Danny Elfman - Simple Concepts for Film Scoring

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  • @RYXPfan
    @RYXPfan 3 роки тому +27

    I was so hoping you would have a video about Danny Elfman’s music-he is one of my favorite musicians! Despite his massive success, he seems fairly underappreciated to me. Of course, most film composers are.

    • @90FirstGenPGT
      @90FirstGenPGT Рік тому

      Totally agree. Love his work. My favorites are from the first men in black movie. The starting credit and end credit scores. Absolutely beautiful

  • @bigcabba
    @bigcabba 6 років тому +10

    What I hear and what the theory backs up is that no matter what situation Batman is faced with, he remains resolute. Even when the chords modulate out of the key, the same melodic sequence (motif) endures. Batman has always been an example of a hero who sticks to his moral code. This theme brilliantly communicates this. Danny is easily my top 5 composers and all this does is back that up.

  • @albertibass6521
    @albertibass6521 7 років тому +102

    Steve Bartek does the orchestrations, who was Elfman's guitarist in Oingo Boingo. Incredibly underrated guitarist.

    • @Eventual420
      @Eventual420 7 років тому +5

      Alberti Bass The Kingdom, some gorgeous guitar work. I was hoping Steve would be mentioned somewhere in the comments. Thank you.

    • @Balsamore
      @Balsamore 6 років тому +1

      Yes, for this score it was him and the great Shirley Walker.

    • @ernestogasulla7763
      @ernestogasulla7763 6 років тому +5

      Right at the time of this movie. These days Danny does it himself. But Steve showed him the ropes.

    • @lucasaliscomposer
      @lucasaliscomposer 4 роки тому +11

      Steve Bartek deals with orchestration in the sense that he corrects the scores for the orchestra. All the instruments and colors we hear in the compositions are the work of Elfman. Let's be careful not to confuse things. Elfman orchestrates alone already 99% of his compositions

    • @VFXCommander
      @VFXCommander 4 роки тому +1

      @@lucasaliscomposer That's not what I heard. I have sources (I cannot say) said that Danny knows nothing about orchestration and never even worked with orchestras before starting a film scoring career. He used to stand in a middle of a circle that consists of an army of orchestrators and just hum the tunes to them.

  • @DreamPurpleFloyd
    @DreamPurpleFloyd 7 років тому +4

    For anyone interested in Danny's music I strongly recommend checking his first band *Oingo Boingo*.
    It's a really unique blend of rock, ska, new wave, pop with really interesting arrangements, unique musical ideas and hilarious lyrics.
    I'm pretty sure it had a huge influence on bands like Mr Bungle. I would start with the albums "Good For Your Soul" and "Only A Lad".

  • @Kurt1969
    @Kurt1969 7 років тому +60

    Great episode! Danny Elfman has such a unique 'sonic signature'. Would love to see more. Thanks

  • @midge2112
    @midge2112 Рік тому +3

    Loved your breakdown of this piece! I never realized how something so rich and evocative could be created from five notes!

  • @jamestagliareni9417
    @jamestagliareni9417 3 роки тому +3

    The talents of the composer, Danny Elfman. The orchestrator, Steve Bartek. Shirley Walker conducting the Sinfonia of London Orchestra. Always awesome and amazing.

  • @NormanTiner
    @NormanTiner Рік тому +10

    I cannot believe how emotionally resonant 5 notes can be. It's almost unbearable that somebody could be so damn talented. Would love to know Elfman's scoring inspirations. As far as I can tell, the guy dropped from the sky with a completely unique style.

    • @Itsjustliketheweather
      @Itsjustliketheweather 8 місяців тому +1

      Shostakovich, Stravinsky, and Bernard Herrmann are inspirations he has mentioned in interviews but he loves so many genres. Check out his "What's in my bag" he did at Amoeba records, he talks a little about the music that lights him up. :)

    • @homegeek3650
      @homegeek3650 2 місяці тому

      this cue more than just a little similar to one of Herrmann's cues for Journey to the Center of the Earth

  • @BoredomEnsues
    @BoredomEnsues 7 років тому +68

    Awesome, I've been waiting for you to discuss Danny's music for a while. I would love to see a video on Goldsmith as well.

