My Week with the 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- I spend a week with the manual transmission 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing to see what it's like to live with. After lapping it on the racetrack last year and getting a great first impression with it, spending more time with it this week highlighted more of the pros and cons of this sport sedan. Overall though, it's an absolute blast to drive and while it might not get as much love as a BMW M3 from the masses, it's the underdog, the unique choice that stands out simply because you won't see one everyday. And for that alone, I think the CT4-V Blackwing will have lasting appeal beyond it's great driving dynamics. What do you think about these? Thanks to Cadillac for providing this vehicle!
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I've owned my '22 CT4-V Blackwing for about three months now. I cross-shopped it with the M3, and wound up going with the Blackwing when I found a lightly used one with 1800 miles. It's got over 4500 miles on it now, and I don't regret the choice one bit. I've never owned a car that's just happy to be doing whatever I'm doing. Yeah it can do 180+ mph, but it's just as fun on a backroad below 60 mph. That's what GM's chassis engineers get that BMW's don't: these cars shouldn't be about the lap times, they should be about the driver. That's why you should get a Blackwing over an M3.
I like this comment, def a beautiful whip 👌🏿🔥
Nah m3 got a lot more heritage to its nameplate. That’s all it matters
Very well said
@@G0ddEityawesome Yea, but we also shouldn't reward bad behavior when the brands lose their way regarding driver first and luxury second. The only BMWs that seem to still be for drivers are all CS or Comp Cars that are out of reach for the everyday man. I get it. BMW still has more prestige, but for driving enthusiasts I would hope the drive means more than the badge.
This comment sounds like you regret not getting an M3. You mentioned having fun on the backroads below 60 mph while driving a GM product; sounds oxymoron.
Picked mine up in Infared red and same interior. Over 5k miles on it already. Every journey is made better by rowing my own gears! I love it!
That's awesome, congrats on getting one!
I love my CT4 BW. I've put 7k miles on mine. I average 17mpg which is fair. Ma old sti averaged about that. Did the stage 1 tune with the JB4 from tapout tuning, picked up a ton. Made 490whp for you guys that want a bit more power. It was cheap and easy power. And I've now spent good time with the car, and spent time with the M3 Competition, the CT5 BW, the RS3, and the C45 AMG,. I have to say. The CT4 BW imo hits the mark better than all of these. The only gripe I have is stereo. Sound quality is great, just no bass. But it's chassis feels better than all of them. It's more engaging to drive than all of them. The similarly equipped M3 comp was almost $20k more and honestly, didn't care for it. Felt numb to drive and the manual was unacceptable imo. The CT5 is the only other one I really enjoyed but, I still have more fun in the 4. The 5 is cool and makes V8 noises. But it's a lot for.the street and it's big, and feels big. The 4 feels like you're driving a small sports car that happens to have useable backseats and trunk. The smaller euro cars imo, felt cheap in comparison and no manual.
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How's the stage 1 JB4 treating you now? Did you do the cold plugs? & did you do custom tuning or using one of their off the shelf maps??
@@MrLF4 I went to tapping and had the jb4 and tune done. They did some custom mapping, they used my car for initial development. I did the brisk racing silvers, a colder plug, and we did tapouts carbon airbox. My car made 515whp. It was a nice cool day so optimal for boosted Dyno runs. But the car feels fantastic. It's exactly what I feel it should have been.
@Charles Gutscher nice nice! Im only at 200 miles on mine, so I don't even know what the full redline feels like. But im sure I'll want a little more. It's just too far for me to go in person, so I'm considering if the off the shelf tunes are worth it.
Have you visited the dealership since then and did they know you had the jb4 installed
Blackwing is the coolest name ever.
I really appreciate the rear facing car seat test! Super helpful for new parents.
This car is absolutely awesome. I wish I had the bank for one, and where I live, I think it would garner more street cred, due to being wayyyy less common (everyone here has a leased Euro car).
I love the fact that Cadillac built cars for car people...they have built what their customers actually want, as a farewell to their ICE performance vehicles (though I think they, and other OEM's are going to back-pedal on their plans to go EV only, in the not so distant future).
