See how Ireland fought a civil war over the Anglo-Irish Treaty over its status as a country. Music: Celtic Impulse by Kevin MacLeod Link: incompetech.fi... License: creativecommons...
Nope, ira anti treaty forces were against the split of Ireland, wanted an independent state instead of being a British dominion and swearing allegiance to a foreign British king. Pro treaty forces wanted to accept as they thought they couldn't make any more gains through war, with a view of working for a United Ireland in the future.
It was united before 26 counties of the UK decided to secede. They would have to re-unite with the UK again. I’m not sure how that’d work as it’d be too complicated.. They shot themselves in the foot really.. 🇬🇧
@@noodlyappendage6729 Secede? Interesting phrase considering a treaty was signed between the Irish and British representatives after the WOI that made the Irish free state which was a crown dominion. Then in 1949 the dominion declared itself a republic. As you can no secession took place. The reason why it's too complicated is to be blunt the Republic will in all likely hood never reunite with the UK. Obviously if NI so wishes to reunite with the ROI at some point then a referendum would be held and action taken in accordance of the will of the people of NI unionist or nationalist.
And thus began the Irish ignoring the complicated history between the British and themselves, which involved more cooperation than "oppression" in favor of a lie that the potato famine was a genocidal plot, Irish wuz slaves, Cromwells actions were an everyday occurrence directed against them specifically because they were Irish, the Irish were tortured regularly, and just generally being horribly oppressed.
The Machinesmith the reason Ireland is pissed for the famine is because the island was making all the food it needed but the English prioritised there people over the farmers of Ireland and the only aid they offer was only to people who renounced there Irish names to destroy our culture.
I do think the Irish over exaggerate their treatment. Of course, the British still did some wrong things, but come on, every Brit I've ever met loves Irish people, the UK and Ireland are good trade partners, what's the point in still holding these grudges? Why cry over this when there are other places like Catalonia which will never be accepted to become independent. It's a strange world we live in...
@@ECloudDog I am 4 years late but Catalonia and Ireland are very different in their struggles. Catalonia was repressed under a fascist regime which ended and they were then given autonomy and apologies for the mistakes that weren't theirs by the Spanish, and then they cried for more, hosted an illegal referendum, did some naughty stuff like let people vote multiple times and let minors vote, saw a less than 50% population turnout, and the vote boycott from those that wanted to remain apart of Spain, but Ireland was quite a bit different.
+Altair Auditore They didn't fight the UK. The civil war means they fought among themselves. The UK did support the pro-treaty forces though. For obvious reasons.
+Musti Ali The Turks independence from who or what ? so far as I know, the Turks dominated other regions in Ottoman era; arabian peninsula, the levant, north Africa, eastern Europe and the Balkans
If by the Jordanian civil war you mean Black September of the 1970s, the focus will be on the control over cities and smaller areas rather than over the state, which could be difficult for finding information about it
Being British, I have to say how much I respect Irish for getting through all this. The war of independence, the brutal reprisals from black & tans, murder on both sides, then the bloody civil war... and not to forget the shell-shocked traumatised Irish regiments returning from WW1. And yet, despite all the terror & deaths, you came through it all.
@Michael Collins He sold out the republic to the brittish without a vote from the Dahl, and then actively fought against the Republicans in the Civil war, shelling the four courts with British guns.
The anti treaty IRA never held that amount of territory - even in heavily republican areas like Kerry and Cork they never held contiguous areas just the odd town and made it difficult for the Free Staters to move around between major areas
I was born on a Dublin street where the Royal drums do beat And the loving English feet they tramped all over us, And each and every night when me father'd come home tight He'd invite the neighbors outside with this chorus: Oh, come out you black and tans, Come out and fight me like a man Show your wives how you won medals down in Flanders Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away, From the green and lovely lanes in Killashandra. Come let me hear you tell How you slammed the great Pernell, When you fought them well and truly persecuted, Where are the smears and jeers That you bravely let us hear When our heroes of sixteen were executed. Come tell us how you slew Those brave Arabs two by two Like the Zulus they had spears and bows and arrows, How you bravely slew each one With your sixteen pounder gun And you frightened them poor natives to their marrow. The day is coming fast And the time is here at last, When each yeoman will be cast aside before us, And if there be a need Sure my kids wil sing, "Godspeed!" With a verse or two of Steven Beehan's chorus.
