Gold Anodized vs Mint: Does this Jazzmaster Pickguard Make a Difference?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 264

  • @MilesTippett
    @MilesTippett 4 роки тому +63

    I listened with my eyes closed, and could not tell when the changes happened.... I only thought I heard a difference when I was watching the changes happen.....

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +8

      Interesting! With my eyes closed I can definitely detect slightly more treble and that metallic sound in the low end that I mention. If you have another listen, try focusing on a certain frequency range.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +9

      Oh and yeah it's SUBTLE for sure

    • @JeffSmithbureau13
      @JeffSmithbureau13 2 роки тому +3

      I'm a firm believer that people listen with their eyes. Blind A/B test is the answer, but of course it's harder to do that. Of course as I'm typing this you're strumming the open chords and of course I think I hear a difference. But I don't really believe that either, I am susceptible to the same illusions as everyone else.

    • @JeffSmithbureau13
      @JeffSmithbureau13 2 роки тому +1

      Actually you may be on to something with the shielding. If there is a real difference I'll bet that's the reason. Good catch.

    • @robbiemcpherson7277
      @robbiemcpherson7277 9 місяців тому +1

      If there's a difference, it's not surviving UA-cam's compression, even through $1500 studio monitor headphones. Also some that are clearly different are likely due to you strumming closer to the bridge when using the gold pickguard. I suspect your expectation for it to sound brighter subconsciously caused you to do things to make it sound brighter.

  • @bradylinebaugh387
    @bradylinebaugh387 4 роки тому +22

    Perfect comparison vid. I loved the slow E strums. I’ve been a fan of yours for a long time. I’m very glad you’re doing the UA-cam thing on a regular basis now

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Brady!!!!

  • @a.man_an.island
    @a.man_an.island 4 роки тому +29

    I really enjoyed the slight complexities that the gold guard added. Glad I have a J. Mascis with the gold guard!

  • @wornfrets235
    @wornfrets235 4 роки тому +2

    This was so well done, thanks! I really appreciated that you went totally dry/direct - I wish more comparison demos had that.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому

      I don't know what made me want to do that, but I'm glad I did!

  • @pierrederesistance
    @pierrederesistance 4 роки тому +51

    I can understand why there WOULD be a difference, to me there's got to be some difference in the shielding involved. However, through good headphones and with pretty good ears I couldn't hear a difference, even while watching and SEEING when it changed it sounded identical to me until the super isolated examples at the end.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +14

      Interesting! The change is super apparent to me over here.

    • @pierrederesistance
      @pierrederesistance 4 роки тому +4

      @@Puisheen it's probably much more noticeable in the room and you've probably looked after your ears better than I have mine 😂

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +3

      @@pierrederesistance Well that's probably not true at all!

    • @Aniki82
      @Aniki82 3 роки тому +1

      @@pierrederesistance I could ear a difference too to my surprise
      Didn't expect there would be any difference ahah

    • @keith.loves.lasagna
      @keith.loves.lasagna 2 роки тому

      Definitely a difference but not dramatic. The velocity of the notes is faster including the lower end punch, the midrange is hairier and louder, obviously more sustain, and slightly less air / treble.
      I wouldn't call it subtle either. Completely changes how that guitar responds

  • @AaronStrumpel
    @AaronStrumpel 4 роки тому +5

    duuuuuude i love these videos. also, oddly enough, my custom shop JM came with a gold guard AND a shield - and it's suuuuuper quiet, haha.

  • @ShuLorMakesMusic
    @ShuLorMakesMusic 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome comparison! It literally sounds like the pickguard material!

  • @lolnoscoped6230
    @lolnoscoped6230 Рік тому +3

    I closed my eyes and tried to hear when the gold pickguard came in over the mint one, and I just couldn't tell.

  • @THEItchybruddah
    @THEItchybruddah 4 роки тому +3

    As always, THANK you for your time! (And as someone who reluctantly breaks out the usb “screwdriver” I’m glad you’re doing the lifting on these random queries that float thru my noggin.) I feel like the anodized was like a prescription for astigmatism. Not too bad but helped with the “focus”. Feeling better everyday about blowing the bread with Team Woody on the Mascis. May you never forget your Chapstick Sir!

  • @aaronjones8076
    @aaronjones8076 3 роки тому +5

    I think the difference is so subtle that attack and strum position change the sound a lot more than the pickguard. listening from here, I didn't get a high end change, I could hear a difference in the lows, sometimes.

    • @christophernoia5197
      @christophernoia5197 Рік тому

      Ya, I noticed he's picking certain e chord strums in completely different spots between the two guards. I can still tell a bit of a difference between the ones whose strums are very close to the same position. The ones that are super different are exacerbated by the picking location for sure.
      I think the gold guard has a cool quality, or rather I like the sound of the demos using it more than the mint guard, but I don't like the aesthetic of the gold pick guard. Give me a beautifully complex and vintage looking red tinted Tortoise shell guard any day! Hopefully one day I can afford to splurge on a spitfire pickguard for my Jazzmaster.

