Our trimaran renovation completed!
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- We completed an extensive renovation of the very first Neel trimaran ever built. For nearly 18 months we worked like tirelessly to refresh, modify, in some places rebuild Poly - our floating home, to make it like new or even better. Thank you for sticking around and worrying about us when we fell silent. We are back on water and welcome back. Ania & Bartek
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We are a Polish family (Ania, Bartek, Kuba and Julian) sailing around the world with our floating home trimaran.
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Contents of the video:
00:00 Long story short
02:00 Back on water
03:30 Our trimaran looks like a sailboat
05:20 Why it took so long?
10:00 Refit summary
20:00 Refit projects
28:00 New boat tour on the way
30:00 in love with multihulls
38:00 More sailing stuff on the way
We completed an extensive renovation of the very first Neel trimaran ever built. For nearly 18 months we worked like tirelessly to refresh, modify, in some places rebuild Poly - our floating home, to make it like new or even better. It's been an extremely intense period for us followed immediately by 6000 mile fast sail from Poland to the Caribbean with the Winter on our heels. Needless to say we were so busy that we suspended posting videos on this channel during some of that period. We are now back floating aboard our home, recharging our batteries, and returning to our normal life. We will share all that with you beginning with this episode. Thank you for sticking around and worrying about us when we fell silent. We are back and welcome back. Enjoy!
Ania & Bartek
s/y Poly
Get more info about Neel or other multihulls:
bartek@lovingyachts.com
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Welcome back, looking forward to see the results🎉
Looking good guys ! We're excited to see your vlog so keep up the great work. :)
I have the utmost respect for any human being willing to podcast their lives in their second or third mother language!!!!! Merci de nous avoir amener sur votre chemin!!
Merci. En effet, ce n'est pas si facile, mais toujours amusant. Avec plaisir.
@@sailoceans facile ou pas… merci pour votre effort! English Canadian loving your channel
So glad you're finally back in English.
Thanks for sticking around :). Good to be back.
Very nice to see you back ,can't wait to see more of you on the tube.
Thank you!
Show us already, we can wait to see the boat. Happy to see you are back.
Thank you. It's coming :). Cheers. Bartek
Glad to have you back. Kelowna BC Canada.
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
Thanks for the update. Missed you guys.
Thank you. Missed you too :). Cheers. Bartek
Great to see You again!
You too!
great boat great family adventures. Great to see you back out there just doing it
Thanks 👍
The shape of this NEEL Trimaran is appealing to me... Could be like a STARTREK ship, haha
welcome back
Thank you 🩵
Glad to have you back.. Miss you guys..
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
Well done! Don’t rush and take your time creating the videos.:)
Thank you! Will do!
Yay!!! I understand what you're saying again!
:D
Welcome Back!
Welcome back!
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤NICE VLOG❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
Excellent vidio
Your Neel looks beautiful I'm impressed. Congratulations! So much sweat and tears, I thought you would never compete all of the work. Also, I think you made the best choices regarding advanced electric motor systems. The Volvo is a great engine. Parts and service are available in many locations around the world.
We agree. Thank you so much!!
HalleluYAH So glad you're still safely back on the oceans. May YAH Most High bless you all and Poly and keep you safe and sound wherever you travel.
Yes! Thank you!
❤🧙♂️🤞🏼☀️🌻🇬🇧 glad to see you back as youve boosted your solar and probably your battery tech... I guess you've got your base level for future plans..
And yes things were/are looking crazy at home .
You certainly had to do a lot more hull fixes than you first bargained on ...
but now your back on the water in the sun you can see things more clearly .. 😉💡
Plus the technology is changing fast. ...and possibly getting cheaper as well as better.
Great to see you back in English :) I did live in Poland for several years (and even learned to sail on the PŻZ sternik morskie scheme), but it's a lot easier in ENG. Do please keep publishing!
That's awesome! Will do :)
Great to see you up and running again
Thanks for sticking around :). Good to be back.
Great to see you back, in English. Only way to sink on the hard is financially. Considering the time it takes others to "refit" mono-hulls, you did great with 3, still in relationship, & you know the boat better. Congratulations on the Poland channel.
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
Missed you guys! Thanks for the update and we hope you continue publishing a few English version (or the Polish versions with sub-titles and voice-overs?). Look forward to deep-dive technical pro-cons of the decisions you made (Yanmar vs old Volvo) and Engine room tour. Looks like a new windlass set-up...? Galley decisions...? You have lots of content going forward!
Thank you! Will do!
Just found this channel, really enjoying it.
