Casey Anthony's aunt breaks silence

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  • @OhHesCracked
    @OhHesCracked 6 років тому +500

    The Casey Anthony was the biggest miscarriage of justice sine OJ Simpson.

    • @Boistyle34
      @Boistyle34 4 роки тому

      @D G it was a huge miscarriage, you’re an idiot.

    • @htconex19062012
      @htconex19062012 4 роки тому

      Haha

    • @Ak907Queen
      @Ak907Queen 4 роки тому +4

      After all one of the investigators for casey anthony was also on the OJ case also

    • @haunted1212
      @haunted1212 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ak907Queen which investigator ?

    • @FreddieBlaze
      @FreddieBlaze 3 роки тому

      @@Boistyle34 aaa

  • @miryamishot
    @miryamishot 11 років тому +633

    Poor little girl never stood a chance with a mother like that.

    • @nme.00104
      @nme.00104 4 роки тому +1

      💯👍👏👌

    • @annahkurtin9665
      @annahkurtin9665 4 роки тому +1

      Which little girl never stood a chance?
      How did Casey become a criminal? Did it occur on the morning of the 16th of June 2008?

    • @staceycabral2379
      @staceycabral2379 4 роки тому +5

      @J CLINE Casey's parents should have adopted their grandaughter and this may not have happened.

    • @YelenaBlanka
      @YelenaBlanka 3 роки тому +3

      @@annahkurtin9665 girl whaaat?!

    • @klarge24
      @klarge24 2 роки тому

      @@annahkurtin9665 come on man…,she made up her whole story… her own dad said that her trunk smelled like a dead body, she googled “foolproof suffocation”, she made up people and places as to where she left her daughter, she wrote in her diary that she’s happy with her decision and that the time after I and everybody else knows that she killed her was that she was the happiest she had been. She didn’t want her daughter she wanted to be free and party her life away. Her lawyer unfortunately was a vicious manipulative monster as she was and they swindled the jury. At least one of the jurors has come out and said he regrets his decision to acquit her. Our justice system is a joke

  • @Benderrr111
    @Benderrr111 8 років тому +518

    Typical sociopath.. stealing and lying without any shame or remorse. I had a flatmate who was exactly like that. Thank goodness I got rid of him in time... anyone with no shame and conscience is capable of just about everything, including murder. Casey was an absolute psycho, should have been sent to prison for life.

    • @sinembaybee
      @sinembaybee 8 років тому +10

      Bender Bending Rodriguez agreed.

    • @ashleynave6082
      @ashleynave6082 7 років тому +14

      Bender Bending Rodriguez I still believe she is guilty.

    • @Barbie-gg3fx
      @Barbie-gg3fx 6 років тому +3

      Bender Bending Rodriguez agree 100%

    • @DianaRoseYanni
      @DianaRoseYanni 5 років тому +14

      "Stealing and lying without any shame and remorse" That's my cousin. One time, we caught him with something and he lied with no shame. It was so unbelievable seeing his face. If he wasn't caught, you would 100% believe that he did not do it. He lies like it's nothing. He also lost my favorite thing ever and when I was hysterical and asked him to go back to the place where he lost it. He gave me that "i don't give a sh*t, you're bothering me facial expression" He acted so annoyed and he did not give no damn that he lost something very expensive and valuable to me. The most annoying facial expression ever. It was 100% b*tchy attitude and facial expression. He even rolled his eyes like wtf? He also told me a lot of fake stories, he probably thought I was stupid to believe them but I was actually being so pissed and disgusted by him when I was hearing those lies. Liars get on my nerves. He even told lies about people, our neighbors. I really can't stand him. He is so fake :( We used to be close when we were kids but now we secretly(or maybe it isn't secret) hate each other. We don't even talk anymore. I hope he changes, he stole laptop and money at his school too. He really has no shame. Some people don't care about their reputation. I can't believe there are people like him in this world. I would not be shocked if he murders someone, hopefully it would never happen. Sociopaths and psychopaths scare me, you may not know you are dealing with them as they are usually charismatic just like my cousin. Crazy.

    • @AvecPoesie
      @AvecPoesie 5 років тому +6

      @@DianaRoseYanni I relate completely. It is absolutely for the best that you don't speak. No contact is the only way to deal with such psychopaths and narcissists. I too have been devastated by a relatives thievery. They will never understand nor care how much what they stole meant to you. Stay strong in the conviction to never let that person or anyone like him in your life again.

  • @lindamulholland8512
    @lindamulholland8512 5 років тому +326

    Casey was jealous of her own little girl !

  • @elainesingletary4905
    @elainesingletary4905 5 років тому +350

    The world knows Casey killed That baby

    • @zedongthien9214
      @zedongthien9214 4 роки тому +13

      even if she not did it by her own hands. its her fault. you cannot drug a little kid to make it sleeping and leave it alone at home. a million things can happen.

    • @isolatedsomber8577
      @isolatedsomber8577 3 роки тому +7

      @@legally_ellecee 31 days? She could have just told the police about that since it was just an accident? And looking about her interviews, she doesn't care about her child.

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 3 роки тому +2

      @@isolatedsomber8577 - It is obvious that there was an attempt to conceal the death from authorities. The question is: Why and who wanted the concealment? The answer to this will explain a great deal about Ms. Anthony's behavior.
      Assuming it was due to a murder taking place puts 'the cart before the horse' and achieves nothing. There are many reasons for the concealment of a death.

    • @toldyabro2786
      @toldyabro2786 3 роки тому +3

      Even the defense knew.

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 3 роки тому

      @@toldyabro2786 - _"Even the defense knew"_ what?

  • @roberttaylor6694
    @roberttaylor6694 4 роки тому +222

    The fact that her parents want nothing to do with her speaks volumes!

    • @jamescobrien
      @jamescobrien 3 роки тому +6

      Casey was spoiled rotten by her mom, dad, and aunt. They are all heavy into make belief. I see why Casey became a pathological liar, ie. her family's behavior. Do I think she 1st degree murdered her family? No. I do l, however, believe Casey committed "manslaughter" or 2nd degree, neglect, and obstruction of justice. The jury was stupid to not make anything stick.

    • @lelelove4300
      @lelelove4300 3 роки тому +5

      Who would want to, she's EVIL 😈 & the attorney who represented that devil. THEY BOTH WILL HAVE THEIR DAY SOON.

