Rob: I've been drumming professionally since before your birth. 64 years old, and your vid just helped me with a trad grip problem I've had my entire life. I'm not joking, man--I can now play rim shot backbeats with traditional grip. I've studied with Marv Dahlgren and Elliott Fine, and never heard about "that area of the thumb where the stick fits perfectly. It took me only minutes to correct! Bless your groovy little heart, Rob. Thanks!
Okay you old farts.....now a young guy has something to say.... I'm just a flat out newbie and the 1st grip I will learn is the traditional and I'll learn it mainly from this video. One day I'll show you old geezers how it's done. After all, I'm younger, therefore faster, sharper and only 62 years old. : - )
@@drummersinger5324 Using a regular grip is way better for the right hand. Most jazz drummers use the French grip (sideways match grip) for it. It's really awkward using trad grip to hit a cymbal really fast. Why don't we use traditional grip on both hands?: Because that is awkward and inefficient. Why don't we use a sideways matched grip for the snare drum?: Because that is awkward and inefficient. Some people like traditional grip better. I'm not arguing against match grip. I use it. I'm just saying that your argument is, for the most part, pointless. Different hands, different actions, different needs
@@thatonebrokenpixel4889 And there you just admitted one the limitations of the trad grip. It's a useless cymbal riding and crashing grip. This is true. It's also less powerful of a grip. It's also slower than then a regular grip. So anyone with a brain has to be stupid to play a drum set that way.
Lovin' all this great feedback, guys! Please feel free to share this and any other lesson you dig on Facebook and litter Twitter with it! I need your help making our little community grow! 👊🏽
Hi Rob , great vid my man. Common sense approach takes the mystery out of it. Long shot I know but is there any chance of pdf's of the exercises. Thanks
Yo Rob, I've been playing percussions for over 35 years and I have never seen more detailed intricate video on traditional grip. About that little notch in your thumb I always knew it was there I just never paid attention to it like I do now after watching your video. Keep up the fantastic teachings you are phenomenal at what you do. The more detailed the teaching the better the outcome for the student and the teacher. Take all the time it takes and it'll wake the man it makes. My hat's off to you buddy. Peace
If UA-cam had suggested this video sooner, I wouldn't have had to waste so much time trying to learn traditional grip from people that have no idea how to teach music, how to properly communicate musical concepts and even how to film themselves. Thanks for this tutorial, man.
This is without a doubt the best tutorial on UA-cam. Ridiculously well articulated, not a moment of the 25 minutes is wasted on superfluous talk - all business, with clear instruction about the fundamentals and mechanics of the traditional grip. I’m a beginner in terms of having zero training, and I believe that with this video alone, and practice, I’ll be able to play with a traditional grip adequately. I can’t emphasize enough how incredibly helpful the detailed breakdown of what Iwould imagine is every aspect of the traditional grip. There are plenty of videos out there, but they all seem to emphasize advanced techniques (because there is virtually no explanation that I could actually learn from). Great job, thanks so much for posting!
Rob Brown I’m going to go further. Lots of the videos I see on UA-cam, basically, make me want to quit. Literally. I see guys who are awesome drummers and their tutorials lack, as you say, the in depth analysis of how to actually do it. And so I’m flailing around trying to figure out what’s going on, sticks flying everywhere, and after 5 minutes I go do something else. I may never become a great, or even good drummer, but at least I’ll have the will to give it a shot. I know because my wife has snapped at me twice for practicing and it’s only been a few days. Thanks again, dead horse kicked.
I've been avoiding this video because I told myself many times, I'm DONE f-in with traditional grip -although I still catch myself mindlessly messing with while watching TV. I've been trying get TG happening since I started playing in the '80s but till this day have made little progress. This video has helped me understand the mechanics better than any of my teachers or other videos have and now feel inspired and confident to get back on the horse. Rob, Your passion for the instrument and your kind, non-judgmental, keep it simple philosophy is a highly infectious virus that I'm happy to catch and eager to spread. Keep on keepin it real my brother. Thanks man❤️
I'm 57, been hitting things w/ sticks since I was old enuf to empty a wastebasket & turn it upside down. Gave it all up eventually, onedrink or onedrug@ a time, now I'm teaching the old dog new tricks. I really appreciate your easy to follow and informative vid! I'm not a natural student but you're a born teacher, and this tutorial was schooling me from beginning2end. ThankYou for it!!
Thanks so much man, it's my goal in band to be a snare drummer, and hopefully one day, captain/section leader for my Drumline. You have given me exactly what I need. Drum on brother.
Learned traditional grip in third grade, played 10 years with it. Abandoned it in the 70's to rock in loud hard bands for 20 years. Picked it up again when venues became smaller and bands played tastier tunes. Besides, Steve Farrone looked so cool using it! I'm back and your video has me groovin' again. Big thanks! You ARE the coolest teacher out there. Peace and love.
Rob: Thanks for your own journey of discovery and then producing such a detailed analysis of traditional grip. I’ve watched many demos by famous, skilled people in an effort to figure out the minute details necessary for developing the skill; your presentation is the only one that's provided the detail and depth of clarification I needed. This tutorial, and your approach to teaching, got me unstuck and is making a meaningful difference. At nearly 70 and picking up the sticks only three years ago, I haven't enough time left to become I drummer I’d like to be or experience the musical world as deeply and broadly as I'd like; but your presentation will greatly speed my progress and get me farther than otherwise in this journey of discovery, before my curtain drops. Well done, thank you, and if ever in my neck of the woods please reach out!
Single most helpful advice I've had in ages. I'm a returning drummer in my 40s after a long absence and this has really helped me get back into the feel of things. Never cracked trad grip first time round. This time I'm going for it. Thanks Rob!
Rob, One of the "Best Explanations" for traditional grip I have seen in years. Like you I watched other drummers hands to see how they held the sticks and the techniques used. I started out drumming in this style when I was 16 years old. Now I'm 69 and I'm still learning!! My all time favourite drummer,Joe Morello (RIP) is the guy I used to watch wherever I could. I also played in a Scottish pipe band for a couple of years. That helped tremendously.. There are times I wished I could play match grip as I see some of the speed and flexibility of the style but I always come back to traditional as that is what I know best. Brian Turner
Rob, I saw Tony, yrs.ago and when he was doing singles, his fingers came off the stick on the left hand. His thumb always stayed back, keeping the fulcrum tight. When playing multiple strokes, the fingers came back on. This was taught to me by Joe Cusatis and Ed Shaughnessy. This is the Henry Adler, Jim Chapin method. I learned the traditional method first, and was told to always play with the fulcrum back, or as you call it, the cradle. If I really want speed , I'll turn my left hand over, and rotate my fingers, like Dennis Chambers does.Anyhow a great lesson. There's a place for both traditional and matched grip.
