Thank you for addressing the water! My dad is a well driller and he’s seen people’s dreams and savings obliterated when they don’t get water. He likes to say that in well drilling you pay for the hole, the water is free. His number one tip is buy on a water option when people call, tip number 2 is always talk to the neighbors. It’s not sure fire but if all the neighbors have 600ft wells don’t expect a 100ft well. And if all the neighbors have water storage tanks always investigate!
Amanda W. --- Great tip. I want to add: water storage tanks are MANDATED in certain areas, due to past Fires, as well as providing a quick supply if a fire happens on your property. ((I'm talking about certain rural properties in San Diego, California. The owners of a property we rented for a few years explained that the 5,000 gallon water storage tank on the 5 acre sized property was not a 'nice touch' but a legal ordinance/ requirement.
You're giving me hope. Thank you. I still don't know if homesteading is what the Lord has planned for me. I like many of the ideas/ self- sufficiency options. As a single, again, 57yr peppy woman fighting old injuries and learning ways that help with pain physically, mobility I wonder. I must, must tune in to the Lord otherwise I'll bite off more than I can chew. Bloom where planted.... and shine His light. Rich blessings for you and your family.
One thing I would add is to check the zoning. The property may look like it is out "there", but there may be zoning restrictions you would not think about. Friends bought 10 acres with the hopes to homestead and found there was a restriction (HOA) on livestock. They had 10a. homestead and they could not have any livestock. Chickens were not allowed. They are stuck with 10a to MOW.
I second this. We found a property that we LOVED, it was zoned Agricultural (I checked the GIS report) and yet... it was part of an HOA! The sad thing was, no where was it listed as part of an HOA on the house listing. I only found out because I asked to see the well report and our realtor also sent over the HOA covenants with it. I was so disappointed because the house and the property had everything we were looking for.... we are grateful that we didn't go out to see it (we were going to see it the next day) because we were planning on making an offer on the spot. Make sure you double check with your realtor!! Otherwise we would have been so upset had we gone so far as to buy the property and find out we couldn't have chickens.
Yes. But the zoning can allow for agriculture in some form- some allow chickens but no goats, or horses but nothing else. HOA ( Home Owners Association ) is different from zoning- it’s subdivision or neighborhood specific and may not allow agriculture or be very specific.
My first rule *warning* for anyone - never, ever, never buy something where you have to pay another tax disguised as a Homeowner's Association fee and follow rules more draconian than New York State or California laws.
Great informative video as always. I would add, do not only get to know to neighbors, look them up. Most states have a judiciary case search database that is open to the public. Find out the names of those around you (by looking on the state real property database) and search for court records. You want to focus on assaults, drug possession, etc. My brother-in-law was going to buy a property and he looked up all the neighbors. Come to find out, one of the neighbors had sued and had run-ins with every one of the neighbors. So he decided not to buy the property.
Another huge consideration is having wetlands on your property. For me, it is a blessing, I bought a 40 acre property with a 20 year old home, very nice. Only about 4-5 acres are really usable and accessible, the rest is wetlands, but I don't plan on livestock or much more than a large garden (that's already there and fenced, yeah!). I think i will enjoy the wildlife that this property supports though. Anyway, if there are wetlands on your property, you have to check with county extension and corps of engineers if you want to convert into usable land.
In some states (Washington) there are buffer zones around wetlands and creeks or rivers. Even seasonal streams have 150 ft buffers that you can't build within. Knowing the water rules is crucial! Goes hand in hand with understanding the political climate of your state. Pursue FREEDOM.
Working on buying an acre of property in a couple of months. Been praying for it for years! Can't wait to see what the Lord has for us! Blessings on your family!
Hope you made your dream come true. I’m trying to start right now. I’ve been wanting this forever, but am pretty terrified because I need to learn so much! I’m also totally excited! This will be the most awesome & epic thing I’m doing in my life, beside having my sons, which nothing will ever beat! I’m praying so hard everyday for this dream to come to fruition. I’m watching videos, doing research and trying to learn all I can before I put any money down on land. Wish me the best of luck! 💜💕❤️🙏🌈💜💕❤️🙏🌈 Praying for blessings!
Love this video! So much great information, thank you! I met a family that fed 11 families on their ONE acre lot! They sold produce to farmers markets and on Craigslist too. They didn’t have a lot of grass, but it was a beautiful place! They proved that it doesn’t have to be a gigantic piece of land to grow lots of food. More land would be needed for large animals, but their chickens were doing great and helped fertilize the vast gardens.
We know of a town that many people moved to during the lockdowns, hoping to find good country-ish living just outside of a major city. What the people didn't know was the history of the location. Coal ash dump sites had been buried throughout. Unfortunately, the soil & water is in questionable condition. Seeing that taught us the importance to make sure we learned about the condition of the land, water and soil.
I'm going to add a 29th. Know the average weather patterns for the area your looking at for property. I lived in an area where the average wind gusts where to me horrible. It didn't matter what time of year it was we had a lot of high winds, some days I couldn't get my garden planted in time due to high winds. Having a simple light weight greenhouse wasn't a possibility in my area, you had to have a heavy duty greenhouse.
I did that panic buying because the prices were rising rapidly and every time I contacted an agent it was sold before I could schedule a viewing so when I saw a brand new listing that was just under 6 acres, older but not too old farmhouse, had wheelchair ramp and walkin tub for growing older, had 3 large outbuildings, underground storm shelter, and even a full house generator I called the realtor and made an offer without ever stepping on the property (it was 502 miles away). I knew there would be repairs but I underestimated. The ramp wasn't made to code which means which means replacing. When I got the well guy out to install a pressure tank I didn't realize there were additional water problems to take care of. It took one dumpster to empty the house which I anticipated but I didn't anticipate the 3 - 12X24 outbuildings being fully stacked full of old dilapidated furniture requiring 2 more dumpsters. The interior photos were taken to best sell the rooms which meant they didn't represent the actual house well. Such as the wood stove, the only heating source, is located right next to one of the back doors (there are 4 exterior doors to the house). Or even that the owner had an obsessive amount of cats who had urinated freely the last few years they had been there which had gone through the spaces in flooring and soaked into subflooring and on and on. Every time I needed to go to Lowe's it was a 35 minute ride to get off the mountain including some switchbacks. And I realized too late that there weren't that many tradesmen who were willing to come to my location. If I would have been smart I would have found a place to rent to live in relatively close so I could work on it more but since I was underestimating the problems I was also underestimating the time involved for repairs (9 hour drive from my home) thinking I could just come down for 3 or 4 long weekends to get the basic fixed so I could move in staying in a cheap motel. My focus was so much on trying to do repairs that were taking probably ten times the amount of time I had allocated that by the time that thought occurred I had already spent thousands on motel. Plus one thing I hadn't counted on was the size. I knew from the pics it was 2 story, but I thought when they said it was 1900 if they were talking about the whole house and that while I had been looking to downsize from my then current 1800 so I rationalized there was never too much storage space and there were zero pics of unfinished spaces. The entire upper floor is unfinished beyond framing and they didn't count that floor in the sf. Great if I was a young couple getting ready to start a family but I am a single newly retired senior. Definitely listen and follow the advice of this couple about not rushing. It is important for your time, money and stress levels.
