John Lovell HOME Security Breach | Could've been BAD
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2022
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Tracking down where this man was "living in the woods" for "a couple days", near your home, would be valuable for future reference, verification he was alone (or not), ascertaining if anyone else knew he was there (they may come for his belongings, dope, etc.), determining the route(s) and how far he traveled to get to and from that location; future expectations and planning.
An excellent point!!
I was thinking that too. He said he fell in with a bad crowd, so there may be more of them in the woods cooking.
I agree with this i would be looking into nearby woods with neighbors maybe and seeing if there is anyone else camping out generally
@@chriswindham1822 the humidity would ruin the cooking process if they were cooking it in the woods, as a former addict myself, addicts are never too far from a dealer. someone in john's area is their hook up and the woods is just a rent free area that wouldnt draw attention to their guy.
Thank you for telling an operator how to operate. I'm sure he didn't know that.
Takes a real man to share experiences like this so others can learn
100%
Very true!
Then let me tell you about the last time I got crabs….
Was thinking the exact same thing. No body knows everything, we need to share to better ourselves
UKSF?.., another Walter Mitty because any UKSF wouldnt have a profile name like UKSF.., away and give yerself a shake mate.
John, we recently experienced a wildfire in our area and it forced all my neighbors to evacuate. My wife and I stayed, fought and kept our home from burning. We live deeper in the woods then most. It was very challenging. What it did was allowed us to exercise our "end of the world" plans in real time. We prepped our home, packed our valuables, and so on fearing we may lose it all. We stayed awake for 2 days with no help from the gov't agencies because the danger was to much for them and we defended our home and our lives. This isnt the point of the story though. After the fire passed, and we where left alone at our house we laid low. What comes after evacuations? Theft. We defended our neighbors homes, as well as ours from local tweakers, and believe it or not - some private firefighter companies. World travels fast in the shitburg thieving community. We had 3 confirmed brake-ins a few miles away. I was able to effectively catch 1 subject and keep many away from empty homes. I'm still sitting at my home, not working and losing money defending our turf and my neighbors homes because they have not returned. Moral of the story - plan, practice, and never give an inch.
Appreciate and Applaud the Exemplary display of your Courage, Sincerity and Ethics, under extreme duress and under fire (in every literal sense of the word!)
Bravo!
Hope the world takes notice of your Selfless Service, one day, Kind Sir!👏👏👏
Kudos sir... though you had to stand long watches with little/no help, just know that should members of the "shitburg thieving community" go "missing"... no one in .gov looks too hard for them. ;')
@@MajorCaliber Yeahhh Babyyyy... That's what I am talking about!
BANG... BANG... BANG... BANG!!!
"One Shot, One Kill... No Luck, All Skill."
There is no greater Scent in this world, than the Scent of a 'Like Minded Individual'... Way To Go, Bud! 👊
Ya screw evac orders. I a staying. If th looters can come in they got no authority to force you to leave.
Wow!!! You're some hero!!! :O
As a k9 trainer for 15 years, I can offer two considerations: 1) don't advertise you have a guard dog. While effective, with prior notice, they are fairly easily neutralized 2) if you and your family can accommodate it, more than one dog is a HUGE advantage. While not always desirable or workable, the teammate aspect of two trained dogs is a real tactile boon. Thanks for all you do, I never fail to learn something from your videos!
Many states require you do. Many states will also prosecute you even if they are 'just doing their job' and bite someone. Although OP just held a dude at gunpoint (you missed that, assault, aggravated by the firearm, possibly feloniously depending on jurisdiction - and unlawful arrest by ordering him around clearly leading him to believe he was in custody or was no longer free to leave, you also missed that - dunno what k9 unit you're with but c'mon man I'm across the planet and I know this) so I guess he's not worried about charges.
@@bashkillszombies In my state if someone trespasses onto your property you have a legal right to to detain and question them only to the extent of determining if they're a threat or not. This is exactly what happened and once he realized the guy was not a threat and in immediate medical need he responded appropriately. Also, there was no assault or unlawful arrest period. If there is reason to believe imminent bodily harm or death is possible then detainment with use of proper force was warranted. A fully grown man, haggard looking, that trespassed all the way across his land, ending up on his front porch, and only twenty feet from his youngest son. That's reasonable cause for use of force until no threat is found. Also, I wouldn't be worried about charges vs protecting my son PERIOD. Their life is more valuable and precious than possible conviction from laws that conflict with inalienable right to self defense of self or others.
I’m a cop in a major city, and live hours away in the middle of nowhere. My experiences as an officer have caused me to adopt a personal rule: “if I have a reason to put pants on, I have a reason to have a handgun in the waistband”. John’s totally correct in how miserable it is. I’ve developed a callous on my hip bone from working the farm with a gun over the years. I’ve had intruders, and also had it become a shit show. The most valuable lessons are gained from the incidents that go sideways.
Pete, could you maybe give me some advice in reference to my comment? What do I do? I want to be able to protect but feel like I will be charged for trying to protect.
I too wear a handgun at all times on my farm. I changed my carry gun to an ultralite .38 special revolver due to the constant nagging on my side. So glad I changed guns to an ultralite. No pain at all now.
I carry a small LC9S Ruger 9mm in my front pants pocket. I’m so used to it, I don’t even notice it’s there. I Use a DeSantis pocket holster. It goes in the minute I put pants on, and comes out when I take them off at night. It goes everywhere I go. I work with it around the property, in the workshop, everywhere, and it never bothers me! I have to blow a lot of dust, dirt, wood chips, etc out of it often. Not a problem!
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Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch, Pat McNamara of TMACS, Travis Haley of Haley Strategic, and other reputable trainers are available throughout the country.
All the high speed gear, or even a .38 snub nose, won't be worth much without training.
While being a good shot is important, knowing when to shoot is equally important.