  • @richardhenrickson6711
    @richardhenrickson6711 11 місяців тому +1

    To me, gold guard definitely brighter and perhaps a bit grittier. I actually love the sound. Very glad I'm going to utilize a '58-correct gold anodized guard on my new-build. Also, '58 Novaks. Sooooo excited!

  • @TheTrollMastah
    @TheTrollMastah 3 роки тому +5

    I notice a difference on my Strat, the gold guard on it gives it some beautiful reverb-like quality with quick up-strokes or “Chiks” like in Motown and soul

  • @jnewton000
    @jnewton000 4 роки тому +3

    I tried it. It's much quieter and a little more "zingy" in the high end. I really like it.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      Heck yeah, Josh!

  • @MidtownSkyport
    @MidtownSkyport 4 роки тому +15

    Wasn't expecting much of a difference but even with my eyes closed there was a subtle change to the brightness

    • @Kaiceratops27
      @Kaiceratops27 4 роки тому +1

      same. i closed my eyes the first go round and thought it was just a tiny tiny bit more bright

  • @Bigsbeee
    @Bigsbeee 2 роки тому +1

    I’m currently in possession of s couple of CS -JM
    One is a 59 Journeyman
    This has Tele style control knob’s and faded gold aluminium pguard.
    The other a 62 Relic with mint plastic guard.
    Another curve ball is the 59 is rocking the RSD bridge the 62 a Mastery.
    Acoustically they are worlds apart - the RSD rings like an acoustic guitar.
    Amp up and I hear similar to what a hear here - extra zing n ping from Ally guard.
    I can’t pick a favourite out of mine.
    Here in your vid I prefer the mint guard JM
    It also looks soo cool .
    Both mine are Sonic blue too the Relic having blue headstock like yours.
    I LOVE the Jazzmaster

  • @Tonetwisters
    @Tonetwisters 3 місяці тому

    LOVE the color of that Jazzmaster!

  • @georgesid5632
    @georgesid5632 4 роки тому +2

    The gold pickguard was definitely slightly brighter and cut through more! I watched the video over and over and I am convinced of it.

  • @ranman58635
    @ranman58635 6 місяців тому

    I can confirm the twang and quiet. I went a bit further on a squier mini. I did a thin layer of copper leaf on the pickguard and then I put sheilded tape on the outside of the pickup covers. That made a real feriday cage. It was so twangy and crisp. That and a vintage capacitor 001 does it so nice. Squier becomes a fender now. Lol

  • @joegordon2915
    @joegordon2915 Рік тому

    I didn’t think it would matter but there was a distinct difference and I liked the gold much better.

  • @ianhakim3072
    @ianhakim3072 4 роки тому +3

    the gold guard definitely adds a bit of brightness

  • @garyptaszek
    @garyptaszek 4 роки тому +2

    Great video! I honestly can’t decide which I prefer, both look and sound great in their own way. I personally like the look of gold guards with black covers tho...

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому

      Oh I hear that! It's the old prototype/catalogue look. It's bad ass

  • @Great-Documentaries
    @Great-Documentaries 2 роки тому +2

    You heard a difference because you expected to and because you heard an acoustical difference that cannot be picked up by those properly-made (non-microphonic) pickups. Bottom line: The pickguard is down to taste, not tone. The wind speed and relative humidity have as much of an effect.

    • @Great-Documentaries
      @Great-Documentaries 2 роки тому +2

      Oh, and for the benefit of all of your devoted followers who think they can hear a difference, you should record a video comparing tort vs mint. It too will get 20K views, and isn't that the only reason you really do these?

  • @gitsloth1
    @gitsloth1 4 роки тому +2

    The brightness of the ano guard was the most apparent to me when the Helix wasn't on - of course I watched it first thing this morning while still half asleep in bed so maybe I didn't have been listening ears on yet!

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому

      Oh totally, I think the amplification makes it even more subtle. I was actually shocked by the dry comparison and how bold the difference was

  • @DrKevGuitar
    @DrKevGuitar 4 роки тому +3

    I’ve gotta tell ya, I first listened blind, so I couldn’t see which guitar you were playing. I could correctly identify when the pick guard was different, which suggests I could hear it well. I thought the gold pickguard to have less high highs and pushed upper mods. Course I was surprised that there was an audible difference at all. But thank you for doing this video, it was really instructive and I really really want a gold anodized pickguard now!

  • @JimmiesGPlace
    @JimmiesGPlace 23 дні тому

    I took my gold pickguard off my 40th anniversary Squier Jazzmaster and put a white pearl on it and I'm keeping it that way. Looks so much better without that gold thing.

