Another example of this would be The Weeknd. He switched up his sound from trilogy to where he is now. A lot of his OG fans complain but he’s one of the biggest artists in the world
I'm one of those day one fans who only liked everything before Kissland. I was mad asl when he switch his style up but I feel like he came back with After Hours and Dawn FM. He's back to doing pop music WITH actual substance and artistry
I disagree a bit. Of course, Peak Weeknd is Trilogy Weeknd. But i feel like he progressed in a way with his music. He’s more experimental with his music and that’s what artists should do more. Now don’t get me wrong, I love the f**k boy version of The Weeknd, but so many OG fans complain about his style, and thats ok. Everyone is going to be like “I miss the old Weeknd” “I miss the old Bruno Mars” “I miss the old Kanye.” And I don’t get it. Just listen to the classics? Lol
@@JMartinJ Dawn FM IMO made me a huge fan again. It wasn’t like I hated his radio hit style, but I just like when he does psychedelic pop. I feel like Abel will only continue to grow from here.
Yeah but the og fans still want the trilogy sound so when they got the hills on BBTM or After Hours they were happy asf, where as the Max Martin pop stuff got a lot of og fans disconnected. There’s def both sides to this story.
The Old Kanye wouldn't be relevant in 2022. How many artists Kanye came up with in the late 90s/Early 2000s are still outselling people 20 years into their career? Kanye is the only one. If Kanye did what the fans wanted his career would be over. Michael Jackson literally had like 5 musical careers because every album was a different mix of genres
Exactly. The “old Kanye” I think it’s safe to say objectively made better music than the current Kanye but the reason Kanye has been a relevant high selling artist for 2 whole decades is because he evolves with every new album release, hence never allowing his style to become stagnant which is what keeps bringing in new fans
@@stefan_4508 His newer work hasn't gotten much traction and influence like his old work has. Its true hes eclectic enough for everybody, but he can't be postponing albums only to take out features, replace tracks, rename the album, change the covers or replace an album entirely. The attention and spotlight is shared with his fashion brand, deals, associations in the fashion industry and involvement with many other artists.
@@laggedonce6105 ur not wrong at all i shouldve said 2016-late 2018 when new patek dropped(shit was fire) i dont like all the new shit he be droppin tho it just doesnt feel the same😔
I disagree with the Uzi playing it safe take, Eternal Atake was completely different from what Uzi dropped before, that’s why it got hated on as soon as it came out and it’s currently doing 4+ billion streams compared to WLR that is doing 1+ billion streams and they were released in the same year. I’m so tired of the narrative that EA wasn’t good or memorable when the numbers back it up. The people that comment Uzi fell off or people on Twitter that hate on Uzi don’t represent even a portion of their overall fanbase. The narrative can really change an overall opinion of something even if the numbers support it
finally someone speaking sense, i also think duplee has a very shallow understanding of „development”, where u either just pull out a new sound out of your ass for the sake of being experimental while ignoring honing your particular style to perfection. This years Uzi E.P and especially songs like Final fantasy show that hes just amazing at producing melodies and the ambiance of his track is really on another lvl
@@mk-ms6hc with that being said, because uzi mastered producing godly melodies, should he switch it up with pink tape, or play it safe? if u think he should switch, how do u think he should execute it?
@@2crovv well for me personally, I dont mind him staying in the lane his in. He does not need to change the producets or the genre completely. My ideal pink tape would be a bit of a darker vibe with more vocal experimentation while still staying in line with what he is good at. I think i should also clarify that change is good i just wanted to say that doing a 180 is not always the right step and what one can call „development” you can do what ur good at while slightly challenging someones pre-conception of what a body of work from you would sound like.
not only do numbers not always = good music, but wlr is a better album. when ea first dropped, everybody loved it and now they dislike it. when wlr dropped, everybody hated it, but now its beloved.
This reminds me of what Kanye said on his VH1 Storytellers back when 808's & Heartbreak dropped: "more than an artist, I'm a real person and real people grow. And I just wanted to sing my growth"
uzi dropped a double album and was gearing up for a big ass tour then c0vid lockdowns put a squash to all that. look up the album release date and then when NYC announced the first lockdowns. idk why everyone seems to ignore this fact
you covered this topic super well, great job duplee; I think people that miss the old kanye just kinda relate with that old average come up that the average joe could have. Watching him from the college dropout rapping about working at the gap and his come up in the rap game, all the way to yeezus. Its a crazy transition and really shows what superstardom can do to somebody. I love both projects for completely different reasons, but you gotta respect the man for always switching it up
X didn’t change. I been with him from 2015, to now. His music has always been a chaotic beauty. You’ve got Look at Me, his most popular song. Fighting, sex, guns. Songs like Riot, which speaks on the violence we put against eachother as humans, then you have songs like Jocelyn Flores which speaks about a loss of a loved one. X has always been that real ass nigga that will speak on anything at any time he wants. He would flex but he’d still be humble enough to say he was just a regular human being and shouldn’t be compared to Tupac or Biggie.
As a Coheed and Cambria fan, I can say this is not the only genre this happens to. So many people want an artist to just make the same album they grew up loving. Hell, I've heard Nine Inch Nails fans say that Trent Reznor made better music when he was on hard drugs and even say that they wish he never got clean. An artist is supposed to evolve. You can voice displeasure, reasonably, but at a point, it should come to "eh, its just not for me" and you should move on.
