So true. There are literally thousands of videos about how to get a perfect tone and how you need expensive amps and pedals… but those tones don’t mean sh&t in a live situation.
Brilliant stuff. I thought the first part was pretty much along the lines of your "amp in the room" tips, which was interesting. I'd probably never bother with the pick attack thing (I use fingers if I want soft), but I'm definitely going to play with that 1K boost idea. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome video on quick eq just purchased fractal and live band player…leaving the 100 watt tube head Satriani head. Love it but sick of hauling gear touring
Great tips. Always been a fan of the 1k boost! Question: I’ve done my rolloffs on the actual cab (the page where you see what IR you’re using) rather than the preamp in the cab block. What’s preferable about doing it on the preamp page? For TSO my hi rolloff is about 5.2K by the way. Thanks.
From the Forum: the low and high cuts in the cab block affect the individual IRs in each slot, so you can keep them all wide open or use the frequency range you want for each IR. For instance, you can make a 57-121 mix and clean up the 121’s low end without taking away from from the 57, or if you like the natural top end of the 121 but want to tame the 57 a bit, lower the high cut on the 57. It’s kinda like EQ’ing individual mic channels on a console. The low and high cut on the preamp page is the master cut that will impact your whole IR mix. forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/fm3-low-high-cut-vs-preamp-section-filters-low-high.163895/#post-1966452
Great video and topic! I have had struggles with modelers being able to sit in a live band mix. I find that when doing preset leveling, a lot of times gainy driven tones get swallowed up in the mix and sometimes I can barely hear myself. Turning up the volume is the quick fix but ending up in a volume war with other instruments is not a great outcome. The EQ balancing is really key and it is not always super intuitive how to EQ your sound so it sticks out without oppressive volume. Definitely a fine art.
Awesome stuff right there!!! I had a few questions, were you using the same pickup, or were you using the back PU, and then switching to the front PU, also being a huge Neal Schon fan, do you have any insight as to how he has his fractal setup as far as EQ, amps that he uses and signal chain all inside the Fractal. Thanks for sharing these vids they are great!!!
Depending on the amp, I usually set my cab hi/low at 100 & between 5500-7000. Usually at 6000…..great (common sense to me) advice everyone should hear.
Is there an RTA in the fm9? I can't seem to find one but I did add A peq setting Leon Todduses.If you put his values in you get a nice curve.Thanks for the input eq and low cut changes especially in cab blocks,Another setting I find useful in the cab locks is the proximity setting
Man, this video is unbelievably helpful. I got my lead patch to POP with a PEQ spike - 2800 Hz at just 1.8 dB - and it's going to be permanent. The cab hi and lo-cuts made a massive difference for me, too, as I can use my GEQ blocks far more subtly. Thanks a lot!
Hey Coop. I didnt want to ask but noticed the low and high cut in the amp block on the page your showing us on the Input EQ gain. Should we stay away from that and just concentrate on the ones in the Cab Block? As mentioned in tip #1? My inquisitive side made me wonder what the difference might be to play with these, but my semi-intelligent side doesn't want to go down a rabbit hole if I dont need to. Ha I've got my hands full as it is. Thanks for all the help. -Muntsy Boston Great stuff as always man!
Im using an fm3 or an atomic amplifier...im going out stereo..right to a mixer channel, and left to another mixer channel...do i keep each channel at center or pan them a bit?...the mixer is running stereo out to the front end speakers...do i run each of the two mixer channels as mono or stereo?...and what about panning...do i keep the delays centered in the modellers and then pan them a bit on the mixer?... mostly what i want to know is...do i run each mixer guutar channel as mono or stereo?
This is a great video. But I use a Powerstage through a cab while playing on stage. And I keep the cab turned off..any tips for that apart from toggling my bass, mid and treb EQ on the power stage?