Spare Northern Ireland (which probably would've still been kept separate anyway), the Treaty seems to have been worth it in retrospect, given that Ireland ended up becoming a fully independent republic in the end, rather than a dominion.
+The Dragon Historian Protestant population like the UK rather than the rest of Ireland, which was Catholic. The North's economy was more industrial than the rest of Ireland. A lot of Northern Irish Protestants are descended from Scottish migrants, rather than being purely Irish descended, leading to a cultural distancing.
Imagine that a country decided to vote to become independent by about 3 votes for, to 1 against. Now imagine instead of giving that country independence as is democratically required, their owners decided to draw an imaginary line around the 25% that didnt want to go independent and made them stay, in a completely illegal and undemocratic fashion. That is why. I mean if I lived in Northern Ireland myself, I dont understand why I couldnt draw an imaginary line around my house and declare it to be a part of the Republic since 100% of the people in my house decided that we want to join the Republic. The creation of Northern Ireland was nothing more than an undemocratic process ensuring Loyalist majority in an extremely large Republican country. I suspect something similar may happen in future referendums, that countries will simply demand that their minorities get their own countries and completely revoke the rights of democracy. We seen it in Bosnia when the minority Serbs decided that they didnt want the majority Croat/Muslim population to breakaway from Serb-dominated Yugoslavia. In fact we almost seen it in Scotland recently, when the outer islands all voted to stay in the UK and one BBC commenter suggested that if Scotland goes independent, surely the UK can keep the islands. The Scottish response was "well if Scotland votes to stay in the UK, can we keep the parts that voted for independence then?"
+Kiki Is Nice So, first, parliament drew the line based on the votes, such that the most people got what they wanted in terms of being in the republic or staying in the Uk. A nation dividing over different ideas democratic and has happened before, such as Pakistan and Bangladesh. That does not mean it is the same today, however, and if many people in Northern Ireland want to join the republic, they ought to raise the issue with their local MPs, because do you seriously think that if Northern Ireland held a vote and decided to join the republic that anyone would be able to stop them? Also note that just because your household wants to be in the republic does not mean everyone else does, and creating nations based on households is impractical, hence why the line drawn represents a majority of people getting what they want, not everyone, which is more or less impossible. As for the Scotland point, one BBC reporter does not represent the rest of England and should not be treated as such. Also the Scotland keeping the outer islands point doesn't work because Scotland staying in the U.K means the whole thing is 'kept' (by choice) in the UK. Lastly, the validity of the reporter's point lies in the geographical practicality of running the islands around Scotland since they can be accessed by boat, as opposed to drawling lines around small areas like houses and working that in to a national political entity.
" because do you seriously think that if Northern Ireland held a vote and decided to join the republic that anyone would be able to stop them?" The goverment wont let us have a vote in the first place, they claim that there is no support for it, even though there is a huge support.
Not sure but I also believe the outcome of WWI may of played a role since UK being on the winning side kept their Superpower status so I believe Northern Ireland may of felt it would be more economically and militarily secured better than being with a nation that is anti British.
Because this question will most definitely come up, the reason north Ireland refused to join the Irish free state was because while tree south is majority Catholic Irishmen, the north is majority protestant Ulster-Scot
I don't understand how could/can exist so many pro-Treaty Irish people even in Ireland. They fought for the English occupation of a part of their land. Just because that part has a little bit different religion althought they are Irish too...
+Ben Cook Depends on where you draw boundaries though. If you draw a line across the middle of the island of Ireland and had the north half vote they would vote to leave the UK. If you drew a line in Northern Ireland as we see it today that took out the counties on the North East side of it the rest would leave the UK by consent.
Allow me to respond to this. 1) It's safe to assume that you're one of those people who have no fucking idea what the UK is. England is a constituent country of the UK. The UK owns Northern Ireland. Calling the UK England is like calling NATO America. 2) "That is very sad" So you're saying it's sad that people got their way in a democratic manner? Are you a fascist or what?
