The "Reds" referred to the communist. In the Fallout world, the "Reds" were the Chinese communist who America were fighting during the Resource War. The Reds also referred to the Russia, or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic as they were known at that time. The show never said it but the crashed satellite the doctor died next to in episode 2 said CCCP on it. CCCP is Russian for USSR or the Soviet Union. Fun Fact: In episode 1 the dads referred Cooper as a Pinko. Pinko means communist sympathizer.
@@rusenakman And suddenly take us to Anchorage pre bombs, during the resource wars? Unless they bring in specific characters similar to that of FO4 or lore discussions found in FONV:OWB, I can't see it possible to happen. Also, knowing how the show ends, I have a feeling they're dragging us in a completely different direction than that.
"A Man And His Dog" is a reference to "A Boy And His Dog", a 1975 film based in the far off future of 2024 where the world has been ravaged by nuclear war. In it, a boy travels the wasteland with his telepathic dog companion
@@toomanyaccounts The novella was written by Harlan Ellison, author of other great works such as "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream", and published in 1969. But this easter egg is referencing the movie, being that Cooper Howard is an actor and the poster is that of a movie he starred in. The creators of Fallout were likely aware of Ellison's work, but many of their inspirations, such as developer Scott Bennie naming the fan-favorite companion dog "Dogmeat", came from the movie
@@stephenestep2270 it was not the only inspiration. Look up "A Canticle For Liebowitz" a religious order that collects tech and knowledge, sound familiar?
So, the Fallout universe puts a big focus on political propaganda, specifically against "communism", hence the reference to "the Reds". It's not really meant to be the show taking a sort of political stance, but to reflect the culture that the characters in the universe lived in before the Great War. The tension between "The Reds" is what led to the Great War in the first place.
That awkward moment when you look at today and realize all of that anti-commie propaganda was justified and warranted. They played the super long game.
@@Tijuanabill Not really implying it's anything new, I put it in quotes as it more represents the more radicalized and propagated idea of communism that was spread around in America during the 1950s and 1960s.
@@sunnydraws2513 You mean the completely accurate warnings about where it will lead, that obviously came completely and totally true? It failed in every country. There are zero instances where it worked. It's an awful system, that requires you fence the people in, to keep them from running away from it. Literally hundreds of millions of human beings died from Communism.
Yes, "reds" refers to communists. Read up on The Red Scare and McCarthyism if you want to know more about what was going on in America at the time the bombs drop in the Fallout universe. It was also illegal to even discuss labor unions.
Sounds to me McCarthyism is still present to this very day in the US. Kinda telling just how far to the right of (actual) center the country has become. Politically speaking, in an economical context, progressives is as "far left" you can come in the US today. And they're still only (actual) center leaning right. Actual far left, like UAW/MF, are long gone, for several decades. Capitalism has gone way too far, all the way into fascism with a totalitarian flavors.
To be fair, Barb's reaction to Coop's affection at the vault film set is a bit more understandable when you remember that she's currently surrounded by coworkers and she probably wants to project an air of professionalism.
A bit more clarification on usage of the term "Red/Reds." In the Fallout universe, "Reds" does generally mean the Chinese. but was mostly used to refer to the USSR from the 50's up thru the Soviet dissolution in 1991. The Red scare in the US basically began when the USSR began testing atomic bombs in the late 40's and really took off when they began testing hydrogen bombs in the 50's. I remember having "Duck and cover" drills in elementary school in the 60's and early 70's.
The actor who plays Bartholomew (the voice of the robot) in this episode is one of the stars of a GREAT show that was recommended in the discord, "What we do in the shadows" its hilarious and you should definitely check that show out.
I've seen a handful of reactions now for Fallout, and most have made comments that they aren't sure what "Reds" are. It was a super common term for a while where the US would call communists Reds, and everyone was worried about "The Red Scare/Peril, Menace", because a lot of communist flags and stars were red and the communist books were usually bound in red.
Kiss mentioned something I find interesting. She wonders if the Flame Mother is a clone. I believe that’s true. I think there is another person we’ve seen who is much younger, but has the same nose, eye configuration and complexion. I think she is a clone, and a younger self is out there. I mean Moldaver is in the Hollywood Forever crypts. She has access to many bodies, and is a scientist per this episode’s flashback. Something was stolen from her and she wants it back.
