PLUMBING PIPEWORK ISSUE..WHY HAS IT MOVED?.. also shower tray fitting at The Barn
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- Mixer shower measurements are slightly off now I've come to install them at the barn renovation....but is it that much of an issue to sort it?
Also we get a huge 1500x900 shower tray into position along with the pipework for one of the bathrooms that concealed behind the suite.
The Barn renovation really is taking shape now and its going to look superb.
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Hi Mark,
I lost count of the things I learned from this film, thank you for that.
I will have a shower tray and cubicle to fit for a family member soon, I’m glad you showed the shower waste being installed.
It must be great when a quality job like that starts to come together, those bathrooms look fantastic now.
A brilliant film as always, real world plumbing, my favourite. Have a good week, take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍
Glad your learning bits from it Chris, love that 👍🏼👍🏼
Yer it’s coming together all right👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbingTake care, 👍👍
I second that mark ! Love your vids leaned a lot from your stuff. Keep them coming ! 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Great video and what a lovely home they are going to end up in 😍 . I love your channel and have been binge watching them for few weeks now due to my son doing his apprenticeship in bathroom and kitchen fitting, he's picked up some great tips from you and gone into work and it's made his job easier. Can't wait to see the finished job on this one though . Keep up the good work and appreciate you taking time to film your day . 👍
Thanks mate… glad you and your lad are enjoying the channel👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
You make it look so easy mark it's like poetry in motion. We get the plastic plumber jibes 70% of our jobs are plastic 20% maincor and the remaining 10% copper it's a sign of the times most sites you go on now won't allow hot works and if they do it's only for gas and you have to be well insured and on the ball.
Thanks Adie….. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yep it’s about moving with the times and as always a lot of people want it cheap…. I would love to be able to do it all in copper but the bill would be huge🙈🙈
Brilliant job i have nor seen one of those trays fitted before and had no idea,there is no leveling ability to them,and you just silicone the base and drop it in ,of course making sure the concrete base is 100 per level,i also wondered how much of a job it was getting that 4-inch drain out of that whole and back again,thanks for this one,i learnt a lot from watching ,thanks again.
I really like your video because it let me understand much about plumbing and is helpful
Thanks mate 👍🏼
The Barns looking good Mark, those bathrooms coming together nicely, looking forward to seeing it complete. 👍🚽
Thanks Peter…. It’s certainly moving on now mate
Good vid looks of accurate measuring well done barns fairly coming on.👍👍👍
Thanks mate, yer it’s getting there now
great to see a good sweep up of shower tray base well done its simple and easy but not a lot of plumbers would sweep it up , brilliant ,
Thanks 👍
I even get the vac out for mine 😂
Interesting video again handy cupboard behind the bathroom for future access i hate shower screens as well
Thanks mate…. Yer I’m not a huge fan of them🙈
I looked into my crystal ball, and called it spot on with your solution to get 150 centres for shower! Must be worth a prize 😉. I had same issue with my knipex cutters, pretty annoying to be honest! Great content mark. Well done 👍
You did mate, when you commented on my post I thought “bloody hell he was there” 🤣🤣🤣
Spooky! Even guessed the number of drill holes! 😉😉👍👍
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Lovely job that is mate! Quality video! Place looks amazing! A million miles from the council repairs I do! 😔 good job I get stuck into private work also! Or I would literally go insane! Take care matey and look forward to your future videos!
Thanks Marc…. Yer it’s a great build this one, be sad to see it finished
@@MJTiffPlumbing my day to day is a council run estate same houses and flats. Same stuff ripped out and same stuff back in, Monday to Friday for past 14 years! Can get you down at times so always try to keep busy with other things as well. Love this type of stuff. You can just tell everyone’s skill and commitment is really paying off! Keep in with them mate and they will see you right I’m sure!
