If Fisher does sell the team while still in Oakland and MLB has him sell to someone other than someone who would keep the team in Oakland, that would be the biggest bunch of BS and slap in the face to fans. In the early 90's, NL owners told Lurie that you can't sell to Naimoli. You have to sell to MacGowan. The NBA told the Maloofs you have to sell to Ranadive. In both those situations, plans for their current venues weren't even close to being completed yet they still had the teams sold to people who would keep them in the current city. There's already been tons of steps taken in Oakland before Fisher backed out. At the very least you'd have to give an owner with the competency to get it done in Oakland and the city, given all the steps that have been taken, the chance to see it through
As an A’s fan from Oakland, I am so tired of the national media narrative that “the fans don’t care.” We do care! But when John Fisher constantly slaps us in the face by trading fan favorite star players, raises tickets prices to watch a AAA team, raises concession prices, makes it seem like he is the victim this all made everyone stopped coming to the games. Look at the 2019 Wild Card game, I believe we had 59k in attendance that day although we lost. Look at the Reverse Boycott day 27k fans. Once fan favorite players like Chapman, Semien (who just won a world series), Olson and all those guys from the 19-21 year. Once they were traded a lot of fans were done with this ownership. Put a good product or genuinely try and we will show up
I remember that great 2019 team and playoff game ... great team with the 24th highest attendance in MLB for 2019 ... teams that had no chance of making the playoffs had much better attendance.
@@togoandmossThis ownership has put a sour taste in fans mouth for 20 years. Prior to this ownership group they were averaging 27k per game. That’s while playing in the worst stadium in the league across a bridge from the best.
There's not just one but multiple groups ready to buy the A's and keep them in the Bay Area. The only person who thinks it can't work there is the guy who has failed to get a stadium built for almost 20 years, John Fisher. If he sold to Joe Lacob they'd have a waterfront ballpark by 2030 and would be off revenue sharing. No idea why the other owners put up with Fisher's bare minimum effort and penny pinching antics.
it’s just bc they can use him as an example to threaten their respective cities and municipalities with relocation so they can rake in as much public money as possible from them. that’s why teams like the brewers and white sox have basically told their cities “give us money, or else we do what the A’s are doing”
My first game I ever attended was in 2002 to see my favorite ball club, the Oakland A’s. Little did I know, it ended up being game #1 of their 20 game win streak. I love the a’s, I loved the historic Oakland coliseum. As a kid I had hopes of one day seeing statues of our great athletics players from the past proudly displayed in our stadium. Hopes of actually keeping players. Hopes of the coliseum getting the love and attention it truly deserved. I remember always being hesitant to buy a’s players jerseys knowing that they would soon be getting shipped off. I still remember buying a Nick Swisher jersey and literally the next day he was traded as a “rebuilding” effort. All we got as die hard fans were false promises, a decaying stadium, and a ownership who never cared or tried. But our scrappy team would somehow manage to make it to the top with the odds stacked against them. That’s why I was such a huge fan and attended games regularly. The fans were/are passionate. I remember always feeling some type of way towards Reggie Jackson. He would always be decked out with NY gear and never A’s gear. I knew he worked for the Yankees but he could at least show love to our team that he was such a big part of. Little did I know behind the scenes, he was desperately trying to buy the a’s and restore them into a winning team and create a better atmosphere for the Oakland fans. Bud selig blocked him from doing so. I understand now, Reggie. I knew this current ownership was bad but honestly I never imagined that it was really THIS bad. It’s laughable at this point. Us a’s fans have always deserved so much more. RIP Ray Fosse. I’m sad you aren’t around anymore but I’m also glad you aren’t here to see what the ownership has done to your team.
Useless exercise, Fisher has repeatedly denied he wants to sell( reports are that the Golden State Warriors owner wants to buy the A's and keep them in the Bay Area)
Yet, Fisher stated just last week that the financing plan for the proposed Vegas stadium calls for Fisher & family to contribute $500M towards stadium construction costs and a $500M sale of an interest in the team to an investor to be identified. He won’t sell the team to anybody to keep the team in Oakland, but he will sell an interest in the team (presumably 50%) to get the Vegas stadium built.
@@dorothygale1104500m doesn’t get half of the A’s franchise. As crap a club it is, it’s still more valuable. And remember the owners now get the profit from any sale fisher would have within the first 10 years of the move.