As both a hiphop and coheed fan, I 100% agree but since I only started listening to em recently their newer stuff is some of my favorite. I don’t think they could ever do an album like Second Stage again. But I also grew up with a lot of Ye, Lupe, Jay-Z, etc and the nostalgia I have for their 2000s stuff makes me suuper biased, but I always knew that there was something inherently off with “I miss the old __•
WLR is still underrated, even with that new wave of appreciation, it's still more likely to be labelled "wierd/different" rather than "revolutionary/creative"
I miss the old Kanye, the writin music Kanye, the rapper out inspiring other's views Kanye I hate the new Kanye, the hate the jews Kanye, the Hitler rootin hate spewin on the news Kanye 😔
I think Logic is a good example, he really fell off by trying to make music that would be more popular and get more views but not necessarily what he was passionate about. When he released No Pressure it was a return to form. A lot of fans say the old logic is back, I disagree. It doesn't sound the same, it sounds like the new Logic is passionate about making music again and that's what was missing, not his old sound or anything else, just passion and love in the music.
I agree with this video but the Uzi part simply isnt true, Eternal Atake doesnt sound like 2016 or 2017 Uzi, that's pretty evident on songs like Baby Pluto, You Better Move, That Way, etc... and LUVVTW2 had some old songs which was cool but also new songs which did really well like Yessirskii and Wassup
Fr, these people just go with the narrative that’s being spewed on Twitter without even listening to it, EA got hated off the start because it didn’t sound like 2016-17. It’s currently doing 4 billion + streams but is considered “mid” Twitter doesn’t represent a huge part of ones fanbase. The narrative controls everything even with the numbers to back it
I agree that the sounds aren’t the same but it’s no a major switch in style. Him constantly saying that he’s clinging to the 2016 era isn’t helping the perception of that either and he’s always been my favorite if not top 3 artists
yes i miss old kanye. Graduation is still one of the few albums i can listen to more than 50% of the album because of how good the songs sounded. But people change, and im not mad he changed his style. Im not even dissapointed. Ill still listen to graduation, because its so good. Now if kanye were to go back and delete graduation, id be pissed af, cause its a big part of my childhood, and its still big now. The only style that can keep the same style forever is fucking country music. Edit: great, now hes lost his fucking mind, and im gonna look weird for listening to graduation.
I think at the very least, artists shouldn't cut out their old songs from their live sets. Evolve all you want, but try to perform a little something from every phase of your career so everyone goes home happy.
While I do prefer Tylers old music (Bastard - Goblin) because of how hungry he sounded in those albums and how much emotion and raw energy he put into those two albums, I’m glad he grew as an artist. A lot has changed for him since those days and he finally got the recognition he always wanted so there was never any point of him staying stuck in the past. Overall, there is definitely nothing wrong with preferring an artists older music style and newer = better isn’t something everyone agrees with overall.
Tyler has evolved so much. Tyler was in a dark time during the old periods and I am glad he is finally making the music he wants. Call me if you get lost and Igor are so good.
Glad to see you give content creation a go. I believe I am late to the party. I’ve been following you for your fantano reaction clips. Chase your dreams. Ironically I currently intend to stay for the ride.
Yeah Kanye is way bigger now but every album he's put out over the last decade, I enjoyed less and less songs, and I'm now at the point where he puts out an album and I don't like anything on it enough to save it to my playlist, not to mention he's gone completely fucking crazy.
This is so true and I agree even more with the last part of the video…. Change is evolution and growth but I’ve noticed people fear change that’s why they never make the switch, all the most relevant people have reinvented themselves or re created themselves. Changing is a sign of bravery, courage and fearlessness and those are all traits people look up to and admire
wish uzi would stop listening to hes fans cuase they really don't know wtf they want the fans are so stuck with hes old sound but when he drops similar to the old days they say it's trash but nowadays uzi is evolving and im glad that he's finally doing it
Okay but fans do know about likes and where it stems from the artist's work. Introduce awareness and maturity, suddenly the artist is devoid of their talents or is very shallow than initially perceived. This is why the phrase "I miss the old--" floods the room.
friendly reminder there's nothing wrong with falling out of love with artists and their new releases. You can absolutely change your view on a musicians catalogue as they release new stuff and thats ok. It's not the artists fault and it's not yours either, just how art appreciation goes. Don't let your tastes in music be anything more than just albums or songs you like. They should never define you as a person
„If you Look at an interview from me from 10 years ago, everybody say‘s (I Love that Interview). People didn’t love it back then thought. Cause i was speaking to the future.“ - K.West in 2013 I think that's why Kanye is annoyed with "I miss the old Kanye" comments. Because at that time many people didn't find him serious about his rapping. He was doubted that he would do fashion. The 808 & Yeezus album was totally hated. In most of the things he predicted, he was a meme. And now everything has manifested and people say "We have always loved it. Since day 1." It's like "Why do you love the 808 & Yeezus albums now? Because it's old?" Reminds me when Outkast came into the rap game and who were treated disrespectfully because the were ATL rappers. Now they belong to the top 5-3 rap group of all time for many.
The "Should you please your fans?" question is incredible easy to answer. No, if you are a true artist, you should only follow your own artistic ideas and vision. If anyone likes it, doesn't really matter, but if they do it's just a bonus. If you want to specifically gain fame or make money, then the question becomes difficult.