    • @roberttaylor6694
      @roberttaylor6694 3 роки тому +1

      @@lelelove4300 AGREED!

    • @kaylamk33
      @kaylamk33 3 роки тому +14

      Exactly my point they said the trunk smelled like a dead body

    • @jamescobrien
      @jamescobrien 3 роки тому +9

      @@kaylamk33 Yeah, she definitely buried her daughter. I don't think she murdered her daughter but manslaughter or neglect, as well as obstruction of justice for burying her daughter. Then partying after the fact, shows cold heattednesssin obstruction of justice.

  • @ninihamm8810
    @ninihamm8810 11 років тому +125

    Never call her "mother" call her MURDERER

    • @SMA1mommy
      @SMA1mommy 5 років тому +2

      True words spoken

    • @kevinrichards3288
      @kevinrichards3288 4 роки тому +1

      @Drod lol

    • @heatherg1706
      @heatherg1706 4 роки тому

      nini hamm
      She was never convicted.
      She gave birth to the child. She’s a mom. 🤷‍♀️

    • @billstanley7546
      @billstanley7546 2 роки тому

      @@heatherg1706 Heather G she is still a murderer but just Not convicted.

  • @bunnyfish714
    @bunnyfish714 8 років тому +83

    Casey is guilty,no question

  • @TrishaBoop
    @TrishaBoop 10 років тому +281

    Calling her "TOT MOM" is insulting to the little baby girl Caylee

    • @teardr0pinfinity371
      @teardr0pinfinity371 6 років тому +13

      Trisha Boop I agree

    • @beverlybalius9303
      @beverlybalius9303 6 років тому +12

      Trisha Boop Whats wrong with you people?? Tot Mom is the fkn Murderer....Not the baby!! Duh!!

    • @leila7524
      @leila7524 6 років тому +17

      She's Caylee's mom, not tot mom

    • @jeannettedodge5886
      @jeannettedodge5886 6 років тому +12

      Leila yes agreed that precious baby had a name, which she deserved to be spoken about by her name. ❤❤

    • @localandonlinepreciousmeta3575
      @localandonlinepreciousmeta3575 6 років тому +24

      Those correcting Trisha ..... Trisha is saying the baby has a name and isn’t Tot. She deserved to have her name spoken is what she’s saying. How can you not understand this?

  • @nolovebraddock1131
    @nolovebraddock1131 5 років тому +63

    Can’t believe she is free.

  • @angelsimone1278
    @angelsimone1278 9 років тому +130

    The photos of Caylee is heartbreaking! RIP Caylee your with Jesus now!

  • @iadorenewyork1
    @iadorenewyork1 3 роки тому +59

    The footage of the little girl with her relative in the nursing home is beautiful. Callie seems to have loved her great grandad.

  • @awiimurphy4561
    @awiimurphy4561 7 років тому +157

    She got away with Murder of her baby omg !!

  • @MrAlohaWildMan
    @MrAlohaWildMan 7 років тому +143

    I hate how Casey Anthony is rich now from interviews after killing her child. She stole from family and robbed an innocent child of life and now got what she always wanted all along... money. Unbelievable.

    • @bappin9799
      @bappin9799 6 років тому +31

      Mr. Aloha No,she is actually broke, she filed her bankruptcy in 2013 . She basically lives a very normal life,enough money to live but not enough money to do anything. She can't do anything else either because everywhere she goes,people recognize her devil face .

    • @chab1rd155
      @chab1rd155 5 років тому +8

      @@bappin9799 good!!!

    • @queenpinkharley3334
      @queenpinkharley3334 5 років тому +9

      Casey Anthony is a monster.

    • @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053
      @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053 4 роки тому +11

      She robbed her friends too. She is a thief, a non-convicted killer, a liar, spoiled, and so much more, she doesn’t deserve to be part of society again, because this wannabe-woman never served time in prison for the crimes she committed. No one served time for the death of Caylee Anthony and that’s the saddest thing about all of this.

    • @karayoung4411
      @karayoung4411 Рік тому

      I highly doubt she is rich 😢

  • @alabamamothman2986
    @alabamamothman2986 5 років тому +42

    How a jury could let her off is insane. That prosecutor is insane.

    • @katdee8328
      @katdee8328 Рік тому +1

      She was sleeping with him.

    • @NikkiNole
      @NikkiNole Рік тому +2

      ​@@katdee8328sleeping with her defense attorney.

  • @thecrazypope3712
    @thecrazypope3712 4 роки тому +30

    If Cindy had let grandma have Casey arrested when she stole money, Caylee might have been alive today.

  • @truthfullness4157
    @truthfullness4157 5 років тому +65

    Hate the way Nancy keeps saying"tot mom". The child had a name..and it wasn't "TOT"!!!

  • @wesleyogilvie8105
    @wesleyogilvie8105 10 років тому +314

    Don't worry people, justice ALWAYS prevails one way or another.

    • @keithstoltzfus645
      @keithstoltzfus645 7 років тому +14

      wesley ogilvie shell answer to God. Which will b way worse for her than anything that happens here...n it'll b for eternity

    • @Xplorer228
      @Xplorer228 6 років тому +10

      Keep telling yourself that.

    • @polarbearsrus6980
      @polarbearsrus6980 6 років тому +12

      the prosecutor did not make the case, the jurors didn't understand some of the terms...it was a farce. Casey is a narcissistic sociopath, no doubt about it.

    • @donnadunn7485
      @donnadunn7485 6 років тому

      wesley ogilvie m

    • @deoglemnaco7025
      @deoglemnaco7025 5 років тому

      And it did. She is INNOCENT

  • @charlesbishop7583
    @charlesbishop7583 6 років тому +32

    It was apparent from the beginning how Casey killed her own child. She is known to be a party hearty girl and she came home one morning after partying out late and wanted to sleep it off. Her mother and daddy, who were helping her to take care of Caylee, had left for work before the baby woke up and could not be there for her. When the baby tried to wake her mother up to be fed and her needs taken care of, Casey, instead, got angry because she was hung over and did not want to be bothered. When Caylee continued to try to get her mother up, Casey, in one of her fits of anger jumped up, went out to the garage, and grabbed a roll of duct tape and wrapped it around her daughters' head and went back to sleep. The baby died. When Casey awoke, she found what she had done and tried to cover things up. First; She borrowed a shovel from the next door neighbor to bury the body next to the playhouse in the back yard. Second; After being gone for a couple of days, she went back and dug up the body and put it in the trunk of her car and drove around with it until she could figure out where and how to dispose of it. The rest is known history. Cindy Anthony is just as guilty of the murder of Caylee as her murderous daughter. The way she coddles her and makes up excuses for her is unconscionable. Had she been a better parent, this would never happen.

