Hi Gene! Great video, very interesting. Talking about myself, I don't image pulling more than 125-130Kg in the upcoming years or doing dips heavier than 200-210Kg. Obviously I don't have the perfect genetics as you mention, hopefully we will see some young promises that may be capable of getting close to that. But still, a 160Kg pull up or 240Kg dip at 90Kg bw.... in my opinion it's impossible. But time will tell!
Que tal pere. Vamos a ver si tú eres correcto. Yo se en mi corazón que nosotros podemos ser muyyyy fuerteesss, mucho más que creamos es possible ahorita. La realidad de los potenciales en streetlifting va a ser muy different in algos años. Y yo me siento que tu vas a ser uno de los personas que aprende como usar el TODO de tu Power. Excuse the Spanglish I don’t really know Spanish that well but I wanted to practice so I did my best to explain to you what I’m feeling in Spanish, hopefully you got the message of what I was trying to say
i would say that these estimations on what is left to be achieved are pretty optimistic if you pick up the numbers from elite powerlifters from the 1970/80's's and compare them to the all time world records established up to now the progress will stay around the 20% basis at most For instance, Larry Pacifico in 1973 had a 905kg total at the 110kg class, meanwhile today's world record for that same class is of 1070kg by Yury Belkin Eddy Pengelly scored a 707kg total in 1980 at the 67.5kg class, today the world record is 752kg by Gerald Dionio So, i would say that in the near future, the best +93kg streetlifting athletes would achieve a 140kg pull up and a 240kg dip, while smaller athletes in the 80kg range would be elite with a 130kg pull-up and a 210kg dip
Now I am going for the +150 numbers. I have been training streetlifting for 3 months and my pull-up is 25 kg and my dip around 40-50 kg, so I have a lot of time.
Those gains wont last my friend it will plateau eventually. It took me 3 years just to get a 70kg 1rm pull up, after getting a 40kg pullup in under a year back in 2018..
@@TheFlyingNinjaGamerTFNG Bro, thats very good progress. 70kg is a big feat. My 1RM is around 40kg and im trying to break through the plateaus. Any tips for frequency/how many exercises per session and do u use different variations? thanks
Don’t take anybody else’s down playing advice as the truth of what is possible for you. Do not allow yourself to give attention and focus to the reality that others project onto you for what’s possible for you. You are incredibly unlimited so much more than you know, and you have within you the tools and potential to actualize this and truly achieve the feats of strength that you truly desire. I’m telling you right now that the only reason you desire these numbers is because a higher part of you knows that this is possible for you. Stay true to your dreams and remain consistent and resilient and you will absolutely shit on them and overcome any obstacles/plateaus standing in your way. All while proving to yourself and reminding yourself of the infinite powerful being that you are at your core. You got it bro
The only way you'll really know is if the sport grows enough to have a large pool of talent, such as a sport like powerlifting does. There's a very small sample size and event structure and technique has not been fully solidified yet. But I agree the average person way underachieves their potential.
Yes but in Competition Form and lower Weight classes its different. Smaev pulls 170 with a Bodyweight of probably around 135. Which means its a 125% Bw Pull. Ludo pulls 125 around 90kg which is 138%. Some People pull around 100 at 60 which is 166%. So his relative Strength isnt that crazy. Not to discredit his achievements.
I think that your first set of numbers are definitely not achievable by untrained average 30 years old men. It's crazy to think that genetically average person can pull up +100 kg and dip +150. I've seen plenty of people training for 10+ years, who can't even bench press 150 kg. In fact, less than 5% of men, who regularly do bench press for years, can lift that much.
