I got the the new Generation 2 R1T bottem of the line dual motor and it has actually no problem. Build quality is good. Completely perfect. Already added a couple months now. Zero issues 🥰
What is the the miles per Kw? My 2022 Tesla X gets 3.2 miles per Kw and around 265 actual miles from full which shows to be 318... New it was 348 for 3 months then Searted dropping
My Gen2 R1S also had issues when closing the rear door. However, when I spoke to Service about it, they told me the door seals were changed between both generations. Essentially the cabin is completely water tight in the new generation. If you crack a window and then close the door, they close quite easily. So I’m hoping they do something like BMW or Mercedes, when you open the door, the top of the window is cracked a little bit.
The audio thing definitely seems like an defect to get looked at, ours is amazing. As both a Model Y and Rivian owner the things I like about my R1S that weren't mentioned; turning radius is so much better, real parking sensors, interior quality, 360 camera, and offroad capabilities. Tesla definitely wins for autopilot / FSD, however I'm just not someone who uses that.
I have a Gen 1 R1S and Gen 2 with Standard Audio. The standard audio is awful but I heard the premium is also bad. Rivians have 4 different audio systems but Gen 2 generally viewed as trash
I own a Rivian and I agree most of the things you said about the R1S. I appreciate your honest feedback. I wasn't impressed with the audio system myself, which is why I had an aftermarket sub and amplifier installed. Now I'm pretty happy with it. If you can get over the grieps you mentioned in this video, the Rivian is an amazing vehicle. I do admire the extra tech that comes with the Tesla, specifically FSD. I think it'll be a long while before we get anything close to that in the Rivian. Admittedly I'm in the same boat as the folks that would no longer consider buying a Tesla, though I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. I think each one leans towards a different demographic. City slicker versus adventure-oriented vehicle.
I bought a 2024 Model Y and I sold it after 3 months and bought an R1T. I liked the Tesla and really wanted to keep it, but I absolutely hated the seats. The design is not universal enough and cause me constant lower back pain which I have never had in any other car. And I've driven a ton of cars in my life. The side bolsters are too deep and narrow and the lumbar can not go flat so it pushes into your lower back. I absolutely love the seats in my R1T and the ride is great. It has had some issues but the service has been great and gave me a loaner or a rental the two times they have had it. It is by far my favorite vehicle I have ever owned hands down. Love it so much that I got my wife an R1S and now it is her favorite vehicle ever as well! I'm excited for the future. Many great EV options coming out!
The R1S was a massive upgrade from the Model Y for me. The Model Y plastic interior, single screen, and minimalism makes it feels cheap. Much like Tesla, Rivian will get better over time, I never expected it to beat Tesla in less time in existence than Tesla, no one should expect that.
As someone on the west coast that routinely does 6+ hour drives to national parks, not having a reliable and consistent radar cruise control + lane keep assist is absolutely devastating. Even crazier that my Subaru EyeSight system executes it near flawlessly when the car is only 1/3 the price. I'm not sure how Rivian can keep up the "nature/park friendly" ethos without actually really nailing down the fundamentals on driver assist technology.
Thank you for putting this review together and being honest. I have a reservation for an R1S, but have been on the sidelines trying to decide if I really want to go for it. I know that I am going to miss my Tesla’s FSD, which I use all the time. So, if I have both, I would always be tempted to take out my model 3 on long drives (to national parks and all) even though Rivian is the car made for outdoors. Hence, hesitant to move forward
I wish Rivian and Tesla would combine. I like both vehicles, my Tesla Model Y Performance and Rivian R1S; but, I would like to see more integration of the eco-systems. That means Rivian influencing Tesla and Tesla improving the Rivian electric technology.
Chris - thanks for being objective. Everyone compliments my Tesla’s audio system and I must say, it’s better than my 2023 BMW M3. Which cost more than double the price.
Thanks Chris. Def on point. Model Y and more recent R1T (Gen 1) owner here. I have the premium (Meridian) stereo in my Rivian and it sounds great, however, my cameras are crap compared to the Model Y. So net-net I've come to the same conclusion as you. I like the Rivian a lot, but Tesla does an excellent job in so many areas I'm having a heard time pulling the trigger on selling my Model Y as intended.
We traded in our Model Y for a Rivian R1T a couple months age. Absolutely love our Rivian even though we miss some of the tech from Tesla. We don’t regret it at all!
I agree with most of what you’re saying. I have a gen 1 R1T and 2023 Model X Plaid. Also 2022 MYP. None are perfect. Having both has been great. Model X has been the most problematic though. And both Rivian and Tesla service hasn’t been great. Even the loaners have been dirty and some broken things. But having both is great because I can switch between the two brands if I miss a feature from the other. All I know is I’m not going back to gas.
Thanks for the great content as usual! I currently drive a Model 3 and had intentions on buying a Model Y when I have more than just myself to drive. But my new camping/hiking hobby had me thinking about a Rivian instead. Can’t wait to see what improvements come with the R2 after a couple more years of Rivian being in the industry. Hoping the tech catches up 🤞🏽
For charging Rivians on Tesla infra, as I mentioned in your other video, you have to start it from the Tesla App. It's initial integration pain. The Model X/Y and R1S are different classes of vehicles. One is an SUV and the one is a crossover. SUV are more utility and better in snow which is why I'm interested in the R1S. You should have mentioned Rivian service center wait time...depending on where you are, it's much worse than Tesla...
