Maybe mainstream albums are but even than we have a few acts who give quality albums, Other than that the Underground/Mildly main streams acts are killing it with the albums, Quality after Quality
Singers’ albums are dying but stuff like scores and soundtracks albums should be on the rise you made a point to say would I listen to a lil baby album or would I waste time I would pick the second option but replace it with a soundtrack such as cobra Kaii would pick the first option
most of people dont know how to really enjoy music. There are so many artist that put their effort to make a whole vibe in 20 songs together in a specific order to give something unique.
@@emalontrack So, no interest in finding out what BIBLE (KJV) is about? A movie fan? yet having no interest why more and more darker movies are made? A music fan? yet never investigated whom you truly listen to? All singers, all actors and all politics are FTMs and MTFs. And masons at different level (33 levels of being a mason) or in business with the masons. A movie fans, but all these unwatched? The Unlisted (2019), The Arrival (1996), The Twilight Zone (1959,1985, 2002, 2019) They Live (1988), Matrix (1999), Get Out (2017), Left Behind (2000/2002/2014), Soylent Green (1973), Logan`s Run (1976) The Truman Show (1998), SON OF GOD (2014), Abigail (2019), The x Flies (1993), Grimm (2011) - , I AM A Legend (2005), The swarm (1978), THE V (2009), The Strain (2014), (The Invasion (2007) of the body Snatchers (1978), “Daybreakers” (2009). Knowing how to search for information, but keeps living without the knowledge? MK-Ultra Mind Control/Brain Hacking/Torture Program, Television-- Tell a lie vision, Freemason, 5G+Project Blue Beam, Fake Space, NASA, Flat Earth, A.I, Transhumanism, Mark Of The Beast, Nr. 666, Fake moon landing, Fake news, New World Order, 201 Agenda, 911, Reptiles, Demons, Fallen Angels, Matrix, Kabbalah, Alien Invasion, Transgender Agenda, Cains offspring, Strong Delusion, Days Of Noah, DNA, Spirit - Soul - Body, Humans offspring, They Live- We Sleep, Spiritual Death, Transvestigation/investigation, The Illuminati, Illuminati Checkrboard, nr. 33, magic, Satanic Holidays, nr. 322 skull and bones, The great reset (agenda), MSM brainwashing propaganda, Tesla free energy, FEMA Camps, Baphomet, Cern, Depopulation (of mankind), Sleeper Agents, Beta Programming, Black Mirror, Black sun, Eye of Horus, Chemtrails, Inverted Pentagram, Obelisk, Black Cube, Dobule-Headed Eagle, Knights Templar, Imperial Eagle, Solar Barque, Sun/Solar Worship, Winged Sun Disk, Fake Pregnant Belly, Human Brain Project, Targeted Individuals, Bio-Coded Energy Voice To Skull, Organic Robotoid, Human Clones, Cloaking Device, Population Control, whistleblowers, Mud flood(s), The Manipulation Of Time, GMA - genetically modified humans, Nanotechnology, Social Media = Mass Psycho Cybernetics, Black eyed babies - The Plandemic Babies, Killed by ventilators, Operation Mockingbird, Project Looking Glass, Satellites = Ground Cell Towers, Vaccines = Bioweapons, Lipid Nanoparticles, Nanotechnology mRNA Vaccines, Graphene Hydroxide, (MtFtM and FtMtF) Detransitioning, Spirit cooking, Dupers delight, Music concerts = harvesting human energy, Holographic technology, illuminati + DNA alteration (The creation of hybrid beings). www.youtube.com/@icxcnika2816/videos
My absolute favorite album is Metallicas Ride The Lighting, 8 songs, 1 hour run time, I can listen to it all the way through every time, it almost feels like only a couple minutes pass when I’m listening even though I’d be on track 4 and it’s been 30 mins.
Albums will never die lmao, There are cohesive well thought out albums in mainstream and underground, The problem is people are stuck in the past and nostalgia instead of creating new memories with the newer projects
I’m glad at least 94 people agree with this but I dunno. at least based in my personal life I’m really not sure how many people give full albums chances anymore. Idkif it’s different for everyone else but it’s quite common to just listen to music only when you’re driving and when you do, it’s just a playlist or something. I still adore the album experience but others don’t unfortunately :/
@Silk Sonic have you heard the Dawn FM discourse? people do not like that album for some reason and I can only chop it down to people listening once and never giving it another try. so it’s not the best argument because even nostalgia has room to fail, it’s all albums and the way the general public listens to albums
@Silk Sonic I also constantly heard people saying that the Silk Sonic record just sounded like an Old Navy commercial lol, love both of the albums you described but there are people that hate those albums (which says a lot about those people because they are good albums)
The albums not very good then is it? If an album 3 tracks in is still terrible then thats not a good sign at all. The first few tracks should be what hooks you. If the first few songs are terrible nobody cares If the last half is amazing.
Nah this cap. I be watching 1-2hr long UA-cam videos every single day, but albums the same length are boring. Too many ups and downs not enough consistency across songs to keep me personally entertained for long
“Yo have you heard this new *insert famous artist here* album?” “Yeah it’s mid” (skipped around and hasn’t heard most of the album) discussing an album online in 2023 in a nutshell.
They never die. people who care about making a cohesive listening experience that can’t be made in one to 5 songs will appreciate the artist that take the time to make such things and there are still a ton of people who appreciate those things.
I respectfully disagree with the creator, some of the best, most groundbreaking and most important albums of the 21st century were released in the last 10 years. The entire industry hasn’t turned to playlist fodder. But it’s a popular opinion nowadays.
Jazz artists were putting out full length LP's which were extremely popular long before the Beatles. Miles Davis "kind of blue" sold over a million copies in 1959, 4 years before the Beatles dropped their first album. Crediting solely them as popularizing the album is a massive oversight of decades worth of popular music.
While you're correct, you do have to keep in mind that prior to The Beatles, albums were mainly the domain of jazz and classic music primarily purchased by adults who could afford a full LP. Teenagers mainly purchased singles as that was the dominant form of musical expression for most popular artists at the time. It was wasn't until The Beatles that albums start to take precedent in other forms of music(primarily rock and pop), so the guy is not wrong.