  • @jerrysoetewey7002
    @jerrysoetewey7002 3 роки тому +1

    I currently have a gold guard on a Ash jazzmaster with creamery Alnico 2 jazzmaster pick ups and yes, it does add that little bit of top end zing to the overall sound. This video perfectly explains and shows this difference. And you are absolutely right that the bodywood of the guitar also has it's influence with a goldguard. I feel that ash tends to be a bit brighter then alder so the gold guard accentuates this as well.
    I previously had the same gold guard on an Alder body Jazzmaster (with the same pu config) and it sounded just a tad less bright.
    After playing the Ash jazzmaster with the gold guard for a while now, I think I'm also gonna go back to a vinyl/plastic pickguard. Anyway thanks for taking the time to make this video! I've been watching your other stuff as well and being an offset guitar player for almost 20 years now, I'm still learning new things about these guitars thanks to guys like you! Oh and you should defenitly talk about old vs. new jazzmaster and Jaguar neck pocket depths and how these influence the setup of the guitar, string angle behind the bridge, etc... A bit nerdy, I know, but I guess that's what being an offsetguitargeek is all about :-)

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  3 роки тому

      Ahhhh I love Ash bodied Jazzmasters, congrats on a cool guitar! And I've mentioned the pockets quite a few times!

  • @PaleGreenHouse
    @PaleGreenHouse 2 роки тому +3

    Maybe this might be placebo but, in a Fender interview, Kevin Shields said that he feels that the anodised pickguard makes the sound "zingier." I feel like I know what he's talking about. For me, at least, the anodised pickguard made the sound a bit punchier and increased the higher frequencies. In contrary, the mint guard dulled the sound a bit. Again, it might all be placebo and it is barely noticeable. But that's what I hear :)

  • @sharonlee4773
    @sharonlee4773 27 днів тому +1

    Splitting hairs in terms of sound,not worth mentioning but the RF reduction is a lot more important. Unfortunately i hate the anodized look so i have a mint green plate over my ali guard!

  • @MinistryOfStrings
    @MinistryOfStrings 9 місяців тому

    I agree. Its very subtle but the aluminum definitely adds a twangy metallic tone.

  • @jayreimer6851
    @jayreimer6851 4 роки тому +4

    Use that guard to build the most '58 Jazzmaster you can :)

  • @gretchman
    @gretchman 4 роки тому +4

    PIckguards schmickguards, that riff was ::string of fire emojis::

  • @alexk3088
    @alexk3088 3 роки тому +3

    Yep, I also heard "metallic" even before you described it. But I can't say that I miss it on the plastic guard :) I'd say it sounds like changing pot values, roughly speaking. Going in I was worried I'd end up having to buy a metal guard but now I don't. Thank you. (but I might shield mine fully with copper foil. normally I only add foil directly around pickup routs and over cables, but maybe it's wise to cover the hole area).

  • @elmud
    @elmud 2 роки тому +1

    To my experience, with a Strat, yes absolutely. It affects the magnetic field and tames the high frequencies.

  • @malcolmhardwick4258
    @malcolmhardwick4258 4 роки тому +2

    I think the alu guard give the tone a gnarly edge to it.

  • @Benjaminstrumentals
    @Benjaminstrumentals Рік тому +1

    I think the gold guard gives the guitar a bigger sound, myself. A little more resonant. Almost boomy. Super cool.

  • @waylon6395
    @waylon6395 Рік тому

    this demo really helped me realize that i do not like jazzmasters completely clean/dry

  • @sharonlee4773
    @sharonlee4773 3 роки тому +2

    definately a tad more bite with my ali guard than my old plastic guard!

  • @glenneyre
    @glenneyre 4 роки тому +2

    All ive learned from this video is now i need a 59 purple pickguard JM. Gold guards are cool but i think the white guard sounded better.

  • @themixmusicandmore6280
    @themixmusicandmore6280 3 роки тому

    Very subtle sizzle on the high end with the aluminum guard

  • @studiodsr
    @studiodsr 8 місяців тому

    Wow. The with the anodized pickguard the tone is noticeably brighter and scratchier. I prefer it. Crazy that a pickguard can affect the tone like that
    On the bridge pickup the anodized took it perhaps a bit too bright but on the middle and neck settings the extra brightness was 👌

  • @jazzblasterrr
    @jazzblasterrr 4 роки тому +11

    Sounds like some light distortion added on the high end with the anodized guard.

  • @SarahEHowson
    @SarahEHowson 4 роки тому +1

    Woooooo I finally got over to your UA-cam. Star Wars and guitars are two of the best things ever. Have a beautiful day!

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      Saraaaahhhhhh thank you!! Hope you're well!

    • @SarahEHowson
      @SarahEHowson 4 роки тому

      Puisheen I just woke up but today is going to be totally amazing and I hope your day is the same!
      PS this video helped me decide not to put an anodised guard on my duo sonic until I get the SD pickups for it. It’s already brighter than the suns on Tattooine 😬😂 I’ll see what my wiring upgrade does first before I get too carried away.

