It's called an "in-group" and an "out-group". Your in-group could be a nationality, an ethnicity, a faith, a race, or any combination of those and it has its own rules, traditions, systems of governance and law, culture, and expectations. Your out-group is everyone else. Now, because you share so much more that defines you, your identity, with your in-group, you can establish systems of morality that only include it and those it assimilates. The Martians, in this instance, are human beings who struggled to build colonies on Mars and have sacrificed enormously for a collective goal and that existential struggle for generations of Martians yet unborn is the core of their identity and, to them, sets them apart from the squalid, bureaucrat-controlled, and materialistic humans on earth who do not share their values of defensive militarism and collective struggle. In short, for Martians, Earthers are just not the same and Martians have to look out for themselves above all others just as the Earthers do so, the only real taxation and representation that matters to Martians is their own. It doesn't really matter what happens to Belters or Earthers because they're on the outside and they as outsiders don't give a shit about Mars. This kind of tribalism is endemic to human nature; there's no contradiction between your two points because their moral system only covers _them._ As it should. If you're not focused on looking out for the interests of your group, you're just a bitch to someone else's.
i love how its always mars vs earth...not solar system vs some outer alien invader when the system must band together to beat...but 2 worlds fighthing over 6 main worlds including smaller ones....some things never change...from war of the worlds to the expanse its the same
Just found this. I've consumed a lot of Expanse-related media and am generally a huge fan. Just wanted to say this was incredibly well-done, and anybody that's new to the world of the Expanse that wants to brush up on certain topics - look no further!!! The creators of this did a really good job hitting all of the relevant points, and I assume their other Expanse videos would be great too.
Their terraforming technology would still be highly needed and extremely precious for the colonization of the ring worlds, but Mars itself is losing its meaning - as planet, and as idea. Mars, Earth and the Belt should split these world among each other while providing each their assets: Earth labor force, the Beltas logistics and maintenance, Mars technology.
As the Arboghast approached Venus and discovered a Martian ship shadowing them, it's commander broadcast a challenge, saying their mission of scientific research was permitted under the Venus Accords. I would be quite interested in knowing more of these accords, their provisions, their signatories, their history, etc.
It could be something like the Antarctic Treaty. The UN and Mars could’ve agreed that Venus wasn’t territory of either government and only scientific missions could be conducted there
I have to say I found the ideal of terra forming a planet into a new Eden a truly noble ideal to get behind but if another habitable world was on offer it would become a hard one to sell
I loved how despicable Earthers are to Martians, especially when you first encounter them in S1. "I could never understand your people. Why, when the universe has bestowed so much upon you, do you seem to care so little for it?" - Lopez. Lopez was low-key one of the best-executed characters in the entire series IMO
Stumbled across your channel (Thank you UA-cam algorithm). Like the format. You don't have many videos. Does spreading the word help with making more content, or are you constrained regardless of how many people are watching?
So is Mars becoming independent an actual thing that could happen? Like even if the future government doesn’t dick around and increase taxes or whatever?
it seems likely. efforts are being made. fatalities are on planet because of a virus. maby more than ever, humanity is looking at colonisation. what ms sarah bellum said, is the likely course.
Not until after it has grown enough to sustain a country-sized permanent population. It needs to be capable of sustaining itself indefinitely without assistance from Earth before it can be truly independent.
Well the MCRN is a naval organisation so it would either be a grand admiral of some kind or the Martian PM, similar to how the US President technically runs all military organisations.
Commas are good. It’s easier to read 900,000,000 than it is to read 900000000. I have to look closely to figure out if that’s 9 billion or 900 million. Commas prevent confusion. Commas are used in numbers, specifically big numbers.
Is etnically diverse. The way of doing politics and their military doctrines felt chinese or soviet. In season 4 and 5 they have a more post soviet Russia situation
It’s somewhat misleading to suggest that prior to the opening of the Ring Gates and the beginning of the extra-Solar Era, the Mars Congressional Republic had “the strongest economy in the Sol System” and “virtually no unemployment.” As Bobbie Draper herself marvels when she first visits Earth and explores outside the walls of the UN Compound in *CALIBAN’S WAR*, the planetary polity over which the UN presides is sophisticated, cosmopolitan, artistic, philosophical, and socially complex to a degree far beyond anything Mars could ever even dream of, and the UN’s Earth population of 33 billion citizens made the 4-5 billion citizens of the MCR look “like a cultural backwater.” Mars had “virtually no unemployment” bc 1) it lacked a hospitable planetary environment and created massive public works projects in its terraforming program, 2) the MCR had *compulsory* military service for all citizens, 3) even more than Earth, Mars brutally exploited the Belt for resources to be used in its terraforming project, and 4) Mars had a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller population to take care of than the UN did.