I don’t get why artists aren’t promoting albums as if it were 10 or 12 singles. Drop a song each day and keep the hype rolling while lowering the time commitment a consumer needs to put in to experience it. It even works for conceptual shit in the same way TV does. Imagine having the TPAB poem revealed to you over 16 days.
It can go either way, either u make an album full of bangers or u make an album that’s super out the box and creative so that it sticks out more. Idk albums just come and go nowadays, it’s weird, then said album will hit like it should’ve initially like a few years down the line compared to before but maybe that’s just my nostalgia glasses.
me and one of my friends actually got into an argument about whether or not you should listen to albums in full. This man has NEVER listened to an album as a whole.
I used to have that opinion, I was like 13 years old at the time tho. I figured the singles are the best songs and you only need to listen further if you’re a diehard fan. 😅 I was wrong.
@@marcel3942 Because that's how you miss out on the ones you might like? Trust me, there's hardly any artists or bands out there that don't have at least 1 or 2 misses, and one of them might be the track you stumbled upon, lol.
i'm not too familiar with hip hop but i can say that in rock and metal full length albums are still doing well. some of us don't even want to listen to the singles when they drop because we want to experience the entire album
@@evaluna122 I don't care if there's this people who after one listening move on to the next thing as long as the bands that I'm listening releasing new albums not just one wonder singles.
I've gone through a huge music journey the past 3 years. Starting with listening to albums from the 60s and now im 2012. Music won't die, there are pop culture trends in music but the most remembered albums are a comment on them or loveletter to. Album listeners are here, but nowadays the younger folk won't push themselves to listen to weird shit or stuff out of their time range. It's normal, it's been like this for years. I was in a music club in college so I met a lot of album listeners, we are very much alive. I think you have to join a community with music lovers. If you're chronically online then push yourself to meet others you know at concerts or go to local concert shows. You'll eventually meet people that are into the same shit if you constantly go to areas that hold these people.
hi im 17, i kinda agree but because i;m chronically online i'm obsessed with looking at the charts of rym and 4chan's /mu list. sometimes even, youtube recomends some really underground stuff. japanese people are still out counting cd sales and most city pop albums aren't on spotify. honestly, while singles have their place, they would never replace the feeling you get from listening to albums like nonagon infinity, my bloody valentine, death metal-panchiko, in the aeroplane over the sea, in the court of the crimson king or pink floyds the wall. none of which would've been great if i'd compare these albums with movies, where if even one part was dropped, the cohesion slips away.
@@Volonanostress You nailed it. The first thing I thought as I saw this video title and how wrong it is: "Nonagon Infinity". There's so much cool shit that is exclusively done in album format, like that album. And TPAB too. And with the ease that we can get to experience them nowadays, saying that the album is dead bc casual listeners don't appreciate albums is so wrong, bc albums have never been meant for casuals, so obviously rappers like Drake or other big pop artists can't sustain their careers on album format since their audience is mostly casuals.
Albums are dying yet, just a 3 months ago, Taylor Swift just sold 1.5M albums in a week. No one wants to talk about that. And the majority were pure album sales And it had strong streaming numbers too. The streams alone would have blown 90% of artists out of the water. So stop the pessimism. It CAN be done, artists just have to get creative and train their fans to buy their albums.
In terms of selling their Album, Taylor Swift needs to be talked about more, especially her methods of selling it. But I fear that there is an agenda against Taylor Swift by some critics, cause sometimes, I hear all about TS bad and dem...
ts is a mainstream artist that has the backing of the big money. its not just creativity or "training" your fans (like pets?) her albums are mostly mid made for teenager girls and gays to feel like having community
@@jurassicthunder looking for offense in the word “training” really? Don’t be pedantic. I stand by that with all ten toes, yes, you “train” your fans, so they don’t only stream but they learn when you drop, if you buy physical, you’re getting *extra value.* whether that means extra music, extra notes, extra pics, posters, diary entries or merch, something that will look good on a shelf or on display, you name it. Also bond with your fans and foster community with them. Country artists are particularly pgood at building a deep connection with their fans. And that’s why country artist have strong physical sales. Taylor will invite her fans to her house for listening parties, she’ll bake them cookies, she attend her fans weddings. She’s involved. Her coming up through country gave her that sensibility.
@@jurassicthunder you seem to have a lot of contempt for her and her fans but you’re gonna have to give her flowers. There are lots of female artists who appeal to the exact same demographics you’re describing, none of them sell half what Taylor does. Plus wake up, Taylor’s first album dropped in 06. The teenagers growing up listening to Taylor are in their 30s now and still love her. You know how dope you have to be to retain an active fanbase in this industry for almost two decades. And _still_ sell millions when you drop. And _still_ sell out stadiums worldwide. That’s rare and commands respect.
I used to just pick songs and slap them into a playlist too, but after listening to Blonde, I realized how moving and entertaining listening to an album from front to back can be. I still listen to songs by themselves or playlists if im not up for going though the experience of listening to a full length album and just need some background music as I live, but experiencing albums by themselves is a whole different experience that many people are missing out.
I'm still an album guy. Still buy vinyl and CDs, sometimes tapes also. But yeah, in the grander scheme of things, the album format is not as important anymore as it used to be.
Maybe if you only listen to mainstream pop and rap music, I can think of countless thematically interesting and cohesive records that have come out in the past several years from all sorts of different genres
I feel like there's still a few of artists that create album's, probably in genre's that aren't as popular (im thinking rock/metal ecr) but in general i think the weeknd is a good example of an artist still producing albums ( like after hours and dawn FM) that are coherent and you really gotta listen from start to finish if u wanna feel the real experience
I feel like even if you don't wanna listen to an entire album in one sitting you'll still end up listening to 90% of the songs on it at some point if you are a fan of the artist (And the album doesn't have 30 songs)
holy shit takes like this actually hurt my brain lmfao. no they aren't even close to dying. there is so much fucking music out there, especially when you look past the 20 most popular mainstream artists. people who have a love and passion for their art will continue to make it, there are so many incredible albums out there, you just have to find them, and it isn't hard.
Ya the problem is that people don’t listen to the full albums. So as we go into the future artists will care less and less about them. Hopefully it turns around
Yeah im pretty sure this guys point is that they’re disappearing from the MAINSTREAM. And even if the ARTISTS make albums intended to be y’know albums it doesn’t matter because people nowadays are going to pick out their favorite songs and skip and jump around.
