I used to love when comedians would to tell offensive jokes because they were funny, now they do it for clout. "My next special is going to get me cancelled" and then you watch it and it's their regular shit with a few trans jokes thrown in. Advertised like they were going to execute the queen on stage.
He does get it right almost every time. Some comedians/others tho, use "comedy" as a cover to be genuinely disrespectful and that's just boring humourwise.
@@LoudMouth_ the difference between Jimmy Carr and "edgy" offensive comedians is that Jimmy is a really clearly very intelligent man. He's also exceptionally good at carrying himself in a vaguely foppish manner of a "proper" well-off man and that adds extra layers to his comedy that some dingus in a graphic t-shirt can't achieve.
In one of his routines he says "if you don't like her now, you're not going to like her much with two black eyes". Seemed like he might have gone onto say that on this show, but I think he made the right call not to.
And this is why Jimmy Carr is a comedian. Absolutely brilliant. Extremely quick witted, perfect for panel shows. He and David Mitchell should do their own panel show, occasionally featuring Bill Bailey and Rob Bryden.
All we can hope is that some potential wifebeater sees this, bottle of stella clutched drunkenly in one hand and says "I never thought of it like this. She does look shit when shes busted up" Jimmy Carr: social visionary
Well, maybe I'm being too serious here...but usually to opress the person. And manipulate them. Wounds heal, it's not like you permanently bruised your wife..I mean, if we're going to continue on the 'possession'-thoughts here. And when your wife 'did something wrong' in your eyes, like overcooking the pasta, then that might be the last straw and since you feel comfortable and safe with her...in a way that she wants to help you and will support you...you'll also feel the room to lash out on her and take all your frustrations at work and outside the house..out on your wife. With the hopes of her 'not doing it again', like a creepy, agressive parent that's 'teaching' (abusing) a child. Which is ofcourse, very condescending...when you assume he treats his equal like a toddler. And to a certain point, feeling comfortable with anyone, enough to rage and scream at them, is a good thing, as long as the other person feels the same way. You might have 3 or 4 moment in your life where you feel safe enough to explode, scream, fight over nothing (not with mean insults, but with simple stubbornness) and then you return and you apologize. And the other person will know what you mean and will accept it. And you'll feel guilty and relieved and you'll make it up. However...if there are insults involved, or violence. If it's always óne person that does the screaming and blaming, while the other sits on the couch and cries...and the apology is not there OR involves phrases like: 'Well, if you hadn't-(etc.) I'm telling you this for your own good-(etc.) You should just try and pay more attention to- (etc.)' then it's an abusive relationship. So...bottomline...pent up anger..and the feeling that you are 'safe to do so' with your wife, because she'll "allow" you to do it and not get the cops or fight back. And since putting boundaries up áfter things already happened, is very difficult...the usual advice is just to get the fuck out of there. And once your boyfriend (or girlfriend) is showing behaviour like this, you should try and make clear that they can go jog a lap around town and come back, if they have pent up agression. And not take it out on you.
I’ve never understood the “any answer condemns you” nonsense on the “have you stopped beating your wife?” question. You can just answer “I’ve never beaten my wife and I never will,”
Surely the right answer to the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Is the answer, "I have never beaten my wife." Unless you actually have beaten your wife and then you deserve to be in the interrogation room.
Nein, because that's not answering the question, the question isn't "Have you ever beaten your wife?" the question is, have you stopped beating your wife? you have 2 possible answers "yes I have" which indicates you did beat your wife, and "no I haven't" which indicates you do beat your wife. Technically you could answer with a random word like "elephants!" but it's not an actual answer to the loaded question being asked.
It's a fallacious question because it imposes 2 answers which can be both invalid. I feel like you're not grasping the fairly simple point of the question.
Can you link to where it's suggested in logic that invalid answers aren't answers at all? As far as I can see, the conclusion to the argument will be wrong, but that doesn't mean that the conclusion doesn't exist at all.
Couldn't you just say "No - I have not *stopped* beating my wife, because I never did beat her to begin with"...? It's answering the question while also clarifying the contents of the answer.
I think what David means is that when everyone laughed or possibly when Jimmy Carr made the joke, society thinks that domestic abuse is a not-too serious offence. I'm sorry if my opinion didn't translate too clearly. I had trouble trying to 'word' it.
To all of you who don't understand analogies: At no point did Jimmy Carr suggest that women are objects or property, the analogy he used could only be found offensive by overly sensitive (aren't they all) feminists looking for any excuse to hate men.
