No one is happy especially if you grow up in the 80’s. My mom got me Jordan Ones Chicago’s for 40 bucks at JC Penny’s in 85 for my birthday plus a Thriller album. Best birthday memory ever.
I grew up in NC, Jordan country. My dad was a Tarheel fan. I wanted the laker color converse when school started that year, my dad talked me into settling for the first Jordan's. I had every pair that was made up until the 14s
@@markprice2225 Getting that OG pair in that OG color way With that Family memory behind it, stays Engraved in your mind. I like to believe when we go, All those memories combined With all your favorite smells is Life flashing back.
What came first the chicken or the egg? the game fucked up as soon as Jordan brand began artificial inflation. Jordan brand created this monster by limiting production of there sneakers to artificially create scarcity and high demand for there sneakers... It's the same game that drives the value of diamonds, which are not at all a rare stone... De Beers has a global monopoly on diamond mining which allows them to manipulate the market value through the use of artificial inflation. The resale market of sneakers was essentially spawned on the heels of deadstock OG sneakers and highly limited/exclusive sneakers like the undefeated 4s selling for absurd amounts of money... or at least being listed at such ridiculous prices, that it seeded the thought in millions of minds that sneakers are an investment and if you cop the right pairs you could strike gold. I mean, you can price anything at any monetary value you want, whether or not it sells is another story... At the end of the day scarcity drives the market value, when something is highly limited and exclusive than its perceived as extra valuable and those with money to burn will purchase said product for the perceived status symbol it provides them. Basically all i'm saying is between wealthy buyers willing to pay the absurd resale prices and Jordan Brand making extremely limited friends and family sneakers, as well as creating scarcity through there regular production lines... It was only a matter of time before everything spiraled out of control. We all hate the idea of resellers and it's easy to push blame on the resellers and resale buyers for creating this entire mess, but at the end of the day, its Jordan Brand that has created the system and fed the fire which birthed the sneaker resale market into what it is today.
I mean some people wear them in the end, that's why the value stays so high and continues to rise, some oil prince somewhere wrecking a pair a week lol
@@truBoxingfan sorry bro but its now worse than ever with bots and cook groups and its disgusting. Ive been collecting since 07 and beleive me its too bad nowadays.
@@peetahtee3826 you started in 07 try 98 buddy resellers have always been around ! I’m 35 been collecting since I was a kid ... adapt with the times or get left behind
@@truBoxingfan I started collecting in 07 (like Niketalk, ISS forums, NYC dunk exchange, camping out type of collecting) You have to admit that shit is terrible now. I am 28
@@truBoxingfan I am 45 and collection since 80's What you are saying is irrelevant and detrimental to sneaker culture, resellers should get fucked and that's that!
I agree. Life’s too short to not wear something you like. But at the same time, no need to spend that much money. I do understand the hesitation to wear a high value sneaker though. I have the Union 1’s and haven’t worn them yet and have been too afraid to almost.
@@dominicstanziano1456 nah, it's basic economics. Supply and demand. The reason the bots exist is the buyers, not the re-sellers. If someone will pay $1000 for a $180 retail shoe, then re-sellers will always be around. As soon as these buyers stop paying the ballooned re-sell price, then things will calm down.
For me, I rather buy reps than giving free money to resellers. Your money doesn't go to the brand, it goes to bots and resellers. They are at fault for making the sneaker price sky rocketing and killing the sneaker culture. Also Nike is dumb, they can make more money restocking or even make there shoes a pre order release. Forget brand loyalty when Nike doesn’t make the shoes available. I’m only loyal to wallet and hard earned money.
Nike is not dumb, those limited releases are like free press to them to sell all their other models, it's like the Bugatti Veyron, VW made it to prove it could be done, they lost money of every Veyron they ever sold but it brought recognition to their brand in the car world and helped them move their product.
@@CASTRO45ACP except they lost money because of how expensive to craft the vehicle was an all of the R&D and what not as opposed to taking a $170 Jordan and flipping the swoosh on it and calling it special. It’s not made of anything exotic. No extra anything put into it.
@@CASTRO45ACP stop it man, they’re losing money plain and simple bottom line is a lot of those shoes would still sell out if they made more, and last I checked a Bugatti is made from quality materials it’s one of the fastest cars in the world it’s all quality, Jordan’s often times feel like 220 receipt for a 2 dollar shoe with all the bad materials, they flip a swoosh make a “colab” with someone who has no idea about how to make shoes and call it a “special release” like look at the Jordan 1 union those are ugly as fuck and go up to almost 2,000 forget that
I'm from Brazil, and here in Brazil the pairs sold by nike are of a lower quality than pairs from other places. The resale here is also insane, any model is very expensive, because our currency is devalued. That is, if Nike doesn't care about selling quality pairs, why should people care about buying original pairs? Most of the time the UA pair and the original pair are made in the same country, use the same materials and the same cheap labor, the difference is that the "original" pair is resold for much more expensive, when in fact it cost the same cents to be manufactured, as well as the fake pair ...
This is the same issue I find with Transformers and Hasbro. Simply put, 3rd party often takes hasbro products and vastly improves on them: bigger, better paint, more detail, better working toy aka fixes existing issues w/toy or QC issues, or both. Plus, cheaper price.
Even the authentics had quality control issues. Pretty sad that the “fakes” use the same stuff and provide the same or sometimes even better quality control.
@@MattBraun I have a few pair of reps and you actually get to do your own QC they will send you pictures and you tell them what's wrong and they will go back an make another pair
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Thanks man this video speaks what I've been having issues with the shoe industry. Fakes would not exist if shoes weren't made in limited numbers. I wear all my shoes. I love them as much as you. We share many things. Power rangers Jordan's and any 90s shoe. I wanted the 11s this past December but it ran out and and resellers are screwing over people. Sick of it.
Sup nightwing, this video and the last one about the industry as a whole really resonated with me and the way i look at the "sneaker community". It has changed so much since i've started and even though we're a dying breed i love to see likeminded people still exist and actually care for the shoe, the materials and the backstory and not about the value. But yeah, on topic, i'd never buy fakes but i do understand Nike's creating a need for them with their crazy release strategy. Man, i miss camping out. And getting J's at retail.
"Authenticy" is a state of mind. Many of the "real" and "UA" pairs are made in the same factories with same materials even by workers who used to be in the "real" factories. I'm all for copping retail, but end of the day you're playing yourself if you really care all that much about authenticity for a product strictly made in low supply to exploit people. I love shoes, but they brands aint ya friends.
@@dmillzzz1918 I'm not sure why you're coming at me so aggressively instead of having a dialogue. Obviously, there are differences between retail and UA sneakers. What you're failing to understand from my inital comment is that if you do your research you will find out that many factories are started up from previous employees tired of being paid poorly for highly skilled work. Many rep workers have better quality of life than the employees of multi-billion dollar companies like Nike. If "Authenticy" is so important to you then you should also be holding these companies accountable for the ways in which they exploit their workers. I love sneakers. I buy retail, resell, and reps. Being critical of a company doesn't make me "full of shit," G. If that's how you feel, then stop engaging with me.
@@DarkFayte I will never support fake's or people who wear them. I hope they have that thought in the back of their head every time they wear them. Fake. Obviously you have no businesses experience and have never been undercut with one of your own products from China.
I invest in stocks but if a shoe hasn't reached its full potential worth yet i'll buy them..sail off white jordan 5s cost me $589 so i grabbed them because they always start out at that price and they sky rocket past $1,000 and stay around that price even if its slightly worn lol i never let my sneakers collect dust so its a win/win situation imo
I didn’t even get a chance to get started. I’ve been trying to give my money to Jordan Brand for almost two years now and guess how many times I’ve hit on anything? Zero!! I don’t buy resale as I wear my shoes so it’s not worth it to me. Imma keep trying but damn this is bullshit.
@@mustang9549 we all feel the same way sneaker fam..even had me thinking about Learning how to bot but that's expensive to do too..if i didn't have rent and bills to pay i would put all my money towards doing that and resell for decent prices to build a loyal clientele unlike everyone else lol this really sucks
Right about that mane!! Trying to do more investing for my retirement, than copping these sneakers. Even at retail prices, the way JB drops stuff you still spending thousands.
This is how it was explained to me.. For every shoe, Nike puts out contracts to different factories that shows the design of the shoe and what they want when it's created. Whichever factory makes the best product based on the specs Nike gave them, they win the contract and they produce the shoe. However, remember there's multiple factories that were handed out those contracts on the specs. They're supposed to "throw them away" and not put the shoe into production, but some factories don't do that. They make almost identical reps and sell them because they have the original design specs. 👌🏾
That is what I Thought since I have seen today replicas that are very similar than OG's. That is a problem that Nike should take in consideration especially with the globalization of shipping....
There’s no way they’re dumb enough to give the drawings and specs for a new shoe to multiple factories and just hope they toss them when they don’t get the contract. This is China where they are master imitators. They just buy the real shoe and source the closest material they can to make the shoes on their own. When it’s a new product, they have to reverse engineer it but with Jordan’s that have been around for years, they already have the plans and if they don’t, they’re for sale somewhere. Nike just isn’t giving them away willingly.