5:07 Taxi Driver is the reason I listened to Kris Kristofferson. Betsy even misquotes one of his songs in one of the scenes. "He's a walking contradiction partly truth and partly fiction" Awesome movie, awesome album.
It’s a shame albums are being a thing of the past, I hope our attention spans can be helped nowadays. Also my music flops each time, can someone tell me what I’m doing wrong?
I mean albums aren't dying but I think playlisting as a whole is kind've just the norm. Everyone wants a great album from their favorite artist but they'll just add the songs to their playlist. I thought this was just normal. I don't see the point in listening to full length albums that I've already heard
Yeah I agree, I definitely listen to full albums but after I've given an album a few full listens, I would rather bump my favourites on it rather than sit through it again. Of course I'm gonna give consistent and great albums more full listens sometime in the future, but in the long run, Imma just bump the tracks mixed in with other tracks I'm into at the moment. I like a wide variety of genres in my music rotation.
@@juhanainen Yeah agreed. Plus I have a life and 2 jobs so when it comes to music I just use it as something to enjoy while I'm busy. Don't really have the time anymore to just sit down and listen to an hour long album of music I've already heard before. I do the same listen to it a few good times and add what I like to my playlist.
Here's my take you can either agree, disagree, or find it to be completely in left field but the way I see it if you want to truly get into an album, you'd probably really have to be a fan of that artist. I think albums are not really a thing anymore because 1, they are sometimes longer than they need to be, and 2, songs can drag on after 4 minutes in my opinion. Also, I'm not on board with deluxe albums why tact on a few extra tracks to a 14, 15 track record. What it SHOULD be is a fresh set of songs not on top of what was already heard. Anyway, at this point I'm enjoying some playlists and the streaming era has also changed the way we listening to music it's not all bad it's not great either.
yh, for example, did you know they were one of the first to use tape loops? and reverse tapes, as well. They were also one of, if not the first artist to perform in a stadium. And there are a load of other things, like @coleintheville117 said, but these are some of the more interesting ones (imo).
Crediting them for popularizing the LP is blatantly ignoring decades worth of extremely successful jazz and early blues music. Artists like Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, Dizzy Gillespie, John Coltrane, and ESPECIALLY Miles Davis released albums to huge commercial success well before the Beatles came out.
Good kid maad city was the first album I listened to fully. What an amazing experience it was. Still listen to it from time to time, still gives me chills.
Making an album is an art. Making a single is easy, but making an album that has hit after hit that flows well is an art. If you want an example of the perfect album, listen to Absent Sounds from From Indian Lakes.
I high key miss buying cds and I’m one who would listen to an entire album without skipping. If I enjoy the whole album I’ll buy it on iTunes. Some albums are just too inflated which I don’t like and when it’s like that I just get the tracks and like and rock off of that
This was a very well made video! I’ve lived through the crazy changes music has made through the years. I had records in the late 80’s, then cassettes in the 90’s. CD’s in the late nineties & the early 2000’s. Even had an iPod. Albums went from about an hour to a little under forty minutes. I know artists are feeling the pinch, as well as the writers and producers. Even the biggest artists are seeing their sales on the decline (Chris Brown for example).
Really fascinating video. You make a solid case. What´s funny is that I still remember my first CD and CD-player. Man I played that a lot. It was Hits for Kids 8. It was a mix of 24 hit songs in pop at the time that was suitable for children. At one point in my adult life I thought to myself what a great idea. I´ve always loved to experiment with Spotify playlists since joining the beta in 2008. And the usb stick MP3 player omg.... You just reminded me of what my first mp3 player looked like. I am so grateful that my father had such great love for music and countless LPs, CDs and MP3s so I was really fortunate to grow up with access to a lot of different songs. As I am about to release my first song on Spotify as an artist I feel relieved to discover that a shorter song is not a bad thing. Statistics show that people prefer a full song of 2 minutes compared to 4 minutes with lots of filling unless the filling music is supreme. Especially with the lower attention spans of consumers. So I´m relieved because I wanted to make it longer, but I could just make more songs rather than one long one that change the flow. Ultimately I will do both, but I think the art of making condensed music is really cool. I enjoy making the most out of a limited format so I do appreciate it too. I consider the style which Chris Webby did for years with #WebbyWednesday to be a very good strategy. He always dropped new music on a Wednesday and it really became a vibe after he drip fed his fans throughout the year, which finally culminated in an album. Then he just put a few new songs in the album and call it a day. His fans get new music many times over and he still use the format of albums too.
Great video! You should make a video on how music videos may be dying. *The reason I think this is because I've noticed recent music videos for a lot of big songs aren't getting as many views on UA-cam as the used to.
Ever since SoundCloud became popular EP’s became more frequently dropped. nd the way albums were put together changed with introductions, interludes, and outros. Also playlists as well. Those are the new albums these days
I feel as though as I’ve gotten older from teen to adult, I’ve grown to like listening to uncut albums at full length, but I’ve become more picky of what I listen to , so I tend to listen to full albums of artists I know I’ll like or an album with a song I especially like, and I usually find these songs through playlists. In that sense, both playlists and albums have a place in my life, and I feel like it’s the optimum way of appreciating music but that’s just my take lol
One of the best conceptual album as of late that ive heard... is quadeca's "i didnt mean to haunt you". Give it a listen, if you haven't. I promise it will be worth your while.
The irony of me buying a physical CD and then saving money for a speaker that can only play music via Bluetooth lmao. Love the convenience of that but ill always be a sucker for CDs and the like. Great video!
This is a fascinating and well thought out analysis. I pretty much agree for the mainstream artists. I like that at the end you brought it full circle and said the current climate is actually good for independents. Looking forward to part two of this. BTW, I so wanted to make a joke here about my new chill Afrobeat album just dropped, but I won't. LoL. Keep up the good work, Duplee.
I absolutely miss the era of artists coming out with “Era” albums. Where they wait 4 years then bam pop up with a re-invented sound, look, had a full package of a world tour, song releases, music videos. And they just hustle for a year or two straight with appearances, remixes, and what not. Those were some of the greatest times. Especially Michael Jackson. You knew the longer he took, the more wild his next era was gonna be.
