Apparently if you hold the battery level button on the case while it's open, it'll smoothly ramp brightness up until it hits turbo. Oddly the flashlight itself doesn't have that feature. In addition, you can press the battery level button on the case to make it charge another device from the internal battery. So you could, for example, charge your phone with it. That's a pretty big deal. I hope you're feeling better than when you recorded this video.
Damn, I had no desire to upgrade until I read that. A generic power bank feature means not carrying a separate one as well. Though a separate one can pack a bigger and longer punch. Do you know which modes it can do? PD? QC?
@@fredio54 I don’t know. The manual only says 5 volt 2.4 amps max for USB-C output. It doesn’t mention protocols. Given the fact it’s always 5 volts, I’m guessing no PD or QC.
I really wish Olight would start using some 519A or SST-20 4000K emitters in these small EDC lights. I have a couple of Batons already so this one's a pass for me.
Yeah high CRI emitter are the only thing I miss now that Olight has started offering dual charging methods (the classic magnetic tailcap + USB-C in the same flashlight). A Nichia 519A or Samsung LH351D in 4000K and 5000K would really be the cherry on top! 👌
High CRI comes at a cost of lumens. Olight isn’t willing to give those lumens up. So for now it’s up to flashlight modders to stick the emitter you want in the Olight model you like.
It would cost them nothing to have it as an option like they used to on their original lines. They 100% know that we have been asking for this for years now so I'm almost certain that they are deliberately using the obnoxious tints as some sort of strange toxicity.
@@cheuleAt least to me that lumen difference is unnoticeable in actual use. I can see why they want to entirely for marketing purposes, they are after all always very accurate with their lumen claims, but it would cost them nothing to offer us a better tint as an option.
How does the 519a impact on runtimes? I did a runtime test with a wurkoss fc11 with 519 and 1100 mah 18350 at 300 lumens and it was trounced by warrior nano at 400 lumens. The nano lasted about an hour longer.
I work in network racks a lot and the Olight Baton3 has been perfect for working in dark racks. Turn it on, slap it to the roof of the rack and it illuminates the entire back end of a rack so I can work on servers. I keep my Baton3 on one of their o-ring magnet mounts hooked onto a belt loop on my khakis so it's always there when I need it. I also have another Baton3 but it's the 90-degree angle one that I can slap on the side of the rack and angle the light right onto the back of a server when I'm working on it. Fantastic lights for rack work.
Too bad the battery display on the case is broken for so many folks. Olight replaced my case three times now, no questions asked. It always reads 100% until it shuts off because the battery dies. According to them, this is common. Well if its common...why do they even sell it anymore.
Yeah, that's the thing with Olight. They'll bring out a new version in a few months and make the previous one look bad. In reality the older versions are equally relevant. The only major upgrade I've seen from them has been the M2R to M2R Pro, I'm still running that light and it's still beating most competitors (mostly on UI, beam pattern and aesthetics) I have no desire for any of the "upgrades" even thought there are 3 or 4 new versions since. I also love the original NW H2R over any of the Peruns easily.
I have the Baton 3 special edition in titanium, the seasons fall version, which I liked the best of the four Olight offered. I am still going to keep it even though the Baton 4 is on the way.
In case of camping, even though it can charge other things, 5000 mah won’t be enough for phone and other stuffs and you might need to bring extra battery bank. In that case, wouldn’t it be better to just take the charging cable? Of cause use cases would be different. Just stating what I think for my use case. Nice detailed video as always. 👍
Thanks for the nice comparison to another new light, the Warrior Nano. I picked up the ODG B4 in this Olight Black Friday sale and it's going to be my first as well.
The case is cool, but I don't know why you would get the case, and not just get a light with a bigger battery. A bigger baton is still a smaller package, but gives you more lumens and candela. I guess if you used the battery pack to charge your phone as well… idk it is really cool, I just don't see a use case for it. Maybe if you always have a bag nearby that the case can sit in, and you set the bag down and keep the tiny light in your pocket?