    • @SoundAuthor
      @SoundAuthor 7 років тому +1

      Yes! Star Trek Voyager theme!

  • @mistermarkeys
    @mistermarkeys 7 років тому +46

    Danny Elfman is the king of modulation.

    • @jasonfella265
      @jasonfella265 3 роки тому +3

      Yah, I didn't even notice a couple of those key changes until Rick pointed them out. Damn.

  • @flushfries5633
    @flushfries5633 5 років тому +3

    The opening to Batman Returns (Birth of a Penguin Pt I) is probably one of my favorite melodies of his. It’s so full of tragedy and melodrama.

  • @jru42287
    @jru42287 7 років тому +4

    Awesome!! I would love to see a breakdown of his Spider-Man theme as well. I think that's one of his most underrated scores.

  • @robertservice4932
    @robertservice4932 7 років тому +6

    Great video! As a musician, your videos in this style are my favourite and some of the best content on UA-cam.

  • @LakesideEcho
    @LakesideEcho Рік тому +2

    Rick! Great vids as always.

  • @TrevorWesleyOfficial
    @TrevorWesleyOfficial 9 місяців тому

    damn bro you really killed that mock up.... you really delivered those dynamics...

  • @markyboo
    @markyboo 7 років тому +8

    I'd love to see a breakdown of Elfman's Beetlejuice theme. It seems like there are a lot of interesting things going on in it.

  • @ShaunaMarieSings
    @ShaunaMarieSings 6 років тому +6

    **EXCELLENT!!!** I LOVE Danny Elfman's music...especially the 'Edward Scissorhands' film score...thank you so much, Rick!!! 💗💗💗

  • @davidsummerville351
    @davidsummerville351 7 років тому +1

    The flat sixth is awesome. So many ways it influences everything around it. Great video. Thanks

  • @cook-music
    @cook-music 4 роки тому +1

    This was the best breakdown I've seen for some of Danny Elfman's music so far. Would love to see your take on songs other than the Batman theme, as that seems to be the most common on UA-cam right now, and I'm sure Danny Elfman has many tricks up his sleeve. Thanks for putting this out, it was one of those moments where you pick up a couple of new progressions that you will never forget.

  • @Sinisterbvnny
    @Sinisterbvnny 7 років тому +1

    Rick, I havent even watched the video yet, and I want to say thank you ahead of time. I Love Danny Elfman, and have always tried to mimic his style from film scores to Oingo Boingo! Thanks so much!

  • @rohitravi2989
    @rohitravi2989 7 років тому +3

    Thank you so much for this, this has been my favourite batman theme since my childhood

  • @lucasaliscomposer
    @lucasaliscomposer 4 роки тому +1

    Steve Bartek deals with orchestration in the sense that he corrects the scores for the orchestra. All the instruments and colors we hear in the compositions are the work of Elfman. Let's be careful not to confuse things. Elfman orchestrates alone already 99% of his compositions

  • @thestud2
    @thestud2 5 років тому +6

    Best comic book film music of all time, wish he used it for the Justice League.

    • @gkgyver
      @gkgyver 4 роки тому

      Uh, he did

    • @thestud2
      @thestud2 4 роки тому +1

      @@gkgyver a faint use of it.

  • @Edmundostudios
    @Edmundostudios 7 років тому +8

    The Fable music is fantastic always sets the mood.

    • @SkillipEvolver
      @SkillipEvolver 7 років тому +1

      Edmundo studios and its making a return apparently !?

    • @Edmundostudios
      @Edmundostudios 7 років тому +1

      SkillipEvolver rumour has it.

  • @jasonfella265
    @jasonfella265 3 роки тому +1

    Love seeing this analysis, as this is one of the best musical scores ever, IMO, especially that beginning track.

  • @WaveRiderMusic
    @WaveRiderMusic 7 років тому +1

    that incredible music he is doing! that composer was self-taught . his themes are really distinctive and stand out. I would like to learn more about his compositions.

  • @trustno_one
    @trustno_one 5 днів тому

    Beautiful movie, such a cool tone, great soundtrack by Elfman but also Prince

  • @petemusgrove7422
    @petemusgrove7422 6 років тому

    Wonderful. It goes to show that music doesn't always need to be complex to be interesting and have great impact! Great video, thanks Rick.

