when I first tried. I was following the instructions exactly (insert the cart after loading the Satiator menu), but as it turns out, these cartridge slots and carts seem to be rather finicky, so I reseated the cart and it flashed properly. Other people have had the same problem with the same solution.
@@Shark97281 Oh, okay. I misunderstood what you said. Yeah, saving on the AR cart is nice because the system memory fills up so quickly. You can certainly do that, but you just don't have to in order to make the AR cheats work. That's what I meant. "re you telling me that the satiator somehow made it possible to load games from my AR card?" No. If you select a game using the Satiator menu, and then hit the reset button, the Satiator menu is bypassed. So if you don't have a cart inserted, it will just load the game you selected previously. If you do have a cart installed, it'll boot off the cart and you can use it to select whatever cheats you want before loading the game. The game always loads off the Satiator, as it would if you put a disc in. The AR cart doesn't have enough storage to hold an entire CD game.
@@Shark97281 I'm looking into it right now. Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter is one of the games that has had the most problems. Are you on the latest firmware and menu? Current versions are 157 and 64. I can load matches just fine without any glitches but between rounds it will occasionally kick me back to the Satiator menu. I just tried something: I selected the game, then at the Start screen I hit reset on the console to boot into the AR. Then I started the game that way. I played through four rounds of fights before I lost and went back to the Start screen, played another round and it was still working. So give that a try. Edit: Never mind! I just tried it again, and upon pressing start, it kicked me back to the CD player screen. I think we'll just need to wait for more fixes before this game works perfectly. Lots of people have reported varying degrees of the game working and then not working.
@@Shark97281 Hey, sorry I didn't respond sooner. The only translation I've currently loaded up is the Policenauts translation, which I downloaded as a patched version from somewhere (I honestly can't remember). But usually the mnethod is that you take the original game ISO and use a utility to patch the game, creating a new ISO. Then you'd just copy that to the Satiator. Are you asking about how to patch and create a translated ISO? I've never done that but I'm sure I could figure it out if that's what you're asking. Otherwise you can always search for a pre-patched version, although you probably want to make sure it's a final version made from a legit ISO dump, which isn't always easy. Like I said, once it's patched you just load the patched ISO onto the Satiator like any other game. It should work just like the unpatched game.
Having used a RetroPi, I find it decent but the button configuration was too frustrating. They put the menu hotkey on Start and Select... which you need to reset GB/GBA games or manually save in Zelda GB games. And I agree on how annoying those people are. We get it, you pirate and have low standards. Now please shut up and let other people have their fun.
@@penismightier9278 yesh, the classic xbox emulators were a lot more friendlier when it comes to button configuration and they always set the menu button to the R3 buttons.
@@penismightier9278 I'd get the terraonion mode for Saturn or any ode device. The main reason is that plenty of Saturn games are close to or exceed 100 dollars each per game. Ode devices are pretty much unavoidable these days.
Here we go :), I have been interested in this device. I have a Saturn, only a hand full of games, and sadly some have disc rot. Although its not something I would buy right now, I am happy something like this exists.
5:49 So it lets you play backups? That's actually a really good feature. As this video shows, there are some games that have issues. If the Satiator lets you play backups, then for those games with issues, just burn a CD. That, in a way, fills in the holes.
I bought one of these and so far I absolutely love it. Can still play CD games, but for convenience sake the thing is just incredible. Now I can play Super Tempo without spending hundreds of dollars!
I think it's a lifesaver for folks with large libraries of retail games. I never installed an HDD into my PS2 Slim because I have a few sweet black CDs to spin in it, so I boot all my... cough, backups, cough off an USB stick.
@Por Qué? Really? Have you seen what Saturn games are going for now. Just being able to play the English versions of Dragon Force, Burning Rangers, and Panzer Dragoon Saga on actual hardware make this worth it.
Would you say it's worth getting if affordability isn't an issue? I've got a Fenrir for one of my Saturn consoles, and it's good, but I have been having some problems, primarily because of issues with seating the ribbon and having to unscrew and remove the cover each time I need to fix or amend the game list.
If you're willing to spend the money on it, and you're on the fence, let me just say that you should probably buy it. The thing is, some of the downsides that Joe mentions are just due to ignorance (no offense to Joe, I had to figure them out myself). The AR cart flash failure, for instance, is a common occurrence due to the cartridge slot and cartridge. All he needed to do was re-seat the cart and it would have worked. Likewise, once patched, you can use the AR cart as you normally would, by simply selecting a game off the Satiator menu, then pressing the reset button on the console itself. This bypasses the Satiator menu, allowing you to boot into the AR cart. The Satiator will load whatever game you selected prior to hitting reset. And regarding another thing that Joe mentioned, there IS a way to get back to the Satiator menu. You simply press A+B+C+Start. Normally this soft resets the game, but if you do it again once you're at the title screen, it will take you back to the Satiator menu. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work in every game. Some games will just keep soft resetting. I'm not sure if this is something that Abrasive can eventually solve or if it's how the game was programmed. It may be the latter. One thing to keep in mind is that Professor Abrasive is constantly updating this and seeking feedback to create bug fixes. So if there is a specific bug you experience with a game, hop into his discord and tell him directly. He's usually pretty quick on fixing bugs. If the price really bothers you and you don't mind modding your console, get a MODE. It's a great device that seems to work very well with Saturn and Terraonion makes some great products. They're also not a one-man job. I personally am a bit too attached to my Saturn to discard parts and solder things to the board when there's a plug-and-play option available. Also, I happen to think that this device is incredibly ingenious and I'm happy to support all of the amazing work that went into making it. It works well for most of the games I have played and I love that my Saturn is still completely stock. It is such a unique device and it works well enough that I'm really happy I bought one. It'll only get better with time, but as is it's already great. By all means, buy what suits you best! I'm just trying to help provide another perspective.