@@MarcGray1990 I did house bashing years ago, did around 10years of it…. Same thing day I. Day out… I know why you mean buddy
@@MJTiffPlumbing yeah it’s me my brother and my old man who are contracted on that estate. Even done the same properties now multiple times. Old man is 61 now so when he retires guess I can branch out more. There’s only so much you can achieve being paid on a price for your work. With materials going up in price it gets harder. Atleast my own gaff is spotless and done to a high standard. Patching up this and that on a day to day basis really does become a bore haha! It’s become so easy now doing the same thing over and over that you don’t need to think about it. Unlike the stuff featured in this video where you actually have to use your noggin to get round issues. Would be good if you could get a video on the whole completed project before it gets handed over. 👍
@@MarcGray1990 fair play to you all mate….. it’s done you all well by the sounds of it, but I know what you mean,you want to use your brain a bit.
Will be going over the whole build when it’s done mate👍🏼👍🏼
Great video again & thanks for making & spending time editing adding the sound music etc & working full time too! Hats off.
Re plastic pipe over copper, you’ve heard of Buteline stuff? Came across it, a New Zealand product over here & excellent as crimp fittings that much better than push plus also do solder to crimp type. Well worth a look.
Re the shower pipes, I sometimes find holes round tiles been made too big so those brackets are a right pain to try to drill & fit!
Also a important point to highlight to folks is the sealing round copper pipe on shower pipes; use GB pro or CT1 as the acid content in silicone reacts with copper & can eat at it.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it👍🏼👍🏼
Great job Mark, good video, coming on now Soon be out there
Thanks mate, it’s looking great
Great videos, learning so much from you and really appreciate the advice.
Thanks mate, appreciate the comment and glad your learning bits 👍🏼
Nice to see you using decent silicone. So often I see people using the 50p a tube crap. Top work pal. 👍👍
Cheers Buddy…… Gotta use proper stuff😉👍🏼
Sparky trick and all sort of trick… 😂 All matter is not a matter if you got more experience and more idea to make it work.. good video as always and that little room definitely life saver for future maintenance…
Harry Potters cupboard🤣
Really coming on now bud. That's great having that easy access for all the pipes on the bathroom. Thanks for all the tips as always. 😊
I don't get all the plastic haters out there. Use the best system for your application whatever it is. Pros and cons to all of them including copper. What's your take on mlcp just out of interest?
Shropshire escaped the worst of the storm proper blowy but not as bad as down south.
Thanks mate…. Glad you enjoyed it.
Everything has its place, as I said I use plastic for speed and cost but always copper where it’s seen🙌🏼🙌🏼
Nice content mate. It's the little bits that no one sees that makes the job 👍👍
Thanks mate….. your completely right, as long as water comes out that’s all they see
Cracking job once again mark, top bloke 🙌🏻🙌🏻👍👍
Thanks as always mate👍🏼👍🏼
Monday crew today...
Was not in a fit state yesterday to look at bright screens.
Boxing and bad heads are bad for ya haha. 🍺.
Good stuff mate 👍.
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Hey Great video as usual. Nothing wrong with plastic in my book either. i use hep but a bit of a ball ache if need to demount, Out of interest what fitting do you use? Had the same issue on a bathroom i was doing tiler moved one of the feeds slightly . from then on i use the Marflow Shower PL8 , keeps the pipes dead on and rock solid , stacks of fixing points so easy to get dead level too, no bracket to drill on second fix just the olive and the thread and tighten up and your done. Best £20 i spend on every first fix shower now, so easy and no issues with pipes moving !! Looks great there your doing a great job , i love watching every week so thanks for taking the time to make these videos so many tips that are helpful too. Bring on the next episode 👍😊
Thanks Russell…. Yer I’ve seen those about and look like a great fixing plate to use👍🏼
Me too, I'm a pro bathroom fitter and wouldn't dream of using anything other than a PL8. I make them up in bulk on a piece of ply with the copper drops, every few months to save me time on site.
