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  • @refinery29
    @refinery29  6 років тому +3206

    What other topics would you like to see explored on our investigative series Shady? Comment below!

    • @psychic644
      @psychic644 6 років тому +154

      The rise of Malpractice in the United States. Neglected patients, those who have been maimed. Being given high doses of radiation and developing a secondary disease. The patients are not being covered for the damage. The results of medical malpractice last a lifetime. More and more Americans are never compensated. They can't afford the medical care they need. They often die prematurely as a result. I can prove it, I am a victim of malpractice.

    • @isitamoguel
      @isitamoguel 6 років тому +217

      Beauty pageants

    • @nicoleonlysometimes824
      @nicoleonlysometimes824 6 років тому +37

      Refinery29 more cheerleading please

    • @mcee555
      @mcee555 6 років тому +53

      Something about religion! Keep up this awesome series

    • @Tommygrl1327
      @Tommygrl1327 6 років тому +56

      Yes, an angle on beauty pageants would be interesting!

  • @jonnawhite1989
    @jonnawhite1989 5 років тому +10767

    The NFL rejected an interview. That says A LOT.

    • @sacrore9
      @sacrore9 4 роки тому +165

      Hey siri, how do I like a comment more than a 100 times?

    • @Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654
      @Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 4 роки тому +173

      Of course the NFL rejected the interview. They don't want anyone to know what's been going on. They've already cought hell over Colin Kaepernick.

    • @nas84payne
      @nas84payne 4 роки тому +79

      Blessed Beloved The NFL is evil tbh. Cheerleaders, Kap, lack of care over players health, lack of rights for players.

    • @themsmloveswar3985
      @themsmloveswar3985 4 роки тому +17

      NFL No Fools Left. People are wising up.

    • @lks806
      @lks806 4 роки тому +29

      They even silence football players getting concussions in games but they aren’t ready to have that type of conversation yet either...

  • @tawnystill8341
    @tawnystill8341 5 років тому +23186

    Being a professional cheerleader is still a profession. They train all their lives (like an Olympian) but they are treated with gross disrespect.

    • @sophiap.743
      @sophiap.743 5 років тому +121

      Black Knight Fool ahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaha ur not a cheerleader tho.:)

    • @sophiap.743
      @sophiap.743 5 років тому +132

      Black Knight Fool i am a level 4 all star cheerleader. I’ve cheered for the last 3 years of my life. I have a boyfriend. :)

    • @sophiap.743
      @sophiap.743 5 років тому +56

      Black Knight Fool what would I be jealous of

    • @chloee.6495
      @chloee.6495 5 років тому +147

      @Black Knight Fool well, found the incel.

    • @myeverythinq8666
      @myeverythinq8666 5 років тому +63

      Black Knight Fool I’m confused, are you saying that they are mistreated by Lesbians and not men?

  • @itdoesntmatter9080
    @itdoesntmatter9080 4 роки тому +4697

    The players are literally allowed to stalk them, but if the cheerleaders even pick up a phone call, the cheerleaders get in trouble? Dang that is wrong.

    • @boston312
      @boston312 4 роки тому +66

      before the rules were established with no contact of the players, many of these cheerleaders were initiating contact with the players and getting impregnated on purpose for child support payments $$$$$ or they were making false rape accusations. The NFL just decided to prevent these problems all together with a no contact policy.

    • @Cooldudewhotellsamazingjokes
      @Cooldudewhotellsamazingjokes 4 роки тому +281

      @@boston312 Then why not prohibit players from contacting the cheerleaders?

    • @boston312
      @boston312 4 роки тому +41

      @@Cooldudewhotellsamazingjokes while im definitely not against your suggestion, my guess is that since the focus and money are on the football players that they see the cheerleaders as more of a liability than the other way around. Its basically about protecting their investments. Ill go out on a limb and say that these million dollar athletes can pretty much have access to any woman they want and therefore dont need to contact the cheerleaders as much as the other way around. From a league's perspective, do these football teams want their star players dealing with false rape and baby accusations when they should be focused on their profession and performing well for the teams that spent millions on them? Think of how much more difficult it would be for a team to replace a Tom Brady compared to that of a cheerleader.

    • @Cooldudewhotellsamazingjokes
      @Cooldudewhotellsamazingjokes 4 роки тому +124

      @@boston312 It is simple. No social media contact between cheerleaders and players. Be fair.
      It is not about who is harder to replace. It is about being professional.

    • @boston312
      @boston312 4 роки тому +19

      @@Cooldudewhotellsamazingjokes the point i was trying to make is that the cheerleaders are seeking the pro players more than the other way around. NFL players can pretty much get any girl they want including cheerleaders.

  • @mrspaulb3889
    @mrspaulb3889 3 роки тому +1350

    A person’s sex life, or lack thereof, should never be up for public discussion or debate. It really is no one else’s business but yours, unless you are a predator who is breaking the law. I personally admire her for doing her own thing, even though I don’t fault someone else for not doing the same. “To each their own.”

    • @castelrose
      @castelrose 3 роки тому +11

      Tell the Supreme Court that :(

    • @markoz673bajen8
      @markoz673bajen8 2 роки тому +1

      These no need Court; they need to play Rugby. Hard Dirt over shoulder tampon wearing studs.

    • @alfamejeu7237
      @alfamejeu7237 2 роки тому

      @@castelrose until you take the life of someone else due to your own neglect and false

    • @castelrose
      @castelrose 2 роки тому

      @@alfamejeu7237 once I understand what you said I might consider it. txs

    • @rog9601
      @rog9601 Рік тому

      Whoever in the Miami organization asked her that needs to be fired and the HR department needs to train better on interviewing.

  • @thunderwolf4237
    @thunderwolf4237 5 років тому +13960

    $100.00 per game?? Wow. When some of the players make millions per game? So wrong.

    • @ConnorGrosseFilms
      @ConnorGrosseFilms 5 років тому +53

      Thunder Wolf who makes millions a game???

    • @beccafrank6962
      @beccafrank6962 5 років тому +393

      Connor Grosse Films Wilson just had a $140 million contract extension with the Seahawks

    • @ericaj1310
      @ericaj1310 5 років тому +132

      Becca Frank that's a contract, for multiple games

    • @lilegg301
      @lilegg301 5 років тому +316

      Erica Spranger multiple games but the point is in the same amount of time they earn DRASTICALLY less. some of the pay should be given to these people. they will eventually earn enough to buy anything in the world, what is the need to give them anymore.

    • @elijahschemel9745
      @elijahschemel9745 5 років тому +126

      They are more talented and throwing there bodies at other humans risking dying and players make about 5 million for 16 games dip shit

  • @LittleMissRockChalk
    @LittleMissRockChalk 6 років тому +3852

    In college I worked at a brewery with an NFL cheerleader. I asked her why she waits tables if she’s a cheerleader, and she said it’s because her cheer job only pays minimum wage. Yikes!

    • @Guobtz
      @Guobtz 6 років тому +147

      At work we had a temp hygienist come in who was also a professional cheerleader for a football team. Temping as a dental hygienist gave her the freedom to earn an income and do what she loves but what a shame they don't get paid more.

    • @elizabethhanna6285
      @elizabethhanna6285 6 років тому +50

      Our mail woman was also a former NFL cheerleader.

    • @refinery29
      @refinery29  6 років тому +49

      +yellowbrickexpat So crazy!!

    • @ranelgallardo7031
      @ranelgallardo7031 6 років тому +13

      I went to a hospital for food poisoning and the nurse was an NFL cheerleader. I joked to her and said “I should be sick more often” after I found out.

    • @maybelikealittlebit
      @maybelikealittlebit 6 років тому +6

      This only further lessens my empathy for them! Don’t be a cheerleader then unless you truly enjoy it! Which most of them do. I think the whole idea of cheerleaders (solely female) is super sexist anyways! Either make it just about cheering or admit it’s a sexist thing and needs reform in MANY more ways than just pay for sex appeal. What about the males and non culturally sexually appealing people. 🤷‍♀️ (I personally see the difference in watching a normal sized and average looking person cheering, because it’s about the ENERGY.)
      My .02

  • @anabelrosie1817
    @anabelrosie1817 6 років тому +15276

    What's wrong with a cheerleader being a virgin?

    • @TheSF04
      @TheSF04 6 років тому +3057

      Because they want women to be sexy and innocent but not prudes, experienced but not too experienced (slutty).
      It's an old double standard because men don't have to fear how many names they have in their black books but if a woman has too high of a number she's, "used goods"

    • @TheSF04
      @TheSF04 6 років тому +476

      @@diljot6482
      That's true. Thats why I said it's and old double standard. But you have to look at who owns/manages these teams. It's not gonna be a 20/30-year-old guy. The owners are fuck-old and they want people to meet their standards.
      (Plus I never said the girls have to be virgins. From the video it doesn't seem like they wanted her to be one. They just didn't want her to be a "slut". Then what makes her a slut. 5,10, 20? If there are rumors about her and it got back to the managers they can decide to get rid of her for it, especially if she/someone has been posting it to social media.)

    • @kaelyns6170
      @kaelyns6170 6 років тому +980

      It sounds like a sexist industry honestly. Virgins are really discrimated against these days and it shouldn't matter to people if someone wants to stay a virgin.

    • @msfred3209
      @msfred3209 6 років тому +239

      Diljot Singh and why would virgin girls f*** you? You sound utterly selfish.

    • @jasmineshelton759
      @jasmineshelton759 6 років тому +732

      Agreed, her sexual life is no one else's business but her own!

  • @laraoneal7284
    @laraoneal7284 4 роки тому +887

    They did this in the airlines also back in the late seventies. I was fired for gaining 2 pounds. I went from 110 to 112. It was shocking. They started suing the airlines in the 80s.

    • @asu_meii
      @asu_meii 3 роки тому +67

      That’s fucked up, things like airline work shouldn’t be about appearances.

    • @heatherlynsey3092
      @heatherlynsey3092 3 роки тому +51

      That’s just so horrible. Anything could’ve made you fluctuate TWO POUNDS!!! I’m sorry you even had to hear those words.

    • @Daniellasanche
      @Daniellasanche 3 роки тому +5

      ?? Highly doubt this. Lol.

    • @citytrees1752
      @citytrees1752 3 роки тому

      You are comparing flight attendants with cheerleaders?

    • @CocoAvalon
      @CocoAvalon 3 роки тому +50

      @@Daniellasanche Do some research and you'll quickly see numerous news articles and court documents backing up this type of treatment. There are tons of accounts just like this from flight attendants from that era.

  • @cd6163
    @cd6163 6 років тому +5005

    9:17 well obviously they are paid less than the players I feel like that’s kinda obvious. But getting paid less than the mascots and snack stand workers is ridiculous!!

    • @dogwalkerlindsey
      @dogwalkerlindsey 5 років тому +75

      Kermit T. Frog some teams don’t pay their cheerleaders at all

    • @theshevirgo
      @theshevirgo 5 років тому +67

      Tina Severinovna Me my cousin cheered for an NFL team her rookies year it was $75 a game hours of unpaid practice even extra events was only $150 an event m. Her family is well off tho so it wasn’t to pay her bills but something to kill time until she went and got her Masters

    • @xlovelygi
      @xlovelygi 5 років тому +3

      Wow smfh!

    • @MonicaWWW
      @MonicaWWW 5 років тому +18

      Mascots perform in a heavy, smothering suit for the entire game though

    • @annushkanoor4328
      @annushkanoor4328 5 років тому +107

      @@MonicaWWW cheerleaders wear skimpy degrading outfits and have to deal with creepy horned up dudes catcalling and staring at them. Also mascots don't have to spend hundreds on their appearance.

  • @corgi444
    @corgi444 4 роки тому +6353

    This also sounds a lot like the ballet industry. Ballet dancers are not paid as much as they deserve. Can you guys make a video exposing them?