I live in town and I’m always armed. Pants on, gun on. That includes yard work, changing the oil in the car and anything else that needs done. We don’t get to choose the moment of truth. I’ll second the comment on it being an actual pain. My choice of arms for such activities are a Kahr PM40 or M&P Shield. Thin and lightweight go a long way to making it bearable.
My biggest concern about driving him to the hospital is you don't know if "the wrong crowd" up in the woods is going to come through while you're gone, and your family is on their own. Thankful everything turned out OK.
Yea I'd have never done that. Would have just called the ambulance/police and waited. Not my problem if he ODs...
Chris I absolutely agree & thought the exact same thing.
Pandemicgameplay watching someone od & die on your front porch (where your wife & children will probably somehow see) is a much udlier & traumatic sight then people realize.. & quite often more violent (when the od is from an upper like meth) then people realize. Getting medical help was the right call BUT I do agree that leaving the property with the man was dangerous.
@@PandemicGameplay I'm with you there these tweakers know the risk when they decide to do the drugs. They are constantly trying to get more high and this is what happens they know better than anyone.
Do you guys even watch his channel and know who he is and his history? It's nice you were concerned about him and his family but I assure you he had them covered and knew that. Living in the country ain't the city and time does matter, good call on his part. He saved a life and removed the threat. Do not go ad nauseum on scenarios either if you've never expereinced it watch and learn and do what you think is best for you and your family knowing your limitations and strengths.
Removing strongest chess peice is very dangerous
One thing I can think of is having a handheld radio on your person when away from your house. Gives you the ability to communicate with people in the house or other side of the property without needing a cell phone.
Giving his kids radios to keep on them too as he leaves the house to keep in contact with them is a good idea as well! Good point though!!
We do this with our kids. waterproof VHF radios and whistles go with every kid everywhere they go on our property. We've also given them to two different neighbors near our property where the kids like to play (or who have kids our kids play with). They were inexpensive, they work over a much larger distance than walkie talkies, and have light encryption that keeps them mostly safe non-smart radio users. Our biggest problems are the kids like to wear them from a neck lanyard and they often get smashed into the creek. They come in 4 packs from Amazon so we just bought extras.
I work estate security and personal protection and a radio is one of our main tools we use daily. Great idea
This was my thought, too. I get not wanting to have a phone on you at all times, so I thought it might be a good idea to keep handheld radios if you have young kids at the house and you have to be away from the house--but on the property--doing chores or maintenance.
I Live in South Africa, on a farm. We don't have the luxury of saying we can walk around not being armed 24/7. We are a close community and have good relationships with local law enforcement. But as Officer Greg always says, “nobody is coming, it's up to you ". Thank you for all your advice. You always have insight and points from another angle. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Sterkte. Ons het in '91 Texas toe getrek. Baie lekker hier.
Also in SA God be with you
@@Daani_the_boer I have a friend called Danny in SA, but it's probably not you!!!!! 😂😂
Yeah I'm also in South Africa. This year I bought an extra 1000 9mm P rounds...
That doesn’t sound like South Africa to me…
Welcome to being a civilian. There are times where you have a lapse in security. It takes unreasonable fortitude to be 100% secure in a non wartime environment.
Are we in non-wartime now?
@@davidfong1565 well seeing as the IRS is already bulking and the ATF is roaming free, I would say it’s pretty questionable times.
Well said..it's not perfect and the country is screwed up but I live in a small town and this happens alot
Or unreasonable money.
@@davidfong1565 was going to say the same thing.
Military ER doc here. Glad everything worked out and nobody got hurt.
In general, unless your dealing with someone bleeding out from penetrating trauma, it's better to wait for EMS arrives. If the guy codes you can do high quality CPR, position his airway, and not risk crashing at 100mph on the way to the hospital. If he codes or seizes or aspirates in the backseat there's not much you can do except drive faster.
Love you guys and what you do. Take care.
A while ago I looked into carrying Naloxone in a med kit but the cost didn't make sense for my situation. John, that might be something worth adding. @Man Medicine, any experience that using it?
@@BrandonToone These days it's not a bad idea. Just keep in mind with some of these fentanyl derivatives you may need to give more than you would for a typical opiate overdose. Unfortunately, I use that stuff in the ER almost every day.
Can people handle the truth? If a drug addict codes out in front of you. Let him go! Unless you'd like a nice case of hepatitis. The exception being if you happen to have a mask with a one-way valve or an inflation bag. Most people don't carry those things with them.
BECAUSE, preserving your role as a father is more important than helping some loser who will sooner or later do himself in with his problems. Preservation is more important than some sort of gain!
@@BrandonToone can anybody administer that to anyone under good Samaritan protection?
@@manmedicine Some rescue people are being injured by just touching people who over-dosed on fentanyl. When giving artificial respiration, etc..
Add radio communications throughout your farm. What humility you have by putting this out there. I have never respected you more. Keep inspiring all of us to be better, train more, and be more vigilant.
Thank you for this share John. We live on a farm in South Africa, where violent farm attacks are the order of the day. Always great to learn something new in order to better our security.
Good luck hope Africa turns around.
@@a.N..... and does what looks at the south pole?
@@morrisonandrew2521 what did you just try to say?
Hear SA farms can be dangerous for sure
Official government statistics are censored by the ANC government but the highest figures state that 3398 farmers have been killed in farm attacks since 1994.
This is a growing problem everywhere. They don’t regard signs or cameras when high. Wether they are looking for help or trying to rob you. You did the right thing and saved this guys life but the next one might not be looking for help. Love your content. I watch every video. Glad your son and family is safe!
Addicts and crazy people ARE the zombies we've heard about.
True. Imagine if it was a ploy for a group of them to rob you while you're taking him to the hospital/on the phone.
@Clyde2 why are you posting dumb links that have nothing to do with this video
@@mulishadelta Probably a scam link, I wouldn’t click it.
@@zanna9857 His wife knows how to use weapons, they were not abandoned.