I'd probably use the case more on a daily basis to top up my phone than the light itself. But I'd be safe knowing there's a powerful little light in there if I need it. With the Baton 3 case, you could argue against getting the case because it didn't charge anything other than the light, but with this the case is a no brainer. That said, I carry at least 4 flashlights all the time anyway but for regular people or if I wanted to trim down my EDC, this would be a great option.
You're right about that. Adding the ability to charge other devices was a great idea. And being able to top up with usb-c is pretty convenient. But I already have a dedicated battery bank that is smaller and 10,000mah. It's a cool gadget for the right person @@krazYFaic
@@sethmichael8188 Basically. Yeah. lol. I carry a Convoy s2 with a 5 degree TIR and 519A 4500K (Thrower, hi-CRI), Sofirn SP10 Pro (not exactly flood but floodier than the Convoy, also hi-CRI), Olight Warrior Nano (in between the first 2), Nitecore MT06MD (hi-CRI) and Olight i3E UV. Most of them are in a pocket organiser with a Nitecore TIKI (Lantern) attached.
If you are never off grid or without a nearby power outlet...or spent any amount of time with a power outage... these cases obviously won't have any use for you. You simply aren't in the market they are aimed at. The primary use case (to me at least) for the old Baton 3 case... was to have a wireless charging station for your light when you are "off grid" or during a power outage. Sure you could have a larger light with a larger battery... but having the ability to separate that capacity from the light means the smaller light is more handy in tight spaces or as a hands free light. For example while illuminating something inside a "cabinet" while maintaining a vending coffee machine... you can get the light directly on the component you are working on behind several other layers of circuit boards a boiler...etc. The batons make great hands free hat lights "because" of how small they are. You can "kinda" do the same with larger lights... but not as comfortably. With the new Baton 4 case... it's just added backwards compatibility to several other existing lights in the same size range. The fact that the case also acts as a battery pack for phones and other devices just makes it better. Here in Florida we have these "little" storms called hurricanes that do incidental stuff like knock out the power for a week when they do enough damage to the grid. Having another other means of keeping my devices going is always nice.
Can’t wait for this to come in as my Christmas gift from my wife. I told her I wanted this to replace my SR2 Baton which she wants now to keep with her.
Its a shame olights mystery emitters are terrible. I get they are efficient while being really bright but the cri is so low it washes out the color and you cant see anything anyways.
As to your point of the point of having the case as the home for the light. I love it. It’s why a like my streamlight stinger so much. I know it’s older and big, but cradle charging is awesome it’s always at 100% because it is either in my hand being used, or it’s in the charger. But this is better in a way because its “home” is portable as well. That being said, the case has its own battery, not mains. So that is a downside compared to a cradle
I like using my baton 3 as a night light in the kitchen, and I like using it when it's inside of the case. The better battery life and bigger case battery made me get a second one, haha plus I wanna keep my dragon and Phoenix baton 3 looking nice. I edc the seeker 4
Baton 4 is my first olight. Not sure if it is the last. Got it because of the charging case and type c. Always on the go and the flashlight is always full whenever I need it. No more extra batteries. It got the throw as well. Loves my new edc. I like this tint though. I do have 519 and all,but Sst40 tint is way more green to me.
I'm not so crazy about the baton 4 button. Yes nice it is metal but I think it needed a grippy pattern on it. It's very slick and smooth. Almost hard to press because it's small. Light output is disappointing too. Very yellowish. Not bright white. I have the green version
Great review - your thoughts beyond the pure review are really helpful. Do you feel this light be suitable for leaving in the center console of a car for emergency use? For that usage, I think I'd prefer more flood (like with the Baton 3), but It seems like this light would be perfect for the aforementioned use case. Thanks for any input!
Appreciate the review. Just to clarify, the slope on the case is to accommodate charging of the Perun Mini series; which I do carry (90° head useful at times) along with the Baton4.