    • @UnitedSoundVideo
      @UnitedSoundVideo 3 роки тому

      Sad but true.

    • @tinfoilhatcovidiot
      @tinfoilhatcovidiot 2 роки тому

      It's not the mothers fault at all. How dare you.
      When your daughter is mentally unwell, it isn't easy to protect someone and teach someone that has no capacity to learn.. or understand what a normal person would.
      You are just a judgemental soul with no capacity of your own to understand anything outside of judgement.
      So don't get on your high horse like you are the authority on what is correct.. because it isn't black and white.

  • @laurahandy7313
    @laurahandy7313 8 років тому +242

    But why she got a way with murder her own daughter? were is justice for the innocent one?

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 8 років тому +1

      +Laura Handy How did you find out there was a murder?

    • @keithstoltzfus645
      @keithstoltzfus645 7 років тому +28

      Laura Handy. She did NOT get away w it....she will answer to God and spend eternity in HELL...........ETERNITY!!!!!

    • @melasoomarie952
      @melasoomarie952 7 років тому +39

      because the jury was full of dumbass

    • @cubanita365
      @cubanita365 6 років тому +5

      Because A) here is the US, a court ruling is not based on if someone is really guilty or innocent, but on how much evidence can be presented at court to prove your case. And B) jurors have to be people that aren't involved with the case and who either don't know anything about it, or very little. Because this was such a big case in the area in Florida where it took place, they had to get jurors from other towns much further away that didn't know very much about the case, which was hard to find, because this was such a big case and had been in the media a lot already for 3 years before it even made it to court. They had to really really search for people who knew very little about the Anthonys.

    • @nofly2880
      @nofly2880 6 років тому +10

      Laura Handy BECAUSE THE ONES THAT LET HER OFF NEEDED A LAY AND BLO JOB!! THEY WERE TO STUPID TO GO WITH THE HARD CORE PROOF THAT WAS LAID OUT IN THE COURT ROOM BY STATE!

  • @flauwegeit
    @flauwegeit 8 років тому +109

    In my opinion the trail was a complete joke .. There was clear proof of chloroform used on a 3 yr old child to knock her out , plus all the rest yet there was no neglect ? I´m with you all, I´m so appalled .. and sad for the little girl

    • @jacquelinenack573
      @jacquelinenack573 5 років тому +6

      Duck tape wrapped around their face and head💔😭🕊

    • @nme.00104
      @nme.00104 4 роки тому +5

      it was set-up like o.j.'s jury, the defense was promising them book deal's, t.v. interviews etc. nothing came from it all like o.j.'s jury. one of the juror's, jennifer meyers did a t.v. interview saying jose baez and j. cheney mason were saying if the jury were to find her not guilty they would make a lot of money from the verdict.

    • @gaysy1st
      @gaysy1st 3 роки тому +5

      @@nme.00104 That is disgusting!

    • @gaysy1st
      @gaysy1st Рік тому +2

      I think she had to be charged with neglect, to be found guilty of neglect. But because they went for the higher charge of first degree murder, they had to find on that count. Neglect wasn't mentioned, which is shame, because she'd have definitely done prison time for that.

    • @flauwegeit
      @flauwegeit Рік тому +1

      @@nme.00104 w o w . .

  • @PatrickMHoey
    @PatrickMHoey 4 роки тому +160

    The “least” guilty answer is Casey accidentally overdosed her daughter using Xanax (which explains where “Zanny the Nanny” came from). There’s no scenario that makes sense where Casey Anthony wasn’t responsible for the death of her daughter.

    • @Beachandpool
      @Beachandpool 4 роки тому +15

      Why tape on mouth then?

    • @PatrickMHoey
      @PatrickMHoey 4 роки тому +16

      Night Owl My bet is to stage it as a kidnap/murder if her body were ever found. She continued to deny knowing where the child was, so this could make it look like she was killed by who ever had taken her. She was definitely not a brilliant person, but she managed to escape life in prison and make people around her fall for her manipulation for most her life.

    • @Beachandpool
      @Beachandpool 4 роки тому +6

      @@PatrickMHoey ok, but then why did she dump the body right next to her house if it's a pretend kidnapping...? Totally dig your theory about 'zanny-the-nanny'.

    • @Beachandpool
      @Beachandpool 4 роки тому +5

      rageahol7---name of channel, Furhman---name of video. I was just watching this video on UA-cam channel called 'rageahol' and it's on Jonbenet Ramsey murder and Furhman or the interviewer said---'duct tape was placed on her mouth after she was already dead'. That made me think of your comment about staged kidnapping I this case, very interesting parallels between cases.

    • @Ulyssestnt
      @Ulyssestnt 4 роки тому +5

      Its extremely difficult to administer a lethal dose of Xanax or any benzodiazepine,the LD50 is sky high even for a toddler.

  • @kellinepickett4979
    @kellinepickett4979 11 років тому +105

    What a precious last moment of video of that little angel baby hugged up on the old man's lap, so sweet and innocent. What a loving little girl.

    • @elijahjames8837
      @elijahjames8837 10 років тому +5

      Aren't they all? So is not the real question how do these loving little people turn into the freaks that litter adulthood?

    • @kellinepickett4979
      @kellinepickett4979 10 років тому

      Elijah James We both know it's for various reasons.

    • @elijahjames8837
      @elijahjames8837 10 років тому +6

      Kelline Pickett
      Yes it maybe rhetorical but still worth stating. This is the only case of its type that caught me; I watched the whole thing including every excruciating minute with that God awful Nancy Grace. Tell you what I personally went through an experience like this for my mother murdered my brother when I was 7 and my father the lawyer made it all go away; matter of fact it didn't even go to trial (they are both dead now so legally doesn't matter). I know that what I'm about to say is only based on feelings but I think this case was blown on purpose. What turned me on to this site is I'm listening to the Opperman Report whose guest is Timothy Charles Holmseth an investigative reporter from Minnesota who, shock of all shocks, is writing a book and so I was looking at some fore ground info to this story. Oh and by the way HI.