Is it possible to do any post-colonial African Conflicts in the Sub-Sahara, such as the First and Second Congo War, The Ogaden War,Somalian Civil War,Djiboutian War of Independence, Angolan Civil War,etc?
You sound like a three year old... speak English. Just because you're jealous of the British, doesn't mean you have to support terrorists. I don't think the USA would like it if they had Al Qaeda or Daesh running freely around their country, so neither do we. Northern Ireland has murderers in her parliament, how do you think that makes us feel - and by us, I mean all of us. Not just Unionists.
+BPLTV Usually with Paint.net or Microsoft paint, heck some people say this is the only good use of these tools. Though I have seen some do it with adobe flash.
Wait, what was the point of this war if they could just opt-out? Couldn't the pro treaty forces just go like: We're gonna opt out anyway, so let's not fight? Pr was the IRA fighting out of principle or something?
It wasn't a war between Northern & Southern Ireland, you see. It was a war which split the Irish independence movement between those who supported the new Irish Free State formed under the 1921 Treaty and those against it who saw the new state as a "sellout" because it did not grant the entire 32-county island of Ireland the status of an independent republic. Yeah you could say the anti-Treaty forces were fighting "out of principle" because for many of them, having members of the Irish parliament taking an oath of allegiance to the British Crown was unfathomable. However, the pro-Treaty side argued that an Irish Free State with the same Dominion status that British Canada had at that time was the only thing that could have been negotiated with the British, that the anti-Treaty side knew this very well right from the start and that the Treaty was merely a "stepping stone" to achieving independence. Arguably, the pro-Treaty side would be vindicated because the 26-counties that formed the Irish Free State did achieve full sovereignty by the time a new constitution in 1937 replaced the one ratified under the Treaty in 1922 and Ireland left the British Commonwealth after declaring itself a republic in 1949. The partition question was never truly resolved until the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 when both sides finally and firmly agreed that only the people of N. Ireland could decide if they wanted to stay in the UK or join a united Ireland.
@@noodlyappendage6729 British citizens descended from Scottish settlers who had been brought in to replace Irish inhabitants in an earlier rebellion (hence the term "Scotch-Irish..." though considering scotch is an alcoholic beverage, we may as well have gone all the way and said "Scotch-Whiskey"). Lest you think I'm some raving Irish Republican, I'm American with blood going back to all the British Isles and Germany (but I repeat myself). Still, as a student of history, it seems reductionist to act like Northern Irish citizenship took away from the issues of sovereignty most people throughout the island had when considering they were dealing with an empire that they had repeatedly tried to break away from for several centuries up to that point (not sure how accurate the 700 year line is, though, as it seems a lot of the independence fervor came post-Cromwell, but I could be wrong).
@@morgant.dulaman8733 British citizens in Northern Ireland descend from English, Irish, Welsh and Scottish people. Irish people also make up a portion of Northern Ireland. NI is made up of mostly Scottish, English and Irish descendents. There is no such a thing as NI citizenship. We are UK citizens. Not English citizens.
longshot 246886 they landed in 1169 and were in and out of the country until the planations. They stayed in the Pale for those early years and we often fought them sporadically, then the plantations came and we started to fight constantly. After the act of Union in 1801 the situation kind of calmed down but riots were common and evictions resulted in violence. Then the war of independance came along. After that came the troubles but it wasn't as such Ireland that fought more so Irish people.
so this was a war betwean people who hated british vs people who jated british more?
Basically sums it up
It sounds really stupid, but...yeah.
Nope, ira anti treaty forces were against the split of Ireland, wanted an independent state instead of being a British dominion and swearing allegiance to a foreign British king.
Pro treaty forces wanted to accept as they thought they couldn't make any more gains through war, with a view of working for a United Ireland in the future.
At it most bare bones basic, yes. however, it’s much more complex than that.
Yep
Collins hero respect from Italy 🇮🇹 🇮🇪
I love this channel. This deserves way more views.
You got your wish
Which program do you use? I'd like to make some alternate history scenarios. :)
nice video !
I had a feeling Connaught would be antitreaty.
Hopefully one day Ireland will be whole.
Yeah under london's administration
@colegilbert673 how do you plan to achieve this without invasion?
