I bought the CHEAPEST tools on Amazon
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Buying the cheapest woodworking tools on Amazon. Let's find out if they're any good. For 10% off your first purchase, go to: squarespace.com...
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Tools Used (Amazon affiliate links)
Wen Circular Saw: amzn.to/3MarD7t
Dewalt Circular Saw: amzn.to/3M6ttX1
Drill: amzn.to/46Y04Gt
Black & Decker Jig Saw: amzn.to/3FqLZpf
Bosch Jig Saw: amzn.to/45Fz8tV
Cheap Japanese Pull Saw: amzn.to/47hiVfZ
My Good Pull Saw: amzn.to/3rRCqg1
General Wood Saw: amzn.to/3Qpzxw5
Tape Measure: amzn.to/3QnRco7
Combination Square: amzn.to/3M6Irfy
Corner Clamps: amzn.to/3Q24AwN
Drill Bits: amzn.to/4054Waw
F-Style Clamps: amzn.to/3tJ8AuI
Thin Rip Jig: amzn.to/3MdCsps
Router Bit Set: amzn.to/46GDRwQ
Cheap Router: amzn.to/48YOuMZ
Dewalt Router: amzn.to/3QrKD42
Sander: amzn.to/3QqIXaL
You should do this all again with all the same tools from Harbor Freight and see how the Harbor stacks up.
It's been done. They're pretty good. Most Bauer stuff is just under your Ryobi prosumer levels stuff
Part of the issue is harbor freight has many quality levels in their various branded lines. Amazon is similar but coming from many companies and brands even more diversity.
@@fixerupperer I'd say stick with the Bauer line and you'll be fine I know some mechanics who like the Bauer stuff
I just learned a new word. Pro Sumer. Every evolving language. I like that one
@@milkywayan2232Den Of Tools Dictionary
Quick history lesson. Black and decker bought dewalt in early 60’s. Dewalt invented the radial arm saw, and only made radial arm saws. In the mid 90’s, black and decker industrial line of tools( black and gray, not orange)were great trade quality tools. But because suffering from late 70’s home owner black and decker tools stigma, they changed their line to yellow dewalt. It was a branding PR excercise( not that’s necessarily bad thing.)they also owned Elu( Swiss made tools, routers jigsaws, biscuit jointer, grinders) so early dewalt tools were all black and decker industrial, or Elu, just with a yellow case and name dewalt. Dewalt tools are great tools, not because the name, but because of designs they came from 2 different companies. The original dewalt company made legendary radial arm saws, I have a 1952, and 59 version. Black decker sold to dewalt RAS design to THe Original Saw Company. American company that stills makes industrial quality radial arm saws, that look identical to dewalt radial arm saw design from the 1940’s
Yes. I used many of the black and decker industrial series tools and still think them superior to the dewalt follow ups
The original dewalt radial arm saws truly legendary
DeWalt not so much but Elu was legendary in Europe.
i remember the black and grey wildcat angle grinders. they were a beast and you could replace the bearings in the angle head plus they had massive double brushes on the motor. the dewalt grinders the bearings are not replaceable by themselves. you end up having to replace the whole spindle cartridge with the bearing, gear and shaft. the gear and shaft are welded together so no way to remove the bearing.
True story and a true zombie brand. The den of tools has a great video about this but yeah..... Dewalt is quite literally black and decker just with a yellow jacket. Dewalt as a original company does not exist.
The only Elu tools I've owned (a circular saw and a drill) were made in England (dates them as it said England not UK or GB) and it was a German company that I'm assuming manufacturered throughout Europe. Agreed that Black and Decker while they had capable tools, there were reliability issues and the brand suffered because of it. Since their merger with Stanley Works though, there have been lots of Stanley branded power tools that often look very similar to DeWalt ones.
I have some near 50 year old Black and Decker drills which seem to have so much more power than the modern cheap ones and are still going well. They though don't have a hammer function or any soft start/trigger speed control so they are used mostly for mixing or drilling into larger wood pieces.
Thank you for your financial sacrifices for the woodworking community
I am excited for your budget friendly shop and super curious about the project you're planning with these tools in mind. Love this form of content, David.
Get yourself a WEN track saw…. Your going to need it for your budget shop:) my 14” bandsaw is also a WEN , with a custom carbide blade it’s a beast:) make something!