    • @sandrapetree5484
      @sandrapetree5484 8 років тому +1

      Kelline Pickett moi

    • @Cytron1515
      @Cytron1515 6 років тому +3

      I'm sorry to hear. My condolences.

  • @marcieoasibarbie9659
    @marcieoasibarbie9659 4 роки тому +45

    This just broke my heart. It’s my first time hearing about this. Sounds like it started off with a couple hundred dollars, & ended in an innocent child’s passing. I’m so saddened by this. Casey destroyed her entire family.

    • @origins2437
      @origins2437 2 роки тому +3

      Drugs

    • @krinklely
      @krinklely 2 роки тому

      @@origins2437 I agree. Drugs and spreading her legs was her MO. "Adult" enough to get pregnant but not enough to want her own child. Bitter and jealous of Kailey and the positive attention received from the grandparents. Casey is an unconscionable sociopathic monster.

  • @erkyturkey2
    @erkyturkey2 10 років тому +71

    Nancy tried so hard to get "Tot Mom" to catch on.

    • @kelliintexas3575
      @kelliintexas3575 5 років тому +9

      It did catch on. EVERY HEADLINE called her that

    • @actuallyNo...
      @actuallyNo... 4 роки тому +1

      Dumbass name. Lmao

    • @katie2275
      @katie2275 3 роки тому

      What does Tot Mom even mean

    • @yasminlabra3238
      @yasminlabra3238 2 роки тому

      @@katie2275 a mother who neglects her children

  • @christinapotter2066
    @christinapotter2066 10 років тому +41

    casey caused all this for her family.

  • @normajoskenbeamora4747
    @normajoskenbeamora4747 6 років тому +30

    POOR LITTLE CAYLEE, SHE WAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRL!! 👸

  • @392christinemarie
    @392christinemarie 8 років тому +140

    She will end up like OJ KARMA

    • @therealflamelit
      @therealflamelit 8 років тому +21

      already selling her shit like OJ lol

    • @fredflintstone3159
      @fredflintstone3159 6 років тому +4

      What. Black?

    • @saradecapua3264
      @saradecapua3264 6 років тому +3

      OJ is out having a ball.

    • @sluggy68
      @sluggy68 5 років тому +1

      Sad karma pieces karma Sadly comes from theyre own Actions . . .

    • @1nonlybrady
      @1nonlybrady 4 роки тому +2

      @@saradecapua3264 Oj was locked up for 10 years just recently getting out parole barely can even walk now... don't know if you've been living under a rock or what

  • @chica27ful
    @chica27ful 9 років тому +110

    QUIT saying TOT MOM!!!!!!! OMG!!!

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 9 років тому +5

      Yes Deanna. It is very annoying, largely because it is simply crass and superficial. Grace's reason for doing this is that she wants others to take up the expression. Hearing a piece of language that she 'invented' repeated by others gives Grace the idea that she is important and adds to her delusional belief that she is in some way valuable. There is nothing else in this broadcast, hence, "simply crass and superficial". It is a sad reflection on the American educational system that it cannot produce an audience with at least a modicum of understanding of conceptual reasoning which would lead to the rejection of this kind of garbage. But, I'm forgetting, Grace would no doubt argue the first amendment giving her the freedom to say....... (to be a stupid and malicious as she likes). This also gives us the freedom to expose her for what she is - a cheap fraud hiding behind her home-made appearance of someone with intelligence and a position of authority... just look at the opening frames of the video. She appears, with a look of great authority, to be collecting evidence with the backing of the police (symbolized by the patrol car behind her) and the evidence gathering further echoed by the 'official' photographer. We're supposed to believe this validates the deluded fool. It's simply risible and I don't know how anyone could fall for this sham.

    • @carultch
      @carultch 6 років тому +6

      What should we call her instead? The 11th trimester abortion practitioner?

    • @ernestinemaloy6752
      @ernestinemaloy6752 6 років тому +1

      Psych NurseChica ikr?fucking hate that term...where did she get the idea to call Casey that anyway ?? Thank God her show is gone. Some people were calling it the Casey Anthony show because for months and months that's all 2nd talked about...sheesh

    • @csea4672
      @csea4672 5 років тому +1

      What is even tot mom? Like for toddler or is that her nickname lol

    • @prettymommy6579
      @prettymommy6579 5 років тому

      I know ,OMG I JUST COMMENTED ON HOW STUPID THIS NAME IS

  • @gerardinecizmar
    @gerardinecizmar 7 років тому +17

    It's a shame that Cindy never got her daughter in check for her stealing and lies and whatever else she did. I can only imagine. I would have gone to court and petitioned for custody of the child and made Casey leave. A woman who was out dancing while her child was missing is a sociopath. A habitual liar and manipulator is what Casey was .Put quite simply,her parents enabled her to be a brat who never wanted her child.

  • @jocelynecomeau6572
    @jocelynecomeau6572 5 років тому +19

    How can a women who killed her child go on and live her life like nothing happened

    • @Dustandfuzz
      @Dustandfuzz 10 місяців тому

      No moral compass.

    • @MA-rn2xp
      @MA-rn2xp 7 місяців тому

      Because she didn't care

  • @powerinself
    @powerinself 11 років тому +36

    Can someone please tell me why Casey didn't report her daughter missing until after 30 days?

    • @sarahf.s.2961
      @sarahf.s.2961 3 роки тому +4

      She knew she would never be found.

    • @Ohmed_88
      @Ohmed_88 3 роки тому +2

      She killed her, that's why...

  • @xina502
    @xina502 6 років тому +17

    I’m sure Casey took the money to buy Xanax for “zany nanny”

  • @Bekka_boo13
    @Bekka_boo13 11 років тому +47

    THe truth will come out one day...we all know she done it! x

    • @j4kgang921
      @j4kgang921 5 років тому

      @Love Rain where did you get this RIDICULOUS THEORY FROM?

  • @lynnd5342
    @lynnd5342 7 років тому +41

    Cindy and George would’ve gladly taken Caylee full time so Casey could party and con to her heart’s content. Caylee didn’t need to die so that she could be free. I think she killed her for more than just freedom.