Welcome aboard!
Good to have you back. I'm curious to dive deeper in your boat work. Congratulations for what you did.
Thank you. Will do. Cheers. Bartek
Great to see you guys! Yes, please try to bore us with technical! I dare you! We're looking forward to it.
Challenge accepted :D
We got a look in person at Poly in the Bahamas - she’s amazing looking on the outside, can’t wait to see what you’ve done on the inside!
You should have knocked on the door :). Thank you. Cheers. B
Bravo
Congratulations on your great job !
Enjoy the fruit of your labor
Sail on 😅
Thank you! Will do!
Welcome back! Look forward to your Vlogs going forward.
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
Nice. I've been checking in periodically and started to wonder if you were still around. Now I find myself "catching" you just days after your return to the wonderful world of UA-cam! Perseverance always pays off, my mother used to say. Welcome back. And please continue your English channel (no, not THAT channel, your channel...), I love trimarans, used to own a 45ft tri back in the late 70s. I find your comments on the Neel very interesting, and am fascinated by the differences in the design philosophies of your tri and La Vagabonde's new Rapido.
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
Great video! Like the honesty. Laughed fine line between crazy and stupid. Great to see you all again.
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
We can't wait to see and follow your next movies. We started in the meantime on a monohull Beneteau 57 and that on my age of 63 years young. It feels very sure and stable as a battleship. We met us maybe some were on the ocean. See you 👍👍👍
Great. If you drift down to the Caribbean definitely let us know. Cheers, Bartek
You handled the whole situation admirably - osmosis, repowering, new rigging and sails, fix old leaks, yes 14 months due to delays, the introductory explanation in the video was excellent, seems like a good fit representing Neel, and wise to collect consulting fees for your services. Poland's policy of limiting refit time to 14 months seems economically irrational as you might have spent more money on the refit thereby benefiting Poland. Good video - thanks.
Thank you so much. The time limit is not a Polish policy. It's EU-wide directive that foreign flagged boats can only stay in Europe for maximum 18 months.
Cheers,
Bartek
@@sailoceans Thanks.
Welcome back.
Thank you 🩵
Welcome back! You all were missed! Please keep the English channel going. I am not sure I can learn Polish at my age so I can live vicariously through you guys, but will give it a try if needed. LOL!!! 😂
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
I foget his name but an Englishman taught himsel Sanskrit. He learnt that new language so he could translate it into English. He was age 82 at the time.
A friend's mother learned to fly at age 83. She then boaught a multiengine aircraft for her personal use.
Myself, age 65, endeavour to learn Navajo. I also continue to expand my ability in the Hawaiian language for I was born in Hawaii.
I am English speaking American of Swedish/Russian ancestry.
@@secretsquirrel6308 my dad learned Spanish at 70. Love it.
So good to see you again its been ages, I’ve watched your channel for years, hope the kids are ok xx
Thank you. We're all good. Thanks for sticking around for so long. Cheers. Bartek
Welcome back ❤🎉
Welcome back! We're excited to see all the upgrades.
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
A very welcome surprise to see you guys back. Looking forward to all the technicalities in coming episodes.
Thank you. It's coming. Cheers. Bartek
Cannot wait to see your electrical system. A boat tour would be nice. Was it difficult to get the boys back on the water?
One is coming soon. Right now we are sailing back from the Bahamas to the Caribbean and it's a bit hellish going against the 20 knot wind and 1,5 knot current, hence I don't think Ania is going to finish editing the boat tour for this weekend. The boys came back happily to the boat. No problems. Getting more and more involved by the day. It's awesome to see them grow like this. Cheers,
Bartek
Rapido and Dragonfly Tris are too tight for full time living unless you're a single or at most a couple. They are more of a weekend and holiday expedition boat. The way the Neel is laid out, the use of the ama as living space gives you the room to live full time. They're all beautiful but serve different purposes. Glad you guys are back. I saw your polish channel, good luck to you on that.
... But if it folds you can fold it and ship it on a container ship and skip major weather and risky passages!?? I wonder what the shipping cost is compared to ware/tare/time/turmoil?
I agree. The to me Neel is perfect blend of performance and comfort. Rapido cannot be folded and shipping it would be outrageously expensive due to it's footprint. In any case, living aboard as a family is about being on anchor in pretty places about 95% of the time, so the comfort is a must. The performance is nice, but Neel has enough performance to position to weather systems and outrun some. That to me is enough to keep my family safe. In the 70k miles on Poly we have not placed ourselves in a macro weather situation that would not serve us well.