Truth, same thing happened to me when I went into Hibbett one day. I told them kids working in there I hit on the Frag Jordan 3 and the first thing mentioned was resale and was I going to wear them🤷🏽♂️
Completely man, like what happened to getting them cuz you like em, funny thing is anything with a special label like “NRG” or “ Cactus Jack” will go for like 2,000 just cuz of that, some of them look nice but a lot are just ugly, like those union 4s they look like terrible, I swear they could take a Payless shoe stitch a jumpman and Nike with a lightning bolt or Dior on it and sell it for 1,000 sneaker game has been going downhill
It makes me feel very uncomfortable wearing my jordans because I have a pair that have a high resell price but I’m scared to wear them, I miss the days when we used to actually wear our shoes not hoard them because of the resell price
If I can't hit on the shoe for retail, I just forget about it. Unfortunately the scarcity drives up demand and hype, it's now no longer but genuinely liking the shoes you're buying and only about "how much resell can you get".
Yeah, I’m not buying a shoe for 400 either. I like shoes as much as the next guy but I don’t have it like that and can’t justify spending that kind of money. I’m not even a sneaker head like that but I tried to get pair of Kobe’s recently and that shit sold out in 3 minutes or something insane. Bought a pair of fakes on e-bay a long time ago (2012 hyperdunks lol) and I’m not going back to that to get burned again. Shot around in them once and you could tell by the foam/padding that they weren’t real.
I just came across this video and want to say I’m glad you touched on this topic. I became huge into sneakers in like 2015 and felt like it was not hard to get the shoes like it is now. I have not won a release since Footlocker and Champs switched over to the stupid FLX thing. Now SNKRS is like a needle in a haystack when it comes to getting a sneaker. I am not going to pay resell for any shoe at this point. Now seeing that replica sneakers are using the same materials it is just about them nailing certain details i will go that route. The everyday person does not have have $800 to throw on some damn shoes. Love this video you made!
The most f'up thing is that those who actually wants to wear the shoes can never get them retail, only reseller get retail for flipping... that's wrong man
I hate their fees as a buyer. There are some great finds under retail. But with the processing fee, shipping, and tax the total goes back near retail price.
Exactly! Me too. Taking Ls left and right. Thanks to bots, we can't even get the sneaker and wear it. I refuse to pay resell prices.... It's not that important
You literally make my day every single time that you upload a vid, doesn't even matter if I like the shoe or not, I just watch it and learn a lot. Keep it up guys!
For real even Stock X cant authenticate anything, its a con... Even in this video, the only reason he can tell is because he knows which one is fake. If he just got the fakes, with nothing to compare them to its just a guess. Hell there is a reason Nike got outlets in every town, their manufacturing process doesnt produce perfect shoes. There are noticable differences in some Jordans from one size to another.
I work for Nike. I can't get everything. I've worn fakes in before and nobody notices. Shoes and jerseys. The jerseys are mainly for the quality. They charge $110 for a see through screen printed jersey vs a stitched one for $17 from overseas. The company really doesn't have much opportunity for their own employees to cop shoes too. I couldn't get the Grinches so I'll be copping the fakes too. I would much rather buy a fake than be out here lining a resellers pocket. That's just me though.
I remember the Eastbay Mags and circling shoes that I wanted like the old Toys R Us Christmas Mags lol. there's guys like you that keep the old school mindset alive of loving and learning the history of sneakers. 🤘
The crazy part is you could be wearing a pair of authentic Travis Scott 1’s and somebody can come up and say yo those are fake, and right there they’ve created doubt and now people think your real pair is fake. There are material and build variations even in real pairs, so it gets really difficult to tell the real ones from the fake ones at times.
I personally salute/thank Chris, because he really made me realize “things are only worth what your willing to pay for them”. I always think about that when I purchase anything. 💯
Hopefully, they’re hearing you because you’re not alone with your thoughts!!! I do remember the days I could go in the store and buy a pair with no problems until now.... Keep it up & truly appreciate you!!!
Yessir. I’m with you. At this point idc if people make fun of my fakes. If you wanna spend $1k on a shoe and then wear it and devalue it, be my guest lmao
I really have given up on getting Jordans even though I want them. I’m not wearing fakes so I’m pretty much out of luck. And I refuse to pay resell prices
@W It's not about other people caring, it's about me caring. I can't do fakes cuz half the fun is being able to cop an authentic sneaker for retail. It's like a sport to me and so I look at both paying resale and buying fakes as cheating personally. My sneakers are like trophies lol. If I take an L I just move on to the next fight. Also I like to sell my sneakers once I'm done with them to get the money I spent on them back😂
I blame the companies as well....I dont blame people wearing fakes. Why, because of these resellers trying to rip off faithful people. I have NEVER owned a pair of 11s because I can never afford and refuse to pay resell prices. I think jordan/nike should just push up the amount they make. That will solve the problem but I think they love this hype culture I hate it.
I agree with you too, but if you consistently go after what you like on SNKRS , Adidas and Confirmed apps, you WILL hit on some. I have copped some 11's, 13's, 1's, 5's and Yeezy's this way. Would like to try the UA's to see for myself though. Sneaker companies do not care, they counting their $$ AND they don't have those shoes sittin' in their warehouses waiting for a buyer! 🖕🏼resellers!
Absolutely I agree with you. It's like the greed of the companies/brands vs the greed of the reseller....and who pays the price??? It's us sneaker lovers! ☹️
While I agree companies are greedy, I also would argue you’re not trying bro. Lmao, I have had to TRY every time to get an 11. And if I try hard enough, I get them. I.e. driving a couple hours to a dead nearby mall if I have to. They make hundreds and thousands of pairs. They’re out there if you really want them.
I can’t believe where the sneaker game has gone. I remember spending the summer in Cali with my grandmother (I’m from NY) and she took me to JC Penny and bought me me the entire “Bred 1” set. This was in ‘86, I was 7yrs old. I got the nylon pants, the shorts and the red tee that had the old Jordan logo (basketball with wings). I say all of that to make an important point. My mother bought me the Jordan 2’s when they released. I HAD THEM BEFORE MY GRANDMOTHER GOT ME THE BRED 1s!!!! So back then, you were STILL able to get your hands on a pair of Jays for RETAIL months later!!!!! I wasn’t a big basketball fan yet, so I really didn’t understand why everyone was so impressed with my kicks. I started to watch basketball around the time the 5’s were released. But again, it still amazes me that we’ve gotten to the point that it is damn near impossible to simply buy a sneaker you like. I remember being able to buy a pair, ruining them and possibly buying them AGAIN!!!!! Those days are certainly gone now...smh
If people ask they are replicas. And I wear the absolute fuck out of each of my replica pairs and never feel bad about wearing them in the elements. It’s a win win win honestly.
Awesome video, man! Love the channel. It's a no-brainer when a resell price of a sneaker goes for 2-3k and one can find the fake shoe for 100 dollars or so. And you know the worst part? Its freaking better quality sometimes - goodbye glue stains, manufacturer issues. It's ridiculous, man. Still, i refrain from buying those, but can't blame anyone for doing so. Totally justified
The biggest problem is bulk resellers/bots, rigged raffles and backdooring. That's were option B is available for those that are tired of taking L's every release that just want to wear them.
True. I dont think the problem is resellers, anyone can sell anything. I think the problem is with the tools people are using to buy the pair. Nike or jordan or adidas can make 100mil pairs, bots can still eat these up imo.
I have a real L&F and a rep pair. The Rep pair actually came out better than the real pair. The lateral side on the real right shoe looks like it has a damn Bunion. Can't believe it made it through QC.
The only reason why shoetuber say they can't wear fake is to only protect their channel integrity and views. If they didn't have a channel they would rock reps all day.
All the arguments for not buying reps are getting ridiculous now too. They're basically not trying to say, if other people can get them, then I don't feel cool anymore. Or how should I feel if I'm the only one paying resell/not making as much money by reselling. Its never about culture.
It won’t. They tried that and it backfired. If shoes are too easy to cop hypebeasts will no longer have hype on the product. The shoes will be left sitting. Look at the Nike release calendar. Sneaker after sneaker after sneaker. And due to the hype the J’s and dunks all sell out instantly. Nike would prefer that than to meet demand on each release. What I do hope is that they look at the recent yeezy bred rerelease. The production was HUGE, 500K pairs. Global sell out. On the back of last dance they could easily retro OGs with plenty of supply and make bank. Looks unlikely tho
@@BurnMyEyes0107 I’m glad you point that out because people seem to forget Nike listened and increased production years ago and a lot of retros sat, went on sale, or went to outlets and Nike didn’t like that. I also remember because of that ppl saying Jordan’s are dying and all that and I never cared. It was just great to catch em easily and a lot of times on sale. You also perfectly said how they’ve countered by cramming releases on to the calendar, hype them, produce less, & sell out rather than less releases more pairs that ended up sitting. I still wish they’d just produce more but what’s happening now is EXACTLY what Nike wants.
