The Truth About Liberica Coffee | Interview: Dr. Steffen Schwarz
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- Dr. Steffen Schwarz of the Coffee Consulate in Germany has more than 20 years of experience in the industry.
He is both a researcher, consultant, coffee trader, and an entrepreneur.
In 2019 he arranged the world's first Liberica coffee roasting championship and expo in Borneo.
Read more about his work here ➡ coffee-consulate.com/en/
Liberica coffee accounts for less than 1% of commercial coffee production. Today it's mainly grown in Malaysia and the Philippines.
Around 1870 it was taken from Liberia in West Africa and planted in other parts of the world. Initially, it was believed to be a potential Arabica rival. However, due to leaf rust it was more or less abandoned by 1895.
Some Liberica trees have survived in the wild until now. After more than 120 years in relative obscurity, the coffee world is starting to rediscover Liberica coffee.
Read more about Liberica here ➡ coffeechronicler.com/liberica...
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i have planted 10,000 Liberica plants, will have commercial production around 2023-2024. planning to export to the US and other markets.
Im growing these in Venezuela. I found this video precisely because I want to try grafting extremely high quality arabicas onto it. Im starting a large nursery of Liberica and Excelsa with Java, Yemenese Moca, pink bourbon, papayo, monte claro, criolle, caturro, monte claro, and a low altitude even sweeter faccimily to geisha called chiroso. Wish me luck! Liberica Grafting tips welcome.
the south east asian community has been summoned. quality and informative content! very underrated channel
Liberica is such a huge part of Philippine culture. We have a colloquial term for it, we call it "barako" which means "macho." It's usually roasted very dark and thought to be very high in caffeine. I started roasting it lighter about 2 years ago and to this day people are so surprised to discover how fruity it is!
I love your liberica roast! I followed the lower temp suggestion and I'm so happy.
Do you recommend liberica for cold brew? If so, what roast level do you think would work best?
Malaysian liberica is so different from our barako. The former has no bitterness at all and the caffeine content is lower. Malaysian liberica is also sweet as what the guy in the video mentioned.
I certainly agree. No coffee should be burned, but that seems to be the fad these days.
@@garrymiller2769 “these days”? :) everyone since the Ethiopians to the Italians has loved to roast dark.
Greetings from the Philippines. I learned so much about Liberica in just this lecture. Thank you
I agree on what have discussed in this video. I planted 4000 Liberica trees last 2019 and continue to expand my coffee farm. Currently I do harvest from old Liberica trees.
I'm currently having a Red Honey Liberica from Batangas. It tastes of tart cherries, pineapple, chestnuts and apple jam. It blew my mind that I'm having a Liberica that can contend with specialty Arabicas.
Where can i buy this in the Philippines?
@@aiendail Habitual Coffee sells it. Unfortunately, I think it is out of stock.
@@marcorances956 I tried to look on their website but it wasn't working (and I'm not going on Facebook)
@@aimeem Hi. I don't think Habitual Coffee sells it anymore. However, you can try getting some from The Vault Ph.
@@aimeemi see liberica in Uganda
Excellent video and very informative. I live in Malaysia and i often get some good (and very bad) Liberica for my roasting business. Most of the Liberica growers are down the South of Malaysia, with some micro farmers dotted around. I have heard that there might also be one or two growing Liberica in the Genting Highlands region, where they grow Tea.
I am on a bit of a Liberica mission at the moment, i have had some beans that are nearly undrinkable just after roasting, the flavor being a mixture of Chinese herbal medicine, the deep bitterness that you get with liquorish and that very dry after taste, that you get if you leave a tea bag in water for a few hours. I find that Liberica also needs a lot longer to rest after roasting, before the bitterness from degassing goes away and is replaced with a very fruity character like Lemon, bitter apples, mango and even lime with a top heavy sweetness.
However that Liberica characteristic herbal flavor persists and this takes some time to get used to. I have started blending Liberica with other beans, so work reasonably well, like some Ethiopians, even some Guatamalan naturals work quite well with a 20% Liberica blend, if you let the Liberica rest long enough.
I think that apart from that fact that coffee growing is very difficult and takes years to set up and crow a crop, plus there really is no incentive from the Malaysian government to grow coffee here, the Government much prefer the Palm oil industry over anything else, even the rubber industry these days, so only a few really dedicated and enthusiastic coffee growers are doing this at the moment, i hope that this changes in the near future.
Honey proccess solved that problem, gassing 5 days, resting 7 - 10 days
@@babulsantai yes i agree that extra degassing and resting period is very important.
