High-Impact Homebrew Battle w/ The Nitpicking Nerds! | Extra Turns 51 | Magic MTG Commander Gameplay

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    Show Notes:
    Get ready for a game that comes blazing out the gates and then never lets up!
    In this exciting Extra Turns, Nitpicking Nerds Mia and Beezy are back, alongside returning favorite Ashlen Rose, to face Rachel Weeks in a contest of crazy swings and brutal counterplays. You’re going to want to keep your eyes glued to the screen for this one, because in a battle like this, it’s truly not over until it’s over!
    It’s Ramos vs. Tocasia vs. Admiral Brass vs. Nashi
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    Sound Mix: Arthur Meadowcroft
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 148

  • @NitpickingNerds
    @NitpickingNerds 22 години тому +177

    This game was SPICY 🌶️🌶️🌶️ 🔥 thanks for having us!

    • @Chaoslorden
      @Chaoslorden 19 годин тому +2

      Really wanted that door to resolve so they could have done a cool animation too! Next time....!

    • @Nvgification
      @Nvgification 19 годин тому

      "more... MORE... MOREEE"

    • @ll4mag4m3r7
      @ll4mag4m3r7 18 годин тому +3

      Cannot believe how tall beezy is

    • @millzy8885
      @millzy8885 17 годин тому +1

      NitpickingNerds are SPICY🌶🌶🌶

    • @bunkmastab
      @bunkmastab 16 годин тому +2

      Dibs

  • @MM-lv7iy
    @MM-lv7iy 22 години тому +38

    8:58 Rhystic Study, Rhystic Buddy, and Rhystic Fishy all on turn 3 or earlier: that’s when you know the game’s gonna take awhile…

    • @caseywellington4761
      @caseywellington4761 15 годин тому +6

      It’s Fishstick Study

    • @sunflowertheog
      @sunflowertheog 12 годин тому +1

      i was surprised to see how crazy the board was by turn 2-3. multiple draw engines, rachel is casting spells for free, beezy is chillin with his hands in his pockets

    • @dmim13
      @dmim13 12 годин тому +1

      Is it Fishstick Study or Mystic Study?

  • @oliverupdyke1429
    @oliverupdyke1429 21 годину тому +63

    Its poetic that Ashlen is playing a pirate deck on international talk like a pirate day!

    • @frankmorris4603
      @frankmorris4603 18 годин тому +4

      I believe she also debut on this show with a Pirate deck

    • @anthonysulpizio2269
      @anthonysulpizio2269 17 годин тому +2

      And she debuted with the original admiral brass on the ixalan game knights

  • @epsilonkurobasa3917
    @epsilonkurobasa3917 21 годину тому +55

    I would LOVE to see Maldhound and Magic the Noa in one of these

  • @ScarsMclovin
    @ScarsMclovin 22 години тому +13

    Fitting how ashlyn plays becket brass on "talk like a pirate" day

  • @kfunky209
    @kfunky209 20 годин тому +6

    "Spiked Nashi" sounds like a festive drink

  • @ulfsaar2583
    @ulfsaar2583 22 години тому +58

    OH MY GOD. It’s my two crushes. Beezy and Beezy

  • @nicholasrolo886
    @nicholasrolo886 20 годин тому +2

    13:27 "Dice and Rings and an Aura under my Saga" sounds like it could be a tavern

  • @Dragoneyes15198
    @Dragoneyes15198 19 годин тому +14

    @46:20 Vanquisher's Banner will only trigger once because the island was already in play and therefore wont get the ability to choose a creature type. The copy is an artifact that does nothing essentially. Ashlen should only have drawn one card.
    Ruling as listed from The Myriad Pools: "Because the target permanent isn't entering the battlefield when it becomes a copy of a permanent spell, any "When [this permanent] enters the battlefield" or "[This permanent] enters the battlefield with" abilities of the copied spell won't apply for the target permanent."

  • @mistermerced
    @mistermerced 16 годин тому +1

    ASHLEN on Pirates is why I made my first EDH Admiral Beckett Brass! I remember taking it to Magic fest in 2019 and being like the only pirate guy there!

  • @ThisIsACommanderChannel
    @ThisIsACommanderChannel 22 години тому +5

    Huzzah! More Extra Turns! Love this series.

  • @slothmoth2389
    @slothmoth2389 16 годин тому +4

    First episode of Extra Turn that I've seen and I had no idea how impressive the editing was. It was a really great match to watch but that editing *really* helps to follow it!

  • @FanOfMostEverything
    @FanOfMostEverything 19 годин тому +4

    That "Oh yarr" was funnier than it had any right to be, as was "Yeah, you have a monkey reprieve." Very fun game!

