I do reckon the base CX90 (priced just under $80k) is the sweet spot to pick if you aren't looking to spend money on sunroof and touch screen. Drive is exactly the same and does have the other key tech elements like 360 camera and heads up display. I am also averaging 8.3L / 100km on 80% freeway / country and 20% city for the Petrol model, pretty decent fuel economy and it is effortless to drive the speed upto 100km / hr. Also noting the 19 inch wheel with 55 profile tyre does make the car more comfortable and lesser noises, also the all models came with double glazed front window to make the cabin quiet.
It's well ahead of the now long in the tooth CX9. It's a pretty decent drive. Not fully perfect, but pretty bloody good . The diesel is again probably the best pick
A great SUV, the main issue is pricing. That alone will relegate this as a low volume product. I fear with economic headwinds hitting, and the pivot to EVs... launching an expensive ICE SUV is probably only going to work for 3 years or so before sales dry up and the model dies along with Mazda. If I put my Tony Seba hat on... I predict that there will not be a next gen version of the CX60 or CX90 and the model will disappear before 2030.
@@therightcar Unless Mazda have an EV specific platform they are just not going to get the efficiency good enough or the build costs low enough to compete with Tesla and the Chinese. Also, not being vertically integrated like Tesla means that they will struggle to be cost competitive. If Tony Seba is to be believed (and he has been right so far) Mazda will either go out of business or have to merge given their current EV plans.
If i was looking for a Mazda CX90 i would wait for the Hybrid or PHEV if you have personnel plug in facilities. This basic combustion engine is already a Sky Active Dynasaur. As an urbanite the Hybrid would be perfect for that silent and fuel saving experience, and that in itself saves the engine from all the hard work of stopping and going, not to mention the zero poison spewing out of the exhaust when on battery mode/Eco mode when sitting in city traffic or just mooching along at slow speed. Makes perfect sense. The seating for 7 seems to work well so well done to the interior design team in producing a very practical family large SUV mobile.
Could you put cost of tyres in running costs. 19 20 now 21 inch wheels. 18 inch RAV4 tyres are expensive enough. Saw a comment onXtrail test owner couldnt buy a tyre in Australia.
That is a bit hard as tyres would be variable pricing when upgrading depending on where and how you buy them. I an tell you somewhat my experience: OEM replacement : Continental Contact Sport 5 P235/45/19 V99 (load/speed) range from approx. $350 per corner, so you are looking at $1,400 (depending on where and how you purchase). I ended up not opting to replace the OEM tyres with OEM, I opted for different brand Goodyear Eagle F1 P235/45/19 V99 for a lot less at $220 per corner for $880, a saving of $520, of which I ended u doing front and rear wheel alignments, all up from the tyre shop (wont mention there name) $990, which is a fair price for the tyres and wheel alignment (front and rear). Since tyres are a consumable product its always best to shop around and get the best deal which suits your needs.
Nailed it, TGV. It is way too hard to add tyre consumption costs into running costs - there are so many variables. Bigger tyres will cost more, that’s been the case since 16-inch sporty tyres were “big”. So, as more cars add bigger tyres, the prices will come down. Either way, smaller tyres still cost less, like a set of 17s might be $1200, while 22s could be $1200 a corner!
Keep up the good work Just may be a small comment and please dont he offended Try to choose your words less carefully You choose them too carefully! If something is not good, then it not good ; wording like could be better etc does not really deliver the message clearly to the viewer Again good work
This car is over priced and the only spark would be the power of the engine but the mild hybrid system is useless anyway that maybe the cause bring the price up. And yes, you need nearly 100k within the top range for the ventilated seat. When I sit in this car in driver seat, my left leg still feel being pushed back from the middle thing, and you cannot easily straight your leg across in the rear seat, just like all MAZDA SUV vehicle. Predicatably, MAZDA will offer discounted price in 2 years for this car as nobody is buying it. If the price to be lowered around 15k to 20k, then it will be a very good choice to compete with Palisade only if Palisade is not going to have its diesel engine upgraded to a 3.0+ Turbo or V6 AWD. Personally conclusion, good car, over priced, useless hybird system brings the service cost up.
For Mazda’s sake this better be a success in Australia (where a powerful diesel in a Mazda SUV should be a strong seller)- but in the US (where this needs to sell well) diesels don’t sell and Mazda is a pretty niche brand (accepting CX5 and CX50 are reasonably popular there). If CX90 is priced in US around the same as a Genesis it’s DOA
@@rexthesheep - yeah Passenger vehicles and diesel don't mix and match at all in the North American market. Many and I do many people in the NA market seriously want turbo diesel for the mid size trucks (re; Ranger, Colorado, Tacoma, Frontier and others) but the car markers only offer turbo petrol or V6 petrol, while we would like turbo petrol we are stuck with the junk that is turbo diesel and its Euro 6 and soon Euro 7 future issues.