@@frankg2790 that, and those who go to mars will be the very best of humanity. They will resent being held back by the sprawling masses on earth. This is somewhat what happens in the show too, as the MCR hate earthers for their lack of industriousness.
Excellent video, but the narrator has ABSOLUTELY BOTCHED the word "diplomacy". Looking at overall quality, I can't help but wonder, just how did _that_ even make it into the video?
I like how this video spoils the expanse, without spoiling the expanse.
Same. I was like "hey, Avasarala, Bobbie or Holden say something about it" but they don't openly say what "it" is.
You almost sound laconic. Sorry Laconic or Laconian.....
I don't know, 4:46 is cutting it very close :P
Martians:"no taxation without representation!! "
Also Martians :"lmao belter ships go boom if they don't give us their resuces "
This comment is perfect
It's called an "in-group" and an "out-group". Your in-group could be a nationality, an ethnicity, a faith, a race, or any combination of those and it has its own rules, traditions, systems of governance and law, culture, and expectations. Your out-group is everyone else. Now, because you share so much more that defines you, your identity, with your in-group, you can establish systems of morality that only include it and those it assimilates.
The Martians, in this instance, are human beings who struggled to build colonies on Mars and have sacrificed enormously for a collective goal and that existential struggle for generations of Martians yet unborn is the core of their identity and, to them, sets them apart from the squalid, bureaucrat-controlled, and materialistic humans on earth who do not share their values of defensive militarism and collective struggle.
In short, for Martians, Earthers are just not the same and Martians have to look out for themselves above all others just as the Earthers do so, the only real taxation and representation that matters to Martians is their own. It doesn't really matter what happens to Belters or Earthers because they're on the outside and they as outsiders don't give a shit about Mars.
This kind of tribalism is endemic to human nature; there's no contradiction between your two points because their moral system only covers _them._ As it should. If you're not focused on looking out for the interests of your group, you're just a bitch to someone else's.
Love me some cheap belter poon
So... The US?
@@vitmartobby5644 the US but with national pride and unity and a lot less gay
Insane quality on the video! This deserves so much more views. Love to see Expanse content.
A shame to see this gets so little love, it was amazing and I do hope to see more in the future.
4:46
Holden: "Uhh, sorry about that."
10/10 video. Absolutely awesome
i love how its always mars vs earth...not solar system vs some outer alien invader when the system must band together to beat...but 2 worlds fighthing over 6 main worlds including smaller ones....some things never change...from war of the worlds to the expanse its the same
Excellent work! Now since you’ve covered Mars, it would only make sense to cover its rival the UN, right…? *Nudge nudge wink wink*
Earth comes first...
@@patrickziesmer9474 *Must Come First
go an den bossmang
Amos: That flag need some modification
gorrammit jane,. i mean amos
Omg no
Absolutely phenomenal stuff from this channel!
Good work! This channel needs more views and subs.
Nicely done.
This video is just phenomenal. Information, graphics, everything perfectly done.
Just found this. I've consumed a lot of Expanse-related media and am generally a huge fan. Just wanted to say this was incredibly well-done, and anybody that's new to the world of the Expanse that wants to brush up on certain topics - look no further!!! The creators of this did a really good job hitting all of the relevant points, and I assume their other Expanse videos would be great too.
Legit one of the best UA-camrs
Damm, this is even better than Templin Institute !
dude i like both and was pleasantly surprised
This is a great channel. It’s an educational infographics without the bombast.
This is gold. Keep up the good work.
Great video, thank you!
This was phenomenal!
Great video, thank you for your efforts.
The mcrn flag should be used as the official flag of mars in real life too.
Don't give ideia to that red morons...
Who are we ? MMC!!!! I can’t hear you!!!! MMC!!!!!
@@abbaszaidi8371 *laughs in Laconian*
@@arthurloginov4722 laughs in Terran
One thing the expanse have not considered with martians is that they would be tall and skinny as hell
Love all of these videos
for the love of all that is holy, make more videos
Keep up the amazing work!
Just discovered this gem of a show!
Their terraforming technology would still be highly needed and extremely precious for the colonization of the ring worlds, but Mars itself is losing its meaning - as planet, and as idea. Mars, Earth and the Belt should split these world among each other while providing each their assets: Earth labor force, the Beltas logistics and maintenance, Mars technology.
As the Arboghast approached Venus and discovered a Martian ship shadowing them, it's commander broadcast a challenge, saying their mission of scientific research was permitted under the Venus Accords. I would be quite interested in knowing more of these accords, their provisions, their signatories, their history, etc.
It could be something like the Antarctic Treaty. The UN and Mars could’ve agreed that Venus wasn’t territory of either government and only scientific missions could be conducted there
I thought so too, but it could come apart quickly.