  • @carlosbravo6669
    @carlosbravo6669 15 годин тому +1

    I love to see a Regeneration effect have an impact in the game!

  • @Ghettonerd12
    @Ghettonerd12 22 години тому +2

    Finally someone did one of my favorite decks Ramos😁

  • @RickyChops
    @RickyChops 22 години тому +24

    Whatever you’re paying Rachel, go ahead and double it.

    • @MONTUSKER
      @MONTUSKER 2 години тому +1

      I wonder how much she would be paying if she actually listened to this comment every video lmfao probably several millions

  • @EquinoxKillz
    @EquinoxKillz 20 годин тому +1

    I now need a full Life is a Resource song lol

  • @Joshbobjovi
    @Joshbobjovi Годину тому

    Ashlen hitting them with an "oh yarr" and getting hardly any laughs from it is heartbreaking lol

  • @ferraghini9536
    @ferraghini9536 5 годин тому

    You know it’s a good day when the command zone uploads a video

  • @NoFoxGiven247
    @NoFoxGiven247 21 годину тому +2

    27:11 "Raaacheel!" *canned laughter*

  • @tommieboi707
    @tommieboi707 21 годину тому +3

    Mia was MIA all game! What happened?!

  • @darksiders18
    @darksiders18 Годину тому

    I love the Nickpicking Nerds, I watched their videos alot.

  • @newt8655
    @newt8655 12 годин тому

    I forget how impressive Beckett Brass the Unsinkable is

  • @DarkMewtwo1994
    @DarkMewtwo1994 18 годин тому

    Always a good episode when Ashlen or the nerds are on, but both?!? Hot damn! Can't wait to see how it plays out

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel 18 годин тому

    It's good to see Ashlen doing well, considering she definitely took a Grievous Wound in the newest set.

  • @JLKaizen
    @JLKaizen 17 годин тому

    The removal package wasn’t where I expected

  • @KingCaiiTV
    @KingCaiiTV 16 годин тому

    I LOVE the Earl of Squirrel shirt!

  • @scottricks1676
    @scottricks1676 18 годин тому +1

    I’m always so conflicted with protection racket! (That is wether to run it or not)

  • @joschajustinski14
    @joschajustinski14 17 годин тому

    Love those unique Decks (: I hope I can see Mia door someone on a future gameplay or beezy getting unkillable with his angel :D

  • @GeorgePeterVO
    @GeorgePeterVO 9 годин тому

    This was such a fun episode to watch! Hope y'all liked the pirate deck >:)

  • @zeldaso2ff299
    @zeldaso2ff299 10 годин тому

    Rachel ate. When she pulled that Ashiok, and if it would have stayed enough time in the battlefield, it would have easily taken one player out.

  • @markc6571
    @markc6571 15 годин тому +1

    Wait... Extra Turns is out before Duskmourn Game Knights?

  • @ezmer2dragon
    @ezmer2dragon 18 годин тому +6

    Am I mistaken but shouldn’t the saga “One Ring to Rule Them All” supposed to be destroyed when it became a forest from the enchantment? I know that “Urza’s Saga” is destroyed when a “Spreading Seas” is enchanted on it.

    • @FanOfMostEverything
      @FanOfMostEverything 16 годин тому +9

      The key difference is that Spreading Seas makes Urza's Saga lose its chapter abilities, but it's still a Saga (and thus one that has lore counters equal to or greater than its highest chapter, which becomes 0.) Song of the Dryads removes all _card_ types, so One Ring is no longer a Saga at all.

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 8 годин тому

      There's a slight difference in wording that is huge (because of the rules behind those words). I'm noting the relevant rules from the Comprehensive Rules in brackets if you want to look them up.
      Song of the Dryads says "Enchanted permanent is a colorless Forest land".
      Spreading Seas says "Enchanted land is an Island".
      The big difference in question here is the word "land" (after "is" - there's no difference between "enchanted permanent" and "enchanted land"). That means that the permanent becomes a land, and thus it loses all other types [205.1a], such as creature or enchantment, because it doesn't say "in addition to its other types" [205.1b]. So the Saga is _just_ a land, and since it loses its enchantment type, it loses all subtypes associated to it [205.1a again], in this case Saga.
      On the other hand, Spreading Seas only turns the land into an Island. This is granting it a basic land type, which makes it lose all land subtypes and all abilities [305.7]. However, this doesn't remove any other types or nonland subtypes, so the permanent is still an enchantment and a Saga. There's a state-based action that causes Sagas to be sacrificed when the number of lore counters they have is greater than or equal to their final chapter number [714.4, 704.5s], as long as there isn't a chapter ability for that Saga still on the stack (or about to be put on the stack). But the final chapter number for the Saga is determined by its chapter abilities [714.2d], and, since the Saga has lost all abilities, its final chapter number is zero. As the Saga-turned-Island will always have zero or more lore counters (because this is true of all objects in the game), it is sacrificed for this reason - note that it's key to this rule that the permanent is still a Saga.