I saw an 8" WEN bench top drill press at Goodwill and hesitated because it seemed sketchy. But I passed it up to get a larger clearance in the future when I set up my shop space. Plus they wanted like $70 for it and I was like...brand new with a warranty at Home Depot I could pay $105.
Didn't realize wen did a band saw. And you say the track saw is actually good?
I bought the WEN track saw at Home Depot and it’s a great saw for as much as I need a track saw.
@@mattkent655 yep I have both , and use them all of the time
@@stretch3736 I am in the market for a track saw. I have the Kreg Rip Cut guide and it works ok, but it can get awkward. To be fair, I used it back before I was in carpentry school.
Wen is an old old company and directly responsible for the development of power tools as a whole, helping to develop the motor system. I dunno how more people haven't heard of the company
Wen has never been a well-known name in the US market, but you are correct and they still make decent tools to this day. Their scroll saw is affordable and beats others that cost 3x the price.
Been around tools all my life. I am 39, this is first I've heard of them
In the US it's all about the yellow, red, and blue. You never hear much about others. Kinda like most mechanics only know about snapon or matco.
I love Wen. I have many of their tools, including the wood lathe, and love it.
I'm in the US and have been using WEN for a long time. Budget friendly and gets the Job done. I don't have over 50K to spend on Tools like this guy. WEN works well for us DIY folks
Also, the clamps coming apart can be a good thing. You can then flip them around and use them to push apart like a jack instead of push together.
Yes, but they still need a stop. The ones I have come with a plastic peg that fits snugly through a hole in the frame to prevent the jaw falling off the end. However, you can remove the peg and turn the jaw around if you want in order to push instead of pull.
1st Love the "steam" coming off the mug @ 2:25. Great Job Dan!
2nd, WEN tools are surprisingly good. I have a couple.
I noticed the same thing! It looked a bit fake though.
First thought was "is that fake steam?" cut to next scene, no steam. I just ordered one of the older Yeti rambler 10oz lowballs to attempt a mug similar to the video he made that one in.
Per your previous suggestions, I always buy a couple more F clamps whenever I walk into my HF store. For me, it's the nice chunky handles they have. Far superior grip to the tiny wood handles on my Irwin clamps. As for the rest, I've already got my budget tools and have been slowly upgrading to better quality. But this is a good demonstration for what is out there and good enough to start working. Would also recommend for bigger tools looking for them 2nd or 3rd hand from garage and estate sales and auctions. Thanks for sharing!
I love that you're doing this. Not only cheap tools but hand held power tools seem to get at least left behind and often disparaged.
Entry level budget brands can often be quite good if you get ones made early in the production life. Later versions of the same model can be vastly inferior as moulds, jigs, dies used in production get worn. Materials are substituted and parts get subcontracted to reduce costs. And likely dozens of other factors
That’s actually a good point.
Never thought about this, but it totally makes sense. Thanks for the info.
Great vid, as always! My WEN drill press is coming up on 8 years of use. It's needed some attention a few times to keep the variable speed pulley working smoothly...but it's still working. I also have the WEN spindle sander. Overall I'm not disappointed with their tools.
Love the iron eagle poster popping up when talking about Tom cruise lol definitely a childhood favorite movie.
From a friend who used to work for one of the mentioned brands here, how some of the product line worked, was if they needed a cheap Snow blower, they would at a chinese tradeshow go and find a supplier, ask them to send them some product samples with the correct color and if they could match the color, it would be in the stores to prep you for the winter and you probably never see that specific product model again.
24:40 YUP Be realistic on your expectations. You can easily get started making simple projects with cheap tools and then upgrade the ones you use the most. Steve Ramsey is the king of great projects around the house with minimal tools that do not cost an arm and a leg. Only a leg! !! !!!
Thank you for making burst out with laughter at the "where the butthole would be" part.
Love the few Wen tools I have. Would love to see a deep dive into their cordless tools from drills to sanders and the cordless track saws. No one has the balls to go that deep. They all hover around just the corded track saw and the thickness planer. But they might have a deep bench for the hobbyist/diy-er.
I would never in my life buy into a cheap cordless ecosystem.. You never know how long they will keep the batteries etc in stock since most of the time its just relabeled wholesale china tools..
I have been pleased with the Wen, corded track saw i purchased knowing it wouldnt hold up if i was using it in the trade. Some of the woodworking magazines have started including Wen in the mix when they do tool reviews.