I miss the Old Kanye, Eminem, Andre 3000 etc. because I miss what they were able to create. I miss when Kanye would make MBDTF or Late Registration because those are incredible albums, their both very different But i like them because they were made by the Old Kanye, The new Kanye maked Jesus is King and Donda and although I like Donda, It's not on the level of a project that Old Kanye would have made. It's the same With Em, I miss the Old Eminem because He would make When I'm gone, I am, Lose Yourself and Stan, amazing, quality music and ever since curtain call he makes Bornana or Ruins a Rihanna song. Finally with Andre 3000, I miss the Old Andre 3000 simply because he could get on a microphone and make an album with Big Boi, that is all I want, not for him to basically retire after dropping a dope Album where he did evolve and shift his style. I think the "I miss the Old" can be over used, like with all the examples in this video, but I think for some It's the best way to give your opinion on an Artist, good video tho. Thank you for my Ted Talk
Joji is in my opinion the single greatest career switch of the 21st century because he had been planting the seeds for his eventual change up way back in the beginning. Bro's first album may be a meme album sure but that doesn't change the fact that it was a real album that charted in the top 70 I think of the Billboard hot 200. When he saw that his music was doing great, he decided it was finally time to pursue his original dream of being an artist and slowly ended the story of Francis of the filth and now look at him! His first album "Ballads 1" was highly regarded as a great album by critics alike who heard it, and now he's considered one of the best and most successful artists in the world with multiple Hot 100 breakthroughs including the critically acclaimed and highly praised "Glimpse of us" which peaked all the way at no. 8 on the charts.
Quadeca is another artist that was big in the UA-cam scene and considered as the best UA-cam rapper, but has COMPLETELY reimagined himself with WAYYY better production, and just a higher quality of sound, not to mention him doing it all himself. Although he was considered the best UA-cam rapper, if he stayed musically where he was with generally decent beats and vocals he definitely musically wouldn't be where he is now. It also think he'll have album of the year this year
It’s just the relationship with the music or whatever it may be at that time. But I understand who this is directed toward. The quote, “relatable,” and probably hype beast kid who says, “I miss the old ______!”
growing up a late millenial i felt a lot of alienation during the unironic "only 90's kid will remember" era of the internet, because i used to like many of the media like cartoons/moveis/vidya/music early millenials liked, but then they also liked to shit on newer stuff i *also* liked, and i was like "yo wtf i respect your thang why you can't respect mine?" that's when i realized that such wave of nostalgia was literally just a product of the alienation they themselves feel because the cultural landscape they grew with was washed away by newer stuff that didn't appeal to them anymore, and furthermore i realized that this process was inevitably gonna happen to me as well. As such i've always strived to be humble about new stuff coming out and be critical of the old stuff even if it gives me a lot of nostalgia. Today's newer cultural innovations i'm out of the loop on are the things that current kids are growing up with and will feel nostalgic for and there ain't no reason to hate on that, the wolrd keeps on changing and it's better to embrace it
Just saying, The Beatles had the exact same kind of backlash then. Everyone missed the 63-66 pop stuff they were doing, but all of that was really schlocky stuff compared to what they would go on to make. Now all you hear today is "The Beatles later years were their best" and it is true. The fans would eventually grow old, have children that loved new Beatles, and maybe even look back on that "bad stuff" and realize it's greatness finally. Fans don't know what they are talking about, no matter what the artist does. It's always an opposed response to something else that the artist does.
Gonna be honest I never listened to the music I listen to now when I was a kid but everything I listen too is from like 1995-2014. As such I can discount nostalgia as I was only introduced to the music I like within the last like 3 years
This is facts, artists like Brockhamptom deserve sooooo much better than the fanbase they got. Personally i prefer joey bada$$ older stuff to his new album, but that doesn't mean i cant enjoy what i can from it. As long as i find it enjoyable, then i don't mind what direction an artist goes in. If i don't enjoy it, i can say im not a fan of it and move onto something i do like, pretty simple.
With Kanye, it’s not even nostalgia. His music has evolved so much, his new stuff is unrecognisable from his old stuff. So obviously the fans who fell in love with him back them aren’t gonna be as positive about his music now. Because it’s basically just a different artist making different music
Totally agree with what you're saying in the video, but, I do miss the old Kanye and Eminem. The old Kanye wasn't a massive asshole and the old Eminem was just, like, good.
That „oLd“ kanye you say wasn’t a massive asshole was always like a man who speak to his mind. Like didn’t you watch the Jeen-Yuhs documentary? What’s the fucking difference? Bcs of his Productions,Albums in his earlier days? And Yeah Em dissapoints in someways, but he tries to involve (Even his last few Albums aren‘t great at all). At least he‘s isn’t a Oldhead who complain everything what‘s new & is a OG who tries things.💯
Great video... so many people my age say they want the old Uzi, the old Bladee, the old Kdot, the old Suicideboys... to an extent I wish I had more Uzi x Carti... but the artist is more important. Imagine making a hit off a whim and for the next 10-20 years you have it hear it and play it at concerts. Not sure about y'all but I'm over things I did a few months ago... just be happy they were there at the right time and made something good enough for you to enjoy
The one that bothers me the most is The Weeknd. People desperately want the sound of his first 3 mixtapes back and idk why. Yeah it’s great but he was practically homeless living a really dark lifestyle, and he’s practically making movies with his albums! I will never understand this at all
The old Kanye was so likeable, when he talks at the end of the song 'last call' he seems genuinely grateful to his fans. Money changed him a lot, now he's just an obnoxious weirdo and an attention seeker who says anything for attention
I don't need Old Eminem. I wanna hear him go on Alchemist Beats and a 1 2 DJ Premier Beats. Stop tryin to be Funny, cut down on Fast Rapping and Shorten your Verses 😕
Exactly, I'm not even mad at the current Eminem, I just want good Rap music with good lyrics, not unnecessary rhyme scheme and fast rapping, not to mention the corny dad bars smh
I think about it this way, I love so much old gunna, thug and baby but I can’t stand their new shit but it doesn’t sound much different ya know and I think if I heard it back when I first heard their old shit I like I would’ve liked it, it’s all about the moment you listen to a song and exactly how it makes you feel.