Nope, any answer does not condemn you. "I reject the premise of your question" is a fully valid answer, showing you saw through what the questioner intended and sets up for a riposte.
@eldudio Indeed, but it's also difficult to try and share that we really enjoyed a specific part or punch line without typing it out, and getting people to 'agree' by thumbing up.
@Niall2A It was about the size of elephants ears being for cooling purposes, not hearing. Basically a lot of blood is able to sit in an area with a massive surface, when they beat their ears they are cooling themselves off. Charlottebraille was entirely right.
@SMDeathwind yes I agree that is the correct answer, but they mean actually answering the question condemns you either way not stepping back and attacking the validity of the question.
@spitfirexftw I'm pretty sure this was from E as I think they were talking about elephants at the start of this. Apparently Series 5, Episode 8 so says MissPompousTwat.
@karmaofgood thanks man, but metallicafannick allready made it clear to me: it's sarcasm. totally makes sense, assuming that "i like to think i can help" is a commonly used phrase (which i didnt know before)
@FaceTheQwazaar She just stated she'd switch anyone but Alan. (meaning not Alan) If anyone, I think I'd only prefer to switch Phil with Jeremy... Simply because I feel Clarkson has been really rather good in his QI appearances.
This is probably the kindest thing Jimmy Carr has ever said
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coming from reddit I suppose
r/funny - never heard of it...
It certainly is the polar opposite of his Malaria/Mosquito joke.
It's such a beautifully crafted joke. Incredible short, precise and with multiple layers at the same time.
The man is a master of the fat free joke
This is why I love Jimmy. He doesn't avoid controversial jokes.
Not to mention it was funny as fuck.
Exactly. And live he is a whole lot better.
I used to love when comedians would to tell offensive jokes because they were funny, now they do it for clout. "My next special is going to get me cancelled" and then you watch it and it's their regular shit with a few trans jokes thrown in. Advertised like they were going to execute the queen on stage.
He does get it right almost every time. Some comedians/others tho, use "comedy" as a cover to be genuinely disrespectful and that's just boring humourwise.
@@LoudMouth_ the difference between Jimmy Carr and "edgy" offensive comedians is that Jimmy is a really clearly very intelligent man. He's also exceptionally good at carrying himself in a vaguely foppish manner of a "proper" well-off man and that adds extra layers to his comedy that some dingus in a graphic t-shirt can't achieve.
yes!@@bennylloyd-willner9667
“...though they don’t use the flaps for hearing.”
What a way to start a clip.
Stephen Fry's reaction after Jimmy Carr's joke was priceless.
Honestly one of the best jokes I've ever heard.
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Robotic Coffee I don't think I get it?
This is his best joke for sure. It's even got the deep undertone of men loving their cars more than the women they hit.
I suspect that is the actual joke intended.
"Though they don't use the flaps for hearing really." I feel like I've come in at the wrong point of a conversation.
Indeed. And neither do they use them for talking, although they are called lips
His face at 00:34, its like he's thinking "Oh shit, they know!"
In defence of Phil Jupitus, that's just what it looks like when a fat man breathes.
@@GarioTheRock I laughed too hard at that 😂
In one of his routines he says "if you don't like her now, you're not going to like her much with two black eyes". Seemed like he might have gone onto say that on this show, but I think he made the right call not to.
or it might just not have made the final edit...
And this is why Jimmy Carr is a comedian. Absolutely brilliant. Extremely quick witted, perfect for panel shows. He and David Mitchell should do their own panel show, occasionally featuring Bill Bailey and Rob Bryden.
Carr is the only one that can make this kind of jokes without being distasteful
I'll key his Carr.
+Luke
Luke, I'm not your father.
But I dó want to advice you, to buy a diary.
All we can hope is that some potential wifebeater sees this, bottle of stella clutched drunkenly in one hand and says "I never thought of it like this. She does look shit when shes busted up"
Jimmy Carr: social visionary
Stephen Fry's facepalm made this so much better as well. :D Love them both.
He does have a point in a way.
When Stephen Fry facepalms, you've done good sir.
He speaks for around 7 seconds and gets 7,000 + likes.
Just fuckin' amazing :-)
Jimmy is just too funny,, I can never see them comming from him :D
"Society just got a tiny bit worse."
XD
I mean he's got a point
I love the ensuing randomness when people upload QI clips and start with the ending of the previous segment.
He has a point there. Why harm the ones you love?
His point was , why harm your own possession.
ok i have to admit - point taken.
Well, maybe I'm being too serious here...but usually to opress the person. And manipulate them.