Using the fm3 at home with frfr speakers. Is it recommended to eq with the global eq to get it to sound right through the speakers.? Having a lot of trouble getting several even very basic amp cab and drive pedal sounds to not get muddy and have a blanket over the speaker effect and generally poor tone
Hi Cooper help me out pls. I have a Fractal FM9. I’ve dialed in and tweaked my tones using a headset. They sound heavenly in the headset. But when I played live, the Drive and Distortion tone sounded plasticky crackling trash in FOH/PA. It also gave out shrilly feedback FOH. How do I make my headset tones tweaked in my home, sound as awesome live via FOH? FOH: JBL PRX812 12inch, Yamaha DXR12 Headset: Bose Quiet Comfort 35
Really good stuff. Also shows how easily you can make a good PA speaker work as a live monitor/ cab vs spending 💰💰 on all of the FRFR guitar-specific speaker hype.
Anyone have any EQ setting or settings in general tips for loudness with a FM3 and a Redsound MF10/m ? It’s pretty damn loud but as soon as my band kicks I can’t hear a single thing and neither can anyone else, any ideas? Tones are fine it’s just the volume?
Hi @Cooper Carter - this was asked below but not answered. Would you suggest the amp AND the cab block changes or just one or the other? FYI - I noticed in the latest beta - the Bassguy model, the bottom is crazy boomy....this seems to help a lot.
I am looking upgrade my GT1000- to the FM3. I have several questions. 1. how much user memory for patches is available? I like to make a custom a patch for each song I perform and the let the laptop control the patches per command code for each patch. In other words if I have 150 songs in my performance catalog I want to have patches for each song. 2. Are all the FM3 adjustments/edits also available as midi control codes?
Have any advice on how to make space for 2 guitars? I've done a lot of what's mentioned here but I haven't seen much real world advice for 2 guitars. The way I currently handle it, with a very Metallica-ish tone, is to use the Mark 5 band eq and boost my tone's 240 by .5 - 1 (as I play Hetfield's part) and my lead's 2200 by the same amount, even when he's doubling the rhythm parts. I don't know if that's "the right" way to do it...just seemed to make the most sense at the time.
So true. There are literally thousands of videos about how to get a perfect tone and how you need expensive amps and pedals… but those tones don’t mean sh&t in a live situation.
The last PEQ adjustments to accentuate or de-emphasize pick attack was a good tip. Thanks!!
This is a BRILLIANT video. Absolutely invaluable info for setting your tone in all situations. Great work Cooper 👍
GOLD! Thanks Cooper!
Very useful. I am going to try this tips tomorrow in my gig. Thanks man
Excellent video. It confirms some of my observations. And great EQ tips. 🎉
VERY useful tips Cooper!! Thank you!
Brilliant stuff. I thought the first part was pretty much along the lines of your "amp in the room" tips, which was interesting. I'd probably never bother with the pick attack thing (I use fingers if I want soft), but I'm definitely going to play with that 1K boost idea. Thanks for sharing!
That was valuable and definitely saving the link for future reference. Thank you.
KEY stuff thank you Cooper!!
Really good stuff! Thanks much
Awesome video on quick eq just purchased fractal and live band player…leaving the 100 watt tube head Satriani head. Love it but sick of hauling gear touring
Excellent tutorial. Exactly what I was looking for. Continue to make these type of tutorials.
Thanks a lot for the great live EQ tips. I learned so much from a Helix user here! ✨
Brilliant. Thanks Cooper.
Great tips thank you!
Thank you Cooper, another brilliant video.
Still learning so much after 5 years using Fractal products
Same here, there's just so much to these fabulous units
Absolutely great! I had just posted a help request in the Fractal forum yesterday...Thank you Sir!!
Merci Cooper, super !
Great tips. Always been a fan of the 1k boost! Question: I’ve done my rolloffs on the actual cab (the page where you see what IR you’re using) rather than the preamp in the cab block. What’s preferable about doing it on the preamp page? For TSO my hi rolloff is about 5.2K by the way. Thanks.