Same here. I have no problem modding a cheap, common console like a PSX but the Saturn is a little more dear to me, and it still works perfectly so I'd rather not toss out the optical drive and solder a bunch of stuff to the board. IMO it's worth every penny. Really slick little device. Abrasive is constantly updating it and fixing little bugs. I'd like to point out that Joe's failure to flash his AR cart is a common problem and is caused by the cartridge slot and the cart itself, not the Satiator. I got the same error and just had to re-seat the cart to get it to work. Once you patch it, you can use the AR by selecting a game from the Satiator menu and then hitting the reset button on the console. This bypasses the Satiator menu and boots you into the AR cart, and whatever game you selected will continue to load until you power cycle the Saturn.
I got one of these. I was never going to remove my CD drive- I think a lot of folks are going to regret doing that. I love how easy going it is with game formats, most everything works. I’ve only experienced one glitch (Burning Rangers intro locks up after a few reruns- no biggie). Meanwhile, while I own no multi-disc games, I wonder if you can just use your original media or CDR’s to solve that rare problem.
I bought mine immediately. Although I’m hesitant to buy a 1 T SD card. It’s almost $200! The Satiator saves a lot of hassle of taking the Saturn apart and I can still play physical games, if I so choose. I would highly recommend this product over any of the others. It’s worth the price for sure. Thanks Joe for covering this.
I did, but a 1 terabyte can hold all of the games. My 256 gb from Walmart is still in the packaging and I might return it for the 1 tb on Amazon. The 1 tb on EBay sells a lot of fakes.
@@shaggymcdaniel3216 256 is more than enough to put all the games worth playing and most of the bad ones too lol...if you need all the video dating discs then maybe u need more but u could get by with even 128 and have everything you'd have even the most remote interest in playing in your lifetime
@@shaggymcdaniel3216 I'm counting those as well, including the English patched ones that are worth playing. If you skip the hundreds of video dating/soft porn titles 256 will fit em all. If you want everything including the most garbage bin titles than yeah u need more but everything that's even moderately worth playing...
That was I was thinking, satiator seems like one of those devices that would be great when they were released shortly after announcement. But came out way to late with a better and cheaper alternative for the vast majority of users.
Nice review; I have a Satiator myself and wrote a blog post on it a few weeks ago; I think you should be able to go from an unmodded AR cart to the Satiator menu by pressing "C" like you were going to go to the CD player, as it looks like the Satiator hijacks the CD player.
I didn’t think to check the FMV games, but the only game I had a problem with was In The Hunt. Turns out, the problem was with my “backup”, which has been confirmed to have been a problem with the actual game. To properly boot this US version, you have to unplug the controller as soon as you launch it from the Satiator menu. After the intro scene plays, you’ll get to the title screen, and you can play the game. The JP version does not exhibit this problem, btw.
I saw the Satiator is for sale. I tell myself "I'll buy one tonight". I take a nap. This video launches while I'm asleep. The Satiator is out of stock. Literally "snooze you lose"
I like game sack because you are a profesional and perfectionist, it shows the amount of work and dedication to your videos, and you never stop improving the quality, specialy the sound (following since you started). But the thing I enjoy the most is your sense of humor. It goes beyond video games. Thank you.
Just for clarification at 7:44 - Many people use the AR as an 4mb because the official hardware is sometimes hard to get a hold of. So there you go if you need an 4mb cart!
One of the most recurrent thoughts I have while watching GameSack episodes that features consoles I didn't have the chance to own is "hey, that' seems like a pretty cool game that I'd like to play over many modern ones that I end up playing because of easier accesibility". Even if no new videogame came out ever again, I have a ton of older ones in my backlog. I just wish Sega released some kind of mini-saturn & dreamcast.
The Sega Saturn was really at risk of being forgotten about considering how hard it was to emulator and play backups on the original console. For years there was little to no option for emulation and flash cards, the tech was just too awkward and most of the people who tried over the last 20+ years gave up. Only recently has there been great strides made in the scene and I'm so glad we are finally at the start perfecting plug and play solutions and reliable emulators for the system. We may even get streaming speedrunners interested in the system which will really give the Saturn a new lease of life.
Yeah, but it's too bad the TG16 has to downgrade the game to an 8-bitiesh Sega Master System style to run. At least he does it in real time, I give you that.
@@CousinHubertRetrogaming Unfortunately it doesn't, and I doubt it ever will as it has no major processing chips on it (that I'm aware of). You'd probably need an FPGA on board to double as an MPEG card.
*Plays literally every Saturn game in existence including translations of games Americans never got to play. *Plug and play. Buy it, put it in Saturn, play forever. *250 dollars. Not seeing the problem here guys.
It does support exfat. Also supports action replay cart but you need to flash it with the patch on the official satiator wiki. When you have a patched at cart you can reset from game into satiator menu buy pressing start+a+b+c. Multi disc games are not currently supported.
Well, hot-swapping isn't supported but multi-Disc games like Panzer Dragoon Saga work fine. It's just games like D which kinda throw a wrench into things.
It seems really interesting, but like a lot of these, it has some problems that need to get ironed out. I like the packaging though. Would’ve loved to see how Sonic Jam and Sonic R ran with this. Sonic games are typically very interesting to me with these videos.
The "issues" have almost entirely been ironed out. Some of these things he has issues with are described on the wiki and discord. Sonic R, Sonic Jam, Sonic Z-treme, Sonic 3D Blast all work awesome
Pretty much everything has already been solved. So I guess it means we can stop complaining about compatibility issues and start focusing on why it costs 260 dollars instead.
@@FamilyTeamGaming The man should be paid for his decade of work discovering how all this works (Saturn is infamously difficult to reverse-engineer) and I'm sure the small-run manufacturing costs aren't great on most retro-gamer hardware. Cheaper devices required less work to create and/or have been able to lower their prices as they understand how big a manufacturing run they can do (and didn't have to launch first runs in a pandemic)
A somewhat I'll informed review. There are many revisions of the Action Replay and support is gradually being added for flashing all the different models. Mine was initially not supported but within a week, a firmware update added support. exFAT has also been explained. Being a Microsoft licensed file system, support was not added initially due to cost. Later the developer found a cost effective way to sub-license it and so added support to all but the early models of the Satiator. All of this has been explained by Professor Abrasive.