No need to be embarrassed John. You are doing the Lords work by helping us all be a bit safer and vigilant in life. God bless.
the fbi may have dropped him off nearby
The lords work?, give yourself a shake dude.
@@formhubfar ok, the Father's work if that makes you feel better.
@@maverickpaladin4155 Since when did either tell us to mistrust everyone we meet?, not much brotherly love in this video but hey, you do you and I will do me.
@@formhubfar >not much brotherly love
The man protected his family first, and potentially saved the life of a rando druggie.
What's your definition of brotherly love, mindless trust that puts your family in danger and letting people die?
Mr Lovell Thank you very much for sharing this! I am a retired ER Nurse,and have had many encounters with individuals while on meth,as well as other street drugs.
I commend you for your heroic actions.
Based on my experience, I always worry about someone experiencing a psychotic break, and from their it is game on.
This is love at its finest... You speaking the truth about what you have learned as life constantly tests all of us. I appreciate you Brother!!!
This is a perfect example of “no matter how much you plan, there will be factors out of your control that you can do little to nothing about.”
That guy could have been delusional and killed your son. He had been living in the forest by your house for days. For days he could have made his move. His friends may still be in the area.
I’m sure you chose that location carefully, but meth heads moved in nearby.
This is a lesson to us all to run scenarios with our kids, and a lesson that there will be factors out of your control.
Thank you for sharing this with us. Your humility and honor tell of your character.
I have so much to do regarding home security
Couldn't have said it better myself.
So true...When drugs are involved unpredictable threats are introduced..You are right...Where are the friends? How many are there? Will they come back?...Never stop preparing...I am glad he was honest and true....Great video.
I would be just as concerned for a wildlife in counter… and it can be as equally unpredictable… living in rural areas you have to be prepared for all kinds of things to walk out of the woods…
My pistol stays on me constantly.
It's on me when I'm mowing the lawn.
It's within reach when I'm in the shower/tub.
It's on my bedside table when I'm in bed.
It comes with me if I get up at night for a glass of water.
I'd rather deal with carrying than the consequences of not carrying.
I agree with you.
Something similar just happened at our home a few days ago. I came back to rewatch your video and read the comments for more ideas. I keep spinning this in my head as a blessing perit's a blessing. A blessing that it happened before SHTF has totally hit. It is given us time to fill in the gaps. But it is so unsettling.
Much appreciation for the real-life example and the lessons learned. This helps us all to improve.
I can’t make up my mind if this guy picked the wrooooong house, or if picking your house is the one thing that saved his life. Regardless, a very enlightening story and lesson.
Really appreciate you sharing something we can all learn from. My $0.02: leave your phone on the side-by-side, but wear a smart watch. Turn off all notifications except your security system. This way you can still get motion alerts but be pretty disconnected from everything else. Works for me, but YMMV.
As always, great content
I was thinking the same thing. It looks like john had a smart watch so if he had notifications on it would of let him know.
These are good ideas.
Could’ve just had his phone on the side by side with full volume too with only the security notifications on as well if he doesn’t want a smart watch. That and carry his pistol and I feel like he would’ve been better off.
The SOP aspect of these moments is huge. Thanks for sharing, glad all is well.
Thanks for sharing John! This is the reality we must acknowledge and you are very humble to open up about this incident. God bless you and your family and continue to keep watch over you as you fight the good fight!
I remember being a boy and parents teaching me never to open doors to strangers, if answering a phone never admit to being alone (mom is in the shower, dad is outside/busy), things like that. I think some parents are afraid of scaring their kids with security training, but if you make it seem like a normal thing (or in this case they realize it is important) it will help them feel prepared. Knowledge for different situations keeps them from having to improvise or try and help someone vs staying safe.
Always teach them to say that mum or dad is talking with the police officer at the front gate, or dad is cleaning his shotgun, and doesn’t want to be disturbed. 😜
Have them say loudly with long pauses between words, "Dad! Dad! Dad!" followed by, "He can't come to the phone right now."
You never lied 👌🏾 og was on that with me and my friends when we were younger she would even tell us about cars/vans driving slow and NEVER accept the candy
Hey man quick question can you answer This for me.. I left the comment on this guy's channel and then somebody contacted me back saying you won a prize of a brand new gun on his channel and they want me to pay a $135 for shipping … is this a scam or what… if anyone knows how to get ahold of John they need to let him know that someone's scam in his channel
@@STATION26ADDISON yeah, I just reported someone a few comments above yours pulling one of those scams. They're ALL OVER youtube right now, on all types of channels. Report them and never fall for anything like it that you see in the comments.
Good Story, great lessons to be learned. I spent 30 years in LE in Southern California. There I lived in a typical suburb where we had a home security system. I always carried, even at home. Twice it was a good thing I did. When cell phones became available, I also always carried one on me. It does not rule my life, it allows me communicate if I need to. After I retired, we fled Kalifornia and became political refugees in a free state on 24 acres. We have no security system, except two Anatolian shepherds. I still carry 24-7, pistol and cell phone, even when mucking out stalls, feeding horses and doing yard work like cutting down/chopping up trees. I will tell you, that I would never have put a stranger, much less one on drugs in my car. I would have let LE and EMS deal with him. Also, he may not have been the only one and leaving my family alone would not have been an option. Just my thoughts and experience. Would love to see a video on cameras and security systems.
I couldn't have said it better. I agree with you 100%.
Amen...let LE deal with druggies...where were the "wrong crowd" companions?? You drive off with him while they could still be lurking in the woods around your wife and children?? Not good John
We bought our house from an older couple & shortly after we moved in a I noticed my dogs making a commotion near my front fence just after dark. As I looked out the window I saw an S10 pickup with its flashers on the side of the road. I’m surrounded by Army CoE & State WMA land on all but 1 side. I grabbed my pistol and approached the 4’ tall fence with it behind my back. The guy said his truck ran out of gas and asked about the little old couple that used to live there. I returned to my years as an MP and was firm but fair telling him that they no longer lived there, while also making it apparent that I was armed. I got him a small can of fuel so he and his female companion could get on their way. He was very obviously on meth, and even in the dusk she also appeared to be an addict as well.
