Right before the pandemic hits, I auditioned for Final Audio this thing got me through the lean year. so much love for this product. Be warned This tuning is not for everyone. My nirvana in the ear.
Agreed. It's certainly not for everyone. Funnily, even for me, how much I appreciate the sound changes depending on what phase of treble tolerance I am going through, lol. But if you can get used to it, it's a unique treat.
I would agree with everything you've said except I'd flip flop the sets. The U12T is awesome but it bores me after a month or so. I never tire of the a8000. Textures are amazing on both.
I've heard the Final A8000 has the widest soundstage of any IEM was that what you found as well compared to the U12T? Or does the U12T stack up just as much
This is kind of a weird question, but how would you compare the soundstage between the Final A8000 and the Hifiman Arya? I own and love the Arya and am desperately looking for an IEM equivalent to it.
Hi the A8000 is closer to a Focal Utopia. Sound stage is decent, but I wouldn't say it's the Arya equivalent-IEM. However, I did A/B between the two, and the A8000 gives you more resolution and clarity, but the Arya gives a larger soundstage!
@@amplifyaudioreviews good to know, thanks for taking the time to test it out! Do you know of any other headphones/iems that compare to the Arya in it's type of soundstage between $2k-4k? I've been looking for an upgrade but so far it's been looking like the next step is the Susvara 😬
@@amplifyaudioreviews My preference with good tonality, m9 is current my favorite, it’s quite good but sometimes it gets boring to listen. I’ve tried z1r and i found that i had treble harsh issue.
Shure se846 is pretty irrelevant these days especially for the price. Not a bad iem but it’s 10 years old already and easily beaten by some $200-300 new kids on the block
@@keithb5612 many good iems these days. Brands like Moondrop offer excellent earphones between $90 and $800 that sound pretty amazing (S8, Variations, Blessing 2 Dusk, Aria) Another excellent brand is Thie Audio. Again many very well tuned iems in their lineup. Their newest Oracle, Clairvoyance or Monarch are tuned as good as any top of the line earphones rivaling stuff that is priced 2-3 times higher. 200-300 they have the Legacy 4 or 5. Any Etymotic is a good option too, as long as the fit works for you. Sony ier m7 is a very good option as well. There’s many other earphones that are excellent I just haven’t heard all of them. The competition in the market is very strong right now which is very good for enthusiasts like us. The Shure se846 has good isolation, durability and fit which makes it good for stage use and monitoring. But for casual listening fall behind the newer earphones. My biggest problem with its tuning is the lack of treble extension past 10Khz.
I think it's a huge technical achievement Sajid, when a special DD type of technology makes a person choose it over a cutting edge multi BA set. Surely, the A8000 almost make your Andro '20 nearly redundant? There a used A8000 set on ebay in the UK, £1150 ($1599) and they'll struggle to sell at that price. A great deal. I'm guessing you'd likely still chose the A8000 used, over a new set of Ando's?? Not a fair comparison I know...
Hey, W41N, I would, in fact, choose the A8000 over the Andros! And I did. I sold the Andros a little earlier. :) The thing though is that the A8000 can be bright and difficult on poorly recorded tracks. But when it works, it's just wow. I have come to prefer that excitement, over time, rather than U12t's safe tuning (or Andro 2020's for that matter), if that makes sense. The Andros aren't also technically not quite at the A8000 / U12t level either, so that's there. Hope this helps.
@@amplifyaudioreviews Wow, cheers for that Sajid. I hadn't realised that the Andro's had gone! But from all you'd said, it seemed to me like the A8000's were doing all the Ando's did, and much more. £2,000 new is way out of my budget/comfort zone. BUT £1,000 used is not. It's vital to get an honest low-down on IEM's as they are my main way I listen to music. Plus, I really don't want to form a collection because each IEM is fundamentally flawed, if that makes sense. I'd rather have one decent set. I can tell from how you describe the A8000, that it wouldn't matter what genre is played on them - as they are clear, musical and detailed regardless. A few weeks ago I was thinking multi-drivers (like I have now) would always outshine a single driver solution. But Final obviously nailed it. I even think any drawback of the A8000, are outweighed by the positives. I'd likely hear the effects on synths for example, but it would pale compared to the other sonic benefits. Before I upgrade my Shure's I'd love to hear a comparison of the A8000 compared to the Sony Z1R, but I doubt it could be worn for more than an hour due to its weight. But I think 2 DD's+1BA could be an interesting battle for the A8000. As ever, cheers for the reply. My upgrade is one I want to research and get right first time. **From opinions I've seen, the Z1R isn't so good for male vocal balance, and the singers in the bands I follow are male vocalists. So I think the Z1R for me is kind of a non-starter.