Another great, honest, non-biased video, and I appreciate you mention both the pros and cons of the car, as well as the pros and cons of the vehicles that would be cross-shopped with it. At the end of the day, anything to do with your senses is purely subjective, and I agree with the general notion you bring up, that people should buy and drive what they want, without getting caught up in specs, and/or what everyone else is driving (hence why I daily drive a Focus ST instead of a GTI or WRX)...
Thanks Ian, I’m glad you liked the video!
Cadillac doing all the right things with this model. Never thought I'd see a G meter in a Caddy but here we are.
So happy they make this thing 😍👌🏼 I’m just not too sure about $70-80k price tag
You should price out an Audi RS3. Close to $100 closely as specd
@@lions208436 Nuts 😮💨
@@lions208436 with dealer mark up you're probably right, but excluding that you're looking at about 75k usd.
@@jongib6096 It's not just these cars. Did you see the starting price for the new F-series superduty with top trim? 100k
My 6mt came with the essentials for $62k. Sub $65k is the value sweet spot for this car.
Love my Blaze Orange 6mt. Best bang for the buck vehicle on the market.
Another solid and honest review. Thank you for your dedication and efforts to bringing us awesome content.
Thanks for watching Eddie!
Here in Europe it is also a Unicorn. Still waiting to see one in real life out in the wild. - I really like the looks inside and out.
I like the spec on that press car in terms of the exterior and interior color and options included. From your video it sounds like there is quite a bit of road noise and tire roar but that's probably the tradeoff for the performance potential.
Road noise is primarily because of the rough roads I’m on for much of this video. On good roads it’s relatively quiet for what it is.
Test drove this two weeks ago. Already have the CT4 Sport trim. Seriously considering it but my draw back is to have this also as my daily. We shall see. Great review. CT5 BW is amazing but a little out of my price tag.
If you can live with the fuel economy, there's really no drawbacks to a Blackwing as a daily. I daily my CT4-V Blackwing.
This is the MT sedan I want to sit next to my Miata.
I want one of these so bad! I would definitely need the manual, especially with it being compared with stuff like the RS3. Plus you don't get quite the annoying jealousy factor from other people like you do with an Audi or a BMW.
Well done Matt. This looks like a very fun car! I would say it looks better than the M3.
Took the auto version on a lengthy test drive a few days ago, still drives like the ATS V in my opinion, which is not a bad thing, just a bit more refined and better interior than the prior Cadillac. Also, a livable back seat.
Are you saying the CT4 BW backseat is more spacious than the ATS-V?
@@jeremyjune7002 I'm 5/8 and I had a little more room than my 2016 ATS.
Does the auto shift fast when in manual mode?
@@daboxer181 could have just been me, but it shifted faster when I let the car shift itself
@@lions208436 it's you lol . As long as it doesn't feel laggy. I want the auto due to heavy traffic in my city I just want to make sure it's a snappy shifting auto. Most ppl say it's fast. As good as a zf8 transmission
I actually like this more than the ct5-v blackwing, I just wish this thing was offered in a coupe too.
Awesome review Matt, I love this car and the big boy, the CT5-V Blackwing,, which are both on my wishlist.
Thanks! They’re on my wishlist too!
The most underrated car on the market. This and the Cadillac C5 are so underrated. I love them. Do you prefer this to the CT5? CT5 looks better but I think this probably drives much better.
That Cadillac looks badass and the ride looks so smooth. You should try out the CT5-V Blackwing soon.
Love the exterior/interior color combination. Think I like the RS3 a little more.
Thanks for another great review matt
Great review! I really need to drive one of these soon. They seem like a fun daily
Thanks man!
@@MattMaranMotoring see you at the LA AutoShow soon 😎
Have been eyeing the new Blackwing with 6-speed for days now. After realizing I may not be able to afford the CT5 V Blackwing, I am looking into this now. It's either the 23' CT4V V vs the 23' Supra.
Sounds good and appreciate your review. Keep it up
Thanks for watching!