The poster when cooper walks down the stairs, all the dogs in fallout as well as the show opening with “The End”, are all nods to the book a boy and his dog at the end of the world, a big inspiration for the creation of the original fallout game.
This is basically how every single military contractor or supplier works in the USA. They have a fiduciary responsibility to make sure people stay in wars in the Middle East.
"Reds" : Communist; a Western and especially American usage until the end of the Cold War was to refer to communists as "reds" and communism as the "red peril"; derived from frequent use of red as the dominant color in flags of communist countries; capitalization varies, leaning lower-case That's post World War II and Cold War era history, not just Fallout lore.
Moldaver probably got her hands on a cryostasis device or stole the plans or even helped develop the technology. It all seems to be that she wasn't a ghoul and cloning was out of her moral code.. I strongly suggest the cryostasis, more appropriate for the lore and the feel of fallout..
If you're a film student, this is a great episode to analyse after watching the next one. You'll see all the little clues that mean something entirely different once you know what's really going on. It's a masterclass at misdirecting the viewer and playing on their expectations to 'trap' them into a false assumption.
Panama and Buena vista here. It’s not too bad. Cheap housing and golf. ⛳️ Air quality ,safety , weather , community , jobs , opportunity all suck. suck. Why do I live here ? Oh yeah it’s all I can afford.
"Cram" isn't people it is from the pre war era. Did you catch that the scientists names were Hawthorne, like the lab above vault four. Yes the war is already going on and has been for ten years "What year is it?" The series is 2296 so shady sands was nuked about nineteen years ago when Max was a kid. Ghouls can heal, that is why the finger works. IMO the Shady Sands memorial was not actual ashes or real blood, after all you don't drink real blood in communion. Moldaver is alive IMO because she had her own Cryo pod somewhere. As shown in level Twelve. Also a well established tech in fallout. Flame mother because of the nukeing of Shady Sands and she is leading them out of the flames. Just guessing don't know for sure.
@@SwiftJustice but a huge pop center and still seat of a lot of gov't functions. so its destruction would be a huge blow to the NCR that was already on a downward spiral by what was going on in the NV area
@@YesItsAimbotYeah, that's really clear in the games but my guess is they'll keep it ambiguous in the TV series and never mention China so the CCP won't block the show.
@@genghispecan Amazon China apparently closed its domestic business in 2019. is prime video even in China? the games aren't officially sold in China but not technically banned by the gov't. So Amazon may not even try to sell the show in China anyway.
Different sects different beliefs. Some brotherhoods take in people to staff others restrict to family members. Some are isolationist to the extreme. Some do not even give the pretense of helping people.
I’ve got bad news for you. Not only have humans waged war long before capitalism took its modern form, war also used to be much more common than it is now m.
@@Epistolary8 Okay? I didnt say capitalism is the cause of war, I said capitalism LEADS to war. I also think your definition of war might be a bit off cause last I checked there has been an active war on this planet for like the last 100 years in a row or so
Probably the best reaction gals out there. Lately I've learned that I'm more of a Haylo kind of guy but then Kiss comes up with a "I'm with you, Goosey"-comment that is a blink and you'll miss it statement that just made me smile.
He's lucky he didn't buy the ranch in bakersfield. What was left of it was necropolis in fallout 1. Though I guess he ended up as a ghoul anyway so maybe it wouldn't have mattered. The boy and his dog comment was a reference to one of the inspirations for fallout 1 'What are the bad vaults' .....Most of them. There were a handful of vaults that were actually intended to be exactly as they were stated to be and were intended for high up VIPs, politicians, members of the enclave and the best and brightest. Other than that most vaults were designed to run some kind of unethical experiment on the residents without their knowledge. Some more horrifying than others. Vault tec did stuff even nazi doctors in the camps would have called horrifyingly unethical and insane. Though there were a few 'normal' vaults that were used as control vaults as part of the experiments. In short, if you play the games you'll come across many of those vaults and find out what happened in them
a number of vaults were incomplete or didn't get their supplies or were just run badly such as no population controls. So even a number of the normal vaults failed. Some vaults like 4 had a designated pre war operation. One vault was about crop research to produce blight resistant crops or other useful crops. If vault tech had been smart they could easily have repurposed the vaults or multifunctional so they would be in operation and generating revenue and potential profit. plus for natural disasters the vaults could also be used as supply/relief centers since they wouldn't be damaged by the disaster.