Listening to your R1S audio example, it definitely sounds like there is an issue with the system. It sounds horrible, like a $15 Bluetooth speaker! I would definitely get it checked by Rivian to make sure there isn’t a hardware defect. If that’s what the premium audio should sound like, this actually changes my mind about buying a Gen 2 R1S.
I just got an R1S with the standard audio. It really is about as good as the average Bluetooth speaker. LOL. I don't care that much as I mostly listen to podcasts. The rest of the vehicle is great.
I drove a Tesla. To expensive to low to the ground. The only part I liked was the screen that shows what is in the blind spot. Part I disliked the most was using a screen for everything else. I am already sick of screens in the ICE too. Those screens are the biggest distraction. The only two screens a car needs is for navigation and the other to replace side mirrors with screens that see the blind spots. I am also not getting a Rivian. Probably going to get a Hybrid Maverick.
I'm not saying there won't be a problem to me. I look at it like this. Press car preproduction build actual production car? Complete build. But with problems as well
I got my model Y long range in 2021. I have 102,000 miles on it (giving it to my wife now )and today I pick up my non-foundation cyber beast, I can’t wait!
Chris, great video. Always looking forward to watch them. All very good points about Rivian and Tesla as well. Wife ordered the R2 as well so hopefully by then we’ll have better sounds system. It’s a deal killer for me but wife is not a sound person so she wouldn’t know the difference hahaha. But for me it was one of the reason I got a Tesla . Their sound system is one of the best. Mercedes has very good system as well and I agree as well they have better mileage accuracy compared to Tesla. Tesla charging network is unbeatable. Just came back from Vegas yesterday and charged at Baker and they had opened up more chargers. Now 96 stalls all at 250kw. Anyway love your videos.
Tesla all the way. Not just for the tech but the functionality is there. They started the ev game and shows their experience. Maybe one day another will catch on but looks like Tesla is good for now. You said you’re in tech Chris.. are you a dev? Or IT per se? ☺️
Tesla 3 owner here, after 5 years and 110K miles by far the best bang for the buck car ever, held up well, still going strong. we got an EQB last year because my wife did not want a computer on wheels and she loves it, I just got an EV9 (after looking at Y and Rivian, I have driven it a bit, cant stand the X that yoke and windshield is horrendous, the backseats suck), everybody I know who has rivian likes it but issues mostly as you describe, great off roading, bad on roading. EV9 falls into the middle, great build, soso materials, not so great sound, amazing room, CarPlay is great, no integrated range/trip planing is not, for the first time ever charging is a non issue because if I drive in eco the EV9 just keeps going, I am supposed to get 280miles, I get 300+ charging to 80%, yes. also: living in LA I am CONSTANTLY fighting hot sun on my head, I have tried every single screen and cover, the EV9 has an actual sunroof (that actually opens!) and has built in shades, what a concept. I will not take it to the track and I wont got boulder climbing but I am not worried about any dirt road and am looking forward to camping in it. oh, and V2L built in, AC outlets in the car and a LOT cheaper. some quirks (on off button, no memory seats?) but crazy roomy.
This video came right on time. I have an appointment tomorrow for a demo drive of the R1S. If I like it I’m going to put a deposit down on the R2!! Current TMY DM owner.
So many different reviews saying different things about different parts. It speaks to build quality and quality control. I was in the market for a Rivian S G2. Think I might wait it out.
Gen1 R1T and Y performance here. I use the R1T for off-roading and camping. Amazing vehicle. Biggest drawback is charging in national parks like Death Valley as the range is a bit lacking. Access to the SCs is a big plus. However, Tesla is in a league of it's own. Tech and performance are unmatched....for the price. The Lucid Sapphire would be my dream vehicle....when SC access is available.
I do like the styling, range and size of the Rivian, but I want the tech of a Tesla. Living in Japan I can't even buy a Rivian, and as I intend to keep my next car for as long as my last car (10+ years) I'm not sure Rivian is still gonna be around, as they're still losing thousands of dollars on every car they make. Therefore, still planning on getting a Model X, maybe next year...
I Actually Love My Model Y Premium sound system. it sounds amazing. It's right on Par with my Audi's B&O system. it sounds clear, with a lot of detail, and it doesn't only focus on extreme bass. Before experiencing the Audi B&O system, I used to love my music with just heavy bass in all my cheap cars. but after listening to the Audi how clear it is, with enough bass, and you can hear the lows and highs and mids. OMG! Its hard to listen to cheaper systems with bass heavy now. :(
i love my gen 1 r1s, build quality is much better than my tesla MY and MS, sound system is lacking, but the frunk space is awesome. The gear guard is great, but i wish rivian could record while in motion. agree with you on the 3rd roll, quite a pain to adjust the second bench after kids get into the 3td row. I feel the 2nd row should be more roomy like a van. thanks for the review on the 2nd gen r1s.
I came from a 2018 OG LR RWD Model 3, then a 2022 Model Y LR AWD, and then got a 2025 R1S dual standard in June as my pre-price hike discount voucher was expiring (originally a Nov 2018 reservation). Long story short, I just sold the R1S at cost for some of the many issues Chris outlined here. The other factor that gave me second thoughts that wasn’t in the video was that the company’s future is somewhat in question as they could go bankrupt before they turn a profit, and might either get bailed or bought out by someone else. I don’t think the brand is going anywhere at this point, but they might have a lot of instability before things settle out. I’d rather let my cash grow while waiting it out till they prove themselves a bit more.