I have the new rs3 8y and I love it ,it's my first audi and always wanted a cts v .they're isn't many around to test or compare it too but sure would like to see a Tru comparison ct4v blackwing vs new rs3
RS3 is a great car. I had a 2018 and loved it.
Matt I love your reviews, I would really like to hear your take on the G80 M3 6spd manual
Another great review Matt. Personally I think the CT5 looks better with Cadillac's current design language.
think these cars are going to hold value extremely well once productions stops and everyone realizes this is one of the last true drivers cars
Awesome review! I'm shopping right now between the RS3 and the Blackwing and can't make up my mind between the two. Mind if I ask if you had to pick one as your daily (and pretending you didn't have a kid), which one would you choose for 65K?
If both are auto, the RS3, which also has the great sounding 5 cylinder. If manual, the CT4-V.
Drive them both. Also where ydo you live? Do you have a need for AWD? Ct4 seems to be a bit more engaging based on reviews, if that matters.
Let's ignore the extra doors would you choose this or a M240i if you had to make that choice? I'm really torn on what my next fun car will be. I've always wanted an M2 comp but I'll save the 10 grand and get a slightly used M240i (newest version) over that but I really love the look and size of the CT4. Thanks and great review as always.
Unfortunately I haven't driven the current-gen M240i so I can't help with that comparison. I will say the BMW will likely have the better automatic, but the manual in the CT4 is pretty unique.
Own it, rent it or race it?
•CT4-V Blackwing
•Audi RS3
•BMW M3
Honorable Mention goes to the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio.
IDK if we should consider the Alfa as another contender in this category. What do you think Matt?
I am personally glad to see that Cadillac has addressed this interior. Previous generations felt like you were sitting in the lobby of a Cadillac dealership. Both are/were miserable places to behold.
Now if this CT4 had a V8, then I would consider it given the posh(er) interior versus the ZL1 6M. Yes I am aware that the CT5 exists but that model is simply not on our radar. I miss having a V8 _and_ a manual transmission.
However, as of lately my wife and I have been eyeing the C8 Corvette w/ Z51 package. Unfortunately, she thinks the passenger side of the C8 leaves her feeling rather isolated. We still have plenty of research to perform before we make a final conclusion.
Great review nonetheless.
Stay classy my friend.
Still say the CT5 v “sport” should have this motor
Matt, great video. You should drive the Alfa Romeo Giulia QV. No manual, but incredible performance from a RWD sedan in the same segment.
Thanks! I’ve been wanting to review one for years! Even the regular Giulia is amazing!
Thx Matt another great review.
Thanks for watching!
Another awesome review!
Thanks!
awesome video!
Matt, please take note of the percentage of content from overseas, China. It's over 20%. I'm ONLY GUESSING where the highly detailed dashboard may be sourced from.
There are not too many cars out there with the manual transmissions, but are still not dead yet.
Ok, so I just purchased a 23'CT4 BW... ive watched just about EVERY youtube video review. Within one day, i can identify a few things NOBODY has covered yet, the negatives. 1) the glare from the front dash and rear into the windshield glass is obnoxious. 2) while using the wireless charging pad, its extremely difficult to reach in and grab it out with the shifter in the way, the pad is too short height-wise. 3) too many buttons for drive modes and traction mode, lose track of which mode youre in then trying to get back to "normal" mode is distracting while trying to keep driving.
Hey Matt. Just curious, how does the sound system in this Cadillac compare to the Acura ELS sound system? I know the cars don’t really compare in anything else but was wondering about sound systems.
The ELS systems in all the new Acuras sound better than this stereo does, in my opinion. The roof speakers really help I think.
How does it compare to a modded sti?
blows my mind how cars like these dont come standard with heated and cooled seats in 2023 at these prices, trucks 7 years ago came with them in like the mid trims what changed
What about the quadrifolio?
No manual option in the U.S. but it still is a competitor I probably should have mentioned.
Since both neither Motor trend or Car and Driver were able to keep the QF on the road for more than a week with mechanical issues, it's kind of a moot point.
Which handles better and has better steering feel on the back roads- the CT4 V Blackwing or the 4 cylinder Giulia?
Definitely the Blackwing.