Endure in some form? Gosh, what a concept.
Awesome. Please do one for the OPA!
Welcome to Laconia.
That’s the better mars
I just got an email about a job offer on Laconia, but I can't find it on any Martian maps. Somebody pulling my leg?
Brilliant. That’s the 24th century version of an email from a Nigerian Prince in the 21st century. Must be fake. Surely.....?
hahaha. just gottit
laconia gonna be lit
Sure you want to know? Once you're in, you're IN.
@@jaffarebellion292 INDEED
I have to say I found the ideal of terra forming a planet into a new Eden a truly noble ideal to get behind but if another habitable world was on offer it would become a hard one to sell
I loved how despicable Earthers are to Martians, especially when you first encounter them in S1. "I could never understand your people. Why, when the universe has bestowed so much upon you, do you seem to care so little for it?" - Lopez. Lopez was low-key one of the best-executed characters in the entire series IMO
congratz on 1k subs
Very well put together!
Love this video!
There is absolutley no foreshadowing here at all
This is really freaking cool!
0:17 the 21st century means the 2000s, not the 2100s like it says in the graphic on screen right
What about 2213 and 2014 as key dates in Martian Timeline and Goverment formation?
Good Video!
A very enjoyable video.
I'm always confused as to which belt facilities are Martian and which ones are Terran.
very cool video thanks
Total Recall...
That was a great video 👏🏾
Stumbled across your channel (Thank you UA-cam algorithm). Like the format.
You don't have many videos. Does spreading the word help with making more content, or are you constrained regardless of how many people are watching?
What happened to this channel? Really dig your art style and narration.
So is Mars becoming independent an actual thing that could happen? Like even if the future government doesn’t dick around and increase taxes or whatever?
it seems likely. efforts are being made. fatalities are on planet because of a virus. maby more than ever, humanity is looking at colonisation. what ms sarah bellum said, is the likely course.
@@willy-johndejager6810 no I mean like revolutionary war 2 electric boogaloo
Not until after it has grown enough to sustain a country-sized permanent population. It needs to be capable of sustaining itself indefinitely without assistance from Earth before it can be truly independent.
Who heads the MCRN?
Well the MCRN is a naval organisation so it would either be a grand admiral of some kind or the Martian PM, similar to how the US President technically runs all military organisations.
9 billion population?
They all have 10+ kids. Government supports this to compete with earth and reach their goal faster
Excuse me ????
fr💀
Is this real ?
Commas are good. It’s easier to read 900,000,000 than it is to read 900000000. I have to look closely to figure out if that’s 9 billion or 900 million. Commas prevent confusion. Commas are used in numbers, specifically big numbers.
@:20 22nd century.
This is blowing my mind how there are people on mars and. I’m on earth
MCR has a chinese vibe thorought the show
chinice ? were the lock more like mix of french and german
Is etnically diverse. The way of doing politics and their military doctrines felt chinese or soviet.
In season 4 and 5 they have a more post soviet Russia situation
Can’t get to the moon cause of the van allen belt but we getting to mars like it ain’t no problem. Lol. Sure bro.
I wanna know somebody had to of did acid in space 🚀
1:38 if the ships did that they would just decelerate
It’s somewhat misleading to suggest that prior to the opening of the Ring Gates and the beginning of the extra-Solar Era, the Mars Congressional Republic had “the strongest economy in the Sol System” and “virtually no unemployment.” As Bobbie Draper herself marvels when she first visits Earth and explores outside the walls of the UN Compound in *CALIBAN’S WAR*, the planetary polity over which the UN presides is sophisticated, cosmopolitan, artistic, philosophical, and socially complex to a degree far beyond anything Mars could ever even dream of, and the UN’s Earth population of 33 billion citizens made the 4-5 billion citizens of the MCR look “like a cultural backwater.” Mars had “virtually no unemployment” bc 1) it lacked a hospitable planetary environment and created massive public works projects in its terraforming program, 2) the MCR had *compulsory* military service for all citizens, 3) even more than Earth, Mars brutally exploited the Belt for resources to be used in its terraforming project, and 4) Mars had a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller population to take care of than the UN did.
AnCap Mars?😳
This is exactly why SpaceX should the first to Mars, and not NASA/u.s. Govt.....
Doesn't matter. The Frontier Spirit, the desire for independence, is an important part of human nature.
@@frankg2790 that, and those who go to mars will be the very best of humanity. They will resent being held back by the sprawling masses on earth. This is somewhat what happens in the show too, as the MCR hate earthers for their lack of industriousness.
This is Inyalowda propaganda you are fake news!
Excellent video, but the narrator has ABSOLUTELY BOTCHED the word "diplomacy". Looking at overall quality, I can't help but wonder, just how did _that_ even make it into the video?