I wanted them to know that this was no longer the home of a frail old couple. Since this time I’ve had other curious disturbances and instead of checking out the property with only my HK USP, I now will make that investigative patrol with a 300blk pistol. It’s not just 2 legged predators around here but lots of large wild pigs, bobcats, coyotes, as well as reports of mountain lions moving through the area.
Number 1 thing to do if you believe in self defense? Get out of Caloco fast. If you inocently defend yourself in Caloco? Always keep one bullet in the chamber, for yourself, because the Caloco DA will send you to jail.
Couldn't agree with you more. Short stint at SBSO Rancho Cucamonga station. Now in Florida. I learned and got very lucky with a meth head encounter. Compassion almost got me killed.
First of all John I’m glad you and the family are ok. What a hair raising situation….I thank you for sharing it. This world is a crazy place…..Like you said we all must continually learn. We all must gain more knowledge to better ourselves and those around us. I have learned a lot from your videos and I can’t thank you enough. Everyday, the work continues.
Bless you for your humility in describing a less than optimal experience, there are many learnings in this for others as a result
Almost a year & a half ago I was attacked in my home by a meth crazed, home invading pervert in broad daylight. He exposed himself & attacked me at my back door after trying to get in my front door. I was able to get out from under him & pull a gun on him to get him to leave. I totally get the vulnerability you feel. I made several changes after my experience. Btw, he’s now spending 4 years incarcerated & getting deported when he gets out. There’s no doubt these experiences change a person; their perspective & their actions & how they carry out their lives afterwards.
Glad you got to your firearm! Hope he still gets deported!
My curiosity is why didn't you smoke the disease?
That’s some scary shit! Glad you got out alright
You do what you feel appropriate for each incident, but I likely would have killed him. You have to live with your decision, but the way I'd l I'd look at it, by terminating him, you potentially could have save saved someone else's life or health in the future, either here or wherever he came from.
"...and getting deported", that says it all right there... glad the second amendment protected you and that you're ok.
My wife and I tell our children "adults will never ask a kid for help." I know it's a little different. We also say "If they ask if your parents our home" answer yes.
Honorable move, John. Thank you for sharing and allowing us to learn from the things you're learning from too.
While the majority of this video saddens me that we have to be on like this, I do think that the meth user was aware enough to approach you during the poultry chores when your dog is placed in the run. Even our predator animals (eagles and coyotes) learn those routines.
ive been to johns house and I cant believe they got passed the laser rifles, motion sensors, ultrasonic detectors, moat with alligators, mine field, and adt alarm sign.;)
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@@Irishcream216 Right over your head...
Now that's funny, ty Mike
It’s amazing how many extra xp you get from meth
I'm just amazed at your honesty about this to the world. One of the reasons I like your channel and its just the respect I have for you as a man. Not just the cool gun stuff
Guardline motion sensors.
They're motion sensors that send a wireless signal to a main box inside your house that sounds an alarm. No this isn't an ad. I actually have one.
Up to a half mile signal
Program up to 8 different "zones" and each has their own alarm sound so you know where the activity is.
Very sensitive too.
It’s a good experience and tactical education but I don’t think John was in any danger
@@jimsteinway695
Only because it was a medical emergency.
If the guy had a violent reaction to the drugs, if it was anyone with the intent to hurt him or his family, someone very well could have been harmed. His child in particular.
Love his morals, virtues and honesty.... not to mention his faith.
Nothing like a debrief and lessons learned. Awesome job brother!
Wow scary moments. Thank you for the heads up. This data is helpful and showed me holes in my security. John, as always EXCELLENT !
We're all glad you, your wife and the boys are safe John. It takes a real man to admit a mistake and actually learn from it, it takes a better man to share it with a whole bunch of people like you are now
John, you're awesome! I am an ex C130 pilot and deployed to OEF, OIF, and HOA. Thanks for sharing your story. There are some really comfy belly bands or chest rigs you can use while doing chores on your farm. I carry when out on my properties, you're just too far away. My dad was 82nd Airborne, Rangers and he said to me something I will never forget: "A gun is like a parachute, and if you ever find yourself needing one and don't have it, there's a good chance you'll never need one again"
And while a long gun is better for long distances, it's tough to have on you. Maybe a sling on an AR or AR pistol that can be grabbed headed out the door. No perfect solutions. Thanks again for all you do to serve our 2A community and our country. God bless!!
I use a belly bad holster with my Glock 19, I could even hold a second mag if I wanted to
Love the quote from your old man. I teach parachuting to NSW, and, as a California resident, had to jump through hoops to get my CCW, which got approved a week ago.
Have you ever watched ReachPilot? He is currently flying the C130j for the USAF.
Thank you for your humility in sharing this experience. Definitely valuable.
Very scary for sure. Glad to see you are being transparent and showing us that you’re also adapting to uncertain times. Something to take away is where we’re these guys living in the woods? Close? Watching your moves? God speed and stay safe.
Leaving the shotgun behind was a huge mistake! It's not unusual for there to be 2 assailants. One a decoy while the other approaches from a different direction.
Absolutely reckless move.
Unexpectedly and suddenly facing the muzzle of your own shotgun in the hands of an unknown intruder is a nightmare unto itself, especially with your vulnerable family present.
Sling that tool and keep it available and immediately within reach during any dynamic situation where it’s already been deployed until the all-clear can be positively assured.
Armchair civilian with zero training speaking. Out.
Sounds like the cops need to sweep the "woods" near your house...
..... I'm pretty sure he has a qualified set of friends that can sweep the woods, why bother the untrained.