  • @JackQAnimations
    @JackQAnimations 5 років тому +1

    You were able to explain Elfman's style in such a way I could understand. Very interesting stuff, I hope to see more!

  • @JAFOpty
    @JAFOpty 7 років тому +1

    simple but memorable ... Shirley Walker did some amazing work inspired by this theme as well

  • @VikingVertigo
    @VikingVertigo 7 років тому +2

    Omg, I've always loved this theme! Thank you!

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape 7 років тому +1

    I love that theme and how they used it again in The Animated Series.

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 6 років тому

    It takes genius to make something so elaborately beautiful out of just five notes.

  • @ravenmusic932
    @ravenmusic932 7 років тому

    I recently made a mock-up from the reprise and although the motific idea is pretty simple, the real art is the arrangement that contains a lot of details which make the piece really interesting and outstanding.

  • @marcelomerola_art
    @marcelomerola_art 5 років тому +2

    Amazing! A great analysis from Elfman's Batman theme.

  • @DerekRNeumann
    @DerekRNeumann 6 років тому +1

    Love this, I wonder if he had "Lets Face The music and Dance" in his head when he wrote this. It's the only thing I hear when I watch this.

  • @michaelakraka8100
    @michaelakraka8100 7 років тому +1

    So, so informative! I learn so much from this! You are a fantastic teacher!!!

  • @JonKovach
    @JonKovach 7 років тому

    These are some of my favorite videos, I sit at my computer with my midi keyboard eagerly playing along with these composers analysis. I would love to see some Harry Gregson Williams or Alan Silvestri breakdowns.

  • @RoeyHaviv
    @RoeyHaviv 7 років тому +52

    Very good, Elfman uses some weird science in his music (ha!) I would suggest braking down the Simpsons theme next please.

    • @zeppyprimo1013
      @zeppyprimo1013 4 роки тому

      Danny probably used Grey Matter for the weird science, some say that he was making Grey Matter while Running on a treadmill

    • @nomadfc4342
      @nomadfc4342 4 роки тому

      Yeah i love the tritone intro of the Simpsons

  • @alexanderdelacruz9249
    @alexanderdelacruz9249 6 років тому +179

    I actually prefer Danny Elfman’s to Zimmer’s Batman 🤔

    • @oscarmike1131
      @oscarmike1131 5 років тому +6

      alexander dela cruz same here. But Shirley Walker still has the best theme in my opinion

    • @WyattCayer
      @WyattCayer 5 років тому +16

      I think they both are very good for their respective films, although I am a bigger fan of melodic presentation over soundscapes. I think it take a bit more gusto to write something that can stick in someones head long after the film is over like danny can.

    • @RainerK.
      @RainerK. 5 років тому +10

      Hell yeah, I don't even remember Zimmer's.

    • @sebastiandiaz29
      @sebastiandiaz29 4 роки тому +12

      Zimmer said in his masterclass that he didn´t want to make the sound of the dark night ´s Batman as a real hero but more as something that never concludes, I like both to be honest.

    • @dia_sonus
      @dia_sonus 4 роки тому +5

      Zimmer's theme is for Nolan's film,both have different ways of storytelling

  • @dollofshadows1703
    @dollofshadows1703 8 місяців тому +3

    I think Rick needs to interview Danny Elfman next!!

    • @mosstet
      @mosstet 7 місяців тому +2

      YES!

  • @RobiticDuck
    @RobiticDuck 7 років тому

    Love listening to the Goosebumps Movie score. I play it in my car all the time.

  • @chrisxu9373
    @chrisxu9373 4 роки тому

    Your courses are the most valuable and wonderful for my study!

  • @RisikoAO
    @RisikoAO 7 років тому +1

    It's pretty well known that Bernard Hermann did a very similar thing back in 1959 for the soundtrack of "Journey to the center of the earth". But I still think Elfman's work for Batman is just perfect :)

  • @philippgrunert8776
    @philippgrunert8776 7 років тому

    Yeah, this had to happen. One of my all time favoutite scores.
    Thanks Rick!

  • @jamessalem2825
    @jamessalem2825 5 років тому

    Love your breakdown , detailed as always. Goldsmith’s Basic Instinct is an underrated but sophisticated score.