Interesting on the audio - I had a Tesla Model Y before moving to R1S (Gen 1) - and I would agree with no adjustments out of the box the Model Y’s sound system sounded better - but once I applied an EQ profile that someone published based on their mic measurements - I had no issue with the R1S sound and the Atmos definitely sounds good as well. I thought about and test drove a model X - but I really needed the space and the lack of storage space in second row due to the Falcon doors in the X along with the lack of headroom and space in second and third rows was something I didn’t like. And I have never found the handling to be that big of a deal - it definitely feels bigger than the X - and it is - and so I think to expect these two vehicles to handle similarly is probably not fair. I will say that the Rivian is way smoother. Rivian definitely has a ways to go for the self-driving - but honestly - I never used FSD that much except on the highway - I am someone that just enjoys driving too much - but on long trips on the interstate - it is nice - and Rivian’s system definitely has a ways to go - and I agree it is like the early gen Tesla self driving circa 2018-2019 - which was when I owned one of the first Model 3 AWD. I went with a 2 year lease since in that time I will re-evaluate what is out there and potentially move to either R2 (assuming it is out by then) or perhaps something else - this tech is moving so fast that in that timeframe I am sure the landscape will be quite different and there will be even more and better choices out there.
Nice video Everyday Chris, but i have a different question. I have a similar build as you (without the muscles :) and i'm wondering if you'd ever share your workout plan and diet. Would you ever do a video on your workout plan regime and diet? Also, I'm still on the hunt for a tesla but i truly want a tesla model S. I hope you do a video on the S one day as well.
Bought a brand new Model X in June. Sold it for the Rivian R1S a month ago. Though I love my Rivian Chris, I do agree that the music is trash. It’s the only thing I hate about my car. I’m a big music advocate, but the sound system is so bad I rarely play music on it. Wish I could get my $1700 back. At this point, I’ll have to spend $2000 to get another sound system.
Tesla owners are pretty clueless about other brands charging at SC, especially Rivian. I've been told multiple times that I cannot charge there. Also, just an FYI...alot is spelled, a lot.
I have my deposit down for the R2, as MYP owner I get some of what you say, I've driven other EVs but at the end of the day, yes, the performance the tech is so much more advance in a Tesla because they were FIRST. That's why I can gripe about FSD failing, but at the end of the day, the amount of engineering behind it is impressive, especially with a "vision" only system. Sadly, I was convincing my wife to get a Tesla, she loved our MXP that I rented for a road trip, but now because of Elon she's shut it down. Sad.
Range Accuracy in a Tesla - I truly believe that people don't really understand which numbers to look at in the car. I have 64,000 miles+ on my 2021 LR MY, and when I use the navigation, its estimate of my arrival SOC projections are usually accurate to within 0-3%. There are times and conditions (temps, wind) where nature makes the error larger, and there are times where you are driving in bad traffic. Owners need to understand that the car attempts to compute SOC on arrival based on speeds possible given current traffic conditions, but at those conditions change (get better or worse) ahead of you, the SOC could have huge error. The main issue (I beleive) is that people are likely displaying MILES on their Tesla's and not SOC. As I not above, SOC usage is very accurate. The issue with showing Miles is that people are interpreting the number incorrectly. The number is NOT the miles you can drive under current conditions, it is the EPA rated miles you have left in the battery. Unless you are about to drive 35 mph on a flat surface with zero starts and stops for the next 10 hours, you are NOT getting that number, never. Just set the display to SOC and never look at that number ever again.
good job with the content in tis video - good story telling. Have a MYP but when we have family visiting, it would be nice to have a larger vehicle like the R1S or EV9. With the 2021 MYP I not had any issues - everything is seamless. The only complaint I have is not having apple play. But neither does Rivian.
I'm not (currently) getting a Tesla or Rivian for one reason, No Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Wont be getting any GM EVs (Lyriq excluded) either for the same reason. Come on Tesla, figure out how to make Mobile Phone projection work with your UI!
Wow That's amazing when I worked there starting in 2021 it was having the same behaviors As yours is in this video Yeah they really need help in that area
Please, please use a Dog Car Barrier when driving with you dogs. Especially at highway speeds. You don't want your dogs to fly through the windows during a crash and you don't want the airbags to hit your dogs either. Both scenarios will be deadly.
11:00 WOW... the Rivian sound system can't possibly be THAT bad. I'm thinking you have a bad amplifier. I'd check with other Rivian owners and listen to theirs "live" to see if it's the same. But dude....the Model Y sound system ROCKS and will truly be hard to beat; much better than the Burmester (not to mention B(l)ose) systems in my other cars. [Edit: I just got to the point in the video where there's a recall on the amp...there you go.]
Why are you wasting your money on the Rivian you have on order. This video tells it all. Tesla is more than 5 years ahead of Rivian (my opinion of course). I own a 2023 Tesla Model Y Long Range and paid cash which I'm very happy doing so and I did receive the $7,500 tax credit. I will only buy Tesla and in my case I have not had any issues to date (30K miles). I use FSD Supervised everytime I'm on the road. I can't wait when we all receive the software update allowing us to sit in the back seat without having to sit in the drivers seat.
I really wanted a Rivian, but I am on the fence. I was ok without FSD because I don't use it anyway and I love to drive. But, man, that suspension was abysmal in the 22" wheels. I love how big the car is and would be perfect for my family of 4. The sound system was also AWFUL. Even their premium sound system is terrible. I love the charging performance and range. It all depends on what your prioritize more.