@@darknesscomesforallofus4632 if John doesn't own those woods, there would be a jurisdictional problem for sure...
there's always a hitch when trying to lawfully contain the lawless...
but affirming your point, the property owner would be the only valid requestor of LE services unless PC or exigent circ exists.
You did a fantastic job. You’ve included your family in the lessons learned and plan to make some subtle changes.
“No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength.”
Live life, enjoy your family, be prepared but not obsessive.
Hi John and thanks for sharing your story. I am glad that everyone is safe, and i am sure that you will evaluate your situation and use good judgment to make wise changes if needed.
God bless!
Simple solution on a property like yours not to have a “connected” device on you all the time: two way radio. Not the most secure overall, but for simple communications that seems like an easy fix. Also this video earned my subscription. Thanks for your candor and realism.
definitely a good old school idea that works quite well.
Nick report this winner prize scam ASAP, we’re contacting John .
Look at getting either GMRS or MURS radios. GMRS can have more power and external antennas but require a license. A license costs about $35 (last I checked) and covers you and your immediate family.
MURS is not as known and popular but requires no license. Power is limited but it's enough to cover several square miles (depending on terrain). This is what I recommended for my friend's 400 acre property. Works great.
I'm not mentioning the ham radio option because it requires each person who uses a radio, to be licensed.
@@andrewevanoff1192 Yes, and even a ham radio can be used by anyone in an emergency, licensed or not.
"Could've been bad" for the intruder
“Call an ambulance… but not for me” hahahaha
I’ve always gone by the “never open the door for strangers” thing that goes back to childhood.The Maverick 88 is always handy and it’s habit to put on the 43 as I’m getting dressed in morning. Since I live in a little single family home on a street with other houses, It’s good to know the neighbors.
Glad you and your family are safe and this all ended on a positive note. Take care man.
As an officer in LA. It sounds like you did the best you could have.
Maybe have your family use two way radios (sense you don’t want to be attached to your phone). While you’re doing farm/yard work.
That way someone can be going to a phone while you’re dealing with the threat.
Very good lessons for us all to learn in this story.
Radios are a good idea for instant emergency contact. I like it 👍
This seems to be reasonable medium point. Good suggestion.
You must have a lot of privileges (to have access to proper means of protection) that a lot of ordinary citizens in your city don't.
@@PrimericanIdol fortunately the sheriff is granting CCWs to be people in LA county. He is very BASED, hopefully people re-elect him. But I tell people all the time (citizens) exercise your 2A rights. The police can’t be there for you always, especially when it matters.
Yes I am blessed, but not because of my job.
I think you’re plan is great. The only thing I would add is to periodically check your perimeter to see if there are people living in the woods around your property.
Dumb question but what is the proper way to handle in a situation like that?
Flir on a drone. Try the duo. Problem sovled. Even the kids can do it.
Good advice. Not sure how much land John owns, but for me that is a huge undertaking. 300+ acres, 2 farms (a few miles apart) . That in itself is full time job. Unfortunately I'm a army of one.
@@sloppyoppie my exact idea. Drone survey the surrounding areas. And maybe even set up some type of covert surveillance at a set distance surrounding your property as a first line security trigger.
You could probably automate a drone to make a periodic sweep. I think that the dog plan is the best option though.
29 yrs retired LEO.. Some days you just gotta roll with it. I love your channel and you do a great job.. Thanks for sharing.
I’m not going to tell you what you already know. I’m just thankful that you and your family are safe and healthy. Blessings to you and please, never stop doing what you do!
I truly appreciate you sharing this experience with us.
As a former "security professional" I can say you can never be prepared for every type of event you may encounter.
That being said, that is definitely a strange encounter you had!
Glad everything worked out and you and the family are safe.
It's important to avoid getting too comfortable, too. One thing I've learned during my trade apprenticeship and my previous job in asset protection is that security at many places is surprisingly lax, mostly because people get comfortable with a false sense of security. You're right that one can never be prepared for absolutely everything but one can always minimize the possibility that one encounters a circumstance for which one is unprepared simply by paying attention.
As a father of tiny ones myself, this really hit me and gave me something to chew on. Thanks for sharing this story John, people need to be reminded that security matters, but also you need to live. I am glad your family is safe and healthy. That moment where you verbalized the worst-case scenario really shook me, as I'm sure it did you and your wife. Thanks again for letting us in on a vulnerable moment and using it as a teaching moment!
As I posted in other sections, I'd consider a security duress code or a simple word, phrase you can text, say that alerts others ⚠️ to threats, danger. We had a duress code at my 2nd Army MP duty station. We could calmly say it in radio traffic or on a phone 📞.
Hi John, love to hear what you and your family are doing. I'd like to share my experience as a woman. I owned 40 acres in Northern Az. And lived up there alone with only my puppy. There were all sorts of critters that could harm me so I carried a gun in a holster on my hip whenever I was out of the cabin. It becomes a part of one's clothing. My children are grown but if I lived there with children I would definitely not be without my gun.
I have had my German shepherd for 4 years. Pretty much, if I'm not at work, she's by my side. But since my daughter was born 2 months ago, she has one job, which is to be by my daughter all the time. while I miss having her in my truck when I'm running around town, I feel a lot better knowing she has eyes on my daughter.
Really appreciate your openness with this, and allowing others to learn from a situation that some may consider embarrassing.
Something to consider....we have a barn and chicken coop within 10 feet of each other, that are both about 200 yds from our home. The entire property is fenced, and the driveway is gated with a call box, but if someone really wanted in they could jump the gate. For situations like this we have a secure container in the barn with an IFAK, longarm, and a sidearm with a belt and holster (G19 with IWB sidecar holster + Kore belt). It eliminates the "need" to have a pistol on our person at all times, but doesn't leave us feeling awkward or naked in any situations like the one you experienced. Strap on the side arm, grab the longarm, and bring the IFAK.