@dorothygale1104 let's hope the GAP stock falls even flatter ..that will put a pinch on Fisher's finances ..then he'd have to do something to stay viable
I was born in the Bronx, and grew up outside of Boston. Now I live 10 minutes away from the Oakland Coliseum. As a Red Sox fan, I support Oakland fans. Fans Fest in Oakland drew tens of thousands of people. The fans are here and will go watch the A’s if Fisher gave a damn. Fans get tired of seeing their young talent getting traded right when they make the A’s competitive. Thus, the fans are here. It’s just that Fisher is terrible. I hope for Vegas to fall through, Lacon who owns the Warriors buys the team, and Howard Terminal happens.
If MLB had any sense they would facilitate the sale of the A's to Joe Lacob to keep them in Oakland and then reward Fisher with an expansion situation in Vegas to start anew. Another thing look at the fan base, here in the Bay Area we had our own Fans Fest with upwards of 20k in attendance meanwhile the A's had a Fan Fest for Big League Weekend in Vegas and they drew probably a hundred or so fans if that. Wake up MLB!!!
Bowie Kuhn would have stepped in on this owner and rang him in ..just like he did Charlie Finley as being "not in the best interests of Major League Baseball.
As an Oakland native, I'm here to tell you, the fan base here is passionate. John Fisher alienated the fans. He shot himself in the foot, and blamed us.
It reminds me of the Sacramento NBA situation. Absolutely fantastic, loyal fans but it looked for a time like they might lose their team. I'm glad it didn't happen and it'd' be great if Oakland fans either kept the A's (following a sale by Fisher) or got an expansion team right away kinda like the Browns did.
1) Oakland has a long history of hating the A's ownership going back to Charley Finley who wanted to also move the A's out of Oakland. 2) If you don't boycott your team, you don't need to "reverse boycott" them when they threaten to leave.
@@mikelfrance-l6x spoken like a true outsider who has never set foot in Oakland who knows absolutely nothing of the entire situation. I suggest you go look up Casey Pratt s interview with Oakland Mayor Sheng Thao to educate yourself, then come back and apologize for your ignorance.
Oakland was once among the top in attendance every year. The problem is twofold: ownership and the commissioner's office disdain for Oakland dating back to Bud Selig in the late 1990s. The Hass family invested in the team and the surrounding areas (East Bay, Central Valley, etc). This investment built a solid and passionate fan base. When the Hass family had to sell the team, everything crumbled. The reason for this lies firmly with MLB and the two ownership groups they have allowed to purchase the team over the years, each time with much better options available. Bud Selig advocated retracting the A's in the late '90s, stating the Bay area is a one-team market and that team SHOULD be the Giants. WHY? I don't know what dirt the Giants have on the commissioner's office, but something is below the surface. The Oakland mayor has often stated that she knows of multiple ownership groups wanting to buy and keep the team in Oakland. If Fisher sells, giving the fans of Oakland a solid ownership group with a desire to win should be baseball's goal.
@@lynntempleton9640 During Hass's ownership in the '80s and early '90s, the A's regularly drew well, including in the top five in MLB for multiple years. The team drew almost 3 million a couple times. During winning seasons (between rebuilds) throughout the 2000s until 2021, the team's average game attendance was 20-28K.
According to Baseball-Reference, the A's have exceeded the American League average attendance only once since 2003. That's 19 seasons (not including COVID, where only one time Oakland's attendance has exceeded the league average.@@EdwardMendes97
If Fisher decided to sell, would bet you more than just Joe Lacob ( NBA Warriors owner) would be interested. Bay Area has a ton of billionaires & in no time you’d see several potential ownership groups interested in buying the A’s & keeping them in Oakland. & $$$ wouldn’t be an issue to get the ballpark in Howard Terminal done as whatever ownership group would pay for it. They know the stakes & are not John Fisher.
Whew! I had no idea there was that many billionaires in Oakland as you say. Thank God I’m 99.9 certain Fisher isn’t selling to anyone in Bay Area, that would make so miserable if Fisher did sell.
What difference does it really make? The A’s are moving to Vegas where they’ll likely continue to be terrible on the field. I’ve been following pro sports for 40 plus years and one thing I’ve learned is that you can overcome almost anything EXCEPT bad ownership. You can change your players, your coaches, your front office but if you have a bad owner there’s nothing you can do unless he/she sells or dies. It’s almost like your team is being held hostage. A bad owner is a bad owner even if the bad owner has a new stadium. That’s something Raider fans in Las Vegas or finding out. Sure, once in a while, they’ll catch lightning in a bottle and have a nice year but they won’t be able to sustain it. As a long time former A’s fan, at this point if John Fisher comes with the deal, I would rather they move to Vegas. I don’t want them in Oakland with John Fisher.