I mean, some individual games run higher than this, so I really don't get that complaint. Yeah, it's expensive. But it does what no other product can do. I guess it really depends on how much you like the Saturn and how much you value a plug-and-play solution. Personally, I like the fact that I didn't have to modify my Saturn since it's not nearly as common as something like the PSX.
@@rars0n Yep. With games like Super Tempo, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Hyper Duel, or even Shinrei Jusatsushi Taroumaru commanding several thousands in some instances these days, any ODE or flash cart for the Saturn starts to pay for itself quickly.
@@AceTrainerX3 Not to mention, you don't ever have to worry about discs scratching or rotting, your laser wearing out, or just maintaining a huge collection of media. For me, I'd much rather have a digital storage of all my games that I can instantly choose from even if I already have the games sitting on the shelf. So really, you aren't just paying for the engineering that went into the device, but also all of the benefits it provides you, one of which is not having to seek out and pay for ridiculously priced games. Well worth it IMO.
Admittedly, the Satiator is pretty expensive compared to other ODEs. However, it is the most ingenious ODE available. You are paying for all of the amazing work that went into making it. My Saturn still works fine, so I like the fact that I didn't need to remove the optical drive or modify the console in any way. Dr Abrasive is updating this thing constantly and if you have any particular issues with it you can hop into his discord and talk to him directly. Or you may even be able to find a solution from the other members there. I like how it favors function over form and the menu is super fast. Given the convenience of it, I think it's worth the price. If you're willing to mod your own Saturn and don't want to spend as much money, MODE is probably the way to go. But I do really appreciate the immediacy of a plug-and-play device like this. And also keeping my console intact and original.
You know, I was right there with you. But as I was looking for options like the MODE and modding my Saturn, it would probably cost more with labor and shipping and such (I'm definitely not tech savvy). Plus the Saturn stays in it's original form. I think I'll bite the bullet and finally order this thing...definitely took long enough!
Sega just need to come out with a really good Saturn compilation or mini console. So sick of them focusing solely on Mega Drive with a sprinkling of Dreamcast.
Just release them on current gen consoles. Heck even the switch should be able to handle some saturn games emulated. Segata Sanshiro runs well on the nvidia sheild tv
@@thisisakodibox2635 yeah if they give me a way to show my support financially I will. Don't want to have to resort to the grey area of emulators etc. They have a captive audience who they're basically ignoring (much like Nintendo)
@@pb879 just because it's not 100‰ accurate doesn't mean it doesn't need to exist. Getting real hardware hooked up to modern displays is difficult for a lot of people. Plus the games cost alot. Plus I'd like to be able to support the growth of this sort of thing. I think it's valuable and important to look back and to allow the general buying public an opportunity to get a feel for older games. If it gets at least 90% there in terms of accuracy that's okay with me. It's all about enjoying the games.
I’ve never owned a Saturn so I can’t say for sure if I’d want one. I’ll probably stick to emulation on my PC for now. With every passing year, emulation gets better and better, but it still can’t replace the nostalgia of hardware and that sweet smell of ozone from the console and CRT TV screen buzzing on. Also, the end card bits are always funny. Keep it up Joe!
It gets better and better but it will always be inaccurate and never like the real machine. Plus you don't need to play the Saturn on a CRT with all the many upscaler options.
Unfortunately not, that's set in hardware, so you'll need to install a switch of some sort. Depending on the hardware revision this can be an easy mod where you can just solder in a switch to some unpopulated pads in the battery compartment, but other revisions require more aggressive changes (cutting tracks or lifting chip legs).
The Sega Saturn is a underrated system, I never had one I never knew it existed until around 2008 they only Sega system I knew existed was the Genesis I grew up playing Nintendo and PlayStation
I think there's still some timing issues with a few games when it comes to streaming data off "the disc," but Abrasive is constantly updating it. If you have a problem with a specific game, you can let him know about it on his discord and he will usually have a fix for it very quickly. It's worth pointing out that the error Joe got when attempting to flash his AR cart is common and is caused by the cartridge slot and cartridge, NOT the Satiator. All he had to do was re-seat the cart and try again. Once flashed, the AR works as it normally would. To use it, you just select the game you want to play from the Satiator menu, and then hit the reset button on the console. This bypasses the Satiator menu, and with the flashed AR cart installed, loads that instead. Is it absolute perfection? No, not really. But it works perfectly with most games. Is it expensive? Sure, but it's still a lot cheaper than buying all of the games individually. And it installs in seconds, requiring zero modification of the console. The main reason I bought one is because my Saturn still works perfectly and I didn't want to remove the optical drive and solder stuff inside it when this option was available. I still have plenty of games on disc, and while I doubt I'd play them that way very often, at least I have the option to do so. If you don't want to spend that much and you don't mind modding the console, just get a MODE instead. Those seem to work great on Saturn as well. The Satiator is a really clever method of implementing an ODE and I wanted to support all of the work that Abrasive put into making it a real product.
Considering how long people have waited for a plug and play way to play Saturn games on the original system from an SD card, the fact that it was invented and it now exists for the first time is more of what you are paying for, because it sure didn't exist beforehand. Of course you could choose to save some money if you were willing to take your Saturn apart with careful soldering and chance of bricking your console. The fact that this is released to the public also might result in someone reverse engineering and cheaper copy cats emerging.
Is the Satiator something you'd be interested in getting for your Saturn... or if you had a Saturn?
It's not for me ... but learning about it from The 'Sack certainly is. Guess I'm weird like that.
I love my Saturn and I would get it but it's a tad expensive.