Yo i haven’t even watched the video yet but here’s my take: There is no REAL limit to our potential in ANYTHING. The only limits we ever face are the ones that we believe we have. We are humans and therefore are beings who have inside of us our own spark of infinite consciousness. And included in this infinite consciousness and with the combination of free will we have the ability to cut ourselves off from our true power of infinite strength by developing beliefs about how the human body works or what it’s capable of, which ultimately leads to our experience of “limitations” But I’m so deadass rn when I say that I will fully embody the idea of infinite possibility when it comes to my street lifting strength and skills and I will prove the truth of the words I am saying. It may sound like a silly unrealistic sort of fantasy reality that I’m speaking about, but I garuntee that this is the truth. And Gene bro once i master these methods of translating the ancient spiritual wisdom of the infinite nature of humans into practical applicable methodologies for streetlifting, Imma show you so you can be a leader of this new era of limitless potential in the fitness world.
The thing is, you will live a finite amount if time and progress at a finite speed. So, I agree with you that we can theorically progress indefinitely, I believe we are limited by our lifespan.
I’m soon 17 years old, 183cm and 73kg. When I started going to the gym I couldn’t even bend my arms while hanging on a pull up bar. Now almost 2 years later I can do a pull up 1rm with 50kg. I haven’t been training weighted pull ups until a month ago, I just did other back exercises. I would like to think that I have been training fairly effective since I have been training close or at failure a ton. What do you think my 1rm will be in 1, 5, 10 years?
Gene, do you have any recommendations for programming? I'm super interested in this sport. Was training calisthenics at a beginner/intermediate level and fell off for a few months, getting back on now.
I don't believe one second that in 73kg after 15 years you cannot do +70kg pull up. I've been training for 3 years at 70kg and I'm pulling 60kg with a dogshit training
your back health will efficiently sky rocket with seal rows deadlifts and weighted pull ups to the point when youre 80 your back will feel like its 20 @@michaelsmelt5218
These numbers are kinda insane and , if you ask me, likely unachievable ( talking about BEST genetics record). Most of the guys who have accomplished 190 kg dips and 120 kg pull ups are on gear. If you are natural athlete with a decent genetics , you will be approximately able to pull about 100 kg and dip with 150 kg. That's what Artem Shirokov has achieved. I deem he's a natural athlete, at least he looks like he is. May be i'm wrong , but you can observe some streetlifting athletes' progress and make your own conclusion.
@@StrengthGeneahh okay. I agree with you on these standards, people never get anywhere near close to their true potential so they don’t know what they’re capable of. I’m at 60kg on the weighted dip for 1 and 43kg for the weighted pull-up but I’ve only been strength training consistently for about a year and a half now so I have a lot of work to do!
I have the doubt now, what do you consider as ideal genetics. shorter arms, shorter leverages?, that doesn't is very understandable for me, if somebody can explain it, thanks.
@@StrengthGene Thanks for rhe answer bro, i think i already told you before, but you easily are one of the best streetlifting channels out there, thanks for all the info
Hi Gene! Great video, very interesting. Talking about myself, I don't image pulling more than 125-130Kg in the upcoming years or doing dips heavier than 200-210Kg. Obviously I don't have the perfect genetics as you mention, hopefully we will see some young promises that may be capable of getting close to that. But still, a 160Kg pull up or 240Kg dip at 90Kg bw.... in my opinion it's impossible. But time will tell!
Que tal pere. Vamos a ver si tú eres correcto. Yo se en mi corazón que nosotros podemos ser muyyyy fuerteesss, mucho más que creamos es possible ahorita. La realidad de los potenciales en streetlifting va a ser muy different in algos años.
Y yo me siento que tu vas a ser uno de los personas que aprende como usar el TODO de tu Power.
Excuse the Spanglish I don’t really know Spanish that well but I wanted to practice so I did my best to explain to you what I’m feeling in Spanish, hopefully you got the message of what I was trying to say
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Benchcrowley will break this record
يقولك جيناتي مهي بأحسن شي 😅@@mohammedmustafa3858
ok, now my goal is 150kg pull-up. Thank you
i never seen anybody who pull ups 150kg
@@muscularchristianity7Search Andrey Smaev
@@muscularchristianity7because they don’t exist ?