    • @puddipuding1127
      @puddipuding1127 4 роки тому +91

      Drithi Panyam I mean it depends on the demand on who’s watching really. Can’t exactly raise pay for something that has a small demand.

    • @aloistyler
      @aloistyler 4 роки тому +102

      Puddi Puding I’m pretty sure the tens of thousands of families who flock to the ballet every year to see the nutcracker would beg to differ

    • @rachellrosas186
      @rachellrosas186 4 роки тому +164

      @@puddipuding1127 small demand? us ballet dancers dont just wear pink tutus and look pretty. Sweetie dancers like Misty Copeland are known all over the world. Dancers literally starve themselves just to get into big companies and perform on stage not even as a lead dancer. We deserve a raise on our salery because we are everything but never ''small demand''.

    • @PassionJo777
      @PassionJo777 4 роки тому +4

      And u wouldn’t do anything else for work but simply shaking my booty like I did exotic dancing 🕺 I loved it and all the attention ESPECIALLY THE BIG DOSH$$$$ $$$

    • @lauramonch3993
      @lauramonch3993 4 роки тому +20

      Not sure what the US is like, but I worked at the Dutch National Ballet and they were paid handsomely. 3 week Bali holidays, appartments in the centre of Amsterdam, etc. You could always earn more obviously, but it's nowhere near what's being shown in this video.

  • @thealleykittens
    @thealleykittens 6 років тому +6362

    $100 A GAME?! Insane. Just walk away ladies, walk away.

    • @COVID--kf3tx
      @COVID--kf3tx 6 років тому +139

      thealleykittens they probably love cheerleading

    • @maae4673
      @maae4673 6 років тому +417

      They must've spent so much more on makeup and training

    • @pyroshayniac1090
      @pyroshayniac1090 6 років тому +422

      You'd make more being a professional Disney princess. It's crazy.

    • @nanananananananana00
      @nanananananananana00 6 років тому +234

      James Bond it’s not that they’re “surviving off of attention” it’s something they’ve done their whole lives and it’s something they’re passionate about. a lot of people stay in jobs that don’t pay well because they’re passionate about it.

    • @iwant007
      @iwant007 6 років тому +19

      Exactly its there choice, if they do not like leave or someone else will do it. The less value you present its the reality of life. They love the NFL lifestyle or go to Vegas be in a show.

  • @jyhk5682
    @jyhk5682 3 роки тому +683

    Waiting for marriage is a personal decision, these are illegal questions...
    When men are in power (topless photography) this is what happens...

    • @myrtle1234
      @myrtle1234 3 роки тому +10

      The thousands of dollars which they spend on makeup, cheer classes, false eyelashes, etc. could have been spent acquiring job skills. No man them do that.

    • @tdawgt5866
      @tdawgt5866 3 роки тому

      But how does any know that’s what she’s doing unless she has talked about it openly.

    • @ggcatbelladogantics2959
      @ggcatbelladogantics2959 3 роки тому +14

      @@tdawgt5866 she may have talked with a friend and that info got back because friend divulged it. Still illegal for boss to ask.

    • @magicmath2714
      @magicmath2714 3 роки тому +3

      or you could not make it sexist and blame an entire gender. gender does not determine if someone is good or bad, or what someone does. individual character does.

    • @Saintbow
      @Saintbow 2 роки тому +2

      Let's see...Either A: She goes to school or a Tech school to get an education or learning a skill trade... or B: She dresses skimpy and shakes her ass in front of millions to gain attention and popularity.
      But hey, you keep blaming men and playing the victim card...

  • @deagalore
    @deagalore 6 років тому +10046

    They should be getting paid waaay more.. I didn’t know they weren’t really being paid. As hard as they work they should be getting way beyond minimum wage wow..

    • @deagalore
      @deagalore 6 років тому +77

      kill quick smh so unfortunate that this has been overlooked for so long!

    • @gen2886
      @gen2886 6 років тому +35

      What do they contribute to the nfl...financially?

    • @gcool6707
      @gcool6707 6 років тому +196

      gen nye a lot. I bet sales would drop if they were taken off the field. They amp up the crowd and make things more fun, while also being good for sexual appeal (sadly).

    • @jayarnalabozzetta6991
      @jayarnalabozzetta6991 6 років тому +140

      @@gen2886 they make less than mascots... They're basically the same thing and bring probably more than the mascot in terms of viewership

    • @bronzino8213
      @bronzino8213 6 років тому +21

      @@gen2886 Exactly! All this time there's been professional cheerleaders and that's all they're making? That's their fault. They should have spoke up a long time ago if they felt taken advantage of. Closed mouths don't get fed.

  • @iluvpurple2mucho
    @iluvpurple2mucho 5 років тому +7852

    $3 an hour?!?!?! 😱 that’s just criminal!

    • @hadbetterdays8118
      @hadbetterdays8118 5 років тому +245

      What kind of person would do that, to me that is slavery no proper women who would want a fair pay would get that to me it is straight up prostitution

    • @xlovelygi
      @xlovelygi 5 років тому +45

      I cant believe it smfh!!

    • @Oohnohassani
      @Oohnohassani 5 років тому +19

      that is a sin lol

    • @nighthawk326
      @nighthawk326 5 років тому +17

      Many would do it for free.

    • @krystingrant6292
      @krystingrant6292 5 років тому +49

      Exactly the cheap ass buffalo bills. Shut down the cheer squad. $50-100 an hr I read and $50 for events. Pay for travel that's ridiculous and uniform keep and sell calendars

  • @absolutetrash2246
    @absolutetrash2246 6 років тому +10743

    "Less than the players..." I mean valid
    "Less than the mascots..." Um..
    "Less than the concession stand workers." NOW HOLD ON.. ONE SECOND WHAT THE-

    • @littlekittytv7893
      @littlekittytv7893 6 років тому +699

      How is being paid less than the players valid? They're practicing and working the same amount of time AND sometimes more, and just because they're not tackling each other to the turf doesn't mean what they do isn't dangerous.

    • @lorynramage350
      @lorynramage350 6 років тому +700

      Aughbub dibub it’s because people watch sports for the players. All the views and ticket sales for sports games is because people want to see THEM. Concession stand workers contribute more than cheerleaders do.

    • @absolutetrash2246
      @absolutetrash2246 6 років тому +506

      Aughbub dibub because the players play the game. The players are the reason everyone watches. They can take away the cheerleaders and the game is still there but if you take away the players there is no game, but I see your point.

    • @arihartsfield2868
      @arihartsfield2868 6 років тому +26

      @@littlekittytv7893 I totally think they should be paid more but players cant memorize things there are so many more variables.

    • @chrisrose4769
      @chrisrose4769 6 років тому +75

      Mascots deserve more there usually in a boiling hot costume lol

  • @praptishukla6012
    @praptishukla6012 2 роки тому +97

    "it took a piece of me" that's so real. That's what happens when someone really hits on your self respect. She said it from her heart

  • @OcarinaOfBurr
    @OcarinaOfBurr 5 років тому +9778

    They should all quit the NFL and become Instagram models, bet they'd get waaaay better pay

    • @umuwashere
      @umuwashere 5 років тому +457

      Ocarina Of Burr or they could get an actual job

    • @AppleBottomJ
      @AppleBottomJ 5 років тому +14

      yep!

    • @amberchavez7231
      @amberchavez7231 5 років тому +55

      Ocarina Of Burr stripping is better

    • @kottonkandy0962
      @kottonkandy0962 5 років тому +186

      Except for the fact that most “models” never try the product and basically compulsive liars to their “fans”. Also the the fact that Instagram is just a social media plug, not a profession.

    • @princessroxas1
      @princessroxas1 5 років тому +32

      they're better than models

  • @erinbower7162
    @erinbower7162 6 років тому +5356

    So proud of that lady that stood by her morals to save herself for marriage, but that was terrible how they treated her.

    • @Redorgreenful
      @Redorgreenful 6 років тому +184

      I'm in support of people having autonomy in deciding for themselves when & if they have sex. But saving yourself for marriage isn't the same as standing by your morals. There's an implication there that people who don't save themselves or people who decide to & later reverse their decision are not behaving morally. If that's one's own personal morals for themselves that's all well and fine. But that's not some "brave decision" one's making. And tying morals to virginity is a judgment on others. And other people might not have the same belief system. They might believe having sex before marriage isn't a bad thing but a good thing. And I'm speaking a former Catholic. There's no cookie that's deserved for saving oneself. You can/should be proud for showing integrity & being true to your own belief system on when to have sex.

    • @mary-annelee3950
      @mary-annelee3950 6 років тому +378

      Redcatrobe It is apart of her morals though, morals are different for everyone because they are things that shape us whether it’s religion, society, geographical influences. I understand how you don’t care and that’s your opinion just don’t post false information saying there’s “no cookie” because in the catholic and other religions virginity is valued, might not be so much in society nowadays but religiously it is.

    • @DoctorMommy24
      @DoctorMommy24 6 років тому +79

      @@Redorgreenful I dont see any implication from her or a person's choice on waiting until marriage, youve got it twisted as THEY singled her out for it not the other way around. When making such a seemingly informed opinion it helps to keep your own biases out.

    • @samhoover284
      @samhoover284 6 років тому +56

      I agree with Mary-Anne in this thread, but I did want to mention that just because someone else is saving themselves for marriage (or abides by any other moral that you don't or didn't personally do), that doesn't make you or her or anyone better than the other. If this person is staying true to his/her personal beliefs, it doesn't affect you or make you any less of a moral or religious person. So if someone wants to wait for marriage but you don't want to wait for marriage, great! Religion and morals are very personal, in my opinion. Have a good day

    • @raeslight
      @raeslight 6 років тому +116

      It is BEYOND DISRESPECTFUL. What does her virginity have to do with her job?!!

  • @aitanasahni48
    @aitanasahni48 4 роки тому +5985

    If she wants to wait for marriage she can. Period.

  • @thomasoaxaca9771
    @thomasoaxaca9771 2 роки тому +73

    I dated a Niner Gold Rush Cheerleader for over 2 years. She was obsessed with her appearance not enjoying going out to dinner; spending every waking moment worrying about the competition, celebrating birthdays as age was a liability; and everything that would hinder her position.
    She was obsessed with maintaining her position on the squad and never enjoying even the simple things in life. This carried over into all aspects of her life including our relationship. I thought things would change, only realizing that one day would come when she would not make the squad.
    Eventually, I walked out, regretting that this beautiful human being was most definitely being used for commercial gain.
    I pray she is happy and doing well.
    I will always love you, Dawn.

  • @miyakoakita2529
    @miyakoakita2529 6 років тому +1527

    I don't know if this will get seen, but I think I should tell my experience. I was a varsity cheerleader in high school. I want to repeat, HIGH SCHOOL. We were assigned our own football player and basically became their cheer slave for the season. We had to stay up and make signs for their locker and make them food and bring them gifts and were responsible to know all about their role on the team. Not only did they have to do NOTHING for us, but they often belittled us and would tell out coaches we did a bad job in order to practically blackmail us for things (different food, homework help, just to annoy us, etc.) I remember staying up until 2 AM making cupcakes and signs and having a test the next day that the football players got an extension on, but cheerleaders didn't. We often stayed longer for practice than the football players did. I enjoyed cheering. It was a thrilling on the field, but it was NOT what is seemed.

    • @refinery29
      @refinery29  6 років тому +185

      +miyakoakita Wow, that's so crazy! Thanks for sharing with us!!

    • @applelime7693
      @applelime7693 6 років тому +18

      lololol cheer slave 😂

    • @amberstarling5896
      @amberstarling5896 6 років тому +126

      My sister's high school had this but it was for the baseball team. They were called Diamond Girls and were assigned a player. I thought it was ridiculous and was so glad my high school didn't do this.