@@cheule olight say the moonlight is the same lumens as the baton 3 but can't be as it's half the brightness it's just too dim I prefer the brightness of the baton 3 moonlight mode
@@digmastersi8026 I was just measuring some lights… I find 0.5lm the brightest I want for ML, preferably under 0.2lm. I tried to measure my Cool Fall Trek, and I have it so low it’s unreadable by my equipment (less than 0.1lm).
The OLight Baton 3 kit Nylon case has always been slightly oversized IMHO. But its flexibility allowed me to make a couple of folds on the flap to house the larger Baton 4 kit. It's not ideal, but workable; unless Olight comes out with a better case for this new kit.
Good review. You made a good argument for carrying the case as opposed to looking for somewhere to charge a standalone flashlight. One question, does the case drain over time when the flashlight is in it ?
Based on my general knowledge of olight’s batteries: no. Their proprietary batteries have the positive and negative terminals on the same end (not one at each end like normal).
If one owns the wonderful little Baton 3, is 200 more lumens and a gimmicky power switch worth another $65 of one's highly-prioritized holiday budget? I ask you.
Well, the new case is a really big improvement in almost every way, and that is just on top of the power level indicator and segmented power indicator on the 4.
And it can use the baton 3 and perun headlamp. This is the one to get. I passed on the baton3 for a while. But this is a great package for backpackers.
I still don't see the point in carrying this whole rectangular case over a 21700 light. You'd have better ergonomics, longer-running high modes and the ability to replace the battery when it wears out after a couple of years and I'm still pretty sure that it would fit better in a bag. Also, I already carry a battery pack for other things daily, I can just plug my USB-C lights straight into that.
I think you are going through the same “story arc” I went though…. I didn’t understand how small this light was until I got one. It’s astoundingly small. And of course the charging case makes the battery feel much bigger than it is.
I just repeated your words that I found funny watching your review. I didn't mean any harm. You are one of my main sources of info since I tumbled down the flashlight hole. Peace
Damn low CRI cool white again though! Not even the option to choose neutral despite the fact that it would be almost no effort on their part and the light would almost certainly sell better and be more enjoyable for the user as a result. I swear Olight are doing this just to be toxic at this point.
Apparently if you hold the battery level button on the case while it's open, it'll smoothly ramp brightness up until it hits turbo. Oddly the flashlight itself doesn't have that feature.
In addition, you can press the battery level button on the case to make it charge another device from the internal battery. So you could, for example, charge your phone with it. That's a pretty big deal.
I hope you're feeling better than when you recorded this video.
These are both true, and great points to add!
Damn, I had no desire to upgrade until I read that. A generic power bank feature means not carrying a separate one as well. Though a separate one can pack a bigger and longer punch. Do you know which modes it can do? PD? QC?
@@fredio54 I don’t know. The manual only says 5 volt 2.4 amps max for USB-C output. It doesn’t mention protocols. Given the fact it’s always 5 volts, I’m guessing no PD or QC.
I really wish Olight would start using some 519A or SST-20 4000K emitters in these small EDC lights. I have a couple of Batons already so this one's a pass for me.
Yeah high CRI emitter are the only thing I miss now that Olight has started offering dual charging methods (the classic magnetic tailcap + USB-C in the same flashlight).
A Nichia 519A or Samsung LH351D in 4000K and 5000K would really be the cherry on top! 👌
High CRI comes at a cost of lumens. Olight isn’t willing to give those lumens up. So for now it’s up to flashlight modders to stick the emitter you want in the Olight model you like.
It would cost them nothing to have it as an option like they used to on their original lines. They 100% know that we have been asking for this for years now so I'm almost certain that they are deliberately using the obnoxious tints as some sort of strange toxicity.
@@cheuleAt least to me that lumen difference is unnoticeable in actual use. I can see why they want to entirely for marketing purposes, they are after all always very accurate with their lumen claims, but it would cost them nothing to offer us a better tint as an option.
How does the 519a impact on runtimes? I did a runtime test with a wurkoss fc11 with 519 and 1100 mah 18350 at 300 lumens and it was trounced by warrior nano at 400 lumens. The nano lasted about an hour longer.