    • @joshrivet4011
      @joshrivet4011 6 годин тому

      So does that mean if someone were to flash out Spreading Seas on a creature land after it's been activated, it would be a Basic Land - Island Elemental until end of turn, in which case it would return to just being a Basic Land - Island?

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 6 годин тому

      @@joshrivet4011 That's exactly how it works!
      EDIT: keep in mind, though, that Spreading Seas doesn't make the land basic (if it wasn't basic already).

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 13 годин тому +1

    Rachel is crazy good

  • @Patrickmw23
    @Patrickmw23 21 годину тому

    kinda sad that we didnt get to see the door in action, but it was a great game anyways! :)

  • @tonycharrin7524
    @tonycharrin7524 19 годин тому

    Awesome game, awesome guests. I was really hoping to see a door to nothingness victory.

  • @Metroidhunter13
    @Metroidhunter13 10 годин тому

    Loved that game. Super awesome!

  • @TheStan690
    @TheStan690 16 годин тому

    Awesome game, love the brews!!

  • @PALIGames
    @PALIGames 17 годин тому

    seems like there wasnt enough mill in the pirates

  • @tommieboi707
    @tommieboi707 22 години тому +2

    Last time i was this early, grave titan was still the strongest card in magic!

  • @mmjj1361
    @mmjj1361 15 годин тому

    Nitpicking Nerds, Ashlen Rose, and Rachel Weeks in the same episode!!??? *checks calendar* Christmas is 3 months away, what in the world?

  • @AbyssArray
    @AbyssArray 22 години тому

    Been waiting for this one, hype!

  • @maruhto3508
    @maruhto3508 15 годин тому

    beezys facepalm when rhystic study comes down at 8:52 hahahah. what an explosive start for rachel, + massive card draw for the other two

  • @zerotsang4604
    @zerotsang4604 18 годин тому +1

    i though it you enchant a sage, it complete all the sage and gets destroyed. So it no longer a forest.

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 15 годин тому +1

      It's not a saga though. Song of the Dryads makes it only into a Land - Forest. Since it's no longer an enchantment, it loses the Saga subtype.
      Blood Moon/Urza's Saga is different, because while Blood Moon makes Urza's Saga into a Mountain, the land is still an enchantment, and it still has its enchantment subtypes (changing land subtypes won't affect its enchantment subtypes).

  • @gparry12
    @gparry12 22 години тому

    That tumbler cup on your desk needs a a straw and a "Strawgitator"!

  • @joshrivet4011
    @joshrivet4011 6 годин тому

    Hold on a second... doesn't The One Ring to Rule Them All just immediately get sacrificed like Urza's Saga under similar effects?

  • @chrispose1916
    @chrispose1916 19 годин тому

    Really cool brews 🔥🔥❤️‍🔥

  • @Knightfox650
    @Knightfox650 18 годин тому

    "♪♪♪ Life is a resource and I'm gonna spend it all game long♪♪♪"

  • @shadedcorner
    @shadedcorner 17 годин тому

    Hey guys? There's an unfortunate audio glitch in Ashlyn's go phrase

  • @angryheathen3463
    @angryheathen3463 18 годин тому

    Ashlen is by far my favorite player

  • @chrissul2875
    @chrissul2875 22 години тому

    I'm so pumped for this

  • @johnlemon9983
    @johnlemon9983 15 годин тому

    been waiting for this one

  • @Mad.Edd.702
    @Mad.Edd.702 17 годин тому

    Omfg reachel and Ashlyn this is ducking fantastic and of course the nerds are always a good time ❤

  • @dracomancer9295
    @dracomancer9295 22 години тому

    Love the content keep it up!!!!

  • @woodoowooda_yt1713
    @woodoowooda_yt1713 18 годин тому +1

    Mia with the Bosuman and Fabric of the universe drip! lets goooo

  • @pawatvongpradit7137
    @pawatvongpradit7137 9 годин тому

    30:36 I think enchantress can’t be target because of shroud? Or I was wrong

  • @berryjon
    @berryjon 20 годин тому

    City of Brass and Admiral Brass on the board at the same time, and you let that go without a joke?!?!? For shame! *keeps watching*

  • @ronnierodriguez6247
    @ronnierodriguez6247 18 годин тому

    i wonder if your doing a duskmourn episode?