    • @morganantoinette225
      @morganantoinette225 6 років тому +34

      My Highschool has a variation of this, but most girls got to choose their football player if I'm not mistaken. Though there was only once where the football team had to reciprocate making posters and things. The cheer team made posters all the time, for every home and away game, they were never paid or reimbursed for these posters, candy, food and other gifts to the players and it was mandatory.

    • @lct8954
      @lct8954 6 років тому +23

      Yeah where tf were your parents b/c i was a cheerleader from 7th grade until I graduated and our school stressed our grades and being role models for our communities.

  • @Harrrgh
    @Harrrgh 6 років тому +8052

    The NFL should be ashamed. Pay the ladies for their hard work.

    • @kaskahea1274
      @kaskahea1274 6 років тому +15

      Harrrgh 📍 on point!!

    • @nadia1994ization
      @nadia1994ization 6 років тому +39

      Harrrgh pay??? They are forced to take topless photos and called whores... what kind of money can make you fine with doing these shit???

    • @twilightfades_7
      @twilightfades_7 6 років тому +55

      Harrrgh Working hard? To prance around in a skirt? How inspiring. Cheerleading just needs to disappear. It is a useless job. Where is the education in cheerleading? Can you retire as a cheerleader? Cause you have to be young and hot to be a cheerleader. You'll be damned if you see a “40 year old“ cheerleader.

    • @hislord1
      @hislord1 6 років тому +64

      Nah, those women aren't the primary reason why people come to watch the game. Get rid of the cheerleaders, they're pointless.

    • @twilightfades_7
      @twilightfades_7 6 років тому +23

      hislord1 Exactly 💯 All this fuss over a job that is useless.

  • @amandae3445
    @amandae3445 6 років тому +2189

    Not only does the NFL disrespect stephen hillenburg and not play sweet victory, but they also dont know how to treat women.
    Shut em down boys.

    • @codyfernfan6274
      @codyfernfan6274 5 років тому +22

      Amanda Estevez I love how the respect and fair treatment of women throughout history is on the same par as a spongebob meme....

    • @bruh-mb1rd
      @bruh-mb1rd 5 років тому +5

      @Black Knight Fool Nice bait

    • @bruh-mb1rd
      @bruh-mb1rd 5 років тому +27

      @Black Knight Fool the fact that I saw multiple comments of yours saying that all women who comment on this are "jealous lesbians"

    • @myeverythinq8666
      @myeverythinq8666 5 років тому +15

      Black Knight Fool lol you hate lesbians but it’s okay, it’s not like they like you either. i’m sure heterosexual women don’t either

    • @elestrenstar_
      @elestrenstar_ 5 років тому +6

      Black Knight Fool boi can you stop with your ignorant comments around this comment section. You’ve already got suspended from Twitter maybe UA-cam should do the same to you. SMH

  • @katherinerussell3637
    @katherinerussell3637 3 роки тому +193

    Damn not even the NFL see cheerleading as a sport. It’s more like a sex appeal then a sport.

  • @ka.hairunisa
    @ka.hairunisa 5 років тому +7762

    Can you expose the reality of 'kpop training life' ??

    • @eeiity8600
      @eeiity8600 5 років тому +104

      Kahaa Nim, yes omg.

    • @joyeetakar7773
      @joyeetakar7773 5 років тому +57

      yes!!

    • @hihellobye8498
      @hihellobye8498 5 років тому +103

      loonasorbit thats horrible!!GWSN does not deserve that!!! And I don’t think Kpop idol training is Slave Contract or plastic surgery. Though it must be hard training for a debut that may never happen and your kept in the dungeon for a long time. You might already know this but some idols trained for 9+ years.

    • @belbenedict5389
      @belbenedict5389 5 років тому +5

      Yesss pleasee !

    • @lop2929
      @lop2929 5 років тому +3

      up

  • @willowrox01
    @willowrox01 6 років тому +6658

    the nfl really hates women my god

    • @cremadefresita
      @cremadefresita 6 років тому +29

      joy!! they’re so gay!

    • @hislord1
      @hislord1 6 років тому +101

      Lmao, the NFL doesn't hate women. They recognise that these women add nothing to the game and correctly choose not to pay them. I support the decision to scrap cheerleaders altogether. They're pointless and a distraction.

    • @hislord1
      @hislord1 6 років тому +39

      @Maip - They're attractive eye candy, it's nice to have but they add nothing of value to the game. As I said before, get rid of them today and tomorrow the same crowd will be there to watch the men play. You know why? Because those women are just nice to look at but not essential to the game. I personally support banning Cheerleaders as they add nothing of value and are a distraction.

    • @HusseyStars
      @HusseyStars 6 років тому +123

      Why is this a surprise...? Football is trash anyway.

    • @nmeyers92
      @nmeyers92 6 років тому +162

      Football cheerleaders, especially Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, have become staple in the football experience. They are just there for pure entertainment. If they are working and putting in long hours, they should get paid. It is as simple as that.

  • @kovacspistol
    @kovacspistol 5 років тому +3072

    As an artist I was horrified by the painting directly on the carpet.
    As a human I was horrified by the disrespect these women receive in their profession.

    • @pit9390
      @pit9390 4 роки тому +19

      I was LOOKING for this comment.

    • @paincreatesfame
      @paincreatesfame 4 роки тому +7

      Me too

    • @rockykl408
      @rockykl408 4 роки тому +4

      @Krystal Pistol what's wrong with the painting 😂😂😂

    • @_Https.maddie
      @_Https.maddie 4 роки тому +2

      Indeed valid points

    • @UwU5437
      @UwU5437 4 роки тому +5

      UA-cam comments like this horrifies me so much i smell toast each time

  • @2nicnag2
    @2nicnag2 10 місяців тому +8

    I was of the mindset that no one is forced to be a cheerleader so you are agreeing to whatever standards/rules they have knowingly, but then when the players are allowed to contact cheerleaders and ‘do’ whatever they want, why would the rule be set that way for the players when it’s clear the cheerleaders can’t interact with the players?? That’s when I truly realized it’s far beyond just dealing with the job details, it’s the absolute ridiculousness and clear sexism

  • @CristinaV.Quinones
    @CristinaV.Quinones 5 років тому +479

    I was a dancer for 20 years, and a cheerleader throughout school. I trained with the intention of becoming a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader in 2008, I remember submitting my info for auditions and seeing the fine print- IF I was selected I had to train through a summer bootcamp and could be “eliminated” at anytime (no pay). At that time the cheerleaders were paid $50 A GAME! I said no way and went to college. I am so sad to see things haven’t changed.

    • @serverservidor16
      @serverservidor16 3 роки тому +2

      Sorry baby

    • @foxibot
      @foxibot 3 роки тому +20

      Orlando magic wanted me to be one, I guess because I was modeling and acting and because I picked up the routines fast, but once I saw 15 bucks a game, I said helllll no! And I got angry because I couldn’t take a bathroom break during try outs ( I have a health issues and I didn’t hide that) and so I told these guys that signed us up(they were firemen) to give me my application and picture back, and they could see this Louisiana cajien wasn’t playing. The choreographer kept telling me I would get it, but I said there is a hundred girls here, and you are going to get it to thirty and then just 2! She was nice and sincere, and said I had that it factor, but I was like this is crazy, I have other ways to make good money, when I left so did most of the other girls, it gave them the courage to leave I think. The firemen said they understood and didn’t blame me but hated to see me leave. The routine was crazy hard too, and some of those girls had been taking all kinds of dance for like 14 plus years.

    • @alexnadon6999
      @alexnadon6999 2 роки тому +2

      $50 jeez, could have set up your own girl squad cheer team and made videos and youtube would have paid wayyy more money then the NFL.

    • @Kerrviii
      @Kerrviii 2 роки тому +1

      Yep, I won’t disclose which team but I used to get $150 a game in 2006!

  • @dylanwestt3469
    @dylanwestt3469 6 років тому +2946

    when nfl gets paid millions, cheerleaders get paid minimum they deserve more even if its not a ton more tbh

    • @twilightfades_7
      @twilightfades_7 6 років тому +26

      dylan westt For what? Prancing around in a skirt? Where is the education in that? That is a job that switches out women every 5 years for younger women. It is not a long lasting career. It is the most useless job I have ever heard of.

    • @cici39177
      @cici39177 6 років тому +141

      Scattered Thoughts Throwing a piece of leather and tackling people on a field? Where is the education in that? Its the most useless job I have ever seen. Why do they get paid millions? Bottom line is the NFL can AFFORD to pay these women more....cheerleading is also extremely athletic and dangerous. It is not just prancing around in a skirt. Do some research. I an not a feminist by any means but this technically is degrading and sexist...

    • @twilightfades_7
      @twilightfades_7 6 років тому +11

      Cosmetologeek Cheerleading itself is sexist

    • @twilightfades_7
      @twilightfades_7 6 років тому +4

      Cosmetologeek Sports have always been a career. Something I have no control over. 😂

    • @twilightfades_7
      @twilightfades_7 6 років тому +6

      Cosmetologeek Athletic and dangerous? Football is athletic and dangerous. What's your point?

  • @pearlsgirl2012
    @pearlsgirl2012 6 років тому +1840

    I was legit shocked when she said she only got paid barely $3 an hour!!!!! Girl how do you live!!!???!??

    • @rb2k196
      @rb2k196 6 років тому +97

      Trish Espitia not always - my sister was best friends with an NFL cheerleader while she was at college on the east coast of America. Her best friend was working two extra part-time jobs just to cover the cost of her rent and all the things she needed for the ‘glamor requirements’ (hair, nails, makeup, keeping fit etc.)

    • @raeslight
      @raeslight 6 років тому +24

      That's crazy! On top of that, she must get enough rest. Wow..

    • @refinery29
      @refinery29  6 років тому +30

      +pearlsgl2012 Same here!!

    • @quacker143
      @quacker143 6 років тому +30

      If thats the case why join at all. All that hard work for nothing at all.

    • @Junekup06
      @Junekup06 6 років тому +3

      They have to get a sponsor. XD

  • @labellav1103
    @labellav1103 7 місяців тому +40

    I just got done watching the DCC Netflix series and they are still talking about how they get paid pennies but in the same episode how they came to be and brought SO MUCH MONEY to the Dallas Cowboys who are a 9 billion dollar team! The coaches say its a privilege to be a DCC! Crazy to think they are the ones that "started it" all while setting their standard for cheerleader, yet paid dust. Sad to see.

    • @lookilookii
      @lookilookii 6 місяців тому

      I was so angry watching that! The disrepect for this hard working women is insane!

    • @Diana-yk7sp
      @Diana-yk7sp 5 місяців тому

      I will say that the DCC cheerleader director has tried to improve things for the cheerleaders over the years. They do get all of their hair visits, tanning, etc. paid for and Kelly Finglass (director) is very protective of the cheerleaders safety. Meaning she would NEVER suggest the cheerleaders go up in the stands with the fans. Each NFL team is different. But, she has no control over their salary. She can advocate for them but it's the owner that decides what they get paid. I think the overall issue across the board of ALL NFL cheerleading teams is that women deserve to be treated with respect AND to make a proper salary, etc.

  • @eva-ru6nj
    @eva-ru6nj 6 років тому +943

    They're paid less than the mascot!!! Cheerleaders put in hours of training and practice, but yet a random guy in a costume walking around gets more money per hour?

    • @evilvhs2728
      @evilvhs2728 6 років тому +17

      The mascot is the soul of the team.

    • @andaiibori7205
      @andaiibori7205 6 років тому +87

      Evil Vhs The point is over there. You missed it.

    • @theblazikenbro
      @theblazikenbro 6 років тому +18

      Most people care more about the mascot then cheerleaders that’s why some teams don’t have cheerleaders because they recognize they’re pointless

    • @bagofhotchips2585
      @bagofhotchips2585 6 років тому +47

      @@evilvhs2728 - cause so much training and hard work goes into being a mascot. Mascots are more easily replaceable than the cheerleaders are. At least we SEE Who the cheerleaders are. If they replaced a mascot who would know, or even care..