There doesn't even need to be a long gap between albums. For example, the 70s prog band Yes. From 1971 to 1974 they released 5 albums, all unique, all 5 regarded as some of the greatest works in their genre.
it’s not about my short attention span is that i can tell if i like a song with the first 30 seconds max, and if i don’t like it i don’t like to waste time and continue listening to something i don’t like
Nah.. like 2 songs were hits and mostly because of Tik Tok challenge. She wasn't even top 15 as an overall albums sales last year. The album did not make it way through outside of her fandom hype.
That's why i still buy my albums on CD. I feel like it's the best way for me to experience them and have a personal connection with them. I would buy them on vinyl but i'm broke
Analog to digital played a major role in the decline of most of the stuff. Nowadays we live just to follow some written stuff and die suffering I saw so many people hating spotify. They say Spotify is destroying the music industry but piracy is a big problem for every creators and Spotify is helping them
As long as I still get 15-20 good to great albums every year... From major artists (Beyoncé Renaissance is supposed to be only Act I of III...) to independent artists (I own 40 Rhymesayers Vinyls and I live in Germany... all those were printed in the US and traveled across the ocean for me...). And just to point that out: Vinyl Sales are on the rise for the 17th straight year.
For me as a former Gen Z adult now, I can fully say “I have good taste in music” i only listen to full projects I love listening to not popular music and my circle of friends always be telling me “You’re so edgy, bro tryna be unique” bruh, I just love music, Barry White, Jamiroquai, Kanye West, Lenny Williams, Fat Larry’s band, Alicia Keys, Childish Gambino, Car Seat Headrest, Azealia Banks, Bronski beat, Nelly Furtado, Tame Impala, Erykah Badu, J Dilla, Stevie Wonder, Travis Scott (Rodeo), Daft Punk, Kaytranada, I’ve listen to a lots of artists, lots of genres, these are the ones that I love so much, I put their albums playing all through to see their artistic visions and understand their projects instead of picking what I like, that way I end up liking the whole album.
Honestly, this is why an artist like Beyoncé is so important to albums and popular culture. She keeps the cohesion and storytelling alive not only sonically but also visually in a way that stills feels current, new, and exciting. Michael Jackson would be proud that she’s carrying the mantel and found out a way to revolutionize the LP in a climate that is trying so hard to reject it.
For those who didn't use an extension that hides end cards, the text at 17:21 says "Attention spans are dying" then it says "A Duplee series" finally it says "part 2 soon". I'm sure you can uncensor the word at 8:19. So... is attention span suddenly a sensitive subject?
Honestly I’d argue the opposite is true, streaming has allowed entire albums to reach the hot 100 all at once. Just look at Midnights, 10 songs in the top ten all from one album. We’re in a new golden age of albums if you ask me.
You should make a video about artist/producers making creative albums with (“movies” a video for every song, ex : Kanye MBDTF, Sturgil Simpson sound and fury, Conductor Williams Samo’s Revenge, Etc) ultimately creating a piece of full art
ARE ALBUMS DYING?
Probably
Maybe mainstream albums are but even than we have a few acts who give quality albums, Other than that the Underground/Mildly main streams acts are killing it with the albums, Quality after Quality
No. If anything, _singles_ are dying because streaming services are more conducive to albums, while MP3 downloads are best for singles.
Singers’ albums are dying but stuff like scores and soundtracks albums should be on the rise you made a point to say would I listen to a lil baby album or would I waste time I would pick the second option but replace it with a soundtrack such as cobra Kaii would pick the first option
@@richyrich69 This. I don't always complete albums from start to finish, but when I do, they're BGMs.
people who truly appreciate music love albums. they will never die.
most of people dont know how to really enjoy music. There are so many artist that put their effort to make a whole vibe in 20 songs together in a specific order to give something unique.
@@emalontrack
So, no interest in finding out what BIBLE (KJV) is about?
A movie fan? yet having no interest why more and more darker movies are made?
A music fan? yet never investigated whom you truly listen to?
All singers, all actors and all politics are FTMs and MTFs.
And masons at different level (33 levels of being a mason) or in business with the masons.
A movie fans, but all these unwatched?
The Unlisted (2019), The Arrival (1996), The Twilight Zone (1959,1985, 2002, 2019)
They Live (1988),
Matrix (1999), Get Out (2017), Left Behind (2000/2002/2014),
Soylent Green (1973), Logan`s Run (1976)
The Truman Show (1998), SON OF GOD (2014),
Abigail (2019), The x Flies (1993),
Grimm (2011) - , I AM A Legend (2005),
The swarm (1978), THE V (2009), The Strain (2014),
(The Invasion (2007) of the body Snatchers (1978), “Daybreakers” (2009).
Knowing how to search for information, but keeps living without the knowledge?
MK-Ultra Mind Control/Brain Hacking/Torture Program, Television-- Tell a lie vision, Freemason, 5G+Project Blue Beam, Fake Space, NASA, Flat Earth, A.I, Transhumanism, Mark Of The Beast, Nr. 666, Fake moon landing, Fake news, New World Order, 201 Agenda, 911, Reptiles, Demons, Fallen Angels, Matrix, Kabbalah, Alien Invasion, Transgender Agenda, Cains offspring, Strong Delusion, Days Of Noah, DNA, Spirit - Soul - Body, Humans offspring, They Live- We Sleep, Spiritual Death, Transvestigation/investigation, The Illuminati, Illuminati Checkrboard, nr. 33, magic, Satanic Holidays, nr. 322 skull and bones, The great reset (agenda), MSM brainwashing propaganda, Tesla free energy, FEMA Camps, Baphomet, Cern, Depopulation (of mankind), Sleeper Agents, Beta Programming, Black Mirror, Black sun, Eye of Horus, Chemtrails, Inverted Pentagram, Obelisk, Black Cube, Dobule-Headed Eagle, Knights Templar, Imperial Eagle, Solar Barque, Sun/Solar Worship, Winged Sun Disk, Fake Pregnant Belly, Human Brain Project, Targeted Individuals, Bio-Coded Energy Voice To Skull, Organic Robotoid, Human Clones, Cloaking Device, Population Control, whistleblowers, Mud flood(s), The Manipulation Of Time, GMA - genetically modified humans, Nanotechnology, Social Media = Mass Psycho Cybernetics, Black eyed babies - The Plandemic Babies, Killed by ventilators, Operation Mockingbird, Project Looking Glass, Satellites = Ground Cell Towers, Vaccines = Bioweapons, Lipid Nanoparticles, Nanotechnology mRNA Vaccines, Graphene Hydroxide, (MtFtM and FtMtF) Detransitioning, Spirit cooking, Dupers delight, Music concerts = harvesting human energy, Holographic technology, illuminati + DNA alteration (The creation of hybrid beings).
