NEW Cupra Leon Estate Review: A 306HP Golf R Estate Rival | 4K
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- The new Cupra Leon Estate is a 306HP rival to the Golf R Estate. Rory gets behind the wheel to see how it compares to the competition, and to the Cupra Formentor SUV.
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Estates are for those who really do have an active lifestyle: SUV's are for those who pretend they do.
Comments like these are why they need a save button
Brilliant. And true
Suvs used to be bought by people for a good reason these days they just buy em cause they think they are cooler when sitting higher gimmie a wagon over SUV anyday over the week
This.
Indeed, we need more hot estates. Especially electric ones.
The way people stop and stare in confusion when I pull up in my Cupra Leon, because they have no idea what is 🤣.
I've been asked if my car is a transformer on multiple occasions lol. Love the badge.
Enjoy the car! Bravo for going left-field too! Not just going for a Golf GTI….
Transformer😅
@@magnustan841 thank u. Golf is a bit uninteresting/boring in looks. Never been a big fan
Had similar about a week after I took delivery of my Cupra Ateca 😂 I was approached in the local Tesco car park by a little lad who said “hey, mister, my dad says your car is a power ranger car” I literally burst myself laughing 😆
same here, i got the 245hp hybrid and had a person actually wanna take a picture of him with it. he had no idea what it was
Cupra killing it the last few years.
Leon estate is one of the most underrated cars out there and the best thing about it at the lights most people don't realise how quick it is.
Personally prefer estate styling. Look less awkward. Cars such as the merc cla shooting brake really do look more good-looking.
I also agree, I'd even go as far as to say that the vw passat looks better than most suvs, and the vw arteon is gorgeous
Don't like estates or SUV'S . Just give me a hatch any day 🤷🏾 . Minority I know
I love estates. They are practical, roomie and easy to carry shopping in. This sporty version is the icing on the cake 🍰 you cannot not like this car. It looks gorgeous and that's that.
No offense, but I couldn't disagree more. I really dislike the looks of any estate, and a performance estate is a bit sacrilegious. They're just big boxes with bad physics for performance. I'm not saying you can't personally like them, I'm just saying I would much rather prefer a sleeker and better looks saloon, which is still plenty practical.
@@yissibiiyte you've just missed the point of the estate
@@myasin1286 not really. They're not even that practical. Again, there's very little extra practicality in an estate compared to a reasonably sized saloon. Modern saloons are extremely spacious, practical and have enormous boots. Especially liftbacks such as the Audi A7 or AMG GT 4-door, which are just as accomodating as an estate. They are just as practical as estates, but don't look as bad.
@@yissibiiyte i also prefer saloon but estates (wagons) are more practical
@@yissibiiyte if estates are useless compared to saloons then why do you think manufacturers still make them? Surely someone must think there's a valuable reason for having them?
Love a fast estate. Rory's Dad must have had a Marina estate...
It's crazy,that estate looks way better than the pointless SUV
I prefer estate cars for their lower centre of gravity, lower drag en better handling. However I do have to agree that the suv, especially here looks a lot better.
Audi a4 all road would be best of both worlds
To be truthfully honest, an estate is also sacrilegious to good handling, low drag etc. Even though they're lower than SUVs, they'll still completely the wrong shape. If you want real handling, get a saloon or even a hatchback, and they're practicality really isn't that much worse. An estate is never really necessary, it's still a compromise to the physics of performance, just like an SUV, and they're uglier than a regular saloon or liftback.
@@yissibiiyte You buy an estate when you need that extra practicality. Personally I don't need the space at all and a car isn't even practical for me so I would go for a 2 seater sports car or even motorcycle to get the best handling
@@sneaky_krait7271 motorbikes are slower than cars in corners and stopping, and generally faster on the straights
@@redline589 on a circuit with a more expensive car then yes, but when manouvering through a city especially a motorcycle will get you to your destination faster
Rory never disappoints. He gives one a proper assessment of a car that wouldn't make the headline. Rather than simply conclude that the Cupra is VW in automotive drag, Rory gives it a fair assessment. He compares and contrasts the car against VW’s Golf Estate R. He also critically assesses San estate platform against SUV; in both instances he is both candid and spot on. In the end -- just as in all reviews Rory makes -- I weigh his assessment and recommendations. I trust him and simply enjoy the quality of his reviews.