    • @lisabradford8180
      @lisabradford8180 2 роки тому +1

      exactly and i agree that there was more reason than having her freedom. i've seen it before with my own sister, she used my niece as a pawn in a power struggle with our mom. she only relented and let my mom have custody because mom threatened to take her to court and she knew she wouldn't have a leg to stand on, she didn't have a good reputation like mom did nor did she provide a stable home and life for my niece. i can't imagine any judge siding with her against mom and she knew it too.

    • @mariamaria2751
      @mariamaria2751 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly , but Casey would rather kill her daughter or put her in grave danger than admit she cannot be a good mom and give her parents the satisfaction of having caylee

  • @vassikotsis-horn874
    @vassikotsis-horn874 4 роки тому +35

    It shocks me that people still haven’t figured this out!! I’m a forensic psychology newbie- and I knew her nonsense years ago!!

    • @livelaughandlove299
      @livelaughandlove299 2 роки тому +3

      They all knew but there was no physical evidence unfortunately.

  • @jenniferdavison1898
    @jenniferdavison1898 6 років тому +13

    My heart goes to her father.jeez.the guys been accused of molestation,poor guy...

  • @HoustonJenny1217
    @HoustonJenny1217 10 років тому +35

    Why did she stop choking her?

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 9 років тому +2

      Jennifer Cañas Why did what? Who is "she" and who is "her"?

    • @ninilovenana
      @ninilovenana 6 років тому +1

      Now were asking the right questions

  • @loribias3912
    @loribias3912 9 років тому +40

    Where is the justice system when the obvious guilty are walking free

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 9 років тому +1

      +Lori Bias Are you aware of evidence that eluded the prosecution, defence, jury and me?

    • @openeyesfreedomawaits114
      @openeyesfreedomawaits114 8 років тому +2

      +Olivia Westbrook since you know so much, please elaborate.

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 8 років тому

      +Lyndsay Marx Lynday, I think you may have either misunderstood me or you are mistakenly posing your request to me when you meant it for Lori Bias.
      My comment to Lori Bias (bias, how appropriate) was a question about some elusive evidence that she must believe is in existence. It is for her to elaborate not me.
      Or, you may wish me to impart some part of my knowledge about the Anthony case. If this is the case, please be more specific as it is a long and fairly complex undertaking to cover everything.

    • @openeyesfreedomawaits114
      @openeyesfreedomawaits114 8 років тому +1

      +Olivia Westbrook has anybody come forward and confessed to the murder, or been prosecuted and found guilty?

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 8 років тому

      +Lyndsay Marx What makes you think there was a murder?

  • @jupitergrls
    @jupitergrls 4 роки тому +21

    Cindy created this monster by being her enabler!....losing sleep much Cindy?

    • @T.T.LovesAmbience
      @T.T.LovesAmbience 4 роки тому +3

      Yep, I feel the same way.

    • @yourerightimwrong4567
      @yourerightimwrong4567 3 роки тому +1

      God FORBID my children dont take care of their child and want to continue to "live it up" after having a child, I'm *legally* YEETING that child toward my safe, loving house. Eff my kid, at that point. Hopefully, I raise them well enough that they grow up to parent like I do.

  • @nancyhicksgribble9799
    @nancyhicksgribble9799 8 років тому +53

    i think that casey did it, the parents didnt want to go through another death (ie losing casey and caylee) so they defended casey

    • @Summermoon7.
      @Summermoon7. 8 років тому +4

      Thank you!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @chrisschei476
      @chrisschei476 8 років тому +1

      in america, you have to prove it.

    • @lennatolbert6908
      @lennatolbert6908 8 років тому

      +Chris Schei I know what u R saying but if they cared about their daughter y did they testify for the state? btw u know this story is old but had to say it

    • @7777Scion
      @7777Scion 8 років тому +5

      They did prove it. Jury were insane.

    • @chrisschei476
      @chrisschei476 8 років тому +1

      Lenna Tolbert that's a question for them to answer, not me.

  • @DesertBluebells
    @DesertBluebells 3 роки тому +13

    I feel so sad for Lee! He seemed to be an afterthought on all counts! It seems everything was about Casey and Lee was the forgotten child. Tragic!!

  • @neutronneuron5582
    @neutronneuron5582 4 роки тому +8

    Casey's grandma: I'm gonna have this psychopath of your daughter be arrested for stealing grandpa's money.
    Casey's mom: How dare you, don't even think about it, here it's the money, I'll deal with her.
    Casey: Oh hell no I have to think of something so my family feels really sorry for me and forgets about money incident.

  • @c.a.greene8395
    @c.a.greene8395 10 років тому +69

    my heart goes out to the family especially the grandparents, its so sad to lose a loved one, but to lose them like this is tragic. may she rest in peace and her mother rot in hell....

    • @montyhades
      @montyhades 10 років тому +1

      Casey is innocent actually, but then again, most of you people only speaking because of what the news show, in reality you have nothing to blame her..

    • @c.a.greene8395
      @c.a.greene8395 10 років тому +17

      she was a negligent mother who buried her beautiful daughter in a garbage bag at the end of the street, lied to the press and police, wasted thousands of man hrs and county money spent looking for a child she knew was dead, she lied 5 times in court and on the stand changing her story to fit the evidence, she blamed her father for dumping the child's body, took no responsibility for her actions, and was never charged with illegal disposal of human remains, tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, perjury or neglect...she was guilty as sin its self...and this does not even begin to look at the facts surrounding the child's death or evidence found in the trunk of car or the duct tape on the child's mouth...if the child truly died in the pool why did she not call 911? because the child died of exposure in the trunk when her mother was out partying...hence the extreme evidence of chloroform found in trunk, which by the way needs a chemical analysis to be found after the 30 days it spent in lock up yet could be smelled strongly from a distance, which means she used it as a babysitter often, she knew that if she tried to say the child died of drowning the coroner would know she lied from the autopsy and no water present in the child's lungs. this is why she dumped her daughter at the end of the road like used garbage. check out the police records and court transcripts, maybe then you will see her as she truly is...guilty. as are her parents for going along with her lies to protect her. the father let her put it on him rather than loose both his grand daughter and daughter. this case is a disgusting display of the american judicial system. if she were any other color than white she would be on death row today

    • @200991602
      @200991602 10 років тому

      montyhades Nancy Grace started in on Casey right away. She crowned herself judge, jury and executioner all at once. Then opinions started to form too soon.