@@BurnMyEyes0107 you are right but when stock numbers were high they were putting out bullshit ass colorways I remember working at footaction and footlocker 2014 2015 they were just some wack cw at that time
Finally somone that understands why people buy Reps... I've tried for years to buy a sneaker off nike and have never had luck no way in the world would i ever spend that amount of money for resale price. Shout out to the Plug you can never tell a difference unless you have them side by side ;)
Love the content bro. I completely agree with you. For me, I don’t wear fakes. I pay resell when it’s reasonable, but most of the time, I just buy something else that I can afford.
Simple economic principle at play called "Willingness to Pay" -- companies and resellers benefit (profit) the most when they can sell us their products/goods as close to this price as possible. This would maximize their bottom line. If they could, they would target each of our individual "willingness to pay" prices for every product and only sell to those who have the highest willingness to pay -- In a way, resellers play this role in the secondary market. But at the end of the day, people who aren't willing to pay can hold off, look for alternatives, or as Chris highlighted, buy replicas for hundreds less. Great video highlighting a valid concern. Thanks Chris.
Big props for this video man! You not only highlighted the problem, but you proposed a reasonable solution too. Great video to get the message out there 🤟
I got tf out the sneaker "game" two years ago and sold everything Nike & Jordan Brand. I'm only wearing New Balances now. 990s. Constant high quality materials, precise craftsmanship, comfortable af, very nice colorways and good prices after they go on sale (and they almost all do). I'm much happier now.
This year has definitely ruined my experience with sneakers. From not being able to buy the ones I want because of resellers to not having anywhere to wear what I already own.
damn i rly want reps since I'm still a teenager and i can't afford the expensive resell prices. but I'm afraid to get called out and get asked where i bought them...
Your knowledge on sneakers, especially Nike's and Jordan's is unparalleled compared to other youtubers and so-called experts on the net. Keep up the great content.
Also with reps, you can wear your sneakers without being scared. You can always buy a new pair down the line. Imaging spending $2000 on retail travis. Would you be brave enough to unds and wear em out? No, most of the retail shoes collector dont even wear their shoes. They hide them in a box in closet all because of scaring losing "value"
Well said and nicely put, got screwed on those, was on shoulda had em and then the SNKRS app disconnected and when I got back , SOLD OUT, tired of that from SNKRS and Nike, made a complaint and asked a few questions but never got a response or reply, shows me where I sit as a customer/consumer
I thought I was the only one getting annoyed by the reselling industry, people are now hogging sneakers only to sell them for profit, they resort to bots now and not even 1 minute out, the shoes are sold out, bruh
Have you watched any of these reseller videos on UA-cam? The resellers are killing guys trying to sell their shoes to them and CRUSHING people who buy those shoes from them. That is what has really effed up the sneaker game for those of us who just want the shoe to wear, for their collection or both. 🖕🏼resellers!
i saw a video the other day of a guy with 100 pairs from like on finish line. its rediculius, the only time i dont care bout resellers is when theyre going out buying them from othrr people
Honestly I wanna resell sneakers but without the use of bots and gross over pricing. I don't want to use bots because its just unfair on people wanting the shoe normally. I hope this doesn't come off as dickish.
My sources from China told me.. some factories can do a shoe that is more perfect than the real thing. Oh trust me I bought a lot of reals.. some has glue sticking out or scratches .. esp the fire red 4s .. glues on the 1s. My source says if u buy the highest grade it’d be perfect. N the funny part is I showed them a flyknit 4s real.... They said it look like a 60 dollar pair ... it is real ..but seriously, wtf
Love this vid! I agree with everything. Back in the day you only missed out if you came too late, your size was gone or you didn’t have the money. Now, BOTS!!!!
I just recently got into the sneaker "game" whatever you call it lol. But I say it's more like taken interests and wanting to wear cool shoes yada yada yada...anyway when I learned all this and I was like no way or the heck people pay that much? I would never pay anyone more than the original price, just sad that some do. Wanted a pair of Jordans since I never owned one, but I don't think I will. I just find other alternatives like Adidas or Onitsuka Tiger, much more affordable and more attainable than the hyped Jordans.
I'm cool with it. Resellers did this to me. Been a loyal Jordan fan since '92. Since 2015, I've been hitting up reps. I never hit on Jordan 1's. Ever. Last real Jordan 1's I got was, Jordan 1 Court Purple. I still try copping to this day.
There’s no hype or marketing for Nike if they do that. It helps the consumer for sure but they’re too greedy. All they’d do is limit the preorder which would still generate a resell market.
No body is going to tell you exactly how they do it but to see a guy with 50 to 100 pair in a pic and I wanted one pair 🤔, is a real bitch! Sometimes I wonder if these brands are in with the resellers because of all the money left on the table.
LOVE the video!!!!! I remember when you could just walk in your neighborhood foot locker, city sports (Chicago), etc. and get heat........now the game is full of bots, resellers, and a whole lot less shoes made or accessibility
The brands are putting us in this position by making shoes wayy too limited and I haven’t bought any UA’s yet but I’m heavily considering buying them because tired of taking constant L’s especially on SNKRS app it’s very annoying fr
Very valid points man. I agree if you push people they will resort to what they need to do. With image being so "important" people will fake it. But to each its own. But quality is quality.
If I miss out on the retail release, I will just do without the shoe. 9 times out of 10, I just take the money that I was going to spend with that company and spend it with another company
Hi Chris. I agree with you 100%. I am an early 90's kid and like you, I am sentimental and prefer to collect the shoes from my youth that I wore out the first time I owned them. I am a huge baseball and basketball fan so Jeter, Griffey, and Jordan shoes are normally at the top of my list. I have a small collection that I prefer to wear (in the right conditions). In terms of your video, I don't buy fakes, cant afford resale, and typically can't get retail. I typically hunt for the specific shoe I want on eBay hoping to find a deal on the exact pair I'm looking for that has been worn a handful of times or less. In terms of new shoes I mostly buy kicks that I can wear on the basketball court or the baseball field and even those have begun to approach the exact problem you address in this video. Regardless, thanks to you and Jodi for the great videos. I do not subscribe to many channels but this is one of the few. Its nice to see and hear from someone from the same/similar generation as me that isn't solely (pun intended) focused on the new hype (even though it is fun to look at) and appreciates the shoes from their youth. Thanks again!!
Will people finally stop the “fake” term when it’s clearly made with authentic materials. Chris is being unbiased and honest when he says this shoe is made better than pairs received from a retail store. I rock both and UAs from the right supplier are killing what you buy from stores. It’s not even close
@@bigogamelife2201 If it’s is made with REAL materials, how is it fake? Yes it is not made by a FACTORY that Nike AUTHORIZED. But please understand that the factory that made this shoe was once AUTHORIZED to make shoes for Nike. Do your research. Nike doesn’t have just one factory that makes all of their shoes
The most I paid for a shoe in my life was a couple of months back I bought the Yeezy‘s cinders off of StockX for $380 + shipping so I ended up paying like $410 in total. NEVER doing that again!
Happy to see people with a platform like you taking this issue seriously. It is a problem for us but not a problem for the brand. On the contrary, Its in the brand interest to create scarcity on premium partnership products with artists or athletes so when GR products hit the market we, as consumers, are ready to buy regardless (dunks 2021 strategy, ,mochas etc). We are to blame too.
#StopTheResell Don’t buy shoes for resell especially from resellers. Let them bot buy and by thousands. But don’t buy from them. If people don’t buy they don’t sell. Make them sell for retail.
you have to understand supply and demand. in business there's something called sales velocity. Just like how hype shoes increase in price, because it sold out; certain shoes go on sale, because they don't sell at a given price. everything has a price based on what most people are willing to pay. also, understand why louis vuitton can make billions at their price point versus why nike makes billions at its price points. resell is not the problem. counterfeit items are the problem. nike should see how chanel or louis vuitton combats fakes
@@ki6eki we made some 150$ shoes cost 500+ WE did that not the company. Designer is supposed to be expensive because it’s “high quality materials” but Most Js be having some cheap ass plastic but the hype is real so the go for at least 200+ higher than retail
@@6av1d8 deadass, I be touching most Js and some Nikes like “yuck” cuz the material be feeling like them plastic storage bins. Def not paying resale value for material that don’t even cut retail value.
Yes buying sneakers nowadays suck. My motto now is, if I can’t get a sneaker I want for retail, I move on to the next sneaker I want. I wear the money size shoes so it sucks. Also, now resellers are buying up the GS sizes so parents can’t even buy a pair of sneakers for the kids for retail. Sad & crazy.
Reps over pay resell and pocketing resellers. Reps are excellent nowadays, same quality same materials. Save money and be smart. Invest your money to other things and just buy reps. No one can tell 6ft away on feet. Nike fault for making it limited and not making available for all of us. Hype shoes cost over $500 average.
This video has went viral amongst the sneaker community... because its the TRUTH. Its a hard situation. You can't be apart of the Jordan Brand unless you're an all star player. I think making more pair to make the shoes more accessible takes away from the mystique and the value a true fan or collector would have towards these pairs because its easilyaccessible... yet having less pairs creates the mess with the UA sneakers. Its a very difficult situation.