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Facts
Yes, albums shall never die
My absolute favorite album is Metallicas Ride The Lighting, 8 songs, 1 hour run time, I can listen to it all the way through every time, it almost feels like only a couple minutes pass when I’m listening even though I’d be on track 4 and it’s been 30 mins.
Albums will never die lmao, There are cohesive well thought out albums in mainstream and underground, The problem is people are stuck in the past and nostalgia instead of creating new memories with the newer projects
I’m glad at least 94 people agree with this but I dunno. at least based in my personal life I’m really not sure how many people give full albums chances anymore. Idkif it’s different for everyone else but it’s quite common to just listen to music only when you’re driving and when you do, it’s just a playlist or something. I still adore the album experience but others don’t unfortunately :/
we live in the era where people will judge a new album 3 tracks in and never get to the final song because they didn’t like how the album started
@Silk Sonic have you heard the Dawn FM discourse? people do not like that album for some reason and I can only chop it down to people listening once and never giving it another try. so it’s not the best argument because even nostalgia has room to fail, it’s all albums and the way the general public listens to albums
@Silk Sonic I also constantly heard people saying that the Silk Sonic record just sounded like an Old Navy commercial lol, love both of the albums you described but there are people that hate those albums (which says a lot about those people because they are good albums)
The albums not very good then is it? If an album 3 tracks in is still terrible then thats not a good sign at all. The first few tracks should be what hooks you. If the first few songs are terrible nobody cares If the last half is amazing.
albums aren't dying, attention spans are.
Nah this cap. I be watching 1-2hr long UA-cam videos every single day, but albums the same length are boring. Too many ups and downs not enough consistency across songs to keep me personally entertained for long
Meaby it more that entertaiment industry is just better at catching peoples attention
You thought you did something huh? 😭
Facts
You really thought you did something bro. If attention spans are dying, then albums are dying.
“Yo have you heard this new *insert famous artist here* album?”
“Yeah it’s mid” (skipped around and hasn’t heard most of the album)
discussing an album online in 2023 in a nutshell.
it's awful everyone says the same shit "mid" "fire"
@Eugene Eugene with another horrible take, Never saw a good opinion from you ever
@@williams1729 bro kinda got a point, first 2 bars into piss on your grave by Travis and I already knew I hated it 💀
Is this how it is in the rap community? Cause the rock community has been thriving on albums for the last couple of years
Maybe irl but in music discussion circles this is absolutely false
They never die. people who care about making a cohesive listening experience that can’t be made in one to 5 songs will appreciate the artist that take the time to make such things and there are still a ton of people who appreciate those things.
I respectfully disagree with the creator, some of the best, most groundbreaking and most important albums of the 21st century were released in the last 10 years. The entire industry hasn’t turned to playlist fodder. But it’s a popular opinion nowadays.
Not even a minute in and its already a classic
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Nathan Zed typa beat
@@perplexed1783yessir
Ok now that I’ve watched the vid, it’s actually a classic
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Jazz artists were putting out full length LP's which were extremely popular long before the Beatles. Miles Davis "kind of blue" sold over a million copies in 1959, 4 years before the Beatles dropped their first album. Crediting solely them as popularizing the album is a massive oversight of decades worth of popular music.
While you're correct, you do have to keep in mind that prior to The Beatles, albums were mainly the domain of jazz and classic music primarily purchased by adults who could afford a full LP. Teenagers mainly purchased singles as that was the dominant form of musical expression for most popular artists at the time. It was wasn't until The Beatles that albums start to take precedent in other forms of music(primarily rock and pop), so the guy is not wrong.
I don’t get why artists aren’t promoting albums as if it were 10 or 12 singles. Drop a song each day and keep the hype rolling while lowering the time commitment a consumer needs to put in to experience it.
It even works for conceptual shit in the same way TV does. Imagine having the TPAB poem revealed to you over 16 days.
Just gotta make sure you have an album that is all bangers ig, which may be tough depending on the artist.
It can go either way, either u make an album full of bangers or u make an album that’s super out the box and creative so that it sticks out more. Idk albums just come and go nowadays, it’s weird, then said album will hit like it should’ve initially like a few years down the line compared to before but maybe that’s just my nostalgia glasses.
Gorillaz did this with song machine, granted the concept can still be built upon
Probably because of budget, time, how much the artist gives a fck and the limited amount of songs with the most commercial potential.
@@evolved1665 what’s the genre that’s replacing rap in the underground as we speak
me and one of my friends actually got into an argument about whether or not you should listen to albums in full. This man has NEVER listened to an album as a whole.
How can one have an opinion then lmao
I used to have that opinion, I was like 13 years old at the time tho. I figured the singles are the best songs and you only need to listen further if you’re a diehard fan. 😅 I was wrong.
@GrassEaTer If I don't like a song why keep listening to it?
@@marcel3942 Because that's how you miss out on the ones you might like? Trust me, there's hardly any artists or bands out there that don't have at least 1 or 2 misses, and one of them might be the track you stumbled upon, lol.
@V. Lain You didn't read what I said. I never skip the whole album, but I'm skipping songs I don't like
i'm not too familiar with hip hop but i can say that in rock and metal full length albums are still doing well. some of us don't even want to listen to the singles when they drop because we want to experience the entire album
Yes!!🤘
I do this in hip hop maybe one single if that then I wait for the album
And in most instances even in hip hop the single is a totally different vibe than the artist delivers on the album
Exactly, the metal rock band genre is still full alive and growing in high rap areas. We listen to full albums and support growing bands 🔥🤘🏽
@@evaluna122 I don't care if there's this people who after one listening move on to the next thing as long as the bands that I'm listening releasing new albums not just one wonder singles.