Rob, been playing most of my life matched with traditional interspersed. But never really felt comfortable with trad. I watched many of your other video's so I'm familiar with you, but I had to drop a line to you and thank you for such a great simple explanation and exercises to get more comfortable playing trad. Just in the matter of a couple weeks sitting and playing relaxed your 4 exercises I've noticed an improvement. I play in a couple bands. One rock the other Jazz and I really am putting the trad grip to use in the Jazz band. You've made this drummer excited about getting out to the studio and woodshedding traditional. Im having a blast at 71yrs old. Thanks man!!
I have played traditional my whole life. I never thought about the ring finger at all! I always used the first finger and thumb as the motor. Good info
The traditional grip technique that I’ve been playing for the longest time is me trying to transfer my marching snare technique directly over to drum set. This video makes me realize that there are in fact differences watching this whole video helped me become better playing traditional grip for drum set.
I love the intellectual approach. "Over thinking" if you will. It's how I think, so I love seeing that intellectualizing unfold in these videos, making this channel one of my favorite to learn from.
Great video Rob, About 5 mos. ago, after taking a very long hiatus from drumming, I started to work on the traditional grip as well as every other zillion things needed to be a truly proficient player. You break the dynamics of this grip down to a simple and basic course. There are so many small nuances of everything we do to get the " technique " perfected. It is an evolution. You seem to be a very conscientious guy who has been through all the trial and error to give back to drummers that are on that long ( and rewarding) road of learning these idiosyncratic nuances that have to be ingrained in us. I appreciate you man. Jimmy R
Hi, all my life I have tried to swap from matched to traditional grip ,I can do it no problems holding the sticks the wrong way around ! As if I was left handed . So you said something that just made a whole heap of sense to me . "The traditional grip is not a natural grip ,you have to earn it !". It has inspired me to keep trying to do it when playing a gig . When my right hand holds the traditional grip I have speed control etc., it shows me what is possible but do it with the left . Aghhhh. One of the best drum lessons I have heard . I had lessons when I was 11 now 62 ! Time flys .Thanks .
Just started watching. How cool is this dude? So real. I shared with my 11 year old daughter cause she just started drums and these videos are so from the heart.
I just want to say... Thank you sooooo much. From the bottom of my heart. so many people don't know how to break through the crap, and usually come from such an arrogant place. This forever changed my view of how to learn traditional grip. And I am a subscriber now!
Finally someone who pays attention to the little details! This is super helpful. I've often wondered, as you did, what EXACTLY goes on in a trad grip. I've grown tired seeing other instructionals going only as far as how to grip and where to put the sticks. Yours is the only one out here that's really helpful in this aspect. Keep it up!
I appreciate your helping with this. I'm 56 years old and make my kit/set sing sweetly! I just never felt complete using only matched. I have a metal plate in my left forearm, some pins in my wrist & lost 45% of my elbow due to an auto accident, believe it or not? lol. However! I'm the luckiest man alive. I want to practice these exercises you gave and strengthen that cradle & ring finger. I would like to say, I have taken a couple semesters for drums at our community college. My instructor is a awesome drummer for the United States Army Field Band. He says matched grip is the best and told me that this is the natural movement of the wrist and hands, elbows ect.. Of course he didn't match grip, he played traditional lol
I am from Australia but lived many years in Texas . I was judge at the Drum Off at the Guitar Center and yes I was impressed when traditional grip was used (extra points ) , the trick is make it look easy . We are are all impressed by Buddy and Gene ,they are the inspiration. Thanks again Rob.
I'm fairly new to drumming, the lockdown in Canada inspired me to put the guitar down after 25 years and take up drumming at 43. AND I'M HOOKED. I love your videos and like you have found some good videos on traditional grip but yours did indeed answer a few questions that I couldn't find anywhere. Thank you. Heading to your store now for a shirt to support.
I love you man!!!!!!! I've always accepted that traditional grip was just one of those things that are simply not me. However, I've always had a burning desire to learn this grip *because it looks so cool* so I finally decided to pick it up since I'm more of a traditionalist; I like old drum kits and old ways of playing. Anywho, after all the books I've looked up, private instruction, you by far had the best explanation. I've learned more through the first five minutes with you than hours with others. When I've barely watched the video, I've learned power!!!!! I mean, I still need ton of practice but at least I now have a solid foundation to work with. Match will always have a place and would probably still be my go to but now, I'm confident that I could learn traditional grip for a fresh stylistic approach for soloing and grooving. THANKS MAN!!!! much love -Alex
I´ve played traditional grip since -95 and this video actually gave me that little missing piece of the puzzle where suddenly my grip just clicked and everything fell into place... Thanks man! :)
Rob, just a 46yo recreational drummer here and always wanted to learn this grip. Thank you for taking the time to make this video, it was a good lesson.
This is the most straight and to the point video I'm super blessed to have you simplify a lot of concepts that people either gloss too much or try to overcomplicate thank you for all the work you do
I've played traditional grip my whole life (started @ 8 I'm 57), your video's a big help, the stuff I should have been working on all these years. Better late than never. Thanks, solid.
I've been drumming since the mid-60's and I mostly use the traditional grip. Your video is very good. The main exercises that really helped my index finger are doing the triplet rhythm with 3 beats on each hand (RRRLLLRRRLLL, etc. with the accent on the first beat of each triplet. Keeping the pattern going will force your muscle memory to grow. Also, practice with brushes doing the same exercises that you show. You will find your weak spots immediately.
I watched this and I watched Tommy Igoe Great hands for a lifetime and combining the two approach to get me started on traditional grip. I've been looking for traditional grip explanation that is clear enough for me and this explanation from Rob is really clear. This is my third time watching Rob's tutorial, and I combined with what I watched from Tommy Igoe DVD yesterday. This suddenly gives an "AHA" moment, and makes me go practice the traditional grip. They make sense and point me to the right direction where and what to look for to improve. I just started first exercise from Rob, and the bounces really feel natural with the thumb, but I can see this will take time. I hope I my hands can improve in a few years with this. This is really awesome. I didn't see any lessons in Drumeo telling me in details like this what to look for for a beginner in traditional grip like me. I can't wait to watch this again hopefully for the second exercise then the third. Awesome job, Rob! Thanks!
It's kinda the same principle as a whip, but the rotation starts at the shoulder, goes through the elbow, then the wrist and that last ounce of snap comes from the thumb joint, on the downstrokes. Basically, trad grip gives your left hand more strokes with less travel, as the index absorbs the rebound. Try this at home, one hand at a time-with practice your trad left should be nearly twice as fast as your right. Flexibilty in the left thumb and wrist are crucial; you're standard roots music 'train beat' is the classic exercise-I've played in bands where that and polka beats was all you did all night, except for the occasional waltz. Nawlins second line beats are similarly friendly to trad grip. once this sound is in your hands, you can really eff shtuff up! Do it a million times, but listen, compare and make it better. Thanks Rob, for another great lesson!