This video couldn't have come at a better time. Headed out to view properties in rural Saskatchewan on Wednesday. My life long dream is finally coming to light. Really happy that I've considered everything on your list and there were no surprises, looks like I've done my research.
@@Zoe-sj7of I made 8k last year and barely 4x that with corona (dropping my commute to university, doing prep while babysitting for a nurse), I can't commit to anything... My parents however, having paid of their house and living below one of their incomes without children depending on them for much are looking to invest into concrete and expect to approach their value requirements after the defaulting/restructuring went downstream.
It all depends on your area and your current situation. We're paying 3x as much for rent then we would a monthly mortgage. We've also chosen to move to a location that is already really cheap. For us, waiting wouldn't be worth it. You also never know what will cause price fluctuations. Only you know the best time for you to move.
@@ScarySock very exciting! Good luck to you, I hope it all goes great for you :) it's such hard work but it's so rewarding and can be very fun! Enjoy the next lifestyle!
This is one of the most pragmatic and useful videos anyone has ever done. Thank you. -Out here in Ohio mineral rights are also a huge factor. They can be sold off many titles ago and people miss those details. Thank you again!
Person who bought my grandparents farm ended up reselling it MINUS the mineral rights. There was talk of possible oil/gas under the land and this neighbor wanted to have the surrounding rights incase it turned out to be true. Not sure how they can get reobtained.
We just sold our home and are looking for homestead property out of state! Thank you so much for this awesome information! We promise to be good homesteaders.
Thank you for this. So many UA-camrs glamorize this lifestyle. I'm glad you are bringing it back to reality. We are renting an 1870's farm house that is beautiful!..but just our kerosene heating bill has been $1400 a month all winter. Sooo painful (especially when we are paying $2500 a month rent, and that's considered a steal in this area!) We love the place, but spending this much monthly makes us want to rush to find our own place. We've been looking at beautiful places in West Virginia and boy did this talk set me straight. There is so much more research we need to do. Thank you for being upfront!
Everything you have discussed is the whole reason we are going to wait 3-5 years to move onto a property in the country. People panic buying now are not only driving up the costs of these types of property but when they realize they are in over their heads, some of these properties will be back on the market again soon. Stuff is 'flying off the shelves' right now with rural properties.
Just curious to see if you ended up pulling the trigger? I would have loved to have land 4 years ago before the price skyrocketed… at least where I am it did.
I love that you have sheep! Have you ever tried separating the iceladic wool? The tog (outer hairs) and the thel (soft undercoat) can be seperated manually and processed for dinnerent purposes. Loving your channel! So practical and positive, the sheep and wool was icing on the cake for me :-) I'm a wool lover in Maine
Love you two! We bought 95 acres with a kilometer of ocean front on a very remote island, Galiano Island in British Columbia Canada, and we are currently living in an RV until we can get permits to build a house. We are surrounded by the most beautiful park. We are planning our dream house, with horse barn and garden etc. and I really love listening to all your recommendations, they are so inspiring, and I am so looking forward to developing this most amazing property with your inspirations. Big HUGS to you both, love you!
The Icelandic sheep have the softest wool, but you have to hand treat it. When sending it to a mill, they will spin everything together. But if you first take the time to separate the outer and inner wool, you will both get better wool for jackets/thick sweaters, and the incredibly soft inner wool for baby garments etc.
Found a nice piece of property with an old double wide trailer on it. Used the trailer while we built our house then sold it. Septic, water and electricity was already available for the new house.
we had 1/4 acre where we jad animals and garden. enough food to give away. on ONE ACRE now and PLENTY of room to grow for our family and extended family. yes I'd love more but this works
We bought raw land, 2 parcels after selling our home in town, got a deal on the price and drilled a well before closing, installed driveway, power and septic in the first couple of months. Sold one parcel for more than we bought both for, paid off the other parcel we are building on and pocketed the profits. Currently we are building and planting out fruit & nut trees, several different berry bushes and vining crops. Herbal patches are going in soon. One thing I learned is before you can build you need water, did not know that at the time but we drilled before closing on the property. Trying to remain debt free with everything, taxes do go up after the county sees progress / infrastructure. We started this 2 years ago and had looked for over a year at a lot of different properties, looking ever weekend at 7+ per day, we did not use a retaliator except when we wanted to make an offer on our property we have now, we talked directly with the selling agent for the seller. Do your homework! Great video and tips/information.
Hey good to see y'all again ! I don't need to buy homestead property but great information for newbies! Your videos are always so packed full of great info!
When we lived to our 8 acres 16 years ago I wasn’t sure if I would like it as I was raised in a small town neighborhood... everything you said was great advice to those looking to get started !!! We’ve experienced some of the draw backs you discussed but we managed to over done them and continue on this journey ... I really enjoy y’all’s advice and talks
Thank you for covering this topic. Love you guys and appreciate all your hard work to bring us the wealth of information and processes that make a homestead productive and successful.