    • @Hooverpixie24
      @Hooverpixie24 6 років тому +1

      Don’t argue when you can’t even use the correct they’re*

  • @angelv5170
    @angelv5170 4 роки тому +4824

    If cheerleading went back to being a male dominated sport, they’d definitely get more respect. It’s only not taken seriously because it’s mostly female

    • @strawberrypez2938
      @strawberrypez2938 4 роки тому +153

      I agree with you, although with the machismo outlook of the NFL, men will probably never be cheerleaders again. I'm glad these women are standing up with their convictions. I think a movement is needed to completely turn this around: ALL NFL cheerleaders need to strike, together, and not one NFL cheerleader in the country should show up to cheer until they get what they deserve.

    • @kerenkares6109
      @kerenkares6109 4 роки тому +65

      Yep more respect and paid waaaaay more money 🤕🤕

    • @UwU5437
      @UwU5437 4 роки тому +24

      Based on what? Did you conduct interviews, made simulations? Gathered stats? Are you Nostradamus?

    • @doctorwholover1012
      @doctorwholover1012 4 роки тому +151

      @@UwU5437 based on the history of female dominated careers becoming more lucrative when men begin to take over, I'm guessing? Like, nursing, computing (female first, then men took over), biology (which was male dominated but is now becoming female dominated and thus, lowering pay and respect) etc? You could talk about how in Victorian times it was the mother/wife's/women's responsibility to prepare and deal with the family's dead, and then male undertakers took over and monetized it into a billion dollar, abusive business?
      Like, did you actually take 30 mins to look up the topic and investigate it, or did you go off your 'gut instinct', like "i'd know about this if it were true, and because I haven't heard this before it must be wrong" ?
      The first thing anyone should do when given a piece of information that opposes the standard is research before response, c'mon. You got the whole internet on your phone, you can't look something up ? 😅

    • @AllAdaeze
      @AllAdaeze 4 роки тому +6

      it was never male dominated what are you talking about

  • @angelwild9145
    @angelwild9145 6 років тому +1710

    It’s not right to disrespect, humiliate, and degrade these hardworking women. Cheerleading is a JOB. Pay these professional, beautiful, and talented individuals a fair wage and treat them like human beings!! I’m glad that these ladies are taking their power back and going after these BULLYING sexist, misogynistic, and oppressive bastards!!

    • @bear1more287
      @bear1more287 5 років тому +4

      Angel Wild ,maybe they should have a Union

    • @krizziacelestino5985
      @krizziacelestino5985 5 років тому +5

      @Black Knight Fool what????

    • @user-kx9xl2km5o
      @user-kx9xl2km5o 5 років тому +3

      @Black Knight Fool quick question do you have reddit

    • @mikejackson7881
      @mikejackson7881 5 років тому +3

      Lmao...uhhhhh no try again loser its peo ppl e voicing their opinion that people like you try to shut down by name calling gtfoh🤣

    • @elijahschemel9745
      @elijahschemel9745 5 років тому +1

      It’s all lesibos down here any nfl player could do there job if they get training Ned the same way

  • @jelenalazarevic6897
    @jelenalazarevic6897 4 роки тому +50

    The fact these women are expected to train as pro-athletes and look like supermodels only to be treated like the lowest of the low is beyond disgusting. The sheer humiliation mixed with the fact they don't even earn a minimum wage. That in itself is a scandal.
    On a random note, Kristen's hair is absolutely gorgeous and I hope she's doing well in life.

  • @megh9263
    @megh9263 6 років тому +3180

    I am blown away these women are only making approximately $3 an hr. I always assumed they made bank. They are performers/entertainers. W/ their looks & physique they could certainly be doing something more lucrative. It sucks they're trying to live out their passions/dreams & made to feel so disposable. Esp. when these women literally train for years to make the cut @ auditions. It absolutely ripped my ❤ out hearing that girl was being discriminated against for her values. I'm not gonna say they should be awarded 200k a yr like others but the NFL is not hurting in the money department. As a straight woman, seeing the cheerleaders is one of my favorite parts of going to games haha! They bring life, beauty, & fun to the games. And they are entertaining! They should be given a justifiable salary respectable of all their efforts to serve their team.

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 6 років тому +26

      No one gives a fuck about the cheerleaders. If the girls want to make more money then they can easily quit.
      The thing is though, the NFL can easily find another girl to take their place. Nfl cheerleaders are a joke and have very little value to the franchises.
      A few nfl teams don't even have cheerleaders. They deserve to be paid what they are getting because at the end of the day NOT one fan buys a ticket to watch them perform

    • @jasmineshelton759
      @jasmineshelton759 6 років тому +56

      They'd be better off as exotic dancers and gogo girls... not saying there is anything wrong with either profession nor am I saying that they should do that instead, I'm just pointing out the complete bullshit these pimp ass mangers are pulling on these young women.

    • @leighsimmons4520
      @leighsimmons4520 6 років тому +26

      Wait that’s less than a babysitters pay

    • @Brea890
      @Brea890 6 років тому +97

      So much hostility in these replies 😞 I agree with the original comment. Being an entertainer or athlete of any kind takes so much skill and dedication - it consumes your life just to get to the pro level, and then it IS your life. To be making $3/hr for that level of dedication is a joke especially when people can barely get by on minimum wage.
      I love cheerleading and couldn't care less about the actual games 😂 watching these girls dance is incredible and so fun!

    • @caitfoster570
      @caitfoster570 6 років тому +1

      wdym as a straight woman

  • @angelinaasmr6085
    @angelinaasmr6085 4 роки тому +1543

    Even in HS cheer, we are told that we are "less important" than the basketball players, and that we should just accept that it is part of being a cheerleader. And in my school, we had to follow strict rules about our appearances, social engagements and social media. Even my friends on the basketball team started to notice all the things we were expected to do and the rules we had to follow. The need for a perfect image was getting out of hand.

    • @sewlfn
      @sewlfn 4 роки тому +69

      yeah cheerleaders are much less important for the overall game but the rest of that is horrible

    • @d0giem
      @d0giem 4 роки тому +15

      people don't come out for the cheer as much as the game, go on dancing with the stars.

    • @sgsportgirl
      @sgsportgirl 4 роки тому +120

      Chris Breezy They still don’t deserve to be treated like shit. Either treat them like human beings or don’t have a cheer team at all

    • @Frozo-nt2ky
      @Frozo-nt2ky 4 роки тому +18

      the only thing i dont agree about is that cheerleaders definently arent more important than the basketball players

    • @sewlfn
      @sewlfn 4 роки тому +33

      @@Frozo-nt2ky yeah lmao, cheerleaders are there to "cheer them on" you obviously arent more important then the basketball players

  • @stan_dinghere
    @stan_dinghere 5 років тому +2597

    this girl painting with acrylics on new carpet is giving me anxietyyyyyyyyyyyy

    • @maccart67
      @maccart67 5 років тому +24

      I know, was thinking same thing.

    • @katrinaa980
      @katrinaa980 5 років тому +36

      that's all I was able to think about for the rest of the video, what a brave soul.

    • @lynnmahan154
      @lynnmahan154 5 років тому +2

      Me too!!!!

    • @inkcruz4075
      @inkcruz4075 5 років тому +2

      Ikr lmao

    • @lynnmahan154
      @lynnmahan154 5 років тому +3

      @@angelicasysnila5476 no, no it's not! 😉

  • @nicolefranklin1752
    @nicolefranklin1752 2 роки тому +17

    One of my middle school gym teachers was a New England Patriot's Cheerleader for a few years. She ultimately loved it because it was her passion, but they were significantly underpaid and had to abide by the most absurd rules regarding the players. All of the cheerleaders had other high ranking jobs such as doctors, professors, etc they were working full time in addition to cheerleading. They deserve more!

  • @itbefufu
    @itbefufu 5 років тому +1731

    NFL doesn't even care for their football players hence the reason why Rihanna, Cardi B, and Beyonce refuse to perform at their half time show during the superbowl. It takes one person to make a movement, props to her.

    • @AlejandraPerez-sv3tr
      @AlejandraPerez-sv3tr 5 років тому +109

      Dear Fufu, Beyonce recently performed the half time show

    • @kaylabey
      @kaylabey 5 років тому +41

      Alejandra Perez - that was before the ck incident

    • @josh70812
      @josh70812 4 роки тому +25

      Kayla Bey cardi b was in super bowl commercials and perform at a super bowl event

    • @havefun582
      @havefun582 4 роки тому +6

      Business and life will still go on even after the performance skip outs, I understand the agenda. The NFL is too powerful for boycotts.

    • @detenebrisvenio7610
      @detenebrisvenio7610 4 роки тому +1

      Hey so what exactly happened that made them not want to perform I'm a little late on this

  • @olaffromfrozen1892
    @olaffromfrozen1892 5 років тому +886

    I would watch the NFL games with my friends and family, and when seeing the cheerleaders perform, I would think, " Wow! They're really good! They must make alot of money cheerleading!". But holy shit did my perspective change. These cheerleaders are going through mental abuse, and are getting way than less than I thought. How is $100 per game even sustainable?!

    • @espem88
      @espem88 5 років тому +1

      Olaf From Frozen I’m sure those were exactly your thoughts when you saw them. 😂

    • @olaffromfrozen1892
      @olaffromfrozen1892 5 років тому +1

      @@espem88 As in when I watched NFL or this video?

    • @jimzecca3961
      @jimzecca3961 4 роки тому +4

      A game is about three hours long. $100/game is over $30/hour.

    • @techtunetales
      @techtunetales 4 роки тому +3

      Even in IPL india cheerleaders got paid 250$ in 2008 😂

    • @grandcanyon2
      @grandcanyon2 4 роки тому +1

      @@jimzecca3961 and they only come out mostly during half time for 10 minutes. since that women sued now they get payed 2750- 2920 a game.

  • @lydia.cobain
    @lydia.cobain 6 років тому +1974

    Cheerleading needs to firstly be recognized as a real sport, and it's NOT. Which I think is a big problem. Much like a pro football player who has been working their entire life every day excercising, practicing, completing, for their sport, these cheerleaders do the same for their sport. And on top of that, they are PROFESSIONAL cheerleaders. The best of the best. Their salaries should match that.

    • @parisin45
      @parisin45 5 років тому +41

      Lydia Van Sant
      Allstar Cheer is very much a sport, however, this is equivalent to sideline cheer, with a little more acro. I don’t think this type of cheer qualifies as a sport. Especially because they are cheering for a sport.

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence 5 років тому +1

      Good point

    • @irrelevance3859
      @irrelevance3859 5 років тому +18

      It's really not a sport. I say it's a genre of dance like ballet, hiphop, ect.

    • @rubyblack6682
      @rubyblack6682 5 років тому +16

      @@irrelevance3859 nope, it's a sport. You try it and then try to tell me it's not.

    • @irrelevance3859
      @irrelevance3859 5 років тому +22

      @@rubyblack6682 I've tried it before. I know it requires a lot of endurance and resilience ect. But it's more choreography and preforming versus game. Just because it's a genre of dance doesn't mean it's any less than sport or any easier. Ballet is a genre of dance but anyone with a head knows it's ridiculously difficult and competitive nevertheless, requires a lot of training from a young age, skill and flexibility similar to cheer but that doesn't just make it sport

  • @taylormelton3088
    @taylormelton3088 6 місяців тому +5

    As a former cheerleader myself who did high school and college cheerleading, it was a dream of mine to be an NFL cheerleader. I’m glad I gave that up after college. Yikes. How awful these girls are treated.

  • @kileykocian
    @kileykocian 4 роки тому +737

    “Being replaceable” is a concept in every sport. For a lot of people it’s motivation to work harder. But with everything else piled up on top of that, for these girls, it’s just traumatizing.