First video I´ve seen from this channel
Great energy, great sense of humour, not shitting on cheap stuff.
1+ follower and I can´t wait to binge watch more videos of yours
Love how the real talk chair costs 10 times as much as the tool collection 😅
don't tell anybody but it's an imitation chair.
Ive had that black and decker jigsaw for three/four years now. Mines tough as nails. Been used and abused and never misses a beat
I actually own one of those cheapazz sets of router bits and still use them. I bought them about a decade ago. I don't mount them in the router table or use them in my CNC mill, but I use them in the handheld routers (DeWalt plunge, Bosch fixed) regularly. They're easy to sharpen and since I don't use them constantly, they do fine.
This video is a great example of why I am not afraid to buy the cheap Harbor Freight tools for one or two job uses. Most of these are basic, mechanical devices and the biggest concern is going to be efficiency and durability.
WEN products are actually pretty good quality for the price. I have multiple WEN products that are going strong.
Same. The Wen track saw is really good for the price.
When I had my shop, I had a buttload of WEN tools (planer, drill press, jointer even a stool) and they were solid tools. Highly recommend.
I give this video 5 stars.
Issue I've had with bits like that is the way they are attached, its like the hex part is crimped on, but once it breaks I just have to take it off and use it like a smooth bit.
Entertaining vid as always! In all fairness to the wen palm sander, at 26:08 it looks like a dust extraction adapter falls out of the packaging on the floor when you remove the sander from the box…..the palm sander is asking for a bump in score lol😂
I caught that as well. He was looking up at the camera when pulling it out. He'll find it when he sweeps under his bench. 😆
He did find ut at the end. He put that just at the last second of the video.
@@Dragonited Oh shoot. I hit stop when he gave his normal outro, I did not see that. Lol
For some reason I appreciate the added steam from the coffee mug lol
On tape measurers, I personally like the Bauer (Harbor Freight). It has a reverse stop, so when you extend it isn't running back or need to hold while getting more length. Just push the button to retract.
@2:25 the little added steam effect. I like the touch 😉
Oh, tape measures. Nothing beats my old chrome Stanley. It's withstood the test of time. I now have both 16' and 25' varieties in my toolbox.
CG coffee steam?!?! I love the attention to detail! Kudos to Daniel! 😂😂😂
I am a retired master carpenter, I agree with most of what you said and what star ranking you gave, on a good tape measure, I go Craftsman & Stanley (25 foot) I have used both for over 40 years.. When I retired, the only battery tool was a drill that was worthless in the field.. phonematic air guns were just gaining popularity.. My home shop was hand tools a few power a few air and no battery..
I recently upgraded my whole shop to all latest top shelf tooling, a couple CNC tables, I kept all my old school hand tools, I have over a dozen different cordless tools, Mostly DeWalt & Milwaukee, Lots of other miscellaneous tools, I am lucky to have a massive shop, from carpentry to metal working.. I wish I could do what I could 20 & 30 years ago, but my grandchildren and great grandchildren take full advantage of having a place to learn and have fun building..
When you mentioned Tom Cruise and cut in a poster for Iron Eagle was pure gold! That movie was so bad I almost couldn’t finish it, and then hated myself for not turning it off.
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I have never been let down by Wen. I have freequently lured in by low prices on something I will never use, but never been disappointed.
Well done Dan! I like Wen tools myself as they are reasonably priced & good quality. Can't wait to see what you build with all of those cheap tools! 👍👍🔨🔨
I have a wen drillpress and it's got a CVT on it with a digital RPM readout, surprisingly good. Sure, the spindle squeaks when you spin it by hand, but when powered, it's great, no complaints.
19:04 easy fix for this clamp is to either mushroom the end of the bar or drill a hole and pin the end of the bar. That is if you already have these clamps and do not have a local Harbor Freight.
The steam in the coffee cup is magic.
Starrett is a very well known precision measuring equipment company. They make, or used to at least, a tape measure. I have one and love it.
My favorite measuring tapes have been Masterforce. I've been woodworking for 15 years and the Masterforce tape I have feels the best, is predictable on the retract, and has all of the options I wanted in a tape.
I use to have a $49 black and decker circular saw a few years ago. Brought it for cutting up pallets for firewood. I worked really well with a 24 tooth blade on it. No complaints about it had the power to cut though most things including the odd nail
I own the same one. It bogs down a lot and has bad dust routing, but it gets it done. I changed to a blade that cost as much as the tool, and it made a world of difference.