Nice job mate have the same problem with my Rothenberger pipe slice 👍
Pain isn’t it
Had this issue with a shower a while back where I’d done the first fix and the tiler moved the pipe work (I’d even left a timber with the holes drilled at 150mm centres over the tails which he’d removed (there not being enough room in the wall for a brace) 😖. Long story short, a combination of porcelain tiles and the tiler having packed a load of adhesive in the void meant that the only option was to break out the tiles at 4pm on a Friday to repipe it 😭! Needless to say words were had……
Nightmare mate
Plumb centre do a shower guide set not tried it yet looks handy. 👍
Ive been using insta stik foam to stick shower trays down and it works really well.
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Hi MJ, agreed nothing wrong with plastic unless its floating around in the sea killing critters or someone tries to fit it on to chrome 😞. Personal preference Speedfit for easy demounting.
Also always used to use bracket for shower pipes but good get out of jail. All looking good geezer and catch you in the next one 👌.
Yer those shower brackets are pretty good
Some tray manufacturers,Mira one of them,actually recommend in their installation instructions fixing the tray down with silicone.Not all silicones being equal tho',I've found that acetoxy silicone onto primed ply or chip does not stick very well at all. Better off with a hybrid polymer as you mentioned
Yep some companies are beginning to see the light when it comes to this👍🏼👍🏼
The underside of a mira flight tray is like no other
Hence they say use silicone
Brilliant video as usual mark👍
Thanks Ross 🙌🏼
Great job. Thanks
Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼
Yes mate another cracking video!! 👏
Thanks Alan👍🏼👍🏼
Top Job…..Top Man
Those bathrooms are looking soooooo nice bud 👌🏼
You’re a braver man than me!! I didn’t leave the house until 3pm on Friday with that weather 😂😂
Cheers mate….. it’s gonna be mega when it’s done.
Did leave till 3pm….. You Locksmiths can earn a plumbers dayrate in an hour anyway 😝💰💰
@@MJTiffPlumbing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@brighton_locksmith 😝😝
Definitely going to get some of those sucker pads. Totally agree with using sealant etc and not cement on them trays.
Will make your life a lot easier mate👍🏼👍🏼
Resin trays are supposed to be used with either a sand and cement mix or tile adhesive. Most resin trays will state to not use silicone.
@@sicdoctor why no silicon for holding the tray in position?
@@neiltitmus9744 some state not.
great content again mark i use push fit swell and just bit the bullett and in the press fit gang now well impressed i bought the rothenbourg press gun keep up the good work 👌👊👊
Let me know how you get on mate
@@MJTiffPlumbing will do mark
Great advice to all ,
Thanks Les 👍🏼👍🏼
Never thought of using my sucker whilst sticking a tray down, be doing that next week now
Everyday is a school day mate 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing i always got a sucker to drop my tray his name is Bill,lol
Another great vid mark 👍
Thanks pal 👍🏼
Had a speedfit blow off on a bathroom job second fix not long ago. Luckily it shot across the room into the 1500x900 walk in enclosure and went down the drain and didn't make a mess....😰
How lucky was that 😮😮🤣🙌🏼🙌🏼
Great work mate
Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Best way to keep 150mm centres are either.
1. Use elbows in between the tails so they never move then cut them off when ready to tile etc.
2. Use the template back plates that you can get now.
Only work if you are working on timber framed walls but then no need to sweat that valve won't fit👌👌
Elbows being cut away… that’s when the tiles can move the bloody things🤣🤣
@@MJTiffPlumbing pens who's tiling 😂
Clipped pipework can also move.