  • @AlfredLesliePalmer
    @AlfredLesliePalmer Рік тому +1

    It sounds to me like the anodized pickguard kind of shifts the focus higher in the range : more bite to the sound, and a little louder overall.
    Makes me think of the time I went from a bone nut to a Black Tusq XL on a strat. I couldn't believe the difference it made ; there was so much more treble.

  • @AT02129
    @AT02129 4 роки тому +1

    another great video mike!

  • @batautomat
    @batautomat 3 роки тому +8

    I think it’s that the upper harmonics are being accentuated. They really stuck out for me.
    It’s a hard, resonant plate and formidable shield. Of course there’s an effect. Nice experiment!

  • @pepuletrz
    @pepuletrz 2 роки тому

    awwwww.my dream guitar in all its glory...had one...got home invaded..now ..well now i have a list in my heart where this guitar once held realastate.oh and along with my jazzmaster they also guitar napped my 1967 bronco..if by chance it was you along with 4 of your bad buds..you are all on my list.

  • @tomscioscia9869
    @tomscioscia9869 Рік тому +1

    There's most certainly a tiny bit more oomph with the anodized guard. However, it doesn't surprise me if you think about the plate on a Tele bridge pickup (or heck, the bridge plate itself) or the claw on a Jaguar pickup. It definitely affects the magnetic field.
    Now if we could get tortoise bonded to an anodized aluminum guard... 🤔

    • @pharmerdavid1432
      @pharmerdavid1432 11 місяців тому

      Copper tape on back of tortoise 'guard, if it's shielding you want....?

    • @tomscioscia9869
      @tomscioscia9869 11 місяців тому

      @@pharmerdavid1432, I replaced that exact setup with an anodized guard and the anodized guard was significantly better at rejecting noise.

  • @fpsknifer9906
    @fpsknifer9906 3 роки тому +10

    It's cool to see how much the noise was reduced just by using an anodized pickguard. I always found it strange that Fender chose not to use that chrome plate for the rhythm circuit on jazzmasters like they do on the jaguars.

    • @lukasschliepkorte3019
      @lukasschliepkorte3019 3 роки тому +2

      The jag was the update and had to have a new feature ;)

    • @rebeccabailey527
      @rebeccabailey527 2 роки тому +5

      The reason the rhythm circuit doesn't have a chrome plate is because the jaguar came out 4 years after the jazzmaster. Also the jazzmaster and jag bodies aren't actually the same, so a jag's chrome plates don't fit on jazzmasters.
      The thing is, it wasn't just an aluminum pickguard. The original run of jazzmasters (58-late 70s) had brass tubs and plates in all the body cavities. They were all soldered together, and everything was grounded to them.
      But the anodizing process was awful back then, the gold wore off after a few months, and people complained to fender. In 59, they began using plastic pickguards, but underneath them, there was a thin bare aluminum shield, the same size of the pickguard. All fenders had some sort of thin aluminum shielding. 50s strats had a shield just for the pots, but by the 60s the shield was the size of the pickguard.
      Fender stopped using aluminum sheet metal shields when aluminum tape came along, and the tubs disappeared when conductive paint became available.
      But when you have an aluminum anodized pickguard, you have to scrape/sand the underside around the holes for the pots, jacks, switches and rhythm circuit bracket, so everything makes proper contact with the aluminum.
      But once it's done properly, you can actually remove the ground wire from the volume pot going to the jack, since the pickguard is grounded, everything will be grounded.

    • @jonislow
      @jonislow Рік тому

      @@rebeccabailey527 wow, that's some good info, thanks!

  • @komimakojaketu5071
    @komimakojaketu5071 3 роки тому

    Great video and great channne!. I made the same experiment many years ago with a Stratocaster. The anodized pickguard does add a certain 'zing' to the sound and makes single coils quieter. However, with bright sounding pickups I think things get out of control and can get ugly very quickly. Certain frequencies really interfere with the sounds we love. I wish you made the comparison with a good tube amp. The guitar-amp interaction makes it even more obvious.

  • @TheAmphibic
    @TheAmphibic Рік тому

    it's very similar what happens with the thin aluminium/aluminum shield that they put under the Strat ones in the 60s i have them on my Strats ...... and yes, even they make Strats lounder ;)

  • @ricklanders
    @ricklanders 3 роки тому

    Wow, this was really amazing. I heard more fullness and richness throughout the entire frequency range with the anodized guard, but especially in the low end, surprisingly. Didn't expect that at all, but maybe my highs are a little fried from too many loud gigs, lol. The difference in noise floor was truly remarkable - all those little things add up and possibly become more pronounced in certain circumstances, I would have to think (at louder volumes, for example). I was going to get a mint guard for my JM, but now definitely going with the gold. Great video, thanks!