One last thing. Sometimes, Rory is surprisingly Shakespearean. His presentations play out in a polished English form. There are those elements of storytelling, language, humor, and wisdom. Each is baked into a car review. Brilliant.
I get where he's coming from, but it's primarily based on styling. Even if both are the same weight, I would go for the wagon, however. With your head higher above the ground, the same angle pitch and roll, however stiffly sprung, will jostle your head more, which I find annoying
I love how cliche the petrolhead estate obsession is now that a motoring journalist has to clarify when they are NOT into them 😂
Oh yeah, estates are not completely overrated, but the hype within the enthusiasts community is a bit much. I mean, they say SUVs suck, because they’re not aerodynamic and their bigger bodies mean more raw materials, increased environmental impact and costs, blah, blah, blah. Estates have slightly better aero performance, but I’m sure they require a similar amount of raw materials to build. The only benefit of estates over SUVs for the enthusiast, is the lower CG and more sporty handling. So the argument is ever so slightly invalid and all the noise is them just trying to convince people outside the enthusiast community to come round to their way of thinking and buy estates instead of SUVs, because most diehard car lovers are selfish.
@@magnustan841, leaving aside driving characteristics, which of the following practical attributes do you think SUVs are superior in?
Purchase price, fuel consumption, emissions, motor tax (dependent on country)? Oh yeah, none of those.
Storage space -- maybe, depends if you have a long load or a tall load.
@@Radaos It depends, like I said, estates and SUVs do a very similar job, except SUVs ride higher. I’m just noting that some enthusiasts tend to cheer estates and boo SUVs because of external influences and the desire to fit in with the crowd.
@@magnustan841 SUV are for superficial people that take style over substance and most will never use it for its intended purpose. For most that don't actually need an SUV the estate is far better proposition, better in terms of emissions not only for running costs but in manufacture too, handles and drives better and they are way more practical with usually more luggage space and lower load height, great for getting dogs in and out (which is why I have one). Also choose the right one and they look better than most SUVs!
He didn't have to say any of that in the first minute, I've never been so badly hurt by someones words
It's just his opinion, and I actually like the fact that he is honest about his preference. I for one love estates and despise SUVs but there is no reason to be offended by his words...
You've never been hurt more than by a man saying he prefers SUV's to Estates? You must have had a very, very sheltered life.
@@bim8498 It's called exagurating my dude
@@RobertMilat I missed your sarcasm, sorry.
@@bim8498 it's cool
Always good automotive content. Props to producer, Rory, and Auto Trader Team for the quality and consistency. 👍
Wish we had more estates / wagons like this in Canada and USA! JEALOUS! 😭
Don't buy pick up trucks.
@@borosasa3500 if you think we don’t have wagons because of pick ups then you don’t know. It’s the 7 trillion crossovers that women love driving here cuz they feel “safer”.
@@MPPJ1931 I hate crossover and suv
As time has gone on I've become an estate man. Rory as time progresses you might join the club too
ngl estates are my favourite body type
The only negative thing I can say.... Is Rory doesn't do enough reviews! He is always interesting to listen to.
Nice car, super review, as always. Pity, we don't get those here in South Africa.
I always envy Europe when it come to their variety of cars. Maybe if these can be re-introduced again to us South Africans we can now buy them.
Love your videos, it was too early for you on top gear imo. Now you're too good for TG. TOP MAN!
Rory, you are a genius communicator. And by the way, I love station wagons, always have, always will.
I almost ALWAYS prefer an estate to an SUV...but in this case, the Leon estate just looks a bit strange, and the formentor is a cracking looking car
Give me an estate over a bloated, needlessly high and (I think) ugly SUV any day
Depends on how good the styling is take a 3 series estate vs an x3 for example...
The reason we are all there is that the current financial system is outdated
As the value goes up , head start to swivel and skeptics begin to soften .. Starting a new currency is easy , anyone can do it ..The trick is getting people to accept it because it is their use that give the "money" value
Estates all the way: all day, every day.