The Reds refer to Communists. In the 60s, we had what was called the Red Scare in which any American who was even suspected of having Communist sympathies faced serious rammifications legally and professionally. Fear, as it turns out, has a way of overriding common sense.
Russia was communist. they hate the Chinese and were allied against them. In our world if the Chinese went to war against Russia or the US the other side would go against the Chinese. Same with the Russians.
The Fallout universe is a blend of the fantasy technology of 'the Jetsons' and real world 1950's America. So things like power armor, robots, pip-boys etc ..all powered by a sort of dirty atomic energy ...mixed with real 1950's America ...particularly the music, mid-century-modern styling ,,,and politics. It was the era of the Cuban missile crisis, the McCarthy witch trials, reds-under-the-bed etc.
Fallout is inspired by the 50's. In the 50s nuclear tech was the new thing. You could think of it like the AI of the time. There was a constant tension between the west and the Soviet Union including fear of nuclear war at any moment. 3:57 That is Matt Berry and he is great, check out any of his stuff, but Toast of London is really good. Shady Sands is a reference to the first two games. It is the capitol of the New California Republic
Hey I live in Bakersfield !!! You’re right. It does indeed suck. I live here because cheap housing but yeah. I lived in palm desert for 10 years though that’s a plus.
14:21 the music that plays here is actually from the third game's main menu! when i first watched this scene, it gave me chills and so much nostalgia
It is also the main menu music for Fallout 4.
Goosebumps . . . Fallout 4 music . . .
The "Reds" referred to the communist. In the Fallout world, the "Reds" were the Chinese communist who America were fighting during the Resource War. The Reds also referred to the Russia, or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic as they were known at that time. The show never said it but the crashed satellite the doctor died next to in episode 2 said CCCP on it. CCCP is Russian for USSR or the Soviet Union. Fun Fact: In episode 1 the dads referred Cooper as a Pinko. Pinko means communist sympathizer.
I hope they do a "Reds" focused season too just like this Vault-Tec heavy season.
@@rusenakman And suddenly take us to Anchorage pre bombs, during the resource wars?
Unless they bring in specific characters similar to that of FO4 or lore discussions found in FONV:OWB, I can't see it possible to happen.
Also, knowing how the show ends, I have a feeling they're dragging us in a completely different direction than that.
Yeah the red scare.
Cyrillic is indeed moon runes
Also, not just in the Fallout world, but also the REAL world.
"A Man And His Dog" is a reference to "A Boy And His Dog", a 1975 film based in the far off future of 2024 where the world has been ravaged by nuclear war. In it, a boy travels the wasteland with his telepathic dog companion
amazing how many people forget it was a novel long before
@@toomanyaccounts The novella was written by Harlan Ellison, author of other great works such as "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream", and published in 1969.
But this easter egg is referencing the movie, being that Cooper Howard is an actor and the poster is that of a movie he starred in.
The creators of Fallout were likely aware of Ellison's work, but many of their inspirations, such as developer Scott Bennie naming the fan-favorite companion dog "Dogmeat", came from the movie
Lol that was don Johnson..it was actually not bad for 80s cheese... convincing enough to inspire a game
@@stephenestep2270 it was not the only inspiration. Look up "A Canticle For Liebowitz" a religious order that collects tech and knowledge, sound familiar?
@@stephenestep2270 a movie so convincing it had to have been adapted from a 1969 novella by Harlan Ellison.
Goodbye, Goosey!
I screamed when codsworth started talking. So many Easter eggs and I LOVE IT!
Matt Berry is the guy that does the robot voices. He’s also in the “IT Crowd” and “What we do in the shadows”. Both great shows which I do recommend.
So, the Fallout universe puts a big focus on political propaganda, specifically against "communism", hence the reference to "the Reds". It's not really meant to be the show taking a sort of political stance, but to reflect the culture that the characters in the universe lived in before the Great War. The tension between "The Reds" is what led to the Great War in the first place.
That awkward moment when you look at today and realize all of that anti-commie propaganda was justified and warranted. They played the super long game.
lol "communism", like it's some new concept people never heard of...