Shower back plate valves if you can use them will prevent movement and only around £15.00. Maybe more down in London 🙄😂
Plasterboard and tiles will still mess it up they know the job and they always do lol
I dont like fixing shower pipes too hard its best if they can move a little imo
great video mark how did you work out height of waste on shower tray so it screwed in first time
Thanks mate, the top of the trap was 5mm above the floor level
Great tip mate what height above the bath should the mixer be
Depends on the customer to be honest mate… always check
Shower tails is just one reason why I do my own tiling
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I use speedfit/pushfit all the time, never had any issues with it and like you say if it’s not on show it’s a much easier and cheaper way to pipe up. Especially with the price off copper/fittings at the moment💸😂
Exactly mate…. 👍🏼👍🏼
Copper elbow 64p
Push fit elbow £3
Copper pipe even though it’s hidden will last longer, push fit won’t last as long as has caused me lots of problems
I’ve never had an issue with it in 10years of using it a lot.
Trust me, if people were willing to pay the Labour for the extra time and materials I would fit it copper everywhere but people don’t want to now.
Hi mark,love your channel.always informative & in the "real world"....hope you don't mind me asking,regarding bossing baths, basins,showers waste into soil pipe either vertically or horizontally ,is their any regulations to adhere to ie, distance from toilet outlet or if they should go above or below toilet outlet to prevent smell & back syphoning to baths etc .. cheers col
Thanks Colin.
As all traps have a water seal there is no issues. Reg wise I’m not 100% but I’ve never had an issue with building inspectors etc
@@MJTiffPlumbing thanks for the reply mark,much appreciated.. keep up the great work you do..col
@@colinwilson933 thanks Colin 👍🏼👍🏼
Cheers mate
Thanks mate
Mate, I had no end of issues with the Rothernberger Plasticut Pro(the one the does 32mm and 40mm). Worked fine with 32mm, but tramlined something rotten on 40mm. Ended up getting drop kicked. 🤣
The monument ones seem alright, but they’re separate sizes.
Yer I have a set of the monument ones aswell somewhere
great shower install
Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Pepper bath!!!! Never fitted one but my mate did…… cotton gloves. One finger mark your finished
Yep….. had to be very careful
Good video.
Thanks mate
Mark what shower waste is that plz
I prefer to screw type like that over the Mira one that you get 2 screws with
Think it was the MacAlpin one
Every plumber I know beds them on silicone, the idea of sand and cement is that if the floor cracks it won’t travel into the tray because it will delaminate first. Not known one to crack on silicone yet though to be fair, have seen them get a bit of a rock though on timber floors where the silicones not quite generous enough.
And silicone will eat the washer eventually and the seal will fail over time. They’re not designed to have silicone smeared over them!!
Washers will be fine mate, done this for over 20 years and not had one fail yet…… thanks for watching👍🏼
is there any certain make of plastic plumbing that you prefer to use
I personally prefer to use PolyPlumb from Plumbase
Is there a plumbing code where youdo your plumbing? The venting of a plumbing system is a llot different where I am from. also Saddles are not allowed on DWV systems.
What do you mean by saddles mate??
Where are you from buddy
I was always taught to run my waste directional. So not having double sockets etc
Not sure what you mean?
as always cracking vid m8
Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼
What do you think of the JG inserts with 2 seals on it? It seems the insert head is quite thick and effectively there seems to be less pipe inserted into the fitting. Do you think this may cause any future issues?
I don’t use JG stuff that much to be honest mate, but I have seen what your on about and I’m sure it’s tried and tested ok.
Over the years they have improved push fits
I’m 100 percent certain it’s a improvement on the standard insert
What do you do when the pipes are fixed in a solid wall & off?
Start chopping out😝😝
Hi mate. The knipex bix slice blade is bent. That’s why it spirals on the pipe. Trouble is you try finding replacement blades. 🤨🤨
I will try swapping it, you get a spare with the cutter apparently
I didn’t with mine 🤔. I do love it though
Well done m8 looking good I know it’s only a small run but are you not ment to run the hot on the top and cold on the bottom? Jue to legionella. I could be wrong I’m still leaning
Was my thoughts too. I've been watching too many plumb like Tom videos. 😁 Bit of lagging on the hot would sort it I'd imagine.