Thorough explanation of how the traditional grip works; how the stick is held and manipulated using three fingers (well two fingers and the thumb). It clears a lot. Nice job. Thank you!
Absolutely amazing. I think I decided to take up traditional grip about a year or 2 ago now. I’ve watched hours of videos and still had so many questions. I just figured, keep practicing and it will come. Just like you said, I’d leave it for a month or two, then miraculously I’d be better. But this video has truly completed the bits that were missing. Love it! Thank you thank you!!
the last exercise is like a one handed Moller exercise. Thanks for the tips. I've always wanted to learn traditional grip. Your process is very accessible and common sense. Thanks again.
So, Rob, this is a relatively ‘old’ video of yours (you can tell by your Vic Firth tee) but it has, ONCE AGAIN, proven to be invaluable to look back on your previous lessons. I’m basically a match grip player but I started with traditional grip when i was first learning to play and for about 10 years or so thereafter. So, I’m familiar with the technique BUT I haven’t played with it for quite some time. Well, recently i developed carpel tunnel syndrome in my left hand (largely from playing the drums a lot) and have been force to change back to using traditional grip because it’s less strain on the tendons in my left hand. Your instruction here was a blessing to get back into the practical use of the traditional grip, including exercises to make it stronger. I feel much more comfortable with it now. Thank you.
Wow, Mr. Brown, that is the most explicitly detailed description of the traditional technique. You convinced me at 50 to start trying this. I LOVE your lessons. Particularly your style of playing. Thanks man. Regards, Hairman.
this is incredible, absolutely the most in depth, yet easy to understand and comprehensive lesson on the subject I've ever seen. thanks so much Rob. amazing work.
you are the man sir! I have been working on it for a few months on and off getting very frustrated! That "pocket" tip for the thumb was spook awesome! I instantly was able to hold a simple single stroke or double stroke roll! you da man, and thanks for taking the time to explain it super simple!
I've been a drummer for 6 years now. I've idolized many including Rick Allen (to start), Joey Kramer, Todd sucherman and now i'm a big fan of Stewart Copeland. One day I tried the traditional grip but I did it completely wrong XD. I put the stick in between the thumb and pointer finger, but instead of resting it on the ring finger, I rest it on the middle finger. I find that it gives me more power and stability. Now I'm not a very technical player and I just watched your video so I haven't tried the correct version yet but I hope this helps, Thank you!
This is a GREAT tutorial man! I jumped into traditional cold after a lifetime of matched and this was the vid that got me started. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU. I've been at it for a month and I've already gigged this grip. The two biggest stumbling blocks so far are doubles and getting around the kit for soloing. Even those, I can still do some stuff but I have my work cut out for me. Ok, Rob, we need Killer Traditional Part 2! Also, if you give us a PayPal account, I'm not a rich man but I'll happily send you a little $ for your hard work. Anyone who benefits from your vids should. Peace, Adam
+Abstrakt Boombap Very much appreciated, man. If you hit up my website, www.robbrownondrums.com, there's a donation button right on the home page. Thanks for supporting 🙂
And three months later, I finally REMEMBERED to send some $ because ya know, middle age lol. Keep up the great work. Still working on trad grip. It's coming along. Matched grip feels weird now. One idea, for a mini trad update: buzz rolls. I can get the left hand to do multiple bounces. The problem is, once I alternate the hands with even a little speed, the left hand buzz gets choked. Thanks man!
Beatdown Brown your the man!! Your feel is incredible and your explanations are sooo good. I'm 48 and have always struggled to get past being an average drummer, but you sure do give out inspiration in bucket loads. Love your work and please keep 'em coming. Thanks Rob
great video Rob. huge fan of your Channel. cut my hand open in the summer of 2013. lost all sensation to the medial portion of my thumb that I used to contact and hold the stick using match grip on my left hand. this time period happened to coincide with me getting into jazz drumming. as a necessity I transitioned to traditional grip because I found myself dropping the stick using matched grip as I could no longer feel the stick in my hand with my thumb. and so I began the long and arduous journey to where I am today. three and a half years later I can no longer play matched grip. I've gotten so comfortable playing traditional that I no longer have issues with power or control and am at the point where my speed is equal to where I was at 3 years ago with match grip. additionally I found traditional grip offered improve control over match grip when playing rudiments and comping patterns on my snare. to those who are trying to make the transition to traditional grip. it will not be easy and will most likely take several years to reach proficiency. mine came as a necessity but it can just as easily come as a choice. I think JoJo Mayer said it best when he referred to the left hand and the right hand having different voices and using traditional grip allowing each voice to be distinct and unique instead of the same. once you decide to make the transition you can no longer allow yourself to go back to matched grip. You must force yourself no matter how frustrated and angry you are. I recommend Master Studies and Stick Control as supplements to your practice routine as well as several minutes a day spent working on open close technique as I found this improve my double Strokes more than anything else.
Love you man for this video. Just picked up the stick again after a 20 year hiatus. Thanks for doing your diligent research for this video. Keep it going.
Thank You for helping young drummers learn. As an "ex" USMC Drum & Bugle Corp drummer - and an "ex" USMC Band drummer I suggest you check out Buddy, Jim Chapin, and Thomas lang traditional playing. Numerous other greats of course.
Brilliant video Rob! I've been going through this same journey over the past few years and have had moments of realisation concerning all the things in your video, so it's great to hear it all reinforced and clarified. I feel like a lot of the traditional grip masters have a very different perspective on explaining this stuff because they grew up with it and it evolved naturally while they learned the instrument. Which is very different to someone who's played match grip their whole life and is now trying to pick up traditional later on and "earn" it as you said, which really requires putting it under the microscope and focussing in on fundamentals that are probably taken for granted by people who've played traditional their whole lives. A bit like learning a new language, versus trying to explain the grammar rules of your mother tongue to someone when you learned it as a childl!
I liked this video because I feel new drummers should learn and master the 'Traditional Grip". It is the grip I started with some (64) years ago and it has never failed me. After they have done that then they can experiment with mixing the 'Match Grip" with it. There are times when it all comes together.
Great video. I might be missing something but during exercise #1 (at 14.30 ca) - To what extent do you: 1) Consider wrist movement to be necessary? 2) Think continous contact between stick and ring finger is needed? Only support, or active participation? ...and 3) Advocate movement of the thumb? Is it to be fairly stiff in favor of "cradle development" or should it be engaged to a certain extent?