@@Tijuanabill Not really implying it's anything new, I put it in quotes as it more represents the more radicalized and propagated idea of communism that was spread around in America during the 1950s and 1960s.
@@sunnydraws2513 You mean the completely accurate warnings about where it will lead, that obviously came completely and totally true? It failed in every country. There are zero instances where it worked. It's an awful system, that requires you fence the people in, to keep them from running away from it. Literally hundreds of millions of human beings died from Communism.
Yet portraying a war between USA and communists and its fallout is political
Yes, "reds" refers to communists. Read up on The Red Scare and McCarthyism if you want to know more about what was going on in America at the time the bombs drop in the Fallout universe. It was also illegal to even discuss labor unions.
Sounds to me McCarthyism is still present to this very day in the US. Kinda telling just how far to the right of (actual) center the country has become.
Politically speaking, in an economical context, progressives is as "far left" you can come in the US today. And they're still only (actual) center leaning right.
Actual far left, like UAW/MF, are long gone, for several decades. Capitalism has gone way too far, all the way into fascism with a totalitarian flavors.
History repeats itself, and whatnot.
"Who's this guy? I love his voice." That's Matt Berry, regular human bartender.
To be fair, Barb's reaction to Coop's affection at the vault film set is a bit more understandable when you remember that she's currently surrounded by coworkers and she probably wants to project an air of professionalism.
I know that guy with the voice. His name is Jackie Daytona. Last I heard he was bartender in Pennsylvania.
That’s just how they talk in Tucson, Arizœnia.
A bit more clarification on usage of the term "Red/Reds." In the Fallout universe, "Reds" does generally mean the Chinese. but was mostly used to refer to the USSR from the 50's up thru the Soviet dissolution in 1991. The Red scare in the US basically began when the USSR began testing atomic bombs in the late 40's and really took off when they began testing hydrogen bombs in the 50's. I remember having "Duck and cover" drills in elementary school in the 60's and early 70's.
The actor who plays Bartholomew (the voice of the robot) in this episode is one of the stars of a GREAT show that was recommended in the discord, "What we do in the shadows" its hilarious and you should definitely check that show out.
I've seen a handful of reactions now for Fallout, and most have made comments that they aren't sure what "Reds" are. It was a super common term for a while where the US would call communists Reds, and everyone was worried about "The Red Scare/Peril, Menace", because a lot of communist flags and stars were red and the communist books were usually bound in red.
Kiss mentioned something I find interesting. She wonders if the Flame Mother is a clone. I believe that’s true. I think there is another person we’ve seen who is much younger, but has the same nose, eye configuration and complexion. I think she is a clone, and a younger self is out there. I mean Moldaver is in the Hollywood Forever crypts. She has access to many bodies, and is a scientist per this episode’s flashback. Something was stolen from her and she wants it back.
The poster when cooper walks down the stairs, all the dogs in fallout as well as the show opening with “The End”, are all nods to the book a boy and his dog at the end of the world, a big inspiration for the creation of the original fallout game.
I don’t smoke but Walton Goggins looked so cool smoking in that black and white ad for Vault-Tec Haha.
Smoking is one of the most disgusting things you can do, it smells terrible and increases the risk of getting cancer, but DAMN does it look cool.
This is basically how every single military contractor or supplier works in the USA. They have a fiduciary responsibility to make sure people stay in wars in the Middle East.
The designated warzone
Good thing they’re not the ones deciding when the US should wage war. If they did, they would keep us in Afghanistan forever.
I still cant get over the voice of vault 4 overseer being the same voice actor as jerry from rick and morty. I cannot unhear it
Welcome to the glory of Matt Berry. He is such a great character actor
"Reds" : Communist; a Western and especially American usage until the end of the Cold War was to refer to communists as "reds" and communism as the "red peril"; derived from frequent use of red as the dominant color in flags of communist countries; capitalization varies, leaning lower-case
That's post World War II and Cold War era history, not just Fallout lore.
Moldaver probably got her hands on a cryostasis device or stole the plans or even helped develop the technology.
It all seems to be that she wasn't a ghoul and cloning was out of her moral code.. I strongly suggest the cryostasis, more appropriate for the lore and the feel of fallout..
girls, you need to call the Vailt number on the screen!!
message it
The next episode is such a banger! 😉
Both USSR and Chinese flags are on a field of red.