I'm just in awe of some things f these plumbers though. I think I've done well changing a tap on my own then watch these. Good luck with your training I start in May all being well. 😊
Lagging stops that being an issue mate and with heat displacement it’s not a problem in most cases. It’s when pipes are strapped together it’s a bigger problem
@@MJTiffPlumbing yh I figured you'd probably lag it especially with having the secondary hot running. 👍
Yeah you don't get the heat transfer or pipe condensation with plastic like you would with copper so it will be fine..
@@micky7028 yep exactly that mate, one of the pros of plastic.
Nice content bud👍🏻 I use CT1 on trays as I feel it has a bit more guts to it if you know what I mean? Have you used BT1 yet? My Rothenburger slices do that from time to time too!
Yep CT1 works a treat👍🏼👍🏼
What’s BT1??
Oh so you hadn’t heard of it either! BT 1 is their answer to anti mould/ fungal. I never knew it existed until Friday but theyre claiming it works! I’ll give it a go on the next shower I install👍🏻
@@diddywright6165 yep, never heard of it…. Will take a look👍🏼👍🏼
What’s with all the different colours of drain pipe? Is it all the same pvc? abs? Just available in different colours for aesthetics?
All the same pipe mate, just different colors to suit different jobs etc, all the same
Must get myself a set of them sucker pads they come down a lot in price since last time I looked as im sick of sore fingers and screwdrivers propping it if ya get me 😂
Treat yourself Alan….. makes life a lot easier👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark.. just doing my bathroom and going to be fitting an 800 x 1200 resin type shower tray.... again instructions say bed on 5mm sand/cement .... however was thinking of using plasterboard adhesive troweled out using a 10mm notched trowel... do you reckon this would work?
I personally wouldn’t use plasterboard dab, I would go for silicone/CT1 or some use tile adhesive.
I think dab sets much to hard for my liking.
@@MJTiffPlumbing ... many thanks, will steer clear.. being the tight arse I am, I was just thinking of using up materials 😉👍
@@jonb8241 🤣🤣…. Yer I get that mate, but it sets SO hard, that would be my concern.
Dry run onto window packers to make level making sure the waste sits nice . Then full bed of tile adhesive 5mm higher than your packers and small bead of ct1 on the waste last thing before you drop it in 👍🏻
Has to be flexible to some degree. Drywall adhesive won’t give you the flex you need. Tile adhesive can work and plenty of people use it but I think the way forward will be polymer glues.
You need to consider whether your on concrete or wooden substrates as well. There is never one solution for stuff on a building site. A lot of the time you have to be adaptive and work problems out as they come up
That plastic circle tool you used to tighten shower waste up was that part of the waste kit or have you bought that ?
Comes with the fitting mate 👍🏼👍🏼
No bother! Handy like no really seen one that comes with it before always use grips
any reason you prefer hep over speedfit? cost?
It’s Polypipe not Hep….. I prefer it as it’s move flexible and not as rigid 👍🏼👍🏼
Did you put the tray down with anything? Just looked like you dropped it in straight on to the board? Normally I fix it down with something if it not on a leg set.
Yer….. as I said in the video I bed it down on Silicone👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing oh sorry missed that bit!
Personally I prefer to bed the shower tray on mortar,seen a few developing a hairline crack because of the silicone.
I use tile adhesive mortar underneath drys and cracks it needs to breath to dry. Unlike tile adhesive it just sticks. I look at that tray as like a massive ceramic floor tile really
was the shower tray bedded down or sat straight on the floor ?
Always bedded down mate
Do you not use wax filled tile drill bits?
Nope…. I’ve used to many over the years and these for the cost are brilliant….
£6 for 10……….🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Great vid…again! Many houses around here lost parts of their roofs due to Eunice, including my neighbour’s, which then landed on my garage roof! Plenty of damage and it has to come off my insurance!!
Anyways, did you use a solvent collar on the shower waste in the floor? Also curious about how you deal with the hole in the damp proof membrane i.e. the blue stuff? Do you have to patch it up, or do you just leave it as it is?