@@sneakerhead4770 I don’t care about value I care about what looks good on my feet, I wear my shoes I don’t buy them just to look at them go up in value, it’s not even that good of a return on your investment tbh
Not as an investment but just as a physical good which holds its value. A lot of people wear authentics and sell them and get their money back after enjoying for 2-3 years and still come out on top. I don’t sell my personal shoes I like to keep them but some people like to be out with the old or don’t want to overfill their closet. Fakes are an L if u ask me but do u
@@sneakerhead4770 They only hold value if unused, I Rather buy a new Rep than and old “Authentic”. And if it was bought on an app there’s a chance it’s not authentic. People are passing legit checks with Reps now.
Junie Made oh so used offwhite chicago 1s don’t sell for 2k+ lol there are plenty of shoes that still fetch 800-2k used that’s what I mean by they hold value. You could have wore 85 1s for 30 years and then sold them for 1000 after they are completely toasted. Can u do that with ur fakes?
I only wear originals.....but is a good point that the brands should make more models available to more people worldwide in order to avoid the fake shoes take over the market and it doesn't cost the people's job who work honestly (talking of any brand).
Ima be completely honest with y’all I buy UAs. I’m sick and tired of taking Ls on snrks and I don’t trust private sellers. The only thing I hate is when ppl sell UAs as real. That’s some shady shit.
When people saying "I can't wear fakes" Please give me a reason why not? Its just freaking shoe. Same materials same quality. It goes on your feet and touch the dirty ground.
Hilarious how the "shoe industry" is a perfectly operating industry with minimal "problems". This 0.5% of the industry, all these collectible, rare, limited , expensive resale shoes etc... Only problems are the idiots that pay these hundreds and thousands of dollars for them.
@@sneakerhead4770 a $200 shoe is exactly that, the same would apply buying an over priced shoe from a reseller to seek validation from others cause you paid more. A Shelby Cobra Replica cost $50-$100k and no one has a problem paying it because it was designed well and looks great. The same should apply to a replica shoe. Thanks Nike for the design, we’ll take it from here...
@@sneakerhead4770 it doesn't mean someone is seeking validation. It's possible to love a colorway and shoe and actually want them to wear. Everyone isn't a hypebeast kid
Alot of people don't remember but man I remember when tonywild , scoop , jeerzy deep, niolinares were all replica heads. That movement made a hard push back in the day. It died down when the sellers started scamming though. Nio also went to jail but it was a wild ride back in the day.
I dunno much about the industry but I think something like pre-orders could be beneficial, especially for us consumers. Nike for example could announce the release of a Jordan 1 colorway before manufacturing and start taking pre-orders, that solves the issue of needing to stay up all day and night refreshing the site. it also helps the company out since they'd know more or less how many pairs they need to make. I don't think it would put resellers out of commission either since If you miss out on a colorway you wanted you could either wait for another release which could take some time or you could cop through resale.
No one is happy especially if you grow up in the 80’s. My mom got me Jordan Ones Chicago’s for 40 bucks at JC Penny’s in 85 for my birthday plus a Thriller album. Best birthday memory ever.
I grew up in NC, Jordan country. My dad was a Tarheel fan. I wanted the laker color converse when school started that year, my dad talked me into settling for the first Jordan's. I had every pair that was made up until the 14s
@@jeffboy13 my list go to 16s I still rolled with Him as a wizard 🧙♂️
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@@markprice2225 Getting that OG pair in that OG color way With that Family memory behind it, stays Engraved in your mind. I like to believe when we go, All those memories combined With all your favorite smells is Life flashing back.
@@markprice2225 i totally feel you. I’m just going for OG color ways.3-6 is my main goal 👍
The game fucked up at the moment they started asking "how much do you think these will go up to?" In my opinion
The sneaker game got lowkey revived when they started asking "How close do you think we can get?" in my opinion
Shoes became a fucking investment lol
What came first the chicken or the egg? the game fucked up as soon as Jordan brand began artificial inflation.
Jordan brand created this monster by limiting production of there sneakers to artificially create scarcity and high demand for there sneakers... It's the same game that drives the value of diamonds, which are not at all a rare stone... De Beers has a global monopoly on diamond mining which allows them to manipulate the market value through the use of artificial inflation.
The resale market of sneakers was essentially spawned on the heels of deadstock OG sneakers and highly limited/exclusive sneakers like the undefeated 4s selling for absurd amounts of money... or at least being listed at such ridiculous prices, that it seeded the thought in millions of minds that sneakers are an investment and if you cop the right pairs you could strike gold.
I mean, you can price anything at any monetary value you want, whether or not it sells is another story... At the end of the day scarcity drives the market value, when something is highly limited and exclusive than its perceived as extra valuable and those with money to burn will purchase said product for the perceived status symbol it provides them.
Basically all i'm saying is between wealthy buyers willing to pay the absurd resale prices and Jordan Brand making extremely limited friends and family sneakers, as well as creating scarcity through there regular production lines... It was only a matter of time before everything spiraled out of control.
We all hate the idea of resellers and it's easy to push blame on the resellers and resale buyers for creating this entire mess, but at the end of the day, its Jordan Brand that has created the system and fed the fire which birthed the sneaker resale market into what it is today.
@@TysonHook-22- Perfectly said bro. Thats exactly whats happened. My older brother told be this when he got out the game a couple of years ago.
Remember when people bought shoes and actually wore them? Good times...
Yeah I hate nuggets and it’s not really bad.???!??!???!?!??
I wear all my heat haha. Fuck re selling
I buy hypebeast sneakers like 1 every 2 years but I wear them
I miss when you could actually go in the store and buy a pair of jordans
I mean some people wear them in the end, that's why the value stays so high and continues to rise, some oil prince somewhere wrecking a pair a week lol
Resellers are the biggest problem in the sneaker industry.
fake news ! resellers have been around forever ! since the beginning of sneakers
@@truBoxingfan sorry bro but its now worse than ever with bots and cook groups and its disgusting. Ive been collecting since 07 and beleive me its too bad nowadays.
@@peetahtee3826 you started in 07 try 98 buddy resellers have always been around ! I’m 35 been collecting since I was a kid ... adapt with the times or get left behind
@@truBoxingfan I started collecting in 07 (like Niketalk, ISS forums, NYC dunk exchange, camping out type of collecting)
You have to admit that shit is terrible now.
I am 28
@@truBoxingfan I am 45 and collection since 80's What you are saying is irrelevant and detrimental to sneaker culture, resellers should get fucked and that's that!
Yeah I’m not mad at people who wear fakes/replicas. People really buying shoes for over 1000 that blows my mind
yeaaa frfr
I agree. Life’s too short to not wear something you like. But at the same time, no need to spend that much money. I do understand the hesitation to wear a high value sneaker though. I have the Union 1’s and haven’t worn them yet and have been too afraid to almost.
Co-signed 💯!
@@JWickyJr13 my mocha 1s went up to 500 and now I don’t wanna wear them 😂
Got $15 Foam Runners...
The only thing ruining the sneaker communtiy is re-sellers.
It's the buyers, not the re-sellers. When the buyers stop buying, the re-sellers will stop re-selling.
@@Malleus2010 well if it wasn’t for botters/resellers, people who want the shoe would actually be able to get it for retail
@@dominicstanziano1456 nah, it's basic economics. Supply and demand. The reason the bots exist is the buyers, not the re-sellers. If someone will pay $1000 for a $180 retail shoe, then re-sellers will always be around. As soon as these buyers stop paying the ballooned re-sell price, then things will calm down.
@@Malleus2010 that is a stupid comment how the fuck is there gonna be a sneaker community if the community stops having sneakers dummy?😂
@@Malleus2010 the resellers weren’t around like this before it’s a recent market so you’re explanation is invalid
For me, I rather buy reps than giving free money to resellers. Your money doesn't go to the brand, it goes to bots and resellers. They are at fault for making the sneaker price sky rocketing and killing the sneaker culture. Also Nike is dumb, they can make more money restocking or even make there shoes a pre order release. Forget brand loyalty when Nike doesn’t make the shoes available. I’m only loyal to wallet and hard earned money.
also, if the authenthic and fake pair look identical, isn't thw swoosh just a logo? Cause it's definitely not a quality guarantee
Nike is not dumb, those limited releases are like free press to them to sell all their other models, it's like the Bugatti Veyron, VW made it to prove it could be done, they lost money of every Veyron they ever sold but it brought recognition to their brand in the car world and helped them move their product.
@@CASTRO45ACP except they lost money because of how expensive to craft the vehicle was an all of the R&D and what not as opposed to taking a $170 Jordan and flipping the swoosh on it and calling it special. It’s not made of anything exotic. No extra anything put into it.
All Nike cares about is the hype. They would have stopped resells and fakes long ago if they wanted too.