Rob! Thank you go this man! Due to a wrist injury I need to start playing traditional grip and you have totally given me a new lease of life! This video is killer! You perfectly unravel and demystify the technique. You’ve saved me a lot of time, pain and confusion and I can get back to playing again. Deep respect and gratitude
Such insight! Get out of my head man! The call about how the body will settle into its own grip naturally. Is all I needed to hear. Been wantin to have that long finger elvin but may be a short fist fuj. Somewhere in between. Bless you sir
Dude this helped me out so much. I always had a problem where my left hand was never holding and keeping the stick in a correct and comfortable position. I even taught my right hand traditional to see if it would help..... It didn't but this video did. Thank you
Just found this channel. I love your teaching style. In addition to music, I'm a basketball lifer, and as a player and a coach I've always found that breaking things down to their essentials brings the best results. That's kind of hard when you don't know the essentials, which is where you're coming in. I've got a lot of back videos to go through, which is great during the current unbelievable heat wave (112* here in Kansas today)!
I’m 66 and started in 64 (Beatles and Motown). I’ve had some damage to my nerves (thumbs and fingers are numb) and I seem to be letting the sticks slip. This video really helped, thanks!!
Thanks Rob for this video. I have been trying to gain some mastery of the traditional grip for a long time without much progress but after watching your video and practicing your exercises for the last week or so I've already noticed a considerable improvement in control and speed. Thanks for the clarity and detail of your lesson - it was second to none. God bless you, Tim, Ireland.
Hi Rob, great tutorial! Although I learned traditional grip in a Pipe Band 50 years ago, I have recently had some neurological problems, which have resulted in muscle memory/strength/flexibility issues, so I'm having to re-learn/develop new techniques for all my playing. When I set about working on my hands, I realised that, as everything had previously been automatic, I had no real idea how to develop appropriate exercises. I looked at some tutorials, but none of them properly explained the mechanics. Your analysis and explanations, as someone who's come "recently to the party", have proved invaluable. You're a great teacher. I'll go and have a look at your channel, now! See if you have exercises for my left hand. Thanks and Best wishes from Scotland. - Pete PS - It's 25 minutes well spent, folks!
+Stix Corvette Hey Pete. Glad the video helped you out, man. Sorry to hear about your neurological issues. I'm seriously still settling into this grip but I'll try to include a video in the short future on some good left hand stuff you can do on the practice pad. Shout out to Scotland! Greetings from 🇨🇦 🙂
great lesson again rob! Been fumbling with trad grip since i started on drums ... looking forward to strengening specifics parts of my hand with these execsises!
My new teacher just encouraged me to take up traditional grip today. This video is sooooo helpful. Just want to say thanks. You are such a great teacher! I really appreciate your stuff.
Great vid as always. It took me about 3 years, the first time I used it seriously was on a recording. Used it now for 23 years. I like to think of It as continuing the tradition.
Thanks Rob -your doing good works here brother. I’ve been playing for 3 years and have only used traditional grip but I haven’t got a handle on it until I just practised after I watched this video and it’s finally come together. I never realised my ringer finger was a lift for the stick and now I’m able to hit backbeat with full power. So my left and right arms now feel equalised. Thank you very much.
Great video man! I started off playing metal but I'm all about jazz and big band now, so traditional has become my new favorite grip when practicing! I also love that you said you have to earn it which is so true!
Rob, I’m a newbie. I got a Roland V-Drums set for Christmas and it’s been fun tinkering around with them. I started matched as I was under impression most do unless starting out in marching band. Well recently, just because, I tried traditional grip and it feels more natural for me. I started thinking about it and I’ve come to the conclusion that maybe it’s because I’m a guitar player and it resembles similar motion I use to play vibrato on the guitar. Either way, I’ve lots of work to do as my left hand feels weak compared to my right. Thanks for your vids.
LOVED this. I've been playing trad for a while but never felt I had it tweaked. THIS is the information I haven't been able to get-until now-thanks for taking the time to do this ! You helped me tremendously !
Absolutely legendary bro!! I searched every single video about traditional grip on UA-cam just like you did, thanks so much for making this amazing video which explained everything I wanna know!
very informative and straight to the point.. i picked alot from this video since i am more in the match grip playing. ...and also want to play traditional at some time ...since i am self taught... thanks
Same thing is happening to me... searching for videos on trad grip. You're right, beside that most clips are for showing off, none of them explain in detail the role of fingers... thanks so much!!
IF this lesson was coming from anyone else this vidio would be way too long but..You have such a great way of explaining the information that makes it really easy to digest.Youve made a huge positive impact in my playing this past year.Thank you for everything Rob.
Thanks Rob! You are a saint. Matched grip since '76 but I've always appreciated a traditional grip ever since seeing Buddy Rich live in 1976 and films of Krupa (Peter Criss introduced me to Krupa. Sinatra told me to never name-drop...). Traditional grip for me was a sign: "this cat is gonna swing". I know it's an aesthetic thing but it really does pay a tribute to the great early methods.
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Rob: I've been drumming professionally since before your birth. 64 years old, and your vid just helped me with a trad grip problem I've had my entire life. I'm not joking, man--I can now play rim shot backbeats with traditional grip. I've studied with Marv Dahlgren and Elliott Fine, and never heard about "that area of the thumb where the stick fits perfectly. It took me only minutes to correct! Bless your groovy little heart, Rob. Thanks!
same here........... 66 yrs old..........and now I can do that Moeller grip thingy triplet stuff with BOTH hands ........THANK YOU ROB !!!!
Okay you old farts.....now a young guy has something to say.... I'm just a flat out newbie and the 1st grip I will learn is the traditional and I'll learn it mainly from this video. One day I'll show you old geezers how it's done. After all, I'm younger, therefore faster, sharper and only 62 years old. : - )
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"Traditional grip. You have to earn it".Rob, that's the best explanation of the traditional grip ever..
Trad grip is limited. If I 'm wrong swicth your right hand and use two trad grips if it's better? You know I'm right.
Have to "earn" a limitation. Stupid move
@@drummersinger5324 Using a regular grip is way better for the right hand. Most jazz drummers use the French grip (sideways match grip) for it. It's really awkward using trad grip to hit a cymbal really fast.
Why don't we use traditional grip on both hands?: Because that is awkward and inefficient.
Why don't we use a sideways matched grip for the snare drum?: Because that is awkward and inefficient.
Some people like traditional grip better. I'm not arguing against match grip. I use it. I'm just saying that your argument is, for the most part, pointless.
Different hands, different actions, different needs
@@thatonebrokenpixel4889 And there you just admitted one the limitations of the trad grip. It's a useless cymbal riding and crashing grip. This is true. It's also less powerful of a grip. It's also slower than then a regular grip. So anyone with a brain has to be stupid to play a drum set that way.