It would make sense for whoever buys the team, to stay in Oakland. Especially, seeing that the Coliseum site is shovel ready, and Howard Terminal is only $80M away. Utah sounds nice, but it's not the media market that The Bay Area, and thus wayyyyyy less sponsorship and advertising money.
Research!! Golden State Warriors owner Joe Lacob reportedly has a standing offer to buy the A's. Before the A's were sold to Fisher he actually an agreement to buy the team before Bud Selig intervened. Also, A's fans aren't just in Oakland. They're in the entire Bay Area, including San Jose and Silicon Valley!
I lived in the Bay Area for about 30 years, and am an avid Giants fan. I currently live in Salt Lake City Metro, and if John Fisher sold the team to Conglomerate of business owners here, it might mean an influx of business. Of course, the minor league field (Smith’s Ballpark) on 1300 South would be torn down, since the Bees (a minor league team that is in the Angels organization) would be moving to the new ballpark being planned in South Jordan, an area known as Daybreak.
IMO, if John Fisher sells, it’s going to be to Joe Lacob I think Lacob would keep the A’s in the Bay Area, but not Oakland. I could see him getting a deal to do something by Levi’s stadium in Santa Clara or revisiting a previous plan (SJ or Fremont). Oakland isn’t the city it used to be. I think Utah and Nashville get teams, but through expansion. That works with one east and one west team. I think Orlando gets a chance at a team with either the Rays or Marlins ( I think the Rays are still somewhat likely) and further relocation opportunities goes to San Antonio or Austin with the Marlins
Florida isn't s good comparison to Oakland bc folks in Florida don't care about baseball. The low attendance in Oakland is a quite quitting kinda thing. Oakland has a rich history of World Series championships, legendary players. Ricky Henderson, Curt Flood, Dave Stewart, James Morgan to name a few. The majority of people have been boycott the A's for 10+ years bc of the decrepit stadium and ownership's mismanagement of good teams, small payroll to sign anyone of worth. Their budget is $100mil less than the average payroll in 2024. The ownership has squandered their responsibility. Get them out ASAP and sell the team. Add on top of that the fact that the Coliseum is the only realistic option for a MAJOR league facility for the next five years combine with the market size/TV money it's obvious to keep the A's in Oakland
The South Jordan ballpark will have a lot fewer seats than the park the SLC Bees play in now. Besides, I think Montreal will have priority over Salt Lake.
Ew. No more Canada teams. Make Canada form their own pro baseball league for other Canada cities besides Toronto. Japan Korea and Taiwan would never share a baseball league together
Doesn't the new AAA park in Salt Lake only seat 8,000? I know its capacity is less than the current AAA stadium. This would be another boneheaded move by Fisher.
John Fisher has set A's baseball back decades, all done internationally! If Manfred had a pair, he would force Fisher to sell to an Oakland buyer and leave the team where they belong! The A's fan base is one of the most diehard fanbase in all of pro sports, let alone baseball. A's fans don't have a problem going to the Coliseum, it's Fisher. He's intentionally tore down the team and raising ticket prices. Imagine paying premium price to watch a double a team??? Did you see the A's fan fest? Oh yeah, the fans put it on themselves! Over 15k fans attended!
are you kidding me? Joe Lacob said he would buy the team and keep them in Oakland. Most likely build @ Howard Terminal since ALL the legwork is already done. And "lack of a fan base"? You can't be serious. Ownership manufactured the low attendance by selling all the good players, not investing in the current stadium and doubling ticket and parking prices. Looks you fell for the Fisher plan too. The difference between Miami and Oakland is the fact that anyone with money in Miami leaves in the summertime, leading to poor attendance. That applies to Vegas too. Cali people stay where they are at in the summer. No way in hell they get a lease extension...... Unless the terms the city gave are met. An expansion team, the A's trademarks & records and, a bunch of money. Thats a red line for the city.