I just found your channel, and already I love you guys. Such a beautiful family! Thank you for sharing this information. I’m Russian born, but have been living in Jacksonville Florida since age 13... In Russia growing up my family had a few plots of land, which we utilised for food growing. We also kept some chickens on one of our properties. Since moving to US Florida, we no longer grow food, or keep chickens. Jacksonville Florida is way too hot, and humid for growing most things. It’s really sad, because I so miss being surrounded by wild, organic, untamed nature untouched by human hand. I dream of buying land far away from civilisation, and living a self-sufficient life. I didn’t know that people are looking to buy 100 acres. That is such a colossal amount of land. For me 5 -7 acres is more than enough
Florida is too hot and humid for growing most things? Tell that to David the Good, author of Create Your Own Florida Food Forest, whose work is shown here on yt. He will get a good laugh knowing that he's done the impossible 🤣
@@TheRealHonestInquiry I am happy to hear that I’m wrong about this. More than anyone I want to be able to grow food in Florida. I’m definitely not an expert on this at all, and I was only speaking from personal experience. I was only talking about my own experience with experimenting with growing food in Jacksonville Florida where I live. Maybe I haven’t had much success because I did it wrong. Maybe it was due to the fact that I didn’t want to involve any artificial synthetic chemicals, fertilizers, pesticides, etc.
@@YeshuaKingMessiah Florida has a HUGE agricultural component...maybe do a simple google search before making such sweeping incorrect statements. Oranges, lemons, grapefruit, strawberries, lettuce & cabbage of all kinds, carrots, peanuts, just to name a few off the top of my head.
Man I don’t think we followed any of these😂 20 acres of raw national forest land, middle of the mountains. But we did think through and make plans for everything and are chugging away. One year in and our cabin is done, chickens are happy, earth sheltered green house being built, barn foundation getting prepped, temporary enclosures for our soon to be cow all finished. Lots of work ahead but it’s doable! We are currently fully on solar but should have power before winter, and we had a well Witcher come out and our well will be drilled soon. We had the blessing of our old home being sold so we could be financially prepared for those big expenses. I have been really enjoying your videos!
I just finished the great grandma video and I’m happy to hear she’s now living with you helping with the green beans, I’m sure she’s out weeding as well, what a wealth of knowledge 🙏❤️ and I just heard you say you’re in n Idaho, we are too and just bought some mountain property that The Lord just dropped in our laps, and I feel even stronger that I was led to your channel! We’re just getting started but I’m already learning so much from you guys! Thank You for sharing your skills and knowledge with all of us 🙏❤️🙏 I’d love to see a lamb recipe, I’ve never cooked it myself and I’m a little scared to try though I think we’d like it!
Best in class! For your butter! Way to go Brianna! I love all of this great information. I am learning so much about preserving and gardening. Plus so much more! I really enjoy your presentation style! Thank you!
Out east soil does matter. Some of the coal mines and strip mining have poisoned or caused irreparable damage to the soil. In the case of strip mining you could move top soil in but the cost would be prohibitive on a large piece of land.
Carolyn: Have you thought about purchasing a commercial cooler unit for your refrigerator? They are essentially just big refrigerator with no freezer attached. You should look at some of the restaurant supply companies in your area. You may even be able to get a good deal on a unit from a business that didn't stay in business for very long. There are several restaurant supply companies online who will deliver to the nearest large city or a business like the one where you picked up your bulk purchases. I hope you find this helpful.
We were currently offered a steal on a house and property, we weren’t looking but it was a family member wanting to keep the house in the family. A home built in 1900 with 4 acres. This video was super helpful in what we are looking at. My husband is well acquainted with the property but I am not. It’s going to be a journey I think! Thankfully we won’t be in a hurry to move right in considering the property is just down the road to our current homestead
Have to tell you...love the talks. I used to raise sheep, primarily Dorsets who are great moms even for triplets, and their fibre is awesome. I own a Fiber Mill in Ontario (Wool4Ewe Fiber Mill) and batts (for quilts etc) are great for farm-gate sales as well as rovings for needle felters. When I heard Gotland sheep...wow amazing locks..huge market.
If buying a large property and wanting to divide in into zones of slowly working your property be sure to know what the ordinances are in having unused land that is allowed to grow naturally. Some areas have it where all under brush must be cleared out. My mother and stepfather had that issue on a piece of property 25 years ago. I am almost 60. What holds true then also holds true now. Zoning laws and ordinances need to be clear to you before buying. Also property taxes and when it was last paid. Third but definitely not least to make sure the seller is the true owner. There are too many scamming con-artists putting ads on property they do not own but rent to sell in out of state newspapers and for sale by owner websites that are not checked by the website master on the true ownership of a property.
Access is very important. We shared a driveway with my wife's uncle and everything was fine for 10 years until he decided to sell it to someone from out of state. We have had trouble with them from day one.
Thank you for this info.. I have 1 suggestion for those who are looking for property. I live on the Gulf Coast and river areas. We have what is called flood plan areas. In order to purchase property or build we have to know this. Insurance is one purpose but the other is we have seen some sell land and chop it up as if it can be lived on as normal like a subdivision. It can't be. There is septic issues as well as homes flooding. Which calls for a whole different way of living. Different septic and build up on pears. This can be learned at the county emergency management office in that county. We had a land owner who was sued and spent a lot of money because he miss represented the property or was so careless. This factor had never occured in our area until this happened. A lot of home owners suffered greatly because of this as well. The more moving into areas that has never been settled or used strictly for timber or hunting large tracks which this was. With all the new development also change water flow as well.
Caroline I love your hair. It is so healthy looking. We are new to homesteading and you two are amazing teachers. I am more comfortable canning and trying new things. Making my own convenience foods, tinctures, scratch cooking and I am enjoying the slower pace of life. We live on four acres that has been passed down through 4 generations. Big hill of family all around us. We have turned our entire property into a garden. Crazy how it all happened but we love it.
For multi purpose sheep breeds with more focus on meat, I suggest one of the down breeds, such as Southdown. (Not sure about specifics in your area) they are nice and big and bred for wool and meat
You all are living my life!! Haha. My desire has always been to have my own homestead and well, stuff happens and I haven't realized that dream. I will soon!. God-willing!. In the meantime, I watch your videos with eagerness! Thanks for sharing!
Wonderful video(s), Thanks from Canada! Lots of us more or less can’t stand wool on our skin, but I have had beautiful Icelandic woollen coats, jackets, etc. lined with a slippery fabric that makes them wearable.
when we bought our property and for our first 20 years we had no water problem with our water (well). Then our immediate area had a lot of building. We now have 2 wells and still water issues in the summer if we don't have enough rain.
I am a Fiber artist. I love the whole process with wool. Icelandic sheep!! The best for felting. I buy it from Lavender Farm. I will look it up and repost if you are interested. I did classes using their wool for slippers. Felting in fun and easy!