  • @YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect
    @YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect 7 років тому +20

    Danny does a very Prokofievesque type of score in my opinion.

    • @6695John13
      @6695John13 4 роки тому +2

      That's true. In his Masterclass he openly admits prokofiev is his favorite composer

  • @davidallenhammond2777
    @davidallenhammond2777 7 років тому

    Thank you so much Rick. I've loved his work for quite some time.

  • @matthewjamestaylor
    @matthewjamestaylor 7 років тому

    This is a great video, both content and length. I would love it if you made more videos like this one. Cheers.

  • @alandalaku719
    @alandalaku719 3 роки тому +3

    From what I saw from a TV interview, Danny Elfman is a SELF-taught musician.

  • @artemisarrow9545
    @artemisarrow9545 4 роки тому

    such an awesome breakdown, thank you!! I would love more Elfman analysis by you, I love your style. thanks!

  • @Matt-Hurin
    @Matt-Hurin 2 роки тому +5

    Elfman is an absolute legend, one of my favourite voices ever

  • @progmind4274
    @progmind4274 2 роки тому

    My daughter:
    "Hey, dad, what is music!?"
    "Ooooh, my little darlin'...
    Music is....
    Music is....
    Rick Beato!"
    :-P
    Love You from Italy.

  • @GwcMuso
    @GwcMuso 7 років тому

    Oh man, Rick always delivers. Top guy!

  • @splashesin8
    @splashesin8 7 років тому

    This is great! It makes me think of a specific vocalist, song writer, that already incorporates something very similar, to a lifetime of amazing effect. It would be so fun and intense if she and Elfman could play around collaborating in a room together. Wish I could put a bird in both of their ears...

  • @aaronseckman
    @aaronseckman 7 років тому +3

    My 3 yr old LOVES the soundtrack from A Nightmare Before Christmas by D.E.

  • @Julzantoine
    @Julzantoine 3 роки тому

    So good to hear from danny elfman !

  • @idontgivea1769
    @idontgivea1769 2 роки тому +2

    Elfman has an incredible musical mind. Even The Simpsons theme is a masterpiece.

    • @NormanTiner
      @NormanTiner Рік тому

      I always forget that was him too. Elfman has something so special.

  • @t3rm116
    @t3rm116 6 років тому

    Awesome Content Rick, I am a fan. Thanks for helping brush up on my theory chops.

  • @louielouie372
    @louielouie372 6 років тому

    Great use of color and lighting.Don't mind if I copy at all.Just learned a lot thanks.

  • @doggbloodz9640
    @doggbloodz9640 7 років тому

    Really nice @Rick Beato ! much appreciated. Could you maybe also do a video where you show how to orchestrate this score?, like you did in the video "Techniques of Orchestration Part 1 | How To Orchestrate a Chord" where you orchestrated the opening b-flat major chord of John Williams Star Wars score. Cheers.

  • @kevinmelton3515
    @kevinmelton3515 4 роки тому

    So good! Thank you for sharing some of your knowledge!

  • @charlesbakerharris3625
    @charlesbakerharris3625 6 років тому

    Thanks a ton man. Started at this video for a music assignment, now watching music theory for leisure on your channel which is very weird for me.

  • @jclefbouncyrock
    @jclefbouncyrock 7 років тому +1

    Awesome - thanks, Rick!

  • @sammerciers
    @sammerciers 7 років тому

    Rick. Good stuff as always. I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the very very strong resemblance between the opening of this score and the opening of Mathis der Maler by Hindemith. Give it a listen.

  • @TomHawkComposer
    @TomHawkComposer 7 років тому

    This lesson is incredible! Wow. I still have a lot to learn about orchestration but this really excites me :)

  • @matthewpeterson3329
    @matthewpeterson3329 3 роки тому

    I would love to see Rick do a follow up to Danny Elfman, using the score from Midnight Run. It's so light-hearted and bouncy. That movie was totally fun, and I can't imagine it could've had the same feel with any other score.

  • @einsteinwasgod
    @einsteinwasgod 7 років тому

    Themes of the first two spider-man movies are just awesome. And it would be more awesome to see you analyze spider-man's music.