I like that idea except your actually naked until you get to that secure container Lol I keep a pistol on me ALWAYS!!! You honestly can’t comprehend what I mean by always from what I see with other “all the time carriers” haha 😂 it’s alittle excessive but I’ve been in John’s situation with an actual meth head thief my neighbors and I cornered!! That was fun Lol I was the ONLY Person with a weapon/rifle. Just keep in minds that little space of having nothing is a weak point. Good luck 👍
We spend so much time training ourselves that we fail to include our family in that very training. We are taught that if we don’t use it then we lose it. What’s your thoughts on spending more time training the family? Maybe once a week or every other week, go through the specifics of “ what do we do when this happens “.. Also, test everyone’s knowledge of the family safe word and what you do when that word is used in different situations.
Truth. Hard truth.
Bless you and your Family and I’m glad nothing went bad. Great work .
Appreciate the honesty. We have our canine companion who is our main alarm. Full done, monitored ADT system for our house; weapons in secure room in our detached barn; pepper spray in our UTV along with a scabbard if we need to carry something extra. Gated entrance and multiple signs posting the property (which, as you know, don't deter everyone). Meth is rampant in our area; in a small 1 stoplight town in NC. Multiple safe rooms identified in our home along with specifically cut 4x4s to brace doors, light sticks to throw out safe room window to notify LEO where we are. Weapon and separate comm devices and ammo stock in each safe room. And, regular drills, now that we're empty nesters but also when our adult kids arrive and stay. Great job Sir.
this stuff never happened when you were clean-shaven
Glad the family is ok. Shows you that you can have everything sent up perfectly and things can still happen. Once again I’m glad you and your family are safe.
Guardline motion sensors.
They're motion sensors that send a wireless signal to a main box inside your house that sounds an alarm. No this isn't an ad. I actually have one.
Up to a half mile signal
Program up to 8 different "zones" and each has their own alarm sound so you know where the activity is.
Very sensitive too.
I have the Guardline motion sensors too. They’re great! Have different sounds programmed to let me know at what point they are on, on my very long driveway.
Brother, you are very inspiring and squared away. Your content hits so many points of how to navigate life in a healthy way. This situation that happened to you is what we in the aviation safety business call the "Swiss cheese theory". You have lots of layered security but very occasionally all the layers together will still have a hole that goes through all the way. It happens because it is an imperfect world. Sounds like you recognized and hardened the existing security layers. You're doing awesome! Prayers for you and your family's safety brother. God bless you.
Thanks for sharing this!
First off, thank you for your service, sir! At 70 years young I have seen a few times in my life like you just had. Never having the money to have the security systems you have one key thing I did learn is, now not cutting your dog short but I have found you can't beat 2 dogs. As you well know we work a lot better as a team. Each man or dog puts more into different things than the other. For me 3 is a good number for me, but at least 2. Again, thank you for your service young man...... Clyde
I really think it’s hard these days especially in these types of situations, choosing to be a defender or choosing to be gracious and offer aid. I believe what you did was the smartest and safest way to handle this situation, starting off with a defensive approach and after assessing the situation rendering aid to someone who’s life likely depended on your next course of action.
TY My thoughts exsctly.
Just read the story of a Florida couple hiking a National park. Both college kids that were trying to help a person with a disabled vehicle. Turns out they were set up to be robbed, Guy gets shot and killed but not before shooting the robber and shattering her leg. You can see why people don't want to get involved
Outstanding After Action Report.
Certain tactical elements will be corrected and will never happen again.
It's not easy to admit faults, but once acknowledged they will never happen again. Lessons learned. I am now a SUBSCRIBER.
Very educational. Thanks for sharing real world experience with us brother!!
I had some well trained Dobermans over the years, nobody ever opened my truck door, and nobody ever made it to my front door, just a couple barks mostly growling while siting and staring down! The dogs always remained calm.
Cane Corso has a booming Bark also. I’m glad nothing went bad with you 🙏🏾
Unless there are allergy considerations, an indoor/"nanny" dog goes a long ways too. If there is a dog freaking out at the door because of the strange man on the porch, especially if they sense something is wrong, would probably help prevent your son opening said door.
Plus, 2 doggos are always better than 1. 🙂
John went full dad mode and I get it and respect it. Thank you for sharing also because if it could happen to you as you say the security guy who lives in the middle of no where, it really could happen to anyone. Always be alert and prepared.
I grew up in a rural area too. When I was a little girl, I loved climbing trees whenever I was outside, and since I didn't have a cell phone, my parents always made me carry a walkie talkie when I went out just in case I fell or needed help getting down. Maybe something like that would work for you and your family if you don't like the idea of always carrying your phone.
Wise words I was once told, “you never stop learning, you learn something new every day”.
Crap happens, keep up the good work sir.
The scary part is your son but who in the hell would ever expect that! Atleast you know what can happen now and to get your boys taught up! Thanks John!
I’m in recovery, almost 4 years sober from opiates, 10 years from meth. Thank you, THANK YOU, for helping him. I have a son now, trying my best to teach him better ways. We’ve bonded over the outdoors, video games, guns, all the cool guy stuff. And I was so close to not having that because of my choice to use. Thank you for helping this guy out and hopefully your one act of immense kindness helps him make a step towards a better life. When I was using, I was a terrible employee (if you can believe it). My bosses pulled me into the office and I was certain they were going to fire me. They told me I was fucking up and that I was letting everyone down, BUT that they believed I was good enough to turn it around. They didn’t know about the drugs, they just knew I was in a bad place. My point with bringing that up is that it took that ONE moment to feel like someone DID care and I worked to get my life back. And I did just that. So again, thank you for helping that meth head. You did more than your part, John. The rest is up to him.
Glad to learn by your experience. Thanks for sharing.
You handled it quite well for a surprise situation. Everything is a learning experience.