I've gone through a huge music journey the past 3 years. Starting with listening to albums from the 60s and now im 2012. Music won't die, there are pop culture trends in music but the most remembered albums are a comment on them or loveletter to. Album listeners are here, but nowadays the younger folk won't push themselves to listen to weird shit or stuff out of their time range. It's normal, it's been like this for years. I was in a music club in college so I met a lot of album listeners, we are very much alive. I think you have to join a community with music lovers. If you're chronically online then push yourself to meet others you know at concerts or go to local concert shows. You'll eventually meet people that are into the same shit if you constantly go to areas that hold these people.
hi im 17, i kinda agree but because i;m chronically online i'm obsessed with looking at the charts of rym and 4chan's /mu list. sometimes even, youtube recomends some really underground stuff. japanese people are still out counting cd sales and most city pop albums aren't on spotify. honestly, while singles have their place, they would never replace the feeling you get from listening to albums like nonagon infinity, my bloody valentine, death metal-panchiko, in the aeroplane over the sea, in the court of the crimson king or pink floyds the wall. none of which would've been great if i'd compare these albums with movies, where if even one part was dropped, the cohesion slips away.
If anything I've found more like minded people online then offline
@@Volonanostress You nailed it. The first thing I thought as I saw this video title and how wrong it is: "Nonagon Infinity". There's so much cool shit that is exclusively done in album format, like that album. And TPAB too. And with the ease that we can get to experience them nowadays, saying that the album is dead bc casual listeners don't appreciate albums is so wrong, bc albums have never been meant for casuals, so obviously rappers like Drake or other big pop artists can't sustain their careers on album format since their audience is mostly casuals.
This video is about how the album format is dying and you’re talking about meeting people? 😅
Albums are dying yet, just a 3 months ago, Taylor Swift just sold 1.5M albums in a week. No one wants to talk about that. And the majority were pure album sales And it had strong streaming numbers too. The streams alone would have blown 90% of artists out of the water. So stop the pessimism. It CAN be done, artists just have to get creative and train their fans to buy their albums.
In terms of selling their Album, Taylor Swift needs to be talked about more, especially her methods of selling it.
But I fear that there is an agenda against Taylor Swift by some critics, cause sometimes, I hear all about TS bad and dem...
it's not pessimism, most artists nowadays don't achieve more than 150k first week, this can be mostly seen in the rap industry.
ts is a mainstream artist that has the backing of the big money. its not just creativity or "training" your fans (like pets?) her albums are mostly mid made for teenager girls and gays to feel like having community
@@jurassicthunder looking for offense in the word “training” really? Don’t be pedantic. I stand by that with all ten toes, yes, you “train” your fans, so they don’t only stream but they learn when you drop, if you buy physical, you’re getting *extra value.* whether that means extra music, extra notes, extra pics, posters, diary entries or merch, something that will look good on a shelf or on display, you name it. Also bond with your fans and foster community with them. Country artists are particularly pgood at building a deep connection with their fans. And that’s why country artist have strong physical sales. Taylor will invite her fans to her house for listening parties, she’ll bake them cookies, she attend her fans weddings. She’s involved. Her coming up through country gave her that sensibility.
@@jurassicthunder you seem to have a lot of contempt for her and her fans but you’re gonna have to give her flowers. There are lots of female artists who appeal to the exact same demographics you’re describing, none of them sell half what Taylor does. Plus wake up, Taylor’s first album dropped in 06. The teenagers growing up listening to Taylor are in their 30s now and still love her. You know how dope you have to be to retain an active fanbase in this industry for almost two decades. And _still_ sell millions when you drop. And _still_ sell out stadiums worldwide. That’s rare and commands respect.
I think albums usually are more for the top fans, it really makes them bond with an artists while singles are better for a broader audience
Bro seriously didn't watch the video
I'd say it's better to listen to an artist's album once you realise you like some of their music, but before you become a fan
@@craymander2467 I watched the entire video before commenting, I am just stating what's on my mind
No shit
The Griselda beats in the back soundtrack this video quite nicely. Good stuff Duplee
I used to just pick songs and slap them into a playlist too, but after listening to Blonde, I realized how moving and entertaining listening to an album from front to back can be. I still listen to songs by themselves or playlists if im not up for going though the experience of listening to a full length album and just need some background music as I live, but experiencing albums by themselves is a whole different experience that many people are missing out.
It honestly sad how short some people’s attention spans are 😔
I'm still an album guy. Still buy vinyl and CDs, sometimes tapes also. But yeah, in the grander scheme of things, the album format is not as important anymore as it used to be.
albums are missing themes and sequencing and it's sad 🫠
Maybe if you only listen to mainstream pop and rap music, I can think of countless thematically interesting and cohesive records that have come out in the past several years from all sorts of different genres
@@matty3501 And even in mainstream pop and rap, there are examples. Dawn FM is a concept album
@@juhanainena mid one
Agreed. More so than abums, I just believe that attention span and patience is dying
I feel like there's still a few of artists that create album's, probably in genre's that aren't as popular (im thinking rock/metal ecr) but in general i think the weeknd is a good example of an artist still producing albums ( like after hours and dawn FM) that are coherent and you really gotta listen from start to finish if u wanna feel the real experience
the difference in albums versus playlists is a family guy episode vs a family guy funny moments compellation
Underrated comment right there
Your editing is so good damn
I feel like even if you don't wanna listen to an entire album in one sitting you'll still end up listening to 90% of the songs on it at some point if you are a fan of the artist (And the album doesn't have 30 songs)
holy shit takes like this actually hurt my brain lmfao. no they aren't even close to dying. there is so much fucking music out there, especially when you look past the 20 most popular mainstream artists. people who have a love and passion for their art will continue to make it, there are so many incredible albums out there, you just have to find them, and it isn't hard.
spot on
Ya the problem is that people don’t listen to the full albums. So as we go into the future artists will care less and less about them. Hopefully it turns around
Yeah im pretty sure this guys point is that they’re disappearing from the MAINSTREAM. And even if the ARTISTS make albums intended to be y’know albums it doesn’t matter because people nowadays are going to pick out their favorite songs and skip and jump around.
@@NoName-pl7zm lots of people still listen to full albums. you think mfs are just gonna listen to a few songs when utopia drops? lmao
@@slattslattslatt yeah 💀
Dude I could recognize every song you put in this video , you are the man of the people
The background music you got is just perfect
I love how all the backround music is js Westside gunn songs 💀 love it
Drake was ahead of his time with labeling More Life as a playlist in 2017. Cuz that's what's happening now
The Westside Gunn music in the background made my day...