@@CASTRO45ACP stop it man, they’re losing money plain and simple bottom line is a lot of those shoes would still sell out if they made more, and last I checked a Bugatti is made from quality materials it’s one of the fastest cars in the world it’s all quality, Jordan’s often times feel like 220 receipt for a 2 dollar shoe with all the bad materials, they flip a swoosh make a “colab” with someone who has no idea about how to make shoes and call it a “special release” like look at the Jordan 1 union those are ugly as fuck and go up to almost 2,000 forget that
I'm from Brazil, and here in Brazil the pairs sold by nike are of a lower quality than pairs from other places. The resale here is also insane, any model is very expensive, because our currency is devalued. That is, if Nike doesn't care about selling quality pairs, why should people care about buying original pairs? Most of the time the UA pair and the original pair are made in the same country, use the same materials and the same cheap labor, the difference is that the "original" pair is resold for much more expensive, when in fact it cost the same cents to be manufactured, as well as the fake pair ...
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This is exactly what I was thinking. And if you’re telling me some of these deep fakes are even better quality than the original?!?....Bruh!
@@samaantree they do it's crazy like sometimes you can spot the fakes because they have less glue stains LMAO
This is the same issue I find with Transformers and Hasbro. Simply put, 3rd party often takes hasbro products and vastly improves on them: bigger, better paint, more detail, better working toy aka fixes existing issues w/toy or QC issues, or both. Plus, cheaper price.
Same thing in China, the retail pairs look like the UA pairs in US
Even the authentics had quality control issues. Pretty sad that the “fakes” use the same stuff and provide the same or sometimes even better quality control.
the pattern in the heel on all my 380s is way off but on reps they seem nearly perfect. Seriously considering reps rn
@@MattBraun I have a few pair of reps and you actually get to do your own QC they will send you pictures and you tell them what's wrong and they will go back an make another pair
@@96jwatson who’s you seller I’m looking for one rn
@@joshmanny9445 me too lol
I got Kobe 6 grinches from Nike SNKRS app for retail and they were covered in glue stains. I’m sure that wouldn’t happen with the fakes
I remember when I could walk into the mall try some Js on, think about it and go back and get them a few days later. Those days are long gone
I did that last year with some j1's and got the very last pair a week after I first saw them, best 140€ I've ever spent
@@GG-pt5dj I think he is talking about the colorways that you can't find in stores like the Chicago for eg.
@@jomariesq yeah i meant limited editions as well, the aj1's swoosh on tour to be exact
got 3 pairs of bred 13's on sale at outlets....that was 2018...2019 the hypequeefs like MK started coming out the closet
Yep. The "culture" is at an all time low
Hey Guys! This topic has been on our minds for a bit and we want to hear what you guys think about it. Let us know your thoughts down below. Thanks for watching!
Thanks man this video speaks what I've been having issues with the shoe industry. Fakes would not exist if shoes weren't made in limited numbers. I wear all my shoes. I love them as much as you. We share many things. Power rangers Jordan's and any 90s shoe. I wanted the 11s this past December but it ran out and and resellers are screwing over people. Sick of it.
No dislikes so far...😎
The fakes are firing dope..
I used to be against it, but not anymore! If I trusted the payment process I'd pull the trigger
Sup nightwing, this video and the last one about the industry as a whole really resonated with me and the way i look at the "sneaker community". It has changed so much since i've started and even though we're a dying breed i love to see likeminded people still exist and actually care for the shoe, the materials and the backstory and not about the value.
But yeah, on topic, i'd never buy fakes but i do understand Nike's creating a need for them with their crazy release strategy. Man, i miss camping out. And getting J's at retail.
"Authenticy" is a state of mind. Many of the "real" and "UA" pairs are made in the same factories with same materials even by workers who used to be in the "real" factories. I'm all for copping retail, but end of the day you're playing yourself if you really care all that much about authenticity for a product strictly made in low supply to exploit people. I love shoes, but they brands aint ya friends.
if they are made in the same factory the glue would smell the same and there wouldnt be differences. you are full of shit
@@dmillzzz1918 Yeah, there are absolutely NO differences between retail pairs. You're right!
@@DarkFayte what?
@@dmillzzz1918 I'm not sure why you're coming at me so aggressively instead of having a dialogue. Obviously, there are differences between retail and UA sneakers. What you're failing to understand from my inital comment is that if you do your research you will find out that many factories are started up from previous employees tired of being paid poorly for highly skilled work. Many rep workers have better quality of life than the employees of multi-billion dollar companies like Nike. If "Authenticy" is so important to you then you should also be holding these companies accountable for the ways in which they exploit their workers. I love sneakers. I buy retail, resell, and reps. Being critical of a company doesn't make me "full of shit," G. If that's how you feel, then stop engaging with me.
@@DarkFayte I will never support fake's or people who wear them. I hope they have that thought in the back of their head every time they wear them. Fake. Obviously you have no businesses experience and have never been undercut with one of your own products from China.
Imo, when the fake's are as good as the real product while being cheaper at the same time, you CANNOT be mad at people for buying fakes
Word
I agree!!
I'll be mad when those mofos sell them as if they are real
No one's mad at the end user, I think. This is on the brands.
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Bots, Resellers, and Fakes in that order. I done collecting hardcore. I’m putting my money to work in other ways. Be smart family.
I invest in stocks but if a shoe hasn't reached its full potential worth yet i'll buy them..sail off white jordan 5s cost me $589 so i grabbed them because they always start out at that price and they sky rocket past $1,000 and stay around that price even if its slightly worn lol i never let my sneakers collect dust so its a win/win situation imo
Co-sign im also done!
I didn’t even get a chance to get started. I’ve been trying to give my money to Jordan Brand for almost two years now and guess how many times I’ve hit on anything? Zero!! I don’t buy resale as I wear my shoes so it’s not worth it to me. Imma keep trying but damn this is bullshit.
@@mustang9549 we all feel the same way sneaker fam..even had me thinking about Learning how to bot but that's expensive to do too..if i didn't have rent and bills to pay i would put all my money towards doing that and resell for decent prices to build a loyal clientele unlike everyone else lol this really sucks
Right about that mane!! Trying to do more investing for my retirement, than copping these sneakers. Even at retail prices, the way JB drops stuff you still spending thousands.
This is how it was explained to me..
For every shoe, Nike puts out contracts to different factories that shows the design of the shoe and what they want when it's created. Whichever factory makes the best product based on the specs Nike gave them, they win the contract and they produce the shoe. However, remember there's multiple factories that were handed out those contracts on the specs. They're supposed to "throw them away" and not put the shoe into production, but some factories don't do that. They make almost identical reps and sell them because they have the original design specs. 👌🏾
That is what I Thought since I have seen today replicas that are very similar than OG's.
That is a problem that Nike should take in consideration especially with the globalization of shipping....
Oh, so I will never have shame about buying reps
There’s no way they’re dumb enough to give the drawings and specs for a new shoe to multiple factories and just hope they toss them when they don’t get the contract. This is China where they are master imitators. They just buy the real shoe and source the closest material they can to make the shoes on their own. When it’s a new product, they have to reverse engineer it but with Jordan’s that have been around for years, they already have the plans and if they don’t, they’re for sale somewhere. Nike just isn’t giving them away willingly.
The first question you see now is “what’s the resell on these?” or “I don’t like these but I’m getting them for resell” it’s all messed up out here.
Truth, same thing happened to me when I went into Hibbett one day. I told them kids working in there I hit on the Frag Jordan 3 and the first thing mentioned was resale and was I going to wear them🤷🏽♂️
Exactly... Thats how you can weed out those MFs that don't give a shit about the culture and are in it for clout or resell value. 🖕🏾
Completely man, like what happened to getting them cuz you like em, funny thing is anything with a special label like “NRG” or “ Cactus Jack” will go for like 2,000 just cuz of that, some of them look nice but a lot are just ugly, like those union 4s they look like terrible, I swear they could take a Payless shoe stitch a jumpman and Nike with a lightning bolt or Dior on it and sell it for 1,000 sneaker game has been going downhill
cough j1 mids and lows cough
It makes me feel very uncomfortable wearing my jordans because I have a pair that have a high resell price but I’m scared to wear them, I miss the days when we used to actually wear our shoes not hoard them because of the resell price
If I can't hit on the shoe for retail, I just forget about it. Unfortunately the scarcity drives up demand and hype, it's now no longer but genuinely liking the shoes you're buying and only about "how much resell can you get".
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Yeah, I’m not buying a shoe for 400 either. I like shoes as much as the next guy but I don’t have it like that and can’t justify spending that kind of money. I’m not even a sneaker head like that but I tried to get pair of Kobe’s recently and that shit sold out in 3 minutes or something insane. Bought a pair of fakes on e-bay a long time ago (2012 hyperdunks lol) and I’m not going back to that to get burned again. Shot around in them once and you could tell by the foam/padding that they weren’t real.
I just came across this video and want to say I’m glad you touched on this topic. I became huge into sneakers in like 2015 and felt like it was not hard to get the shoes like it is now. I have not won a release since Footlocker and Champs switched over to the stupid FLX thing. Now SNKRS is like a needle in a haystack when it comes to getting a sneaker. I am not going to pay resell for any shoe at this point. Now seeing that replica sneakers are using the same materials it is just about them nailing certain details i will go that route. The everyday person does not have have $800 to throw on some damn shoes. Love this video you made!
