Once you started playing after you changed your strings, the difference in tone was immediately clear. You mentioned briefly that it might not translate in the recording, but it totally did! Thanks for making this vid. I think I'm gonna save up for this string configuration instead of a set of Kaplans.
I recommend the tungsten Spirocore for G and C - they start off REALLY metallic, but after a few months, they "warm up" and retain that clarity. I've also achieved way more sound up in the high range of my G string than I've ever had before. Worth the 150+ dollars. And I don't recommend changing strings every year. The G and C strings can be changed every 5 to 8 years. They are really built to last.
World of diference. Even my industrially damaged hearing can percieve a difference. Much more authorative(?) tone. A friend of mine is a fine guitarist. We've often discussed the merits of new strings for major performances. I wonder if that could apply to the viol family.
I wonder if you could do a video talking about he different cello's that are pictured here, i guess particularly the slim box looking one on the wall. this is fascinating.
I didn't like Spirocore Silver C and G. My luthier recommended that when was in college. I had to press my fingers harder to get a good sound, plus they had an unexpected choking or hacking sound especially in the C string. I switched to a Helicore set which was ideal and easier to play. I know every instrument is different but I prefer Helicore.
Can you tell us what makes a $30k cello worth so much more than a Jay Haide or Eastman Strings? I'd seriously like to know. No Luthier has talked about this themselves on their own UA-cam channel or in an interview. Most are very vague when talking about their own works. We never see the inside of their cello's or violins...compared to a quality "workshop" cello that is more concerned about selling quantities...both involve a lot of hand-work. Both use power tools at some point. Both can use spruce (varying age and quality...and maybe maple)...
Waiting for ANY string to BREAK can actually be dangerous ! for instance broking an A string breaking WHILE playing can have it literally whip into your face or worse, your eye! You've got an expensive instrument - it deserves the best in strings at regular intervals : - ) it's also a good idea to wipe the new strings clean of their protective machine oil BEFORE you install them. I like the tempo you play the piece in - some people play it WAY too quickly !
The metallic sounds does get better.. however you need to tune them up a bit in the beginning, so the strings gets "pulled apart" a bit.. if you understand what i mean... ;-)
Maybe stupid question, Im not a cello player, but maybe you should just have tried cleaning the strings first? I play guitar and on guitars, the strings become dirty because the string surface is a spun string around a metal core, and dirt gets stuck in the seams of the spin
Interesting that you don't recommend a silver G string, because I actually prefer silver over tungsten for G. C on the other hand, it's tungsten all the way.
Well it depends on which strings are using... Sometimes I change them just because I want to experiment. I usually change the top two in about 3-4 months because they lose the sound quality quite fast, especially the A. They are best from 2nd to 4th week, then to me it feels like they start to lose the edge quite rapidly, when I no longer can make the sound I want I change them. The bottom two strings I rarely change, year ago after a lot of experimenting I found out that spirocore tungsten C and G work best for my cello, it took 2 months for them to settle down and since then they seem to me the same or even better, mellow yet edgy. It's been over a year and I believe they will stay on for another 2.. On another cello that I don't play a lot I have set of pir. permanents, they are on for 5 years and still sound the same to me...
my celllo has strings by a brand that went out of business 40 years ago! its definitely been on the instrument for over a decade but i think they sound fine. it all depends on what sound you like, but i think changing strings every few years is fine for most
Spirocore strings ARE NOT stable - no matter what the label says. I live in the Midwest and we go from cold and dry in the winter to hot and muggy in the summer. Certain climate changes and practice halls affect tuning and intonation problems. I played in an opera where I didn't have time to tune, cold that evening and my C string went false a couple of times. It was embarrassing. I even noticed that the other day practicing Mendelssohn and even Popper etudes / double stops. I hope to get a new cello soon - preferably carbon fiber.
Your soundpost can fall while changing strings? That means it's not long enough, get a new one! It should be jammed between the front and back properly
I know it can fall but then it means the sound post is too short for the cello, luthier jams it inside also without stings and it's pretty tight, I almost passed out when he was putting it in, the noises were just horrible. I change my bridge from time to time and I'm sure the soundpost will not move. If your soundpost falls just take the cello to a luthier and he will make a new one, it will take half an hour and it will fit so you don't need to worry everytime you change the strings...
Once you started playing after you changed your strings, the difference in tone was immediately clear. You mentioned briefly that it might not translate in the recording, but it totally did! Thanks for making this vid. I think I'm gonna save up for this string configuration instead of a set of Kaplans.
that helped it out a bunch! has a lot of punch and very bright.
I recommend the tungsten Spirocore for G and C - they start off REALLY metallic, but after a few months, they "warm up" and retain that clarity. I've also achieved way more sound up in the high range of my G string than I've ever had before. Worth the 150+ dollars. And I don't recommend changing strings every year. The G and C strings can be changed every 5 to 8 years. They are really built to last.