@META Coffee Sorry to ask, but I lived in Thailand. I want to ask you if there are people in Malaysia who sells cherries or small Liberica trees. I would like to experiment some of those if it is possible to get some, because in Thailand right know Liberca is not possible to sell and can be only import.
@@user-zn1pc8hn9mwe have it in Uganda
In Indonesia, Liberica coffee is very nutty with a hint of fruity sweetness, it is not too acidic (the roast is usually dark) - probably the best tubruk coffee beans we can create from. Cannot understand why it is not as popular as it is in America and Africa since decades ago. Probably because it is our imagination of "wild coffee". It is very tall, challenging to harvest, nobody seems to be interested in it, except the wild animals. I read that it is originally came from Central Africa, and brought to the Philippines by the Spanish to supplement the Arabica and Robusta that succumbed to coffee rust disease in late 19th century. The Dutch also do similar things in Indonesia around the same period, especially to the island of Java. It is also popular in Malaysia in their coffee belt, primarily due to Javanese immigration during the period.
Oh wow, this is all new to me. Haven't learned this much new stuff about coffee for a long long time.
I have liberica farm in west borneo indonesia,but i dont have knowledge to take care of it properly,but i really want to develop this coffe,i can see big potential in it.
This video should go viral 💥💥💥! Love all the information, amazing content!
Glad to see Liberica getting more attention!
Thanks! Very informative. Excited for the future.
Very insightful! Thank you!
Awesome video. As a specialty coffee barista, this interview puts into perspective some of the general informations that circulate in our microcosms and destroys a lot of regurgitated information.
Thank you for educating me!
Just found this video. I'm in Flores, Indonesia. We do have liberica here in Manggarai area. Roasted two days ago medium dark. Would love to try light to medium roast.
What a wonderful intereview! VERY interesting!
LOVE videos like this! Very interested in the potential of the various untapped coffee landscapes out there. Thanks for providing this informarion.
That's awesome to hear :) Still lots of interesting coffees to explore out there!
While Liberica here in our country is pretty common, a huge percentage of our Liberica plantation was devastated by a volcano eruption last year. :(
Sorry to hear about that!
Yo, I've been looking for Liberica seedlings for the longest time. I would like to ask if you have any liberica seedlings, and how much are you willing to sell one? I'm located here in Baliuag, Bulacan.
A note on grafting onto Liberica root stock. We've been doing it in Hawaii for many years now with great success - mainly Typica but also SL34, Geisha, Bourbons, etc. Many report higher yields. Like to know more about its resistance to Coffee Leaf Rust (CLR) now that its been discovered in Hawaii. I have a few mature Liberica plants. I might to start more in the nursery. Thanks for video. Very informative.
Quality content! I wish more people could hear Dr. Schwarz's explanation of the flavor of kopi luwak, which is a strong argument for biodiversity and nature rather than animal abuse and novelty-seeking commercial schemes.
Awesome Video!
Would love to one day try this
This was great Asser. Keep it up!
It was so helpfull thanks ❤
Sure good to see this video. Liberica has long been one of my favorite beans since i spent time in the Philippines. Sadly i have not been able to find it here in Canada, or even a source to order from.
We have liberica available now in the U.S.! Just the thing is a little bit expensive shipping to Canada...
@Garry Miller: there is a roaster in Saskatoon called LeClair Organics selling a “medium roast” Liberica, currently on sale for $28.50CAD (200g) plus shipping & tax. They also occasionally offer what they describe as “the 4th coffee species”: racemosa @ $64.90CAD for 32g! No idea what they’re like. Just what I found.
I have to say these are the best coffee videos I’ve seen on the internet. Best of luck with your channel!
Thanks 😊
Liberica generally plant on low land, and many region on West Borneo, Indonesia Produce liberica coffee. We grown many varieties liberica with great taste.
What a great vids. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Hopefully liberica could be our savior for the future years..
Hello...very interesting topic and great work from you enriching an already great channel! Just one thing..please do something about the sound!
The grafting bit is insanely interesting!
I’m very familiar with it as I lived in one of the major producing countries of Liberica. I got it often in the speciality shops, mostly it where not really that great, and often had a weird cup profile like no other coffee, but sometimes you did get a very interesting profile, so yes in contrast to Robusta, I do believe Liberica has a potential but there is really a long time before we are there yet, the coffee producing countries aren’t on the same level as Africa and the Americas, lack of altitude is often also a challenge.
One of my favourite Liberica come from House of Kendal coffee… and almost every week preparing cold brew from Liberica for my Nitro Cold Brew best selling with jack fruit taste…
House of Kendal makes some very tasty stuff!