  • @sunstrid3r44
    @sunstrid3r44 14 годин тому

    Anyone knows the name of the original version of the music Rachel sings right before the game starts?

  • @pintlemounted
    @pintlemounted 16 годин тому

    Video two of asking for the jump scare deck soon

  • @evodium1741
    @evodium1741 22 години тому +3

    No duskmourn precon game?

    • @Hurricayne92
      @Hurricayne92 21 годину тому

      That will be on Game Knights

  • @alexdesbiens1875
    @alexdesbiens1875 19 годин тому

    Let's be honest mia and breezy already play those deck in an another show.

  • @elliotkach1265
    @elliotkach1265 17 годин тому

    Doesn't the saga become sacrificed once it becomes a land? I can't remember if this works exactly the same way but I know that when Urza's sage becomes a different type of land it loses all of its counters and immediately gets sacked.

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 15 годин тому

      It's not a saga though. Song of the Dryads makes it only into a Land - Forest. Since it's no longer an enchantment, it loses the Saga subtype.
      Blood Moon/Urza's Saga is different, because while Blood Moon makes Urza's Saga into a Mountain, the land is still an enchantment, and it still has its enchantment subtypes (changing land subtypes won't affect its enchantment subtypes).

  • @WangerZ3291
    @WangerZ3291 2 години тому

    How did the green player lose?

  • @bnbnews7907
    @bnbnews7907 12 годин тому

    Love u ash and rachel!!!!. U rock!!!!!

  • @shirokumaotaku
    @shirokumaotaku 22 години тому

    Probably the earliest I've ever been to a game

  • @MintyMagicMTG
    @MintyMagicMTG 8 годин тому

    I will never understand why he goes by Beezy. Does he not know what that means in its slang form? Like does he introduce himself that way?

  • @sreyn237
    @sreyn237 13 годин тому

    Wait did the name change?

  • @adamwitt9311
    @adamwitt9311 15 годин тому

    anybody know why i cant find the upgrade decklistfor spirit squadron on their archkidekt profile?? any help would be appreciated!!

  • @Srodi
    @Srodi 20 годин тому

    Mia's voice is so soothing.

  • @potatodavid1987
    @potatodavid1987 21 годину тому +2

    I have never seen anyone actually do anything with a Ramos deck. Like I'm sure you can, but I've never witnessed it first hand.

  • @AbyssArray
    @AbyssArray 21 годину тому

    I think Beezy missed a Ondu Spiritdancer trigger from Treachery entering @ 30:30

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 21 годину тому +4

      Treachery is entering before the Spiritdancer enters (Rachel cast the March with the Spiritdancer still on the stack, and he responded by using the Mythmaker to put the Treachery onto the battlefield).

    • @AbyssArray
      @AbyssArray 19 годин тому

      @@Natedogg2 Aaah okay, it looked like it was on the field, makes sense

  • @codydietiker7696
    @codydietiker7696 22 години тому

    I have been waiting 🎉

  • @tbclabamba8051
    @tbclabamba8051 18 годин тому

    Beezy did nothing wrong, why was he murdered?

  • @crusnik_0014
    @crusnik_0014 22 години тому

    First.... to get knocked out the game lol this should be interesting🎉❤

  • @meanest3520
    @meanest3520 20 годин тому

    I'm new to MTG could someone clarify the interaction at 30:24 for me please? How comes treachery doesn't count as targeting the argothian enchantress? I thought aura spells or enchant spells are required to target something?

    • @crawdaddy2004
      @crawdaddy2004 20 годин тому +3

      Totally fair question. Auras only target if they are on the stack (being cast). However, if an aura is just “put into play,” they never technically target anything and can therefore attach to permanents they wouldn’t normally be able to attach to.

    • @Charles_Thiboutot-Lessard
      @Charles_Thiboutot-Lessard 20 годин тому +1

      I think its because aura cards only target when cast, so when it comes back from grave, it does not target and you can choose a creature to enchant. Its a bit of a weird situation. Would love if someone had the specific ruling!

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 20 годин тому +2

      Aura *spells* on the stack target. An aura that's being put onto the battlefield without being cast does not target, you just choose something legal to attach it to. Treachery is being put onto the battlefield without being cast, so they just choose a legal creature to attach it to (and since it's not targeting, they can choose to attach it to something with shroud).

    • @snakeman830
      @snakeman830 20 годин тому +1

      While your question has already been answered, it is worth mentioning that this workaround does not avoid Protection from the aura. Those still remain illegal options to enchant.