"Attention Spans are dying"
Managed to make it to the end of the video 😎
5:07 Taxi Driver is the reason I listened to Kris Kristofferson. Betsy even misquotes one of his songs in one of the scenes.
"He's a walking contradiction
partly truth and partly fiction"
Awesome movie, awesome album.
It’s a shame albums are being a thing of the past, I hope our attention spans can be helped nowadays.
Also my music flops each time, can someone tell me what I’m doing wrong?
cold hard truth:
your brand is shit.
i didn't even listen to a song to see whats wrong
making mid music
@@n.f.w9825 fair enough
the editing in this video is incredible wow
It’s crazy how I just ran into your UA-cam today and I’m hooked you got something on your hands gained a new subscriber
Sometimes I wonder if people even have the attention span to finish a Duplee video.
intro is the right way to listen 👍🏿
I mean albums aren't dying but I think playlisting as a whole is kind've just the norm. Everyone wants a great album from their favorite artist but they'll just add the songs to their playlist. I thought this was just normal. I don't see the point in listening to full length albums that I've already heard
Yeah I agree, I definitely listen to full albums but after I've given an album a few full listens, I would rather bump my favourites on it rather than sit through it again. Of course I'm gonna give consistent and great albums more full listens sometime in the future, but in the long run, Imma just bump the tracks mixed in with other tracks I'm into at the moment. I like a wide variety of genres in my music rotation.
@@juhanainen Yeah agreed. Plus I have a life and 2 jobs so when it comes to music I just use it as something to enjoy while I'm busy. Don't really have the time anymore to just sit down and listen to an hour long album of music I've already heard before. I do the same listen to it a few good times and add what I like to my playlist.
loved all the griselda and gunn beats used behind this video.
Lmao that intro is fire bro def would add that to my playlist
Dawg. That intro. Was hilarious. 💀💀💀 first thing I’ve ever seen from you and that’s an instant sub. I expect great things. I believe in you, homie.
Bro i love your video style
Me trying to ignore this and make my best conceptual album I can
Duplee's a goat, consistently makes funny, well edited, well thought out videos. (lowkey reminds me of an old friend too) Keep it up🔥🔥
duplee the new profile picture is cursed as hell, I love it.
Here's my take you can either agree, disagree, or find it to be completely in left field but the way I see it if you want to truly get into an album, you'd probably really have to be a fan of that artist. I think albums are not really a thing anymore because 1, they are sometimes longer than they need to be, and 2, songs can drag on after 4 minutes in my opinion. Also, I'm not on board with deluxe albums why tact on a few extra tracks to a 14, 15 track record. What it SHOULD be is a fresh set of songs not on top of what was already heard. Anyway, at this point I'm enjoying some playlists and the streaming era has also changed the way we listening to music it's not all bad it's not great either.
Instead of viewing an album as a collection of songs I view them as a one long listening experience
Damn I never thought Beatles influenced the records industry, I though they were just good and really popular
The beatles changed music in many many ways
yh, for example, did you know they were one of the first to use tape loops? and reverse tapes, as well. They were also one of, if not the first artist to perform in a stadium. And there are a load of other things, like @coleintheville117 said, but these are some of the more interesting ones (imo).
there are whole university courses on the beatles in some places. 20th century music can easily be defined as pre- or post-beatles
@@anthonyorr8868 exactly, you explained my point perfectly
Crediting them for popularizing the LP is blatantly ignoring decades worth of extremely successful jazz and early blues music. Artists like Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, Dizzy Gillespie, John Coltrane, and ESPECIALLY Miles Davis released albums to huge commercial success well before the Beatles came out.
Good kid maad city was the first album I listened to fully. What an amazing experience it was. Still listen to it from time to time, still gives me chills.
Not that you give AF - but you’re next up! Glad I’m here before you hit a million subs
Making an album is an art. Making a single is easy, but making an album that has hit after hit that flows well is an art.
If you want an example of the perfect album, listen to Absent Sounds from From Indian Lakes.
I high key miss buying cds and I’m one who would listen to an entire album without skipping. If I enjoy the whole album I’ll buy it on iTunes. Some albums are just too inflated which I don’t like and when it’s like that I just get the tracks and like and rock off of that
This was a very well made video! I’ve lived through the crazy changes music has made through the years. I had records in the late 80’s, then cassettes in the 90’s. CD’s in the late nineties & the early 2000’s. Even had an iPod. Albums went from about an hour to a little under forty minutes. I know artists are feeling the pinch, as well as the writers and producers. Even the biggest artists are seeing their sales on the decline (Chris Brown for example).
Sevdaliza. Kendrick Lamar. Ravyn Lenae. Banks. (Renaissance ofc.) albums are around ~ just up your Quality of music 🎼
Really fascinating video. You make a solid case. What´s funny is that I still remember my first CD and CD-player. Man I played that a lot. It was Hits for Kids 8. It was a mix of 24 hit songs in pop at the time that was suitable for children. At one point in my adult life I thought to myself what a great idea. I´ve always loved to experiment with Spotify playlists since joining the beta in 2008. And the usb stick MP3 player omg.... You just reminded me of what my first mp3 player looked like. I am so grateful that my father had such great love for music and countless LPs, CDs and MP3s so I was really fortunate to grow up with access to a lot of different songs. As I am about to release my first song on Spotify as an artist I feel relieved to discover that a shorter song is not a bad thing. Statistics show that people prefer a full song of 2 minutes compared to 4 minutes with lots of filling unless the filling music is supreme. Especially with the lower attention spans of consumers. So I´m relieved because I wanted to make it longer, but I could just make more songs rather than one long one that change the flow. Ultimately I will do both, but I think the art of making condensed music is really cool. I enjoy making the most out of a limited format so I do appreciate it too. I consider the style which Chris Webby did for years with #WebbyWednesday to be a very good strategy. He always dropped new music on a Wednesday and it really became a vibe after he drip fed his fans throughout the year, which finally culminated in an album. Then he just put a few new songs in the album and call it a day. His fans get new music many times over and he still use the format of albums too.
Great video! You should make a video on how music videos may be dying. *The reason I think this is because I've noticed recent music videos for a lot of big songs aren't getting as many views on UA-cam as the used to.