the only reason i dont really say i miss the old ___ is because that person would probably be fucking dead if they didnt change or there is a reason that they changed in '07 eminem wouldve died if he was 2 hours later to the hospital
I have no idea why but I always keeps coming back to watch this video. This really speaks to me. BTW, what is this 50 cent instrumental at 8:51? edit: Never mind, I've found it. Just a lil bit by 50 cents
"How many unsuccessful switch ups have we seen recently?" Keeping it just in the hip-hop territory Logic- Supermarket Vic Mensa - 93 Punks Chance The Rapper- The Big Day Lil Wayne- Rebirth G-Easy-that terrible rock album that i can't even remember the title of Big K.R.I.T-digital roses don't die Drake-Honestly Nevermind Look ,I'm not saying that artists shouldn't evolve, evolving is the most crucial part to building a legacy, but when you decide to switch gears make sure you're actually equipped or else you might put out you're worse project ever
I agree, the focus should always be on the quality imo, just because you "switch up" old shit doesnt make it good, you have to master the execution well. Basically i care for one thing, is this enjoyable for me? I am within my right to express my opinion, but artists should just focus on mastering whatever it is they are going for regardless of what fans think.
@@icytidal3228 I actually didn't mind it ,it was pretty cathy, not his best but it's ok , but still the backlash to it was pretty huge, most of KRIT's hard-core fans did not fuck with that project, that's why i included it.
"I miss the old _" was already certified boomer thing now. Sorry, old figures fans, things keep changing everyday, pals. If only we ever had a time machine IRL though
To be honest MGK had the most succesful transition. I mean the way he slowly introduced it through his quarantaine videos was awesome and I think that tracks and covers he released during that time are fire af. I believe that if he wasn't such a narcissist he would be extremally respected now.
He makes pretty shitty pop punk. There's literally no reason to listen to it over the classics outside of the occasional hip hop influenced thing. There's nothing he does that other artists in the genre don't do better, and it's so generic that there's barely anything unique to cling to.
Which artists do you enjoy less now compared to their older work?
eminem
Kanye
@@marshallbeck9101 i know where you live
Drake
Em, Kanye, Logic, Joey Badass, Earl Sweatshirt, The Game. There’s a lot tbh, Doesn’t mean all their new shit is bad, I just prefer their older work.
I think we miss the old Kanye more than ever now
bro.....
@@ChillChrill what😂
@@ChillChrillYou don’t know don’t you
Arguable
I hate the new Kanye, trash talks the jews Kanye, Alex Jones confused by Kanye, what pills you do Kanye?
Another example of this would be The Weeknd. He switched up his sound from trilogy to where he is now. A lot of his OG fans complain but he’s one of the biggest artists in the world
He litterally fortold this in the trilogy
I'm one of those day one fans who only liked everything before Kissland. I was mad asl when he switch his style up but I feel like he came back with After Hours and Dawn FM. He's back to doing pop music WITH actual substance and artistry
I disagree a bit. Of course, Peak Weeknd is Trilogy Weeknd. But i feel like he progressed in a way with his music. He’s more experimental with his music and that’s what artists should do more. Now don’t get me wrong, I love the f**k boy version of The Weeknd, but so many OG fans complain about his style, and thats ok. Everyone is going to be like “I miss the old Weeknd” “I miss the old Bruno Mars” “I miss the old Kanye.” And I don’t get it. Just listen to the classics? Lol
@@JMartinJ Dawn FM IMO made me a huge fan again. It wasn’t like I hated his radio hit style, but I just like when he does psychedelic pop. I feel like Abel will only continue to grow from here.
Yeah but the og fans still want the trilogy sound so when they got the hills on BBTM or After Hours they were happy asf, where as the Max Martin pop stuff got a lot of og fans disconnected. There’s def both sides to this story.
The Old Kanye wouldn't be relevant in 2022. How many artists Kanye came up with in the late 90s/Early 2000s are still outselling people 20 years into their career? Kanye is the only one. If Kanye did what the fans wanted his career would be over. Michael Jackson literally had like 5 musical careers because every album was a different mix of genres
And the old Kanye wouldn‘t made a Top 10 Music Album ever💯
Exactly. The “old Kanye” I think it’s safe to say objectively made better music than the current Kanye but the reason Kanye has been a relevant high selling artist for 2 whole decades is because he evolves with every new album release, hence never allowing his style to become stagnant which is what keeps bringing in new fans
@@stefan_4508 *old Kanye objectively made pop friendly music
@@stefan_4508 His newer work hasn't gotten much traction and influence like his old work has. Its true hes eclectic enough for everybody, but he can't be postponing albums only to take out features, replace tracks, rename the album, change the covers or replace an album entirely.
The attention and spotlight is shared with his fashion brand, deals, associations in the fashion industry and involvement with many other artists.
so fuckin what its all numbers to yall kanye is s billionaire rn and he'd still be really rich if he kept the good style
I think missing the old Kanye is justifiable now lmao.
that interview is wild graduation aint cutting it anymore
he ain’t say nothin wrong
@@kidkhy1864 found the nazi
@@kidkhy1864 shut the hell up!!!