    • @c.a.greene8395
      @c.a.greene8395 10 років тому +3

      i do not watch tv, was unaware of the press abuse until much, much later, my information came from court transcripts and police records. but i do agree after seeing some of the news coverage and news paper clippings , she had been judged before all the evidence was brought into the light.
      still, throwing ones beloved child away like yesterdays garbage at the end of the road for someone else to find is very disturbing.
      the coroners report would show exactly how she did die...this was the reason they allowed the child to decay in a garbage bag before dumping her.

    • @noevilea624
      @noevilea624 10 років тому +5

      montyhades you have the misconception that a not guilty verdict equals innocent - it doesn't.
      It just means there was reasonable doubt that events occurred as prosecution suggested but is not a verdict of innocence.

  • @vickygreenhalgh9283
    @vickygreenhalgh9283 5 років тому +13

    There's something very wrong with this case and the so called mother

    • @Ohmed_88
      @Ohmed_88 3 роки тому +2

      Oh ya. I think there allot more then people could imagine... something very odd. She is definitely guilty, but I think there is allot more to this story... possibly more people involved? And a massive cover up, with a paid off jury.... it just seems very weird...

    • @skyepawl4532
      @skyepawl4532 2 роки тому

      she’s a killer not a mother

    • @Juan_deep
      @Juan_deep 2 роки тому

      Notice how she didnt have any children afterwards. She never wanted that child. Poor baby. She wanted to get rid of the kid. Little details like that are a dead give away

  • @halopines1600
    @halopines1600 2 роки тому +2

    2021 and still not over the verdict grr

  • @shihtzuimperiale1263
    @shihtzuimperiale1263 9 років тому +11

    this girl caused so much pain to so many people, it is unbelievable she should of been locked up a long time ago. too many times parents let things go, ignoring the red flags, that maybe would go differently if they do something about it right away. This girl is so selfish and narcissist, lying for her is like breathing, it comes natural

  • @pauladuff436
    @pauladuff436 6 років тому +10

    Casey Anthony killed her own daughter and got away with it come on now

  • @ninihamm8810
    @ninihamm8810 11 років тому +7

    That pic of Caylee w/ eyes closed with her teddy bear is too painful to look at as it makes me wonder how she looked when her "mother" brutally took her life.

  • @carolroberts8930
    @carolroberts8930 2 роки тому +6

    I had not heard this before. Casey seems to care for no one but herself. My heart aches for her parents.

    • @rosevalerio5863
      @rosevalerio5863 Рік тому

      Same here... and I, like many, was glued to the TV following that case... especially Nancy Grace's coverage. Don't know how I missed that...and here we are 10 years later, she's still hurting her family. May God grant them peace & healing.

  • @funnyvidsandalilsinging7713
    @funnyvidsandalilsinging7713 4 роки тому +7

    I hate this reporter stop calling her tot! She's got a name!!.

  • @Aprilforevergreen
    @Aprilforevergreen 7 років тому +8

    ‘Tot Mom’, what the hell - how crude

  • @babyfirefly1171
    @babyfirefly1171 4 роки тому +7

    Referring to Caylee as "tot" is highly disrespectful

    • @journey2zee
      @journey2zee 3 роки тому

      Tot is short for toddler. It’s not disrespectful. The 2 year old was a tot. Where is your mind?

  • @kathymyers7279
    @kathymyers7279 7 років тому +19

    STOP SAYING TOT MOM!!!!!!

  • @lindadubberly2458
    @lindadubberly2458 4 роки тому +11

    This is still incredibly horrible and sad 😢 it's still unreal the jury could not seem to understand the evidence ! But I truly hope and pray the family will get peace and forgive 🙏 and understand God will bring the Evil to light !!!!!

  • @patrickmarble3265
    @patrickmarble3265 2 роки тому +4

    This is crazy, with all the evidence of Casey committing the crime she was still able to walk

  • @michele1083
    @michele1083 4 роки тому +5

    I cant stand Nancy Grace...she just asked this woman if "tot mom was always like this" So disrespectful

  • @dearmakeupdiary
    @dearmakeupdiary 6 років тому +4

    Karma will catch up with her soon. So much evil can’t be ignored by the laws of nature.

  • @djjinerson
    @djjinerson 4 роки тому +12

    What the hell is “tot mom”?

    • @BabyBunch
      @BabyBunch 4 роки тому +1

      Casey Anthony is tot mom.

    • @iadorenewyork1
      @iadorenewyork1 3 роки тому

      Maybe that she is on the young side?

    • @djjinerson
      @djjinerson 2 роки тому +1

      @@keybaangel3 thanks, just sounds odd 😊

  • @tracieratliff2672
    @tracieratliff2672 4 роки тому +11

    Breaks my heart to see these pics/moments of Caylee, really precious little girl... I've never had a child, not sure I can; people like this have a beautiful child like this & don't care; she definitely seems responsible for her daughter's death & it makes me sick & nauseated when you see this child's even sweet temperament, whatever, but they failed Caylee, & I hope they can one day open the case up again & Caylee's death can be vindicated.. Sweet Angel, I feel good to know she's in Heaven, because she was an innocent child~ 100%

  • @prettymommy6579
    @prettymommy6579 5 років тому +8

    Where did Nancy Grace ever get that term " tot mom"? I always thought it was stupid. Aren't all of us Moms, a tot mom at one time or another?

  • @maryjosmith5925
    @maryjosmith5925 4 роки тому +4

    All her actions really point to a drug user.

  • @ninalee8625
    @ninalee8625 4 роки тому +16

    I saw an interview of Casey's parents and - as the daughter of narcissists - it was obvious to me that the entire family was beyond dysfunctional with many dark secrets.

    • @gaysy1st
      @gaysy1st 3 роки тому +7

      I thought the parents seemed pretty normal, particularly the Dad. I think they just spoiled her rotten & never said No to her. She was so used to getting her own way, that when they tried to bring her to task over anything, she got verbally abusive with them. She even did it when they visited her. And when her Mum didn't say exactly what she wanted to hear on the phone, she swore at her & was really abrupt & dismissive, all the while the Mum was still calling her sweetheart etc.