Giulia QV is also RWD.
You know you know you know you know you know. You know?
Thanks Matt. Pricing aside, does the CT4 scratch the itch for someone looking at more traditional muscle/sports cars like the Mustang, Camaro, etc?
James I traded in my ZL1 1LE for one and I haven’t regretted it one bit.
@@leea4624 I'm interested in both. Could your tell me why you traded in ZLE for ct4? Was it practicality reasons? Thx!
@@retrograde11 it was. I have 2 little ones and 4 doors seemed more practical while still having really good performance. But, I’m a manual guy at heart and I wanted to go back to one. So my CT4V is for sale and I’m in a regular ZL1 now which is amazing. It rides like a dream and all the power you need. Plus I have a daily now (2000 Isuzu Rodeo) which is primarily used when I’m taking the kiddos places. Both cars are amazing, you just have to know what you really want in a car.
@@leea4624 appreciate the info. Thanks!
@@retrograde11 anytime sir.
Cadillac need this and the CT5 version, but the pricing is off. Audi RS3 can be had for less and is a beast on the track. The infotainment screen needs to be larger. Otherwise, well done Cadillac.
RS3 is cool but def not same league of chassis. These are forsure way faster around a track
No manual available for the RS3. Game over.
Rs3 starts at $60k, same as my '22 BlackWing. The RS3s lack of a manual is a deal breaker. It's a MQB car, same as a golf platform but will try a really cool engine- laid out transversely like a fwd car. The BlackWing doesn't really share much except the Alpha which traces to the Camaro, an amazing car you can't see out of. Problem fixed with the BW.
Pricing…Caddy well over 80k with options…making it 20k+ for those options. I’d take a base Corvette for that coin. Tranny…I have no issues with rowing your own, but the autos are quicker and can shift in the blink of an eye…I’ll be lazy and let the computer do the job. Audi has the Quattro so that’s a bonus, plus the torque vectoring rear diff. Topped out Audi will cost low 70’s. I’ll save the 10k+ with the RS3 and have money left over for insurance, tires, and gasoline.
@@pokerfred68 $8k in options is carbon fiber. The $61k BlackWing has everything standard to go fast. None of the options make the car faster, it's all cake decoration. Let's also not forget the two day driving school worth $4k built into the BlackWings price for free.
Lucky you.
The ultimate rattle machine in all American cars.
This car is practically impossible to find in Canada, because USA buyers snatch it up.
cool car
I do not think this car is known - its a damn shame too. Maybe it looks to plain on the outside for most. 60k is steep for most people but any performance car is very near that now. Your type R Type S Golf R and even the higher trim GR Corolla is closing in on that with mark ups. So you sit there and really got to scratch your head wondering what the hell you are getting for your money with those vs the CT4BW - worse interior, non power pass seat, less options, FWD bias vs RWD, 450+ HP vs 310ish HP, over 100+ TQ vs others.. Oh and right now Cadillac is offering 3k off and 3.9 APR on new models. The only thing Cadillac did wrong is the marketing sucked as I never seen this one most channels. Markups still in effect for the other models mentioned - they are not for the CT4.
Matt - this CT4V Blackwing or the base M3 manual?
I discuss towards the end of the video. Blackwing for me.
@@MattMaranMotoring cool...I've always had a thing for GM's Alpha platform, but have never pulled the trigger. I have no doubt the Blackwing is a better car dynamically, but I prefer the larger packaging of the M3 and honestly I like the new widescreen iDrive 8 (though Cadillac is rumored to be doing the same thing for their '24 models...widescreen like Escalade & Lyriq).
Bet you had a blast 😂
If people want fuel economy; get a toyota Corolla. Now if you want fun, performance,and a track car...you gotta expect 16 MPG
It's a shame I feel like can't trust GM reliability, because there's some models of Cadillac out that I would really love to give a shot.
I have owned and own BMW Ms and CTS-V (V3) and CT5-V Blackwing. Something random and minor might happen to the GM car but it's rarely the powertrain long-term. Can't say the same of my experience with high-output German cars - particularly after the warranty expires. The Germans make a better luxury car and Cadillac makes a better performance/track car in my experience. Long-term reliability may not be guaranteed with GM but it's unquestionably better than the Germans (and a LOT cheaper to fix when there is an issue.)