@@baker4132watch up smaev
Vitally feschuk maybe?
i would say that these estimations on what is left to be achieved are pretty optimistic
if you pick up the numbers from elite powerlifters from the 1970/80's's and compare them to the all time world records established up to now the progress will stay around the 20% basis at most
For instance, Larry Pacifico in 1973 had a 905kg total at the 110kg class, meanwhile today's world record for that same class is of 1070kg by Yury Belkin
Eddy Pengelly scored a 707kg total in 1980 at the 67.5kg class, today the world record is 752kg by Gerald Dionio
So, i would say that in the near future, the best +93kg streetlifting athletes would achieve a 140kg pull up and a 240kg dip, while smaller athletes in the 80kg range would be elite with a 130kg pull-up and a 210kg dip
That's a great argument.
At that point, the limiting factor will be to place the weights between the legs^^
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Now I am going for the +150 numbers. I have been training streetlifting for 3 months and my pull-up is 25 kg and my dip around 40-50 kg, so I have a lot of time.
Those gains wont last my friend it will plateau eventually. It took me 3 years just to get a 70kg 1rm pull up, after getting a 40kg pullup in under a year back in 2018..
@@TheFlyingNinjaGamerTFNG Bro, thats very good progress. 70kg is a big feat. My 1RM is around 40kg and im trying to break through the plateaus. Any tips for frequency/how many exercises per session and do u use different variations? thanks
Don’t take anybody else’s down playing advice as the truth of what is possible for you. Do not allow yourself to give attention and focus to the reality that others project onto you for what’s possible for you. You are incredibly unlimited so much more than you know, and you have within you the tools and potential to actualize this and truly achieve the feats of strength that you truly desire.
I’m telling you right now that the only reason you desire these numbers is because a higher part of you knows that this is possible for you.
Stay true to your dreams and remain consistent and resilient and you will absolutely shit on them and overcome any obstacles/plateaus standing in your way. All while proving to yourself and reminding yourself of the infinite powerful being that you are at your core. You got it bro
Doesn't matter how long it takes, we will be here for a while, why not work for a crazy pullup for that while
@@ashhadnaqavi yeah, I am still 16, I got like 50 years at least to go work on that 150 kg pull up
The only way you'll really know is if the sport grows enough to have a large pool of talent, such as a sport like powerlifting does. There's a very small sample size and event structure and technique has not been fully solidified yet. But I agree the average person way underachieves their potential.
great video!
I am natural. At 123kg I've done a 77kg weighted chinup. At 129kg I've done a 91kg weighted dip no elbow sleeves.
Andrey Smaev already hit 170 pull. To infinity and beyond...
Yes but in Competition Form and lower Weight classes its different. Smaev pulls 170 with a Bodyweight of probably around 135. Which means its a 125% Bw Pull. Ludo pulls 125 around 90kg which is 138%. Some People pull around 100 at 60 which is 166%. So his relative Strength isnt that crazy. Not to discredit his achievements.
I think that your first set of numbers are definitely not achievable by untrained average 30 years old men. It's crazy to think that genetically average person can pull up +100 kg and dip +150. I've seen plenty of people training for 10+ years, who can't even bench press 150 kg. In fact, less than 5% of men, who regularly do bench press for years, can lift that much.
Yo i haven’t even watched the video yet but here’s my take:
There is no REAL limit to our potential in ANYTHING. The only limits we ever face are the ones that we believe we have.
We are humans and therefore are beings who have inside of us our own spark of infinite consciousness. And included in this infinite consciousness and with the combination of free will we have the ability to cut ourselves off from our true power of infinite strength by developing beliefs about how the human body works or what it’s capable of, which ultimately leads to our experience of “limitations”
But I’m so deadass rn when I say that I will fully embody the idea of infinite possibility when it comes to my street lifting strength and skills and I will prove the truth of the words I am saying.
It may sound like a silly unrealistic sort of fantasy reality that I’m speaking about, but I garuntee that this is the truth.