Lovin' all this great feedback, guys! Please feel free to share this and any other lesson you dig on Facebook and litter Twitter with it! I need your help making our little community grow! 👊🏽
Rob Brown Just shared on our NZ drummers FB page bruh! another great lesson!
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Hi Rob , great vid my man. Common sense approach takes the mystery out of it. Long shot I know but is there any chance of pdf's of the exercises. Thanks
Frank Elia Ha! Perhaps once I get over my mild dislike for flyin' 🙂
Rob Brown Best video I have been able to find. Quick question however. How do you lift the stick with the ring finger? I am not able to do it.
Yo Rob, I've been playing percussions for over 35 years and I have never seen more detailed intricate video on traditional grip. About that little notch in your thumb I always knew it was there I just never paid attention to it like I do now after watching your video. Keep up the fantastic teachings you are phenomenal at what you do. The more detailed the teaching the better the outcome for the student and the teacher. Take all the time it takes and it'll wake the man it makes. My hat's off to you buddy. Peace
I can't stop watching your channel, it is just amazing how clear your explanations are
OMG!! I’m so glad I found you here. You’re sticking and grip exercises are brilliant 🙏🙏thank you so much
If UA-cam had suggested this video sooner, I wouldn't have had to waste so much time trying to learn traditional grip from people that have no idea how to teach music, how to properly communicate musical concepts and even how to film themselves. Thanks for this tutorial, man.
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This is without a doubt the best tutorial on UA-cam. Ridiculously well articulated, not a moment of the 25 minutes is wasted on superfluous talk - all business, with clear instruction about the fundamentals and mechanics of the traditional grip.
I’m a beginner in terms of having zero training, and I believe that with this video alone, and practice, I’ll be able to play with a traditional grip adequately.
I can’t emphasize enough how incredibly helpful the detailed breakdown of what Iwould imagine is every aspect of the traditional grip. There are plenty of videos out there, but they all seem to emphasize advanced techniques (because there is virtually no explanation that I could actually learn from).
Great job, thanks so much for posting!
Glad it helped you out, man 🙂✌🏽
Rob Brown I’m going to go further. Lots of the videos I see on UA-cam, basically, make me want to quit. Literally. I see guys who are awesome drummers and their tutorials lack, as you say, the in depth analysis of how to actually do it. And so I’m flailing around trying to figure out what’s going on, sticks flying everywhere, and after 5 minutes I go do something else.
I may never become a great, or even good drummer, but at least I’ll have the will to give it a shot. I know because my wife has snapped at me twice for practicing and it’s only been a few days.
Thanks again, dead horse kicked.
These are, in my opinion, the most concise, no BS drum videos on UA-cam!
I've been avoiding this video because I told myself many times, I'm DONE f-in with traditional grip -although I still catch myself mindlessly messing with while watching TV. I've been trying get TG happening since I started playing in the '80s but till this day have made little progress. This video has helped me understand the mechanics better than any of my teachers or other videos have and now feel inspired and confident to get back on the horse.
Rob, Your passion for the instrument and your kind, non-judgmental, keep it simple philosophy is a highly infectious virus that I'm happy to catch and eager to spread. Keep on keepin it real my brother.
Thanks man❤️
I'm 57, been hitting things w/ sticks since I was old enuf to empty a wastebasket & turn it upside down. Gave it all up eventually, onedrink or onedrug@ a time, now I'm teaching the old dog new tricks. I really appreciate your easy to follow and informative vid! I'm not a natural student but you're a born teacher, and this tutorial was schooling me from beginning2end. ThankYou for it!!
This is crystal clear, thanks my man
Thanks so much man, it's my goal in band to be a snare drummer, and hopefully one day, captain/section leader for my Drumline. You have given me exactly what I need. Drum on brother.
Learned traditional grip in third grade, played 10 years with it. Abandoned it in the 70's to rock in loud hard bands for 20 years. Picked it up again when venues became smaller and bands played tastier tunes. Besides, Steve Farrone looked so cool using it! I'm back and your video has me groovin' again. Big thanks! You ARE the coolest teacher out there. Peace and love.
Rob: Thanks for your own journey of discovery and then producing such a detailed analysis of traditional grip. I’ve watched many demos by famous, skilled people in an effort to figure out the minute details necessary for developing the skill; your presentation is the only one that's provided the detail and depth of clarification I needed. This tutorial, and your approach to teaching, got me unstuck and is making a meaningful difference.
At nearly 70 and picking up the sticks only three years ago, I haven't enough time left to become I drummer I’d like to be or experience the musical world as deeply and broadly as I'd like; but your presentation will greatly speed my progress and get me farther than otherwise in this journey of discovery, before my curtain drops. Well done, thank you, and if ever in my neck of the woods please reach out!
Single most helpful advice I've had in ages. I'm a returning drummer in my 40s after a long absence and this has really helped me get back into the feel of things. Never cracked trad grip first time round. This time I'm going for it. Thanks Rob!
Rob, One of the "Best Explanations" for traditional grip I have seen in years. Like you I watched other drummers hands to see how they held the sticks and the techniques used. I started out drumming in this style when I was 16 years old. Now I'm 69 and I'm still learning!!
My all time favourite drummer,Joe Morello (RIP) is the guy I used to watch wherever I could. I also played in a Scottish pipe band for a couple of years. That helped tremendously.. There are times I wished I could play match grip as I see some of the speed and flexibility of the style but I always come back to traditional as that is what I know best.
Brian Turner
Rob, I saw Tony, yrs.ago and when he was doing singles, his fingers came off the stick on the left hand. His thumb always stayed back, keeping the fulcrum tight. When playing multiple strokes, the fingers came back on. This was taught to me by Joe Cusatis and Ed Shaughnessy. This is the Henry Adler, Jim Chapin method. I learned the traditional method first, and was told to always play with the fulcrum back, or as you call it, the cradle. If I really want speed , I'll turn my left hand over, and rotate my fingers, like Dennis Chambers does.Anyhow a great lesson. There's a place for both traditional and matched grip.
Finally! All the burning questions answered, breakdowns, examples... This is the video I'd been looking for all year.
Rob, been playing most of my life matched with traditional interspersed. But never really felt comfortable with trad. I watched many of your other video's so I'm familiar with you, but I had to drop a line to you and thank you for such a great simple explanation and exercises to get more comfortable playing trad. Just in the matter of a couple weeks sitting and playing relaxed your 4 exercises I've noticed an improvement. I play in a couple bands. One rock the other Jazz and I really am putting the trad grip to use in the Jazz band. You've made this drummer excited about getting out to the studio and woodshedding traditional. Im having a blast at 71yrs old. Thanks man!!