🇬🇧
You should do the vietnam war
song?
ireland should unite.
It was united before 26 counties of the UK decided to secede. They would have to re-unite with the UK again. I’m not sure how that’d work as it’d be too complicated.. They shot themselves in the foot really.. 🇬🇧
@@noodlyappendage6729 Secede? Interesting phrase considering a treaty was signed between the Irish and British representatives after the WOI that made the Irish free state which was a crown dominion. Then in 1949 the dominion declared itself a republic. As you can no secession took place. The reason why it's too complicated is to be blunt the Republic will in all likely hood never reunite with the UK. Obviously if NI so wishes to reunite with the ROI at some point then a referendum would be held and action taken in accordance of the will of the people of NI unionist or nationalist.
@@StrongandStable17 hello mate, is there another word you’d advice me to use instead? Yes the 26 counties only became a Republic in 1949 ✌️
The leprechauns should of helped the pro treaty forces
And thus began the Irish ignoring the complicated history between the British and themselves, which involved more cooperation than "oppression" in favor of a lie that the potato famine was a genocidal plot, Irish wuz slaves, Cromwells actions were an everyday occurrence directed against them specifically because they were Irish, the Irish were tortured regularly, and just generally being horribly oppressed.
The Machinesmith the reason Ireland is pissed for the famine is because the island was making all the food it needed but the English prioritised there people over the farmers of Ireland and the only aid they offer was only to people who renounced there Irish names to destroy our culture.
I do think the Irish over exaggerate their treatment. Of course, the British still did some wrong things, but come on, every Brit I've ever met loves Irish people, the UK and Ireland are good trade partners, what's the point in still holding these grudges? Why cry over this when there are other places like Catalonia which will never be accepted to become independent. It's a strange world we live in...
@@ECloudDog The only people who still hold those grudges are those on the Internet.
@@StrongandStable17 all of the media of young irish mocking the death of that pedo protector queen lizzy say different
@@ECloudDog I am 4 years late but Catalonia and Ireland are very different in their struggles. Catalonia was repressed under a fascist regime which ended and they were then given autonomy and apologies for the mistakes that weren't theirs by the Spanish, and then they cried for more, hosted an illegal referendum, did some naughty stuff like let people vote multiple times and let minors vote, saw a less than 50% population turnout, and the vote boycott from those that wanted to remain apart of Spain, but Ireland was quite a bit different.
How could they defeat the UK so quickly?
+Altair Auditore They didn't fight the UK. The civil war means they fought among themselves. The UK did support the pro-treaty forces though. For obvious reasons.
+EmperorTigerstar To what extent did the UK support the pro-treaty then?
Altair Auditore Only moral support.
+EmperorTigerstar ah thx, love your vids keep it up
+Altair Auditore dude. the pro UK forces won...
England should of helped
A) It's the UK, not England
B) They did help
Week of St. Patrick's day means an Ireland related video. Enjoy! Also thanks for 40,000 subs!
Go raibh míle maith agat, EmperorTigerstar :)
+EmperorTigerstar
Next year predictions:
Nine years war
Williamite rebellion
O'Doherty's Rebellion
Man, the south always loses civil wars, don't they...
Plz Turkish indpendce i im not really Good at english plz
+Musti Ali The Turks independence from who or what ? so far as I know, the Turks dominated other regions in Ottoman era; arabian peninsula, the levant, north Africa, eastern Europe and the Balkans
maybe you should do the "south sudan war : every day"
Can you do the Jordanian civil war?
The Armenian- Azerbaijan war?
The Kosovo war?
The Transnistria War?
If by the Jordanian civil war you mean Black September of the 1970s, the focus will be on the control over cities and smaller areas rather than over the state, which could be difficult for finding information about it
iam surprised that there are who remember our civil war
+Jaffar Dawahreh Is the Black September that civil war ?
Man, I finally found anyone thats not jordanian and knows the jordanian civil war.
Long live armenia
Being British, I have to say how much I respect Irish for getting through all this.
The war of independence, the brutal reprisals from black & tans, murder on both sides, then the bloody civil war... and not to forget the shell-shocked traumatised Irish regiments returning from WW1.