And Gene bro once i master these methods of translating the ancient spiritual wisdom of the infinite nature of humans into practical applicable methodologies for streetlifting, Imma show you so you can be a leader of this new era of limitless potential in the fitness world.
The thing is, you will live a finite amount if time and progress at a finite speed. So, I agree with you that we can theorically progress indefinitely, I believe we are limited by our lifespan.
W video 👊💪
In my opinion.. too optimistic in both cases but good video anyway
2:08 Fact bro this true goes so deep
I’m soon 17 years old, 183cm and 73kg. When I started going to the gym I couldn’t even bend my arms while hanging on a pull up bar. Now almost 2 years later I can do a pull up 1rm with 50kg. I haven’t been training weighted pull ups until a month ago, I just did other back exercises. I would like to think that I have been training fairly effective since I have been training close or at failure a ton.
What do you think my 1rm will be in 1, 5, 10 years?
Bro, what do you think of SoZ Perseus from 🇵🇭? I think he needs to get some funding to be competing internationally. Would you think so?
He is the strongest in the Philippines from what I've seen so far. If he's strong enough to give Philippines a medal, definitely!
Gene, do you have any recommendations for programming? I'm super interested in this sport. Was training calisthenics at a beginner/intermediate level and fell off for a few months, getting back on now.
Mathew Zlat's beginner weighted calisthenics program has helped many individuals. Would recommend that.
I can chin up 40kg 2 months of weighted calisthenics, 58kg bw
I didn’t watch the video, there’s no limit bro just keep pushing and don’t give a shit
Why would a higher bodyweight also allow more added weight? Makes no sense
Because of more muscle mass.
I don't believe one second that in 73kg after 15 years you cannot do +70kg pull up. I've been training for 3 years at 70kg and I'm pulling 60kg with a dogshit training
so good genetics
@@kirukobestie you think?
@@redditfm4578of course my man above average genetics in pulling
i just hit 13 and am pulling 30 1rm with 2 months of training hope i be like you haha
@@kirukobestie Thats 30kg weighted pull up? Im thinking to pick this up for general health purposes
your back health will efficiently sky rocket with seal rows deadlifts and weighted pull ups to the point when youre 80 your back will feel like its 20 @@michaelsmelt5218
Hey good video from u! can u tell me how many is the gap between weighted dip with and without elbow sleeves?
Thank you man! I would say anywhere between 5-15KG.
These numbers are kinda insane and , if you ask me, likely unachievable ( talking about BEST genetics record). Most of the guys who have accomplished 190 kg dips and 120 kg pull ups are on gear. If you are natural athlete with a decent genetics , you will be approximately able to pull about 100 kg and dip with 150 kg. That's what Artem Shirokov has achieved. I deem he's a natural athlete, at least he looks like he is. May be i'm wrong , but you can observe some streetlifting athletes' progress and make your own conclusion.
Artem Shirokov's best pullup and dip is 110KG and 170KG respectively.
@StrengthGene yeah , haven't memorize certain numbers
The numbers you referenced on the screen are in lbs, correct?
KG
@@StrengthGeneahh okay. I agree with you on these standards, people never get anywhere near close to their true potential so they don’t know what they’re capable of. I’m at 60kg on the weighted dip for 1 and 43kg for the weighted pull-up but I’ve only been strength training consistently for about a year and a half now so I have a lot of work to do!
Great content brother! Do you have a business email?
I don't but I have an instagram: @strength_gene
I have the doubt now, what do you consider as ideal genetics.
shorter arms, shorter leverages?, that doesn't is very understandable for me, if somebody can explain it, thanks.
Ideal leverages, fast-twitch fibers, fast recovery, naturally high work capacity, muscle insertions, etc.
@@StrengthGene Thanks for rhe answer bro, i think i already told you before, but you easily are one of the best streetlifting channels out there, thanks for all the info
@@tomasesquivel5074 I appreciate that! Thank you sir and hope you enjoy the future content.