I work in network racks a lot and the Olight Baton3 has been perfect for working in dark racks. Turn it on, slap it to the roof of the rack and it illuminates the entire back end of a rack so I can work on servers. I keep my Baton3 on one of their o-ring magnet mounts hooked onto a belt loop on my khakis so it's always there when I need it. I also have another Baton3 but it's the 90-degree angle one that I can slap on the side of the rack and angle the light right onto the back of a server when I'm working on it. Fantastic lights for rack work.
Great use-case.
hehehe rack work.
How's the button on the Baton 4? Is it "wobbly" like on the Seeker 4 Mini or is it more firm and stable like on the Warrior Mini 3?
It’s metallic and firm like WM3
Battery not being user replaceable makes this case a paperweight eventually.
Too bad the battery display on the case is broken for so many folks.
Olight replaced my case three times now, no questions asked. It always reads 100% until it shuts off because the battery dies.
According to them, this is common.
Well if its common...why do they even sell it anymore.
Ha ha, got my baton 3 premium just 2 weeks ago, of course there's a new model out :-D
Isn’t that always the way!
Yeah, that's the thing with Olight. They'll bring out a new version in a few months and make the previous one look bad. In reality the older versions are equally relevant. The only major upgrade I've seen from them has been the M2R to M2R Pro, I'm still running that light and it's still beating most competitors (mostly on UI, beam pattern and aesthetics) I have no desire for any of the "upgrades" even thought there are 3 or 4 new versions since. I also love the original NW H2R over any of the Peruns easily.
Literally same
I have the Baton 3 special edition in titanium, the seasons fall version, which I liked the best of the four Olight offered. I am still going to keep it even though the Baton 4 is on the way.
I was on the fence.. But you pushed over and just ordered mine !!!! Thank you !!!
In case of camping, even though it can charge other things, 5000 mah won’t be enough for phone and other stuffs and you might need to bring extra battery bank. In that case, wouldn’t it be better to just take the charging cable? Of cause use cases would be different. Just stating what I think for my use case.
Nice detailed video as always. 👍
I’d rather bring a USB-C than an MCC proprietary cable, there’s the difference. I can charge the light and my phone with 1 cable.
Just got mine, can you look at the figure 13-2 of the manual
Is there a typo for battery level indicator ?
The case also has USB-C out. Meaning you can charge your cell phone with it or other electronics.
Man brother! The airel shot looks amazing. Wish more reviewers would do this! So awesome
Thanks for mentioning it. It’s kind of a PITA, so it’s glad to hear you like it.
0:45 is that really a VFD and not just a blue LED display? I'd imagine you'd want something less power hungry than a VFD for a battery indicator.
Thanks for the nice comparison to another new light, the Warrior Nano. I picked up the ODG B4 in this Olight Black Friday sale and it's going to be my first as well.
Wow! You've really upped your game. The aerial shots are very helpful. Now you have to go back and re-do your flashlight videos for the past year. LOL
Don’t make me cry!
Now it’s time to take it outside, see how it does in the wilderness….
lol!
The case is cool, but I don't know why you would get the case, and not just get a light with a bigger battery. A bigger baton is still a smaller package, but gives you more lumens and candela. I guess if you used the battery pack to charge your phone as well… idk it is really cool, I just don't see a use case for it. Maybe if you always have a bag nearby that the case can sit in, and you set the bag down and keep the tiny light in your pocket?
I'd probably use the case more on a daily basis to top up my phone than the light itself. But I'd be safe knowing there's a powerful little light in there if I need it. With the Baton 3 case, you could argue against getting the case because it didn't charge anything other than the light, but with this the case is a no brainer.
That said, I carry at least 4 flashlights all the time anyway but for regular people or if I wanted to trim down my EDC, this would be a great option.