    • @michellelaroche2189
      @michellelaroche2189 4 роки тому +8

      I tend to agree but an elite athlete in any sport is irreplaceable. Look at football players--there are some who are well liked and the management will do all it can to hold onto those players. Same should go for dancers, cheerleaders, etc...

    • @thereader6371
      @thereader6371 4 роки тому +7

      @@michellelaroche2189 Why? They don't provide the same value to the team, do they now?

    • @michellelaroche2189
      @michellelaroche2189 4 роки тому +6

      @@thereader6371 I feel like cheerleaders who have a strong dance background, are able to pick up choreography quickly, understand the game and are good ambassadors for their team are hard to come by--just as it is hard to find a quarterback who can find an open receiver and throw the ball to the numbers every time, while avoiding getting sacked.
      Yes, they are replaceable but the top notch ones are not easily replaced.

    • @michellelaroche2189
      @michellelaroche2189 3 роки тому +6

      @Julius Ashcroft Disagree (and I don’t even care for cheerleading, lol.)
      But I will say this-some do know bigger tricks or stunts. This is usually more apparent at the collegiate or competition levels.
      The fact is that to be able to dance well, pick up choreography quickly, have good flexibility and the skills to be able to intelligently market your team is quite unique. There’s usually an extensive selection process. These girls have to maintain their body weight within +or- 5 lbs of their ideal body weight. It’s not as easy as it sounds

    • @thereader6371
      @thereader6371 3 роки тому +8

      @@michellelaroche2189 But that's the thing though, the people who are the core audience of these sports leagues, they don't care about what skills these girls might have, all they care about is staring at a bunch of girls in skimpy outfits while they don't have anything more interesting to look at, which is, in this scenario, the game itself, so they indeed can be easily replaced by any other random pretty face.

  • @netposerx
    @netposerx 6 років тому +2470

    Another reason not to support the NFL.

    • @paulfernando6282
      @paulfernando6282 6 років тому

      net poser SUPPORT CHELSEA FC

    • @jlivb
      @jlivb 6 років тому +2

      net poser thank you👏🏾👏🏾

    • @patrioticeagle577
      @patrioticeagle577 6 років тому +12

      But the women that were in the cheerleading chose to do cheerleading and be the part of NFL
      It's not like NFL kidnap them women and fucking rape them and put them at gun point then force them to be in cheerleaing telling them to suck every fucking employee in the god damn game and have the guys GO Balls deep in them sweet walls but like
      Reality check man

    • @patrioticeagle577
      @patrioticeagle577 6 років тому +7

      Blame the women that chose to be in the cheerleading and the women that wanted to be a part of the NFL cheerleading team or whatever

    • @patrioticeagle577
      @patrioticeagle577 6 років тому +4

      I'll drop the mic from here

  • @AesthetixVB
    @AesthetixVB 5 років тому +657

    Minimum wage?? Yet they train and have to maintain a strict standard? what the actual.

    • @hadbetterdays8118
      @hadbetterdays8118 4 роки тому +14

      Less than minimum way 3 dollars an hour.

    • @AesthetixVB
      @AesthetixVB 4 роки тому +8

      @@mathieumansire372 Lol, stop acting all high and mighty old man, you act like nobody should fight for a fair wage and that flipping burgers is too hard for those girls to do.

    • @AesthetixVB
      @AesthetixVB 4 роки тому +4

      @@mathieumansire372 You're right, a lot of people do have it worse, and maybe some light should be shed on that too but I don't know what's the point in using that as an excuse to deny someone else's problems. How do you know how much they're being paid, are you a professional cheerleader with the required athletic skill to be like them? If not, then I think you're being a little presumptuous about what these girls are actaully going through.

    • @mathieumansire372
      @mathieumansire372 4 роки тому +1

      @@AesthetixVB im pretty sure they earn Waaay more than 100$ dollar a match , these girls have many fans and probably many "gifts" and donations

    • @mathieumansire372
      @mathieumansire372 4 роки тому +3

      @@AesthetixVB these girls have it GOOD , I find it offensive these priviledged lil brats complain while people are starving of hunger on the corner down the street nearby...sorry
      no compassion or empathy from me on this point , they could find a better job that pays more if they dont like it , litterraly 1000s of girls want to be a cheerleader therefore they are replacable and thier service value isnt crazy high .....they dance , they dont save lives or feed people or build anything

  • @toniroberts8117
    @toniroberts8117 3 роки тому +8

    I was a cheerleader from 7th grade in junior high though highschool.
    I loved it a lot but I remember things changed most when I tried out for college cheerleading.
    To be a college cheerleader was a whole new world. For one, you had to be enrolled as a full time student. What’s cool is that if your a cheerleader, you get a full paid scholarship.
    I remember tryouts were absolute torture. By the 4th day I was so sore I could barely move.
    I also remember how strict it was. During tryouts, I weighed about 125 pounds (I’m 5”3) and they measured my fat/skin and I was on probation right away to lose weight. Pretty crazy since I was about a size 5 at the time and certainly didn’t think I was overweight.
    They measured our fitness level like I’ve never seen before.
    As far as general appearance I didn’t have it hard but a couple of the other girls weren’t all that feminine looking, thy were more athletic and I know they got flicked crap about that.
    Also even since high school we did have strict social rules. Any time in uniform you represent the team and their is lots of rules. No smoking, cussing, and are watched pretty close. Of course your grades need to also be at least a 3.0 (B average) or higher.

  • @Urban_Piggy
    @Urban_Piggy 6 років тому +631

    “Let’s talk about your vow to wait for marriage”
    “See ya!”

    • @cmiller1164
      @cmiller1164 5 років тому

      exactly - I like the way u think Magan... Pleather Underwear.. or no underwear?.. whatever you want to wear is fine with me

  • @noraa.616
    @noraa.616 6 років тому +1151

    *Honestly, they’re better off just accepting to be cheerleaders for female teams in all kinds of sports, and refusing to cheer for any male team, until the officials who own the male teams’ paychecks start to have the self-respect to pay the cheerleaders well, and treat them well. Bonus point: more people will watch the female teams in all kinds of sports*

    • @rasianbray3977
      @rasianbray3977 6 років тому +51

      Good point but let's not act like women can't harass other women, the harassment if any, would be minute compare to what male players give

    • @skrittle555
      @skrittle555 6 років тому +62

      m e l a n i n agreed! harassment, particularly sexual harassment, is based on the manipulation of a power differential, not just gender differences. also, there is the stigma that women "can't be predators" which may contribute to under-reporting harassment perpetrated by women. we just don't know the stats if they're not reported. personally, i think this is a larger issue about the cheerleaders not being taken seriously as professionals and undermining their power. this does definitely seem to be gender-based though, because sexualizing them was seen as more "lucrative."

    • @sarahbarabe8470
      @sarahbarabe8470 6 років тому +1

      If only

    • @montielovesyouu
      @montielovesyouu 6 років тому +26

      Also female players are fighting for better pay. They make zip compared to most Male teams. If they lose a game, they make so much less oncr again.

    • @125loopy
      @125loopy 6 років тому +14

      Actually, that last sentence is untrue. Very few people watch women's sports. Men's teams are paid much more because they get a shit ton of advertisers and fans. It's crazy how they treat these cheerleaders, though.

  • @victoriabardsley8097
    @victoriabardsley8097 6 років тому +1401

    The ladies that make up the NFL cheerleading squads are hard working, talented women who deserve to not only be paid fairly for their time, they deserve to be treated with respect!

    • @codypolar6593
      @codypolar6593 6 років тому +15

      @Victoria I'd say $3 an hour is about right then. Do something that contributes to society and you should get paid. Getting put in the spotlight to fulfill your need for attention is called a hobby not a job.

    • @MonicaJNYC
      @MonicaJNYC 6 років тому +6

      respect is something that's earned...if you act like a bimbo....

    • @kathymyers7279
      @kathymyers7279 6 років тому +2

      Sorry, as a woman, cant respect that.

    • @outdoor07
      @outdoor07 6 років тому +4

      Respect yes - "deserve pay", no.

    • @ailish2284
      @ailish2284 6 років тому +9

      Cody Polar so what do football players contribute to society

  • @a.christianhansen6115
    @a.christianhansen6115 3 роки тому +11

    This is fantastic that these women are coming forward and telling what is going on behind the scenes of a cheerleader God bless them

  • @JuliaMarieH
    @JuliaMarieH 4 роки тому +1127

    I don’t expect them to make nearly as much as the players, but this is ridiculous. They deserve better

    • @space-nl7cw
      @space-nl7cw 3 роки тому +65

      Dude, i could work at Dunkin’ Donuts and be payed more.

    • @kcoker9189
      @kcoker9189 3 роки тому +35

      I mean I don't see the players doing gymnastic flips and even moving as much as the cheerleaders lol. Plays are what, 30 seconds long? Then a minute or more break until the next play? They don't need to be paid that much in any universe

    • @aaroncummings2613
      @aaroncummings2613 3 роки тому +7

      @@kcoker9189 but they are...its the owners money negotiated with the players. Maybe Cheerleaders need agents too? Possibly a draft to pick the best to help the team win and bring in more fans?

    • @johnv5156
      @johnv5156 3 роки тому +4

      They deserve EXACTLY what they are able to negotiate and not a penny more. I was a musician in college that made crap money. I remember feeling entitled to more money, however, I quickly realized our band could quickly be replaced with someone willing to take a lower payout.

    • @ChristianOne
      @ChristianOne 3 роки тому +8

      Your comment doesn't consider that both the men AND women are ATHLETES of the highest caliber. The men throw a ball, the girls do splits and flips...I think they DO deserve equal pay and the men and women could BOTH dress in skimpy clothes or BOTH cover up. It is sooooo sexist the way it is. At $3. an hour, that does't cover the cost of their hair extentions, let alone rent.
      The women getting less than minimum wage while the guys get millions is absurd. Pay them all a great livable wage, or pay them all millions but the vast pay gap is RIDICULOUS. Women are way underselling themselves by agreeing to this nonsense.

  • @genwilson7741
    @genwilson7741 4 роки тому +900

    $100 per game?! That’s literally one good hair style! Smh...

    • @bobsingh5521
      @bobsingh5521 4 роки тому +6

      I’m sure the sugar daddy players/owners take care of the rest

    • @Enigmaticharm
      @Enigmaticharm 4 роки тому +119

      @@bobsingh5521 found the incel

    • @Enigmaticharm
      @Enigmaticharm 3 роки тому +17

      @A J no? I mean some are but most are pretty ok

    • @bobsingh5521
      @bobsingh5521 3 роки тому +2

      @@Enigmaticharm
      Explain this millennium language?

    • @minecraftsteve6997
      @minecraftsteve6997 3 роки тому

      @@Enigmaticharm no, all weebs are ugly including you,

  • @frankie1012
    @frankie1012 5 років тому +608

    I wouldn’t say raising their pay to minimum wage is a “win” against the NFL. What a joke!!!

    • @Robin-of2jt
      @Robin-of2jt 5 років тому +33

      I definitely don't think its fair compensation but I think its valid to call it a win in the small step from

    • @aflower6955
      @aflower6955 3 роки тому +3

      They deserve dollar 20/hour. Just look how much pain they have to go through!

  • @staceypennington919
    @staceypennington919 2 роки тому +4

    I'd LOVE to see more about this. While having full time jobs, they are expected to do so much. They don't get the respect they need nor the money.

  • @emmanuellezhang
    @emmanuellezhang 6 років тому +396

    the lawyer is the real mvp

    • @MiamiPush2theLimit
      @MiamiPush2theLimit 6 років тому

      Emmanuelle Zhang no one forced them to become cheerleaders.

    • @stephenhirt1883
      @stephenhirt1883 6 років тому

      The lawyer just wants to win for a big payoff. I don't think she cares at all.

    • @asmitaghorai7332
      @asmitaghorai7332 2 роки тому

      @@stephenhirt1883 Neither do you.