@@StarKurusu who are you to say i can’t speak my opinion
I love how even not Uzi fans appreciate his 2016 era
his best album covers
Uhh uzi peaked in 2016, only real fans fuck w old uzi
@@kortello2232 2017 is better imo, xo and lir2 dropped at that time. i love his new sound tho cant wait for pink tape
@@laggedonce6105 ur not wrong at all i shouldve said 2016-late 2018 when new patek dropped(shit was fire) i dont like all the new shit he be droppin tho it just doesnt feel the same😔
@@kortello2232 You’re an example of what this video is talking about lmao 💀💀
Oh boy do I miss the old Kanye now.
Damn this man is determined to utterly destroy our nostalgia. I fuck with it tho
in contrary, how that shit would be nostalgia if your artist will keep making same stuff
I disagree with the Uzi playing it safe take, Eternal Atake was completely different from what Uzi dropped before, that’s why it got hated on as soon as it came out and it’s currently doing 4+ billion streams compared to WLR that is doing 1+ billion streams and they were released in the same year. I’m so tired of the narrative that EA wasn’t good or memorable when the numbers back it up. The people that comment Uzi fell off or people on Twitter that hate on Uzi don’t represent even a portion of their overall fanbase. The narrative can really change an overall opinion of something even if the numbers support it
finally someone speaking sense, i also think duplee has a very shallow understanding of „development”, where u either just pull out a new sound out of your ass for the sake of being experimental while ignoring honing your particular style to perfection. This years Uzi E.P and especially songs like Final fantasy show that hes just amazing at producing melodies and the ambiance of his track is really on another lvl
@@mk-ms6hc with that being said, because uzi mastered producing godly melodies, should he switch it up with pink tape, or play it safe? if u think he should switch, how do u think he should execute it?
@@2crovv well for me personally, I dont mind him staying in the lane his in. He does not need to change the producets or the genre completely. My ideal pink tape would be a bit of a darker vibe with more vocal experimentation while still staying in line with what he is good at. I think i should also clarify that change is good i just wanted to say that doing a 180 is not always the right step and what one can call „development” you can do what ur good at while slightly challenging someones pre-conception of what a body of work from you would sound like.
i agree
not only do numbers not always = good music, but wlr is a better album. when ea first dropped, everybody loved it and now they dislike it. when wlr dropped, everybody hated it, but now its beloved.
you opened my mind fr.... creativity really isn't about playing safe and repeating your old stuff but evolving through creating new material
THANK YOU for making videos on these fye topics that other youtubers don't usually speak about man😤💯
I do actually miss the old kanye now
This reminds me of what Kanye said on his VH1 Storytellers back when 808's & Heartbreak dropped: "more than an artist, I'm a real person and real people grow. And I just wanted to sing my growth"
"I miss the old Sosa, for what though, thats a crazy loony dirty cut throught" Chief Keef - Self
As of right now yeah i miss the old kanye.
uzi dropped a double album and was gearing up for a big ass tour then c0vid lockdowns put a squash to all that. look up the album release date and then when NYC announced the first lockdowns. idk why everyone seems to ignore this fact
ong bro people r just hatin on ea
@@ishydubs5003 I don't get it, I actually fw EA heavy
@@one_of_wun same
@@one_of_wun EA fucking slaps I hate that people say it’s Uzis worst album
@@one_of_wun FRFR ea sports is fire
This didn't age well lol
LL Cool J is a great example too, he's an 80s legend and he transitioned his music in 2000s perfectly and got bigger.
you covered this topic super well, great job duplee; I think people that miss the old kanye just kinda relate with that old average come up that the average joe could have. Watching him from the college dropout rapping about working at the gap and his come up in the rap game, all the way to yeezus. Its a crazy transition and really shows what superstardom can do to somebody. I love both projects for completely different reasons, but you gotta respect the man for always switching it up
X didn’t change. I been with him from 2015, to now. His music has always been a chaotic beauty. You’ve got Look at Me, his most popular song. Fighting, sex, guns. Songs like Riot, which speaks on the violence we put against eachother as humans, then you have songs like Jocelyn Flores which speaks about a loss of a loved one. X has always been that real ass nigga that will speak on anything at any time he wants. He would flex but he’d still be humble enough to say he was just a regular human being and shouldn’t be compared to Tupac or Biggie.
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Hes been dead for a while just fyi
@@yokez I think he knows that
@@yokez No shit.
2016 and 2018 x not the same thing
Ok but after that Alex Jones interview I think we can all agree that we miss The Old Kanye...
As a Coheed and Cambria fan, I can say this is not the only genre this happens to. So many people want an artist to just make the same album they grew up loving. Hell, I've heard Nine Inch Nails fans say that Trent Reznor made better music when he was on hard drugs and even say that they wish he never got clean.
An artist is supposed to evolve. You can voice displeasure, reasonably, but at a point, it should come to "eh, its just not for me" and you should move on.
As both a hiphop and coheed fan, I 100% agree but since I only started listening to em recently their newer stuff is some of my favorite. I don’t think they could ever do an album like Second Stage again. But I also grew up with a lot of Ye, Lupe, Jay-Z, etc and the nostalgia I have for their 2000s stuff makes me suuper biased, but I always knew that there was something inherently off with “I miss the old __•
WLR is still underrated, even with that new wave of appreciation, it's still more likely to be labelled "wierd/different" rather than "revolutionary/creative"
I miss the old Kanye, the writin music Kanye, the rapper out inspiring other's views Kanye
I hate the new Kanye, the hate the jews Kanye, the Hitler rootin hate spewin on the news Kanye 😔
Yes but the video ain't even talking about that
im glad uzi stop the whole 2016 shi and now is evolving
I think Logic is a good example, he really fell off by trying to make music that would be more popular and get more views but not necessarily what he was passionate about. When he released No Pressure it was a return to form. A lot of fans say the old logic is back, I disagree. It doesn't sound the same, it sounds like the new Logic is passionate about making music again and that's what was missing, not his old sound or anything else, just passion and love in the music.