7:14 I’m sorry, but you lost a lot of credibility with me when you said a Tesla model 3 drives like a sports car. I went on a test drive and it feels like driving a golf cart. I think it’s like when Vegans say “this tastes just like a burger,” it may taste good, but I think you’ve just forgotten the flavor of meat. I think people are switching to ev made by regular car companies because they just drive like a normal car
I am surprised about your statement of the self-drive of Tesla. My Tesla model 3 highland is seriously dangerous. It does not change lane if there is a truck in next lane, even so there is space. It reacts completely crazy, breaks without reason. Sometimes so powerful that it becomes dangerous for following traffic . I don’t trust tesla at all. It’s a nice car, but self drive, no way!
You are so right! I've driven other EVs and they don't compare to my 23 model S. Best car I've ever owned. I want a new EV with more range though. I might get the Silverado EV to have a pickup truck. I would get the cyber truck if it got to 400 miles. My model S barely gets 320.
The boatiness of the R1S was one of the reasons we recently passed on it. The driving experience up front was good, however the rear of the car felt disconnected and somewhat floaty. Par for the course in a vehicle of this length - the R2 should be better all around if you are seeking the feel and driving dynamics of a mid-size SAV.
Chris, I really appreciate the fair and thorough review. You put so much into these videos, and it shows-thank you for that! Personally, I’m a big fan of Elon and the vision he’s currently pushing forward, but that’s not why I love Tesla. I’ve been a supporter from the start, even when Elon’s views didn’t necessarily align with mine. I have many Teslas and For me, it’s all about the car, and there’s truly nothing else like it on the road. Sure, it has its quirks like any vehicle, but for those of us who value innovation and tech, it’s the best car out there by a mile. Honestly, I find it baffling that some people are letting Elon’s current views change how they feel about their Teslas and that they are getting rid of them… what a joke!😂. The car is what matters to me, regardless of politics.
The range is a dumb a$$ argument. Tesla uses the EPA mileage estimates. Tesla doesn't make this number up themselves. I noticed that when you quoted other manufacturers' estimate, you were talking in the 200s.Tesla's estimate of remaining charge upon arrival is extremely accurate. I dont know ANY previous Tesla owners that have given up there Teslas for ANY of the brands you mentioned. You should KNOW that a car that predicts MILES is guessing based on previous driving session. It's called a Guess O Meter for a reason. Been driving EVs for 11 years now.
I have issues with Tesla Autopilot that’s what assistance are … FSD is different game and everyone is catching up quickly but it all comes to price and Tesla has advantage .. it’s bullshit if you think people gonna not buy other brands if price is under 40
I got the the new Generation 2 R1T bottem of the line dual motor and it has actually no problem. Build quality is good. Completely perfect. Already added a couple months now.
Zero issues 🥰
yay!
What is the the miles per Kw?
My 2022 Tesla X gets 3.2 miles per Kw and around 265 actual miles from full which shows to be 318... New it was 348 for 3 months then Searted dropping
Good and perfect are NOT synonymous.
My Gen2 R1S also had issues when closing the rear door. However, when I spoke to Service about it, they told me the door seals were changed between both generations. Essentially the cabin is completely water tight in the new generation. If you crack a window and then close the door, they close quite easily. So I’m hoping they do something like BMW or Mercedes, when you open the door, the top of the window is cracked a little bit.
The audio thing definitely seems like an defect to get looked at, ours is amazing. As both a Model Y and Rivian owner the things I like about my R1S that weren't mentioned; turning radius is so much better, real parking sensors, interior quality, 360 camera, and offroad capabilities. Tesla definitely wins for autopilot / FSD, however I'm just not someone who uses that.
Good to know
I have a Gen 1 R1S and Gen 2 with Standard Audio. The standard audio is awful but I heard the premium is also bad. Rivians have 4 different audio systems but Gen 2 generally viewed as trash
I own a Rivian and I agree most of the things you said about the R1S. I appreciate your honest feedback. I wasn't impressed with the audio system myself, which is why I had an aftermarket sub and amplifier installed. Now I'm pretty happy with it. If you can get over the grieps you mentioned in this video, the Rivian is an amazing vehicle. I do admire the extra tech that comes with the Tesla, specifically FSD. I think it'll be a long while before we get anything close to that in the Rivian. Admittedly I'm in the same boat as the folks that would no longer consider buying a Tesla, though I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. I think each one leans towards a different demographic. City slicker versus adventure-oriented vehicle.
Youre a pansy, global warming isnt real. Its jewish propoganda
Hate the Yoke, Hate the stalkless steering column. But love the car other than those things.
Keep it up Uncle Chris. I see you are going places and far. 😅 Great video and editing as usual
Thank you for ALL the transparency! Keep doing what you're doing. Loved the video!
Thank you so much for the honest, detailed review & totally appreciate your content!
Hope RJ sees this man, I really like him and don't want crazy Elon to take over (which he already did). We need normal ppl like RJ
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I bought a 2024 Model Y and I sold it after 3 months and bought an R1T. I liked the Tesla and really wanted to keep it, but I absolutely hated the seats. The design is not universal enough and cause me constant lower back pain which I have never had in any other car. And I've driven a ton of cars in my life. The side bolsters are too deep and narrow and the lumbar can not go flat so it pushes into your lower back. I absolutely love the seats in my R1T and the ride is great. It has had some issues but the service has been great and gave me a loaner or a rental the two times they have had it. It is by far my favorite vehicle I have ever owned hands down. Love it so much that I got my wife an R1S and now it is her favorite vehicle ever as well! I'm excited for the future. Many great EV options coming out!