  • @alexandriasimpson195
    @alexandriasimpson195 6 років тому +673

    Was anybody else anxious when she was painting on the carpet

    • @jaebird789
      @jaebird789 6 років тому +4

      alexandria simpson YES!

    • @yeshiregalado3182
      @yeshiregalado3182 6 років тому +16

      alexandria simpson right? Like u really not gonna place a newspaper down sis ???

    • @pocopepotivio9679
      @pocopepotivio9679 6 років тому +2

      Kristine is cool she graduated from my highschool and I actually know her she's very careful about stuff like that lol 😂

    • @kelseycoca
      @kelseycoca 6 років тому +1

      Yes!

    • @plusgirlbworld
      @plusgirlbworld 6 років тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing, something wrong with me lolll I’m like well you gonna have to clean it or it might get ruined

  • @datadoesdorian
    @datadoesdorian 4 роки тому +2618

    Honestly I feel that football players are paid way too much for what they do.
    Not saying that what they do doesn't have value in society but at the end of the day they are running around catching a ball and hitting each other. They don't need to be paid millions for that.

    • @filipaalmeida280
      @filipaalmeida280 4 роки тому +91

      Best comment ever!!!!

    • @agricolaregs
      @agricolaregs 4 роки тому +113

      For what they go through with their bodies and the little length of career, I disagree.

    • @datadoesdorian
      @datadoesdorian 4 роки тому +259

      @@agricolaregs fair. But it's voluntary battery of their own bodies for something largely unnecessary.

    • @aloistyler
      @aloistyler 4 роки тому +53

      agricolaregs they signed up to play that sport so that is their own stupidity and greed getting in their way

    • @jeanakatherine9369
      @jeanakatherine9369 4 роки тому +169

      agricolaregs What about construction workers with bad backs & red headed roofers that are scared of heights...teachers that hv to put up with other people’s kids all day, waitresses that feet hurt, secretary with carpal tunnel...these jobs are important & peoplew/chronic illness & pain still hv to go

  • @marieindia8116
    @marieindia8116 3 роки тому +4

    The bad association and exploitation were main reasons I never considered starting cheerleading in school. However it is an art, much like chorus dancers, and this world usually punishes artists and dreamers, unless they can profit from them.

  • @clementine1827
    @clementine1827 5 років тому +267

    I knew it was messed up but this disgusts me. Especially the part of them being forced to pose topless. I can’t help but cry.

    • @johninokla2635
      @johninokla2635 4 роки тому +9

      Especially the married ones and yes at one time there could be married cheerleaders.

    • @STMARTIN009
      @STMARTIN009 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah that screams sexual harassment. There should be lawyers tackling that issue. Pun intended

  • @only1adrienne
    @only1adrienne 5 років тому +425

    Every bit of this is true. When I cheered for the Cincinnati Bengals we made $50/game and definitely had to pay for everything else ourselves. The only thing the team pays for is the uniform and the boots. On top looking like models 24/7, we had the anxiety of weigh-ins twice a week. If you didn’t make weight you couldn’t cheer. I was told that at 5’2 and 127lbs I was 10lbs overweight and was benched until I lost it. Took me years to get over my obsession with the scale. We were paraded around the owner’s rich friends and sponsors like high class escorts expecting to please when one of them chose us. It was humiliating. I cried when I heard what happened to the Redskins girls. I knew they weren’t lying.

    • @leethiel1769
      @leethiel1769 4 роки тому +12

      And yet you still performed

    • @mygoatisdead
      @mygoatisdead 4 роки тому +61

      @@leethiel1769 Try not to be selfish and to get around the concept that people sometimes need to be protected. Are you Libertarian? Seems like it.

    • @maximostiberius2324
      @maximostiberius2324 3 роки тому +6

      You chose this. You chose to be paraded before the owners rich friends. Yet you chose to stay. I have no sympathy for someone who allows themselves to be used. You had an ego that you needed stroked. If you were an accountant with complaints I'd back you 100%

    • @maximostiberius2324
      @maximostiberius2324 3 роки тому +4

      @@mygoatisdead protected from who? Themselves? These girls accepted the pay and all the obtrusive guidelines. Yet they like being a part of the big picture. I have no sympathy for them at all.

    • @peterfus9543
      @peterfus9543 3 роки тому

      Yah ok you can leave one is telling you you need to stay and is a crime to leave people now the risk yet they still join and then complaine adout it my dad worked on warehouse roofing this young male fell he had a kid and a wife i think he drinked or not and fell went to the hosptial and the only thing kept him alive was machines they unpluged the machines there was no way he could surivie he lost his life at the age of 21-30 he newe the risk but went on with the jod he did not need to he could of quit. He had a wife and a kid and he had sow much to live for.

  • @gahyeonlvr7501
    @gahyeonlvr7501 5 років тому +503

    I did competitive competition cheerleading for about 5-6 years. It’s hard. People like to downplay cheerleading being a sport but it’s not easy. You have to work for years to be flexible and constantly work out to stay fit. You have to be ready for performances and practice until odd hours of the night. You gotta pay for your makeup, uniforms, hair and travel expenses (we sometimes had to go out of state!) not to mention that to be on the squad I was on, it costed literal thousands of dollars a year just to be a member and auditioning was hard as well.
    I know that NFL cheerleading is similar to competitive cheering, so I KNOW these women work hard. The NFL sees women as disposable objects. It’s sick.

    • @MissMoontree
      @MissMoontree 5 років тому +28

      I used to be an edgy teen, disrespectful to the sport. But, as an adult, I can see the effort they put in and the skill it takes.
      I also once had to cheer for my frat/sorority and that was hard work. Aside from hard work, a guy lost his balance when I was upside down on his shoulder, and I fell hard. Bruises all over. Cheerleading takes guts, that I don't have anymore :')
      Srsly, respect to those women!

    • @gahyeonlvr7501
      @gahyeonlvr7501 5 років тому +16

      MissMoontree I was a flyer and also a base during stunts. Falling happens a lot. Our gym had squishy floors for safety but it still hurt. I remember once I fell about 4 times. Everything was sore and I had bruises everywhere. I remember we won a competition with that routine though :)

    • @candieland4276
      @candieland4276 4 роки тому

      "Costed"??? 😆
      Yep, you were definitely a cheerleader...

    • @candieland4276
      @candieland4276 4 роки тому +3

      @Lesbian Amazon Sister grammarist.com/usage/costed/
      Not in that usage it is NOT. it is improper 100% to say "it costed me..." omigod. I can't believe I'm having to explain this. Really!? Read. Educate yourself. Clearly you need it🙄
      This conversation has done 'costed' me my sanity😉

    • @Julia-lk8jn
      @Julia-lk8jn 4 роки тому +3

      Paying the travel for working out of state? That is bloody crazy. Especially for something like a hundred dollar a game.
      And anybody who says cheerleading isn't a sport: grab yourself a random cheerleader training video and do it for one hour.

  • @bharathsf
    @bharathsf 4 роки тому +11

    It's not a surprise but saddening. I mean they're treated that way. Lot of misconception too because of cheerleaders are portrayed in movies and television shows. I am 100percent sure, those cheerleaders have a million times more personality than I can even dream to have but the way they are shown is sometimes really sad

  • @Feliciatanktop
    @Feliciatanktop 6 років тому +883

    They should all quit, like a protest. Let’s see what happens when cheerleaders are no longer at the games

    • @ebonih7138
      @ebonih7138 6 років тому +238

      I feel like no one would care

    • @karmicobsession1636
      @karmicobsession1636 6 років тому +62

      the team in my state doesn't have cheerleaders they do just fine.

    • @Feliciatanktop
      @Feliciatanktop 6 років тому +121

      Maybe they should just end cheerleading in sports all together. Just do competitions, like dancers. It’s not worth it to get treated like crap, paid very little, and still seen as sideline entertainment

    • @jamalwoods9649
      @jamalwoods9649 6 років тому +37

      I know for a fact I wouldn't give a shit.

    • @yuppitsarah
      @yuppitsarah 6 років тому +35

      I wouldn't even care lol I watch games on tv during the season, a cheerleader is on camera for just a few seconds. I even went to a couple games, didn't even notice the cheerleaders lol they don't make the football game, the players do. and the food! xD
      Cheerleaders are gorgeous. but ive always wondered why they have them for football. no one really takes notice. the actual game is more important to everyone. as its what everyone payed for.

  • @gdlywom
    @gdlywom 4 роки тому +371

    This is why businesses love hiring the super young. They don’t yet know that they’re not supposed to be treated like that, that there are laws in place to protect them, and they should stand up for themselves, regardless of the “cost” in the long run. In other words, young people don’t yet know their worth.

    • @AllThingsAniyah
      @AllThingsAniyah 3 роки тому +2

      No they definitely do. Some teams are pretty upfront. So many teams say you have to have a full time job, a family or be a part time job in order to join the team. It definitely sucks but the laws don’t 100% apply because of certain contacts if that makes sense

    • @marieindia8116
      @marieindia8116 3 роки тому +3

      Ditto for the military.

  • @gurifiel
    @gurifiel 4 роки тому +916

    This is straight up abuse “your voice didn’t matter” that’s just-

    • @christianolange6950
      @christianolange6950 4 роки тому +5

      Think about it Waterboys make more

    • @STMARTIN009
      @STMARTIN009 4 роки тому +5

      @@christianolange6950 a worker at McDonald's makes more

    • @space-nl7cw
      @space-nl7cw 3 роки тому

      Still, some people pay to watch the cheer and most athletes do better with cheer. If there is no cheer, some athletes wont play better. those players are also what people payed for.

    • @gurifiel
      @gurifiel 3 роки тому +6

      @@space-nl7cw True, but it’s not fair to say “your voice doesn’t matter” that’s just saying “what you think doesn’t matter”. Nobody should have to hear someone say that

    • @jimmydelaney4754
      @jimmydelaney4754 3 роки тому

      I'm sorry, did she say something?

  • @NJGuy1973
    @NJGuy1973 Рік тому +1

    If a Saints cheerleader is eating at a restaurant, and a player comes in, she has to leave.

  • @lesethdavis4889
    @lesethdavis4889 6 років тому +516

    All cheerleaders should tell the world about THIS and noone should take these lovely women for granted
    Edit: Thanks for 346 likes

    • @darcey6392
      @darcey6392 6 років тому +1

      I've heard so many Dallas Cowboys fans say the only good thing about the team all season was the cheerleaders! I swear if they lost those girls they would lose SO much money

    • @lesethdavis4889
      @lesethdavis4889 6 років тому

      @@darcey6392 I know they don't respect these beautiful women!

    • @theblazikenbro
      @theblazikenbro 6 років тому

      sardonic boi ur dumb

    • @sloebone7399
      @sloebone7399 6 років тому

      Yes it’s high on the world problems list. And to whoever said the Cowboys would lose money, not a chance. Nobody goes to the game to see the cheerleaders.

  • @hayleighbishop-sweeney128
    @hayleighbishop-sweeney128 6 років тому +631

    uuuh They should be making AT LEAST $50, 000 a year. You don't go through all those years of training and hard work to be paid less than or minimum wage, they can be a server or a retail worker if they wanted to do something that paid them minimum wage. Being a chearleader is ridiculously hard work, and it's absolutely a sport

    • @refinery29
      @refinery29  6 років тому +13

      +hayleighbishop-sweeney We think so, too!

    • @bluebird4902
      @bluebird4902 6 років тому +10

      I think you are over estimating the worth.

    • @KALAPANAPOCHIHANALEI
      @KALAPANAPOCHIHANALEI 6 років тому +6

      I agree! It's like any professional athlete!

    • @hayleighbishop-sweeney128
      @hayleighbishop-sweeney128 6 років тому +7

      If we value other athletes for tens of thousands of dollars to millions why is it different to an athlete literally nearly every school in north america has?