WEN has a US office and US tech support that speaks clear english. Had a question about the negative battery cable on my Generator and the tech support was awesome and understanding of my lack of paying attention to the manual.
Thanks David. Now when I look at all the dust collection ports on my power tools, all I see are butt holes...😮
Once you go pink, you never go back. Thanks for all the quick reviews, looking forward to your upcoming project.
I have not been disappointed by any of the wen products I have purchased. I have and use the oscillating belt/spindle sander, band saw, drill press. I also have their 660 cfm rolling dust collector and their track saw, but haven't used either yet.
I have several Wen benchtop tools and the Wen track saw. For me as only a hobbyist woodworker in retirement it is a great saw. I put a Diablo thin kerf 40 tooth blade and it is great. Now being a retired cabinet maker, I have had access to Festool and while their track saw is amazing. Nowhere in my budget. Love this video. Love your content
I still have my Amazon cheep router bit set purchased back in 2012. I don't use them too much, but enough that they should have given out years ago. No burning when I use them with exception for the pattern bit. I get some mild burning with that one.
Love the throwaway comment, “You’re not taking this to the construction site” . . . So disappointed - I was looking forward to taking a pink drill to work and being the envy of every construction worker . . .
The Iron Eagle poster!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave you should get the wen spiral helical head planer for your budget shop and review it.
I have a few WEN tools, they've been pretty solid quality. Can't complain. They don't typically have the bells and whistles that more expensive brands have, but they'll get the job done.
I’m a makita guy, but I’ve got a handful of wen tools that I’m more than pleased with. Drill press works great, and the portable spindle sander is an absolute godsend for my microscopic shop.
Great vid, David. So fun. :D
Incidentally, i went looking for a "how to do flocking" video last week, and found myself watching one of your very early ones. So cool to see how little/much you've changed. 5 Thumbs up.
That drill is meant more for holes in drywall to hang stuff and/or just driving screws into threaded holes and things for speedy assembly.
Those types of corners clamps hold the wood in place, they really don’t clamp them with pressure against each piece of wood at the joining surfaces
I've got a Black&Decker jigsaw that I picked up at a garage sale, brand new for like $5 and it's my favorite jigsaw ever.
Great video man.
on the flip side of not having the stop on the f clamp, that means theoretically you could install it the other direction to be able to do an outward clamp
I LOVE the steam coming out that mug! 😂
If those router bits have a 1/4" shank, get a 6.5 mm drill and open the holes in the case with that. Or the tap size 6.8 mm to get even looser feel.
Comoware drill bits. Funny, but I have two of those sets and they are my go to drill bit for household stuff. They are so cheap that if I break or dull one, another set is cheap. But, this is the reason why I wrote this. I installed 4 barndoor tracks made of stainless steel. I reversed the top hangers, which required drilling a lot of quarter inch holes. I burned up a couple of Freud cobalt bits and tried others that did not last. Somehow I ran across and bought a set of Comoware cobalt drill bits. Let me tell you, the darned things lasted and lasted and drilled a lot of quarter inch holes in quarter inch stainless steel bar stock. For me, they were as good as or better than Freud. I used a WEN drill press on slowest speed and Tap Magic cutting oil. The drill bits are so good, I use them for a lot of stuff. Unless I am drilling in stainless, I don't think they will ever wear out. PS. I concur with your ratings and also put in a strong vote for WEN products. I have some of them also.
Hey if you are still looking for a tape measure to fall in love I might recommend a Festool's one. That one where the tape itself is made of plastic.
I'm with you! Never found a good tape. I mostly use a Stanley Fatmax
Craftsman is Stanley B&D. they make the same tapes just rebranded differently. Ive always been an original fat max fan for almost 2 decades in a fab shop. Typically get about 5 to 7 years out of one and usally somoene will steal it and accidently chop it in a shear or something lol.
Wen makes competent tools at a competitive price. They're not tools you'd want to use all day every day, but for a handful of projects a year they're perfectly reasonable.
Lol, the taped together instructions at 1:22 had me laughing. Love your sense of humor!