Agree sears are better in the Rivian for sure
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The R1S was a massive upgrade from the Model Y for me. The Model Y plastic interior, single screen, and minimalism makes it feels cheap. Much like Tesla, Rivian will get better over time, I never expected it to beat Tesla in less time in existence than Tesla, no one should expect that.
Yeah really surprising to learn that a car with 2x the cost feels less cheap.
@@wsu8568exactly. I like the simplicity and “modern” interior of the tesla. You get what you pay for.
It beats Tesla so bad that they sell a fraction of the volume Tesla does. Explain please.
I have an 1st gen R1S. The size, utility, range, and versatility has me not missing the Model Y at all. Day and night.
Different class of vehicle Einstein
As someone on the west coast that routinely does 6+ hour drives to national parks, not having a reliable and consistent radar cruise control + lane keep assist is absolutely devastating. Even crazier that my Subaru EyeSight system executes it near flawlessly when the car is only 1/3 the price. I'm not sure how Rivian can keep up the "nature/park friendly" ethos without actually really nailing down the fundamentals on driver assist technology.
Thank you for putting this review together and being honest. I have a reservation for an R1S, but have been on the sidelines trying to decide if I really want to go for it. I know that I am going to miss my Tesla’s FSD, which I use all the time. So, if I have both, I would always be tempted to take out my model 3 on long drives (to national parks and all) even though Rivian is the car made for outdoors. Hence, hesitant to move forward
I wish Rivian and Tesla would combine. I like both vehicles, my Tesla Model Y Performance and Rivian R1S; but, I would like to see more integration of the eco-systems. That means Rivian influencing Tesla and Tesla improving the Rivian electric technology.
Chris - thanks for being objective. Everyone compliments my Tesla’s audio system and I must say, it’s better than my 2023 BMW M3. Which cost more than double the price.
Can you do a review with lucid
The suv!? Yah. Did one with a pure
Thanks Chris. Def on point. Model Y and more recent R1T (Gen 1) owner here. I have the premium (Meridian) stereo in my Rivian and it sounds great, however, my cameras are crap compared to the Model Y. So net-net I've come to the same conclusion as you. I like the Rivian a lot, but Tesla does an excellent job in so many areas I'm having a heard time pulling the trigger on selling my Model Y as intended.
I love your thorough review of everything. I wish you had one for every SUV!
We traded in our Model Y for a Rivian R1T a couple months age. Absolutely love our Rivian even though we miss some of the tech from Tesla. We don’t regret it at all!
I agree with most of what you’re saying. I have a gen 1 R1T and 2023 Model X Plaid. Also 2022 MYP. None are perfect. Having both has been great. Model X has been the most problematic though. And both Rivian and Tesla service hasn’t been great. Even the loaners have been dirty and some broken things. But having both is great because I can switch between the two brands if I miss a feature from the other.
All I know is I’m not going back to gas.
Thanks for the great content as usual! I currently drive a Model 3 and had intentions on buying a Model Y when I have more than just myself to drive. But my new camping/hiking hobby had me thinking about a Rivian instead. Can’t wait to see what improvements come with the R2 after a couple more years of Rivian being in the industry. Hoping the tech catches up 🤞🏽
I've taken my car in for build quality issues at 9000 miles. You have full bumper to bumper warranty until 50000 miles. Not just 500 miles
Yep R1S is way better at every angle...
For charging Rivians on Tesla infra, as I mentioned in your other video, you have to start it from the Tesla App. It's initial integration pain.
The Model X/Y and R1S are different classes of vehicles. One is an SUV and the one is a crossover. SUV are more utility and better in snow which is why I'm interested in the R1S.
You should have mentioned Rivian service center wait time...depending on where you are, it's much worse than Tesla...
Great review. You have confirmed everything I was thinking.
Listening to your R1S audio example, it definitely sounds like there is an issue with the system. It sounds horrible, like a $15 Bluetooth speaker! I would definitely get it checked by Rivian to make sure there isn’t a hardware defect. If that’s what the premium audio should sound like, this actually changes my mind about buying a Gen 2 R1S.
I just got an R1S with the standard audio. It really is about as good as the average Bluetooth speaker. LOL. I don't care that much as I mostly listen to podcasts. The rest of the vehicle is great.
I drove a Tesla. To expensive to low to the ground. The only part I liked was the screen that shows what is in the blind spot. Part I disliked the most was using a screen for everything else. I am already sick of screens in the ICE too. Those screens are the biggest distraction. The only two screens a car needs is for navigation and the other to replace side mirrors with screens that see the blind spots. I am also not getting a Rivian. Probably going to get a Hybrid Maverick.
I'm not saying there won't be a problem to me. I look at it like this. Press car preproduction build actual production car? Complete build. But with problems as well
I got my model Y long range in 2021. I have 102,000 miles on it (giving it to my wife now )and today I pick up my non-foundation cyber beast, I can’t wait!
I have a Tesla y, r1s. They are very different. But just to put it there. Even model x is different from r1s. Tesla is way too small.
Chris, great video. Always looking forward to watch them. All very good points about Rivian and Tesla as well. Wife ordered the R2 as well so hopefully by then we’ll have better sounds system. It’s a deal killer for me but wife is not a sound person so she wouldn’t know the difference hahaha. But for me it was one of the reason I got a Tesla . Their sound system is one of the best. Mercedes has very good system as well and I agree as well they have better mileage accuracy compared to Tesla.