  • @najaberthelsen
    @najaberthelsen 5 років тому +4

    I don't understand the "tot-mom" outrage..? I would like to understand the frustration/anger/disappointment about that word.

  • @alexyari6036
    @alexyari6036 9 років тому +8

    Goodness is so sad to see little Caylee. RIP. :(

    • @deoglemnaco7025
      @deoglemnaco7025 5 років тому

      I’m pretty sure Caylee Is alive

    • @whatthehellisthisname
      @whatthehellisthisname 5 років тому

      Tom Hay Writing this stupid comment makes me wonder why your brain is alive.

  • @ufodeath
    @ufodeath 4 роки тому +1

    A drug is not a nanny

  • @martindx1961
    @martindx1961 9 років тому +19

    Olivia,why do you insist on defending casey anthony? You say that she is a "real person" its not like anyone thinks shes a fake person.I think everyone is quite aware that shes a real person.I personally think shes a real BAD person! You say "she lost her daughter" yes,she lost her daughter BUT..the big obvious question here is...HOW and/or WHY did she "lose" her daughter..?
    I do agree that most everyone would definitely find that very hard emotionally..but NOT casey anthony!..If you watch her "new video diary" you wont hear her mention missing her daughter or showing any kind of emotional distress whatsoever! You say "no one knows what its like for her"
    She has made it very clear that its all about her..and ONLY her! All she talks about in the new video is ME ME ME her computer,camera,skype,dog ect..(poor dog!) Not ONE time does she mention her daughter and shows absolutely NO signs of being a grieving mother! Instead shes smiling,laughing,joking! And its been made public that her entire family wants nothing to do with her anymore.now with that being said..why would you think that is so..? You go on to say.."people believe what they WANT to believe regardless of the TRUTH! Give me a freaking break! In actuality People want to believe what is the OBVIOUS truth! Im stunned that anyone would/will make excuses or defend such a horrible person as this after she lied over and over and over again.and yes the evidence may have been circumstantial but it all pointed directly to HER and no one but HER! You are correct when you say "she has to live with it" but she has shown without any doubt that she has no problem "living with it"...you have your right to your opinion but I think YOU as well as everyone knows that this girl is GUILTY!
    PEACE!

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 9 років тому

      martindx1961 I understand everything you are saying and I think I understand why you are saying it.
      But I don't venture your conclusions because I'm not given to assumption, especially with consequences as grave as in this case.
      Please try and understand that I'm not defending Ms. Anthony, I'm defending an individual's right to be considered innocent unless proven otherwise.
      It is very easy to make assumptions but it doesn't make it fact.
      As I've said time and time again, I don't know if Ms. Anthony committed a murder or not. It looks like she may have done but that doesn't mean she did. I have ideas of what may have happened but I'm not going to publish these thoughts because they are just ideas (speculation and guesswork).
      I've discussed this case with my sister (she's a clinical psychologist) at length and she says there isn't a 'normal' way to behave following the death of someone close.
      She also thinks that Ms. Anthony is definitely not what she appears, but it's almost impossible to determine any truth via the court hearings or the media.
      She, my sister, also says that people are, to varying degrees, fluid and it is wrong to 'box tick' people into categories. Things are rarely that simple. Courts and the media both like to rationalize people into packages for public consumption. In other words it's black or it's white... We all know that, in truth, it's almost never that simple.

  • @rashadcrushfield8818
    @rashadcrushfield8818 6 років тому +3

    JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE. MAY SHE REST IN PEACE IN HEAVEN.

  • @mariecabaneshucamis
    @mariecabaneshucamis 4 роки тому +3

    i think the mom already knew back then her daughter has something unusual even during her childhood

  • @karenmartin5397
    @karenmartin5397 6 років тому +3

    Perhaps Caylee had this major altercation with her mother, one of many over her stealing and bad behavior, then enacted the rage out on Casey, she ultimately knew how much her mother loved her granddaughter, what a way to hurt her to destroy her grandaughter, i see resentment, jealousy and rage, all taken out on that beautiful baby, heartbreaking

  • @johnLennon255
    @johnLennon255 7 років тому +29

    Jesus Christ I cannot stand Nancy grace at all

    • @nancydavis1391
      @nancydavis1391 7 років тому +1

      NANCY MAKES ME PUKE

    • @johnLennon255
      @johnLennon255 7 років тому

      Nancy Davis I still can't understand how this woman got her own show

  • @GatCat
    @GatCat 4 роки тому +1

    No one speaks directly. She did it. Nuff said.

  • @robinsiler2420
    @robinsiler2420 6 років тому +8

    I wish Caylee had been my baby, I wish I could have loved her and made her happy every day. I hate Casey Anthony with every fiber of my being, she’s the epitome of everything repugnant and evil in this world.

  • @Woodman-Spare-that-tree
    @Woodman-Spare-that-tree 3 роки тому +2

    Casey’s eyes look as insane as Jodi Arias’ eyes.

  • @hollyfisher8811
    @hollyfisher8811 6 років тому +6

    That purely EVIL laugh Casey makes after being found "Not
    Guilty" is positively sickening!!
    Sociopathic Personality...

  • @flaminglaughter
    @flaminglaughter 4 роки тому +4

    I wonder if we will ever know the real story.

  • @SjC420
    @SjC420 3 роки тому +3

    I absolutely believe Casey's mom knew what happened & lied to protect Casey.

  • @toxicmorbosa2414
    @toxicmorbosa2414 6 років тому +1

    accidentally killing someone isn't murder

    • @carultch
      @carultch 3 роки тому

      The medical examiner ruled out accidental causes of death.

  • @ilikeyoutube836
    @ilikeyoutube836 4 роки тому +3

    What's up with her calling Casey "tot mom?" I've never heard anything else refer to her as anything other than Casey

  • @skullrose.665
    @skullrose.665 5 років тому +2

    Oh look at them hugging.bless..is it grandpa&graddaughter..R.I.P ANGEL.

  • @shizzle7642
    @shizzle7642 4 роки тому +5

    Another case of wiping out your own in order to be relieved of ties and responsibility...to start life over and be free. Psychopath!

  • @heyokaempath5802
    @heyokaempath5802 6 років тому +1

    That poor family. That poor innocent baby.