The most f'up thing is that those who actually wants to wear the shoes can never get them retail, only reseller get retail for flipping... that's wrong man
True man
I’m so glad you used your platform to have this discussion... Love this channel more & more!!!
People will eventually catch on, the only people who'll buy from resellers will be celebrities
This sermon should've been put out on Sunday. Preach on sir.
Amen my brother...
Get the white gloves and a collection plate going
@@Westside_Hippie Lol. I don't missing being an usher. Lol
Robin Hood = Reps
The Sheriff of Nottingham = Resellers
I've tried to make this point for years, I'm glad you're bringing light to this issue.
I hate stockX and any resellers.
I hate their fees as a buyer. There are some great finds under retail. But with the processing fee, shipping, and tax the total goes back near retail price.
Me too!
@@willjr2520 facts!
@@willjr2520 that’s why I buy off goat. If you find a steal you just gotta pay the $12 shipping fee, which isn’t bad at all
@@willjr2520 For jordans i wouldnt shop on goat/stockX. For shoes like air maxes, the resell pages can save you like $40
I've stopped even caring about what shoe is dropping because the headache I'll be getting from just getting a pair shoes smh
Exactly! Me too. Taking Ls left and right. Thanks to bots, we can't even get the sneaker and wear it. I refuse to pay resell prices.... It's not that important
I’ll be honest I just bought a fake jordan 1 Travis low and I love them.
from where
Wish ? And hey if they get messed up it's not a huge hit
I got the lows and highs, dior 1s, and both of the union 4s they are exactly the same materials I see no point in buying retail anymore
@@DaBigBlud from what website?
@@DaBigBlud from where
You literally make my day every single time that you upload a vid, doesn't even matter if I like the shoe or not, I just watch it and learn a lot. Keep it up guys!
The thing with fakes is. Once you've worn them down a bit any imperfections won't even matter.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Lol
@@brentcrisler1390 lmao. Its is true tho.
@@brentcrisler1390 lmao hes right
@@uzzy1364 yep on good ones especially
For real even Stock X cant authenticate anything, its a con... Even in this video, the only reason he can tell is because he knows which one is fake. If he just got the fakes, with nothing to compare them to its just a guess. Hell there is a reason Nike got outlets in every town, their manufacturing process doesnt produce perfect shoes. There are noticable differences in some Jordans from one size to another.
These “super fakes” are made in the same sweatshops as your retail pair.
Facts
Hahaha
probably some reject from the original factory?
And that’s the thing ppl don’t understand
Not true.
Real simple Jordan bran produce more sneakers especially during the pandemic I haven’t hit on the Sneakers app in a calendar year on any sneaker
I work for Nike. I can't get everything. I've worn fakes in before and nobody notices. Shoes and jerseys. The jerseys are mainly for the quality. They charge $110 for a see through screen printed jersey vs a stitched one for $17 from overseas. The company really doesn't have much opportunity for their own employees to cop shoes too. I couldn't get the Grinches so I'll be copping the fakes too. I would much rather buy a fake than be out here lining a resellers pocket. That's just me though.
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I'm always afraid of buying fakes that have tech for playing basketball, I fear that I get injured beacuse of the fake tech
@@kristofkovacs5329 Yeah I don't typically play in fakes. A friend of mine actually has though and he says hes never had any issues.
@@falcongunner33 I'll keep that in mind next time I look at one my dude
I remember the Eastbay Mags and circling shoes that I wanted like the old Toys R Us Christmas Mags lol. there's guys like you that keep the old school mindset alive of loving and learning the history of sneakers. 🤘
The problem gets worse when mf sell fakes as if they were authentic.
Thats a true problem
This is the worst part of it
Too bad they haven chosen better profits first.. all real n fakes comes from the same source.
I do that all the time and I love it 😊😊
The crazy part is you could be wearing a pair of authentic Travis Scott 1’s and somebody can come up and say yo those are fake, and right there they’ve created doubt and now people think your real pair is fake. There are material and build variations even in real pairs, so it gets really difficult to tell the real ones from the fake ones at times.
I personally salute/thank Chris, because he really made me realize “things are only worth what your willing to pay for them”. I always think about that when I purchase anything. 💯
Hopefully, they’re hearing you because you’re not alone with your thoughts!!! I do remember the days I could go in the store and buy a pair with no problems until now.... Keep it up & truly appreciate you!!!
Reps all day. Never sell them though, run them to the ground.
Facts.
Yessir. I’m with you. At this point idc if people make fun of my fakes. If you wanna spend $1k on a shoe and then wear it and devalue it, be my guest lmao
Which version is in this video though?
@@stevejeffries2571 the fakes are on the right.
@@stevejeffries2571 no doubt. TS1s are my next pickup
Only a real sneaker head would make this kind of video. I agree with everything said. Thanks for using your platform to speak on this.
I really have given up on getting Jordans even though I want them. I’m not wearing fakes so I’m pretty much out of luck. And I refuse to pay resell prices
But if it’s made with the exact same material how is it “fake” it’s only considered fake bc there not sponsored by the brand
@W If some hypebeast kid bends down to inspect your shoe if they are fake or not just kick them in the face😂
@W fr though, there's no point in supporting them anymore because they don't care. Might as well get the fakes that look identical.
@W It's not about other people caring, it's about me caring. I can't do fakes cuz half the fun is being able to cop an authentic sneaker for retail. It's like a sport to me and so I look at both paying resale and buying fakes as cheating personally. My sneakers are like trophies lol. If I take an L I just move on to the next fight. Also I like to sell my sneakers once I'm done with them to get the money I spent on them back😂
If you want them just buy fakes bruh, nobody REALLY gives a flying fuck, just rock what you want, fuck what others might think, shallow ass shit
I agree 100% with everything you’re saying, I get so tired of missing out on raffles and I am sick of having to pay extra at StockEx
I blame the companies as well....I dont blame people wearing fakes. Why, because of these resellers trying to rip off faithful people. I have NEVER owned a pair of 11s because I can never afford and refuse to pay resell prices. I think jordan/nike should just push up the amount they make. That will solve the problem but I think they love this hype culture I hate it.
I agree with you too, but if you consistently go after what you like on SNKRS , Adidas and Confirmed apps, you WILL hit on some. I have copped some 11's, 13's, 1's, 5's and Yeezy's this way. Would like to try the UA's to see for myself though. Sneaker companies do not care, they counting their $$ AND they don't have those shoes sittin' in their warehouses waiting for a buyer!
🖕🏼resellers!
It’s totally the companies fault they enjoy this frenetic hypebeast/resell culture. Not worth paying resell and contributing to the problem.
Nike lives off of hype
Absolutely I agree with you. It's like the greed of the companies/brands vs the greed of the reseller....and who pays the price??? It's us sneaker lovers! ☹️
While I agree companies are greedy, I also would argue you’re not trying bro. Lmao, I have had to TRY every time to get an 11. And if I try hard enough, I get them. I.e. driving a couple hours to a dead nearby mall if I have to. They make hundreds and thousands of pairs. They’re out there if you really want them.
I can’t believe where the sneaker game has gone. I remember spending the summer in Cali with my grandmother (I’m from NY) and she took me to JC Penny and bought me me the entire “Bred 1” set. This was in ‘86, I was 7yrs old. I got the nylon pants, the shorts and the red tee that had the old Jordan logo (basketball with wings). I say all of that to make an important point. My mother bought me the Jordan 2’s when they released. I HAD THEM BEFORE MY GRANDMOTHER GOT ME THE BRED 1s!!!! So back then, you were STILL able to get your hands on a pair of Jays for RETAIL months later!!!!! I wasn’t a big basketball fan yet, so I really didn’t understand why everyone was so impressed with my kicks. I started to watch basketball around the time the 5’s were released. But again, it still amazes me that we’ve gotten to the point that it is damn near impossible to simply buy a sneaker you like. I remember being able to buy a pair, ruining them and possibly buying them AGAIN!!!!! Those days are certainly gone now...smh
Most people have justified buying replicas because they aren't trying to sell them or pass them off as real.
Or cauz they dont wannah pay resell
If people ask they are replicas. And I wear the absolute fuck out of each of my replica pairs and never feel bad about wearing them in the elements. It’s a win win win honestly.
Never bought replicas before but may look into the TS 1s cause I’m not paying that resell price.
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@@geronimo1595 if you’re serious, look into r/repsneakers on Reddit 👌 it’s been a game changer being able to afford and wear the sneakers that I love.
Awesome video, man! Love the channel.
It's a no-brainer when a resell price of a sneaker goes for 2-3k and one can find the fake shoe for 100 dollars or so. And you know the worst part? Its freaking better quality sometimes - goodbye glue stains, manufacturer issues. It's ridiculous, man. Still, i refrain from buying those, but can't blame anyone for doing so. Totally justified
This needed to be said and heard. I applaud you. We need more productions and more stoppage of the bots and scalpers.