Perfect 👍🏼 Ad I’m 67 and looking for some homestead property as I’m not in need of more than 10 acres. God bless and thank you FYI; I’m California there has been over 800k people leaving to a better life
The fencing comment reminded me that I believe it’s crucial to know of the state you move to is a fence on or fence out state. That’s just my opinion so I don’t know if it really is.
Great info! We own the house we are living in right now in the city. We want to buy raw land and work it and build a smaller house than we have now. We are not in a major rush to do that I have been looking at land and we just want 5-7 acres. I dont think we will be doing any animals other than chickens, and of course a garden.
Some good points. People think that you have to buy a huge piece of land to be able to grow a garden or raise some animals but you really don't. You could buy 100 acres and only a only a small portion is actually good to use for anything. We have a ten acre property that was part of an original homestead and we have more than enough good usable land to have a two huge gardens and room for chickens and we could in future have some livestock, maybe a couple of cows or some sheep or goats.
Hahaha i been trying to move out of NY for years and I'm finally moving to a really Red state deep Red and My ten acers is all woods and 51 inches of rain a year and is a 7.2 out of a ten in wether. I'm going to be living in a tent and building a home sted from scratch that is the whole idea of it. And yes I made shour it has no restrictions and legal access.
Where I live, the only way to buy accessible land that's within my means is if it's raw land. Everything else has surged into the stratosphere as far as affordability goes. Ironically having a home(even one with problems) makes it a bit more affordable atm only cause you can take a longer mortgage out.
Id like to do this in S America, chicks, wine, honey, raw milk, not into veggies, but would consider grass and maybe dandelions, grapes of course for wine.
First year raising Kahatadin sheep. We loved them. It's very hot here and they did great. Also they did great with a natural dewormer. Yes, the right breed is key.
I'm in Victoria Australia and we love sheep, in fact here in Australia Lamb is one of our favorite meats on the market, i did raise Merino x Suffolk we loved the wool although only good for art and wool and Dorper x wiltipoll as they don't require shearing but just fantastic meat and milk if you like sheep milk (we don't like the milk for us to drink but it comes in handy if we get a potty lamb we would keep 5ltrs in the freezer in case, the lambs seem to do much better if the 1st drink is sheep milk we found) , Lamb is best on the BBQ or crumbed lamb cutlets, roast lamb with rosemary and lamb stew.
Jars you can reuse many times but the lids are 1 time use, although you can now buy reusable lids too. You can buy on line, at grocery and farm supply stores. Look up BALL.
Thanks for answering my sheep questions. One follow up . Do they pay for themselves? Are they cost effective?
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FYI I have friends that raise their own sheep.. Farm raised sheep are easy. There healthy and the meat. Is awesome. They butcher once a year. And they never buy meat at the market. Some raise cattle some raise goats. And at butcher time. They barter. With church friends to have a meat variety. They barter pound for pound. It is a nice plan. They have. There not... Like city dwellers. City dwellers. Clearly. They have mental illness problems. As you can see on the news everyday. Also. Farm raised chickens produce better eggs and chicken meat raised on a farm is far better than factory raised chickens. ..hope this helps
Is a sloped pasture okay for four or so cows? I do not know the degree, but it’s maybe about 30. It is slopes toward the home, but there are swales. I’m wondering too where to learn about seeding it for grazing.
ua-cam.com/video/Bz3aJaKdEwo/v-deo.html is the relocating vid. Tip: Homesteading Family are always great about providing links to their past videos if they mention them in a current vid. As long as the vid you are watching is not finished, you can find linked vids in the right hand upper corner. You will find a small round, white&black exclamation mark and if you click that, it unfolds a list of linked videos. ❤️
I was thinking earlier, if you had a long road, build a cabin close to the road, live there, and develop your road later. You could even have a cabin that could be easily moved.
QUESTION - We are currently looking for land to buy, and we've been watching UA-cam, to start learning, but the ONE subject that nobody ever talks about, is this : How do you slaughter a sheep or other animal in a humane way, that is a quick deqth without the animal succering?
I actually have a question about your water glasses egg video. I thought I might have a better chance of you seeing it if I put it on a more current video. Lol. Anyway, what is the name brand of hydrated lime you purchased from Home Depot. I'm so worried about buying the wrong stuff! Thank you!
Thank you for addressing the water! My dad is a well driller and he’s seen people’s dreams and savings obliterated when they don’t get water. He likes to say that in well drilling you pay for the hole, the water is free. His number one tip is buy on a water option when people call, tip number 2 is always talk to the neighbors. It’s not sure fire but if all the neighbors have 600ft wells don’t expect a 100ft well. And if all the neighbors have water storage tanks always investigate!
Great info! Thank you.
Amanda W. --- Great tip.
I want to add: water storage tanks are MANDATED in certain areas, due to past Fires, as well as providing a quick supply if a fire happens on your property.
((I'm talking about certain rural properties in San Diego, California. The owners of a property we rented for a few years explained that the 5,000 gallon water storage tank on the 5 acre sized property was not a 'nice touch' but a legal ordinance/ requirement.
You're giving me hope. Thank you.
I still don't know if homesteading is what the Lord has planned for me. I like many of the ideas/ self- sufficiency options. As a single, again, 57yr peppy woman fighting old injuries and learning ways that help with pain physically, mobility I wonder.
I must, must tune in to the Lord otherwise I'll bite off more than I can chew. Bloom where planted.... and shine His light. Rich blessings for you and your family.
One thing I would add is to check the zoning. The property may look like it is out "there", but there may be zoning restrictions you would not think about. Friends bought 10 acres with the hopes to homestead and found there was a restriction (HOA) on livestock. They had 10a. homestead and they could not have any livestock. Chickens were not allowed. They are stuck with 10a to MOW.
I second this. We found a property that we LOVED, it was zoned Agricultural (I checked the GIS report) and yet... it was part of an HOA! The sad thing was, no where was it listed as part of an HOA on the house listing. I only found out because I asked to see the well report and our realtor also sent over the HOA covenants with it. I was so disappointed because the house and the property had everything we were looking for.... we are grateful that we didn't go out to see it (we were going to see it the next day) because we were planning on making an offer on the spot. Make sure you double check with your realtor!! Otherwise we would have been so upset had we gone so far as to buy the property and find out we couldn't have chickens.
Yes. But the zoning can allow for agriculture in some form- some allow chickens but no goats, or horses but nothing else.