    • @crawdaddy2004
      @crawdaddy2004 20 годин тому +1

      @@snakeman830 I believe you’re both right and wrong. The aura should attach, but then state-based effects would check and see the enchanted permanent has protection and make the aura fall off. So if you had something that drew cards whenever an enchantment entered the battlefield, that would still trigger.

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy 21 годину тому

    GG ❤❤❤

  • @VagrantKing
    @VagrantKing 9 годин тому

    I have a spicy Tocasia deck myself. I’d like to run it against Craig if ever got the chance. It’s infect/artifact/reanimator/voltron 😂

  • @dragonecethefirst9229
    @dragonecethefirst9229 20 годин тому

    YEAHHHSS I was among the first 700 likers XD

  • @Deceptibot94
    @Deceptibot94 20 годин тому

    TRASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSH

  • @microdog
    @microdog 19 годин тому

    Archenemy.

  • @nickil3239
    @nickil3239 22 години тому

    Love you guys and the nerds but…..the week of duskmourn prerelease??

  • @FatihCanak-m2i
    @FatihCanak-m2i 18 годин тому

    Lewis Melissa Lee Mary Allen Ruth

  • @smurfton14
    @smurfton14 2 години тому

    What a fantastic pod! Really enjoyed this one 🤎

  • @fakename8030
    @fakename8030 18 годин тому

    Nitpicking nerds with no Joe🍒? Damn

  • @TropicPigeon
    @TropicPigeon 47 хвилин тому

    4:41 my audio went out at the perfect moment here "Arrrlright lets F___"

  • @Sparty79
    @Sparty79 12 годин тому

    what a snoozer.................zzzzzzzzzzz

  • @frankdefanti3455
    @frankdefanti3455 21 годину тому +1

    The enchanted saga should have gone to the graveyard. According to the rules, a permanent with lore counters with no chapters is sacrificed as a state based action (like urza's saga and blood moon interaction)

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 21 годину тому +5

      It's not a saga though. Song of the Dryads makes it only into a Land - Forest. Since it's no longer an enchantment, it loses the Saga subtype.
      Blood Moon/Urza's Saga is different, because while Blood Moon makes Urza's Saga into a Mountain, the land is still an enchantment, and it still has its enchantment subtypes (changing land subtypes won't affect its enchantment subtypes).

    • @snakeman830
      @snakeman830 20 годин тому

      Incorrect. Blood Moon doesn't remove the Enchantment type or Saga subtype. The actual rule is that a saga with lore counters equal or greater than the number of chapter abilities it has and has no abilities on the stack is sacrificed as a state based action. Any non-saga permanent can have lore counters on it with no issue.

    • @Kazz1187
      @Kazz1187 18 годин тому

      So should it have been sacrificed or nah?

    • @frankdefanti3455
      @frankdefanti3455 18 годин тому

      Make sense. Thanks for correcting my comment :)

    • @frankdefanti3455
      @frankdefanti3455 18 годин тому

      @kazz1187 no, It should not been sacrificed.

  • @TheMrbrisa
    @TheMrbrisa 22 години тому

    1

  • @MrRomanrin
    @MrRomanrin 6 годин тому

    CAN WE BAN/STOP PLAYING ESPER SENTINEL AND RHYSTIC STUDY ????
    plz
    ITS FREAKING STUPID

    • @KnicKnac
      @KnicKnac 6 годин тому

      Nope. They are playable cards. Instead how about we don't have a ban list for a CASUAL format.

  • @Nobodysbusiness0
    @Nobodysbusiness0 19 годин тому

    Yeah nah got to skip this one fml

  • @jacobalbert2603
    @jacobalbert2603 18 годин тому

    I HATE people who don't pay the one.

  • @captainhidsight
    @captainhidsight 17 годин тому

    too many games with josh....

  • @Dustey
    @Dustey 22 години тому

    1st to comment.

  • @fr3307
    @fr3307 22 години тому

    First comment!

  • @paolocantoni7065
    @paolocantoni7065 17 годин тому +1

    Rachel is a very medium level player,

  • @P3rvenc
    @P3rvenc 15 годин тому

    8:20 yes a """"""""brew"""""""", aka 5 color staples tribal

  • @sefilontheultamitetimelord7874
    @sefilontheultamitetimelord7874 16 годин тому

    4:43 I'M SORRY, DID I HEAR ASHLEN GO "Allllright, let's f*ck"????

  • @majestyzx9081
    @majestyzx9081 22 години тому +1

    3:25 Should've said "Graveyarrrrrg".

  • @equos5060
    @equos5060 18 годин тому

    4:43 Agrrr agrrr lets f...!