I've been looking forward to this. Keep those jokes coming.
If you're a film student, this is a great episode to analyse after watching the next one. You'll see all the little clues that mean something entirely different once you know what's really going on. It's a masterclass at misdirecting the viewer and playing on their expectations to 'trap' them into a false assumption.
Couldn’t agree more. So fun to rewatch.
As someone who lives in California, Bakersfield sucks
Panama and Buena vista here. It’s not too bad. Cheap housing and golf. ⛳️
Air quality ,safety , weather , community , jobs , opportunity all suck. suck.
Why do I live here ? Oh yeah it’s all I can afford.
Glorious american education system
You should checkout "What we do in the Shadows" TV series to see more from Matt Berry (SnipSnips)
Reds is a term for communist/socialist
Please react to "Solo leveling" anime , you'll love it guys , i enjoy watching ur vids
"Cram" isn't people it is from the pre war era.
Did you catch that the scientists names were Hawthorne, like the lab above vault four.
Yes the war is already going on and has been for ten years
"What year is it?" The series is 2296 so shady sands was nuked about nineteen years ago when Max was a kid.
Ghouls can heal, that is why the finger works.
IMO the Shady Sands memorial was not actual ashes or real blood, after all you don't drink real blood in communion.
Moldaver is alive IMO because she had her own Cryo pod somewhere. As shown in level Twelve. Also a well established tech in fallout.
Flame mother because of the nukeing of Shady Sands and she is leading them out of the flames. Just guessing don't know for sure.
Shady Sands looks to have been destroyed in 2283 since it was to happen years after Fallout NV.
@@toomanyaccountsshady sands ia already the former capital by NV. Says so in a terminal.
@@SwiftJustice but a huge pop center and still seat of a lot of gov't functions. so its destruction would be a huge blow to the NCR that was already on a downward spiral by what was going on in the NV area
Yeah, we know: *Soylent Green* is people.
"The Reds" refers to the communists of Russia and the Red Army.
The "communist" part is correct but they are refering to china. In the fallout universe the nuclear war was between China and the US.
@@YesItsAimbotYeah, that's really clear in the games but my guess is they'll keep it ambiguous in the TV series and never mention China so the CCP won't block the show.
@@genghispecan haha that makes sense, never looked at it that way.
@@genghispecan Amazon China apparently closed its domestic business in 2019. is prime video even in China? the games aren't officially sold in China but not technically banned by the gov't. So Amazon may not even try to sell the show in China anyway.
Ghul when many people dont get into the vaults: "Nah no problem"
Ghul when dogs are not allowed in: "THATS ENOUGH!"
Pls watch Vinland Saga
Pls watch Vinland saga
BOS Knights are not celibate, Maximus made that up because he was super shy.
Different sects different beliefs. Some brotherhoods take in people to staff others restrict to family members. Some are isolationist to the extreme. Some do not even give the pretense of helping people.
This show, the games, and the original story does an excellent job at showing you why capitalism sucks and will always end with war
I’ve got bad news for you. Not only have humans waged war long before capitalism took its modern form, war also used to be much more common than it is now m.
@@Epistolary8 Okay? I didnt say capitalism is the cause of war, I said capitalism LEADS to war. I also think your definition of war might be a bit off cause last I checked there has been an active war on this planet for like the last 100 years in a row or so
You guys were the first reactors to accurate bring up the management vault and 31 connection from this episode. I'm impressed.
nope plenty of the ones I watched did so. thing is the actual management vault is vault 0.
@@toomanyaccounts , I've watched about 10 or so reactors so far and not one of them made this guess so early but okay lol.
I also think Vault 31 is middle or junior managers only.
that guy in yellow is actually a vampire in disguise. he hails from staten island, he goes by lazlo cravensworth
long live The Pig King 🙌
I think most of us who have played Fallout got chills when Lucy lifted the NCR flag and we heard the music.
For sure.
Patrolling in the Mojave makes you wish for nuclear winter.
Indeed
Probably the best reaction gals out there. Lately I've learned that I'm more of a Haylo kind of guy but then Kiss comes up with a "I'm with you, Goosey"-comment that is a blink and you'll miss it statement that just made me smile.