HOA ( Home Owners Association ) is different from zoning- it’s subdivision or neighborhood specific and may not allow agriculture or be very specific.
My first rule *warning* for anyone - never, ever, never buy something where you have to pay another tax disguised as a Homeowner's Association fee and follow rules more draconian than New York State or California laws.
Turn it into an RV park for vacationers and get some income coming in, and put up a volleyball net on the grass 😁 what a disappointment for them
That is a sad situation. Sell it n move on
Great informative video as always. I would add, do not only get to know to neighbors, look them up. Most states have a judiciary case search database that is open to the public. Find out the names of those around you (by looking on the state real property database) and search for court records. You want to focus on assaults, drug possession, etc. My brother-in-law was going to buy a property and he looked up all the neighbors. Come to find out, one of the neighbors had sued and had run-ins with every one of the neighbors. So he decided not to buy the property.
Another huge consideration is having wetlands on your property. For me, it is a blessing, I bought a 40 acre property with a 20 year old home, very nice. Only about 4-5 acres are really usable and accessible, the rest is wetlands, but I don't plan on livestock or much more than a large garden (that's already there and fenced, yeah!). I think i will enjoy the wildlife that this property supports though. Anyway, if there are wetlands on your property, you have to check with county extension and corps of engineers if you want to convert into usable land.
In some states (Washington) there are buffer zones around wetlands and creeks or rivers. Even seasonal streams have 150 ft buffers that you can't build within. Knowing the water rules is crucial! Goes hand in hand with understanding the political climate of your state. Pursue FREEDOM.
Working on buying an acre of property in a couple of months. Been praying for it for years! Can't wait to see what the Lord has for us! Blessings on your family!
Hope you bought it and happy any back draws or caution for future buyers !
Hope you made your dream come true. I’m trying to start right now. I’ve been wanting this forever, but am pretty terrified because I need to learn so much! I’m also totally excited! This will be the most awesome & epic thing I’m doing in my life, beside having my sons, which nothing will ever beat! I’m praying so hard everyday for this dream to come to fruition. I’m watching videos, doing research and trying to learn all I can before I put any money down on land. Wish me the best of luck! 💜💕❤️🙏🌈💜💕❤️🙏🌈
Praying for blessings!
Love this video! So much great information, thank you!
I met a family that fed 11 families on their ONE acre lot! They sold produce to farmers markets and on Craigslist too. They didn’t have a lot of grass, but it was a beautiful place! They proved that it doesn’t have to be a gigantic piece of land to grow lots of food. More land would be needed for large animals, but their chickens were doing great and helped fertilize the vast gardens.
We know of a town that many people moved to during the lockdowns, hoping to find good country-ish living just outside of a major city. What the people didn't know was the history of the location. Coal ash dump sites had been buried throughout. Unfortunately, the soil & water is in questionable condition. Seeing that taught us the importance to make sure we learned about the condition of the land, water and soil.
Have the well water tested. Neighbors well water tested full of runoff from neighbors farm pesticides and fertilizer. Can't drink it.
I'm going to add a 29th. Know the average weather patterns for the area your looking at for property.
I lived in an area where the average wind gusts where to me horrible. It didn't matter what time of year it was we had a lot of high winds, some days I couldn't get my garden planted in time due to high winds. Having a simple light weight greenhouse wasn't a possibility in my area, you had to have a heavy duty greenhouse.
Good point. Also a huge factor when it comes to water, if you're catching and storing rainfall whether in tanks or the soil itself.
I did that panic buying because the prices were rising rapidly and every time I contacted an agent it was sold before I could schedule a viewing so when I saw a brand new listing that was just under 6 acres, older but not too old farmhouse, had wheelchair ramp and walkin tub for growing older, had 3 large outbuildings, underground storm shelter, and even a full house generator I called the realtor and made an offer without ever stepping on the property (it was 502 miles away).
I knew there would be repairs but I underestimated. The ramp wasn't made to code which means which means replacing. When I got the well guy out to install a pressure tank I didn't realize there were additional water problems to take care of. It took one dumpster to empty the house which I anticipated but I didn't anticipate the 3 - 12X24 outbuildings being fully stacked full of old dilapidated furniture requiring 2 more dumpsters. The interior photos were taken to best sell the rooms which meant they didn't represent the actual house well. Such as the wood stove, the only heating source, is located right next to one of the back doors (there are 4 exterior doors to the house). Or even that the owner had an obsessive amount of cats who had urinated freely the last few years they had been there which had gone through the spaces in flooring and soaked into subflooring and on and on.
Every time I needed to go to Lowe's it was a 35 minute ride to get off the mountain including some switchbacks. And I realized too late that there weren't that many tradesmen who were willing to come to my location.
If I would have been smart I would have found a place to rent to live in relatively close so I could work on it more but since I was underestimating the problems I was also underestimating the time involved for repairs (9 hour drive from my home) thinking I could just come down for 3 or 4 long weekends to get the basic fixed so I could move in staying in a cheap motel. My focus was so much on trying to do repairs that were taking probably ten times the amount of time I had allocated that by the time that thought occurred I had already spent thousands on motel.
Plus one thing I hadn't counted on was the size. I knew from the pics it was 2 story, but I thought when they said it was 1900 if they were talking about the whole house and that while I had been looking to downsize from my then current 1800 so I rationalized there was never too much storage space and there were zero pics of unfinished spaces. The entire upper floor is unfinished beyond framing and they didn't count that floor in the sf. Great if I was a young couple getting ready to start a family but I am a single newly retired senior.
Definitely listen and follow the advice of this couple about not rushing. It is important for your time, money and stress levels.
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. I wish you find someone who could make your life easier and better 😊
Wow! Y’all are on fire! Every video hits the topics that are so desperately needed! Thank you so much!
Glad you think so!
One of my fondest childhood memories are sitting w my grandparents and my siblings snapping green beans on a swing set.
This video couldn't have come at a better time. Headed out to view properties in rural Saskatchewan on Wednesday. My life long dream is finally coming to light. Really happy that I've considered everything on your list and there were no surprises, looks like I've done my research.
My mom said prices might very well drop in the next two years (look into 2010 over 2008), incase rental looks worth it.
@@fionafiona1146 Do you think its good to wait? Ive heard the same thing from some of my friends in Realestate.