  • @tarkineWild
    @tarkineWild 7 років тому +4

    Interesting discussion on simple melodic themes Rick, could you at some point do a similar discussion on Thomas Newman music

  • @pringelsthegamefreak
    @pringelsthegamefreak 6 років тому

    That Bm7(b6) chord sounds awesome and mysterious.

  • @uncledrew7633
    @uncledrew7633 6 років тому +1

    Analyze Spider-man still by far the most memorable theme throughout all the different scores in the past!

  • @abbasalikhan
    @abbasalikhan 7 років тому

    ahhh finally. thanks rick

  • @yummyjackalmeat
    @yummyjackalmeat 7 років тому +17

    Just watched it 2 days ago. I didnt remember it being so Simpsonsesque in some places.

    • @DominicCaudill
      @DominicCaudill 7 років тому +2

      yummyjackalmeat Danny Elfman composed the Simpsons theme as well as the music for the movie if I recall correctly

    • @yummyjackalmeat
      @yummyjackalmeat 7 років тому +7

      Dominic Caudill yes he did and I did know that. I was just surprised to hear those little bits in there. When I was young I was so drawn to the visual aesthetic that I would have never noticed Simpson's and Batman not just sharing the same composer but some of the same musical ideas.

    • @Joesfosterdogs
      @Joesfosterdogs 6 років тому

      done at the same time period so makes sense in his development yes?

  • @NIKITKOKIS
    @NIKITKOKIS 7 років тому +32

    Oh! Do Spider-Man Theme!

    • @pringelsthegamefreak
      @pringelsthegamefreak 6 років тому +3

      Keith agreed

    • @WyattCayer
      @WyattCayer 5 років тому +1

      It's 10 times better IMO and the amount of different memorable melodies and techniques he used are just sublime!!! and never cease to give me goosebumps and chills.

  • @IGstBNgrPPutra
    @IGstBNgrPPutra 6 років тому +2

    you got new subscriber
    please do more of danny elfman music, maybe beetlejuice, this is halloween, or tears to shed
    thank you, thank you, thank you soo muchhh

  • @lerippletoe6893
    @lerippletoe6893 6 років тому

    There is a distinct use of remarkably simple themes in recent film music like this, or themes based only on a single chord and one of its chromatic mediants; the popularity of more minimal thematic material in Zimmer's style, etc. Do you think this is driven in a functional way by the flow of films and thus music is fit to that role which the film makers were seeking for it? Or do you think this direction in film music was a more independent stylistic factor that has come about for other reasons?

  • @tepidtooth8539
    @tepidtooth8539 3 роки тому +1

    Me: Just casually browsing UA-cam
    *Sees Rick Beato video on Danny Elfman*
    *Tries not to have minor stroke*

  • @longtrang5706
    @longtrang5706 7 років тому +14

    Dude I was waiting for this I love Danny’s stuff and avenged sevenfold has claimed inspiration from him.

  • @rileykaiseeker4294
    @rileykaiseeker4294 7 років тому +13

    Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice! I love danny's Beetlejuice theme with it's alternating time signature and his obsession with the diminished 4th interval....Or 'The Simpsons' theme, which is also based around the diminished 4th interval. In fact, this batman theme starts on one note (B) and resolves on it's diminished 4th. (F) He just can't help himself.

    • @aripent
      @aripent 7 років тому +3

      RileyKaiSeeker you mean augmented 4th

    • @rileykaiseeker4294
      @rileykaiseeker4294 7 років тому +2

      +Ari Pentelovitch No!! I meant diminished 5th ;) (But i'm not going to edit my comment to correct my glaring brain fart, because that would be cheating!)

    • @HampusLiedman
      @HampusLiedman 7 років тому +1

      In Simpsons it's an augumented 4 at least. Not sure about the others on the top of my head.

    • @charlesgaskell5899
      @charlesgaskell5899 7 років тому

      E# rather than F, surely

  • @alicethedestroyer1287
    @alicethedestroyer1287 2 роки тому

    Rick… Bernard Herrmann’s “Journey to the Center of the Earth”… particularly the cue titled “Sunrise”. Might be worth hearing the model first.

  • @federicolopezmusic
    @federicolopezmusic 6 років тому

    That mockup sounds really good how long did it take you to make it?