From the Forum: the low and high cuts in the cab block affect the individual IRs in each slot, so you can keep them all wide open or use the frequency range you want for each IR. For instance, you can make a 57-121 mix and clean up the 121’s low end without taking away from from the 57, or if you like the natural top end of the 121 but want to tame the 57 a bit, lower the high cut on the 57. It’s kinda like EQ’ing individual mic channels on a console.
The low and high cut on the preamp page is the master cut that will impact your whole IR mix.
forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/fm3-low-high-cut-vs-preamp-section-filters-low-high.163895/#post-1966452
This is great Cooper, that second tip is something I'd never heard before - Really going to explore that idea
Great video and topic! I have had struggles with modelers being able to sit in a live band mix. I find that when doing preset leveling, a lot of times gainy driven tones get swallowed up in the mix and sometimes I can barely hear myself. Turning up the volume is the quick fix but ending up in a volume war with other instruments is not a great outcome. The EQ balancing is really key and it is not always super intuitive how to EQ your sound so it sticks out without oppressive volume. Definitely a fine art.
This is gold!
It’s going to take awhile to get this down when I finally do get my FM9. Great to see all these knowledgeable vids!
Great tips. Thanks man.
Why we set the high and low-cut in the CAP-Section and not in the Output or the Amp-Section?
Awesome stuff right there!!! I had a few questions, were you using the same pickup, or were you using the back PU, and then switching to the front PU, also being a huge Neal Schon fan, do you have any insight as to how he has his fractal setup as far as EQ, amps that he uses and signal chain all inside the Fractal. Thanks for sharing these vids they are great!!!
Depending on the amp, I usually set my cab hi/low at 100 & between 5500-7000. Usually at 6000…..great (common sense to me) advice everyone should hear.
Is there an RTA in the fm9? I can't seem to find one but I did add A peq setting Leon Todduses.If you put his values in you get a nice curve.Thanks for the input eq and low cut changes especially in cab blocks,Another setting I find useful in the cab locks is the proximity setting
Excellent video! Is it possible to apply these concepts to other types of multi-effects as well?
Very informative great tips man.
Awesome!
GREAT!
What a great video Cooper, just what i needed. When i get the time to study it, i will definitely subscribe to your AxeFx 3 masterclass.
I love this! Especially 1 and 2. Would you do both or either or?
How about tips for dialing in live tones for people who dont have super high-level studio monitors.
This applies for everyone lmfao
Great vid man & Very helpful, Thanks for sharing 🤘🏼
awesome! i am new to gigging fm3 and this will help a ton! thx
Man, this video is unbelievably helpful. I got my lead patch to POP with a PEQ spike - 2800 Hz at just 1.8 dB - and it's going to be permanent. The cab hi and lo-cuts made a massive difference for me, too, as I can use my GEQ blocks far more subtly. Thanks a lot!
Output EQ is also an amazing trick to poke out live!
Great tips. What is the difference if I set Low and Hi Cut of the Cabinet on the Cab page or the Preamp page? Is there a difference?
Super useful
you would think bad nasal-y sound with quite a bit of mid end would suck but it would sit and cut better in a mix especially in a live setting
Thank you.
That 2.8Khz bumped 3dB added life to my dead tone. Thanks a million! Awesome tips.
Hey Coop. I didnt want to ask but noticed the low and high cut in the amp block on the page your showing us on the Input EQ gain. Should we stay away from that and just concentrate on the ones in the Cab Block? As mentioned in tip #1? My inquisitive side made me wonder what the difference might be to play with these, but my semi-intelligent side doesn't want to go down a rabbit hole if I dont need to. Ha
I've got my hands full as it is.
Thanks for all the help.
-Muntsy
Boston
Great stuff as always man!
Need to speak with you personally concerning a patch please
buenísimo 👏
Incredibly useful thanks! Are you doing anything different about the way the patch is EQ’d in general since it’s intended as a live/high volume patch?
Great vid... any reasons not to use global eq?
Cooper I’m needing a little assistance on the Foot switch preset settings. And Set list set up . Who should I contact?