Cheers mates,
Bartek
Just came across your channel. Interested to see how a young family funds such an upgrade.
Savings & running income, but it's a good question for a Q&A. Thanks. Cheers. B
Can't wait to see the tour!
Guys I'm so pleased that you are back thank you for taking the time to make this vlog x
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
Good for you guys to come back but don’t stop with polish version please
We won't 👌🩵
Thanx for the great update! Good to see your smiling faces back on the Tube!
So good to see you back. I was only thinking about you last week. Boat looks great & you both an inspiration to yachties living the dream
Thanks so much!
Czyli... panna poznała pana i teraz uważa się za "matron sea seeker";) żartuję, wiem, że się kochacie i kupiliście tą łódkę wspólnie 50/50:) i ją utrzymujecie fifty/fifty.:):):)
It was about time to see you back on YT! Looking forward to your new propulsion system .
Thank you. Cheers. Bartek
I can't wait to see your new home on the water. Is she still named Poly? We are ready to resume your adventures, lets go.
Welcome! 🥰Yes, Poly is Poly 🩵
They have been out in the Caribbean for 6months just been working on the boat ...sailing and publishing in Polish..
Its good to catch up....
Marvelous, so great to see Poly in the Bahama's, we love you guys and can't wait for future episodes. She looks awesome, so much work and planning, you both should be so proud of this accomplishment.
Wow a big apology. Me personally I'm glad your OK. I thought something bad happened.
So now I'm looking forward to the boat tour & your adventures.
Thank you. No, nothing bad, just the amount of work nearly crushed us :D. Cheers. Bartek
Great to see you back. I’d love to see as many refit videos as possible, you always produce great episodes.
Thanks! Will keep them coming!
Nice video and dzień dobry! Congrats to your project and the ambassadorship 👏. Wish you fair trades 👍, cheers from Holland/Gemany - Erlano - HR42e
Thank you! Cheers!
Old sailers never die, they come back.
GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN ! KEEPING YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR SOMETIMES IS EVERYTHING !
Amazing transformation. The double hull. Could you talk about that more? Could you also share how you were able to afford boat life in the beginning and also afford this massive refit?
You mean the crash zones?
@@sailoceans At 10 minutes into the video where it shows two hulls.
Robert, this boat was prototype for Neel. Pertinent to your question, this vessel was also used for testing different hull shapes. Instead of tearing off old bottom, new design was applied over old bottom. Hence, two bottoms as you had observed.
@@secretsquirrel6308 How did you fix it? Yes, I heard you say that it was a prototype for Neel and that they were experimenting with different shapes.
@@secretsquirrel6308 Did you end up keeping both bottoms or did you remove the false bottom to save weight and such?
Congrats on a successive renovation and being back on the water!
Thank you!
Great to see you back and Poly looks beautiful.
Zastanawiam się od jakiegoś czasu co Ci dolega i cieszę się, że wróciłaś, a powodem nie jest jakaś choroba czy inna tragedia. Celowo przeniosłem to z chorwackiego na polskie tłumaczenie google, aby pokazać Ci, jak bardzo jesteś dla mnie drogi i miły. Pozdrowienia z Chorwacji.
(I've been wondering for some time what's wrong with you and I'm glad you're back and the reason isn't some illness or some other tragedy. I deliberately put this from Croatian to Polish google translation, to show you how dear and nice you are to me. Greetings from Croatia.)🥰😄👍
Now you know. Thank you for looking out for us. Cheers.
Im seeing a few channels now with neel boats being horribly built. Definitely never a buying option. You made a good job of that though she looks stunning now. 👌🏻
Thanks 👍
Welcome back guys! Really missed your videos. Cant wait for the tour of the new digs on the boat.
This video came out 5 days ago and I never got notification. I think if you dont watch a channel you are subscribed to for a few months it quits sending you notifications. I am going to unsub and resub to see if that fixes the issue. You might want to let others know about the issue. Make a few UA-cam Shorts to let everyone know you are back.
Now for the QUESTIONS ------ Has the new reverse bow design effected the performance of your boat? Does refitting a boat give you PTSD? Did the 18 months off the water effect how your body feels while sailing now? Where is the best place to winter in the Carrib?
We were just saying we hadn’t heard from you guys in ages… awesome you’re back posting👌
Good to have you back too :)
Glad to see you back! All the modifications and upgrades on your yacht are great. Can't wait to see videos on them. I like the inverted bow mod, definite thumbs up on that. You have a very beautiful boat, no wonder Neel have you as ambassadors. The company must really be impressed with the refit. Looking forward to future episodes.