  • @damion2226
    @damion2226 6 років тому

    I love these tutorials on Film Scoring Rick. Really helpful. Thanks

  • @dimitrisnikoloulis4071
    @dimitrisnikoloulis4071 3 роки тому

    Batman's theme is the most iconic one march ! Badass and darkly epic!

  • @ecwrvd420
    @ecwrvd420 7 років тому

    Weird I was debating this morning if I preferred this or the hanz zimmer theme more. This one wins slightly, quintessential batman theme could work in either movies.

  • @eduardopadrino2117
    @eduardopadrino2117 7 років тому +10

    You should make a video on Johnny Greenwood's score for Phantom Thread. It was awesome.

    • @damiangreen6645
      @damiangreen6645 7 років тому

      Especially now when he's nominated for Oscars

    • @Joesfosterdogs
      @Joesfosterdogs 6 років тому

      great thing about comments...now i know about Johnny thanks!

  • @DarshanSenTheComposer
    @DarshanSenTheComposer 7 років тому

    Rick Beato Thanks for doing this tutorial! Danny's batman score will always remain in our hearts. Chord distances and natures give us a mood to a character. But a tune is the actual character in the music. How do we come up with a tune closely related to a character?

  • @benjaminsim5233
    @benjaminsim5233 6 років тому

    The theme is exactly the same as the opening motif in Hindemith’s Mathis der Maler. Even down to the organum present in the sustained pedal tone. The whole atmosphere Elfman was trying to evoke in the opening bars is a direct imitation of what hindemith did in Mathis der Maler. The theme does bear some sort of relation to the Simpsons theme but I would say it is more than likely that Elfman would have taken inspiration from Hindemith when composing this.

  • @SecondLifeAround
    @SecondLifeAround 5 років тому

    My favorite work by Danny Elfman was on Tim Burton's "Pee-wee's Big Adventure"....no joke, that soundtrack is a masterpiece.

  • @jamesfarmer6953
    @jamesfarmer6953 7 років тому

    I’d love to see another awesome video like this but on the Danny Elfman Spider-Man soundtrack! Hope I can see it soon!

  • @stevenvanrensburg2938
    @stevenvanrensburg2938 7 років тому

    thank you very interesting, would you be able to analyze Alan Silvestre's work please?

  • @TheBigwheels11
    @TheBigwheels11 6 років тому

    Would love to see you break down some Oingo Boingo music. Love Oingo Boingo. Dead Mans Party, Private Life...Grey Matter ect....

  • @ljdobles8104
    @ljdobles8104 2 роки тому

    Excelente video. Uno de mis temas favoritos de Batman, mejor que el de Zimmer.

  • @kreepeetz
    @kreepeetz 7 років тому +1

    Awesome video! Btw I think that "Nightmare before xmas" has a lot of content to discuss too :D

    • @loganwilbur5131
      @loganwilbur5131 5 років тому

      Surprised no one else is has mentioned Nightmare before Xmas. With all its key changes and modes and time signatures, it's a gold mine for theory

  • @Bobrano
    @Bobrano 7 років тому

    The beginning of the Rush song "Cinderella Man" uses those same 5 notes, in the same order with a second D at the end; B-C#-D-G-F#-D

  • @TheDoug625
    @TheDoug625 5 років тому +1

    Loved this. How about "Journey to the Line" by Hans Zimmer

  • @tacos1337
    @tacos1337 7 років тому

    Thanks for yet another great video Rick! It's fantastic to see how simple melodic material can hold together such complex harmony and turn it into a memorable tune. I'd love to see more of Danny Elfman's music on your channel for sure ! (The alice theme maybe, or the spiderman theme)?

  • @SubCultureMEDIAHilbert
    @SubCultureMEDIAHilbert 7 років тому +2

    Awesome!

  • @Karmablock
    @Karmablock 7 років тому

    Wow, wish this video would show in my subscriptions.

  • @Robbannno
    @Robbannno 7 років тому

    Aah at first I thought I read Music of Danny Gatton! Please Rick do a video about the legend!!

  • @Melly20Feb
    @Melly20Feb 6 років тому +1

    Batman Theme - "there may be trouble ahead"? But, "lets face the music" - and dance?