Tesla charging network is unbeatable. Just came back from Vegas yesterday and charged at Baker and they had opened up more chargers. Now 96 stalls all at 250kw. Anyway love your videos.
If you want Tesla with good build quality - just buy one from the Berlin factory :)
Tesla all the way. Not just for the tech but the functionality is there. They started the ev game and shows their experience. Maybe one day another will catch on but looks like Tesla is good for now. You said you’re in tech Chris.. are you a dev? Or IT per se? ☺️
hobby haha
I have both R1S and Crybertruck, If not FSD, i will pick Rivian over. May be I am older and not a tech guy.
Agreed. It's hard to go from Tesla to Rivian. Tesla just been doing it longer. Driving experience and dare I say even quality better!?
Tesla 3 owner here, after 5 years and 110K miles by far the best bang for the buck car ever, held up well, still going strong. we got an EQB last year because my wife did not want a computer on wheels and she loves it, I just got an EV9 (after looking at Y and Rivian, I have driven it a bit, cant stand the X that yoke and windshield is horrendous, the backseats suck), everybody I know who has rivian likes it but issues mostly as you describe, great off roading, bad on roading. EV9 falls into the middle, great build, soso materials, not so great sound, amazing room, CarPlay is great, no integrated range/trip planing is not, for the first time ever charging is a non issue because if I drive in eco the EV9 just keeps going, I am supposed to get 280miles, I get 300+ charging to 80%, yes. also: living in LA I am CONSTANTLY fighting hot sun on my head, I have tried every single screen and cover, the EV9 has an actual sunroof (that actually opens!) and has built in shades, what a concept. I will not take it to the track and I wont got boulder climbing but I am not worried about any dirt road and am looking forward to camping in it. oh, and V2L built in, AC outlets in the car and a LOT cheaper. some quirks (on off button, no memory seats?) but crazy roomy.
This video came right on time. I have an appointment tomorrow for a demo drive of the R1S. If I like it I’m going to put a deposit down on the R2!! Current TMY DM owner.
So many different reviews saying different things about different parts. It speaks to build quality and quality control. I was in the market for a Rivian S G2. Think I might wait it out.
Why is this channel not massive?
Gen1 R1T and Y performance here. I use the R1T for off-roading and camping. Amazing vehicle. Biggest drawback is charging in national parks like Death Valley as the range is a bit lacking. Access to the SCs is a big plus. However, Tesla is in a league of it's own. Tech and performance are unmatched....for the price. The Lucid Sapphire would be my dream vehicle....when SC access is available.
Spot on! I have owned 3 Tesla and 2 Rivians. Rivian is great, but Tesla is far superior choice for the same reasons that you mentioned.
I do like the styling, range and size of the Rivian, but I want the tech of a Tesla. Living in Japan I can't even buy a Rivian, and as I intend to keep my next car for as long as my last car (10+ years) I'm not sure Rivian is still gonna be around, as they're still losing thousands of dollars on every car they make. Therefore, still planning on getting a Model X, maybe next year...
What's up EDC! Thanks for the video and I was deciding between Rivian and Tesla and I am going with Tesla.
I Actually Love My Model Y Premium sound system.
it sounds amazing. It's right on Par with my Audi's B&O system. it sounds clear, with a lot of detail, and it doesn't only focus on extreme bass.
Before experiencing the Audi B&O system, I used to love my music with just heavy bass in all my cheap cars. but after listening to the Audi how clear it is, with enough bass, and you can hear the lows and highs and mids. OMG! Its hard to listen to cheaper systems with bass heavy now. :(
i love my gen 1 r1s, build quality is much better than my tesla MY and MS, sound system is lacking, but the frunk space is awesome. The gear guard is great, but i wish rivian could record while in motion. agree with you on the 3rd roll, quite a pain to adjust the second bench after kids get into the 3td row. I feel the 2nd row should be more roomy like a van. thanks for the review on the 2nd gen r1s.
My next electric will be a Rivian
I came from a 2018 OG LR RWD Model 3, then a 2022 Model Y LR AWD, and then got a 2025 R1S dual standard in June as my pre-price hike discount voucher was expiring (originally a Nov 2018 reservation). Long story short, I just sold the R1S at cost for some of the many issues Chris outlined here. The other factor that gave me second thoughts that wasn’t in the video was that the company’s future is somewhat in question as they could go bankrupt before they turn a profit, and might either get bailed or bought out by someone else. I don’t think the brand is going anywhere at this point, but they might have a lot of instability before things settle out. I’d rather let my cash grow while waiting it out till they prove themselves a bit more.
Interesting on the audio - I had a Tesla Model Y before moving to R1S (Gen 1) - and I would agree with no adjustments out of the box the Model Y’s sound system sounded better - but once I applied an EQ profile that someone published based on their mic measurements - I had no issue with the R1S sound and the Atmos definitely sounds good as well. I thought about and test drove a model X - but I really needed the space and the lack of storage space in second row due to the Falcon doors in the X along with the lack of headroom and space in second and third rows was something I didn’t like. And I have never found the handling to be that big of a deal - it definitely feels bigger than the X - and it is - and so I think to expect these two vehicles to handle similarly is probably not fair. I will say that the Rivian is way smoother. Rivian definitely has a ways to go for the self-driving - but honestly - I never used FSD that much except on the highway - I am someone that just enjoys driving too much - but on long trips on the interstate - it is nice - and Rivian’s system definitely has a ways to go - and I agree it is like the early gen Tesla self driving circa 2018-2019 - which was when I owned one of the first Model 3 AWD. I went with a 2 year lease since in that time I will re-evaluate what is out there and potentially move to either R2 (assuming it is out by then) or perhaps something else - this tech is moving so fast that in that timeframe I am sure the landscape will be quite different and there will be even more and better choices out there.