I'm beginning to suspect that VAG engine puts out the same power regardless of where they put it and then VAG just quote different outputs to create an impression of a hierarchy.
Great vid, top work Rory. Love the new Leon even in ST form.
Estates and small vans are my favourite. Hate SUVs and small hatch's.
hatchs are ugly and sadly everywere all over Europe
Estates are so much better looking than SUVs. Better to drive and cheaper to buy and run. Win win win.
SUV’s are simply the best
I have a MK3 Leon Estate and it's extremely practical. With the seats down you can easily sleep in the back with relative comfort. Day to day with a kid and dog it's ample and with the roof bars and bicycle carrier the interior stays clean.
I'd rather the previous Leon: Cupra R ST with the ABT tune on it 👌
0:25 *Please don’t lose a needle in there Rory ! Lol*
rory how can you NOT like estates, HOW
edit: it’s literally a few seconds later and he has just said he likes SUV’s😒
🤪😆😅🤣
Different horses for different courses. Plus, where is there a rule saying “car guys / enthusiasts must love estates/wagons and hate SUVs”? I’ve never heard of that. It’s a community, we share preferences, debate them at times, but everyone should be respectful of each other. As Josh Revell says, don’t be a manus.
I'll tell you how, because I couldn't agree with Rory more. Estates are completely overrated and I can't stand how everyone is supposed to love them for absolutely no reason. They are hideous to look at. I don't care what you say, the estate version of a car is always so much uglier than its equivalent sedan or hatchback. You can't deny a sedan is so much better looking than an estate. Secondly, the physics of an estate are terrible for performance. They're just big, heavy boxes. Again, a sedan or hatchback is so much better in terms of aerodynamics, handling etc.
Thirdly, despite how everyone preaches about it, they're not even that practical. An estate is hardly any more practical than a reasonably sized family saloon. Modern saloons are extremely spacious, practical and have huge boot space. Especially cars that are actually liftbacks such as an Audi A7 or AMG GT 4-door, which have a boot that is just as enormous, accessible and accomodating as an estate's.
Estates are big and ugly, they're physics are off and they're practicality isn't even that amazing. Estates are completely overrated. There's little an estate can do that a practical sedan can't, except look much uglier and handle much worse. (Sorry for the long rant, I didn't mean anything personally or maliciously.)
@@magnustan841 @Yissi Biiyte Estates aren’t as good looking as their saloon/sedan equivalents but the added practicality and decent performance makes them a great all rounder, also SUV’s these days aren’t made for what SUV’s are supposed to do, even with off roaring tyres they have no hope, i’m not arguing here cos i’m not a massive estate fan but some estates are cool and some SUV’s are cool, at the end of the day we are all petrol heads so that should be what unites us as opposed to our preferences
@@yissibiiyte Try putting a chest of draws in a saloon car's boot, not even that practical my arse. The estate just said it has 200L more boot space, 200L, that's half of a normal saloon's boot by itself so an estate is a saloon with a more practical hatch, what's not to like
I love em. Only draw back is getting ust to parking them. With reverse sensors, there are no issues sept if you find yourself in a tight car park. Worth it
Rory... You're wrong.. Wagons are awesome!!
Different horses for different courses. Plus, where is there a rule saying “car guys / enthusiasts must love estates/wagons and hate SUVs”? I’ve never heard of that. It’s a community, we share preferences, debate them at times, but everyone should be respectful of each other.
@@magnustan841 I absolutely agree with you. But he's still wrong 😂😂😉
@@anthonydeas2173 haha, okay. Don’t read too much into it, he’s probably winding all of us up for entertainment purposes. He already said there are some estates he likes. And I’m sure all those who say they hate SUVs, have one or two SUVs they like as well. It’s all a bunch of noise behind keyboards.
@@magnustan841 I'm. A single guy with no kids, but bizzarely I'd have an estate over an suv... Odd!!!
Wait, dude doesn't have a right to his opinion?? What a narrow thinking...