Most critical incidents are surprises... ⚠️⚠️⚠️
You didn't mention how much land is included in your secure area. Size makes a difference in what one guy can do. The dogs become more and more valuable as distance expands. I'd have two. Actually, I have more than that. Of course, that screws up those motion sensors but I'll take the trade-off.
If I may, I would recommend periodic walks around your property or sections thereof. This is dependent upon how much land you have, but this lets you know the state of things--such as people in close proximity or repairs that are needed and gets in some cardio. It is probably better to do this at a walk (or ruck if you prefer) to keep it slow enough to pick up smaller details. Learn to know what your property is like so that you can catch when something looks off. Based off the time limits you gave of the addict and the average ability to walk, I am assuming he had to be living at least somewhat close to you or a neighbor. Walking your perimeter increases your chances of noticing before he gets onto your property.
Or a ride on horseback! Why walk when you can ride!? lol And the added height gives you greater visibiity. We ride our fenceline at least once a month. 👍
He has a UTV, that allows you to cover the entire property in 1/10th the time of walking it. I get enough walking in doing chores. I'm not walking miles of fence line!
That’s a great idea, but you have to be realistic. He has a life to live, work to do, and life is just like that. We can come up with every idea in the world, train for everything we can think of, bit in the end, it’s just not really always realistic to walk guard on your property, clear all rooms on entering, carry two or three guns 24/7, with several mags, etc. Real life isn’t that perfect, you know?
@@arklainquirk YES! With a whole encampment of "the wrong crowd". Major problem near by, all of his friends.
@@BlueRidgeCritter Yes sir, I understand. And it is a balance of priorities, as he mentioned. However, it can be make to blend with other activities, not does the whole perimeter need to be walked every day. Doing small portions is enough to get to know everything--and that is why I recommended walking. By walking, one is forced to slow down enough to take in everything including audio and olfactory nuisances that would otherwise be lost on an ATV or horse. Unless someone is purposely stealth camping, they tend to leave sign that can be noticed if you know what to look for.
You're right, sadly life is not that perfect; but I would argue that small steps can pay off pretty good. Admittedly, the exact implementation of this does depend on a lot of factors, several good ones you mentioned. Thank you for replying
Now ya know, but ya gotta have that talk with the kids and constantly or regularly reinforce the stranger danger and I assume my boys would do the right thing but I will absolutely be having a chat about it with them again. Thanks for sharing Appreciate you having the balls to even make this video shows your a stand up guy
John as a father myself I can honestly say that after listening to the way that incident played out one of the first things that popped into my head was exactly what you concluded. Your children need to understand Stranger Danger.
Thank you for sharing the AAR. We need to hear these honest self assessments. As a Husband and Father I need these to keep me in the right head space.
John the one thing that concerned me is that these meth heads often hang out in groups. Although leaving your home & family to take this guy to the hospital was very admirable on your part, I hope that your family was locked safely in your home until you returned. He could have been setting up a diversionary tactic for others in his "group" to break into you home. So glad no one was hurt in your family.
Very good point. I would like to hear John's take on this.
That is a scary thought,it did not cross my mind.
Glad everything played out well for John and his family.
Good point. Thought boy was with him
Thank you for keeping it real, John!
A takeaway is that city or country, things happen. I appreciate your openness. Having awareness, being prepared, while still being human and at times, a Good Samaritan.
Definitely a disturbing situation to have to face, especially when you're as prepared and well trained as you are. Just goes to show how hard it is to be prepared for and react to every possible scenario. Given the situation as it happend you adapted and handled it well but I also understand where you're coming from in the after action assessment and feeling like you've failed in specific areas. We live, we learn, we improve our position and continue to train for that freak situation. " Oh that'll never happen" .... Surprise, Murphy's at your doorstep... Thanks for sharing this, I'm sure it will help many of us assess and address our own weakness.. I have way too many right now but working on it.. 👍
I would have been concerned about his friends “the wrong crowd” like was he staying in the woods alone or are they still around that would have been good to know before leaving the property to take him to the hospital
Excellent point. I don't think I'd have driven him to the hospital and definitely not speeding, risking my own safety. I'd leave him by the mail box while I'm looking for his junkie friends and getting the sheriff to evict them from the woods.
There is a point where I won't care about someone's life more than they care for it themselves.
Exactly my thinking. He could have been bait to lure Jon off their property (whether intentionally or without knowing)
Considering the weather and all I imagine it's in an easily accessible spot near a water source. Maybe even hidden in plain sight. Brush thickets in river bottom land and even unused corners of pasture land that have become brushy. They might be on adjoining property where the land owner isn't as vigilant.
I'd actually consider a quality quad drone and a few remote view game cameras set up along my properties perimeter.
Thanks for the AAR, battle. There were a lot of helpful tip in this vid. I appreciate you brother!
Glad you are all safe. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I hope your wife is ok, I would be a disaster.
All of us who live in the country have to watch out for the Meth-heads. I had the Sheriff deputies come out twice to our property (wrong address) looking for one. One time they came on a rainy night at midnight. Had my lawyer write them and tell them they had the wrong address both times and a disabled Marine Veteran with bad hearing and insomnia may mistake them for intruders. Trying to avoid another Ruby Ridge before it happens again. Love your vids John! Semper Fi and All the Way. 🇺🇲💪❤️
Still would so much rather deal with tweekers than mobs of people yeeting Molotovs
Shit happens, don't let the same shit happen again. The best learning tool is our mistakes.
Radio Walkie-talkies might be the best solution for effective communication and cell phone detachment. Thanks for all you do! I really appreciate your stuff.
Thanks for the share. Best to not separate from your family especially for an unknown subject in distress. Ride out the situation there, his condition is secondary. Numerous hypotheticals about who he’s with, more friends coming your way to look for him, etc. But I’m sure you made an informed decision to leave with him over staying with family. Just a thought.
I agree with this completely. Definitely better off not separating if you can help it.
Howdy, love the site, hope I wasn’t offensive in my comment, was not my intention! Keep up the great content!