You're right about that. Adding the ability to charge other devices was a great idea. And being able to top up with usb-c is pretty convenient. But I already have a dedicated battery bank that is smaller and 10,000mah. It's a cool gadget for the right person
@@krazYFaic
@@krazYFaic 4 flashlights? For what? Thrower, flooder, high cri, and uv? Lol
@@sethmichael8188 Basically. Yeah. lol. I carry a Convoy s2 with a 5 degree TIR and 519A 4500K (Thrower, hi-CRI), Sofirn SP10 Pro (not exactly flood but floodier than the Convoy, also hi-CRI), Olight Warrior Nano (in between the first 2), Nitecore MT06MD (hi-CRI) and Olight i3E UV. Most of them are in a pocket organiser with a Nitecore TIKI (Lantern) attached.
If you are never off grid or without a nearby power outlet...or spent any amount of time with a power outage... these cases obviously won't have any use for you. You simply aren't in the market they are aimed at.
The primary use case (to me at least) for the old Baton 3 case... was to have a wireless charging station for your light when you are "off grid" or during a power outage. Sure you could have a larger light with a larger battery... but having the ability to separate that capacity from the light means the smaller light is more handy in tight spaces or as a hands free light. For example while illuminating something inside a "cabinet" while maintaining a vending coffee machine... you can get the light directly on the component you are working on behind several other layers of circuit boards a boiler...etc.
The batons make great hands free hat lights "because" of how small they are. You can "kinda" do the same with larger lights... but not as comfortably.
With the new Baton 4 case... it's just added backwards compatibility to several other existing lights in the same size range. The fact that the case also acts as a battery pack for phones and other devices just makes it better. Here in Florida we have these "little" storms called hurricanes that do incidental stuff like knock out the power for a week when they do enough damage to the grid.
Having another other means of keeping my devices going is always nice.
Just got a Baton 4 yesterday. I'm very impressed. Great thorough, detailed video.
Awesome! Thank you!
Can’t wait for this to come in as my Christmas gift from my wife. I told her I wanted this to replace my SR2 Baton which she wants now to keep with her.
I'd rather have the larger EDC and battery capacity, you can easily carry a spare 18650 or whatever in your pocket.
I would love to be able to use the little Baton lights, but the light is just too green. I have trouble seeing detail with light that green.
Its a shame olights mystery emitters are terrible. I get they are efficient while being really bright but the cri is so low it washes out the color and you cant see anything anyways.
As to your point of the point of having the case as the home for the light. I love it. It’s why a like my streamlight stinger so much. I know it’s older and big, but cradle charging is awesome it’s always at 100% because it is either in my hand being used, or it’s in the charger. But this is better in a way because its “home” is portable as well. That being said, the case has its own battery, not mains. So that is a downside compared to a cradle
Obviously I agree!
Oh but the thunderstorm mode is just the best and you can dim the light up and down while in the case..Big Up Olight..✌️
You’re not wrong!
I like using my baton 3 as a night light in the kitchen, and I like using it when it's inside of the case. The better battery life and bigger case battery made me get a second one, haha plus I wanna keep my dragon and Phoenix baton 3 looking nice. I edc the seeker 4
I don’t mind edcing large lights either!
Baton 4 is my first olight. Not sure if it is the last. Got it because of the charging case and type c. Always on the go and the flashlight is always full whenever I need it. No more extra batteries. It got the throw as well. Loves my new edc. I like this tint though. I do have 519 and all,but Sst40 tint is way more green to me.
I wish the case was less slippery on this, my only complaint tbh
I'm not so crazy about the baton 4 button. Yes nice it is metal but I think it needed a grippy pattern on it. It's very slick and smooth. Almost hard to press because it's small. Light output is disappointing too. Very yellowish. Not bright white. I have the green version
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Great review - your thoughts beyond the pure review are really helpful. Do you feel this light be suitable for leaving in the center console of a car for emergency use? For that usage, I think I'd prefer more flood (like with the Baton 3), but It seems like this light would be perfect for the aforementioned use case. Thanks for any input!
Appreciate the review. Just to clarify, the slope on the case is to accommodate charging of the Perun Mini series; which I do carry (90° head useful at times) along with the Baton4.
Nice light, but too expensive for the size. It's $15-$20 overpriced. The Zippo style case is a cool gimmick, but the light itself could be a keychain.