Thanks much
Im using an fm3 or an atomic amplifier...im going out stereo..right to a mixer channel, and left to another mixer channel...do i keep each channel at center or pan them a bit?...the mixer is running stereo out to the front end speakers...do i run each of the two mixer channels as mono or stereo?...and what about panning...do i keep the delays centered in the modellers and then pan them a bit on the mixer?... mostly what i want to know is...do i run each mixer guutar channel as mono or stereo?
This is a great video. But I use a Powerstage through a cab while playing on stage. And I keep the cab turned off..any tips for that apart from toggling my bass, mid and treb EQ on the power stage?
Just use a regular eq block instead
Using the fm3 at home with frfr speakers. Is it recommended to eq with the global eq to get it to sound right through the speakers.? Having a lot of trouble getting several even very basic amp cab and drive pedal sounds to not get muddy and have a blanket over the speaker effect and generally poor tone
I noticed he did the high and low cuts in the Cab Preamp page. I have been doing this on the Cab main page. What is the difference, if any?
I think it's like a Master EQ for the cab block, whereas the other pages are specific to each IR
Can you show the katana 1x12 100 watt combo as a power amp cab with the fractal?
Hi Cooper help me out pls. I have a Fractal FM9. I’ve dialed in and tweaked my tones using a headset. They sound heavenly in the headset. But when I played live, the Drive and Distortion tone sounded plasticky crackling trash in FOH/PA. It also gave out shrilly feedback FOH. How do I make my headset tones tweaked in my home, sound as awesome live via FOH?
FOH: JBL PRX812 12inch, Yamaha DXR12
Headset: Bose Quiet Comfort 35
Follow this! My Ax8 and now FM9 always sound fantastic in headphones but I struggle to translate them trough our PA system. Have you gotten closer?
Put on the cab sim in the main settings of the FM9, in many its off by default. Search for the youtube video "I finally cracked the Fractal FM3"..
Really good stuff. Also shows how easily you can make a good PA speaker work as a live monitor/ cab vs spending 💰💰 on all of the FRFR guitar-specific speaker hype.
Can you show some control code setups for external daw for the FM3?
Anyone have any EQ setting or settings in general tips for loudness with a FM3 and a Redsound MF10/m ? It’s pretty damn loud but as soon as my band kicks I can’t hear a single thing and neither can anyone else, any ideas? Tones are fine it’s just the volume?
Why the preamp tab, you can do it on the Cab tab too right? Any advantage?
Are you using any volume boosts for leads or anything like that
any tips for a AX8? I love mine but I still struggle to get to sound more amp like
Hi @Cooper Carter - this was asked below but not answered. Would you suggest the amp AND the cab block changes or just one or the other? FYI - I noticed in the latest beta - the Bassguy model, the bottom is crazy boomy....this seems to help a lot.
What're your FRFR speakers here?
I am looking upgrade my GT1000- to the FM3. I have several questions. 1. how much user memory for patches is available? I like to make a custom a patch for each song I perform and the let the laptop control the patches per command code for each patch. In other words if I have 150 songs in my performance catalog I want to have patches for each song. 2. Are all the FM3 adjustments/edits also available as midi control codes?
Have any advice on how to make space for 2 guitars? I've done a lot of what's mentioned here but I haven't seen much real world advice for 2 guitars. The way I currently handle it, with a very Metallica-ish tone, is to use the Mark 5 band eq and boost my tone's 240 by .5 - 1 (as I play Hetfield's part) and my lead's 2200 by the same amount, even when he's doubling the rhythm parts.
I don't know if that's "the right" way to do it...just seemed to make the most sense at the time.
Nice.
Thanks for the great info. This will definitely help me get my stage mix sorted.
Thanks for the video. You are a hero!
RTA is only for AXE FX , not for FM9 User 😞
If you are going to EQ that much, you can do it all in PEQ instead of 3 different places. Especially since he put right after the cab.
You are an animal tone wizard!!!
just crank a twin, problem solved :)
4 tips: turn off the reverb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you. Very useful!