I have played traditional my whole life. I never thought about the ring finger at all! I always used the first finger and thumb as the motor. Good info
The traditional grip technique that I’ve been playing for the longest time is me trying to transfer my marching snare technique directly over to drum set. This video makes me realize that there are in fact differences watching this whole video helped me become better playing traditional grip for drum set.
You are a great teacher bro. I loved getting the little gold nuggets from this. God bless.
I love the intellectual approach. "Over thinking" if you will. It's how I think, so I love seeing that intellectualizing unfold in these videos, making this channel one of my favorite to learn from.
Great video Rob, About 5 mos. ago, after taking a very long hiatus from drumming, I started to work on the traditional grip as well as every other zillion things needed to be a truly proficient player. You break the dynamics of this grip down to a simple and basic course. There are so many small nuances of everything we do to get the " technique " perfected. It is an evolution. You seem to be a very conscientious guy who has been through all the trial and error to give back to drummers that are on that long
( and rewarding) road of learning these idiosyncratic nuances that have to be ingrained in us. I appreciate you man.
Jimmy R
Hi, all my life I have tried to swap from matched to traditional grip ,I can do it no problems holding the sticks the wrong way around ! As if I was left handed . So you said something that just made a whole heap of sense to me . "The traditional grip is not a natural grip ,you have to earn it !". It has inspired me to keep trying to do it when playing a gig . When my right hand holds the traditional grip I have speed control etc., it shows me what is possible but do it with the left . Aghhhh. One of the best drum lessons I have heard . I had lessons when I was 11 now 62 ! Time flys .Thanks .
Just started watching. How cool is this dude? So real. I shared with my 11 year old daughter cause she just started drums and these videos are so from the heart.
I just want to say... Thank you sooooo much. From the bottom of my heart. so many people don't know how to break through the crap, and usually come from such an arrogant place. This forever changed my view of how to learn traditional grip. And I am a subscriber now!
Finally someone who pays attention to the little details! This is super helpful. I've often wondered, as you did, what EXACTLY goes on in a trad grip. I've grown tired seeing other instructionals going only as far as how to grip and where to put the sticks. Yours is the only one out here that's really helpful in this aspect. Keep it up!
+jaredamoroso Little details. BIG difference. A lot of drum teachers tend to show the how without the why.
Rob Brown agree! Thanks all the way from the Philippines!
I appreciate your helping with this. I'm 56 years old and make my kit/set sing sweetly! I just never felt complete using only matched. I have a metal plate in my left forearm, some pins in my wrist & lost 45% of my elbow due to an auto accident, believe it or not? lol. However! I'm the luckiest man alive. I want to practice these exercises you gave and strengthen that cradle & ring finger. I would like to say, I have taken a couple semesters for drums at our community college. My instructor is a awesome drummer for the United States Army Field Band. He says matched grip is the best and told me that this is the natural movement of the wrist and hands, elbows ect.. Of course he didn't match grip, he played traditional lol
I am from Australia but lived many years in Texas . I was judge at the Drum Off at the Guitar Center and yes I was impressed when traditional grip was used (extra points ) , the trick is make it look easy . We are are all impressed by Buddy and Gene ,they are the inspiration. Thanks again Rob.
I'm fairly new to drumming, the lockdown in Canada inspired me to put the guitar down after 25 years and take up drumming at 43. AND I'M HOOKED. I love your videos and like you have found some good videos on traditional grip but yours did indeed answer a few questions that I couldn't find anywhere. Thank you. Heading to your store now for a shirt to support.
I love you man!!!!!!!
I've always accepted that traditional grip was just one of those things that are simply not me. However, I've always had a burning desire to learn this grip *because it looks so cool* so I finally decided to pick it up since I'm more of a traditionalist; I like old drum kits and old ways of playing. Anywho, after all the books I've looked up, private instruction, you by far had the best explanation. I've learned more through the first five minutes with you than hours with others. When I've barely watched the video, I've learned power!!!!! I mean, I still need ton of practice but at least I now have a solid foundation to work with. Match will always have a place and would probably still be my go to but now, I'm confident that I could learn traditional grip for a fresh stylistic approach for soloing and grooving. THANKS MAN!!!! much love
-Alex
I´ve played traditional grip since -95 and this video actually gave me that little missing piece of the puzzle where suddenly my grip just clicked and everything fell into place... Thanks man! :)
Best instructional channel for drummers of all levels
Rob, just a 46yo recreational drummer here and always wanted to learn this grip. Thank you for taking the time to make this video, it was a good lesson.
Hi Rob - I am a traditional grip player! I have only used this grip since 5th grade!!! Thanks for sharing your story with us!!!!
This is the most straight and to the point video I'm super blessed to have you simplify a lot of concepts that people either gloss too much or try to overcomplicate thank you for all the work you do
I've played traditional grip my whole life (started @ 8 I'm 57), your video's a big help, the stuff I should have been working on all these years. Better late than never. Thanks, solid.
I've been drumming since the mid-60's and I mostly use the traditional grip. Your video is very good. The main exercises that really helped my index finger are doing the triplet rhythm with 3 beats on each hand (RRRLLLRRRLLL, etc. with the accent on the first beat of each triplet. Keeping the pattern going will force your muscle memory to grow. Also, practice with brushes doing the same exercises that you show. You will find your weak spots immediately.
I watched this and I watched Tommy Igoe Great hands for a lifetime and combining the two approach to get me started on traditional grip. I've been looking for traditional grip explanation that is clear enough for me and this explanation from Rob is really clear. This is my third time watching Rob's tutorial, and I combined with what I watched from Tommy Igoe DVD yesterday. This suddenly gives an "AHA" moment, and makes me go practice the traditional grip. They make sense and point me to the right direction where and what to look for to improve. I just started first exercise from Rob, and the bounces really feel natural with the thumb, but I can see this will take time. I hope I my hands can improve in a few years with this. This is really awesome. I didn't see any lessons in Drumeo telling me in details like this what to look for for a beginner in traditional grip like me. I can't wait to watch this again hopefully for the second exercise then the third. Awesome job, Rob! Thanks!
It's kinda the same principle as a whip, but the rotation starts at the shoulder, goes through the elbow, then the wrist and that last ounce of snap comes from the thumb joint, on the downstrokes. Basically, trad grip gives your left hand more strokes with less travel, as the index absorbs the rebound. Try this at home, one hand at a time-with practice your trad left should be nearly twice as fast as your right. Flexibilty in the left thumb and wrist are crucial; you're standard roots music 'train beat' is the classic exercise-I've played in bands where that and polka beats was all you did all night, except for the occasional waltz. Nawlins second line beats are similarly friendly to trad grip. once this sound is in your hands, you can really eff shtuff up! Do it a million times, but listen, compare and make it better. Thanks Rob, for another great lesson!