13:19 Such a sister moment. Very sweet.
He's lucky he didn't buy the ranch in bakersfield. What was left of it was necropolis in fallout 1. Though I guess he ended up as a ghoul anyway so maybe it wouldn't have mattered. The boy and his dog comment was a reference to one of the inspirations for fallout 1
'What are the bad vaults'
.....Most of them. There were a handful of vaults that were actually intended to be exactly as they were stated to be and were intended for high up VIPs, politicians, members of the enclave and the best and brightest. Other than that most vaults were designed to run some kind of unethical experiment on the residents without their knowledge. Some more horrifying than others. Vault tec did stuff even nazi doctors in the camps would have called horrifyingly unethical and insane. Though there were a few 'normal' vaults that were used as control vaults as part of the experiments. In short, if you play the games you'll come across many of those vaults and find out what happened in them
a number of vaults were incomplete or didn't get their supplies or were just run badly such as no population controls. So even a number of the normal vaults failed.
Some vaults like 4 had a designated pre war operation. One vault was about crop research to produce blight resistant crops or other useful crops. If vault tech had been smart they could easily have repurposed the vaults or multifunctional so they would be in operation and generating revenue and potential profit. plus for natural disasters the vaults could also be used as supply/relief centers since they wouldn't be damaged by the disaster.
The Reds refer to Communists. In the 60s, we had what was called the Red Scare in which any American who was even suspected of having Communist sympathies faced serious rammifications legally and professionally. Fear, as it turns out, has a way of overriding common sense.
"He can't read paper OR the room."
😅😂🤣💀
The reds are China not Russia just so you know
Russia was communist. they hate the Chinese and were allied against them. In our world if the Chinese went to war against Russia or the US the other side would go against the Chinese. Same with the Russians.
Beginning of the episode:
-Max: this is a cult
-Lucy: no it isn't
End of the episode:
-Lucy: you were right! this is a cult!
-Max: but I'm comfy
I really wished I can unsee how the Gulpers were made. Or born, I guess 😭
Yeah, if you enjoy Codworth, you two definitely need to watch What We Do In The Shadows (the TV Show specifically, though the movie is also good).
The Fallout universe is a blend of the fantasy technology of 'the Jetsons' and real world 1950's America. So things like power armor, robots, pip-boys etc ..all powered by a sort of dirty atomic energy ...mixed with real 1950's America ...particularly the music, mid-century-modern styling ,,,and politics. It was the era of the Cuban missile crisis, the McCarthy witch trials, reds-under-the-bed etc.
The show really captures the paranoid optimism of the 50s, when the culture of fallout shelters was at its peak
Fallout is inspired by the 50's. In the 50s nuclear tech was the new thing. You could think of it like the AI of the time. There was a constant tension between the west and the Soviet Union including fear of nuclear war at any moment.
3:57 That is Matt Berry and he is great, check out any of his stuff, but Toast of London is really good.
Shady Sands is a reference to the first two games. It is the capitol of the New California Republic
Hey I live in Bakersfield !!!
You’re right. It does indeed suck. I live here because cheap housing but yeah.
I lived in palm desert for 10 years though that’s a plus.
So funny you thought the Flame Mother ceremony was "satanic" lol, it's literally the Ash Wednesday ritual of the Catholic Church.
About the.. ceremony with ashes and blood- remember what Catholic Church communion wine represents, and the ash on foreheads for Ash Wednesday.
Matt Berry is the chum by the pool, and if you see him in "What we do in the shadows" you will, necessarily, love him.
Wow. Reactors who actually have empathy for Maximus? A surprise to be sure, but a good one.
Fun fact: the cyclops overseer in vault 4 does the voice of Jerry in Rick and Morty
The 'sewing on the finger' thing is just the way things work in the game.
hey you guys never did Vessel of Hatred for Diablo :(
You should call and text the Vault-Tec number . . .
I hope you both take a look at this, it's really fun That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
Overlord
Shangri-La Frontier
10:50 You'll note she never answered the question...
Outro theme at 1.25x is a hip shaker
I can't WAIT until you guys watch episode 7 lol
They've already finished season 1 on Patreon.
FYI, the conversation between Lucy and Overseer Benjamin was about the politics of immigration hidden in a cleaver Fallout way.