@@Zoe-sj7of I made 8k last year and barely 4x that with corona (dropping my commute to university, doing prep while babysitting for a nurse), I can't commit to anything... My parents however, having paid of their house and living below one of their incomes without children depending on them for much are looking to invest into concrete and expect to approach their value requirements after the defaulting/restructuring went downstream.
It all depends on your area and your current situation. We're paying 3x as much for rent then we would a monthly mortgage. We've also chosen to move to a location that is already really cheap. For us, waiting wouldn't be worth it. You also never know what will cause price fluctuations. Only you know the best time for you to move.
@@ScarySock very exciting! Good luck to you, I hope it all goes great for you :) it's such hard work but it's so rewarding and can be very fun! Enjoy the next lifestyle!
This is one of the most pragmatic and useful videos anyone has ever done. Thank you.
-Out here in Ohio mineral rights are also a huge factor. They can be sold off many titles ago and people miss those details. Thank you again!
Thank you!
What does mineral rights mean?
Person who bought my grandparents farm ended up reselling it MINUS the mineral rights. There was talk of possible oil/gas under the land and this neighbor wanted to have the surrounding rights incase it turned out to be true. Not sure how they can get reobtained.
We just sold our home and are looking for homestead property out of state! Thank you so much for this awesome information! We promise to be good homesteaders.
Thank you for this. So many UA-camrs glamorize this lifestyle. I'm glad you are bringing it back to reality. We are renting an 1870's farm house that is beautiful!..but just our kerosene heating bill has been $1400 a month all winter. Sooo painful (especially when we are paying $2500 a month rent, and that's considered a steal in this area!) We love the place, but spending this much monthly makes us want to rush to find our own place. We've been looking at beautiful places in West Virginia and boy did this talk set me straight. There is so much more research we need to do. Thank you for being upfront!
You might like to check out earthships if you haven't already!
Can you do a wood fire?
Everything you have discussed is the whole reason we are going to wait 3-5 years to move onto a property in the country. People panic buying now are not only driving up the costs of these types of property but when they realize they are in over their heads, some of these properties will be back on the market again soon. Stuff is 'flying off the shelves' right now with rural properties.
Just curious to see if you ended up pulling the trigger? I would have loved to have land 4 years ago before the price skyrocketed… at least where I am it did.
This is so helpful. My husband and I are making steps to buy land in the next year. Thank you so much!
I love that you have sheep! Have you ever tried separating the iceladic wool? The tog (outer hairs) and the thel (soft undercoat) can be seperated manually and processed for dinnerent purposes. Loving your channel! So practical and positive, the sheep and wool was icing on the cake for me :-) I'm a wool lover in Maine
Love you two! We bought 95 acres with a kilometer of ocean front on a very remote island, Galiano Island in British Columbia Canada, and we are currently living in an RV until we can get permits to build a house. We are surrounded by the most beautiful park. We are planning our dream house, with horse barn and garden etc. and I really love listening to all your recommendations, they are so inspiring, and I am so looking forward to developing this most amazing property with your inspirations. Big HUGS to you both, love you!
The Icelandic sheep have the softest wool, but you have to hand treat it. When sending it to a mill, they will spin everything together. But if you first take the time to separate the outer and inner wool, you will both get better wool for jackets/thick sweaters, and the incredibly soft inner wool for baby garments etc.
Found a nice piece of property with an old double wide trailer on it. Used the trailer while we built our house then sold it. Septic, water and electricity was already available for the new house.
we had 1/4 acre where we jad animals and garden. enough food to give away. on ONE ACRE now and PLENTY of room to grow for our family and extended family. yes I'd love more but this works
We bought raw land, 2 parcels after selling our home in town, got a deal on the price and drilled a well before closing, installed driveway, power and septic in the first couple of months. Sold one parcel for more than we bought both for, paid off the other parcel we are building on and pocketed the profits. Currently we are building and planting out fruit & nut trees, several different berry bushes and vining crops. Herbal patches are going in soon. One thing I learned is before you can build you need water, did not know that at the time but we drilled before closing on the property. Trying to remain debt free with everything, taxes do go up after the county sees progress / infrastructure. We started this 2 years ago and had looked for over a year at a lot of different properties, looking ever weekend at 7+ per day, we did not use a retaliator except when we wanted to make an offer on our property we have now, we talked directly with the selling agent for the seller. Do your homework! Great video and tips/information.
Hey good to see y'all again ! I don't need to buy homestead property but great information for newbies! Your videos are always so packed full of great info!
Great conversation. Keep up the good work.. keeping the balance on making a decision and what’s good for the land and what’s good for you.
This is all such excellent advice! If I was still a Realtor I would have my prospective buyers watch this.
Good points. Around here, putting in a simple logging road can cost you forty thousand dollars.
When we lived to our 8 acres 16 years ago I wasn’t sure if I would like it as I was raised in a small town neighborhood... everything you said was great advice to those looking to get started !!! We’ve experienced some of the draw backs you discussed but we managed to over done them and continue on this journey ... I really enjoy y’all’s advice and talks
Thank you for covering this topic. Love you guys and appreciate all your hard work to bring us the wealth of information and processes that make a homestead productive and successful.
Agreed.
I just found your channel, and already I love you guys. Such a beautiful family! Thank you for sharing this information. I’m Russian born, but have been living in Jacksonville Florida since age 13... In Russia growing up my family had a few plots of land, which we utilised for food growing. We also kept some chickens on one of our properties. Since moving to US Florida, we no longer grow food, or keep chickens. Jacksonville Florida is way too hot, and humid for growing most things. It’s really sad, because I so miss being surrounded by wild, organic, untamed nature untouched by human hand. I dream of buying land far away from civilisation, and living a self-sufficient life. I didn’t know that people are looking to buy 100 acres. That is such a colossal amount of land. For me 5 -7 acres is more than enough
Yes Florida is rly just a vacation spot
Ppl living there simply consume, they don’t produce anything
@@YeshuaKingMessiah wow smh
Florida is too hot and humid for growing most things? Tell that to David the Good, author of Create Your Own Florida Food Forest, whose work is shown here on yt. He will get a good laugh knowing that he's done the impossible 🤣
@@TheRealHonestInquiry I am happy to hear that I’m wrong about this. More than anyone I want to be able to grow food in Florida. I’m definitely not an expert on this at all, and I was only speaking from personal experience. I was only talking about my own experience with experimenting with growing food in Jacksonville Florida where I live. Maybe I haven’t had much success because I did it wrong. Maybe it was due to the fact that I didn’t want to involve any artificial synthetic chemicals, fertilizers, pesticides, etc.