I have one, was playing street fighter zero 2 dash with a friend and the music kept cutting out. I've heard issues with other fighters as well and there being some fixes; I think I have to submit a bug report. Resetting the console with the 4mb ram cart doesn't seem to boot back to the satiator either. Hopefully compatibility continues to improve!
I own a Satiator and MODE, and hands down the later is a much more developed product. This is defintely a BETA product which will improve in time. Still waiting on Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter to work. Game tends to boot you back to the multiplayer after playing several rounds. Some games tend to break after fixing other issues. Luckily Prof Abrasive is on it for the most part.
I have a Saturno but not all those money.
Better go with a Fenrir.
I didn’t realize how much I needed Japanese Craig Stadler in my life.
so true
@UC66r8zmU85qNsccaOvLembA He doesn't actually ask if you can stick it in him does he?
Bet you can't get it inside of mine...tomodachi-san.
I KNOW, Right?
Kawaiii!
"I'm Joe Redifer and Sandisk is my favorite SD card on the Citadel"
I like living in a world where if an expansion slot or port exists on a piece of hardware, someone is going to invent something to utilize it in a way the original designer never intended nor could have imagined.
Technology is beautiful, upgrading old consoles with modern tech capabilities that we would never dreamed imaginable at the time.
Still wanna me something for N64 bottom port.
Sega 32x to make my coffee
"...or maybe you just want to run everything on a raspberry pi, and make sure that everyone on the internet knows that you'd rather run everything on raspberry pi." This got me good, never change my friend : )
Well I have a raspberry pi. I'd love to run Saturn games on there but it's not powerful enough yet. Maybe by the raspberry pi 6 it will be powerful enough.
In the russian forums, when a piece of retro hardware like Genesis or SNES or PSX is discussed, there's always a ton of folks with comments like "lol $$$$, me gonna buy a Raspberry pi instead"
You mean that Saturn games are running in full speed on a Raspbery pi 4 (4gb model)? I bought one and never used it....
A diss to the etaprime
My understanding is that the Sega Saturn has never been fully emulates.
Satiator for the Saturn. Master...bator for the Master System.
This now has to happen.
@@WarcleanePro Yep. That's the rule. No use denying it. Wonder what kind of "made up" verb could be used for someone in the act of using it?
Generalizer for Genesis. Dreamer for Dreamcast.
The Master system "Master Race" steering wheel now available!!!
Thank you for bringing Japanese Craig Stadler into our lives.
The Japanese text says it is indeed called the "Say-shi-ay-tor"
Probably, or maybe "Sey-shi-e-taa". It says セイシエター, so you could argue it's "Sē-shi-e-taa" (long e, not "say"), but if they just wanted a long e, they could have used the extension character ー instead of イ (I) there.
By the way, it's curious they wanted to make the last vowel long as well with that extension.
Sorry, I don't speak *wrong*
@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 lol, "satiator" in english is speaking Latin wrong. But as you like it.
@@SimonPiano42 That long final syllable may just be due to how different the Japanese R sounds are from the English R sounds. Like they're approximating the English R maybe?
@@Jesse__H good idea! sounds plausible
Hey Joe, just a quick clarification about the exFAT situation: Prof went back and forth on supporting it a couple times. At first he thought it was not going to be possible to support it, at least not while still being able to update the firmware due to a memory limitation, however he did find a workaround.
Later on the issue was the cost of licensing exFAT from Microsoft, but he was able to score a volume license relatively inexpensively through a third party, so in the final release it is supported! That Patreon post you quoted was from over a year ago before he found that licensing solution.
Love these Saturday Night Sack Drops!
Lol! Sunday morning here.
Time is relative buddy!
Sunday Afternoon Teatime.
Joe still does a great Sack drop.
What a great way to play backups of the seven copies of Street Fighter Alpha 3, Panzer Dragoon Saga, and Hyper Duel that I already own.
nice collection
That ending was a masterpiece. Solid 10/10
There is firmware update for the Action Replay cart by Professor Abrasive and it works great. Allows the Action Replay to be used and when you press the button combination will boot back to the Satiator game select screen. I have seen few games that will not go back but overall works great and very useful.
@@Shark97281 You don't actually need to copy memory to system to make it work. The way the Satiator works is that if you press the reset button on the console, it bypasses the Satiator menu. The Satiator will keep loading whatever game you selected until you power cycle the console. Thus if you have a patched Action Replay cart and press the reset button, it loads into the cart. The Action Replay cart will not work without patching due to the way the unpatched AR loads its code into memory. When you want to go back into the Satiator menu, just power cycle the Saturn.
I also had a flash error when I first tried. I was following the instructions exactly (insert the cart after loading the Satiator menu), but as it turns out, these cartridge slots and carts seem to be rather finicky, so I reseated the cart and it flashed properly. Other people have had the same problem with the same solution.
@@Shark97281 Oh, okay. I misunderstood what you said. Yeah, saving on the AR cart is nice because the system memory fills up so quickly. You can certainly do that, but you just don't have to in order to make the AR cheats work. That's what I meant.
"re you telling me that the satiator somehow made it possible to load games from my AR card?"
No. If you select a game using the Satiator menu, and then hit the reset button, the Satiator menu is bypassed. So if you don't have a cart inserted, it will just load the game you selected previously. If you do have a cart installed, it'll boot off the cart and you can use it to select whatever cheats you want before loading the game. The game always loads off the Satiator, as it would if you put a disc in. The AR cart doesn't have enough storage to hold an entire CD game.
@@Shark97281 Oh, gotcha. Yeah, as far as I'm aware, most games can only save and load to system memory, if not all of them.
@@Shark97281 I'm looking into it right now. Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter is one of the games that has had the most problems. Are you on the latest firmware and menu? Current versions are 157 and 64. I can load matches just fine without any glitches but between rounds it will occasionally kick me back to the Satiator menu.