Looks are up for debate… you have got that right wearing a picasso painting… I haven’t laughed that hard for a while
im liking the video just for the fact that rory is the first ever car journalist that doesnt like estates
I test drove the phev version and I said the same to the salesman, I was like wtf it’s a 1.4, so why am I hearing V8 noises from the speakers.
It’s far more noticeable and surreal when you have the windows open and realise there is no noise coming in from outside
I have one of the last off the line of the previous 2020 model. Absolutely love it. Fast, 4wd, spacious and if gentle on long distance 40mpg. The perfect daily!
From whn I was a tiny boy I loved the estate design but then I started driving and i was introduced to potholes and gravel roads, and i switched to everything raised and 4x4...its only now after watching vids like these that I am starting to reconsider and maybe give them a second chance...
If you have the money, audi a4 avant all road. Raises it up a bit and it has I think a 60/40 quattro system, should be sick
I took delivery of a Cupra Ateca in June 2020, it is staggeringly fast, so assured on the roads, and I have been approached so many times in car parks with people asking what the car is 😂
I was about to disagree but then i thought,if it was my money which would i buy and honestly i would get the suv
Id have the estate, I have the old cupra 290 hatchback now though so real happy. However if the UK got the 2.5L 5 Cyl Formentor I'd go for that in a heartbeat... lol
Just ordered one of these bad boys and absolutely buzzing
It's a good thing I'm not a snob, I love Estates especially for dogs, lower to get in and out of, nice video
Completely agree on the ugly overhang, you really need a long front to balance out that overhang otherwise it looks funky.
Incredible quality videos, in every sense, congratulations! Carwow, watch out!
Just ordered a hybrid estate - enjoyed the review but laughed a lot at the comments because I'm the complete opposite - I absolutely HATE the SUV style that seems to have saturated the market, but have a need for a bit of practicality, so this is perfect for me; and the PHEV option is a no brainer for my current lifestyle.
I must be in a minority because after spending a few days talking to dealers and doing some research it seems most makers are going down the route of pushing SUV for future models. Even those who currently have other options (eg Skoda) have put orders on hold so they can deal with SUV orders as a priority.
When you throw those things together the options available to someone who wants a reasonable sized car, with decent boot space in a PHEV are very very few - I left many showrooms within seconds of saying "not an SUV" 😂
Looks like a decent car, hopefully it'll do me for the next 4 years 🤞👍
Congrats for hitting 600k subs autotrader team😀.Great content like always,keep up the good work🙂.
Baby RS6 I can say💯
It can easily give a reality check to the Audi S5, which has a bigger 3.0 Turbo V6, and it can do 0-100 in 4.8 seconds, and this Cupra Leon estate is powered with a smaller 2.0 turbo 4-cyl engine and can do 0-100 in 4.9 seconds, which is so much from a small engine, as compared to the Audi S5's big 3.0 V6, which is just 0.1 seconds faster than the Cupra Leon estate..
Lol before he even went on a rant about the design I was already saying to myself “I actually don’t like the estate that much and prefer the hatchback and SUV”.
Estate every time over an SUV
I didn’t realize I Loved Wagons(Estates) until The SUV Craze Began!!🤷🏽♂️
I like the Formentor a lot more, thanks for the review.
Great work as always Rory. Any chance of doing a hot hatch estate shoot out. Have twins of 6 months and a shed load of baby crap to lug around. Not just a review on out right performance but one that puts a huge smile on your face.
love their logo. he didnt talk about the charging port
performance wagons are chariots of the gods.
I would love a podcast with Rory in it
🤯 what is that hoody, colour overload!
So, this is basically a VW? We don't have this brand in the US.
Yeap it's on the golf platform and they share powertrains and many components.
Well.. Thanks Rory for being super transparent about the person you are. While I have to respect everyones choices, what I can do is regard ur reviews and talks as if it were from a generic petrolhead (ph). And even after u have driven much more than me/others, that view is what differentiates a car lover / generic ph from a real ph.
Love the hoodie!
Does anybody knows the brand of hoodie? Thanks
This guy is far away from the reality of many adults having a family and need a practical car...an estate is still the best option...just take a look at the Formentors boot in comparison to the Leon...which imho looks better than the overstyled Formentor.