And yet, despite all the terror & deaths, you came through it all.
stfu colonizer
and their GDP per capita puts britain to shame!
@@sheepmasterrace
It certainly does. And all the happiness indices etc
@@sheepmasterracepurely because it's a tax haven for corporations
Irish Nationalists were to blame for EVERYTHING! Support we Irish Unionists and condemn these racist Nazis for their utter evil.
R.I.P Michael Collins.
Preston Garvey rip Collins Irish hero
The Accordion Man he was a traitor
@Michael Collins
He sold out the republic to the brittish without a vote from the Dahl, and then actively fought against the Republicans in the Civil war, shelling the four courts with British guns.
Anybody wonders what would've happened if the Easter Rising had been successful
@@livinglifeform7974 *Daíl and yes there was a vote and it was in favour of the treaty albeit narrowly.
Can you do American expansion? Not just with territory claimed, but also with progression of actual settlememts in said areas
he's working on it.... allegedly
@@duskpede5146 7 years later
The anti treaty IRA never held that amount of territory - even in heavily republican areas like Kerry and Cork they never held contiguous areas just the odd town and made it difficult for the Free Staters to move around between major areas
I was born on a Dublin street where the Royal drums do beat
And the loving English feet they tramped all over us,
And each and every night when me father'd come home tight
He'd invite the neighbors outside with this chorus:
Oh, come out you black and tans,
Come out and fight me like a man
Show your wives how you won medals down in Flanders
Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away,
From the green and lovely lanes in Killashandra.
Come let me hear you tell
How you slammed the great Pernell,
When you fought them well and truly persecuted,
Where are the smears and jeers
That you bravely let us hear
When our heroes of sixteen were executed.
Come tell us how you slew
Those brave Arabs two by two
Like the Zulus they had spears and bows and arrows,
How you bravely slew each one
With your sixteen pounder gun
And you frightened them poor natives to their marrow.
The day is coming fast
And the time is here at last,
When each yeoman will be cast aside before us,
And if there be a need
Sure my kids wil sing, "Godspeed!"
With a verse or two of Steven Beehan's chorus.
What
Game Zone Alex it is a song
What Black and Tans were in the Irish Civil War?
Bro the Irish civil war was IRA VS IRA
Wrong conflict
it should be thought in english schools what they did to the irish. just saying.
It is lmao
Spare Northern Ireland (which probably would've still been kept separate anyway), the Treaty seems to have been worth it in retrospect, given that Ireland ended up becoming a fully independent republic in the end, rather than a dominion.
Why did Northern Ireland decide to stay with the UK?
+The Dragon Historian Protestant population like the UK rather than the rest of Ireland, which was Catholic. The North's economy was more industrial than the rest of Ireland. A lot of Northern Irish Protestants are descended from Scottish migrants, rather than being purely Irish descended, leading to a cultural distancing.
Imagine that a country decided to vote to become independent by about 3 votes for, to 1 against. Now imagine instead of giving that country independence as is democratically required, their owners decided to draw an imaginary line around the 25% that didnt want to go independent and made them stay, in a completely illegal and undemocratic fashion. That is why.
I mean if I lived in Northern Ireland myself, I dont understand why I couldnt draw an imaginary line around my house and declare it to be a part of the Republic since 100% of the people in my house decided that we want to join the Republic. The creation of Northern Ireland was nothing more than an undemocratic process ensuring Loyalist majority in an extremely large Republican country. I suspect something similar may happen in future referendums, that countries will simply demand that their minorities get their own countries and completely revoke the rights of democracy. We seen it in Bosnia when the minority Serbs decided that they didnt want the majority Croat/Muslim population to breakaway from Serb-dominated Yugoslavia.
In fact we almost seen it in Scotland recently, when the outer islands all voted to stay in the UK and one BBC commenter suggested that if Scotland goes independent, surely the UK can keep the islands. The Scottish response was "well if Scotland votes to stay in the UK, can we keep the parts that voted for independence then?"
+Kiki Is Nice So, first, parliament drew the line based on the votes, such that the most people got what they wanted in terms of being in the republic or staying in the Uk. A nation dividing over different ideas democratic and has happened before, such as Pakistan and Bangladesh.
