"Lando was MAGIC!" | Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard react to Imola & respond to Horner coverage
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- BONUS EPISODE: The day after the 2024 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, David Coulthard and Eddie Jordan get together for a bonus episode of FFS! They discuss their thoughts on the race, McLaren's improvements and clarify press reports regarding Christian Horner, Eddie and Adrian Newey.
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“*We* have yet to decide what Adrian himself wants to do” EJ 😂
yes he is going to design a new racing hull series for oyster yachts based on groundbreaking designs of the Americas cup..All this after enjoying his new oyster and help suitably disabled uk adults on the Global Oyster challenge
Then he will produce work for Ferrari, including a road going LME car with McLaren.
I understand EJ manages for Adrian. So while Adrian will make the ultimate choice, I take it EJ will be part of the "we" he mentioned.
@@AdrianDowthwaitethis right here. that’s exactly what Eddie was implying.
@@AdrianDowthwaite bingo
A rookie doing a sprint in my car before the big day….. bwahahahaha no chance
Personally the media has a tendency to lose sight of the facts/ truth! Love your podcast, zero click bait, bullshyt or ego!
They are simply doing their job and maximising their opportunities within the current envelope.
Another masterclass in banter. Thanks, gents.
I genuinely laughed out loud when DC gave EJ crap about his “two for me, one for you” accounting.
Excellent idea EJ on the sprint race.. 👍👍✌🇮🇪
Could you really see Max giving up his car to let a newbie have a thrash around in? You'd need a 3rd car if this to become a thing.
@@Hell-Hound1 or make it a 10-car race so each team got at least one untouched(uncrashed) car. I don't think the idea or others, are relevant. F1 Media owners want the big stars race anyway.
We need more Imolas. The new tracks without gravel is insane. No other sport allows you to be out of bounds without a penalty.
Is this sarcasm?
Yes and binning Monaco, despite the heritage and glamour it brings
WRC cut the track whenever they can
I agree we need more gravel on some tracks but they do not need to be like imola, because it's near impossible to pass on imola
imaging if instad of these almost parkings at Miami, Vegas, Madrid next... they created a big ass intense circuit with gravel
This is my first time listening to this podcast. I am such a huge fan.. these two together are a lot of fun to listen to..
I really enjoy DC as a commentator both on and off track. And EJ is such a character. Definitely going to have to lidten to the back catalogue
Lewis was a benchmark? I guess the benchmark for most British overrated and overhyped by the British media "driver".. by far!
Perhaps he should first win from his teammate like Russell, or Button, or Rosberg, Massa .. he is been outqualified by many teammates, so based on the titles he is a benchmark?
Lewis should be careful that he can hold at least one record in his career... almost all his records has been broken.
Seems like you’re not a fan of Lewis there
Careful about records? What do they even matter? The cars are now more reliable than ever, there’s more races in a season than ever, and you get 25 points for a win + extra from sprint races, fastest lap and pole.
If you get a dominant car, of course you’re going to achieve all the records as you’re on easy mode lol
@@1Pandemoonium Ham has that "easy mode" for 8 years. Max dominance is only 2 years running. Still Max gets the records. That's because he's a different driver: far more dedicated, consistant, faultless and motivated. Look at 2021 and the mistakes Ham made and his inconsistancy............
@@Eric-rf1is as I asked before, what does it matter?
As you said, they’re different drivers. Max lives and breathes racing, finishes real racing and does sim racing. Lewis has other things he enjoys doing with his life. Both lifestyles are fine and nothing to do with us.
They are both people that don’t care about you or me (no matter how angrily you talk shit about them or worship them in UA-cam comments), don’t care what we think, and do what they want to do in life.
Arguing or getting mad about it is sad and a waste of your life
@@1Pandemoonium Nah, its this bias which the British put on constantly. Problem lies that also Sky media tend to forget they are a internationally broadcasted channel were people do not have a choice then watching anything else then their twisted bias facts. Sky has monopolistic stand on the grid and you cannot be bias or even diminish a driver as what they constantly do with Max or Alonso or any driver that competes with Hamilton. If its not Hamilton they repeat Newey, and put him on a stand where he shouldn't be belong. Giving credits to the right people is what they should do and they are not doing that.