@@therightcar Personally nope. But my friend in the Philippines bought a Mercedes Benz V220D which spent three visits to the repair shop within the same month. Also, because Mercedes Benz uses these biodegradable wiring harnesses, they easily melt in hot and humid tropical weather. He definitely regretted that decision and said that he should've bought a Toyota Granvia / Hiace Super Grandia instead.
if it had a EUNOS badge on it then maybe, but that Mazda badge is not premium. As to why Diesel is 10,000/12 months I would think its due to being Euro 6 so the engine would need DPF and DEF checks. Yeah no thanks Mazda, try again with the Eunos premium badge.
@@therightcar - on a different note entirely, I just purchased a Nissan X-Trail Ti NA petrol CVT today, picking it up on potentially Thursday. Out of all options on offer (and YES I tested around 15 vehicles over a 7 week period, its exhausting, I don't know how you do it) it came down to either Outlander Aspire AWD or X-Trail Ti 4x4 both have the same NA petrol and CVT, the X-Trail just won the battle due to supply as basically no NSW Mitsubishi dealerships have Outlander in Aspire AWD spec until at least early October for delivery, heaps of FWD spec but again matt you buy on needs not wants. Also yes Mazda wants to go premium? bring back the Eunos brand.
Pretty expensive and I'm not sure it feels different enough from a Mazda 3 or CX-30 (both of which I own) in terms of switchgear etc etc. I know BMW/Merc/Audi have a Russian Doll thing going too, but it's usually top down, not bottom up... Don't know if I could pony up $100k for a Mazda
What do we reckon where does it stop it's a silly bloody car ...my first house was $30,000 🤪 yes and a good while back but for now $35,000 you can still get a family SUV for those who have 2.22 kids.
Considering the way their new diesel engines are set up. With access to all main components from the back of the engine requiring entire engine removal for any major repairs. Along with their horrible current diesel engine reputation i would not be in a rush.
Nah I think Mazda have lost the plot lately and their grilles are getting boring and prices ridiculous. And there is no way it's worth 15K more than a Pallisade. Those service prices are just price gouging too.
I lll play the devil advocate here and want to remind you guys that Hyundai really played it very smart (cheap) with the palisade The palisade is nothing more than a santafe with a larger sheet metal!! Same powertrain, chassis, wheelbase; very old engines, cheap front wheel drive platform And cheap feeling cabin tue elite and base trims! I own a palisade epite and after 60,000 km i can tell you it is very economy car built despite the garnishes of tue interior at tue highlander grade Actually palisade is Overpriced for what it is and ince you look underneath it you will see how huyndai are the masters of cost cutting where nobody looks
Mazda is overpriced but the chassis is premium and the engine is a straight 6 , Inprefer the nee crop of mazda engines over the lexus/ toyota 2.4 l turbo 4
I do reckon the base CX90 (priced just under $80k) is the sweet spot to pick if you aren't looking to spend money on sunroof and touch screen. Drive is exactly the same and does have the other key tech elements like 360 camera and heads up display. I am also averaging 8.3L / 100km on 80% freeway / country and 20% city for the Petrol model, pretty decent fuel economy and it is effortless to drive the speed upto 100km / hr. Also noting the 19 inch wheel with 55 profile tyre does make the car more comfortable and lesser noises, also the all models came with double glazed front window to make the cabin quiet.
It's well ahead of the now long in the tooth CX9. It's a pretty decent drive. Not fully perfect, but pretty bloody good . The diesel is again probably the best pick
Beautiful car with a great petrol motor. Very happy with my CX60
Glad you are happy.
My wife and I have volvo xc60 2021 and we took one of these for a drive yesterday and thought it was way better and way nicer inside.
A great SUV, the main issue is pricing. That alone will relegate this as a low volume product. I fear with economic headwinds hitting, and the pivot to EVs... launching an expensive ICE SUV is probably only going to work for 3 years or so before sales dry up and the model dies along with Mazda. If I put my Tony Seba hat on... I predict that there will not be a next gen version of the CX60 or CX90 and the model will disappear before 2030.
Wow. Crystal balling it there! Just know that the platform is “suitable for EV” but it’s not “ideal”, according to the program manager.
@@therightcar Unless Mazda have an EV specific platform they are just not going to get the efficiency good enough or the build costs low enough to compete with Tesla and the Chinese. Also, not being vertically integrated like Tesla means that they will struggle to be cost competitive. If Tony Seba is to be believed (and he has been right so far) Mazda will either go out of business or have to merge given their current EV plans.