The biggest problem is bulk resellers/bots, rigged raffles and backdooring. That's were option B is available for those that are tired of taking L's every release that just want to wear them.
True. I dont think the problem is resellers, anyone can sell anything. I think the problem is with the tools people are using to buy the pair. Nike or jordan or adidas can make 100mil pairs, bots can still eat these up imo.
This is why he is one of the GOATS on sneaker youtube...
@Captain Cookbook facts!
I have a real L&F and a rep pair. The Rep pair actually came out better than the real pair. The lateral side on the real right shoe looks like it has a damn Bunion. Can't believe it made it through QC.
The only reason why shoetuber say they can't wear fake is to only protect their channel integrity and views. If they didn't have a channel they would rock reps all day.
All the arguments for not buying reps are getting ridiculous now too. They're basically not trying to say, if other people can get them, then I don't feel cool anymore. Or how should I feel if I'm the only one paying resell/not making as much money by reselling. Its never about culture.
Who’s to say they aren’t rocking Reps?! 🤔
@@juniemade9712 for those reviewers who say not to buy reps, they seem to have a ever growing collection or reps. And say its for "research purposes".
I always say that Nike is leaving a ton of money on the table by not putting out more stock 💯. Hoping that changes soon.
It won’t. They tried that and it backfired. If shoes are too easy to cop hypebeasts will no longer have hype on the product. The shoes will be left sitting. Look at the Nike release calendar. Sneaker after sneaker after sneaker. And due to the hype the J’s and dunks all sell out instantly. Nike would prefer that than to meet demand on each release.
What I do hope is that they look at the recent yeezy bred rerelease. The production was HUGE, 500K pairs. Global sell out. On the back of last dance they could easily retro OGs with plenty of supply and make bank. Looks unlikely tho
@@BurnMyEyes0107 they could literally re release a pair every 7 months
@@BurnMyEyes0107 except from the exclusive seasonal or collab pairs
@@BurnMyEyes0107 I’m glad you point that out because people seem to forget Nike listened and increased production years ago and a lot of retros sat, went on sale, or went to outlets and Nike didn’t like that. I also remember because of that ppl saying Jordan’s are dying and all that and I never cared. It was just great to catch em easily and a lot of times on sale. You also perfectly said how they’ve countered by cramming releases on to the calendar, hype them, produce less, & sell out rather than less releases more pairs that ended up sitting. I still wish they’d just produce more but what’s happening now is EXACTLY what Nike wants.
@@BurnMyEyes0107 you are right but when stock numbers were high they were putting out bullshit ass colorways I remember working at footaction and footlocker 2014 2015 they were just some wack cw at that time
Finally somone that understands why people buy Reps... I've tried for years to buy a sneaker off nike and have never had luck no way in the world would i ever spend that amount of money for resale price. Shout out to the Plug you can never tell a difference unless you have them side by side ;)
Love the content bro. I completely agree with you. For me, I don’t wear fakes. I pay resell when it’s reasonable, but most of the time, I just buy something else that I can afford.
If I can’t cop for retail I’d only pay resell if I think it’s a reasonable price if not I just have to skip
Simple economic principle at play called "Willingness to Pay" -- companies and resellers benefit (profit) the most when they can sell us their products/goods as close to this price as possible. This would maximize their bottom line. If they could, they would target each of our individual "willingness to pay" prices for every product and only sell to those who have the highest willingness to pay -- In a way, resellers play this role in the secondary market. But at the end of the day, people who aren't willing to pay can hold off, look for alternatives, or as Chris highlighted, buy replicas for hundreds less. Great video highlighting a valid concern. Thanks Chris.
Man Chris you speak out my mind right now! I really appreciate your knowledge and content!!!
Big props for this video man! You not only highlighted the problem, but you proposed a reasonable solution too. Great video to get the message out there 🤟
I got tf out the sneaker "game" two years ago and sold everything Nike & Jordan Brand. I'm only wearing New Balances now. 990s. Constant high quality materials, precise craftsmanship, comfortable af, very nice colorways and good prices after they go on sale (and they almost all do). I'm much happier now.
This year has definitely ruined my experience with sneakers. From not being able to buy the ones I want because of resellers to not having anywhere to wear what I already own.
I feel you on not having anywhere to wear the shoes. With the courts closed down, I got hella basketball shoes i havent worn yet...
This video just convinced me to cop my first pair of reps.
i wear reps please get into it its so much cheaper i have 10reps and paid 350 usd for all of em combined
damn i rly want reps since I'm still a teenager and i can't afford the expensive resell prices. but I'm afraid to get called out and get asked where i bought them...
@@gatomeong tell them they're reps and you don't give a shit what people think, you just wear what you like
Your knowledge on sneakers, especially Nike's and Jordan's is unparalleled compared to other youtubers and so-called experts on the net. Keep up the great content.
L after L. I literally can’t buy Js.
*any shoes that we want on snkr*
I know how you feel man. I finally cracked and over paid for some sneakers on stockX
@@TheChemist2159 which ones?
@@BurnMyEyes0107 Michigan high dunks 🤦♂️
I took an L on every drop except the Top 3 5's
Also with reps, you can wear your sneakers without being scared. You can always buy a new pair down the line.
Imaging spending $2000 on retail travis. Would you be brave enough to unds and wear em out? No, most of the retail shoes collector dont even wear their shoes. They hide them in a box in closet all because of scaring losing "value"
Well said and nicely put, got screwed on those, was on shoulda had em and then the SNKRS app disconnected and when I got back , SOLD OUT, tired of that from SNKRS and Nike, made a complaint and asked a few questions but never got a response or reply, shows me where I sit as a customer/consumer
I thought I was the only one getting annoyed by the reselling industry, people are now hogging sneakers only to sell them for profit, they resort to bots now and not even 1 minute out, the shoes are sold out, bruh
Have you watched any of these reseller videos on UA-cam? The resellers are killing guys trying to sell their shoes to them and CRUSHING people who buy those shoes from them. That is what has really effed up the sneaker game for those of us who just want the shoe to wear, for their collection or both.
🖕🏼resellers!
Wow, did not know that with the graphics cards. That is crazy AND it sucks! 👎🏼
i saw a video the other day of a guy with 100 pairs from like on finish line. its rediculius, the only time i dont care bout resellers is when theyre going out buying them from othrr people
Even reselling ps5 or Xbox thru stock x for doble the money is messed up
Honestly I wanna resell sneakers but without the use of bots and gross over pricing. I don't want to use bots because its just unfair on people wanting the shoe normally. I hope this doesn't come off as dickish.
My sources from China told me.. some factories can do a shoe that is more perfect than the real thing. Oh trust me I bought a lot of reals.. some has glue sticking out or scratches .. esp the fire red 4s .. glues on the 1s. My source says if u buy the highest grade it’d be perfect. N the funny part is I showed them a flyknit 4s real.... They said it look like a 60 dollar pair ... it is real ..but seriously, wtf
Love this vid! I agree with everything. Back in the day you only missed out if you came too late, your size was gone or you didn’t have the money. Now, BOTS!!!!
raffles are rigged. when i used to work at footlocker, my manager would let people win a raffle if someone pays him to “draw” their name
I just recently got into the sneaker "game" whatever you call it lol. But I say it's more like taken interests and wanting to wear cool shoes yada yada yada...anyway when I learned all this and I was like no way or the heck people pay that much? I would never pay anyone more than the original price, just sad that some do. Wanted a pair of Jordans since I never owned one, but I don't think I will. I just find other alternatives like Adidas or Onitsuka Tiger, much more affordable and more attainable than the hyped Jordans.
I'm cool with it.
Resellers did this to me. Been a loyal Jordan fan since '92.
Since 2015, I've been hitting up reps. I never hit on Jordan 1's. Ever. Last real Jordan 1's I got was, Jordan 1 Court Purple. I still try copping to this day.
Yeah I always wonder why Nike/Jordan don’t make enough pairs for everyone. These resellers are getting super played out!
Simple solution for Nike:
Make your sneaker release a pre-order.
Or do a two-step verification process such as a captcha and an order approval from the bank card or PayPal for the more exclusive shoes.
There’s no hype or marketing for Nike if they do that. It helps the consumer for sure but they’re too greedy. All they’d do is limit the preorder which would still generate a resell market.
"I'm not a Robot"
No body is going to tell you exactly how they do it but to see a guy with 50 to 100 pair in a pic and I wanted one pair 🤔, is a real bitch! Sometimes I wonder if these brands are in with the resellers because of all the money left on the table.
LOVE the video!!!!! I remember when you could just walk in your neighborhood foot locker, city sports (Chicago), etc. and get heat........now the game is full of bots, resellers, and a whole lot less shoes made or accessibility
The brands are putting us in this position by making shoes wayy too limited and I haven’t bought any UA’s yet but I’m heavily considering buying them because tired of taking constant L’s especially on SNKRS app it’s very annoying fr
I would buy a replica before I would pay resale for a hyped up shoe.