If you are an international channel you supposed to be as neutral as possible, not twisting facts in favor of your countrymen. Giving extra credits a person which shouldnt get them is very toxic and very annoying, Sky put Ham on the stand as a goat, which is false and this British propaganda is completely wrong in F1.
@@1Pandemoonium ....... he said, while commenting on a youtube post, with "arguments" to counter a post......... 🤣🤣🤡..... and re-commenting again....... 🤣
"saw really good over taking" with no competitive over takes all race what the hell is Jordon talking about.
whilst Lando needed a couple more laps, it reminded me of the glory days of Mansell on a charge.. was great to see, seems too often no one is able or willing to throw it to the wind and go for it.. don't know if it's the talent or the modern tyres. Kudos to Lando.
A Wendlinger Interview, and a new FFS, what a great way to start the day
McLaren is back and is fantastic!!!💪🔥🇬🇧
GREAT podcast,, EJ and David. totally agree with EJ, sprint race is a complete waste of time, in its present form,, but EJ idea is a brilliant one,,, new talent has to get a chance to perform,,,
the sprint idea is brilliant
What we do need for Imola to become more exciting again is to re-model Tamburello and Villeneuve to what they used to be, install tech pro barriers, and move the stream behind Tamburello underground to get a big run-off area. That way, we get an amazing run up to Tosa, which will give drivers more of an opportunity to overtake. That is one thing, the other thing is that we need smaller, narrower cars that provide a better slipstream, so we can get rid of DRS.
I'm glad that someone as prominent as Eddie is championing the sprint race for rookies idea.
It would b a great way to give these drivers a chance, and would add more interest to the race weekends.
Agree ,but using last year's cars ?
Potential wrecking of the current car for the Sunday race could be more than a slight problem !😅
So watch the same guys race F2 then race again in F1 cars because….. becauseeeee…. Um….. because….. help me out here…
@@fishyouwerehere3604 Because not all F2 drivers can cut it in F1, some drivers that do well in the lower categories don't always do well in F1 so by giving them the opportunities to race current F1 cars it would show the teams who's ready to make the switch to F1. When teams can see how the rookies are performing the teams won't taking as much risk if they decide to sign them up. I think it's a good idea but allowances might be needed regarding accident damage, if a car is damaged in the sprint then repairs shouldn't be included in the budget cap, also it might be a good idea to limit the sprint to one car per team, a grid with only ten cars might limit pile ups in the first corner etc . Waivers might be needed if the rookies don't have the required super licence points and the sprint races could also form a mini championship with the winner getting FIA sponsorship to race in F1 in the following season.
If Lando was magic then Max was absolutely phenomenal.
My dad would of love to see you two doing interviews together he love hearing drivers and owner who give there opinions ❤
there is a displaying issue i think you have 400k subs, not 40k.
They've been going for 1 month.
Give it time.
*_""Lando was MAGIC!"_*
Don't exaggerate so much, he quickly got closer because of the better tires.
The better tyres??! He stopped earlier than Max. They were the same compound and older than Max's. He looked after them better than everyone so a lot of credit goes to Lando.
Love your podcasts, it's great to listen to you both
Great idea EJ re Sprint race
I absolutely agree with EJ sprint races have no place in F1
Like he said maybe use em for up and coming Drivers
Lando wouldn't have passed max even with extra 2/3 laps
Catching is one thing passing is another
It makes me really happy to hear EJ talk about his sprint race ideas, because it's exactly what I think they should do but for some details that probably make EJ''s plan more realistic, given that he's Eddi feckin Jordan and knows how F1 works and I'm just a sofa person with a TV^^.
But It's cool to have an idea and then a year later you hear someone who actually knows the sport and is still in it's circles say almost the same thing. Now we just need EJ to become FIA president, or something ;)
Would like to compare Norris and Piastri Laptimes…. I think Piastri got bad luck recently but he’s as strong as Norris…
EJ good point re young drivers. Alonso and Hamilton should be retired after 40
This is the definition of quality content. Thank you very much, gentlemen!