@@H-4-D3423 Hello, Can I ask, is it really worth to buy U12T? (I am a regular AirPods Pro user that If I switch from Airpods to U12T, the difference will worth? Thank you) Also, U12T or Final A8000 is better?
Yeah correct. They're super nice guys and their factory/store is amazing. I made an appointment and they allowed me to try all their iems over 2 hours! I left with the Trio.
@@nicklittle2413 Hello, which one is better Final A8000 or U12T? Also, is it really worth to buy U12T? (I am a regular AirPods Pro user that If I switch from Airpods to U12T, the difference will worth? Thank you)
@@kaankucuk1612 any 64 Audio IEM is going to blow your mind coming from the airpods pro (I have these for traveling too) - depends how important comfort is to you, I tried every one of their IEMS and loved the Trio, I now have the Fourte as I got a used pair very cheap. You cannot go wrong with u12T, get a used pair from ebay or headfi and if you don't like them resell them at a similar price.
Hi, you have compared IE 900 to IERZ1R and U12T to A8000. Can you now compare A8000 to IE 900? Thanks.
Loved it
Loved the straightforwardness of yours
I did not understand how 8 minutes went by😂
What type of wire are you using for U12t? Thanks
Right before the pandemic hits, I auditioned for Final Audio this thing got me through the lean year. so much love for this product. Be warned This tuning is not for everyone. My nirvana in the ear.
Agreed. It's certainly not for everyone. Funnily, even for me, how much I appreciate the sound changes depending on what phase of treble tolerance I am going through, lol. But if you can get used to it, it's a unique treat.
I would agree with everything you've said except I'd flip flop the sets.
The U12T is awesome but it bores me after a month or so. I never tire of the a8000. Textures are amazing on both.
camfire ara compared to a8000 similar performed. so,u12t similar too? all 3 are sidegrade if from ara go to u12t?
Are those spinfit CP145 Eartips on the u12t?
Great review, well done 👏 need to get both of them …
Thanks!
Do you prefer the A8000 over the ie900?
Great comparison! Love my u12t!
The U12t is excellent!
I have U18S. It sucks ass
What’s the best eartip for the u12t?
I've heard the Final A8000 has the widest soundstage of any IEM was that what you found as well compared to the U12T? Or does the U12T stack up just as much
I personally found the U12T slightly wider than than the A8000.
To be sure about the bass, you should have tried all the different "modules" available for the U12T.
It gives this IEM many more signature options.
Agreed. I did, actually. I am going to redo the U12t review.
This is kind of a weird question, but how would you compare the soundstage between the Final A8000 and the Hifiman Arya? I own and love the Arya and am desperately looking for an IEM equivalent to it.
Hi the A8000 is closer to a Focal Utopia. Sound stage is decent, but I wouldn't say it's the Arya equivalent-IEM. However, I did A/B between the two, and the A8000 gives you more resolution and clarity, but the Arya gives a larger soundstage!
@@amplifyaudioreviews good to know, thanks for taking the time to test it out!
Do you know of any other headphones/iems that compare to the Arya in it's type of soundstage between $2k-4k? I've been looking for an upgrade but so far it's been looking like the next step is the Susvara 😬
Is the u12t or a8000, which one worth upgrading from ier m9?
Hard to tell. What are your sound sig preferences?
@@amplifyaudioreviews My preference with good tonality, m9 is current my favorite, it’s quite good but sometimes it gets boring to listen. I’ve tried z1r and i found that i had treble harsh issue.
@@newsappa49 Yeah, the Z1R wasn't as sweet a listen for me. I found the midrange a tad dry and unengaging.
Thanks for the review. Would these iem's be a definable uograde from the Shure se846 and Beyerdynamic Xelento iems? Many thanks
Yes, I think so. :)
Shure se846 is pretty irrelevant these days especially for the price. Not a bad iem but it’s 10 years old already and easily beaten by some $200-300 new kids on the block
@@LuboAck Thanks. What iems do you suggest are better than the Shure ie 846?