That does not mean it is the same today, however, and if many people in Northern Ireland want to join the republic, they ought to raise the issue with their local MPs, because do you seriously think that if Northern Ireland held a vote and decided to join the republic that anyone would be able to stop them? Also note that just because your household wants to be in the republic does not mean everyone else does, and creating nations based on households is impractical, hence why the line drawn represents a majority of people getting what they want, not everyone, which is more or less impossible.
As for the Scotland point, one BBC reporter does not represent the rest of England and should not be treated as such. Also the Scotland keeping the outer islands point doesn't work because Scotland staying in the U.K means the whole thing is 'kept' (by choice) in the UK. Lastly, the validity of the reporter's point lies in the geographical practicality of running the islands around Scotland since they can be accessed by boat, as opposed to drawling lines around small areas like houses and working that in to a national political entity.
" because do you seriously think that if Northern Ireland held a vote and decided to join the republic that anyone would be able to stop them?"
The goverment wont let us have a vote in the first place, they claim that there is no support for it, even though there is a huge support.
Not sure but I also believe the outcome of WWI may of played a role since UK being on the winning side kept their Superpower status so I believe Northern Ireland may of felt it would be more economically and militarily secured better than being with a nation that is anti British.
Because this question will most definitely come up, the reason north Ireland refused to join the Irish free state was because while tree south is majority Catholic Irishmen, the north is majority protestant Ulster-Scot
*Basically yes*
I might not know a lot about British history, but you have answered the most accurate thing
Keep making these fantastic videos! I'm so glad I found you :3 Subbing immediately
Please make one about Denmark! All the way from north sea empire and then onwards with the crusades in estonia and so on! I would really enjoy that :D
+Telecaster Magician Thanks for making me laugh ;) where are you from though?
Enhorabuena por los 40.000 suscriptores!!!!
Does anyone know what happened to MrSpeedyD3 and TheKonijn24? They both deleted their accounts. :/
+Chitturi Abhinav Konijn quit and deleted this channel.
Do you have something about the Spanish Civil War?
Yes
NeverGreen35 I like how you only reply just because he comments. Just make a simple comment cause people don't get notifs from only replies
Let me ask someone! Why is Michael Collins the most loved revolutionary? Why do more people hate Eamon De Valera? Someone who knows please tell me!
Congratulations on 40,000 subscribers!
free and unite ireland!
the fight is not finished yet!
We dont need to fight anymore. The rest is simply a quick waiting game.
buchner funnel damn u
(just using a Fascist Italy Mannifest xD)
They don't want to be part of the republic though
I don't understand how could/can exist so many pro-Treaty Irish people even in Ireland. They fought for the English occupation of a part of their land. Just because that part has a little bit different religion althought they are Irish too...
I've been waiting for this one. Good Job
Why does England still have Irish land? Why didn't they cede all of it?
+Squealer Cause the people in Northern Ireland voted to stay in the UK
+YangSing1 That is very sad, thank you for the response.
Squealer Sad for some people maybe. But not sad for the people living in N.I
+Ben Cook Depends on where you draw boundaries though. If you draw a line across the middle of the island of Ireland and had the north half vote they would vote to leave the UK. If you drew a line in Northern Ireland as we see it today that took out the counties on the North East side of it the rest would leave the UK by consent.
Allow me to respond to this.
1) It's safe to assume that you're one of those people who have no fucking idea what the UK is. England is a constituent country of the UK. The UK owns Northern Ireland. Calling the UK England is like calling NATO America.
2) "That is very sad" So you're saying it's sad that people got their way in a democratic manner? Are you a fascist or what?
Leader of Pro Treaty forces (Michael Collins) is my 6th cousin
Great video! Is there any way you could do this from the Easter Rising in 1916 until partition in 1922? Thanks!
I am From southern Ireland limerick
Some of my ancestors are from Limerick, as well as Tyrone and Armagh
I am Calamari cork
LIMERICK CITY BOY
From Westmeath myself
I'm from Britain but my nan is from Dublin
Northern Ireland is Irish
nah, it's mostly scottish-anglo saxon
Irish and British 🇬🇧
You post early mate. Love your videos.
give northern ireland back
+Menswear Shiba They would join with the rest of Ireland if they wanted to.