@@YeshuaKingMessiah Florida has a HUGE agricultural component...maybe do a simple google search before making such sweeping incorrect statements. Oranges, lemons, grapefruit, strawberries, lettuce & cabbage of all kinds, carrots, peanuts, just to name a few off the top of my head.
Y'all are the best. Thanks for sharing yourselves with the world. I appreciate your efforts and presentation.
Man I don’t think we followed any of these😂 20 acres of raw national forest land, middle of the mountains. But we did think through and make plans for everything and are chugging away. One year in and our cabin is done, chickens are happy, earth sheltered green house being built, barn foundation getting prepped, temporary enclosures for our soon to be cow all finished. Lots of work ahead but it’s doable! We are currently fully on solar but should have power before winter, and we had a well Witcher come out and our well will be drilled soon. We had the blessing of our old home being sold so we could be financially prepared for those big expenses. I have been really enjoying your videos!
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I just finished the great grandma video and I’m happy to hear she’s now living with you helping with the green beans, I’m sure she’s out weeding as well, what a wealth of knowledge 🙏❤️ and I just heard you say you’re in n Idaho, we are too and just bought some mountain property that The Lord just dropped in our laps, and I feel even stronger that I was led to your channel! We’re just getting started but I’m already learning so much from you guys! Thank You for sharing your skills and knowledge with all of us 🙏❤️🙏 I’d love to see a lamb recipe, I’ve never cooked it myself and I’m a little scared to try though I think we’d like it!
Best in class! For your butter! Way to go Brianna!
I love all of this great information. I am learning so much about preserving and gardening. Plus so much more! I really enjoy your presentation style! Thank you!
Out east soil does matter. Some of the coal mines and strip mining have poisoned or caused irreparable damage to the soil. In the case of strip mining you could move top soil in but the cost would be prohibitive on a large piece of land.
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Carolyn: Have you thought about purchasing a commercial cooler unit for your refrigerator? They are essentially just big refrigerator with no freezer attached. You should look at some of the restaurant supply companies in your area. You may even be able to get a good deal on a unit from a business that didn't stay in business for very long. There are several restaurant supply companies online who will deliver to the nearest large city or a business like the one where you picked up your bulk purchases. I hope you find this helpful.
We were currently offered a steal on a house and property, we weren’t looking but it was a family member wanting to keep the house in the family. A home built in 1900 with 4 acres. This video was super helpful in what we are looking at. My husband is well acquainted with the property but I am not. It’s going to be a journey I think! Thankfully we won’t be in a hurry to move right in considering the property is just down the road to our current homestead
Have to tell you...love the talks. I used to raise sheep, primarily Dorsets who are great moms even for triplets, and their fibre is awesome. I own a Fiber Mill in Ontario (Wool4Ewe Fiber Mill) and batts (for quilts etc) are great for farm-gate sales as well as rovings for needle felters. When I heard Gotland sheep...wow amazing locks..huge market.
If buying a large property and wanting to divide in into zones of slowly working your property be sure to know what the ordinances are in having unused land that is allowed to grow naturally. Some areas have it where all under brush must be cleared out. My mother and stepfather had that issue on a piece of property 25 years ago. I am almost 60. What holds true then also holds true now. Zoning laws and ordinances need to be clear to you before buying. Also property taxes and when it was last paid. Third but definitely not least to make sure the seller is the true owner. There are too many scamming con-artists putting ads on property they do not own but rent to sell in out of state newspapers and for sale by owner websites that are not checked by the website master on the true ownership of a property.
Great information Josh and Carolyn My wife and I just bought a old house in Northern New Hampshire and just went through all of this.
I love how you guys put things so detailed but seems simple. Thank you for all your skill sharing and wise words..
Access is very important. We shared a driveway with my wife's uncle and everything was fine for 10 years until he decided to sell it to someone from out of state. We have had trouble with them from day one.
Thank you for this info.. I have 1 suggestion for those who are looking for property. I live on the Gulf Coast and river areas. We have what is called flood plan areas. In order to purchase property or build we have to know this. Insurance is one purpose but the other is we have seen some sell land and chop it up as if it can be lived on as normal like a subdivision. It can't be. There is septic issues as well as homes flooding. Which calls for a whole different way of living. Different septic and build up on pears. This can be learned at the county emergency management office in that county. We had a land owner who was sued and spent a lot of money because he miss represented the property or was so careless. This factor had never occured in our area until this happened. A lot of home owners suffered greatly because of this as well. The more moving into areas that has never been settled or used strictly for timber or hunting large tracks which this was. With all the new development also change water flow as well.
Caroline I love your hair. It is so healthy looking.
We are new to homesteading and you two are amazing teachers. I am more comfortable canning and trying new things. Making my own convenience foods, tinctures, scratch cooking and I am enjoying the slower pace of life. We live on four acres that has been passed down through 4 generations. Big hill of family all around us. We have turned our entire property into a garden. Crazy how it all happened but we love it.
My cousins are in Northern ID! I lived ( loong time ago) in Idaho falls and while a desert type place where we lived, I loved it.
Make the local department of agriculture your new best friend. They can help a lot!!
You forgot to mention, what kind of wildlife that may be in the area and being prepared to deal with it. Bears, cougars, or whatever it may be.
You all are so good to us viewers
Thanks again
For multi purpose sheep breeds with more focus on meat, I suggest one of the down breeds, such as Southdown. (Not sure about specifics in your area) they are nice and big and bred for wool and meat
Thank you for all the work you put in to bring excellent content! Great points!
You all are living my life!! Haha. My desire has always been to have my own homestead and well, stuff happens and I haven't realized that dream. I will soon!. God-willing!. In the meantime, I watch your videos with eagerness! Thanks for sharing!
Wonderful video(s), Thanks from Canada! Lots of us more or less can’t stand wool on our skin, but I have had beautiful Icelandic woollen coats, jackets, etc. lined with a slippery fabric that makes them wearable.
when we bought our property and for our first 20 years we had no water problem with our water (well). Then our immediate area had a lot of building. We now have 2 wells and still water issues in the summer if we don't have enough rain.