@@keithb5612 many good iems these days. Brands like Moondrop offer excellent earphones between $90 and $800 that sound pretty amazing (S8, Variations, Blessing 2 Dusk, Aria)
Another excellent brand is Thie Audio. Again many very well tuned iems in their lineup. Their newest Oracle, Clairvoyance or Monarch are tuned as good as any top of the line earphones rivaling stuff that is priced 2-3 times higher. 200-300 they have the Legacy 4 or 5.
Any Etymotic is a good option too, as long as the fit works for you. Sony ier m7 is a very good option as well. There’s many other earphones that are excellent I just haven’t heard all of them. The competition in the market is very strong right now which is very good for enthusiasts like us. The Shure se846 has good isolation, durability and fit which makes it good for stage use and monitoring. But for casual listening fall behind the newer earphones. My biggest problem with its tuning is the lack of treble extension past 10Khz.
@@LuboAck Great advice. Many thanks for that.
I think it's a huge technical achievement Sajid, when a special DD type of technology makes a person choose it over a cutting edge multi BA set. Surely, the A8000 almost make your Andro '20 nearly redundant? There a used A8000 set on ebay in the UK, £1150 ($1599) and they'll struggle to sell at that price. A great deal.
I'm guessing you'd likely still chose the A8000 used, over a new set of Ando's?? Not a fair comparison I know...
Hey, W41N, I would, in fact, choose the A8000 over the Andros! And I did. I sold the Andros a little earlier. :) The thing though is that the A8000 can be bright and difficult on poorly recorded tracks. But when it works, it's just wow. I have come to prefer that excitement, over time, rather than U12t's safe tuning (or Andro 2020's for that matter), if that makes sense. The Andros aren't also technically not quite at the A8000 / U12t level either, so that's there. Hope this helps.
@@amplifyaudioreviews Wow, cheers for that Sajid. I hadn't realised that the Andro's had gone! But from all you'd said, it seemed to me like the A8000's were doing all the Ando's did, and much more. £2,000 new is way out of my budget/comfort zone. BUT £1,000 used is not. It's vital to get an honest low-down on IEM's as they are my main way I listen to music. Plus, I really don't want to form a collection because each IEM is fundamentally flawed, if that makes sense. I'd rather have one decent set.
I can tell from how you describe the A8000, that it wouldn't matter what genre is played on them - as they are clear, musical and detailed regardless. A few weeks ago I was thinking multi-drivers (like I have now) would always outshine a single driver solution. But Final obviously nailed it. I even think any drawback of the A8000, are outweighed by the positives. I'd likely hear the effects on synths for example, but it would pale compared to the other sonic benefits.
Before I upgrade my Shure's I'd love to hear a comparison of the A8000 compared to the Sony Z1R, but I doubt it could be worn for more than an hour due to its weight. But I think 2 DD's+1BA could be an interesting battle for the A8000. As ever, cheers for the reply. My upgrade is one I want to research and get right first time. **From opinions I've seen, the Z1R isn't so good for male vocal balance, and the singers in the bands I follow are male vocalists. So I think the Z1R for me is kind of a non-starter.
@@H-4-D3423 Hello, Can I ask, is it really worth to buy U12T? (I am a regular AirPods Pro user that If I switch from Airpods to U12T, the difference will worth? Thank you)
Also, U12T or Final A8000 is better?
finally final
U12t from USA, not Canada. I'm pretty sure. But ya know, I've been wrong before. In fact...
It's very funny actually. They are located in a city in Washington called Vancouver... hence the mix-up.
Yeah correct. They're super nice guys and their factory/store is amazing. I made an appointment and they allowed me to try all their iems over 2 hours! I left with the Trio.
@@nicklittle2413 Hello, which one is better Final A8000 or U12T?
Also, is it really worth to buy U12T? (I am a regular AirPods Pro user that If I switch from Airpods to U12T, the difference will worth? Thank you)
@@kaankucuk1612 any 64 Audio IEM is going to blow your mind coming from the airpods pro (I have these for traveling too) - depends how important comfort is to you, I tried every one of their IEMS and loved the Trio, I now have the Fourte as I got a used pair very cheap.
You cannot go wrong with u12T, get a used pair from ebay or headfi and if you don't like them resell them at a similar price.
@@nicklittle2413 do you think, DAP or Dac is better?
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64 Audio U12t better)