My string combination of choice has been Jargar medium A and D and Spirocore chrome steel G and C for several years.
I love open string double stops😍😍😍 especially c and g
Thank you for the helpful video. Very good insights.
World of diference. Even my industrially damaged hearing can percieve a difference. Much more authorative(?) tone. A friend of mine is a fine guitarist. We've often discussed the merits of new strings for major performances. I wonder if that could apply to the viol family.
I wonder if you could do a video talking about he different cello's that are pictured here, i guess particularly the slim box looking one on the wall. this is fascinating.
Thats great mr. Cobain!
0:51 vs 4:34
Brighter upper end, growling C and G👍🏼
I didn't like Spirocore Silver C and G. My luthier recommended that when was in college. I had to press my fingers harder to get a good sound, plus they had an unexpected choking or hacking sound especially in the C string. I switched to a Helicore set which was ideal and easier to play. I know every instrument is different but I prefer Helicore.
sounding Goooooood
which jargar did you use？I really like this sound. Thank!!!
What is the tune called that you are playing?
Can you tell us what makes a $30k cello worth so much more than a Jay Haide or Eastman Strings? I'd seriously like to know. No Luthier has talked about this themselves on their own UA-cam channel or in an interview. Most are very vague when talking about their own works. We never see the inside of their cello's or violins...compared to a quality "workshop" cello that is more concerned about selling quantities...both involve a lot of hand-work. Both use power tools at some point. Both can use spruce (varying age and quality...and maybe maple)...
Waiting for ANY string to BREAK can actually be dangerous ! for instance broking an A string breaking WHILE playing can have it literally whip into your face or worse, your eye! You've got an expensive instrument - it deserves the best in strings at regular intervals : - ) it's also a good idea to wipe the new strings clean of their protective machine oil BEFORE you install them. I like the tempo you play the piece in - some people play it WAY too quickly !
have them setlled down? They say the mettalic sound gets better after a few weeks...
The metallic sounds does get better.. however you need to tune them up a bit in the beginning, so the strings gets "pulled apart" a bit.. if you understand what i mean... ;-)
I have just fitted a pirastra set to my bottom two and they sound so tinny right now. Hoping this happens
Maybe stupid question, Im not a cello player, but maybe you should just have tried cleaning the strings first? I play guitar and on guitars, the strings become dirty because the string surface is a spun string around a metal core, and dirt gets stuck in the seams of the spin
Interesting that you don't recommend a silver G string, because I actually prefer silver over tungsten for G. C on the other hand, it's tungsten all the way.
You only change strings once a year!? I have to change mine normally around 5 months
Well it depends on which strings are using... Sometimes I change them just because I want to experiment. I usually change the top two in about 3-4 months because they lose the sound quality quite fast, especially the A. They are best from 2nd to 4th week, then to me it feels like they start to lose the edge quite rapidly, when I no longer can make the sound I want I change them. The bottom two strings I rarely change, year ago after a lot of experimenting I found out that spirocore tungsten C and G work best for my cello, it took 2 months for them to settle down and since then they seem to me the same or even better, mellow yet edgy. It's been over a year and I believe they will stay on for another 2.. On another cello that I don't play a lot I have set of pir. permanents, they are on for 5 years and still sound the same to me...
this is going to sound crazy but i haven't changed mine for over 3 years ahaha i have no idea why/how they're still functional
my celllo has strings by a brand that went out of business 40 years ago! its definitely been on the instrument for over a decade but i think they sound fine. it all depends on what sound you like, but i think changing strings every few years is fine for most
Spirocore strings ARE NOT stable - no matter what the label says. I live in the Midwest and we go from cold and dry in the winter to hot and muggy in the summer. Certain climate changes and practice halls affect tuning and intonation problems. I played in an opera where I didn't have time to tune, cold that evening and my C string went false a couple of times. It was embarrassing. I even noticed that the other day practicing Mendelssohn and even Popper etudes / double stops. I hope to get a new cello soon - preferably carbon fiber.
LOL..."that was $250 for clearer". I need to buy new strings. my poor baby hasn't new strings in a few years. I should get on that.
This sounds similar to guitar strings. They too sound too metallic in the beginning. Which is why many Jazz players prefer old strings.
Your soundpost can fall while changing strings? That means it's not long enough, get a new one! It should be jammed between the front and back properly
Martin Říha it can fall because a lot of the cello relies on the tension of the strings
I know it can fall but then it means the sound post is too short for the cello, luthier jams it inside also without stings and it's pretty tight, I almost passed out when he was putting it in, the noises were just horrible. I change my bridge from time to time and I'm sure the soundpost will not move. If your soundpost falls just take the cello to a luthier and he will make a new one, it will take half an hour and it will fit so you don't need to worry everytime you change the strings...
I... havent changed my strings in 12 years... Still going strong
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