Me too
Fr, I'm actually looking for these
In my country these reps cost so fucking much
Very valid points man. I agree if you push people they will resort to what they need to do. With image being so "important" people will fake it. But to each its own. But quality is quality.
Hypebeast are fucking the shoe game up fr man🤦🏾♂️
If I miss out on the retail release, I will just do without the shoe. 9 times out of 10, I just take the money that I was going to spend with that company and spend it with another company
Hi Chris. I agree with you 100%. I am an early 90's kid and like you, I am sentimental and prefer to collect the shoes from my youth that I wore out the first time I owned them. I am a huge baseball and basketball fan so Jeter, Griffey, and Jordan shoes are normally at the top of my list. I have a small collection that I prefer to wear (in the right conditions). In terms of your video, I don't buy fakes, cant afford resale, and typically can't get retail. I typically hunt for the specific shoe I want on eBay hoping to find a deal on the exact pair I'm looking for that has been worn a handful of times or less. In terms of new shoes I mostly buy kicks that I can wear on the basketball court or the baseball field and even those have begun to approach the exact problem you address in this video. Regardless, thanks to you and Jodi for the great videos. I do not subscribe to many channels but this is one of the few. Its nice to see and hear from someone from the same/similar generation as me that isn't solely (pun intended) focused on the new hype (even though it is fun to look at) and appreciates the shoes from their youth. Thanks again!!
Will people finally stop the “fake” term when it’s clearly made with authentic materials. Chris is being unbiased and honest when he says this shoe is made better than pairs received from a retail store. I rock both and UAs from the right supplier are killing what you buy from stores. It’s not even close
But they are fake. It's not made by nike.
@@bigogamelife2201 If it’s is made with REAL materials, how is it fake? Yes it is not made by a FACTORY that Nike AUTHORIZED. But please understand that the factory that made this shoe was once AUTHORIZED to make shoes for Nike. Do your research. Nike doesn’t have just one factory that makes all of their shoes
@@la9inebillion because it’s not made by Nike lol
What are some web addresses so I can buy some UA, I need to do my own comparison shopping.
The most I paid for a shoe in my life was a couple of months back I bought the Yeezy‘s cinders off of StockX for $380 + shipping so I ended up paying like $410 in total. NEVER doing that again!
Happy to see people with a platform like you taking this issue seriously. It is a problem for us but not a problem for the brand. On the contrary, Its in the brand interest to create scarcity on premium partnership products with artists or athletes so when GR products hit the market we, as consumers, are ready to buy regardless (dunks 2021 strategy, ,mochas etc). We are to blame too.
#StopTheResell
Don’t buy shoes for resell especially from resellers. Let them bot buy and by thousands. But don’t buy from them. If people don’t buy they don’t sell. Make them sell for retail.
But sadly the rich don't care how much they are and there's plenty of rich people in the world.
Easier said than done
you have to understand supply and demand. in business there's something called sales velocity. Just like how hype shoes increase in price, because it sold out; certain shoes go on sale, because they don't sell at a given price. everything has a price based on what most people are willing to pay. also, understand why louis vuitton can make billions at their price point versus why nike makes billions at its price points. resell is not the problem. counterfeit items are the problem. nike should see how chanel or louis vuitton combats fakes
@@ki6eki we made some 150$ shoes cost 500+ WE did that not the company. Designer is supposed to be expensive because it’s “high quality materials” but Most Js be having some cheap ass plastic but the hype is real so the go for at least 200+ higher than retail
@@6av1d8 deadass, I be touching most Js and some Nikes like “yuck” cuz the material be feeling like them plastic storage bins. Def not paying resale value for material that don’t even cut retail value.
I love it! Just thank nike for us coppin at a reasonable price instead of a 1000% increase. They will never stop Uas!
Yes buying sneakers nowadays suck. My motto now is, if I can’t get a sneaker I want for retail, I move on to the next sneaker I want. I wear the money size shoes so it sucks. Also, now resellers are buying up the GS sizes so parents can’t even buy a pair of sneakers for the kids for retail. Sad & crazy.
Reps over pay resell and pocketing resellers.
Reps are excellent nowadays, same quality same materials. Save money and be smart. Invest your money to other things and just buy reps. No one can tell 6ft away on feet.
Nike fault for making it limited and not making available for all of us. Hype shoes cost over $500 average.
Nike should restock the past 3 years of all the limited sneakers and lets us do a preorder 24 hour window to place our order purchase.
This video has went viral amongst the sneaker community... because its the TRUTH. Its a hard situation. You can't be apart of the Jordan Brand unless you're an all star player. I think making more pair to make the shoes more accessible takes away from the mystique and the value a true fan or collector would have towards these pairs because its easilyaccessible... yet having less pairs creates the mess with the UA sneakers. Its a very difficult situation.
The only people who would be hurt by “fake pairs” are the ones that spent $1800 for the “authentic pairs” both made in the same factory
Nope only u hurt. The fake has no real value. Authentic they hold value.
@@sneakerhead4770 I don’t care about value I care about what looks good on my feet, I wear my shoes I don’t buy them just to look at them go up in value, it’s not even that good of a return on your investment tbh
Not as an investment but just as a physical good which holds its value. A lot of people wear authentics and sell them and get their money back after enjoying for 2-3 years and still come out on top. I don’t sell my personal shoes I like to keep them but some people like to be out with the old or don’t want to overfill their closet. Fakes are an L if u ask me but do u
@@sneakerhead4770 They only hold value if unused, I Rather buy a new Rep than and old “Authentic”. And if it was bought on an app there’s a chance it’s not authentic. People are passing legit checks with Reps now.
Junie Made oh so used offwhite chicago 1s don’t sell for 2k+ lol there are plenty of shoes that still fetch 800-2k used that’s what I mean by they hold value. You could have wore 85 1s for 30 years and then sold them for 1000 after they are completely toasted. Can u do that with ur fakes?
Dudes watch the complex shopping videos and all of a sudden think they have the same bread and start spending money they don’t have.
I only wear originals.....but is a good point that the brands should make more models available to more people worldwide in order to avoid the fake shoes take over the market and it doesn't cost the people's job who work honestly (talking of any brand).
Ima be completely honest with y’all I buy UAs. I’m sick and tired of taking Ls on snrks and I don’t trust private sellers. The only thing I hate is when ppl sell UAs as real. That’s some shady shit.
What does UA mean?
@@backseatdog unauthorized Authentic
@@backseatdog Yeah there are tons of websites you can buy from
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OG Tony, Coco Sneakers ect have good reps
When people saying "I can't wear fakes"
Please give me a reason why not? Its just freaking shoe. Same materials same quality. It goes on your feet and touch the dirty ground.
Just something about having authentics that make things all the better but I ain't supporting paying over $300 for some sneakers.
Why would you wear fakes actually what's the point in buying an imitation, why not just buy original designs from unknown brands?
@@hakatapawa7115 maybe cause one likes the design of the shoe. Life is too short to worry real or reps. Just wear what you want.
Bro you really give both sides and that’s why I’m happy I follow yuh 💯
Hilarious how the "shoe industry" is a perfectly operating industry with minimal "problems". This 0.5% of the industry, all these collectible, rare, limited , expensive resale shoes etc... Only problems are the idiots that pay these hundreds and thousands of dollars for them.
I agree! Resellers not the problem , idiots who buy from them are the problem.
Honestly I would buy those high quality fakes than show off a stock x tag on a shoe I paid hundreds over retail over to everyone lol
Because u are seeking validation from others. Otherwise there are plenty of sneakers at retail that are real
@@sneakerhead4770 a $200 shoe is exactly that, the same would apply buying an over priced shoe from a reseller to seek validation from others cause you paid more. A Shelby Cobra Replica cost $50-$100k and no one has a problem paying it because it was designed well and looks great. The same should apply to a replica shoe. Thanks Nike for the design, we’ll take it from here...
@@sneakerhead4770 it doesn't mean someone is seeking validation. It's possible to love a colorway and shoe and actually want them to wear. Everyone isn't a hypebeast kid
Endless possibilities did u miss the part about him flexing the stockx tag like he paid hundreds over retail?
@@sneakerhead4770 reread his comment. He said he rather buy replicas than showing off a StockX tag
Alot of people don't remember but man I remember when tonywild , scoop , jeerzy deep, niolinares were all replica heads. That movement made a hard push back in the day. It died down when the sellers started scamming though. Nio also went to jail but it was a wild ride back in the day.
I remember!
100% agree, with everything! It’s a problem and I’m glad someone of your position is putting it out there, helping our voices be heard!
This is so true...Nightwing been keeping it real 💯
I dunno much about the industry but I think something like pre-orders could be beneficial, especially for us consumers. Nike for example could announce the release of a Jordan 1 colorway before manufacturing and start taking pre-orders, that solves the issue of needing to stay up all day and night refreshing the site. it also helps the company out since they'd know more or less how many pairs they need to make. I don't think it would put resellers out of commission either since If you miss out on a colorway you wanted you could either wait for another release which could take some time or you could cop through resale.
With a little patience you can always find a good price especially on the less hyped stuff.
a good price is only retail.