What’s up my bud have you done the olight diffuse this light is insane
The moonlight mode on the baton 4 is half the brightness as the baton 3 a bit disappointed to be honest
How can a lower moonlight not be better?
@@cheule olight say the moonlight is the same lumens as the baton 3 but can't be as it's half the brightness it's just too dim I prefer the brightness of the baton 3 moonlight mode
@@digmastersi8026 I was just measuring some lights… I find 0.5lm the brightest I want for ML, preferably under 0.2lm. I tried to measure my Cool Fall Trek, and I have it so low it’s unreadable by my equipment (less than 0.1lm).
Will the Baton 4 fit in the baton 3 case and charge?
Yes
The OLight Baton 3 kit Nylon case has always been slightly oversized IMHO. But its flexibility allowed me to make a couple of folds on the flap to house the larger Baton 4 kit. It's not ideal, but workable; unless Olight comes out with a better case for this new kit.
I don't know where to ask but will you be reviewing the Fireflies X1L sample?
Is the bezel the same setup as the baton 3? They were a pita to get off without scratching and marking it
Can you use the baton 4 in the baton 3 case?
Yes
I'd love to see a video on the Manker u22 iii, as it seems to be a good possible pocket thrower.
Thanks for having me on, this was a fun episode ;)
Good review. You made a good argument for carrying the case as opposed to looking for somewhere to charge a standalone flashlight. One question, does the case drain over time when the flashlight is in it ?
@@sthrngunz Thanks for your response
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Can you clarify what you said @3:57… will any other 16340 work in the Baton?
Based on my general knowledge of olight’s batteries: no. Their proprietary batteries have the positive and negative terminals on the same end (not one at each end like normal).
I love the moonlight mode... Most often used for sure. :) Great vid, thanks!
What is better about the baton 4 compared to the baton 3?
You missed some features bud.
If one owns the wonderful little Baton 3, is 200 more lumens and a gimmicky power switch worth another $65 of one's highly-prioritized holiday budget? I ask you.
Well, the new case is a really big improvement in almost every way, and that is just on top of the power level indicator and segmented power indicator on the 4.
And it can use the baton 3 and perun headlamp. This is the one to get. I passed on the baton3 for a while. But this is a great package for backpackers.
don't ask in good conscience, he's just trying to sell a product
Of course it isn't. Unless you need a second light with the same kind of performance envelope, or want to sell/give away the B3
@@sethmichael8188 Yes, exactly, now I can finally charge my Baton 4, my Baton 3, my Perun Mini and my Perun 2 Mini all in one case! Awesome!
Does the case take PD?
I will hook it up to my usb tester and make a short. Look for it later today.
I still don't see the point in carrying this whole rectangular case over a 21700 light. You'd have better ergonomics, longer-running high modes and the ability to replace the battery when it wears out after a couple of years and I'm still pretty sure that it would fit better in a bag. Also, I already carry a battery pack for other things daily, I can just plug my USB-C lights straight into that.
I think you are going through the same “story arc” I went though…. I didn’t understand how small this light was until I got one. It’s astoundingly small.
And of course the charging case makes the battery feel much bigger than it is.
"You can charge that in very quickly" (:
Peace
Can you elaborate on what you mean?
I just repeated your words that I found funny watching your review. I didn't mean any harm. You are one of my main sources of info since I tumbled down the flashlight hole.
Peace
Just take all the Olights camping lol
Looks like the SST40
The level of green bears that out as well
Does a uv arkfeld fit in the case?
Damn low CRI cool white again though! Not even the option to choose neutral despite the fact that it would be almost no effort on their part and the light would almost certainly sell better and be more enjoyable for the user as a result. I swear Olight are doing this just to be toxic at this point.
they're pulling an Apple maneuver. when they finally make high CRI an option we will all fall for it and buy them.
@@AmnesiaTannerExactly. And they'll market it as something ultra-special too no doubt.
Great informative video mate!!
Any chance you have the dimensions of the charging case?
I’ll post a short about the case charging protocols and dimension tomorrow.