Wounds heal, it's not like you permanently bruised your wife..I mean, if we're going to continue on the 'possession'-thoughts here.
And when your wife 'did something wrong' in your eyes, like overcooking the pasta, then that might be the last straw and since you feel comfortable and safe with her...in a way that she wants to help you and will support you...you'll also feel the room to lash out on her and take all your frustrations at work and outside the house..out on your wife.
With the hopes of her 'not doing it again', like a creepy, agressive parent that's 'teaching' (abusing) a child.
Which is ofcourse, very condescending...when you assume he treats his equal like a toddler.
And to a certain point, feeling comfortable with anyone, enough to rage and scream at them, is a good thing, as long as the other person feels the same way. You might have 3 or 4 moment in your life where you feel safe enough to explode, scream, fight over nothing (not with mean insults, but with simple stubbornness) and then you return and you apologize. And the other person will know what you mean and will accept it. And you'll feel guilty and relieved and you'll make it up.
However...if there are insults involved, or violence. If it's always óne person that does the screaming and blaming, while the other sits on the couch and cries...and the apology is not there OR involves phrases like: 'Well, if you hadn't-(etc.) I'm telling you this for your own good-(etc.) You should just try and pay more attention to- (etc.)' then it's an abusive relationship.
So...bottomline...pent up anger..and the feeling that you are 'safe to do so' with your wife, because she'll "allow" you to do it and not get the cops or fight back.
And since putting boundaries up áfter things already happened, is very difficult...the usual advice is just to get the fuck out of there.
And once your boyfriend (or girlfriend) is showing behaviour like this, you should try and make clear that they can go jog a lap around town and come back, if they have pent up agression. And not take it out on you.
I’ve never understood the “any answer condemns you” nonsense on the “have you stopped beating your wife?” question. You can just answer
“I’ve never beaten my wife and I never will,”
JIMMY...
the new spokeperson for social services !
"Would you key your own car?
Don't beat your own wife."
Lol not only Jimmy's joke but David reply... epic comedians!
he does have a good point, 99% of wife beaters wouldn't get the joke
Of course, for Jimmy's girlfriend "keying your own Carr" has a more layered meaning.
great joke and impeccable delivery
Surely the right answer to the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Is the answer, "I have never beaten my wife." Unless you actually have beaten your wife and then you deserve to be in the interrogation room.
Nein, because that's not answering the question, the question isn't "Have you ever beaten your wife?" the question is, have you stopped beating your wife? you have 2 possible answers "yes I have" which indicates you did beat your wife, and "no I haven't" which indicates you do beat your wife. Technically you could answer with a random word like "elephants!" but it's not an actual answer to the loaded question being asked.
Div Divlar That's the point...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
It's a fallacious question because it imposes 2 answers which can be both invalid. I feel like you're not grasping the fairly simple point of the question.
Can you link to where it's suggested in logic that invalid answers aren't answers at all?
As far as I can see, the conclusion to the argument will be wrong, but that doesn't mean that the conclusion doesn't exist at all.
Couldn't you just say "No - I have not *stopped* beating my wife, because I never did beat her to begin with"...?
It's answering the question while also clarifying the contents of the answer.
oh my god jimmy carr. i love stephens face. it looks like he's thinking "good god, why did i let him on this show!"
This is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. How does he come up with this stuff?
British people don't key their own cars?
I keyed my wife's car and she beat me up. Does that count for something?
David Henderson lol
It's like keying your own "Carr". Wow, that sounded better in my head
that's more of a reply than an answer.
What a quote
Don't worry you made your point clear, and I guess you are right.
0:33, he's like "Fuck, they're on to me.".
Thank you for making your comment long enough.
"Though they don't use the flaps for hearing really"
Wonder what they were talking about just before...
LOL true! I wish you had been in the show to point that out! :-D
I think what David means is that when everyone laughed or possibly when Jimmy Carr made the joke, society thinks that domestic abuse is a not-too serious offence. I'm sorry if my opinion didn't translate too clearly. I had trouble trying to 'word' it.
as horrible as it seems, he has a point.
0:45 the Jupitus brain-gasm kicking in there...
I stand by my previous statement.
Series E, episode 5, Eyes and Ears.
=D
Thx, just found it.
if my car suddenly stopped working and drove me somewhere i didnt want it to go id probably key it too
this is why I pay for british tv channels, best comedians ever !
"Keying your own Carr" is he referring to self-harm?