Ice will be around for a long time , a huge amount of Australian are not able to charge ev and will not able to for a long time
@@daweigo6851 I’m not so sure if Europe, USA and China pivot to EVs ICE manufacturers may no longer be viable at the volumes.
@@GlowingTube they have a planned scalable architecture, and the start of that product rollout will be a few years.
If i was looking for a Mazda CX90 i would wait for the Hybrid or PHEV if you have personnel plug in facilities. This basic combustion engine is already a Sky Active Dynasaur. As an urbanite the Hybrid would be perfect for that silent and fuel saving experience, and that in itself saves the engine from all the hard work of stopping and going, not to mention the zero poison spewing out of the exhaust when on battery mode/Eco mode when sitting in city traffic or just mooching along at slow speed. Makes perfect sense. The seating for 7 seems to work well so well done to the interior design team in producing a very practical family large SUV mobile.
watch the Car Care nu's review and decide
Our just buy a Kia EV9?
Could you put cost of tyres in running costs. 19 20 now 21 inch wheels. 18 inch RAV4 tyres are expensive enough. Saw a comment onXtrail test owner couldnt buy a tyre in Australia.
That is a bit hard as tyres would be variable pricing when upgrading depending on where and how you buy them.
I an tell you somewhat my experience:
OEM replacement : Continental Contact Sport 5 P235/45/19 V99 (load/speed) range from approx. $350 per corner, so you are looking at $1,400 (depending on where and how you purchase).
I ended up not opting to replace the OEM tyres with OEM, I opted for different brand Goodyear Eagle F1 P235/45/19 V99 for a lot less at $220 per corner for $880, a saving of $520, of which I ended u doing front and rear wheel alignments, all up from the tyre shop (wont mention there name) $990, which is a fair price for the tyres and wheel alignment (front and rear).
Since tyres are a consumable product its always best to shop around and get the best deal which suits your needs.
Nailed it, TGV.
It is way too hard to add tyre consumption costs into running costs - there are so many variables. Bigger tyres will cost more, that’s been the case since 16-inch sporty tyres were “big”. So, as more cars add bigger tyres, the prices will come down.
Either way, smaller tyres still cost less, like a set of 17s might be $1200, while 22s could be $1200 a corner!
Keep up the good work
Just may be a small comment and please dont he offended
Try to choose your words less carefully
You choose them too carefully!
If something is not good, then it not good ; wording like could be better etc does not really deliver the message clearly to the viewer
Again good work
Thanks! Good feedback
Can you please do a review of Mazda cx 30? Many thanks!
I will - there’s an update coming and I’ll cover it.
great thank you! Look forward to it!
@@therightcar
Those SP and Takumi packages are gross. Is there an option to get black interior with captain's chairs?
This car is over priced and the only spark would be the power of the engine but the mild hybrid system is useless anyway that maybe the cause bring the price up. And yes, you need nearly 100k within the top range for the ventilated seat. When I sit in this car in driver seat, my left leg still feel being pushed back from the middle thing, and you cannot easily straight your leg across in the rear seat, just like all MAZDA SUV vehicle. Predicatably, MAZDA will offer discounted price in 2 years for this car as nobody is buying it. If the price to be lowered around 15k to 20k, then it will be a very good choice to compete with Palisade only if Palisade is not going to have its diesel engine upgraded to a 3.0+ Turbo or V6 AWD.
Personally conclusion, good car, over priced, useless hybird system brings the service cost up.
Yeah cool thoughts.
For Mazda’s sake this better be a success in Australia (where a powerful diesel in a Mazda SUV should be a strong seller)- but in the US (where this needs to sell well) diesels don’t sell and Mazda is a pretty niche brand (accepting CX5 and CX50 are reasonably popular there). If CX90 is priced in US around the same as a Genesis it’s DOA
It should be noted the US market version doesn't get the diesel, just the petrol and eventual PHEV. The diesel is pretty much just for us.
@@rexthesheep - yeah Passenger vehicles and diesel don't mix and match at all in the North American market.
Many and I do many people in the NA market seriously want turbo diesel for the mid size trucks (re; Ranger, Colorado, Tacoma, Frontier and others) but the car markers only offer turbo petrol or V6 petrol, while we would like turbo petrol we are stuck with the junk that is turbo diesel and its Euro 6 and soon Euro 7 future issues.
It’s a strange move at a strange time.
Australia is still a rich country ( for some ) if these are for sale in today's climate😅.