Literally listening to TITS and can appreciate it's the only album like it and can visit his music with a variety
I think people forget the artist doesn’t have full control over they’re music. Most big artists are slaves to they’re record label.
I agree with this video but the Uzi part simply isnt true, Eternal Atake doesnt sound like 2016 or 2017 Uzi, that's pretty evident on songs like Baby Pluto, You Better Move, That Way, etc... and LUVVTW2 had some old songs which was cool but also new songs which did really well like Yessirskii and Wassup
Fr, these people just go with the narrative that’s being spewed on Twitter without even listening to it, EA got hated off the start because it didn’t sound like 2016-17. It’s currently doing 4 billion + streams but is considered “mid” Twitter doesn’t represent a huge part of ones fanbase. The narrative controls everything even with the numbers to back it
I agree that the sounds aren’t the same but it’s no a major switch in style. Him constantly saying that he’s clinging to the 2016 era isn’t helping the perception of that either and he’s always been my favorite if not top 3 artists
Eternal atake was a bland mainstream album for me, prices and p2 were the only ones that sounded like old uzi, and those were the best songs.
@@OVO-Adolf that’s kap asf
yes i miss old kanye. Graduation is still one of the few albums i can listen to more than 50% of the album because of how good the songs sounded. But people change, and im not mad he changed his style. Im not even dissapointed. Ill still listen to graduation, because its so good. Now if kanye were to go back and delete graduation, id be pissed af, cause its a big part of my childhood, and its still big now. The only style that can keep the same style forever is fucking country music.
Edit: great, now hes lost his fucking mind, and im gonna look weird for listening to graduation.
he truly did make graduation
@@wabbajocky8235 source?
I think at the very least, artists shouldn't cut out their old songs from their live sets. Evolve all you want, but try to perform a little something from every phase of your career so everyone goes home happy.
If you want a new perspective:
You are asking someone to forget about their growth every time you ask for the 'old' version back.
For a channel your size the quality is WAY above anything else I’ve seen. Keep up the grind 🔥
While I do prefer Tylers old music (Bastard - Goblin) because of how hungry he sounded in those albums and how much emotion and raw energy he put into those two albums, I’m glad he grew as an artist. A lot has changed for him since those days and he finally got the recognition he always wanted so there was never any point of him staying stuck in the past. Overall, there is definitely nothing wrong with preferring an artists older music style and newer = better isn’t something everyone agrees with overall.
Tyler has evolved so much. Tyler was in a dark time during the old periods and I am glad he is finally making the music he wants. Call me if you get lost and Igor are so good.
I was for real saying Carti ruined Christmas and now he’s my all time 2nd most listened to artist 💀
I listened to wlr before die lit and playboi carti and it probably made me like it more cuz I had a first impression on carti
He made graduation
He made graduation
He made graduation
*He made graduation*
Glad to see you give content creation a go. I believe I am late to the party. I’ve been following you for your fantano reaction clips. Chase your dreams. Ironically I currently intend to stay for the ride.
Yeah Kanye is way bigger now but every album he's put out over the last decade, I enjoyed less and less songs, and I'm now at the point where he puts out an album and I don't like anything on it enough to save it to my playlist, not to mention he's gone completely fucking crazy.
Then that’s your opinion because he’s improved a lot
Apart from crazy he is pretty crazy
@@turt3lz486 yeah it's all a matter of opinion but I guess my point is that people who say "I miss the old.." are valid
This is so true and I agree even more with the last part of the video…. Change is evolution and growth but I’ve noticed people fear change that’s why they never make the switch, all the most relevant people have reinvented themselves or re created themselves. Changing is a sign of bravery, courage and fearlessness and those are all traits people look up to and admire
his lil baby take was spot on after his new albumn ngl.
I miss the old SNEAKO
wish uzi would stop listening to hes fans cuase they really don't know wtf they want the fans are so stuck with hes old sound but when he drops similar to the old days they say it's trash but nowadays uzi is evolving and im glad that he's finally doing it
i miss the old duplee
“I miss the old _____” said by someone who a wasn’t around for the old stuff
KSI is the Kanye West of UA-cam
My dumbass was bobbing my head the whole time to the background music. Glad I found this channel
Okay but fans do know about likes and where it stems from the artist's work. Introduce awareness and maturity, suddenly the artist is devoid of their talents or is very shallow than initially perceived. This is why the phrase "I miss the old--" floods the room.
friendly reminder there's nothing wrong with falling out of love with artists and their new releases. You can absolutely change your view on a musicians catalogue as they release new stuff and thats ok. It's not the artists fault and it's not yours either, just how art appreciation goes. Don't let your tastes in music be anything more than just albums or songs you like. They should never define you as a person
best video i've seen on my home page in a long time. keep it up!
I miss the old Kanye 😢
I've learned this lesson with video games early on and other experiences, and I 100% agree this.
„If you Look at an interview from me from 10 years ago, everybody say‘s (I Love that Interview). People didn’t love it back then thought. Cause i was speaking to the future.“ - K.West in 2013
I think that's why Kanye is annoyed with "I miss the old Kanye" comments. Because at that time many people didn't find him serious about his rapping. He was doubted that he would do fashion. The 808 & Yeezus album was totally hated. In most of the things he predicted, he was a meme. And now everything has manifested and people say "We have always loved it. Since day 1." It's like "Why do you love the 808 & Yeezus albums now? Because it's old?"