Wow! I have really enjoyed this info session, and have learned so much from you all. Thank you
Those shirts, Twinzies! Thank you for the video. You guys are awesome.
I am a Fiber artist. I love the whole process with wool. Icelandic sheep!! The best for felting. I buy it from Lavender Farm. I will look it up and repost if you are interested. I did classes using their wool for slippers. Felting in fun and easy!
@paula smith is your class available for purchase to watch online, or it was only an in person class?
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Wow thats lot of information and to the point , thanks for sharing,I can see that both of you are intelligent and wise.
Perfect 👍🏼 Ad I’m 67 and looking for some homestead property as I’m not in need of more than 10 acres. God bless and thank you
FYI; I’m California there has been over 800k people leaving to a better life
The fencing comment reminded me that I believe it’s crucial to know of the state you move to is a fence on or fence out state. That’s just my opinion so I don’t know if it really is.
I just really love you guys & really appreciate your willingness to share such pertinent information, especially in these times. Thank you!!!!
Learn valuable points everyone of your videos especially here. Thank you
Great info! We own the house we are living in right now in the city. We want to buy raw land and work it and build a smaller house than we have now. We are not in a major rush to do that I have been looking at land and we just want 5-7 acres. I dont think we will be doing any animals other than chickens, and of course a garden.
We raised suffolk sheep when I was growing up. Super easy breed.
I am getting used to your chat beforehand, I don't have to chomp the bit.
I have Icelandic sheep and to increase the size I have brought in a Romonov ram. They are also very prolific.
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Glad you liked it!
Some good points. People think that you have to buy a huge piece of land to be able to grow a garden or raise some animals but you really don't. You could buy 100 acres and only a only a small portion is actually good to use for anything. We have a ten acre property that was part of an original homestead and we have more than enough good usable land to have a two huge gardens and room for chickens and we could in future have some livestock, maybe a couple of cows or some sheep or goats.
So incredible WISE!!!
This video give me information. Thanks!
Good on ya, about the neighbors!! And everything else you talked about.!!
wonderful video. very enlightening thanks so much.
Very good info! Thank you for posting
Hahaha i been trying to move out of NY for years and I'm finally moving to a really Red state deep Red and My ten acers is all woods and 51 inches of rain a year and is a 7.2 out of a ten in wether. I'm going to be living in a tent and building a home sted from scratch that is the whole idea of it. And yes I made shour it has no restrictions and legal access.
Where I live, the only way to buy accessible land that's within my means is if it's raw land. Everything else has surged into the stratosphere as far as affordability goes. Ironically having a home(even one with problems) makes it a bit more affordable atm only cause you can take a longer mortgage out.
Great content, really helpful information.
Great information! Thank you
Great information!!
Id like to do this in S America, chicks, wine, honey, raw milk, not into veggies, but would consider grass and maybe dandelions, grapes of course for wine.
First year raising Kahatadin sheep. We loved them. It's very hot here and they did great. Also they did great with a natural dewormer. Yes, the right breed is key.
I'm in Victoria Australia and we love sheep, in fact here in Australia Lamb is one of our favorite meats on the market, i did raise Merino x Suffolk we loved the wool although only good for art and wool and Dorper x wiltipoll as they don't require shearing but just fantastic meat and milk if you like sheep milk (we don't like the milk for us to drink but it comes in handy if we get a potty lamb we would keep 5ltrs in the freezer in case, the lambs seem to do much better if the 1st drink is sheep milk we found) , Lamb is best on the BBQ or crumbed lamb cutlets, roast lamb with rosemary and lamb stew.
I never could imagine even wanting to fence a huge property. I would only fence the parts that need fencing.
Great tutorial! Some hinge there needs oil 👩🌾
Thank you. This is so helpful
I enjoy y'alls chit chats
Where do you get your canning jars? Also, how do you budget for the jar expense?
Jars you can reuse many times but the lids are 1 time use, although you can now buy reusable lids too.
You can buy on line, at grocery and farm supply stores.
Look up BALL.
Thanks for answering my sheep questions. One follow up . Do they pay for themselves? Are they cost effective?
FYI I have friends that raise their own sheep.. Farm raised sheep are easy. There healthy and the meat. Is awesome. They butcher once a year. And they never buy meat at the market. Some raise cattle some raise goats. And at butcher time. They barter. With church friends to have a meat variety. They barter pound for pound. It is a nice plan. They have. There not... Like city dwellers. City dwellers. Clearly. They have mental illness problems. As you can see on the news everyday. Also. Farm raised chickens produce better eggs and chicken meat raised on a farm is far better than factory raised chickens. ..hope this helps
@ Yes,thanks!
Is a sloped pasture okay for four or so cows? I do not know the degree, but it’s maybe about 30. It is slopes toward the home, but there are swales. I’m wondering too where to learn about seeding it for grazing.
What is beautiful music you use for the beginning of your videos.
Do you have a link to your video about relocating? I’m interested in watching that one as well!!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge ❤️
ua-cam.com/video/Bz3aJaKdEwo/v-deo.html is the relocating vid.
Tip: Homesteading Family are always great about providing links to their past videos if they mention them in a current vid. As long as the vid you are watching is not finished, you can find linked vids in the right hand upper corner. You will find a small round, white&black exclamation mark and if you click that, it unfolds a list of linked videos. ❤️
Magda Rantanplan Thank you!
I was thinking earlier, if you had a long road, build a cabin close to the road, live there, and develop your road later. You could even have a cabin that could be easily moved.
9:28 is where the #1 thing to look for starts
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Great video thank you so much but lube the door hinges, please 🤣
How do you hook up water pipes to a new well.
Do I need to insulate it with something?
Also I may have to
Radon, termites, high taxes?
QUESTION - We are currently looking for land to buy, and we've been watching UA-cam, to start learning, but the ONE subject that nobody ever talks about, is this : How do you slaughter a sheep or other animal in a humane way, that is a quick deqth without the animal succering?
This is a great list. Than you guys!
For those who haven't tasted sheep/lamb, it tastes like beef but also a little grassy.
I actually have a question about your water glasses egg video. I thought I might have a better chance of you seeing it if I put it on a more current video. Lol. Anyway, what is the name brand of hydrated lime you purchased from Home Depot. I'm so worried about buying the wrong stuff! Thank you!
It needs to be Type S hydrated lime from the building section, NOT the hydrated lime from the garden secion.