Rich for some. Not for many, MANY more.
This vehicle is great..........and will definitely be more reliable than European brands (which often spend more time in the repair shop)
It sounds like you’ve bought one?
@@therightcar
Personally nope.
But my friend in the Philippines bought a Mercedes Benz V220D which spent three visits to the repair shop within the same month.
Also, because Mercedes Benz uses these biodegradable wiring harnesses, they easily melt in hot and humid tropical weather.
He definitely regretted that decision and said that he should've bought a Toyota Granvia / Hiace Super Grandia instead.
I am surprised you didn't tell us if it has a spare tyre?
In the "is it the right size" segment. All have a space saver
I did. Yeah. In the segment where I talked about the boot. It was a graphic. I forgot to film it.
if it had a EUNOS badge on it then maybe, but that Mazda badge is not premium.
As to why Diesel is 10,000/12 months I would think its due to being Euro 6 so the engine would need DPF and DEF checks.
Yeah no thanks Mazda, try again with the Eunos premium badge.
Thanks for your thoughts. Do we really need another Eunos?
@@therightcar - on a different note entirely, I just purchased a Nissan X-Trail Ti NA petrol CVT today, picking it up on potentially Thursday.
Out of all options on offer (and YES I tested around 15 vehicles over a 7 week period, its exhausting, I don't know how you do it) it came down to either Outlander Aspire AWD or X-Trail Ti 4x4 both have the same NA petrol and CVT, the X-Trail just won the battle due to supply as basically no NSW Mitsubishi dealerships have Outlander in Aspire AWD spec until at least early October for delivery, heaps of FWD spec but again matt you buy on needs not wants.
Also yes Mazda wants to go premium? bring back the Eunos brand.
@@351tgvcongrats -- that's the go, and that's about the cadence I have with car testing!!
@@therightcar - thanks Matt,
The diesel is incredibly efficient.
It is.
Pretty expensive and I'm not sure it feels different enough from a Mazda 3 or CX-30 (both of which I own) in terms of switchgear etc etc. I know BMW/Merc/Audi have a Russian Doll thing going too, but it's usually top down, not bottom up... Don't know if I could pony up $100k for a Mazda
Great observation.
Now days oil burners terrible on maintenance over 7 to 10 years...true just ask your local independent mechanics.
They don’t have the greatest rep.
why doesn’t it have privacy glass?
Probably because you can pay extra for that?
What do we reckon where does it stop it's a silly bloody car ...my first house was $30,000 🤪 yes and a good while back but for now $35,000 you can still get a family SUV for those who have 2.22 kids.
Haha, that’s giving a bit away in terms of your age! 😎
Considering the way their new diesel engines are set up. With access to all main components from the back of the engine requiring entire engine removal for any major repairs. Along with their horrible current diesel engine reputation i would not be in a rush.
Have you got mechanical experience? That sounds like doom.
@@therightcarHere's a mechanic who agrees with him: ua-cam.com/video/Dral93gmVkM/v-deo.html Pretty much any engine repair will be an engine out job.
@@corkeymonster yikes
ua-cam.com/video/Dral93gmVkM/v-deo.html@@therightcar
Gorgeous vehicle! Too many compromises!
Well put.
Wow! Expensive!
Yes.
Too expensive. That's the problem.
Nah I think Mazda have lost the plot lately and their grilles are getting boring and prices ridiculous. And there is no way it's worth 15K more than a Pallisade. Those service prices are just price gouging too.
Thanks for the comment. The Palisade reference is on point.
I lll play the devil advocate here and want to remind you guys that Hyundai really played it very smart (cheap) with the palisade
The palisade is nothing more than a santafe with a larger sheet metal!!
Same powertrain, chassis, wheelbase; very old engines, cheap front wheel drive platform
And cheap feeling cabin tue elite and base trims!
I own a palisade epite and after 60,000 km i can tell you it is very economy car built despite the garnishes of tue interior at tue highlander grade
Actually palisade is Overpriced for what it is and ince you look underneath it you will see how huyndai are the masters of cost cutting where nobody looks
Mazda is overpriced but the chassis is premium and the engine is a straight 6 ,
Inprefer the nee crop of mazda engines over the lexus/ toyota 2.4 l turbo 4
Wooo for that price i thought it would be an EV 😂
Maybe the Kia EV9 will make A LOT OF SENSE. 🤗
$75 to $95 Grand for a Mazda i think Mazda are playing with themselves. Also a shame there is no ICE only model.
Wow, you reckon? Would you really prefer a non 48v version?
@@therightcar Yes.
Top spec CX-9 was around the 75-80k mark. No different for today’s inflation.