    • @saraheells1725
      @saraheells1725 6 років тому +5

      Nah they dont log as much field time during a game, but the calendars they sell and appearances more than compensates for that money. The players get millions and the cheerleaders are pro athletes. They trained their entire lives, and probably harder.

  • @josephchang9480
    @josephchang9480 6 років тому +2607

    This is basically the kpop industry though nobody likes to admit it.

    • @amberchavez7231
      @amberchavez7231 5 років тому +37

      Joseph Chang not really they got caught secretly filming woman n posting them having sex ... so cheerleaders film football players and post their tiny dicks due to roids ?? Not so much

    • @pratikshagurung5628
      @pratikshagurung5628 5 років тому +143

      But in K-pop they pay for their school, dorm, food so they pay back by the money they make

    • @princess-qp3iw
      @princess-qp3iw 5 років тому +109

      @@pratikshagurung5628 I've read somewhere that you will have to pay all the expenses of years and years of training that the company gave you (most likely using the money you gain when you debut) but the problem is that apparently this can cause K-Pop idols to be in serious debt to their company. One girl group got their first pay after 2 years of debuting because they had to pay for that debt... I also read somewhere that companies like the big 3 actually removed this policy (?). I'm not sure if any of this is correct tho...

    • @pratikshagurung5628
      @pratikshagurung5628 5 років тому +3

      @@princess-qp3iw that's literally what I meant

    • @princess-qp3iw
      @princess-qp3iw 5 років тому +9

      @@pratikshagurung5628 okay...? The reason why I replied is because you missed some parts...

  • @jonnarobinson7541
    @jonnarobinson7541 Рік тому +1

    They are told that cheerleading is not to be looked at as a full-time position. Most teams require that they either go to school or have a day job.

  • @ivanlouche5421
    @ivanlouche5421 5 років тому +687

    The players can get away with murder, abuse, drugs, etc!!!!

    • @oliviasnow9662
      @oliviasnow9662 4 роки тому +1

      Jawbreaker Snack may ask u what does etc means I’m 14 and I don’t know what it means

    • @charko6139
      @charko6139 4 роки тому +16

      @@oliviasnow9662 it's short for "et cetera" and it means "and others" or "and so on"

    • @oliviasnow9662
      @oliviasnow9662 4 роки тому +1

      Hunter Lee thank u so much 😊

    • @charko6139
      @charko6139 4 роки тому +5

      @@oliviasnow9662 no problem!

    • @karinmorley7092
      @karinmorley7092 4 роки тому

      Many baby mamas, etc

  • @zh0re59
    @zh0re59 4 роки тому +511

    "But when did appearance become so important to pro cheer?"
    When men found out that they could use cheerleaders as just another type of eye candy rather than people who actually help their football team win.

    • @victoria3011
      @victoria3011 3 роки тому +20

      @Julius Ashcroft Cheerleaders’ jobs are to amp up the team’s fans in the crowd, which in turn boosts the energy and morale of the players. If that’s not doing their part to help their team win, you’ve clearly never heard of the concept of a home game advantage and what it can do for a team’s success.

    • @peterfus9543
      @peterfus9543 3 роки тому +1

      Back in old times where they would make money and the pay was good and would dring in people now it like yah they are just there no one comes to see theme no more really

    • @rapsheets4993
      @rapsheets4993 3 роки тому +1

      They are just strippers on the sidelines

    • @jameslee4519
      @jameslee4519 3 роки тому +1

      @@victoria3011 You either know nothing about sports or are trolling... cheerleaders don't create the "homefield advantage", wtf?! If the home team in football is losing 42-0 in the 4th quarter, even the best cheerleader in the world isn't going to do shit to "boost energy and morale of the players". Cheerleaders "job" is to provide some additional amusement during games, they don't affect a team's chances of success, to think they do is absurd

  • @chaike9001
    @chaike9001 4 роки тому +242

    The coach really said remember to not to be ugly, people already suffer with self esteem especially women. That’s a real morale killer.

    • @majlordag1889
      @majlordag1889 3 роки тому +6

      😑that's disgusting

    • @krystingrant6292
      @krystingrant6292 2 роки тому +1

      That's basically what she said 🥺😔💯

    • @yashkapoor5805
      @yashkapoor5805 2 роки тому +3

      But that's the literal point. The job is to sculpt your body to perfection.
      I mean it's not like the athletes get a free pass. I once saw a cricket captain mocked by an entire country about his weight because he played bad once. They tore him to shreds.
      It's a requirement to be as fit as humanly possible for sports of any kind, they don't get a pass for being women.

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Рік тому

      Lmao. Men go through all kinds of insults throughout life and much worse if you're part of a competitive sport.
      If you can't even take that, you wouldn't be able to last long.

  • @thomaspeters5889
    @thomaspeters5889 Рік тому +1

    Imagine supporting a squad financially
    (One that doesn't bring in any money) and all it does is cost you trouble in the way of court cases and scandals. This is why many teams don't have cheerleaders and the ones that do are beset with rules and guidelines. People, business people specifically, aren't inclined to shell out money for something that doesn't produce anything in return.

  • @thebirthofjackie8491
    @thebirthofjackie8491 6 років тому +1233

    smh they only paid them minimum wage while some football players made 30 million

    • @refinery29
      @refinery29  6 років тому +10

      +thebirthofjackie SMH!

    • @knziec
      @knziec 6 років тому +47

      Tia doesn’t mean they can pay them just minimum wage. They’re still apart of the sport

    • @twilightfades_7
      @twilightfades_7 6 років тому +14

      Knziec ! No they are not a part of the sport. They are separate from it.

    • @hislord1
      @hislord1 6 років тому +17

      Yeah, because the football players actually have skills. Get rid of the cheerleaders, it will make no difference to the crowd numbers.

    • @knziec
      @knziec 6 років тому +8

      Scattered Thoughts they still have a contribution to the sport because they cheer during it and pretty much each football team has a group of them.

  • @nikkidee9383
    @nikkidee9383 6 років тому +3188

    If this is considered "the best JOB in the world" we have failed as women

    • @misguidedpearls7456
      @misguidedpearls7456 6 років тому +8

      Nikki Dee 💙

    • @jjari0307
      @jjari0307 6 років тому +437

      It is for her. Everyone has different dreams and she loves being a cheerleader so she thinks it is the best job:)

    • @nikkidee9383
      @nikkidee9383 6 років тому +76

      No. Do not correct my statement to appease your opinion. The sentiment of 'failing as a society' places blame away from the individual who accepts the abuse instead of taking responsibility that you and you alone are in control of your choices. What you allow becomes standard. It is NOT societies fault. You have a brain and can think for YOURSELF

    • @nikkidee9383
      @nikkidee9383 6 років тому +47

      @@jjari0307 it is for her. I agree. But glamorizing an industry that doesn't give a shit about its employees is not something people should to aspire to do.

    • @nikkidee9383
      @nikkidee9383 6 років тому +4

      @6 ! 'Perhaps how they are valued are how they are paid'....take home is less than three dollars an hour...less than mascots...less than concession attendants...

  • @jasminemalikia
    @jasminemalikia 6 років тому +172

    This is super eye opening as someone who has watched the CMT show Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making the Team since I was 14. If anyone has seen the show, they kind of talk about the rules and guidelines that women have to follow when auditioning and as a professional cheerleader. The one that stands out always the most is the interactions with the football players. Last year during the show, one of the veterans on the team “left” because she was talking to players and etc. and refused to stop from what was portrayed. She was a really great dancer probably one of the best I’ve seen since watching the show, and to see that she left because of that was shocking. After seeing this, I would have really love to see her in this to explain her experience and how it affected her after it was publicly televised on national television.

    • @sydneys-4
      @sydneys-4 6 років тому +9

      Jasmine Miller oh my gosh!! Yes I agree with you 100% Holly was such an amazing Dancer and I felt like Judy was belittling her and being so rude like it's none of your business who she hangs out with or dates! Also Erica from Dcc filed a law suit against the cowboys for only paying the girls minimum wage

    • @Minniejoonmoon
      @Minniejoonmoon 6 років тому +2

      I know! Holly was one of my all time favorites and I was heartbroken when she had to leave the team. I follow her on Instagram tho and she seems to be doing great in LA as a dancer so theres that at least :)

  • @MarisaPecoraro
    @MarisaPecoraro 3 роки тому +3

    Don't know how I missed this when it came out-- I'm absolutely stunned that they are openly admitting that there is an assault problem in the NFL but instead of addressing it they fire cheerleaders... okay well I guess I'm not shocked I'm so numb to how normal it is.

  • @황사야
    @황사야 5 років тому +164

    I do allstar cheer as a hobby. I couldn’t imagine how you would do this as a job. The pay and treatment is absolutely outrageous, and I really hope they change that in the near future.

    • @fabreo4041
      @fabreo4041 4 роки тому +2

      True like, there are cheer competitions out there that'll probably give them more money than this!

    • @황사야
      @황사야 4 роки тому +1

      C Anda // exactly... i don't do cheer anymore but it was something i really enjoyed. i don't think people would enjoy this.

    • @joelwillems4081
      @joelwillems4081 2 роки тому

      I knew one who did it for an NBA team. It's basically a resume builder. You can't make it your only goal in life but use it as a stepping stone. Their social media is closely monitored, but also for their safety since many wackos comment and follow on there.
      After a year or a couple at the most, the majority move on. Gyms eagerly hire them as personal trainers. Schools, clubs and instruction academies as coaches. Brand ambassadors, that new-age thing of influencer, etc. Probably some now drop out along the line during or after college to do that same type of thing. I can't imagine college cheerleaders are as strictly ruled as they don't get paid. And now the NCAA allows them to become brand ambassadors and influencers while still in college.
      I suppose some may marry fairly well with men who hold similar values as those companies. Like an actress or singer, there doesn't seem an end to the line of those wanting to live that life, even if it is temporarily rough. It would have been balanced if this short report covered that but honestly, it's that wishing to be a princess thing, I guess.

  • @imsotox
    @imsotox 6 років тому +595

    $100 a game
    Criticized
    Standards
    Sexualized
    That’s when I quit :l

    • @bear1more287
      @bear1more287 5 років тому +9

      Sim Mckenzie ,better off flipping burgers 🍔

    • @sacrore9
      @sacrore9 4 роки тому +4

      @@amberchavez7231 it's their not choice of uniform nor did they ask to be gawked at and cat called. Being called "white bitches" is better than being a basic bitch AMBER

    • @miiniimiiniijpeg
      @miiniimiiniijpeg 4 роки тому +4

      Amber Chavez Since when did race play into this? Also majority of people join cheer because it’s a sport. It requires a lot of strength and it’s a passion many want to take to the professional level

    • @nuyichiero9982
      @nuyichiero9982 4 роки тому

      @@bear1more287 iii

  • @TheRockerX
    @TheRockerX 6 років тому +2230

    "A lot of girls look up to me. I wanna show them that it's possible to achieve your dream" .....to make less than minimum wage. Jesus. You need better dreams girl.

    • @momo-om3wv
      @momo-om3wv 6 років тому +97

      The Rocker X so? Why should money get included to your dream? Why does that matter and should stop you cheerleading?

    • @HairRevenge
      @HairRevenge 6 років тому +32

      Girls who want to do this want the title and to be able to tell other people that they are an NFL cheerleader

    • @annaf1588
      @annaf1588 6 років тому +61

      It’s the same as someone dreaming to play in the mlb, or nfl. Cheer is a sport and that’s the big league for them🙄

    • @jenna_maria
      @jenna_maria 6 років тому +57

      딸기 Of course following your dream is the goal, but how are you gonna finance this dream if you don’t even make minimum wage?

    • @backintimealwyn5736
      @backintimealwyn5736 6 років тому +46

      every single dream related job girl have, end up into exploitation. Models, actress, cheerleading, dancing. It's an excuse to not pay them , "you get to fulfill your dream, you're not doing it for the money, they are thousands that would gladly take your place , blablablabla" . Dream less , get payed. Dreams are overrated , work for reality.