I just tried something: I selected the game, then at the Start screen I hit reset on the console to boot into the AR. Then I started the game that way. I played through four rounds of fights before I lost and went back to the Start screen, played another round and it was still working. So give that a try.
Edit: Never mind! I just tried it again, and upon pressing start, it kicked me back to the CD player screen. I think we'll just need to wait for more fixes before this game works perfectly. Lots of people have reported varying degrees of the game working and then not working.
@@Shark97281 Hey, sorry I didn't respond sooner. The only translation I've currently loaded up is the Policenauts translation, which I downloaded as a patched version from somewhere (I honestly can't remember). But usually the mnethod is that you take the original game ISO and use a utility to patch the game, creating a new ISO. Then you'd just copy that to the Satiator.
Are you asking about how to patch and create a translated ISO? I've never done that but I'm sure I could figure it out if that's what you're asking. Otherwise you can always search for a pre-patched version, although you probably want to make sure it's a final version made from a legit ISO dump, which isn't always easy.
Like I said, once it's patched you just load the patched ISO onto the Satiator like any other game. It should work just like the unpatched game.
Love that shout out to how effin annoying those raspberry pi people are.
Having used a RetroPi, I find it decent but the button configuration was too frustrating. They put the menu hotkey on Start and Select... which you need to reset GB/GBA games or manually save in Zelda GB games.
And I agree on how annoying those people are. We get it, you pirate and have low standards. Now please shut up and let other people have their fun.
@@penismightier9278 yesh, the classic xbox emulators were a lot more friendlier when it comes to button configuration and they always set the menu button to the R3 buttons.
Yeah! Damn Pi lovers. They should buy a MiSTer. 😄
@@penismightier9278 I'd get the terraonion mode for Saturn or any ode device. The main reason is that plenty of Saturn games are close to or exceed 100 dollars each per game. Ode devices are pretty much unavoidable these days.
MiSTer owners are the new version of Raspberry Pi people
Here we go :), I have been interested in this device. I have a Saturn, only a hand full of games, and sadly some have disc rot. Although its not something I would buy right now, I am happy something like this exists.
Wow Jason, that is amazing.
@@goldenman8825 thanks Chris
The episode was informative but what really made it awesome is the joke about raspberry pie.
5:49 So it lets you play backups? That's actually a really good feature. As this video shows, there are some games that have issues. If the Satiator lets you play backups, then for those games with issues, just burn a CD. That, in a way, fills in the holes.
I bought one of these and so far I absolutely love it. Can still play CD games, but for convenience sake the thing is just incredible. Now I can play Super Tempo without spending hundreds of dollars!
I think it's a lifesaver for folks with large libraries of retail games. I never installed an HDD into my PS2 Slim because I have a few sweet black CDs to spin in it, so I boot all my... cough, backups, cough off an USB stick.
Please please tell me where to safely back up all my roms....what website?
Another game sack episode always satiates my needs.
I see what you did there...
Clever editing at its finest. And jesus that caught me off guard. A miles morales mod for the turbografx nice.
Was this made from guy who reverse engineered saturn after 20 years from vcd port ?
Yes, he was on the news back then. Prof. Abrasive.
this needs more attention, that dude is a hero
@Por Qué? Really? Have you seen what Saturn games are going for now. Just being able to play the English versions of Dragon Force, Burning Rangers, and Panzer Dragoon Saga on actual hardware make this worth it.
@Por Qué? That requires modifying the system. It's not the Dreamcast. The Saturn has copy protection.
Won't buy until it fully supports the action replay
That Craig Stadler import shot was about the surprise of my day.
The Satiator ... I think my ex had one of these in her bedside table.
I guess it did a better job than you haaaaaaaaaaaaa ;)
It's hard to compete, he doesn't even have a battery slot.
That would be why she’s your ex. She found a better man
Yeah she speaks a lot about it. 😂
Satiator does what Jessedon't
Joe, I appreciate your honesty and knowledge about Saturn stuff like this.
The great thing about the satiator is that the disc drive still works. If only it was more budget friendly like the Fenrir.
Would you say it's worth getting if affordability isn't an issue? I've got a Fenrir for one of my Saturn consoles, and it's good, but I have been having some problems, primarily because of issues with seating the ribbon and having to unscrew and remove the cover each time I need to fix or amend the game list.
Thank you so much for this review. I've been trying to decide if I should get one of these or not. Your input is much appreciated and valued.
If you're willing to spend the money on it, and you're on the fence, let me just say that you should probably buy it.
The thing is, some of the downsides that Joe mentions are just due to ignorance (no offense to Joe, I had to figure them out myself). The AR cart flash failure, for instance, is a common occurrence due to the cartridge slot and cartridge. All he needed to do was re-seat the cart and it would have worked.
Likewise, once patched, you can use the AR cart as you normally would, by simply selecting a game off the Satiator menu, then pressing the reset button on the console itself. This bypasses the Satiator menu, allowing you to boot into the AR cart. The Satiator will load whatever game you selected prior to hitting reset.
And regarding another thing that Joe mentioned, there IS a way to get back to the Satiator menu. You simply press A+B+C+Start. Normally this soft resets the game, but if you do it again once you're at the title screen, it will take you back to the Satiator menu. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work in every game. Some games will just keep soft resetting. I'm not sure if this is something that Abrasive can eventually solve or if it's how the game was programmed. It may be the latter.
One thing to keep in mind is that Professor Abrasive is constantly updating this and seeking feedback to create bug fixes. So if there is a specific bug you experience with a game, hop into his discord and tell him directly. He's usually pretty quick on fixing bugs.
If the price really bothers you and you don't mind modding your console, get a MODE. It's a great device that seems to work very well with Saturn and Terraonion makes some great products. They're also not a one-man job. I personally am a bit too attached to my Saturn to discard parts and solder things to the board when there's a plug-and-play option available. Also, I happen to think that this device is incredibly ingenious and I'm happy to support all of the amazing work that went into making it. It works well for most of the games I have played and I love that my Saturn is still completely stock.