    • @keith.loves.lasagna
      @keith.loves.lasagna 2 роки тому

      If I understand correctly, a denser & more rigid material will move sound faster, starting at the low end. Nothing more dense & rigid than metal (compared to plastic and wood).
      The loss of highs is a shielding thing, I'm assuming

  • @georgecovetskie6717
    @georgecovetskie6717 6 місяців тому

    The Gold guard made all the strings notes more defined and controlled. Just ever so slight but enough to create character. I liked it better than the original pickguard.

  • @christopherchant2329
    @christopherchant2329 3 роки тому

    Gold sounds slightly brighter to my ears. A lovely little lift 😍

  • @agathalloyd9039
    @agathalloyd9039 4 роки тому +2

    I always thought my gold guard was slightly more scooped, which I guess tallies with increased top and low response. The Lollars def don’t need help on top, but I’d love to see a follow with more vintage voiced pickups... (59er-ize Pancake, hint hint)

  • @philmagallanes3850
    @philmagallanes3850 2 роки тому +2

    The difference between the two pickguards is very noticeable, especially when listening through good headphones. Thanks for posting this!

  • @57ebartley
    @57ebartley 3 роки тому

    I've wondered about that too. One of my strats is a 57 reissue and has a thin one ply pick guard. My other two have much thicker 3 ply. There has got to be a difference in tone.
    Thanks for doing that. I heard a difference too.

  • @whssy
    @whssy 3 роки тому +3

    Would be interested to hear effect of a copper tape shielding on a pickguard vs. the alloy guard and alloy plate behind guard on noise.
    This video might have convinced me to go for an alloy scratchplate on my next build - I was wondering if the hum reduction effect is better than copper tape.
    One of my builds I used a carbon fibre scratchplate with Jaguar metal control plates - this is also superquiet with JM Pickups.

  • @wiljaq2773
    @wiljaq2773 6 місяців тому

    I think that your R2 looked soooooo much better with the gold anodized pick guard….and sounded slightly better too.😊😊

  • @SeanPierceJohnson
    @SeanPierceJohnson 4 роки тому

    I see you've been getting a lot out of that Helix...and you make it sound pretty damn good!

  • @Tonetwisters
    @Tonetwisters 3 місяці тому

    There is so much wiring in a Jazzmaster that they really need some excellent shielding from ... the world! Whether that is directly from the aluminum pickguard or a plastic guard with an aluminum shielding underneath ... I don't think it would matter much.

  • @Glicksman1
    @Glicksman1 2 роки тому +1

    I just bought a 2018, 60th Anniversary, '58 re-issue Jazzmaster. It has, of course, a gold-anodised, aluminium pickguard. What it also has is the most musical resonance I have ever heard in a solid-body electric guitar, plugged or unplugged. Upper harmonics accentuated? Well, that's where electric guitars live. I've had JMs with mint and "tortoise" pickguards, and nothing of the kind existed with them. They were fine guitars, but this JM is special in the best, most unique way. It zings.
    So why is this so? We ought to understand that Strats and JMs are actually chambered solids. There are lots of nooks and crannies which all have air in them. Accordingly, these are potentially resonant places that inform the guitar's sound. Covering these chambers with a substantial piece of aluminium instead of plastic naturally creates a special kind of resonant place, now with this aluminium fourth side, producing a special kind of sound and, voila, this JM becomes a different thing. Like you, I expected to hear the difference, and like you, I did
    Cheers, mate

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  2 роки тому

      I like how you put that: chambered solids. Thanks for watching!

  • @DJPLAYNICE
    @DJPLAYNICE Рік тому

    Liked this upload a lot. 🤘🏼

  • @KristofferPaulsen
    @KristofferPaulsen 4 роки тому

    Man. On headphones the bottom end was so much more full woah. That’s it. Putting a black one on my blue.

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 11 місяців тому

    Jason Lollar says a brass pickguard changes inductance effecting the treble output, but if I remember correctly he said it darkens the tone. Softer wood should make the sound less trebly by attenuating the highs, while heavier denser body woods tend to increase the highs making them harder/harsher. I want a gold pickguard one of these days, maybe, if for no other reason than it looks good and offers extra shielding, along with the copper tape inside.

  • @SD_Marc
    @SD_Marc 4 роки тому +13

    Well-made video. I thought the premise was just some ridiculous guitar-geek myth, but you're right, the aluminum had a little metallic brightness to it. Which I preferred to the other.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому

      Hey, thanks for giving the video a shot! I'm also leery of that same kind of video you mention, so I'm glad I defied your expectations. The mint guard went back on Artoo the very same day, haha.

    • @SD_Marc
      @SD_Marc 4 роки тому +1

      @@Puisheen haha, yeah, I saw that. I get it. I hope you're going to share your "special build" with us. Sounds interesting.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      @@SD_Marc Someday, all shall know about that one special guitar!

  • @keiranbradley3238
    @keiranbradley3238 21 день тому

    You would need to have the sonic perception of a dolphin to tell the difference between these examples!.
    It's funny watching Mike look off into the distance as if he can though! Haha.