Feel like I owe this man money. Thanks again rob!
Thorough explanation of how the traditional grip works; how the stick is held and manipulated using three fingers (well two fingers and the thumb). It clears a lot. Nice job. Thank you!
Absolutely amazing. I think I decided to take up traditional grip about a year or 2 ago now. I’ve watched hours of videos and still had so many questions. I just figured, keep practicing and it will come. Just like you said, I’d leave it for a month or two, then miraculously I’d be better. But this video has truly completed the bits that were missing. Love it! Thank you thank you!!
I am getting back into drumming after many years. Thanks Rob ! Can't thank you enough.
By far THE best traditional grip lesson I have come across in my experience! This is It!!
The thumb joint tip completely changed the game for me! instant results! Thanks a lot!!!
the last exercise is like a one handed Moller exercise. Thanks for the tips. I've always wanted to learn traditional grip. Your process is very accessible and common sense. Thanks again.
played for years and never really took much interest in learning this grip - until now! love the video!
So, Rob, this is a relatively ‘old’ video of yours (you can tell by your Vic Firth tee) but it has, ONCE AGAIN, proven to be invaluable to look back on your previous lessons. I’m basically a match grip player but I started with traditional grip when i was first learning to play and for about 10 years or so thereafter. So, I’m familiar with the technique BUT I haven’t played with it for quite some time. Well, recently i developed carpel tunnel syndrome in my left hand (largely from playing the drums a lot) and have been force to change back to using traditional grip because it’s less strain on the tendons in my left hand. Your instruction here was a blessing to get back into the practical use of the traditional grip, including exercises to make it stronger. I feel much more comfortable with it now. Thank you.
This is a video from heaven Rob, I have gone through a lot of traditional grip videos as well but you hit it spot on with this video.Thanks Man!
Wow, Mr. Brown, that is the most explicitly detailed description of the traditional technique. You convinced me at 50 to start trying this. I LOVE your lessons. Particularly your style of playing. Thanks man. Regards, Hairman.
this is incredible, absolutely the most in depth, yet easy to understand and comprehensive lesson on the subject I've ever seen. thanks so much Rob. amazing work.
you are the man sir! I have been working on it for a few months on and off getting very frustrated! That "pocket" tip for the thumb was spook awesome! I instantly was able to hold a simple single stroke or double stroke roll! you da man, and thanks for taking the time to explain it super simple!
I've been a drummer for 6 years now. I've idolized many including Rick Allen (to start), Joey Kramer, Todd sucherman and now i'm a big fan of Stewart Copeland. One day I tried the traditional grip but I did it completely wrong XD. I put the stick in between the thumb and pointer finger, but instead of resting it on the ring finger, I rest it on the middle finger. I find that it gives me more power and stability. Now I'm not a very technical player and I just watched your video so I haven't tried the correct version yet but I hope this helps, Thank you!
Thank you for the beautiful drum video "❤".
God bless you and all your family.
Have a nice day.
thank you.... 🙏 💕
This is a GREAT tutorial man! I jumped into traditional cold after a lifetime of matched and this was the vid that got me started. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU. I've been at it for a month and I've already gigged this grip. The two biggest stumbling blocks so far are doubles and getting around the kit for soloing. Even those, I can still do some stuff but I have my work cut out for me. Ok, Rob, we need Killer Traditional Part 2! Also, if you give us a PayPal account, I'm not a rich man but I'll happily send you a little $ for your hard work. Anyone who benefits from your vids should. Peace, Adam
+Abstrakt Boombap Very much appreciated, man. If you hit up my website, www.robbrownondrums.com, there's a donation button right on the home page. Thanks for supporting 🙂
And three months later, I finally REMEMBERED to send some $ because ya know, middle age lol. Keep up the great work. Still working on trad grip. It's coming along. Matched grip feels weird now. One idea, for a mini trad update: buzz rolls. I can get the left hand to do multiple bounces. The problem is, once I alternate the hands with even a little speed, the left hand buzz gets choked. Thanks man!
that thumb joint problem fixed everything for me, my god bless you.
Thank you, Mr. Brown, for that friendly clear lesson. Best wishes from Germany.
Beatdown Brown your the man!! Your feel is incredible and your explanations are sooo good. I'm 48 and have always struggled to get past being an average drummer, but you sure do give out inspiration in bucket loads. Love your work and please keep 'em coming. Thanks Rob
+Lee Jones Thanks a whole lot for that, man 🙂
great video Rob. huge fan of your Channel. cut my hand open in the summer of 2013. lost all sensation to the medial portion of my thumb that I used to contact and hold the stick using match grip on my left hand. this time period happened to coincide with me getting into jazz drumming. as a necessity I transitioned to traditional grip because I found myself dropping the stick using matched grip as I could no longer feel the stick in my hand with my thumb. and so I began the long and arduous journey to where I am today. three and a half years later I can no longer play matched grip. I've gotten so comfortable playing traditional that I no longer have issues with power or control and am at the point where my speed is equal to where I was at 3 years ago with match grip. additionally I found traditional grip offered improve control over match grip when playing rudiments and comping patterns on my snare. to those who are trying to make the transition to traditional grip. it will not be easy and will most likely take several years to reach proficiency. mine came as a necessity but it can just as easily come as a choice. I think JoJo Mayer said it best when he referred to the left hand and the right hand having different voices and using traditional grip allowing each voice to be distinct and unique instead of the same. once you decide to make the transition you can no longer allow yourself to go back to matched grip. You must force yourself no matter how frustrated and angry you are. I recommend Master Studies and Stick Control as supplements to your practice routine as well as several minutes a day spent working on open close technique as I found this improve my double Strokes more than anything else.
Brand New Traditional user here, just started today which means I have alot me work to do and I learned alot here, so subscribed!
Love you man for this video. Just picked up the stick again after a 20 year hiatus. Thanks for doing your diligent research for this video. Keep it going.
Thank You for helping young drummers learn. As an "ex" USMC Drum & Bugle Corp drummer - and an "ex" USMC Band drummer I suggest you check out Buddy, Jim Chapin, and Thomas lang traditional playing. Numerous other greats of course.
i can finally bounce my left hand over and over .......traditional grip all my life , never to old to learn !!! Playing since 1966
Brilliant video Rob! I've been going through this same journey over the past few years and have had moments of realisation concerning all the things in your video, so it's great to hear it all reinforced and clarified. I feel like a lot of the traditional grip masters have a very different perspective on explaining this stuff because they grew up with it and it evolved naturally while they learned the instrument. Which is very different to someone who's played match grip their whole life and is now trying to pick up traditional later on and "earn" it as you said, which really requires putting it under the microscope and focussing in on fundamentals that are probably taken for granted by people who've played traditional their whole lives. A bit like learning a new language, versus trying to explain the grammar rules of your mother tongue to someone when you learned it as a childl!