As shown in the video, I bedded it with sand and cement to fill the area.
The waste fitting was a push in internal bung
@@MJTiffPlumbing Thanks for responding and I should’ve been clearer! I was specifically referring to patching- up the damp-proof course before back-filling?
By internal bung, are you referring to a 110mm / 40 mm internal drain connector, like the one that McAlpine sell? Cheers
The damp membrane should be under the insulation really. The membrane over the insulation is usually to stop the screed or concrete flowing under the insulation and making it float. But i could be totally wrong🤣
@@steves1460 did you mean how he converted the compression fit waste pipe to solvent weld ?? I’m curious to
@@boyasaka I was referring to the 110mm pipe. Anyway, the solvent pipe is well-suited to the compression connector on the trap and you’ll have no issues there as it is designed for exactly that reason. The way you convert between different pipe sizes and types is via a compression connector. HTH
Terry you naughty boy.....stop moving the pipes....😁
Hahahaaa
Do you stick the shower tray down?
(With silicone, sand and cement or anything else?)
Yes mate…… as said in the video a few times, it was bedded down on silicone👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks - I miss heard it as the head of silicone around the outside. My bad!
So many different views as to what is the best way to do it!!
@@paulthewitt yep, everyone has there way.
I either use silicone or CT1…. Never had an issue but each to there own👍🏼👍🏼
Hi can you give me the link for the tile drill bits on ebay please.
Search “Tile drill bit” on eBay buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Not sure if Terry the tiler will appreciate all that silicon halfway up the wall!
Terry loves it
I noticed you dont mark.the plastic pipe when putting the fittings on. No biggie, and I know it's a pain, but I taught my lads to always mark the depth of the fitting stop on the pipe so you know its pushed all the way in.
Never have done to be honest, you can feel when they push in and lock together👍🏼👍🏼
Builder must have some serious money 😂
He’s built his portfolio over the last 25years to get to this point….. he’s one of them guys that just grafts and grafts, more at home in his transit then his car…..🙌🏼🙌🏼
What did you do about the knipex cutter did you contact kipex in the end??
No mate, just moved back to my Rorherberg cutters.
@@MJTiffPlumbing I'm having same issue so probably do the same wasn't sure if is a user issue or something that's all cheers for speedy reply
@@cbrowettcrich no worries mate, you could drop them a message on Insgram and see if there is anything they can do maybe??
The Mira shower tray instructions tell you to use silicone sealant to stick them down. As long as you use the manufacturers guidelines there will be no comeback
That’s correct, Mira have now stated that in the installation on a lot of there new shower tray range👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing why, though, did you use silicone on the waste ? They advise you not to? I am fitting one this week and was just going to use the ring washer supplied
@@jonneym I’ve always siliconed wastes into trays, as the washers/rubbers have been known to leak.
Most people silicone waste fittings into trays/basins/baths etc so it’s a proven way of having no leaks.
Each to there own as I always say, this is how I do it👍🏼
Why haven't you debured the pipes after cutting ?
Never ever done it in 25years of plumbing mate…. Never been an issue
Shame you had to cut out the dpm, hope it’s a dpm not a radon barrier anyway!!!
Pretty annoying the trap location wasn’t taken into account when designing the drain locations!
Trap location was taken into account, that’s why it was where it was….. so we can connect on easily.
And that wasnt DPM mate, DPM is UNDER the insulation….. that was the under floor heating covering that was carried through….
@@MJTiffPlumbing every floor is designed different, I can see that’s just screed now after second glance.
Floor system we’re using atm has membrane over the insulation
Don't use knipex cutter for waste pipe, go for rottembergher or monument tools, they are great!
They are all great when they work…..🤣🙄
What happens if the plastic pipe gets frozen you can't take a blow torch to it
It won’t freeze as it’s inside a house and will be lagged….