Thanks 👍
Great to see you back on english YT, guys. Looking forward to your next offering.
Thanks! 😃
Wszystkiego dobrego 🖐️
🥰 wzajemnie
PLEASE PLEASE add a macerator to the head of that boat! I spend a lot of time in the Bahamas and wouldn’t want to share an anchorage with what’s coming out of that hole in the bottom. Better yet, install a holding tank.
Please watch the Boat Tour part 2 coming out next Monday before you make a judgment ;). Cheers mate. B
Great to see all the progress, looking forward to the details.
Thanks 👍
Never doubted for even a minute that you guys would be back.
Glad to see you return and to see the ship looking better than ever!
As far as feedback? The technical and practical aspects are deeply fascinating, so please go into as much detail as you want with that. I personally am most interested in that, as well as the heavy weather sailing you showed previews of, since it isn't always ideal conditions no matter how good you think your weather window planning is. Nature can surprise you with horrendous conditions and I find it terrifyingly interesting to see what different levels of rough seas and winds are like and how they are navigated safely but also the toll they take on a crew both physically and mentally.
Anyways, congratulations on surviving the refit and everything else! Cheers! 🍺
Hi,
There will be a few episodes I recorded specifically on that on the way from Poland to the Canaries. It was indeed demanding in many different ways.
Thanks for sticking around so long :). Cheers,
Bartek
@@sailoceans Glad to hear it and thank YOU for sharing your life with us and continuing to make videos in English!
if you do it, i would like to hear why you didn't go electric or hybrid. nice to see you back. and then you answered my question :-))
Glad we did :) Good to have you back. Cheers. B
Ben ritornati ❤
Grazie :)
So interesting your comments on electric. I’ve done all the maths and looked at all the pro’s and con’s and literally this week (prior watching this) that electric isn’t worth the effort and to stick with diesel which is actually super efficient. More solar panels and wind and hydro generation for day use for house appliances but motoring….. those diesels are the best by a long shot. The size of a diesel genset as back up is the same as the motor. So full electric is bonkers and then hybrid is slayed by the insurance risks.
Missed you guys...
What have you named this lovely boat ?
The name remains the same: "Poly". Cheers mate. B
⛵
Hey from the deepest countryside you might know.
And also really sad to hear about that maintenance that surprised you.
Is there any way to go on the sail with you?
Where is the countryside?
No worries. We managed somehow :).
Yes. We do have few dates over the next few months. If you're Polish there's a page on the sailoceans.pl to find out about the details. We're still working on the English version. In any case contact as via email please.
Cheers,
Bartek
DETAILS ARE IMPORTANT...
Wow. Chyba wolę te wasze filmy po angielsku. Zajefajny odcinek
Dziekujemy 🫣🩵
Missed you folks. All that you've done and what you are planning is amazing, BUT (had to put that in capital letters only to emphasize), you need to stay in control of your lives and not fall into the same pitfalls as other UA-camrs, where trying to get a video out every week becomes a millstone around your necks and heads...at sea that might be bad news. If you strive for a video per month then most of us out here will see it as a celebration of your lives onboard and that is what these videos really need to get back to. Some other sites have pointed to stress and unhappiness along with the idea of it all becoming too much for them. Most of us out here want to live vicariously through what you become aware of while sailing NOT the frequency of your videos. So please, please, please take care of yourselves first and foremost, we can wait for the updates as we have after you sailed to Poland to put POLY up on the hard, as they say, to make needed repairs and your experiences with the nasty weather and winter that you had even then. It's great to have you all back and I personally am looking forward to the changes you made with your rebuild, but most importantly, seeing you all with many more smiles than those strained ones I noticed when it looked like everything was coming at you folks all at once. It takes a very brave bunch of people and most of all a strong family bond to come back after the amount of uphill runs you all had to do. Anyone who thinks it was you folks taking a vacation aren't worth the worry of whether or not they still wish the best for you all, and you can afford to let those kinds of fools drop like anchors without chains or ropes. Far too many armchair critics in this world, you folks only worry need to be your family and your floating home, take a lesson from POLY, she ain't no racer like you said but she sails along nicely (better than before I'm hoping) and she gets you to where you want. In my way of thinking, a home on the water that can do that gently and safely is a home worth of love and respect.💖💖💖💖💖❤🩹
Very well said. Agreed on all points. Thank you for caring. To put you at ease, being overtaxed is exactly what made us suspend the English channel for a while. We also have been known to miss an episode here and there. We try to constantly gauge and feel into whether what we are doing, creating is enjoyable or is it work that must be done. If we fell we're losing the fun out of it we put breaks on no stress. We know very well that we cannot radiate with anything good if we don't take care of it inside.