Eddie is right...sprint race with 20 young new racers..so they can see whats out there.👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🏁🏁 best idea ever. And no more DRS. That sucks. Let them race for a place.🏎
i think Piastri is going a long long way, watch him go
No shit. If you are a betting person, you will be betting on the 1:1 options.
Eddie is dead-on about Patrick Head as he was terrible with drivers everything needed to be his way, even if he was wrong. He almost botched Frentzen first win for Williams because he wanted him to drive more aggressive and to not save fuel so it would look better on the broadcast🤦♂
That was and really is the best idea for Rookie Drivers! Let them do that Sprint Race! I mean i don't like them sprint what ever but with Rookies that would change the whole thing! What a cool Idea from Eddie!
Love to see McLaren back up there, it's been too long. Sucks the regulations will change just as they find performance with Ferrari closing in on red bull also.
EJ welfare of his people, shame on you.
Great idea to give young drivers a chance in sprint races. That would be fun to see. Until one guy wads up verstappen car.
EJ is bang on with the spint races having a 10GP limit for the drivers on the grid. Why don't the FIA lower the entry requirements and make it a way for the top 3 finishers to get a superlicence at the end of the season? it would be a super way of giving the latest talent a way in.
Total DC and EJ class as usual
The Real magic was Max in a struggling RB , ask perez ..! :)
Perez can't perform when he's in the most dominant car in history, he's no indication of whether or not redbull is struggling.
There are 4 spare grid slots. Room for 4 young drivers. Let some teams run an extra car, or build some Generic teams, running spec engines & chassis.
Get Frentzen or Irvine on this year I know Eddie probably say No 😊
You should record every interview/interaction with the press. When they whip out their digital voice recorder, you do the same.
5:50 That’s a fabulous idea!
Seriously, this would be a game changer for the sprint format. It gives it a unique use case, gives the reserve driver a much bigger emphasis, and would even drive demand to have more sprint races.
I can't imagine a world where drivers like Max, Lewis, Alonso would give up their car for a rookie, and risk crashing it in a sprint race. I don't think the teams would be too keen on the idea with cost caps either.
@@thebolsta just hav one car per team in the rookie sprint race. It would reduce the risk for the teams.
@@thebolstayep no chance teams ever agree to it.
@@the_lost_navigator7266 That would give half the grid a points advantage in the drivers championship.
not an Aussie, but for reasons that not important, i watch a lot of Aussie media, and i see very little about Oscar. He is still just a tad behind lando on tyre management, they approach weekends quite differently, but come quali and race, Oscar i believe is incredibly closely matched with Lando. I do believe McLaren have the best pairing in F1
Guys, do you think the media has got worse since Liberty took over F1? I think so. I regularly see e-zines with headlines like, "Former F1winner gives input on Horner issue" To me it is all click bait to get you to read the article. American TV invented reality TV and it seems that has influxed into the racing media.
Mclaren has another problem which is “Killer instinct” of the lack of it actually! I dont think Lando or Oscar has it to the degree Max has it. Thats why Max is very much hated and Lando and Oscar arent. I am curious if it changes once Mclarens car can challenge Redbull more and more
The reason people currently like Mcalren is cause they are the underdog against RB, that will change if McLaren become dominant
I'm not sure about the killer instinct in Lando but make no mistake Oscar is a very different deal and he has the backing, support and mentorship of Mark Webber
rookies in the sprint races..great idea. if teams can afford to run a 3rd car that is
14:17 (third comment, youtube will like that^^)
I think EJ is right, getting close and getting past isn't the same. Not to diminish Landos achievement, I still don't get how he managed to pull this, and he drove amazingly, but I think his only chance to win would have been to chase Max like a mad man and try to force him of track with all 4 wheels and to then win on a technicality. (or pass max when he goes off, but it's Max, so even a small mistake would be hard to force and since there was no time for that anyway, what does it matter?) On another track, yes one lap (or, you know... leaving the pit in front of Checko) could have done the trick, but not with those boat mobiles in Imola.