  • @Joiedevivredesilives
    @Joiedevivredesilives 9 років тому +9

    What is shocking is a little girl was cruelly killed by the mother and everyone was defending her if it was my daughter and she did this she would be dead to me but still no one is held responsible

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 9 років тому +2

      MrOnyourbike What is shocking is that if you have evidence that she killed her daughter why weren't you in court presenting it to the jury?

    • @Joiedevivredesilives
      @Joiedevivredesilives 9 років тому +1

      Olivia Westbrook because Americas full of fuck wits like you if your child goes missing I suppose you won't panic for a month you shouldn't be allowed to use the internet as you are beyond stupid I bet more people think she killed the child than not
      Have you thought of employing Casey as your child's carer as you believe in her so much

    • @OliviaWestbrook
      @OliviaWestbrook 9 років тому +1

      MrOnyourbike Firstly: Caylee was never missing. As for your point that "more people think she killed the child than not." You don't know if that is true and even if more did think it, it wouldn't make it a fact. Not you, nor me, nor anyone outside of Ms. Anthony's confidants with whom she chose to share this information know what happened. That is a fact. It is simply a lot of people, with personal agendas, guessing. You accuse me of being beyond stupid: I use speculation as a means of investigation but I am not so stupid as to present it as fact.
      You are probably out of your depth on this, so, if I were you, I'd use the time to learn instead of espousing your vitriol.
      Incidentally, I'm European, not American, north or south - I would have thought that anyone with only a modicum of education or intelligence would have recognised that.

    • @alisonlaing2778
      @alisonlaing2778 9 років тому +1

      MrOnyourbike the whole thing is a total lack of respect to a little girl who isn,t here to defend herself etc. i hope the juriors can sleep at night. you NEVER see them etc i wonder why????????????????? SHAME probably.

    • @Joiedevivredesilives
      @Joiedevivredesilives 9 років тому

      +Alison Laing exactly!!!! if she wasn't missing where was she like some head in the sand morons say she wasn't missing

  • @jacquelinenack573
    @jacquelinenack573 5 років тому +2

    She NEVER WANTED A BABY,her mother forced her to keep her,it ended the way it was always gonna end...

    • @carultch
      @carultch 3 роки тому

      I don't think her mother forced her to keep it. She was 25 years old, and an adult in her own right. There is nothing her mother could legally do, to force her to keep the baby. The most her mother could do, is refuse to get involved in helping her get an abortion.
      More likely, she had an ulterior motive in having the baby, so she could get her fiance Jesse Grund to marry her. He initially tried to act as the father, despite his doubts about the paternity. He broke off the engagement when he disliked Casey's change in behavior and her contempt for his love of Caylee. He set himself free with a DNA test that excluded him as the father.

  • @johnmiller-jf3ez
    @johnmiller-jf3ez 6 років тому +5

    Did anyone else see the demonic eyes in some of the shots?

  • @mrcopenhagen1989ify
    @mrcopenhagen1989ify 11 років тому +2

    Too everyone that thinks it was just an accident and she's not guilty. Why would she try to hide the body. That's hiding evidence something guilty people do not normal parents of a recently found dead child.

  • @jonnkatt87
    @jonnkatt87 10 років тому +4

    This video is a waste of time and simply a means of publicity. This family is evil and continues to cover up a murder of a 2 year old toddler. The fact of the matter is this little girl died and all they did as a family is try to cover up the fact that Casey killed her daughter then lied about it made up stories and never reported it for 31 days

  • @justjessi5679
    @justjessi5679 2 роки тому

    Wow! I hadn't heard this previously, thank you for this.

  • @scmiller20
    @scmiller20 4 роки тому +4

    Casey's mom was and is the problem!! She covers for Casey and never made her grow up and take any responsibility!

  • @steviasativa9803
    @steviasativa9803 3 роки тому

    I thought Nancy was saying “top mom” like sarcastically and I couldn’t stop laughing

  • @gcade3974
    @gcade3974 7 років тому +5

    Nancy been annoying me since the movie Hancock 😂😂

  • @legally_ellecee
    @legally_ellecee 4 роки тому

    Of all the landmark Cases out there... this is the only one I still cannot understand.

  • @VIKING33NY
    @VIKING33NY 6 років тому +3

    Casey's guilty...No Doubt!!!

  • @barbaraa.feltman4835
    @barbaraa.feltman4835 2 роки тому +1

    She should be in prison, she clearly didn't care about her Presious little girl 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

  • @lizzieball3795
    @lizzieball3795 4 роки тому +3

    I think that Cindy spoiled Caylee and that Casey became jealous.I think Caylee was used as a pawn by Casey. When Cindy confronted and attacked Casey about the stolen money,Casey took of with Caylee,in order to spite Cindy. During the While Casey was living in her car with Caylee for the first day or so, Caylee probably became ornery,possibly and Caley lost her temper and snapped.

  • @Marlynnamm
    @Marlynnamm 6 років тому +4

    Yet innocent people are sent to prison everyday off of just a Theory with absolutely no evidence. And here we are letting someone like this walk free. She never even answered to the child neglect charges ect. She literally got away with everything.

    • @carultch
      @carultch 3 роки тому

      You have a misunderstanding of what the word theory means. The word you are looking for, is hypothesis.

  • @davidr1620
    @davidr1620 6 років тому +4

    Most sane people can't imagine how someone could kill their own toddler. But the fact is, there just are people like that. They don't have the same feelings others do.
    I've known a few people who are sort of like that. I doubt they would commit murder. They have feelings. They do feel empathy and have some moral convictions. But not in the same way. They may cry over their dog dying or their mother or even their grandmother. But they have emotional blindspots in bizarre places and in bizarre ways. And if push comes to shove, they could murder if they had to and they wouldn't feel the least bit bad about it.

  • @nancyhoward7005
    @nancyhoward7005 5 років тому +1

    Casey Anthony didn't get the death penalty because she's pretty

  • @zarfeeeer
    @zarfeeeer 11 років тому +5

    and not report "omg my daughter drowned!" immediately afterward.

  • @noneyabiz6928
    @noneyabiz6928 2 роки тому +1

    NANCY GRACE CALLING HER TOT MOM IS HORRIBLE THAT'S THE WORSE NICK NAME EVER PLUS THEY SHOULD'VE NEVER GIVEN HER A NICKNAME BECAUSE IM SURE SHE ATE THAT ATTENTION UP