Thank you though for care and kind comment. Cheers,
Bartek
Sad to hear the english channel isnt going well, but good to hear that the polish channel does.
Hope you still will be doing english videos, since I dont understand polish.
Since its the only sailing channel having a neel 45, i find your channel pretty interesting. Well there are a few other sailing channels with neel 43/47 out now, but you were the first, and yeah, i like your videos more.
Minor advice from me: Try not to talk at the same time. - maybe its just me but its a little irritating.
And congratz to your refit!
Thank you. Sorry, we're not very good at not talking together :D. We'll try to be better, but can't honestly promise on the results. BTW: Our Neel is not a 45. It's the only 50 ever made. It's the mother to Neel 45 and frankly all others, but the 45 was the only one that has the same layout save for the island in the galley as 45 is entire 9 feet narrower and that had to squeeze somewhere. Don't worry. We can already see that this episode is doing surprisingly well, so I guess we have a good motivation to keep the both channels going at the same time, thanks to guys like you.
Cheers,
Bartek
I was interested in a Neel and to make it electric, particularly like the 45 as it is lighter but worried about NEEL build quality, seen quite a few negtive reviews on Neel on you tube. and poor customer service with Neel.
We are aware of how the industry works and unfortunately the customer service in the majority of the shipyards leaves a lot to be desired. NEEL particularly had a rough start or even longer, but my impression is that they did some significant homework and the quality issues are no longer such a problem. That does not mean there aren't any. We run a consulting arm at lovingyachts.com that effectively guides and protects the buyer throughout the process, among other things we perform inspections to make sure that what is delivered does not have any serious problems.
Where are all the kids? They are the best part…lol
After we put them in charge of cleaning the lot under the boat in the shipyard, they said they'll come back when everything is done :D. Cheers, B
Why can’t I subscribe??
It says there is an error when I try to subscribe?
We don't know.... Please maybe refresh and then try again. Let us know. Regards.
Dzienkuje za informacie, jaki jest adres do polskiego kanalu? 🤓
ua-cam.com/users/jachtemprzezswiat
3months to 18 months. That means budget whent up? Did you win the lottery to get the boat fixed and upgraded to get back into the water? 😵💫 How much did the refit cost in the end?
I've never heard about a refit that ended on budget. We also don't compromises. If something needs attention it gets it. We also don't do spreadsheets, because we know we'll do whatever is needed to get everything done right. It's our family home and our life. So, no we don't have a cost beyond a very rough guesstimate. We did not win the lottery. Cheers, Bartek
Please continue to provide your adventures in English.
I think i must learn polish.... Or i need subtitles
Is it impossible to subscribe in ENGLISH?
It shouldn't be. Please send as a PM so that we can investigate. Cheers, Bartek
RE: electric propulsion
Smart man looks at big picture and makes wise decision.
I understand this seems heretical, that many people are gaga over the next best thing. But the tech is not there yet. Such a system requires, relies upon, massive energy storage. Yet to those paying attention, the required storage system is severely limited, unreliable, incurs vastly higher risk, high dollar cost, and in most scenarios is reliant upon traditional engines.
No apology needed.
Hahahaha, you're right. In the end we sail so much that it would take 50 years to break even on this project assuming all the components would work that long :D
Some not so good posts on neel workmanship appearing ???
I would not judge Neel based on our boat. It was built as a concept boat and we bought it at heavy discount knowing full well we're buying it with all its problems. Neel workmanship has its problems regardless, but our feeling judging from the few latest boats we've been on is that they did their homework and learnt from the mistakes of the first decade. That is not to say their flawless, but then unfortunately that's the norm of the industry it seems. Cheers,
B
am i wrong but why are you ambassadores for a brand that caused you so much worries and was built like crap.
Because, bought our boat at heavy discount knowing fully well that we're getting into a concept boat. We saw it as an opportunity and a platform to create something ideal for our life aboard. And we made it such. We still don't see anything that comes remotely close to how Poly is compatible with us.
Neel had its fair share of growing pains when they first started and long after, but looking at the recent hulls and being aboard them makes us think that they did their homework at least to a large extent comparing to where they started. We still think that this concept is one of the best platforms for comfortable and fast family cruising and it's worth even dealing for some nuisance here and there that seems to be the industry standard any way.
Cheers mate,
Bartek
Отлично! теперь рефит жены делай)))
She does not need one :P
Welcome back!