Amazing video and lot of information! Thanks for sharing all this. Liberica looks like a very robust variety of plant and it looks like the answer to many problems coffee plans are going to face in future!
Thanks Pradeep!
Great Content. Never heard of Liberica before UA-cam Algorithm brought me here!
P.S. The Video is a little bit too quiet, boosting a little bit the levels will help for the next videos
Living in the Philippines, make it extremely easy to find... Infinitely harder to find any liberica that tasted good though.
I personally have a bit of experience with liberica, both tasting and roasting it. Its very unique! Sadly, the coffee isnt very looked after due to the excessively lactic flavours and most liberica I came across are not processed correctly.
We have a liberica coffee plantation in the Philippines. Can you have a session where Dr Shwarz csn mention the proper processing of Liberica
Wow - first time I hear about Liberica - thank you for sharing this. Wonder when I will have the opportunity to taste it. Given the high sugar content I'm thinking that an inoculated fermentation (i.e. intentional addition of a specific yeast and/or bacterial culture) would perhaps be a processing well suited for Liberica?
Yes, we actually talked about lactic fermentation, but it didn't make its way to the final interview
in Philippines i enjoyed kapeng barako which is Liberica... I haven’t found any luck yet of any here in the US.
I've seen Liberica on a local roastery but I never tried it, they named it "The Jackfruit Coffee".
welp, time to try some Liberica.
Liberica mostly tastes like really nice robusta, but with a floral and quite juicy aroma/taste
This variety is hard to source here in the Philippines. But when you find one, the price is steep
Liberica grown at my Country Indonesia.
There's a lot of sellers from lazada and shoppe
Isnt it actually much cheaper than Kalinga Robusta and Sagada Arabica?
Liberica coffee is barako coffee
im currently planting excelsa :)
Try the Liberica from the Philippines. It has a hint of chocolate.
This is what I have observed which makes me love our barako.
Do you have any information about coffeea Abeoukutae ?
感谢博士对马来西亚liberica咖啡豆的推荐和评论，马来西亚半岛南方柔佛州最南端的莆来山，这里的土地水源气候优良，种植超过30多年的liberica咖啡树，所出产的优质的liberica豆子风味特出。精选后的咖啡豆经过厌氧发酵蜜處理日晒后的精品liberica咖啡，风味特殊水果香味和独特的咖啡香醇味道。
This is very interesting. I am in Madagascar and trying to help the local coffee farmer. There is very good arabica Bourbon Pointu. They also have bats that select the ripest beans to eat the fruit of. They spit out the stone and those make good coffee. But my question is I would like to check the coffee rating. Can you explain how I go about that please? Any advice is most welcome.
I tried an anaerobic processed Liberica a few months ago and had the same sentiments that with the right growing conditions and processing, I would not be surprised if could be on par with gesha, pacamara, or other high sensory quality varietals. Did Dr. Schwarz mention whether Liberica would benefit from the same high altitudes and growing conditions as arabica? Or is there merit in keeping it grown in lower altitudes where it has already adapted to?
We didn't talk about that specifically, but as far as I know it needs a lot more sun and heat compared to arabica, so I don't think too high altitudes would work. Also, it comes from a very different habitat in Liberia compared to the highlands of Ethiopia, so I think the optimal conditions would reflect that. But I will make sure to ask Dr Schwarz about it next time.
I'm growing it at 1300-1400 meters altitude at 8°N latitude in Venezuela. It has an EXCELENT flavor.
Can you get Liberica and Exelsia in Montreal?
amazing one, Asser, thank you. So another 3 years till I try some eh?
Apparently, Kapihan in London has some. Maybe some more roasters will pop up here in the comment section :)
@@coffeechronicler crazy! have you tried yourself some outstanding one, over there in south east asia?
In the Philippines, there are lots misinformation about Liberica coffee. Some have been mixed with other beans, since people are quite not aware of its characteristics. Luckily, I have tasted a legit Liberica coffee and it's super good. Tasted like jackfruit and mango
Where can i buy this?
@@aiendail the areas around Taal volcano. Check in Tagaytay or Lipa City in Batangas.
I want to try grow liberica at home but don't know where to get the coffee cherries.
It depend on roast. If liberica is dark roast it has more stronger taste and perfect it with brown sugar combination.. no need to add creamer for black coffee lover
I already proccesed Liberika and Exelsa since 2016. I knew the sugar in it, it is the secret for Honey Proccess and Semi Wine procces ...