Menswear Shiba evidence?
Menswear Shiba it was never yours to begin with
Augusto Pinochet wait...how the hell was it not ours to begin with. it was ours until the English invaded
AnIrishBloke the only time the island of Ireland has been fully united was under British rule.
They never used that as the official flag of finland
Feels like the Anti-treaty forces didn't resist lol
They resisted very hard.
E All hasnt worked out
We still have 2 crush the north
Rami O Bomb, oh look, and edgy 14 year old who knows nothing about sectarian rivalries with a communist profile pic.
I agree with Augusto. Even though I'm Irish, the north can do what they want.
Harry traitors like you are the reason we are still split in two
Southern Ireland was not a dominiean but in the commenwealth realm
Can you please do polish-soviet war of 1919-21?
Atleast Jacksepticeye survived it
Legendary MuRAMasa1337
I didn't know Jack was 100 years old.
Thanks! :)
Otatto
TIOCFALDH AR LA
This is just like Captain America: Civil war! Pro treaty and anti treaty forces? Captain America and Iron Man!
yeah Ireland!!!
Glory to my Irish brothers 🇺🇸🇮🇪
What a nice video! Thanks for making this!
Is it possible to do any post-colonial African Conflicts in the Sub-Sahara, such as the First and Second Congo War, The Ogaden War,Somalian Civil War,Djiboutian War of Independence, Angolan Civil War,etc?
Come out ye black and tans
What are you going on about?
@@noodlyappendage6729 it's a song.
@@noodlyappendage6729 average non-irish comment be like:
woooot!!! ira or go away
+Caleb Wilson Terrorists...
+Scott Mairs We done killed the brits military officials in eire. fuckoff brits.
You sound like a three year old... speak English.
Just because you're jealous of the British, doesn't mean you have to support terrorists. I don't think the USA would like it if they had Al Qaeda or Daesh running freely around their country, so neither do we. Northern Ireland has murderers in her parliament, how do you think that makes us feel - and by us, I mean all of us. Not just Unionists.
Also: Taiping rebellion every fortnight? Or every month?
1 Thumbs up, 1 Thumbs down already???
I'll give it a thumbs up! Keep up your great work!
COME OUT YA BLACK AND TANS COME OUT AND FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN!
Do the English civil war
I agree. English civil war!
Was there an English civil war in history?
Which one?
^I found an idiot.
Ollie bye already did the english civil war.
I am sure there is plenty of battle going on before world war 2 even began, it just that we didn't know about it
As an Irish person not really, after 1923 it largely ended.
With very little fighting afterwards.
Are you thinking of doing the English Civil War soon?
The Irish sure are a contentious lot!
land of whiners, easy to conquer by Vikings, Normans and British
@@jjrj8568 potato
Anti-treaty forces gained nothing
Which country do you have the most subscribers in?
U.S., obviously
İreland look like a bird :DDDD
Respect from Kirghizia 🇰🇬❤️🇮🇪
Respect Kyrgyzstan From Ireland 🇮🇪♥️🇰🇬
Shoulda had that irish spring song
Hello
Can you redo this
Nice top comment on cinema sins
英倫愛對決
Do Greek civil war every day.
have you done the norman conquest?
PEAKY BLINDERS
That could take long
R.I.P Pvt. Potatoes
Bad ending
That music was everything
Do Turkey please
Thanks for this lad
Ireland- where the 30 years war never ended
It was 800 years actually
cameron burke hes talking about the 30 years war look it up
How do you create these maps?
+BPLTV
Usually with Paint.net or Microsoft paint, heck some people say this is the only good use of these tools.
Though I have seen some do it with adobe flash.
whats the music cal
Read the description
Idea for New video:World War II in Africa :)
he basically did that when he made ww2 in europe and the Pacific
+Ramedlev s But not all the wars in Africa
Mihael Radojčević All... the wars? He has done every war within the timespan of ww2 that's for sure.
Also, death to fascism, freedom to the people!
ALERT triggered potato people ahead !!