It is such a unique device and it works well enough that I'm really happy I bought one. It'll only get better with time, but as is it's already great. By all means, buy what suits you best! I'm just trying to help provide another perspective.
I just got my Satiator. This video sold me on it.
I'm on the waiting list for their restock. The plug and play nature is a massive selling point for me.
Same here. I have no problem modding a cheap, common console like a PSX but the Saturn is a little more dear to me, and it still works perfectly so I'd rather not toss out the optical drive and solder a bunch of stuff to the board.
IMO it's worth every penny. Really slick little device. Abrasive is constantly updating it and fixing little bugs. I'd like to point out that Joe's failure to flash his AR cart is a common problem and is caused by the cartridge slot and the cart itself, not the Satiator. I got the same error and just had to re-seat the cart to get it to work. Once you patch it, you can use the AR by selecting a game from the Satiator menu and then hitting the reset button on the console. This bypasses the Satiator menu and boots you into the AR cart, and whatever game you selected will continue to load until you power cycle the Saturn.
Did you get your Satiator? I'm thinking of ordering one myself
@@clockworkengine Did you get one?
@@sillkthashocker I did! Quickly, took a few days to arrive after ordering. 2 days or so. Worked perfectly, totally satisfied with it.
@@clockworkengine and it plays everything perfectly no issues?
Late night game sack brilliant I can't sleep so some gaming entertainment is all good
same same.
4:22 Thank you for letting me know that Japanese dub Craig Stadler exists
I’m so glad this hardware project finally got finished. Great video!
the little sound effect when you pulled out the card was great.
damn i wanted to sleep (4 am here) but im curious about this!!
I got one of these. I was never going to remove my CD drive- I think a lot of folks are going to regret doing that. I love how easy going it is with game formats, most everything works. I’ve only experienced one glitch (Burning Rangers intro locks up after a few reruns- no biggie). Meanwhile, while I own no multi-disc games, I wonder if you can just use your original media or CDR’s to solve that rare problem.
Another late Saturday night, another Game Sack but video :)
I bought mine immediately. Although I’m hesitant to buy a 1 T SD card. It’s almost $200!
The Satiator saves a lot of hassle of taking the Saturn apart and I can still play physical games, if I so choose. I would highly recommend this product over any of the others. It’s worth the price for sure. Thanks Joe for covering this.
Just get some 256 gb ones
I did, but a 1 terabyte can hold all of the games. My 256 gb from Walmart is still in the packaging and I might return it for the 1 tb on Amazon. The 1 tb on EBay sells a lot of fakes.
@@shaggymcdaniel3216 256 is more than enough to put all the games worth playing and most of the bad ones too lol...if you need all the video dating discs then maybe u need more but u could get by with even 128 and have everything you'd have even the most remote interest in playing in your lifetime
@@aaronking9332 not if you count all of the Japanese games. There’s over 1,000 of those.
@@shaggymcdaniel3216 I'm counting those as well, including the English patched ones that are worth playing. If you skip the hundreds of video dating/soft porn titles 256 will fit em all. If you want everything including the most garbage bin titles than yeah u need more but everything that's even moderately worth playing...
A bonus episode is always a good thing
“OH MY GOD, WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE!?!?” -Mr. Plinkett
Another man of culture...
I supported this for a couple months but then I opted for fenrir and have been totally satiated in my needs.
That was I was thinking, satiator seems like one of those devices that would be great when they were released shortly after announcement. But came out way to late with a better and cheaper alternative for the vast majority of users.
Seeing Craig Stadler (PBUH) speak in my native tongue is such a surreal experience to have
Interesting product, definitely like the ease of use. You don't have to remove the optical drive like the Dreamcast SD card readers which is great.
Nice review; I have a Satiator myself and wrote a blog post on it a few weeks ago; I think you should be able to go from an unmodded AR cart to the Satiator menu by pressing "C" like you were going to go to the CD player, as it looks like the Satiator hijacks the CD player.
How can i find your blog?
Also, anyway to get help loading my "rom backups" once i decide to purchase ?
I ALWAYS WANTED A THING CALLED TUNA SASHIMI!!
Close your eyeeeeeeeeees
Close your heaaaaaaaaaad
3...
2...
1!!!
I didn’t think to check the FMV games, but the only game I had a problem with was In The Hunt. Turns out, the problem was with my “backup”, which has been confirmed to have been a problem with the actual game. To properly boot this US version, you have to unplug the controller as soon as you launch it from the Satiator menu. After the intro scene plays, you’ll get to the title screen, and you can play the game. The JP version does not exhibit this problem, btw.
Yes, another GameSack episode!!!!
I saw the Satiator is for sale. I tell myself "I'll buy one tonight". I take a nap. This video launches while I'm asleep. The Satiator is out of stock. Literally "snooze you lose"
I like game sack because you are a profesional and perfectionist, it shows the amount of work and dedication to your videos, and you never stop improving the quality, specialy the sound (following since you started).
But the thing I enjoy the most is your sense of humor. It goes beyond video games. Thank you.
Just for clarification at 7:44 - Many people use the AR as an 4mb because the official hardware is sometimes hard to get a hold of. So there you go if you need an 4mb cart!
If you are interested, the Japanese katakana on the front of the box says Seishietah so it indeed should be pronounced as in satiate~~
goly crap suikoden 1 on saturn?! that one is rarely covered only the plastation version. I love you for that Joe.
The Craig Stadler golf game works. I'm sold
One of the most recurrent thoughts I have while watching GameSack episodes that features consoles I didn't have the chance to own is "hey, that' seems like a pretty cool game that I'd like to play over many modern ones that I end up playing because of easier accesibility". Even if no new videogame came out ever again, I have a ton of older ones in my backlog. I just wish Sega released some kind of mini-saturn & dreamcast.