  • @starshineraiser6729
    @starshineraiser6729 3 роки тому

    Wow, it’s much more than I thought.

  • @williamsanders
    @williamsanders 4 роки тому +1

    Noticed the same on my P-bass ('59 goldguard or '61 tortoise guard). Stuck with the tortoise guard, as the gold one had a somewhat "nasty" overtone to it I couldn't live with and couldn't EQ out.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      Ah that's super interesting that the change wasn't positive for you

    • @williamsanders
      @williamsanders 4 роки тому

      @@Puisheen It's a personal taste. I like my bass to have a really pronounced midrange and less top-end to it. I could tame that brightness of the gold guard to a large degree with the tone-knob, but that somewhat muffled my sound by eating in that midrange as well. Plus it felt pretty weird on the fingers as well (it was a lacquered guard, but a lot of the lacquer already wore off).

  • @scottnewellguitar
    @scottnewellguitar 4 роки тому +5

    Fatter sound with the anodized for sure. Niiiiiice. Thanks for doing this, gonna put one on my custom Warmoth JM!

  • @fuzzblender
    @fuzzblender Рік тому

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @davehopping7212
    @davehopping7212 5 місяців тому

    Seems as thought the aanodized p/g makes that J-master sound just a little clearer. Makes me think (again) about getting one for my '07 SB AVRI.

  • @cactus-mcjacktus
    @cactus-mcjacktus 3 роки тому

    i guess i shouldn’t be as surprised as I am that, while subtle, there is a difference. Other than an audible difference, i wonder if there was a difference in feel.

  • @TheGhostGuitars
    @TheGhostGuitars 3 роки тому

    @Puisheen Thank ye, methink ye made my mind up about an old vintage "Jazzmaster" I have. I got it a while ago as a 70$ cheapo project to do later. It's a Jazzmaster copy made in Japan in the 80's (at latest, I think).
    There is no identification marks on it other than a "Concert Quality Guitar" label in white script on black background, except for the letter "C" which is in red. There's a plain "JAPAN" stamped on the neck plate. Other than the fact it had hung in the seller's beachside open air garage for 30+ years after his uncle has died. It was purchaed new by the uncle. Thats all I know about it. If you or anyone else know anything about it, I'd appreciate hearing what ye know about it.
    It has 2 sliding on/off switches, 1 for for each pup. 1 volume and 1 tone knob. Thats it for controls. The pups are trapezoidal chrome units with black top, they have a strong similarity to those found in some Matsumoto strats from the 80s. The magnet slugs are unique _square_ pole pieces that are arched in the smooth modern stagger (vs the vintage stagger with a lower G pole).
    The guitar came with a 1-piece neck/headstock made of vertically laminated wood similar to those used on the Martin LX1 "Little Martin" which looks really cool on an electric guitar! The fretboard is rosewood.
    The body _was_ white, but the decades of exposure in Hawai'i has aged the finish to a light cream color, but there are some areas where the finish has degraded to the point of flaking off, exposing a white undercoat. Everyone who has seen it has urged me to leave the existing finish as is, one even went as far to threaten to skin me alive if I were to refinish this one!
    In the interest of retaining my skin, I'm going to only replace the hardwares. The worn tuners, incomplete saddles and broken bridge with missing whammy bar and associated mounting hardwares all will be replaced with modern relic'd Fender-spec parts.
    I'm gonna keep the original pups, even tho they're unpotted thus are quite microphonic and picks up RF like an antenna! They're cool looking and has an unique sound thats VERY different from any other guitars I have (and I have plenty...30, not counting the acoustics and ukes).
    I'm also going to retain the original vintage knobs because they're also unique and still useable. The trick is finding new _quality_ pots that are compatible with the knobs.
    But where I live, there's a lot of RFI, so shielding is absolutely essential, but due to the mikey pups, I suspected that just foiling the cavity won't be of any good vs RFI coming in from the front.
    I already knew that metal pickguards will be very effective at reducing the induced hum. I have several other old guitars with metal pickguards that also has mikey pups and once I've added copper foil to the cavities, have majorly quieted them down.
    FYI: They are a Kingston Swinga, an "Artisan" cross between a LP and an offset, and a beautifully well preserved vintage "Western Electric Guitar." The latter two are also completely unknown offsets to me, but has wierd unusual shapes. Anyway I digress.
    I've been debating whether to go ahead and duplicate the original 2-piece white/black/white pickguard in metal or not. I just wasn't sure how they'd look on the existing body. The other option is to shield the entire back of the original pickguard which is still in excellent but dirty shape.
    Thanks for providing me a glimpse of how a jazzmaster would look like with gold pickguard! I don't see many jazzmaster/jaguars here. I think I will go ahead and go metal too. But I've as yet to decide between gold or natural aluminum, or even use brass pickguard.
    I do not know anything about this "Concert Quality Guitar," but have decided to restomod it and keep it. You're one of two UA-camrs to make me decide to do so, so thank ye, Mike!
    I've just subscribed and will keep an eye on ye for more info in Jazzmaster!
    Mahalo nui loa kakou!
    (Thank ye very much)!