I’m surprised you’re allowed to use such tight 90deg elbows on the sanitary, and tees instead of wyes for your branch for the sink
Never been a issue to be honest buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Just keeping the comments up 💪🏻 sure it’s going to be a ace vid again 😬
Thanks Mark….. appreciate that mate👍🏼👍🏼
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👍👍👍 Mark 🍻🍻🍻 full moon my arse (_ Y_) plumbers crack😂😂😂😂
did dougy put any cement in that sand. lol
Sucker pads! Why the hell didn’t I think of that before and save my trapped hands, arms and language when trying to lay trays. Next purchase…glazing suckers 👍
Sometimes it’s just too obvious 🤣😉😉
When we price out a job the only difference is often labour and not by much as generally plastic is more expensive than copper down here. I've lost count of the issues in new builds with plastic where the inserts have blown out, either due to pipe ends not being perfectly square,eroding the plastic away and blasting out the fitting. Or more commonly not being able to handle the constant temps of hot water secondaries. Each has benefits and situations it's best for.
You must be getting copper VERY cheap them mate
30m copper is around £100
30m plastic is about £40
I know years ago they used to use metal inserts in plastic pipes and that was a huge issue…. Now it’s all plastic I’ve not had a problem at all.
Like you say they both have there places👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbingJust been using hep20 pipe and fittings and the inserts are metal, they seem like some kind of alloy, were the old type fittings steel ?, hope they are ok.
had to alter 10mm plastic microbore pipes for a towel rad, i used speedfit elbows first of all and found that after fitting i could grab the pipe and pull it apart ! , went and got hep20 elbows and they were more of a positive fit, think i will always use hep20 from now on.
@@edward877 use what you trust and have confidence in mate👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing Yeah Copper is about £90 per 30m but plastic works out at £60 per 30m. By the time you ad the fittings there's not much in it. We're Southern Counties base though where plastic generally is more expensive and copper is generally cheaper than the average.
Once you take into account inserts/fittings etc the price really does just come down to labour for us.
It's actually the plastic inserts on Hep20 pipe that we've recently been seeing the issues with. We've seen it with Speedfit and others before, same fault. Just down to people rushing because of price.
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Do you have an apprentice
I don’t mate….. unfortunatly being a self employed sole trader and with my workload it’s not an option, I would have the time to put into one….. unfortunatly.
I always get asked and have a lot of people asking if they can work with me but what I say is to get on with a company with 5/6+ plumbers so you learn a wide range👍🏼👍🏼
Bloody sparkies are loaded. Have you seen the price of disposable gloves these days 😂
Hahahahaa 🤣🤣
A mear youngster 25 years in the game,42 years this year
48 years in & every day is still a Skool Day for me 👍👍👍
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼…… yep, everyday you learn something new or should at least be open to learning👍🏼👍🏼
@@TheDickPuller very true , these youngsters have got a lot to learn
What do you use to stick tray down if the floor isn't level.
Either get the floor level, if it’s a wooden/board floor I will get it levelled through, if not I would use a base of tile adhesive or CT1👍🏼👍🏼
That shower is way to close to the toilet once the screen goes on
And that’s exactly where the customer wanted it👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing I made that mistake in my bathroom until i actually fitted it and regretted it 🤣
Hi do you water test the trap before install
Don’t really know what you mean????
To test it before installing it, you would just fill it up with water while it’s in your hand!!!
If you mean how do I test the trap WHEN it’s installed…… you don’t as you can see it’s in the floor. You just have to trust your work 👍🏼👍🏼
Nobody believes that you've not had a single shower tray installation issue in 25 years, come on man that's not possible.
Once it in and fitted…. Not an issue….
So did you go to college before u became plumber
Yes mate👍🏼
Why.is the hot.pipe on the bottom i assume you know thats wrong
Because it is……. And it not “wrong”…….
Do you know the temp displacement of those times and how long the run is?????
@MJTiffPlumbing good job you don't do commercial work a risk assessor would pull you up on that