GM has a very good rep for reliability now. The dark ages of GM are well behind them. As Russell mentioned better than the Germans and much lower to fix if you do need it.
The 3.6tt v6 has been fairly reliable when it comes to their turbocharged engine. Hell probably more reliable than their v8's with the DFM or AFM.
This car or the new M3 manual, Matt?
I discuss in this video, Cadillac for me!
@@MattMaranMotoring I did notice he spoke mostly about the feeling It gave you when you drove it. Can’t blame you. However, the car is absolutely hideous. It’s a souped up old person’s car. When you look at the M3 from so many angles it is light years better. Especially that rear end section it looks so aggressive. Then you start adding things like the carbon package and it just blows the Cadillac out of the water visually.
@@MyWatchTherapy All subjective, you're one of the few people I've seen that praise the M3 styling haha. To each their own :)
@@MattMaranMotoring I totally appreciate what you have said. However, about 2 years ago after people stopped complaining about the new grill. I find in all the videos I have watched about the M3, as I have ordered a Isle of Man Green one, people have been super positive about the looks of the car and many have grown to like that front end especially with that very nice front slpitter. Also, I just didn't like the Cadillacs interior. It looks so cheap, out of a parts bin for GM. Either way they're both manuals and that's something we can totally agree on I'm sure.
M340i would be a better bang for the buck
Not really . Crazy to see if your gonna mod it the old ats v does 9s in the quarter with Boltons. First tune only ct4 is already deep 10s. Insane how fast these cars are
No manual and not at this level other than straight line. Look at VIR Lightning Lap times.
Rs3 or ct4v BW?
If you don’t need AWD, I’d go CT4.
I still think the CTS-V3 is better tho
I am thinking hard on selling my gt500 for this one
I sold my gt500 for this one
Definitely an easy choice against the M3 with those beaver teeth lol
A lot of road noise for a $70k+ luxury sedan…
I could be wrong, but I believe that’s up to tires. This thing has no right to be so expensive though
@@Cal-El If they're runflats, it definitely could be.
@@Cal-El you can always pony up another $10k+ for a more luxurious and less track capable German competitor instead.
@@rdollie1 Absolutely not. I’m sticking with reliable and extremely comfortable luxury that doesn’t break the bank, with enough power to have fun on the street: Lexus
Edit: The only German I’d spring for is Porsche or a BMW with the B58 in it, since it’s nearly bulletproof. But that’s a perfect world where I’m making more money than I am now lol
@@Cal-El if you're never going to the track and reliability is key, I agree Lexus is the way to go! Amongst the Germans, Porsche is head and toe above the rest in reliability (and unfortunately price.) BMW long-term reliability just isn't great and things cost way too much to fix (I still gave a S65 and a S63 and know they are ticking time bombs on my wallet.) B58 is reportedly better but its all relative...
Nice car, 👌 but noisy interior. 😏
Rough roads mostly, it’s not too noisy.
I was about to factory order a CT4V (non blackwing) but canceled when I found out GM pulled ads from Twitter because of Musk. I don't need companies forcing their politics down my throat. Going with the C43 AMG instead 👍.
Hard to believe someone with enough money to afford the car has such poor reading comprehension skills. GM like MANY companies has said it will PAUSE advertising to see which direction Twitter takes. Given Musk has already posted conspiracy crap about the Pelosis (I'm no fan), it appears GM was prudent. Musk has also moronically fired a lot of employees against the provisions of the WARN act (last week), begged fired employees to return (this week), and it's only Monday
I'd hold off putting money on this platform as well (not to mention i read this morning theyre seeing a 500% increase in some hate speech after Musk fired the people who manage efforts in this area.)
Politics had nothing to do with the decision. It was about Twitter being owned by a direct competitor. Not that it's going to matter, Twitter looks like it's going to be dead next week.
Thanks for letting me know. I approve of GM even more now.
Nice!
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