I don't think that all albums are dead. Even mainstreams albums like Whole Lotta Read and Kendrick's albums have sequencing and progressions.
Still listening to hour albums to this day
Ever since SoundCloud became popular EP’s became more frequently dropped. nd the way albums were put together changed with introductions, interludes, and outros. Also playlists as well. Those are the new albums these days
This is a great video man!
The background music was on point the entire time
the HMPF had me dying. 10/10 best part
I feel as though as I’ve gotten older from teen to adult, I’ve grown to like listening to uncut albums at full length, but I’ve become more picky of what I listen to , so I tend to listen to full albums of artists I know I’ll like or an album with a song I especially like, and I usually find these songs through playlists. In that sense, both playlists and albums have a place in my life, and I feel like it’s the optimum way of appreciating music but that’s just my take lol
i also noticed that rappers aren't including a 3rd verse in their songs, i thought i was the only one that had noticed that 10:54
You really make fire videos tho
I completely agree. Streaming has made it where artists wanna drop singles bc they are all on artists profile anyway
I think albums are only dead in Hiphop genre. Hiphop fans aren’t that devoted to buy albums from their artists compared to fans of pop artists.
Yeah definitely, just the amount of people that bought the Taylor Swift Midnights vinyl shows that the format is not going to die.
@@juhanainenwhats ur opinion on the taylor swift song w/ future?
@Sobotica Fire asf imo
One of the best conceptual album as of late that ive heard... is quadeca's "i didnt mean to haunt you". Give it a listen, if you haven't. I promise it will be worth your while.
It’s aight
Everytime Duplee posts it's a celebration
Damn the instrumentals chosen to play in the background are something else man
The irony of me buying a physical CD and then saving money for a speaker that can only play music via Bluetooth lmao. Love the convenience of that but ill always be a sucker for CDs and the like. Great video!
Underrated channel
Wowwww is that flying lotus? I was memorized for a second
Great video, a lot of good points made
This is a fascinating and well thought out analysis. I pretty much agree for the mainstream artists. I like that at the end you brought it full circle and said the current climate is actually good for independents. Looking forward to part two of this.
BTW, I so wanted to make a joke here about my new chill Afrobeat album just dropped, but I won't. LoL. Keep up the good work, Duplee.
Albums are NOT dying.
Good video. Seems like you put in a lot of work
I absolutely miss the era of artists coming out with “Era” albums. Where they wait 4 years then bam pop up with a re-invented sound, look, had a full package of a world tour, song releases, music videos. And they just hustle for a year or two straight with appearances, remixes, and what not. Those were some of the greatest times. Especially Michael Jackson. You knew the longer he took, the more wild his next era was gonna be.
There doesn't even need to be a long gap between albums. For example, the 70s prog band Yes. From 1971 to 1974 they released 5 albums, all unique, all 5 regarded as some of the greatest works in their genre.
it’s not about my short attention span is that i can tell if i like a song with the first 30 seconds max, and if i don’t like it i don’t like to waste time and continue listening to something i don’t like
Beyonce's Renaissance is proof that albums aren't dying.
I never heard it
Nah.. like 2 songs were hits and mostly because of Tik Tok challenge. She wasn't even top 15 as an overall albums sales last year. The album did not make it way through outside of her fandom hype.
That's why i still buy my albums on CD. I feel like it's the best way for me to experience them and have a personal connection with them. I would buy them on vinyl but i'm broke
the intro is me the first time i listen to an album, then the next time i start liking the songs i skipped
Im happy my attention span still can sit throughout a full yt video
your videos are great!
Analog to digital played a major role in the decline of most of the stuff. Nowadays we live just to follow some written stuff and die suffering
I saw so many people hating spotify. They say Spotify is destroying the music industry but piracy is a big problem for every creators and Spotify is helping them
As long as I still get 15-20 good to great albums every year... From major artists (Beyoncé Renaissance is supposed to be only Act I of III...) to independent artists (I own 40 Rhymesayers Vinyls and I live in Germany... all those were printed in the US and traveled across the ocean for me...).
And just to point that out: Vinyl Sales are on the rise for the 17th straight year.
U make very good content bro
intro was fye
The intro is so accurate
For me as a former Gen Z adult now, I can fully say “I have good taste in music” i only listen to full projects
I love listening to not popular music and my circle of friends always be telling me “You’re so edgy, bro tryna be unique” bruh, I just love music, Barry White, Jamiroquai, Kanye West, Lenny Williams, Fat Larry’s band, Alicia Keys, Childish Gambino, Car Seat Headrest, Azealia Banks, Bronski beat, Nelly Furtado, Tame Impala, Erykah Badu, J Dilla, Stevie Wonder, Travis Scott (Rodeo), Daft Punk, Kaytranada, I’ve listen to a lots of artists, lots of genres, these are the ones that I love so much, I put their albums playing all through to see their artistic visions and understand their projects instead of picking what I like, that way I end up liking the whole album.
"With The Beatles" and "Beatles for Sale" had no songs released as singles too.
Honestly, this is why an artist like Beyoncé is so important to albums and popular culture. She keeps the cohesion and storytelling alive not only sonically but also visually in a way that stills feels current, new, and exciting. Michael Jackson would be proud that she’s carrying the mantel and found out a way to revolutionize the LP in a climate that is trying so hard to reject it.
I'll be back in 5 years I'm holding you to your words
Last album I listened to from front to back was King's Disease lll and it was straight 🔥🔥🔥🔥
For those who didn't use an extension that hides end cards, the text at 17:21 says "Attention spans are dying" then it says "A Duplee series" finally it says "part 2 soon".
I'm sure you can uncensor the word at 8:19. So... is attention span suddenly a sensitive subject?
I love that you used The Code by IDK for one of the songs in the video, such an underrated but amazing song
editing is so nice
Honestly I’d argue the opposite is true, streaming has allowed entire albums to reach the hot 100 all at once. Just look at Midnights, 10 songs in the top ten all from one album. We’re in a new golden age of albums if you ask me.
Only Tyler keeps me interested in hearing out the whole album, it’s so masterfully interconnected
You should make a video about artist/producers making creative albums with (“movies” a video for every song, ex : Kanye MBDTF, Sturgil Simpson sound and fury, Conductor Williams Samo’s Revenge, Etc) ultimately creating a piece of full art