Nice video Everyday Chris, but i have a different question. I have a similar build as you (without the muscles :) and i'm wondering if you'd ever share your workout plan and diet. Would you ever do a video on your workout plan regime and diet? Also, I'm still on the hunt for a tesla but i truly want a tesla model S. I hope you do a video on the S one day as well.
Thank you for your honest review. Really appreciate your contents 👍🏻
My pleasure 😊
2:55 I've found that FSD will move over for trucks, but non-FSD package autosteer will just stay in the center of the lane.
base auto pilot will also move over for trucks. Our Teslas with basic autopilot does it
Bought a brand new Model X in June. Sold it for the Rivian R1S a month ago. Though I love my Rivian Chris, I do agree that the music is trash. It’s the only thing I hate about my car. I’m a big music advocate, but the sound system is so bad I rarely play music on it. Wish I could get my $1700 back. At this point, I’ll have to spend $2000 to get another sound system.
I have standard audio and it is very hard to upgrade. Rivian purposely software locks the speakers
Tesla owners are pretty clueless about other brands charging at SC, especially Rivian. I've been told multiple times that I cannot charge there. Also, just an FYI...alot is spelled, a lot.
That rivian sound system sounds like when youre in the bathroom at a house party😂
Since you're driving a press car, it's not like a full production Build car? It's a press car for a reason. So you're about to have some problem.
FSD isn't perfect but compared to other driver assistance it's far ahead of the game
I have my deposit down for the R2, as MYP owner I get some of what you say, I've driven other EVs but at the end of the day, yes, the performance the tech is so much more advance in a Tesla because they were FIRST. That's why I can gripe about FSD failing, but at the end of the day, the amount of engineering behind it is impressive, especially with a "vision" only system. Sadly, I was convincing my wife to get a Tesla, she loved our MXP that I rented for a road trip, but now because of Elon she's shut it down. Sad.
I love my R1S Gen 2. Had a Tesla for 3 years. Rivian just rides betters, has way better build quality and lots of cool features.
Only thing that my Tesla did better was fsd. Not a deal breaker for me. Highway Rivian is equally good.
Range Accuracy in a Tesla - I truly believe that people don't really understand which numbers to look at in the car. I have 64,000 miles+ on my 2021 LR MY, and when I use the navigation, its estimate of my arrival SOC projections are usually accurate to within 0-3%. There are times and conditions (temps, wind) where nature makes the error larger, and there are times where you are driving in bad traffic. Owners need to understand that the car attempts to compute SOC on arrival based on speeds possible given current traffic conditions, but at those conditions change (get better or worse) ahead of you, the SOC could have huge error.
The main issue (I beleive) is that people are likely displaying MILES on their Tesla's and not SOC. As I not above, SOC usage is very accurate. The issue with showing Miles is that people are interpreting the number incorrectly. The number is NOT the miles you can drive under current conditions, it is the EPA rated miles you have left in the battery. Unless you are about to drive 35 mph on a flat surface with zero starts and stops for the next 10 hours, you are NOT getting that number, never. Just set the display to SOC and never look at that number ever again.
good job with the content in tis video - good story telling. Have a MYP but when we have family visiting, it would be nice to have a larger vehicle like the R1S or EV9. With the 2021 MYP I not had any issues - everything is seamless. The only complaint I have is not having apple play. But neither does Rivian.
The Lincoln Futura concept car was the first to have a yoke steering wheel.
People think name brand speakers make them good. Tesla's no brand speakers are excellent by a long shot.
I'm not (currently) getting a Tesla or Rivian for one reason, No Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Wont be getting any GM EVs (Lyriq excluded) either for the same reason. Come on Tesla, figure out how to make Mobile Phone projection work with your UI!
How do you feel about getting a used model wire or model? 3 with close to 100,000, mi. Would you recommend or would you not recommend?
hmmm. battery warranty willl be over soon so not sure its worth it
@EverydayChris thank you
If rivian gen 2 can have their matrix headlights fully work, what’s teslas excuse? Hopefully it comes in this years holiday update.
Wow That's amazing when I worked there starting in 2021 it was having the same behaviors As yours is in this video Yeah they really need help in that area
Please, please use a Dog Car Barrier when driving with you dogs. Especially at highway speeds. You don't want your dogs to fly through the windows during a crash and you don't want the airbags to hit your dogs either. Both scenarios will be deadly.
Good idea
Or a dog to hit you, which could kill you
Does one need FSD to move away in your lane from a truck in the adjacent lane getting to close, or does the basic autopilot do that as well?
11:00 WOW... the Rivian sound system can't possibly be THAT bad. I'm thinking you have a bad amplifier. I'd check with other Rivian owners and listen to theirs "live" to see if it's the same. But dude....the Model Y sound system ROCKS and will truly be hard to beat; much better than the Burmester (not to mention B(l)ose) systems in my other cars. [Edit: I just got to the point in the video where there's a recall on the amp...there you go.]