Viva Liberica
I had this coffee and i really wish someone like you can try our coffee and together we can try to makes a great coffee beans..
I can provide you the documentary and sample also.. im rudy kamil from jambi - indonesia..
We also have wild luwak here in our farm.. and off course we had the real liberica kopi luwak..
Hi Rudy, I'm interested in hearing more. You are welcome to contact me on mail asser@coffeechronicler.com
Great video, really piqued my interest on Liberica coffee. Ordered 1kg from a Malaysian supplier, will try to roast it and see how it compares with the Arabicas and Robustas I usually roast.
Kindly check 'Samahan ng Magkakape ng Lipa' in the Philippines. Excelsa is liberica as Coffea Liberica var. Dewevrei.
Excelsa is not liberica
@@darfboony824 He's correct. Check it out. Excelsa has been classified as a member of Liberica family.
@@LarryfromPH woah i didn't know that. But the taste is so different from each other.
Is there anyone who can ship some trees of liberica to thailand? I heard that gem forest tried to grow them at high attitude, but they not doing well to give seed and trees.
... wow, he can talk! :-)
Because of your video, I've been experimenting with one of the Liberica offered by House of Kendal this couple of days 😁
Still haven't found a good recipe though.
Definitely will buy another type of Liberica from House of Kendal before end of this month.
Wait Liberica is hard to get? Now I know. There is a staple liberica here in the Philippines that is called Barako and I drink it all the time since it pretty cheap than other varietal. Kinda ironic since liberica is sweeter than arabica but we call it Barako meaning "strong male stud".
Same, I buy Liberica grounds at shoppee 2 kilos at a time. My favorite is excelsa.
Liberica is common here. I'm drinking almost everyday.
Malaysia Boleh !
Just search "Barako coffee" in the internet.
Never dark roast liberica,just medium roast,medium grind,24grams over 350ml water,steep for 6minutes,you will get a sweet &huge body taste,the sweetnest can lasts up to 7hour on your mouth,almost like you eating a miracle berry
I think you are right. I prefer a medium roast barako, the liberica we call in Philippines, over dark roast which is the usual roast that we have for liberica.
I wish more people would be focusing on psychological effects rather than taste, or in addition to taste.
Caffeine is not the only active compound. There are others, probably dozens, and certainly more than usually recognized.
People appreciate mood elevation, to take one example. Coffees could be bred or developed to provide more of that, among other psychological effects.
Another example is L-theanine's psychological effects. Many people have commented on their preference for caffeine plus L-theanine effects over the effects of caffeine alone.
There are many other possibilities as well.
If there were a coffee variety that had mild to moderate euphoria effects over and above anything presently available, it would tick a lot of boxes. Among them would be happier people and customers.
My Company, Amy's Pomeroon Foods Inc., processes Liberica coffee grown in the Pomeroon Region of the Country, Guyana, located on the North Coast of South America. The Country, one of the largest exporters of Typica coffee in the early 19th Century, have seen the industry decline over the years and after the leaf rust disease in the late 19th/early 20th Centuries, turned to Liberica as a replacement due to its resistance to the disease. But although Liberica has been acknowledged as the sweetest and most aromatic coffee in the World, its yield are quite low resulting in high costs. Liberica green bean recovery is only 10% of the cherry weight whereas some Arabica cultivars produce recoveries as high as 40%. Accordingly, commercial interests have stayed away from it and is properly positioned in the market as a specialty product.
I really want to try Liberica. Is it hard to come by?
Yes, it's rare...
You can get it in Indonesia, especially in Kendal, Central Java
www.tokopedia.com/search?q=liberica%20kopi&source=universe&st=product
@@coffeechronicler sorry I commented midway through the premier so hadn't heard the preamble about how rare it is ha!
Depending on the country, it would be rare to find. While Liberica here is pretty common, a huge percentage of our Liberica plantation was devastated by a volcano eruption last year :(
How high Liberia Coffee grows, like Robustas?
Sea level and lots of sun :)
1200 m. a. s. l.
I'm a roaster based in Indonesia....
I know some of processors that offer this liberica coffee from Sumatera and also Java, but hey...how do I roast this variety ? any suggestion
Thanks
Try to contact House of Kendal Coffee at Malaysia
Medium to Dark
Talk about excelsa coffee
Wow, so deep, would like to grow it by my self, but realized I have 0 knowledge about growing something LMAO.
I gave a seed to my friend @alcheng88 and in half a year it grew into a pretty big plant. It should be pretty easy to grow 😄
Sounds like the sour beer of coffee lol