Others weren’t able to overtake their adversaries from even 0.5 seconds. Plus that Piastri wasn’t able to overtake a slower Sainz for many laps
If Williams get a new wind tunnel like McLaren, do they move up the field like McLaren ?
Please we need this podcast every post race from now on. 😄
Formula1 Mclaren Ferrari Red bull Mercedez Willians ;'
is it just me or Eddie keeps hinting that McLaren is signing Newey
ABOUT TIME EDDIE. I have been saying this for a few years now.
My idea was for teams to have the ability to sub drivers - and have a compulsary two Substitutions a year for each team.
I am a big fan of Drugovic and Pourchaire - i think they are stronger than the likes of even Bearman and Lawson if you compare their F2 records.
Sprints for the academy drivers.
It also forces regular drivers to up their games.
Eddie Jordan - why are you not president of the FIA???
Dont worry DC i Get ya Media always Twist things
f1 is so boring now i would rather watch paint dry
EJ, that was a great speech about Adrian and Ferrari, but how’s it going to look if he joins Ferrari?
There was only 1 "Driver of the Day" .. and that wasn't Lando .. such a shame !!
I would have voted differently, but was to much into this potential battle to vote :D
EJ's idea is the only thing that would make sprint races any thing other than a waste of time and money
We need a new race formula comprised of old farts only, a bit like the tennis.
So what would the oldtimers of the current grid do? Switch to Folmula Old? 😂
"I hate sprint races." Face wall please.
Great idea on the sprint EJ
Mclaren not too late change your Mind Lewis 😉
It's hard not to like Nando! :D
Folks making stuff up to get views.... I called out a certain reporter photographer the other day! I said talk with Adrians manager.... They didnt even know he was managed! LOL
13:00 I think Oscar is "scary" (in a really good way), he isn't there yet but he's much closer than a year ago and if he plays his cards right, has the needed luck with the car and all that, two or three years from now he could be something special. On his day he has Charles one lap pace and (at least for a few laps) Landos race pace. All he needs is more experience and to learn from all the things worth learning. I honestly think he could get "Max good."
This has become my favorite podcast, thank you guys😀
Liam ought to have been in the car for the whole year..... he's already lost at least one year, now two....
Love your podcast brother Coulthard with Eddie Jordan so professional and knowledgeable and very informative! Keep it up mate ! I’ve met you on many occasions in Bahrain and Saudi as my family were ine of the investors in Saudia Williams in that Era being I’m half Saudi half British and were dear friends with Frank and Patrick head and obviously Alan Jones! Keep up your talented spectacular performance on this sensational podcast! Cheers ! 🇬🇧🇸🇦🇬🇧🇸🇦
Another brilliant episode and insight
David this is your question...is an Eddie dinner party a time to remember ?
Thank you for this suprise podcast… we haven’t decided what to do.. I think that’s EJ code for whatever number you’re thinking of teams 1-5 you need to go back to your piggy banks and add 40%. 15 for Adrian and of course 25% for the bold EJ. Yachts don’t grow on trees you know.
I really would like to see young drivers do the "sprint weekends" and some of the back markers to have fill ins like David was thinking
EJ’s ideas for the sprints is quite good. Reserve drivers only, goes towards constructors . Interesting, but it would never happen
Going back to Murray Walker he uesd to say it's one thing catching a driver than passing him.
There not. Grow up the pair of you.
Sprint race format: Great idea, Eddie!
Two extremely knowledgeable F1 insiders providing much needed clarity on an exciting 2024 F1 season…thanks!
Enjoyed that, thanks guys! Do love the banter and of course Eddie never sits on the fence! 🙂
Actually LOVE EJ's idea for the sprint races.
Hakkinen,Brawn,Irvine or Prost interview at Monaco?
McLaren doesn’t need Newey, Ferrari or Williams would only make the most sense, what role does McLarens involvement in INDY help them in their organizational transformation.
Imola corners need to be reverted back to 1994.
Who are you trying to kill?