  • @JamesYeang
    @JamesYeang 4 роки тому +8

    I find it tragic that there needs to be a lawsuit before they make minimum wage

  • @clementinelee4436
    @clementinelee4436 5 років тому +729

    Just like with models. So beautiful but yet, they’re so insecure and those smiles are fake. I feel bad on how they’re controlled.

    • @akutenshi6946
      @akutenshi6946 5 років тому +18

      Models earn a lot more and are treated a lot better like gigi hadid, cara delevingne etc.

    • @sailortwilightmoon
      @sailortwilightmoon 5 років тому +42

      Gigi Hadid and Cara Delevingne are both famous rich models. I dont know what universe you live in. But in this universe if your name is big everyone is expected to treat you like royalty. I think OP was referring to those models whose names you don't know and who're completely disposable. They are beautiful and they don't get paid much at all. There are plenty of beautiful girls willing to replace them.

    • @beeleg
      @beeleg 5 років тому +2

      Clementine Lee that’s all you got out of the video? That’s pathetic.

    • @yvonnelasten7424
      @yvonnelasten7424 5 років тому +6

      jenna sanchez shut up 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @beeleg
      @beeleg 5 років тому

      Lasagna ! Ooooh wow you really told me 😂

  • @MicahRion
    @MicahRion 6 років тому +759

    $100 per game!!! 😱
    That’s unbelievable

    • @islengarcia7426
      @islengarcia7426 6 років тому +58

      I know!! Especially when nfl players get paid millions per game!!

    • @theoriginalkrabbypatty
      @theoriginalkrabbypatty 6 років тому +11

      You’re told upfront what the pay is and what is asked of you. It’s not like, oh you made the squad, by the way, here’s all the info. Also, there are promos that are offered that you get paid for and you’re constantly given free stuff!

    • @MicahRion
      @MicahRion 6 років тому +4

      K AH It reminds me of places in the US where it’s legal to pay servers under minimum wage because it’s assumed their tips will bring them up to minimum wage.

    • @raeslight
      @raeslight 6 років тому +7

      What are some of the perks? I'm curious. They pay for their hair, make up, etc and receive minimum wage. Are the perks worth it?

    • @refinery29
      @refinery29  6 років тому +1

      +thesecondsunrisewithjulia We think so, too!

  • @LesAnderson
    @LesAnderson 5 років тому +376

    This is not worth it. AT ALL.

    • @krystingrant6292
      @krystingrant6292 5 років тому +9

      I agree I really watch Dallas cowboy cheerleader show like crazy. Had no idea this was going on horrible.

  • @Corina-dq2my
    @Corina-dq2my 5 місяців тому +3

    Actually they're not easily replaceable, unlike models, who are very easily replaced, these women, they must be able to dance very well, have a certain physique, and cheerleading is a skill that takes work to acquire.

  • @saishashank4397
    @saishashank4397 6 років тому +416

    I am proud to be a virgin I am a man(23) its totally my own decision
    everyone should respect their personal decisions because its ones own life

    • @mephistopheles5735
      @mephistopheles5735 5 років тому +12

      Agreed

    • @blackmould
      @blackmould 5 років тому +50

      Faith or not, everyone should respect what you do with your own body (why can’t people get that??)

    • @eleniandthecards
      @eleniandthecards 5 років тому +29

      If my sexual history came up during my job, you bet I’d be calling a lawyer. It was completely inappropriate that they chose to talk to her about it. And you are awesome for your choice, bro! Sex-shaming (or lack of sex shaming in this case) needs to die a painful, fiery death in this world.

    • @Caribbeanprincess1
      @Caribbeanprincess1 5 років тому +2

      @Evelyn M. Young You have sense. Ppl like her end up in those situations when they try to straddle the fence of religion and modern popularity. She wasn't as consistent with her Christianity (most are not) as she should have been and obviously vain. She tried to have the "look but don't touch" policy secular/regular/non-religious females have, but obviously was delusional about the deeper implications of hypocrisy it held for her and unfortunately made her a target and butt of jokes.
      Look but don't touch, women want to be seen but not touched, even girls with decent morals :)
      But dont call yourself a christian or any other religion if you aren't going to live by it 100%, its just dumb.
      -NelleNelle

    • @Caribbeanprincess1
      @Caribbeanprincess1 5 років тому +8

      Proud of you. I think virgins deserve each other and I hope you find a woman that is equally chaste.
      -NelleNelle

  • @popularcc4539
    @popularcc4539 5 років тому +472

    They should unionize!
    (Also wow, sooooo many bootlickers in the comments. Everyone deserves a living wage you ding dongs. The NFL has more than enough money to give them.)

    • @ashlynreeves6957
      @ashlynreeves6957 5 років тому +1

      Popular C/C I totally agree!

    • @01denese
      @01denese 5 років тому

      They need talent agents to get them the best deal.

    • @oomiesays
      @oomiesays 4 роки тому

      Everyone deserves a living wage.
      You are so right.

  • @metalinyourhead3604
    @metalinyourhead3604 5 років тому +350

    I really don’t see why a cheerleader should be getting sacked if a player talks to them.

    • @h1inc816
      @h1inc816 4 роки тому +11

      I don't think it's about them dating that the NFL's worried about. Think about after the breakup. If the player is any good, he could ask/demand she be removed if she's on their teams cheer squad, which would be a shitty thing for the NFL to do (they absolutely would do it for the right player). And also a potential tell all about the player. A lot can go wrong. The players aren't saints either. A few have problems with domestic abuse, think about the negative backlash if a player visually hurts a cheerleader. The fan outrage if she's pretty, could be epic.

    • @TheGr8fulBrat
      @TheGr8fulBrat 4 роки тому +35

      @@h1inc816 if that was the purpose for those rules than the football players would be forbidden from contacting the cheerleaders too. Its all misogynistic bullshit

    • @h1inc816
      @h1inc816 4 роки тому +2

      @@TheGr8fulBrat i didn't say it was right, i'm just saying how the world works.... It's not always fair or right

  • @trentjohnson3302
    @trentjohnson3302 2 роки тому

    You did great on this!! To my understanding it’s not abt the cheerleading itself but what it can lead to in the future many people say things abt being housewives to rich men but many become dance instructors, coaches, they coach other NFL teams plus social media presence with sponsors and ad deals. So the actual job of the cheerleaders sucks but the long term outcome can be astounding

  • @allthingsjuana253
    @allthingsjuana253 6 років тому +357

    That’s crazy the amount of work they put in ! that’s dedication omg !!

    • @meizhen2265
      @meizhen2265 6 років тому +2

      @@iwant007 you sound like a misogynist from your multiple dumb comments and clearly you are from the even dumber videos you've liked LMAO

  • @ashleyuwu.
    @ashleyuwu. 6 років тому +701

    “It’s the best job in the world” - girl no, you’re capable of so much more & wORTH so much more

    • @nolagibson1379
      @nolagibson1379 6 років тому +77

      its the best job in the world TO HER because she loves what she does. she gets to do what she loves everyday which is why they stay, the whole point of the video is that their work, their jobs aren't being properly compensated and the EMPLOYERS are being discriminatory.

    • @Pinnjaaa
      @Pinnjaaa 6 років тому +15

      @@nolagibson1379 exactly! some person's "best job in the world" is being a vet, other person's "best job" is being a personal trainer, someone loves their 9-5 desk job. people are just different and everyjob is very much needed in their own way.

    • @nolagibson1379
      @nolagibson1379 6 років тому +5

      are you really comparing prostitution to professional cheerleading?? and yes women should be able to have autonomy over their bodies within whatever profession they choose including sex work. and they don't need your judgment with the inequality that comes with it

    • @veoh112
      @veoh112 6 років тому +1

      Nola Gibson you can compare it with any job like the girl above me did. I think sex workers face a lot more discrimination and inequality than cheerleaders. Cheerleaders are still choosing to be a part of cheerleading

    • @Ijaleeh
      @Ijaleeh 6 років тому +1

      I feel like cheerleaders are only cheerleaders so the whole world can say their hot. XD
      That's the only reason people try out for cheer at my school..

  • @MomentswithMolly
    @MomentswithMolly 4 роки тому +343

    Stop being so obsessed with women's bodies and sexual choices!

    • @dominique245
      @dominique245 4 роки тому +16

      period

    • @MomentswithMolly
      @MomentswithMolly 4 роки тому +9

      @Jack Jack obsessing over women's bodies leads to women going to great lengths to "fit the obsession," when all bodies are beautiful!

    • @genebohannon8820
      @genebohannon8820 4 роки тому +1

      @@MomentswithMolly Do you think that way or do you just virtue signal? I think most men start to look bad by 40 and women after they have had a husband for 10 years.

    • @MomentswithMolly
      @MomentswithMolly 4 роки тому +18

      @@genebohannon8820 why do you define women's beauty by how long they've had a husband? Whereas you define men's beauty by their age? 🤔

    • @206Vin
      @206Vin 4 роки тому +3

      @@MomentswithMolly "All bodies are beautiful" is something only an extremely squishy blob would say.

  • @KingDavid5934
    @KingDavid5934 3 роки тому +2

    It makes me gasp to see all these people suddenly acting up as if they never knew cheerleading was about sexual exploitation. Even more shocking is the fact they get into those jobs knowing what those jobs are all about and then acting as if they didn't know.

  • @TheAfroina
    @TheAfroina 6 років тому +220

    I wish this video explained the differences in cheer. There's a difference between NFL cheerleading, All star cheerleading, etc.

  • @finaarmania1173
    @finaarmania1173 6 років тому +166

    I used to cheer for the chargers and they do constantly remind you that you are replaceable (because you are) At tryouts there's been 400 girls who showed up and usually 20 or so make the team. They try to treat it like you're lucky to be there and you're a local celebrity. That's why people stick around even though they were being paid less than minimum wage. I'm not going to lie, I never went back another year because it's a waste of time. But the girls who loved it, it's because they are the girls who LOVE attention and the attention that comes from being an NFL cheerleader, like I said they treat you like a local celebrity. Also honestly a majority of the girls there are trying to land an NFL player and get one's attention. That's why they have so many rules.

    • @sisco9soccer
      @sisco9soccer 6 років тому

      Fina Armania what’s your Instagram, you’re gorgeous:)

    • @Junekup06
      @Junekup06 6 років тому +8

      Facts! They are there to be close to rich, young men.

    • @Junekup06
      @Junekup06 6 років тому

      Music’s Odyssey I dont know how you earn money, but would you do it for free, if no one paid you for what you do? If you won't, you have no right to judge.

    • @marysunshine2027
      @marysunshine2027 6 років тому +1

      @@Junekup06 Facts..those "rich young men" squander it often times and die of prescription overdosea often times or commit suicide from pain. Some yes live long happy lives. Even more die too soon. All in the name of entertaining the masses

    • @Junekup06
      @Junekup06 6 років тому +3

      mary sunshine very true. Some are broke just a few years after the NFL. It is sad.

  • @richie-3485
    @richie-3485 5 років тому +399

    "they're finally being paid minimum" annnnnd the players are being paid HOW MUCH? 👀

    • @Frozo-nt2ky
      @Frozo-nt2ky 4 роки тому +3

      well they are doing all the work lol

    • @richie-3485
      @richie-3485 4 роки тому +16

      @@Frozo-nt2ky try running a sports team with only players and nobody doing every other job that keeps the operation functioning. try making a stage play happen with only the actors. see how well that goes for you.

    • @Frozo-nt2ky
      @Frozo-nt2ky 4 роки тому

      @@richie-3485 okay bet 1/6 of team in the nfl alr dont

    • @richie-3485
      @richie-3485 4 роки тому

      @@Frozo-nt2ky what?

    • @Frozo-nt2ky
      @Frozo-nt2ky 4 роки тому

      @@richie-3485 no joke just looked it up