  • @UhuruSasa85
    @UhuruSasa85 2 місяці тому

    I can hear the difference on the high E. Definitely sounds more "tinny", not in a bad way though.

  • @lone-wolf-1
    @lone-wolf-1 Рік тому

    I was wondering how much the big bridge plate on a tele affects the tone. And considering the opinions of many, the metal plate contributes to the so recognizable typical Telly sound.
    So my thoughts were directed to the possible effect of a metal pickguard.
    Thank you for this test! Definitely there happened something to the tone. Other tests also prove that it’s not to the bad. Mostly to the better, some times just different.
    Gives me the impulse to try it out myself.
    My guess is that the metal pickguard transmits vibrations of the wood more direct and intense into the pickup casings (or just different to plastics). If the pickups vibrate themselves in relation to the vibrating string, it has to affect the tone.
    I read about a known guitarist (forgot who), who was selling his 60-ies strat after replacing the old cracked pickguard with a new one. His guitar did not sounded the same, and he didn't like it. Go figure…

  • @davidjairala69
    @davidjairala69 2 роки тому +1

    Between all the variables that might come into play when rewiring a JM pickguard (literally down to the length and gauge of wire used) and any possible inconsistencies in picking technique, I'm not sure you can chalk up the minimally audible differences to just the pickguard. Personally, I caught a couple of the transitions but by and large the two sounds matched up imo. Maybe the pickups were slightly higher up in one of the takes?
    Also, shielding absolutely affects tone. The interference frequencies that your unshielded pickups... Pick up... Will suck tone out of your signal at the corresponding frequencies.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  2 роки тому

      Oh I didn't rewire, that's the same harness and pickups and everything. Pickups did not come out or change height.

  • @self4autism333
    @self4autism333 3 роки тому

    If you have your car strereo on in the car park all the sound is there, you drive off and get the road noise, the road noise is bassy and now you cant hear the bass as it is out of phase with the road noise. You turn up the bass and volume to hear it. What noise is coming into the guitar circuit, 60 hz???? what note is that. It seems to hum. Really interesting the guitar sounded a lot loader with the new guard, like the car radio in the car park. A lot more detail and volume and clarity, even more bass which makes sense as there is some bass hum in the noise too. 60hz?????
    I love the sound of the hitmaker, and it has an aluminium pickguard, all the funky punchy tone is there. PS i love the look of raw scuffed up aluminium on guitars, with light cream pickup covers.

  • @MindFullCheeseburger
    @MindFullCheeseburger 2 роки тому

    this video made me appreciate the gold pickguard due to its history i was thinking of swapping my stock one out but i guess ill keep it i dont hear a difference but im sure it would help with shielding :U

  • @kimrosez
    @kimrosez 4 роки тому +1

    It does make a small but noticeable difference. Long time ago i bought a righthanded anodized gold guard for my lefthanded precision bass. It looked kind of 'meh' flipped (ugly finish, no countersunk screw holes) but when i put the original plastic pickguard on, thinking of returning the aluminum one, i missed some 'clang' in the bass sound, i went back to the aluminum and then the plastic to compare (i like that metal clang poking through a mix, playing with a plectrum on a precision) so i decided to keep the aluminum anodized gold one on it.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      Oh I like that a lot, and I've had a similar experience with P-Basses myself, Kim! You know, you've given me something to think about with my own Precision: I was recently doing some bass tracks and for some reason couldn't get the clang out of it that I'd envisioned, and the black plastic guard never occurred to me as a factor. Thank you! I love this stuff

    • @kimrosez
      @kimrosez 4 роки тому +1

      @@Puisheen It won't sound like an aluminum neck travis bean bass ( like on shellac records

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      @@kimrosez haha nothing sounds quite like those TB necks, but I'll be damned if I don't try to get close. Thanks for watching!

  • @mohamedparhamalawadhi9826
    @mohamedparhamalawadhi9826 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for demystifying the would of offsets. It's overwhelming on my journey to find the right model, with the right configuration, for the right price. So overwhelimg. Which Lollar pickups are on your pancake jazzmaster?

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  3 роки тому

      Pancake has Novaks, the JM-V and Fat. Love them!

  • @elmobrother
    @elmobrother 4 роки тому

    I love that first riff

  • @pwurso
    @pwurso 3 роки тому +7

    @puisheen Your strumming was noticeably stronger during the gold anodized E chord strums, especially when your hand reached the unwound strings, thus increasing the brighter sound. You can visibly see more pick resistance each time you pass a string than when you strummed with the plastic guard.
    Overall great video!

  • @Luke-yv6uo
    @Luke-yv6uo 4 роки тому +1

    Great video man. Maybe a bit brighter with the gold anodized guard but nothing too drastic. Where’d you snag your gold guard from?