Rule Britannia
based red
But what about the leprechauns? You forgot them in your video!
you must be an amazing skier
Never surrender 🇬🇧
Mr X Never beat your girlfriend
RadioactiveBob
Never smacked your fenian face
Mr X Never will
RadioactiveBob
I know
Except you did...Hence why the Majority of Ireland is Irish and Catholisism is the main Religion of the North...
How to make an Irish angry: UK is the best thing ever.
The Real Eugenia Im not angry... :/
Really? Ok then.
It worked on me 😂
ok, lol.
sorry weong year
not really a treaty when you have to invade the country to enforce it
Who invaded?
damn these irish nationalists
Wait, what was the point of this war if they could just opt-out? Couldn't the pro treaty forces just go like: We're gonna opt out anyway, so let's not fight? Pr was the IRA fighting out of principle or something?
It wasn't a war between Northern & Southern Ireland, you see. It was a war which split the Irish independence movement between those who supported the new Irish Free State formed under the 1921 Treaty and those against it who saw the new state as a "sellout" because it did not grant the entire 32-county island of Ireland the status of an independent republic. Yeah you could say the anti-Treaty forces were fighting "out of principle" because for many of them, having members of the Irish parliament taking an oath of allegiance to the British Crown was unfathomable. However, the pro-Treaty side argued that an Irish Free State with the same Dominion status that British Canada had at that time was the only thing that could have been negotiated with the British, that the anti-Treaty side knew this very well right from the start and that the Treaty was merely a "stepping stone" to achieving independence. Arguably, the pro-Treaty side would be vindicated because the 26-counties that formed the Irish Free State did achieve full sovereignty by the time a new constitution in 1937 replaced the one ratified under the Treaty in 1922 and Ireland left the British Commonwealth after declaring itself a republic in 1949. The partition question was never truly resolved until the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 when both sides finally and firmly agreed that only the people of N. Ireland could decide if they wanted to stay in the UK or join a united Ireland.
The IRA did not want ireland to be split, or under any type of foriegn rule.
Foreign rule? The people of Northern Ireland are British citizens so how can it be foreign rule??
@@noodlyappendage6729 British citizens descended from Scottish settlers who had been brought in to replace Irish inhabitants in an earlier rebellion (hence the term "Scotch-Irish..." though considering scotch is an alcoholic beverage, we may as well have gone all the way and said "Scotch-Whiskey").
Lest you think I'm some raving Irish Republican, I'm American with blood going back to all the British Isles and Germany (but I repeat myself). Still, as a student of history, it seems reductionist to act like Northern Irish citizenship took away from the issues of sovereignty most people throughout the island had when considering they were dealing with an empire that they had repeatedly tried to break away from for several centuries up to that point (not sure how accurate the 700 year line is, though, as it seems a lot of the independence fervor came post-Cromwell, but I could be wrong).
@@morgant.dulaman8733 British citizens in Northern Ireland descend from English, Irish, Welsh and Scottish people. Irish people also make up a portion of Northern Ireland. NI is made up of mostly Scottish, English and Irish descendents. There is no such a thing as NI citizenship. We are UK citizens. Not English citizens.
Foking britts!
Of course, we saw how useless that war turned out.
+MrMapperIL The Irish got screwed over by the Engish, unsuprisingly. The Irish Free State was meant to remain independent from the UK.
Die Wehrmacht But also become a commonwealth member. Which they are not.
Give Ireland back to the UK.
And we'll give you 800 more years of war
They can be independent if they want to
cameron burke we never fought the british for 800 years, the British only owned irelabd for about 400 years
longshot 246886 they landed in 1169 and were in and out of the country until the planations. They stayed in the Pale for those early years and we often fought them sporadically, then the plantations came and we started to fight constantly. After the act of Union in 1801 the situation kind of calmed down but riots were common and evictions resulted in violence. Then the war of independance came along. After that came the troubles but it wasn't as such Ireland that fought more so Irish people.
What if we give you back to the Holy Roman Empire (Germany)? Ireland belongs to the Irish people.
#GIVENOTHERNIRELANDBACK
Michael Bousaleh They voted to remain apart of the UK what part do you not understand ?
It's just like how West Virginia voted to be part of the union and not the confederacy which is why it exists
Learn to spell, also, NI was never a part of Ireland
*Never a part of the Republic of Ireland
Good job. Music?
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