Reminds me when Outkast came into the rap game and who were treated disrespectfully because the were ATL rappers. Now they belong to the top 5-3 rap group of all time for many.
The "Should you please your fans?" question is incredible easy to answer. No, if you are a true artist, you should only follow your own artistic ideas and vision. If anyone likes it, doesn't really matter, but if they do it's just a bonus. If you want to specifically gain fame or make money, then the question becomes difficult.
I completely agree with 90% of what you said. I've been saying this shit for years.
I miss the old kanye, the 2021 and back kanye.
I miss the Old Kanye, Eminem, Andre 3000 etc. because I miss what they were able to create. I miss when Kanye would make MBDTF or Late Registration because those are incredible albums, their both very different But i like them because they were made by the Old Kanye, The new Kanye maked Jesus is King and Donda and although I like Donda, It's not on the level of a project that Old Kanye would have made. It's the same With Em, I miss the Old Eminem because He would make When I'm gone, I am, Lose Yourself and Stan, amazing, quality music and ever since curtain call he makes Bornana or Ruins a Rihanna song. Finally with Andre 3000, I miss the Old Andre 3000 simply because he could get on a microphone and make an album with Big Boi, that is all I want, not for him to basically retire after dropping a dope Album where he did evolve and shift his style. I think the "I miss the Old" can be over used, like with all the examples in this video, but I think for some It's the best way to give your opinion on an Artist, good video tho.
Thank you for my Ted Talk
Joji is in my opinion the single greatest career switch of the 21st century because he had been planting the seeds for his eventual change up way back in the beginning. Bro's first album may be a meme album sure but that doesn't change the fact that it was a real album that charted in the top 70 I think of the Billboard hot 200. When he saw that his music was doing great, he decided it was finally time to pursue his original dream of being an artist and slowly ended the story of Francis of the filth and now look at him! His first album "Ballads 1" was highly regarded as a great album by critics alike who heard it, and now he's considered one of the best and most successful artists in the world with multiple Hot 100 breakthroughs including the critically acclaimed and highly praised "Glimpse of us" which peaked all the way at no. 8 on the charts.
Quadeca is another artist that was big in the UA-cam scene and considered as the best UA-cam rapper, but has COMPLETELY reimagined himself with WAYYY better production, and just a higher quality of sound, not to mention him doing it all himself. Although he was considered the best UA-cam rapper, if he stayed musically where he was with generally decent beats and vocals he definitely musically wouldn't be where he is now. It also think he'll have album of the year this year
HONEY WAKE UP NEW DUPLEE JUST DROPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s just the relationship with the music or whatever it may be at that time. But I understand who this is directed toward. The quote, “relatable,” and probably hype beast kid who says, “I miss the old ______!”
I miss the old kanye, you know before he started to support nazis.
The evolution of your channel is really impressive man
WLR is the greatest album of all time ngl
growing up a late millenial i felt a lot of alienation during the unironic "only 90's kid will remember" era of the internet, because i used to like many of the media like cartoons/moveis/vidya/music early millenials liked, but then they also liked to shit on newer stuff i *also* liked, and i was like "yo wtf i respect your thang why you can't respect mine?" that's when i realized that such wave of nostalgia was literally just a product of the alienation they themselves feel because the cultural landscape they grew with was washed away by newer stuff that didn't appeal to them anymore, and furthermore i realized that this process was inevitably gonna happen to me as well. As such i've always strived to be humble about new stuff coming out and be critical of the old stuff even if it gives me a lot of nostalgia. Today's newer cultural innovations i'm out of the loop on are the things that current kids are growing up with and will feel nostalgic for and there ain't no reason to hate on that, the wolrd keeps on changing and it's better to embrace it
I miss MF DOOM 😥
You’re one of the best at this format. Keep it up bro!!
Just saying, The Beatles had the exact same kind of backlash then. Everyone missed the 63-66 pop stuff they were doing, but all of that was really schlocky stuff compared to what they would go on to make. Now all you hear today is "The Beatles later years were their best" and it is true. The fans would eventually grow old, have children that loved new Beatles, and maybe even look back on that "bad stuff" and realize it's greatness finally. Fans don't know what they are talking about, no matter what the artist does. It's always an opposed response to something else that the artist does.
Thank you so fucking much for putting this out.
Gonna be honest I never listened to the music I listen to now when I was a kid but everything I listen too is from like 1995-2014. As such I can discount nostalgia as I was only introduced to the music I like within the last like 3 years
This is facts, artists like Brockhamptom deserve sooooo much better than the fanbase they got.
Personally i prefer joey bada$$ older stuff to his new album, but that doesn't mean i cant enjoy what i can from it.
As long as i find it enjoyable, then i don't mind what direction an artist goes in. If i don't enjoy it, i can say im not a fan of it and move onto something i do like, pretty simple.
such a W video
With Kanye, it’s not even nostalgia. His music has evolved so much, his new stuff is unrecognisable from his old stuff. So obviously the fans who fell in love with him back them aren’t gonna be as positive about his music now. Because it’s basically just a different artist making different music
didn’t age well
amazing editing man awesome job great vid
"Industry rule 4081, your new shit aint as good as your old shit till your new shit is your old shit son" - Logic
Totally agree with what you're saying in the video, but, I do miss the old Kanye and Eminem.
The old Kanye wasn't a massive asshole and the old Eminem was just, like, good.