@pamchirathivat Jeremy is the epiphany of humour! Everything that comes out of his mouth is hilarious even when he's dead serious
Only the picture on the back wall prevents the first line from sounding REALLY pervy in context D=
"Though they don't use the flaps for hearing really!"
To all of you who don't understand analogies:
At no point did Jimmy Carr suggest that women are objects or property, the analogy he used could only be found offensive by overly sensitive (aren't they all) feminists looking for any excuse to hate men.
Nope, any answer does not condemn you.
"I reject the premise of your question" is a fully valid answer, showing you saw through what the questioner intended and sets up for a riposte.
Beating your wife is like keying your own car. Alright then.
I was about to argue with you until that last sentence. I tip my hat to you, fellow America-locked Anglophile.
Chubby David was still usually pretty ranty.
@eldudio Indeed, but it's also difficult to try and share that we really enjoyed a specific part or punch line without typing it out, and getting people to 'agree' by thumbing up.
@Niall2A It was about the size of elephants ears being for cooling purposes, not hearing. Basically a lot of blood is able to sit in an area with a massive surface, when they beat their ears they are cooling themselves off. Charlottebraille was entirely right.
Carr's timing is grand
jimmy carr & david mitchell on the same team??
i need to find this episode
He’s absolutely right! You are stupid if you break your stuff
0:25 - I think the 'I have no information on that subject (my beating my partner/wife) at this time', is the best a politician could do.
no, but Im glad I rondomly stumbled upon one
Stephen Fry and David Mitchell are my favourite comedians. I'd go as far as to say they are my favourite people, come to think of it.
People will no doubt get a stick up their ass about this. Can't we just laugh at it? It's just fucking hilarious.
@ituyok it was about why elephants have large ear flaps. the answer was they use them to cool rather than hear
'Have you stopped beating your wife?'
'I've never beaten my wife or any woman, stop asking such ridiculous questions.'
Question dealt with.😊
@SMDeathwind yes I agree that is the correct answer, but they mean actually answering the question condemns you either way not stepping back and attacking the validity of the question.
@spitfirexftw I'm pretty sure this was from E as I think they were talking about elephants at the start of this.
Apparently Series 5, Episode 8 so says MissPompousTwat.
He uses that joke in his stand-up routines
A chubby Stephen Fry talking to a chubby Jimmy Carr and a chubby David Mitchell.
Why should a joke be explained? If you dont get it - you dont get it.
@ypperlig89 It's not a "laugh track", there's an actual audience there.
In Terry Pratchett's book I Shall Wear Midnight "rough music" refers to a lynch mob. And according to that book: yes, yes it does.
RIP :'(
@GlamourKillsTian
why would you replace the best person in the world with the loudest?
Goes double for Jimmy. I guess nobody in the studio caught on to that joke though.
"It's like keying your own Carr"
Lol at the mindfuck at 0:33
That happens to be the same attitude that the Romans had for their slaves.
It's unusual that Jimmy brings his A-list of offensive jokes to QI, which is what makes it even funnier... :)
@McD419 QI! Every episode is on youtube if you look hard enough. :) awesome show. you should definitely check it out.
Elephants, I believe.
he said keying his carr, which could be a sexual euphemism.
@GlamourKillsTian WHAAAA--? The guy next to Alan is a beast!
did jimmy say "...ist like keeying your own car?"
@GlamourKillsTian I like Phil but must admit that every time Clarkson has been on the show hes been very good
@ypperlig89 If it's modified, I agree, it's stupid. I wasn't paying close attention to the detail of the laughter.
@karmaofgood thanks man, but metallicafannick allready made it clear to me: it's sarcasm. totally makes sense, assuming that "i like to think i can help" is a commonly used phrase (which i didnt know before)
@Niall2A
Probably something about elephants using their ears for fanning themselves.
I would very much love to know which episode this is (and perhaps a link to the full episode?)
Cars don't answer back
If you didn't like her before, you aren't gonna like her with bruises.
I'm surprised we haven't stolen more shows like this yet.
if by 'all' you mean '2 out of 5 of them'
@Dungarth How can you be an ex Cambridge graduate? They have still graduated from Cambridge, they are all Cambridge graduates.
@baadshepherd If you ever saw 10 O'Clock Live, you might think twice about that wish.
@GlamourKillsTian replace phil jupitus, with clarkson?
While Michael Jackson and Elvis do a duet in the background.
@FaceTheQwazaar She just stated she'd switch anyone but Alan. (meaning not Alan)
If anyone, I think I'd only prefer to switch Phil with Jeremy...
Simply because I feel Clarkson has been really rather good in his QI appearances.