+pkunkadrums Well said, man. Thanks for watchin' 🙂
Rob, I wish I had you around when I was first learning traditional grip!!! I may go back to it now!! Thanks.
Fantastic video - best in depth on traditional grip I have seen - will be doing the excercises
I liked this video because I feel new drummers should learn and master the 'Traditional Grip". It is the grip I started with some (64) years ago and it has never failed me. After they have done that then they can experiment with mixing the 'Match Grip" with it. There are times when it all comes together.
I have learned so much and the video is not even over yet, Thank you for sharing
Great video. I might be missing something but during exercise #1 (at 14.30 ca) - To what extent do you:
1) Consider wrist movement to be necessary?
2) Think continous contact between stick and ring finger is needed? Only support, or active participation? ...and
3) Advocate movement of the thumb? Is it to be fairly stiff in favor of "cradle development" or should it be engaged to a certain extent?
Rob! Thank you go this man! Due to a wrist injury I need to start playing traditional grip and you have totally given me a new lease of life! This video is killer! You perfectly unravel and demystify the technique. You’ve saved me a lot of time, pain and confusion and I can get back to playing again. Deep respect and gratitude
Such insight! Get out of my head man!
The call about how the body will settle into its own grip naturally. Is all I needed to hear. Been wantin to have that long finger elvin but may be a short fist fuj. Somewhere in between. Bless you sir
I’m so glad I discovered you and your channel, Rob!
You are helping me so much. I also shared a video of yours with my drumming buddy.
Dude this helped me out so much. I always had a problem where my left hand was never holding and keeping the stick in a correct and comfortable position. I even taught my right hand traditional to see if it would help..... It didn't but this video did. Thank you
Great tute on trad grip explaining clearly what those fingers really do. Thanks man!!
Just found this channel. I love your teaching style. In addition to music, I'm a basketball lifer, and as a player and a coach I've always found that breaking things down to their essentials brings the best results. That's kind of hard when you don't know the essentials, which is where you're coming in. I've got a lot of back videos to go through, which is great during the current unbelievable heat wave (112* here in Kansas today)!
I’m 66 and started in 64 (Beatles and Motown). I’ve had some damage to my nerves (thumbs and fingers are numb) and I seem to be letting the sticks slip. This video really helped, thanks!!
Thanks Rob for this video. I have been trying to gain some mastery of the traditional grip for a long time without much progress but after watching your video and practicing your exercises for the last week or so I've already noticed a considerable improvement in control and speed. Thanks for the clarity and detail of your lesson - it was second to none. God bless you, Tim, Ireland.
Hi Rob, great tutorial! Although I learned traditional grip in a Pipe Band 50 years ago, I have recently had some neurological problems, which have resulted in muscle memory/strength/flexibility issues, so I'm having to re-learn/develop new techniques for all my playing.
When I set about working on my hands, I realised that, as everything had previously been automatic, I had no real idea how to develop appropriate exercises.
I looked at some tutorials, but none of them properly explained the mechanics.
Your analysis and explanations, as someone who's come "recently to the party", have proved invaluable. You're a great teacher.
I'll go and have a look at your channel, now! See if you have exercises for my left hand.
Thanks and Best wishes from Scotland.
- Pete
PS - It's 25 minutes well spent, folks!
+Stix Corvette Hey Pete. Glad the video helped you out, man. Sorry to hear about your neurological issues. I'm seriously still settling into this grip but I'll try to include a video in the short future on some good left hand stuff you can do on the practice pad. Shout out to Scotland! Greetings from 🇨🇦 🙂
Just discovered you're a BC fan! Left a comment on your Heroes vid.
great lesson again rob! Been fumbling with trad grip since i started on drums ... looking forward to strengening specifics parts of my hand with these execsises!
My new teacher just encouraged me to take up traditional grip today. This video is sooooo helpful. Just want to say thanks. You are such a great teacher! I really appreciate your stuff.
You are one of the greats music educators. Thanks for existing!
Great vid as always. It took me about 3 years, the first time I used it seriously was on a recording. Used it now for 23 years. I like to think of It as continuing the tradition.
Thanks Rob -your doing good works here brother.
I’ve been playing for 3 years and have only used traditional grip but I haven’t got a handle on it until I just practised after I watched this video and it’s finally come together. I never realised my ringer finger was a lift for the stick and now I’m able to hit backbeat with full power. So my left and right arms now feel equalised.
Thank you very much.
fantastic...the mistery of strength is lifted now
You’re a groove monster. I like that your triplets even in practice have that grooviness, that almost goes toward samba or something.
Thank you for sharing your insight and incredible gift as an educator
Thanks Rob - after 45 years playing matched grip I'm giving this a go . . . very, very helpful. After a couple of days only, I can feel progress!
Great video man! I started off playing metal but I'm all about jazz and big band now, so traditional has become my new favorite grip when practicing! I also love that you said you have to earn it which is so true!
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Rob, I’m a newbie. I got a Roland V-Drums set for Christmas and it’s been fun tinkering around with them. I started matched as I was under impression most do unless starting out in marching band.
Well recently, just because, I tried traditional grip and it feels more natural for me. I started thinking about it and I’ve come to the conclusion that maybe it’s because I’m a guitar player and it resembles similar motion I use to play vibrato on the guitar.
Either way, I’ve lots of work to do as my left hand feels weak compared to my right. Thanks for your vids.
LOVED this. I've been playing trad for a while but never felt I had it tweaked. THIS is the information I haven't been able to get-until now-thanks for taking the time to do this ! You helped me tremendously !
Absolutely legendary bro!! I searched every single video about traditional grip on UA-cam just like you did, thanks so much for making this amazing video which explained everything I wanna know!
very informative and straight to the point.. i picked alot from this video since i am more in the match grip playing. ...and also want to play traditional at some time ...since i am self taught... thanks
Same thing is happening to me... searching for videos on trad grip. You're right, beside that most clips are for showing off, none of them explain in detail the role of fingers... thanks so much!!
IF this lesson was coming from anyone else this vidio would be way too long but..You have such a great way of explaining the information that makes it really easy to digest.Youve made a huge positive impact in my playing this past year.Thank you for everything Rob.
awesome instruction. Ty. I am a match grip guy. I am gonna start practicing this.
Thanks Rob! You are a saint. Matched grip since '76 but I've always appreciated a traditional grip ever since seeing Buddy Rich live in 1976 and films of Krupa (Peter Criss introduced me to Krupa. Sinatra told me to never name-drop...). Traditional grip for me was a sign: "this cat is gonna swing". I know it's an aesthetic thing but it really does pay a tribute to the great early methods.