Yep, minis of those consoles would be sick
The Sega Saturn was really at risk of being forgotten about considering how hard it was to emulator and play backups on the original console. For years there was little to no option for emulation and flash cards, the tech was just too awkward and most of the people who tried over the last 20+ years gave up. Only recently has there been great strides made in the scene and I'm so glad we are finally at the start perfecting plug and play solutions and reliable emulators for the system. We may even get streaming speedrunners interested in the system which will really give the Saturn a new lease of life.
Love Sega and love these vids!!
Wow! I have been following this project for awhile! Glad to see it come out after all these years!
The fact of being self aware of wondering when it will be funny is amazing
Damn it! I wanted to hear what "Think you can get it inside mine" sounded like in Japanese...I guess I'll use Google.
The TG16 version of Spider-Man: Miles Morales looks quite impressive. Need to get myself a copy ASAP.
Yeah, but it's too bad the TG16 has to downgrade the game to an 8-bitiesh Sega Master System style to run. At least he does it in real time, I give you that.
I believe that's the genesis/master system version. Unless the tg16 version is identical
@@shawnje3072 It's the Master System's.
By the way Joe! Does it double also as an MPEG card for the few games that support it?
@@CousinHubertRetrogaming Unfortunately it doesn't, and I doubt it ever will as it has no major processing chips on it (that I'm aware of). You'd probably need an FPGA on board to double as an MPEG card.
Loving the Sonic R music at the beginning! :)
It brought a smile to my face instantly
Excellent video, your channel is one of the only real gaming channels left. All the other big ones have fallen.
What was the name of the top-down shooter at the end? That looked amazing!
Batsugun
*Plays literally every Saturn game in existence including translations of games Americans never got to play.
*Plug and play. Buy it, put it in Saturn, play forever.
*250 dollars.
Not seeing the problem here guys.
Sounds like a huge win for me😊😊
every time you do one of these satrun videos it makes me remember how much i regret selling off my old saturn..... anyway great vid none the less ^^
A Sackful of Sega Saturn Satiator! Super!
Try blowing on the cartridge when the game freezes. That ALWAYS works...
Kenny omega said I could do it!
My car won't work, I just don't know where to blow into it to fix it...
Seeing Suikoden threw me off for a few seconds. I'd completely forgotten there was a Saturn port.
I have been neglecting my Saturn. It deserves this.
It does support exfat. Also supports action replay cart but you need to flash it with the patch on the official satiator wiki. When you have a patched at cart you can reset from game into satiator menu buy pressing start+a+b+c. Multi disc games are not currently supported.
Well, hot-swapping isn't supported but multi-Disc games like Panzer Dragoon Saga work fine. It's just games like D which kinda throw a wrench into things.
SAY SHE ATE HER
It seems really interesting, but like a lot of these, it has some problems that need to get ironed out. I like the packaging though.
Would’ve loved to see how Sonic Jam and Sonic R ran with this. Sonic games are typically very interesting to me with these videos.
Sonic Jam and R seem to work perfectly, if the compatibility list is anything to go by.
The "issues" have almost entirely been ironed out. Some of these things he has issues with are described on the wiki and discord.
Sonic R, Sonic Jam, Sonic Z-treme, Sonic 3D Blast all work awesome
Pretty much everything has already been solved. So I guess it means we can stop complaining about compatibility issues and start focusing on why it costs 260 dollars instead.
@@FamilyTeamGaming The man should be paid for his decade of work discovering how all this works (Saturn is infamously difficult to reverse-engineer) and I'm sure the small-run manufacturing costs aren't great on most retro-gamer hardware. Cheaper devices required less work to create and/or have been able to lower their prices as they understand how big a manufacturing run they can do (and didn't have to launch first runs in a pandemic)
A somewhat I'll informed review. There are many revisions of the Action Replay and support is gradually being added for flashing all the different models. Mine was initially not supported but within a week, a firmware update added support. exFAT has also been explained. Being a Microsoft licensed file system, support was not added initially due to cost. Later the developer found a cost effective way to sub-license it and so added support to all but the early models of the Satiator. All of this has been explained by Professor Abrasive.
I also pointed this out, along with some other things in a comment that now looks like it was deleted...
I love game sack it always makes me feel so warm and comfy. And the stop-motion, the _glorious_ stop-motion! Keep it up!
"And i guess Jaguar" in the credits made me smile. They only way to play Rayman
The best way to play Rayman now is Rayman Redemption for the PC. A free fanmade remake of the original game.
hoorah, new vid
A lot of the bug reports will be wrong because it's by game, but the cause is usually down to specific SD cards.
It’s a pretty awesome time for the Saturn this, the Mode and Fenrir all great devices
The price is insanely high
I mean, some individual games run higher than this, so I really don't get that complaint. Yeah, it's expensive. But it does what no other product can do. I guess it really depends on how much you like the Saturn and how much you value a plug-and-play solution. Personally, I like the fact that I didn't have to modify my Saturn since it's not nearly as common as something like the PSX.
@@rars0n Yep. With games like Super Tempo, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Hyper Duel, or even Shinrei Jusatsushi Taroumaru commanding several thousands in some instances these days, any ODE or flash cart for the Saturn starts to pay for itself quickly.
@@AceTrainerX3 Not to mention, you don't ever have to worry about discs scratching or rotting, your laser wearing out, or just maintaining a huge collection of media. For me, I'd much rather have a digital storage of all my games that I can instantly choose from even if I already have the games sitting on the shelf.
So really, you aren't just paying for the engineering that went into the device, but also all of the benefits it provides you, one of which is not having to seek out and pay for ridiculously priced games. Well worth it IMO.
Love emulation, but there's nothing like real hardware. Looks like some bugs to work out, but if Sega Saturn was my jam, I'd be on this one.
11:18 Is that Batsugun? Man, that game looks awesome!!! 😮😮😮
Admittedly, the Satiator is pretty expensive compared to other ODEs. However, it is the most ingenious ODE available. You are paying for all of the amazing work that went into making it.