Bullshit, Kanye was always an asshole that's apart of his appeal, you just didn't see it then
old kanye was still an asshole, he just didn’t have the outlet to express it
That „oLd“ kanye you say wasn’t a massive asshole was always like a man who speak to his mind. Like didn’t you watch the Jeen-Yuhs documentary? What’s the fucking difference? Bcs of his Productions,Albums in his earlier days?
And Yeah Em dissapoints in someways, but he tries to involve (Even his last few Albums aren‘t great at all). At least he‘s isn’t a Oldhead who complain everything what‘s new & is a OG who tries things.💯
True
@- Cdawgg - this aged very well
Great video... so many people my age say they want the old Uzi, the old Bladee, the old Kdot, the old Suicideboys... to an extent I wish I had more Uzi x Carti... but the artist is more important. Imagine making a hit off a whim and for the next 10-20 years you have it hear it and play it at concerts. Not sure about y'all but I'm over things I did a few months ago... just be happy they were there at the right time and made something good enough for you to enjoy
The reality is all the important artists are getting old and the new ones don’t have much to offer artistically.
A very important topic 🔥🔥
The one that bothers me the most is The Weeknd. People desperately want the sound of his first 3 mixtapes back and idk why. Yeah it’s great but he was practically homeless living a really dark lifestyle, and he’s practically making movies with his albums! I will never understand this at all
The old Kanye was so likeable, when he talks at the end of the song 'last call' he seems genuinely grateful to his fans. Money changed him a lot, now he's just an obnoxious weirdo and an attention seeker who says anything for attention
westside gunn sample in the beginning so clean, gon go over a lot of ppls heads, he top 5 rn tho
The only time the “I want the old Kanye” complaint works is while listening to “closed on Sunday’s”
Wow you mean we have nostalgic biases, damn.... who knew.
I don't need Old Eminem. I wanna hear him go on Alchemist Beats and a 1 2 DJ Premier Beats. Stop tryin to be Funny, cut down on Fast Rapping and Shorten your Verses 😕
Exactly, I'm not even mad at the current Eminem, I just want good Rap music with good lyrics, not unnecessary rhyme scheme and fast rapping, not to mention the corny dad bars smh
@@nknewknowledge2678 Same here 👏🏿👏🏿
@@nknewknowledge2678 and the awful hooks, he can not sing, and can’t write great hook. Hooks are always his weakest aspect, I said it.
Ayo em x alchemist would be some serious heat, why cant we get this? 😭😭😭😭
@@sunflowersamurai10 Em
Speedin' bullet 2 heaven is a masterpiece
I think about it this way, I love so much old gunna, thug and baby but I can’t stand their new shit but it doesn’t sound much different ya know and I think if I heard it back when I first heard their old shit I like I would’ve liked it, it’s all about the moment you listen to a song and exactly how it makes you feel.
Red hot chili peppers been playing the same so g for 30 years. It's a joke of a caricature at this point.
the only reason i dont really say i miss the old ___ is because that person would probably be fucking dead if they didnt change or there is a reason that they changed
in '07 eminem wouldve died if he was 2 hours later to the hospital
good video
I have no idea why but I always keeps coming back to watch this video. This really speaks to me.
BTW, what is this 50 cent instrumental at 8:51?
edit: Never mind, I've found it. Just a lil bit by 50 cents
bro used die hard for the intro
"How many unsuccessful switch ups have we seen recently?"
Keeping it just in the hip-hop territory
Logic- Supermarket
Vic Mensa - 93 Punks
Chance The Rapper- The Big Day
Lil Wayne- Rebirth
G-Easy-that terrible rock album that i can't even remember the title of
Big K.R.I.T-digital roses don't die
Drake-Honestly Nevermind
Look ,I'm not saying that artists shouldn't evolve, evolving is the most crucial part to building a legacy, but when you decide to switch gears make sure you're actually equipped or else you might put out you're worse project ever
I agree, the focus should always be on the quality imo, just because you "switch up" old shit doesnt make it good, you have to master the execution well.
Basically i care for one thing, is this enjoyable for me? I am within my right to express my opinion, but artists should just focus on mastering whatever it is they are going for regardless of what fans think.
Supermarket wasn’t logic switching up. It was a fun project for him to accompany his book.
Digital roses don’t die was actually good though
@@thawinvinodh716 aye but it was a rock album in the midst of a purely hip hop discography
@@icytidal3228 I actually didn't mind it ,it was pretty cathy, not his best but it's ok , but still the backlash to it was pretty huge, most of KRIT's hard-core fans did not fuck with that project, that's why i included it.
You could try to mix your old and new sounds together but that’s hard
Bro the collage at 0:46 is like a picture of my own genesis
"I miss the old _" was already certified boomer thing now. Sorry, old figures fans, things keep changing everyday, pals. If only we ever had a time machine IRL though
To be honest MGK had the most succesful transition. I mean the way he slowly introduced it through his quarantaine videos was awesome and I think that tracks and covers he released during that time are fire af. I believe that if he wasn't such a narcissist he would be extremally respected now.
Nah his shit is just trash thats all
He makes pretty shitty pop punk. There's literally no reason to listen to it over the classics outside of the occasional hip hop influenced thing. There's nothing he does that other artists in the genre don't do better, and it's so generic that there's barely anything unique to cling to.
@@shadez123 Yeah I agree, but catchy generic music = money.
I loved it when Kanye rhymed Kanye with Kanye!
Ok I'm not the biggest fan of the new Kanye but he was clearly rhyming the penultimate words in each line
I MISS THE OLD KANYE.
This is fantastic advice
Public in general DO NOT KNOW what they want, its a fact.