Think you can test a lyriq or a blazer?
Bro thank you, the sound system is a huge deal breaker for me. Thanks!
What about. Volvo ex 90 present ly own xc 90 with 130000 miles no major issues
Why are you wasting your money on the Rivian you have on order. This video tells it all. Tesla is more than 5 years ahead of Rivian (my opinion of course). I own a 2023 Tesla Model Y Long Range and paid cash which I'm very happy doing so and I did receive the $7,500 tax credit. I will only buy Tesla and in my case I have not had any issues to date (30K miles). I use FSD Supervised everytime I'm on the road. I can't wait when we all receive the software update allowing us to sit in the back seat without having to sit in the drivers seat.
the sound system comparison was crazy..wow
I just hope Tesla adds leveling on camp mode without needing to enable cybertent
I really wanted a Rivian, but I am on the fence.
I was ok without FSD because I don't use it anyway and I love to drive. But, man, that suspension was abysmal in the 22" wheels. I love how big the car is and would be perfect for my family of 4. The sound system was also AWFUL. Even their premium sound system is terrible. I love the charging performance and range. It all depends on what your prioritize more.
This seems like a summary of my video haha
Soon any car without FSD will be a laughing stock
Can't wait to get my R2!
i sat in a display R1S and i agree about the audio.
7:14 I’m sorry, but you lost a lot of credibility with me when you said a Tesla model 3 drives like a sports car. I went on a test drive and it feels like driving a golf cart. I think it’s like when Vegans say “this tastes just like a burger,” it may taste good, but I think you’ve just forgotten the flavor of meat. I think people are switching to ev made by regular car companies because they just drive like a normal car
I am surprised about your statement of the self-drive of Tesla. My Tesla model 3 highland is seriously dangerous. It does not change lane if there is a truck in next lane, even so there is space. It reacts completely crazy, breaks without reason. Sometimes so powerful that it becomes dangerous for following traffic . I don’t trust tesla at all. It’s a nice car, but self drive, no way!
A truly honest review. Some say, "honest review " and they have more bias than fox news.
This review is quite exaggerated and inaccurate.
2:31 I thought we was about to hear Dre/Snoop
my Tesla Model 3 range estimate was pretty accurate all the time...
I have a Y and R1S. The only thing the Rivian wins in is ride comfort. That’s it. Tesla wins in every other category
Please review the BMW iX xDrive50! It’s the sweet spot in their electric SAV lineup at the moment.
coming SOOOOON
You are so right! I've driven other EVs and they don't compare to my 23 model S. Best car I've ever owned. I want a new EV with more range though. I might get the Silverado EV to have a pickup truck. I would get the cyber truck if it got to 400 miles. My model S barely gets 320.
The boatiness of the R1S was one of the reasons we recently passed on it.
The driving experience up front was good, however the rear of the car felt disconnected and somewhat floaty.
Par for the course in a vehicle of this length - the R2 should be better all around if you are seeking the feel and driving dynamics of a mid-size SAV.
The launch edition had a Meridian sound system that everyone agrees was much better. Mine sounds great.
I have a model X plaid and gen 1 and gen 2 R1s and I agree with your points. I prefer the X unless I need to carry more passengers
Despite my ill feelings for the Tesla CEO. I still love my Model X 2022 with the yoke and falcon wing doors. I would never buy a Rivian.
Can you elaborate on your ill feelings towards Elon?
I hope there’s good alternatives to Tesla (solely based on E.M.) by the time I’m ready to unload my 2023 Model 3 (which I’m enjoying fully).
Chris, I really appreciate the fair and thorough review. You put so much into these videos, and it shows-thank you for that! Personally, I’m a big fan of Elon and the vision he’s currently pushing forward, but that’s not why I love Tesla. I’ve been a supporter from the start, even when Elon’s views didn’t necessarily align with mine. I have many Teslas and For me, it’s all about the car, and there’s truly nothing else like it on the road. Sure, it has its quirks like any vehicle, but for those of us who value innovation and tech, it’s the best car out there by a mile. Honestly, I find it baffling that some people are letting Elon’s current views change how they feel about their Teslas and that they are getting rid of them… what a joke!😂. The car is what matters to me, regardless of politics.
thanks man! haha yeah
The range is a dumb a$$ argument. Tesla uses the EPA mileage estimates. Tesla doesn't make this number up themselves. I noticed that when you quoted other manufacturers' estimate, you were talking in the 200s.Tesla's estimate of remaining charge upon arrival is extremely accurate. I dont know ANY previous Tesla owners that have given up there Teslas for ANY of the brands you mentioned. You should KNOW that a car that predicts MILES is guessing based on previous driving session. It's called a Guess O Meter for a reason. Been driving EVs for 11 years now.
thank you for at least mentioning how... questionable musk is
I have issues with Tesla Autopilot that’s what assistance are … FSD is different game and everyone is catching up quickly but it all comes to price and Tesla has advantage .. it’s bullshit if you think people gonna not buy other brands if price is under 40
I’m never ever giving up my Tesla for any other EV
Me too!
That’s what I’m saying lol I’m spoiled
Imma make the switch to rivian as soon as they have the NACS port
Are these people working for tesla... Tesla SUCK at every angle. Its toyota of CA basically
You enjoy poor fit and finish… we already know that
Phenomenal video!
I made a mistake and took my son in my Porsche to see the Tesla. He said it's so cheap looking inside. End of discussion