My Saturn still works fine, so I like the fact that I didn't need to remove the optical drive or modify the console in any way. Dr Abrasive is updating this thing constantly and if you have any particular issues with it you can hop into his discord and talk to him directly. Or you may even be able to find a solution from the other members there.
I like how it favors function over form and the menu is super fast. Given the convenience of it, I think it's worth the price. If you're willing to mod your own Saturn and don't want to spend as much money, MODE is probably the way to go. But I do really appreciate the immediacy of a plug-and-play device like this. And also keeping my console intact and original.
Bit too pricey for a work in progress imo.
Hopefully it will get there in the end though.
More SACK!!
i’ve been waiting for years for this lol. remember in like 2014 when that video came out for it
What are you talking about? This wasn't in development back in 2014.
I can say with complete confidence if this were $60 I would absolutely purchase one.
You know, I was right there with you. But as I was looking for options like the MODE and modding my Saturn, it would probably cost more with labor and shipping and such (I'm definitely not tech savvy). Plus the Saturn stays in it's original form. I think I'll bite the bullet and finally order this thing...definitely took long enough!
You make the review of a product I have no intention of every buying interesting
Japanese Craig Sadler 😂😂
Sega just need to come out with a really good Saturn compilation or mini console. So sick of them focusing solely on Mega Drive with a sprinkling of Dreamcast.
Just release them on current gen consoles. Heck even the switch should be able to handle some saturn games emulated. Segata Sanshiro runs well on the nvidia sheild tv
@@thisisakodibox2635 yeah if they give me a way to show my support financially I will. Don't want to have to resort to the grey area of emulators etc. They have a captive audience who they're basically ignoring (much like Nintendo)
@@dcashley303 Sega never had the best management that's for sure. They are sitting on a goldmine of unused IP
Emulation is inaccurate, and will never be 100% so there doesn't need to be a mini. Just get the real hardware.
@@pb879 just because it's not 100‰ accurate doesn't mean it doesn't need to exist. Getting real hardware hooked up to modern displays is difficult for a lot of people. Plus the games cost alot. Plus I'd like to be able to support the growth of this sort of thing. I think it's valuable and important to look back and to allow the general buying public an opportunity to get a feel for older games. If it gets at least 90% there in terms of accuracy that's okay with me. It's all about enjoying the games.
Miles on turbographx looks badass. Who needs a ps5??
I’ve never owned a Saturn so I can’t say for sure if I’d want one. I’ll probably stick to emulation on my PC for now. With every passing year, emulation gets better and better, but it still can’t replace the nostalgia of hardware and that sweet smell of ozone from the console and CRT TV screen buzzing on. Also, the end card bits are always funny. Keep it up Joe!
It gets better and better but it will always be inaccurate and never like the real machine. Plus you don't need to play the Saturn on a CRT with all the many upscaler options.
Will this allow a PAL Saturn to play in 60hz NTSC?
Unfortunately not, that's set in hardware, so you'll need to install a switch of some sort. Depending on the hardware revision this can be an easy mod where you can just solder in a switch to some unpopulated pads in the battery compartment, but other revisions require more aggressive changes (cutting tracks or lifting chip legs).
If getting the games was easier, I would totally pay the overblown price for one of these.
If only there was a org website that archived things..
Okay, that comment at the end was great. It is kinda funny the comments from people talking about there pi every chance they get.
I love at the beginning when you throw yourself totally at the mercy of how My Life in Gaming pronounce 'Satiator' 😅
The Sega Saturn is a underrated system, I never had one I never knew it existed until around 2008 they only Sega system I knew existed was the Genesis I grew up playing Nintendo and PlayStation
first 40 seconds dedicated to those who have a problem with proper pronunciation.
Craig Stadler's Japanese is flawless. Is there anything that man can't do?
Here in Brazil watching Game Sack is the First thing Sunday morning
The box is kinda... cute. Looks like japanese candy.
For 200 dollars I expect perfection and this is far from it
260$ plus tax plus shipping plus a good SD card, 300$!!!! Way to much money!
Exactly, for what they charge it better damn well be compatible with the entire US library and a good chunk of the Japanese Library.
I think there's still some timing issues with a few games when it comes to streaming data off "the disc," but Abrasive is constantly updating it. If you have a problem with a specific game, you can let him know about it on his discord and he will usually have a fix for it very quickly.
It's worth pointing out that the error Joe got when attempting to flash his AR cart is common and is caused by the cartridge slot and cartridge, NOT the Satiator. All he had to do was re-seat the cart and try again. Once flashed, the AR works as it normally would. To use it, you just select the game you want to play from the Satiator menu, and then hit the reset button on the console. This bypasses the Satiator menu, and with the flashed AR cart installed, loads that instead.
Is it absolute perfection? No, not really. But it works perfectly with most games. Is it expensive? Sure, but it's still a lot cheaper than buying all of the games individually. And it installs in seconds, requiring zero modification of the console. The main reason I bought one is because my Saturn still works perfectly and I didn't want to remove the optical drive and solder stuff inside it when this option was available. I still have plenty of games on disc, and while I doubt I'd play them that way very often, at least I have the option to do so.
If you don't want to spend that much and you don't mind modding the console, just get a MODE instead. Those seem to work great on Saturn as well. The Satiator is a really clever method of implementing an ODE and I wanted to support all of the work that Abrasive put into making it a real product.
Considering how long people have waited for a plug and play way to play Saturn games on the original system from an SD card, the fact that it was invented and it now exists for the first time is more of what you are paying for, because it sure didn't exist beforehand. Of course you could choose to save some money if you were willing to take your Saturn apart with careful soldering and chance of bricking your console. The fact that this is released to the public also might result in someone reverse engineering and cheaper copy cats emerging.
You cant argue with that simple install, thats genius.
Game sack does native ad episodes. Nice.