12:42 Irwin just came out with the best tape I’ve ever used. Has longer standout than a fatmax, double sided numbers, finger stop, and is durable. And obviously 1&1/4 blade…your selection of tapes just made me think well no wonder he hasn’t found a tape he loves lol EDIT I didn’t realize this is a fine woodwork channel…I’m not so sure my needs as a framer/carpenter are the same as yours. But as a framer, the new Irwin one is stellar
A lot of my major tool are WEN and I've never been disappointed.
loved the channel for years, chair backwards real talk needs to be a thing, your channel makes me want to make more stuff which is probably the highest compliment I can give. cant wait for the cheap tools build. I have a few Wen tools and for the price they have served me well. i got their spindle sander which I now feel is an essential tool but couldnt afford a super high end one. I use it all the time and it works great
Thank you!
For what it's worth, I have a Wen planer that I use occasionally and it does the job. For the price, no complaints.
Love the cgi steam coming out from the coffee mug
I gotta say I love the cgi steam coming off the mug at the beginning 😂
I love the "Top Cut" Tom Cruise (Jason Gedrick)!
hey btw about the f clamps, from what i know most good ones allow you to take the moveable part off and swap the directrion of the stationarry head so that you can use them to have things pushing away for certain aplicatyions where you might need that
Lmfao the zoom to the torn up instructions, then next frame the instructions are taped together. I cackled.
lol you mention Top Gun and show a picture of Iron Eagle, hilarious @10:31
David, The absolute best tape measure hands down is this one: Lufkin L725SCTMPN TAPE,25',SELF CENTERING. It has the fractions AND it also has the center measurement below each measurement (e.g. If you're reading 27 3/8", below that is 13 11/16) BUY IT!!!
In the words of Doug Marcaida from Forged in Fire....'It will Drill!' I did purchase a Deko sander and I am very happy with it for like $30.00.
I have an auto-lock Milwaukee imperial/metric tape measure I like a lot. If I'm not following a plan, I find working in metric easier.
I ain't mad about WEN. In my time woodworking I've had one of their sanders and one of their drill-presses, and both were great for the money spent on them.
I absolutely love the idea of having a budget shop! It might encourage folks to start the hobby knowing they don't need a 6 figure income!
Can't wait 😁!‼️
The steam coming out of the mug... nice touch editor!
I used a Wen air cleaner in my garage for a few years and I was really happy with it. Never had any problems out of it.
You showed an iron eagle poster to refer to Tom Cruise. That is Jason Gedrick.
I love your "I bought" series, it's one of my favorite videos on UA-cam
I’ve had a similar black and decker jigsaw (better angle adjustment and replaced the blades) for 15 years. Still works great. Paid $19.99.
I have an old all-orange B&D jigsaw and it rocks. Don't even care if it's cheap. Rock on.
The flat tool used to put the saw together is used for taking the trigger guard off of a new firearm....lol
My 20 year old Bosch Jig Saw base changes the exact same way as the B&D, except it's hex head screws.
Just a note on the router bits. I bought a very similar (if not the same) kit off Amazon, used the straight bit for a few times, and the bearing exploded. Lol. Cheap may not be the move here.
A good craftsman never blames their tools. Something for beginners to appreciate, it's not how much you spend on tools but how you use them. Can't wait to see what you do with these!
Still, some tools verge on unusable and some are downright dangerous.
Good, fun content, 5 stars!
I legit almost spit out my lunch when you said it's the saw Tom Cruise would use and show the poster for Iron Eagle 🤣🤣🤣
For tapemeasure there is only one. Hultafors Talmeter.
It is more or less a large caliper. Either you get the point and love it or you are to stuck in old ways.
As a novice who doesn't do a lot of woodworking--none of it in the fine furniture realm-- tool such as these are THE answer. If I get better and want to do some more complex projects that require greater precision, I can upgrade as needed. But that is unlikely to happen.
I'm curious if you're getting the cheapest sawstop for the thin slice tablesaw jig😂
The corner clamps are just to hold it together so you can get actual clamps on it. Helping hand if you will.
IMO the best cheap tools are harbor freight. similar drill is 15$ and works great for household stuff i do
I went to a Parkrose Hardware near where I just moved to and saw in addition to the usual red yellow and greens, a new blue called “Vulcan”, like great, another reason to worry if I’m getting good stuff for cheap or just cheap stuff
Regarding Harbor Freight clamps, I have purchased ten of them, all ten failed on first use. Four speed clamps, where the ratcheting mechanism/trigger assembly blew apart upon tightening, and six bar clamps that seemed ridgid until attempting a glueup of a large table, which now more closely resembles a trough. :(