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That could have been a setup when you took off with him some of his meth head buddies could have been watching from a distance! I'm glad everything worked out for the good! Thank you for sharing this
Thought the same.
I'm sure Mrs Warrior Poet was on high alert at that point.
Pretty confident that Mrs. WP was in full mama bear mode by this point, and mama bears will take down a whole crowd of meth heads.
Definitely needs to give this situation more thought. I am in agreement that it could have been a set up.
Whoa, you're right Tuck, good observation.
Great learning through experiences! Most home invasions , though rare, happen quite abruptly, so I’ve converted to wearing a pistol on me almost everywhere I can now during my waking hours - even in my own home or outside doing chores. A G43X (or better yet, Warpoet CR920) makes it much easier, and I can even carry a Keltec P32 or Ruger LCP during a run. It’s just a way of life now, and I honestly feel naked without one on me.
Ah man, the P32. I had one about 17 years ago. That was definitely a tiny little package with keltec’s belt clip
@@salsalvio821 that’s funny because that’s about when I got mine (maybe 20 years ago) and loved the portability of it (I use a leather, back pocket, wallet-style holster) but I used to have some trust issues due to feed reliability issues with it. I have since done a good bit of research and found that it actually works very reliably now using Fiocchi ammo (FMJ too, because no need for JHP with the lower powered round).
I'm always armed, 24/7, except in Government restricted areas. Sig 365 with two extra mags, Federal 9mm +P HST, in a kydex IWB holster in warm weather. Cool weather EDC is a Glock 23 40 Smith , 165gr Federal HST or Winchester Ranger with two extra mags, Galco IWB.Sometimes I carry a back up in an ankle holster, also Galco. Also a Spyderco Police Model withe a fully serrated blade.
The Glock doesn't feel excessively heavy. I carried it for 10 to 15 years with a full Police belt full of gear.All depends on what you are used to.
43x in the summer 19x in the winter
I think that is a major lesson, get a handgun that you'll always have on you. I live in the woods. I have livestock to deal with at all times. There are times that packing a pistol isn't comfortable. I figured that any gun is better than no gun, so at times I carry a micro 9mm in a belly band holster. Wouldn't be a good choice for shooting a bear, but it's a gun.
thanks for the pertinent deets that help us all consider the same things you're now addressing
Great information. I live in the country, and you made me realize that there can always be improvements. I'm always armed when outside with a pistol in a belt holster. It does pose a little discomfort at times, but I'm 51, so it just gives me an excuse to slow down with whatever I'm doing. I'm sure people that drive by think I'm a nut for mowing with the tractor while I've got a pistol on my hip, but I'm too far away for any kind of quick Law Enforcement response and I'm certainly not taking any chances. I'm a recent subscriber to the WPSN and I'm looking forward to learning a lot from your content. Keep up the good work.
John my security is far from fiddlestring tight, but when you mention keeping a pistol on you my solution for several years now has been a Hill People Gear Kit Bag. It drew some looks from neighbors but so did the 20" black rifle at first. I can keep ear buds, chewing gum, Redman (don't cancel me) gloves, cell, knife, and anything else. If I'm splitting wood or digging a fence post hole I can ground it and still have all that stuff closer than the nearest rig or even worse, the house. There's a less discreet and less swiss army knife approach in a Chester, they seem comfy and far less cumbersome. Happy hunting Sir!
Thank you immensely for sharing, great breakdown and information! The first thing I picked up on and the last "problem" bullet point you described near the end, not having a pistol on you. I was surprised coming from you but understand the sentiment. As much as I hate it I actually do throw on a small IWB 380 (G42) for yard work...it's not the best solution, is uncomfortable and gets sweaty, but I've committed to having something at all times. (IWB because I only have ~3 acres and don't want neighbors seeing me lugging blasters around) A .380 or even micro 9 OWB/open shouldn't be hard to adjust for full time in your scenario. Communication suggestion maybe set up DO NOT DISTURB setting on your phone, not sure what phone you have but look into it, lets you ignore everything but allow/accept family calls/texts or even certain app notifications (camera alerts). Other than that maybe GMRS/FRS radios? That's not perfect because it's yet another set of devices to keep up with and carry, but you'd be unplugged from the world while still plugged into your family. Young kids would love radios I'm sure and you could keep a few around the house on charging cradles for quick ready access. Love WPS, keep it up, we need you!
We use little walkies on our property. My son loves them. I like that they’re small and clip right on my tshirt neck or on my pocket.
After I reached 60 years old the ( G42 ) became my best friend…right after my hound dog of course.
There are others like me!! I have a Glock 42 that is strictly my yard work gun.. that’s all it is used for! It’s perfect for me. I’m in a neighborhood and it conceals effortlessly.
A belly band with a rigid strap to attach an IWB holster distributes the weight of your pistol all the way around your hips, instead of concentrating all of it on one point of your pants, and makes it ride much more comfortably. So I have no excuses or incentives NOT to carry everyday. Mail check, workout, burger run, work...it's always there. I feel naked without it, like it's less comfortable not having it there.
All I have are fullsizes in order to make the most out of handguns, so that's all I CAN carry on the daily. I don't own any compacts because I'm already settling enough as it is by relying on a fullsize handgun.
And I keep my phone in an OWB holster, usually on vibrate. I don't want to be constantly bothered in the moment by others either, but if I want to initiate communication then I can.
I used to have a phone where I could silence it to notifications from everyone except for certain emergency contacts that were already in my phone. They called it ICE: In Case of Emergency contacts. This meant that even on silent my very closest people could still get through to me and I wouldn't miss them. But unfortunately my newer phone models and operating systems have dropped that feature.
@@MrSoonermadman Just as stoked to hear your story! Awesome 👍
Wow!!! That is for the inside view of your security measure and the encouragement to upgrade mine. Training my kids is probably my weak link now with them being very young. Gonna get started now
Thanks for sharing!