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      It came off of a recent Fender Chicago Special (CS) that I worked on. That was a fantastic guitar.

  • @beckermen
    @beckermen 4 роки тому +1

    Ooh. Special build!? We can talk after the show 😉

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +1

      Remember that one mysterious sparkle '58? If I don't track it down I'm going to recreate it someday

  • @head2nostromo
    @head2nostromo 3 роки тому

    good staff man! Thx

  • @neilbeni7744
    @neilbeni7744 Рік тому +1

    I can hear the difference..
    The aluminium is more crunchy and has more sustain, IMO...

  • @joeschlicht
    @joeschlicht 2 роки тому

    This experiment lines up with exactly what my senses assumed. However, it's different from what I have actually read, at least in one article (by Lollar), where it's mentioned the gold guard is warmer... doesn't make sense to me, but I've never played a gold guard until very recently. In your experiment, the gold guard sounded "glassy." I picked up one of those Chicago Specials two days ago. With those 250K pots, I'll take the extra sparkle of the gold guard. I'm coming from vintage voiced bright Strat (that I love) and I find the Jazzmaster not as bright. I was expecting the opposite. It definitely sounds bigger, but not brighter than my Strat. Still trying to bond with it, not sure what to make of it yet. It's an adjustment.

  • @Wolf_K
    @Wolf_K 3 роки тому +2

    So, 5 months later I put a Gold guard on my AO 60s JM. I’m very impressed with the overall tone; it sounds great.
    Besides that, it looks excellent on Ocean Turquoise. (I put a 58 style 9 hole one on mine, just because.)

  • @pepuletrz
    @pepuletrz 2 роки тому

    its been 20 years and still ptsd from that nite. i still sleep with my axe close to my bed ..and my guitars just a bit further..lol

  • @steffenla4
    @steffenla4 4 роки тому

    My theory is that the anodized pickguard dampens the vibrations of the body less than the plastic one. On some instruments you can hear a difference between tightly screwing down the pickguard vs. loosening all the screws a bit. Eric Johnson is also known for removing the back plate of his strats for the same reason.
    Anodized pickguards on Strats or Tele's are not necessarily a good idea though, since the pickguard will affect the magnetic field of the pickups. This is not really an issue on Jazzmasters, as the poles are far away from the edges of the pickguard.

  • @BushidoPhoto
    @BushidoPhoto Рік тому

    You can definitely hear the difference in the bridge pickup.

  • @mattofthemountain
    @mattofthemountain 4 роки тому

    Good stuff. I think you helped me find the frequencies I DON’T like in my guitar tone 😂

  • @gorangogli4451
    @gorangogli4451 3 роки тому

    Hi....anodized pickguard definitely makes a certain change of sound....I use it on my strat and from my point of view more noticable diference is just on strat pickguard...

  • @BaritoneOneFive
    @BaritoneOneFive 4 роки тому +1

    Aluminum sounds a tiny bit brighter. If it keeps it quieter its a good deal!

  • @jorysanders9440
    @jorysanders9440 2 роки тому +1

    Ah cool! I just picked up a j mascis jazzmaster and saw in the interview for his original design where he said that the gold pickguards had a different sound, I've been wondering if there was any real weight to that. This was helpful bc I plan to have this bb set up to detune to open D and wanna use it for more distorted stuff so it seems like a perfect fit to have the gold guard :)

  • @patrickhaug7974
    @patrickhaug7974 4 роки тому

    Wow that makes a surprisingly big difference. Do know of a company that makes black anodized pickguards?

  • @jamesf2918
    @jamesf2918 4 роки тому +3

    Is there an alternative if you just can't live with gold?

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  4 роки тому +2

      You can find Anodized guards in a range of colors including black, silver, and some specialized suppliers can do other colors as well. Anotone was a good source for that stuff but I haven't worked with them personally.

  • @mcfontaine
    @mcfontaine 4 роки тому

    I absolutely could hear the difference.

  • @TheTrollMastah
    @TheTrollMastah 3 роки тому +1

    I HAVE A MASTERY BRIDGE I NEED TO FREAKIN INSTALL IT ON MY JAGUAR ALREADY!!!

  • @lenbones7940
    @lenbones7940 3 роки тому +1

    You 100% can hear a difference I wasnt looking at the screen and I heard it... btw I have R2's brother exactly the same color scheme except a jaguar... and yeah I totally bought a mint guard to replace the stock white one after seeing yours lol theres something about those colors that make me stay gold like pony boy

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  3 роки тому +1

      I always wanted the matching Jag for Artoo. Maybe someday!

    • @lenbones7940
      @lenbones7940 3 роки тому

      @@Puisheen ur channel is legit I've been an offset fiend since my 3rd guitar it was a mustang and before that the few years trying to learn on a strat and then an Ibanez RG was fun but soon as I picked that stang up to this day thats the body I consider a guitar lol