@@Rockypackboa Old Tamburello would be no more dangerous than many corners on current calendar. Combined w/ current safety upgrades to cars and barriers, it would eliminate the risk associated with conditions 30 yrs ago. In current form Imola is just a shadow of its prior greatness.
both of these two men offer hilarity and honest evaluations
only one comment many might agree with
in msport F is far too accentuated
let's kick it away and apply fresh clean fillers showing real mind over matter
Don't think people understand DC stepped into Dead man racing boots. I can remember boo's that Senna car should have been retired. Huge huge pressure on such a young driver at Silverstone. Biggest take away was FIA Doctor Sid Walkins was put in charge of safety, insured it would never happen again.
Watching DC and Eddie taking the piss out of each other is just hilarious, especially when Eddie is such an easy target 😆
Nice to get some content from people who are actually in the sport.
Quiet! David. 4:04
David! Look Logan is still a new Driver learning and Albon was sitting in a Grand Prix Winning Car! Give em time! I think Logan S. with a better Team and Personal give him a chance! Williams is a wreck! Both the Car and how they manage Drivers! They are Awful!!!
Again a very appreciated podcast! I'm a long-long-time fan of motorsport in general and i'm really looking forward to see how Eddy's idea unfolds for the Formula Rookie Races! (Fomula F1RR!
That would be so exciting!
"A little foot massage" Lol 😀
Amazing podcast, finally, such a refreshing break from the current media posts. Thank you gentlemen.
What I really enjoy is the cameraderie between the younger drivers off the track without the helmet. Max and Lando are great friends and also rivals but they respect each other. Max was genuinely happy for his friend to win his first race. That is special. The media loves to create drama where there is none. I think few drivers truly hate each each other.
Totally agree with EJ..f***in sprint races only for young drivers! Bearman Antonelli Lawson Drugovich and so on..that would be nice!
Just discovered this show and WOW Ive missed this banter after loosing BBC F1. Subbed
Nando Lorris!!!
Miss f1 in the 90s early 2000 years
These new tracks outside Europe are boring
We need more tracks in Europe
Bring back magny cours Estoril hockinheim brands hatch
Only for Lando Oscar and McLaren f1 would be more boring than it already is
Be same with sir lewis and Charles as well as lando and Piastri see crack to Happen between them.
You can’t always tell from 1 or 2 races in f1, although they do tend to impress by out performing the team mate. ‘Oscar’ didn’t just beat Lando on Saturday 👀🧐🤔🤐👍🏼
I've said the following about sprint races until my blue face is almost Scottish;
The winning driver gets 2 points, all other finishing the race gets 1 point apiece. The teams get the points normally awarded to drivers and teams combined.
Anticipated affect;
1) opportunity for different drivers to show skills & potential
2) strategic positioning of cars during race to benefit team over drivers
3) refreshing slant on a much loved sport.
I'll stop short of introducing a ford/stream crossing, but then again......?
F1 hasn't been the same without Jordan F1....EJ needs to get back on the grid & bring some life back in the paddock
This is why the Ch4 coverage is so much better ( in my humble ) than the Sky.
Despite Sky having ex drivers and presenters from previous incarnations, Ch4 ( or more importantly Whisper and DC ) are more connected to the deep heart of F1, they aren't just there to present a race, they manage drivers and personal, have close friendships with others and that gives what is meant to be a 2nd fiddle highlights team as much if not more clout and access than the big money players.
Thank you for saving free to view coverage, keep doing what you're doing and hopefully one day Liberty will see the value in free to air full coverage and do the opposite to FE which I watched for 10 years before it got put behind a paywall.
It'd be a shame for over 30 years of F1 watching to go the same way.
Feel the new iteration of F1 is more bling than anything else. Indy 500 qualifying was far more interesting than Imola....
I hate sprint races. Created purely for money. It’s too long and it’s no different than a normal race. Conserving tyres. Should be a 10-12 lap softest tyres. No penalty if you have damaged your car for the main race. Flat out 10laps. It’s totally pointless and I’m sure the viewing figures will show that far lower than the main race