Formentor is definitely overstyled, and it kinda reminds me of a RAV4.
Nice car, all Cupras are. The problem is you can't buy them. Martorell factory is crippled because of the semiconductors shortage.
Haha from a Formentor owner, I still think the estate is a great looking car but I prefer the muscular bonnet and height of the Formentor. Same issues with the darned infotainment system though!
Reasonably fast car? Yes. Should think so with 300bhp plus. Nice to see another performance estate car. This time from Cupra
There has never been an estate version of a hatchback that looks better than the hatchback in my opinion. On the other hand, every estate version of a saloon car looks better than the saloon
Finally a car guy who says it loud. Wagons are ugly. They always have been and the practicality doesn't compensate. End groupthink, the Miata is average, no one except old boring uncles and dads should buy a wagon, and that's exactly why the sales are so poor.
That hoodie is sick!
I think that these are cars with a purpose in the world of antique trading everyone and their mother has an estate. Usually the Volvo but creeping in are other varieties and I can see this being championed by many
Been seeing these a lot more recently, nice sight on the road
What not to love? Estate? You wake up in the morning and you donk like estates, oranges and soup plates?
An estate will always be better than a SUV. Driving and practicality wise. Also looks better for me.
I like your reviews but I wish you could review the sound systems of the cars that you review .
Your not alone I'm not keen on estate cars either and I have had loads off cars
1:01 Rory says he don't like estates, he prefers SUVs.
Funny I am coming from a video in which he explains why estates are better.
Thanks god I'm not a billionaire or else I'll buy every car Rory review 😅💸
SUV = higher ride height will less space. How can you prefer it to an estate exactly?
" I don't like station wagons, I like raised up station wagons" lol
I have a fast Audi A6 S-Line quattro Avant in Misano Red and love it!
Rory is a great presenter.
Wish we had more fast wagons here I'm the states than the 6 figure ones
Great review...very indepth! This was like reading the manual but more fun :) Do people even read manuals anymore though...lol. Great job on your video :)
That’s the sort of thing that someone with a family says who has bought an estate because they need the space but deep down they would probably prefer an SUV - I can’t think of another reason why someone who prefers an estate would find it necessary to say what you’ve said otherwise? - after all at the end of the day it’s all down to personal choice - if you love your estate that’s great but why trash talk people who prefer SUVs?
I was distracted by the hoodie
I really loved the looks of the Formentor till I saw it right next to the Leon. Same car just taller
This is better than the Golf R estate.... Even the Cupra Born is better than the ID.3...
Sh*t. Almost started dancing.
The head was bopping tho.
Awesome, but would also prefer a Formentor... by far!
A car guy/petrol head preferring SUVs over estates/wagons/shooting brakes, is really an oddity and a strange thing to hear.. I don't think that there's a car out there that I don't like more as an estate than in a sedan version. From Alfa 156/159 to Audi A4/A6 to Mercedes C/E class to any Volvo ever made. Even today my "one car to rule them all" or a single dream car to own, is the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo. And before that gem was produced this title was held for years by every single version of the Audi RS6 that came out. I don't think that I was ever excited by any SUV. There are few I would like to own like the Q8, Stelvio or Lambo Urus, but I'd still choose the Cross Turismo over any of them...
That hoodie 😆
I totally agree brother I don't like estates either. They are for grand dads. What about the Cupra's reliability?
Yes yes Real World Rory! 😊👍🏾
You don't like estates? ..
What about the Audi RS6 Avant ??? 🤔
🤣 had to double take and look at rory's hoodie, if he wasnt so good at his job I would have mullered his choice of top 🤣🤣
Cupra Leon ST 310 with all options or BMW 330i Touring Sportline with just standard kit? Which would you choose?
Fast estates-best cars! And think this is the best out of them all, price included. Pity it’s not got the copper wheels and all round copper highlights, if it’s really a Cupra?
To me the Only estates that looks good are the rs's from Audi
You should be able to choose what engine noise you get pumped in. Have a v8 one day then a v12 the next
Sausage dog eh 😄 nice hoodie Rory!
And don't hate on station wagons ☺
A real car guy wouldn't ever take a suv over a lower car