A's in Oakland could/would pull 30k/game @ better park + new ownership. having said that, it's not 1998 anymore. Oakland & CA are now run by anti-social/anti-commerce lunatics. nobody is going to "invest" in Oakland - not now, not anymore. Oakland's best days are a distant memory & the present+future in CA looks... uncertain, at best. enterprise will go where it is welcome. both SLC & LV have PROVEN to be good investments - that's why they are growing (and california is shrinking). if i had the money to buy the A's, I would do that deal in SLC & then stay in SLC long-term. LV is an economic & public safety roller-coaster, while SLC will be adding corporate anchors & suburban families for decades to come, imo.
1.2 million people in SLC and it's suburbs, the Oakland TV contract brings the Fish 76 million a year . .SLC would be real small market and most revenue would have to come strictly from attendance. .
@@gregusjay this is about the future, not the past. 1) regional TV coverage/contracts are going extinct... see Bally. 2) Oakland is SHRINKING, SLC is growing. 3) California is anti-social & anti-commerce, the mountain time zone (SLC, LV) is safe+clean+happy.
@mpower1969 believe me, I'd like to see baseball in SLC, I was born I Wyoming so I'm familiar with Mountain time demographics, and I also worked in the A's front office in 1986/87. .most of the A's fan base isn't in Oakland itself. The Coliseum sits on the lower Oakland border and it's fan base comes in from the sub-urbs. I'll agree with you that crime is drying up both SF and Oakland, but it doesn't really affect games at the Coliseum. I've been going to football and baseball games there since 1968 and have seen ZERO serious crimes committed there. In fact Oakland PD and Alameda County Sheriff do a great job securing that place on game day. If the right owner say like a Lacob was in place , this market would thrive again.
@@gregusjay i see your point & i agree to an extent... but my point was more about crime being a symptom/example of a larger/existential problem in CA - toxic politics, erosion of (or non-existent) public services, crumbling infrastructure, anti-business/anti-commerce activism, & general betrayal of tax-payers (households&commercial) @ state+city+municipal (all) levels. An MLB franchise is a business like any other, and from a business owners' POV, I wouldn't touch California with a 100ft. pole... I'd get OUT, asap. California will continue to lose population & jobs & it's tax base at an accelerating rate - it's a structural problem that nobody in CA will confront in the current political climate... and when will that change? Certainly not anytime soon. Business will go where the growth is... and CA is collapsing, not growing.
@mpower1969 I agree with you on that..too much Iiberal policy is crushing San Francisco and Oakland plus raising the minimum wage is going to cause companies to close up or leave..yep something needs to change..
If they sold the new owner would still move them out of Oakland. They can't build a stadium in San Jose and there's no way they move to San Francisco. Most realistic is Vegas, Utah, or Portland.
A new stadium doesn't generate fan interest. A commitment to winning does. Fans show up to see a good product. Disgusting food served on very expensive plates doesn't taste any better than if served on paper plates. The stadiums generate money for the tenants, and that is why owners want them, not so that they can try to win. Not so that they can spend with the top 5 or even with the top 10. That's just a lever that owners try to pull on to sway the public and the local governments to get their free money makers. I hope Oakland residents completely abandon that team this year. Starve Fisher out, make hit as painful for ownership as possible. He basically gave you all a big middle finger.
You said nothing that A’s fans did realize ling ago. Why do tou think attendance has been so low the last few years. There is a boycott of opening day planned.
This "sell the team" thing was all internet and Bay area media BS. And I can prove it. This guy they claim wants to buy the team and keep the A's in Oakland should be jumping for joy that the A's are leaving. He should be running over to City Hall to make a deal to finish a stadium (somewhere) and put together an expansion proposal for MLB. But is he? No. Crickets.
You offer no proof in your comments, only fact-less gibberish. Manfred has already stated that expansion, if it happens, won’t occur until after his term ends in 2029. Second, it is far less expensive to buy a team vs. get an expansion franchise. That us why Vegas jumped on the opportunity to get the A’s to relocate, as notwithstanding the team sucks, Vegas is getting an MLB franchise for a $380M subsidy. Anyone trying too get an expansion franchise for Vegas would have to pay the $2B expansion fee plus the cost of building a stadium plus the cost of establishing a farm system, etc. Lady , nobody tries to get an expansion franchise unless they can’t buy a team first.
There’s a fan base in Northern California we’ve all given up on Fisher. The guy is a scumbag. Also he’s going to sell the team once he builds the stadium in LV. He’s trying to get top dollar. Currently the A’s aren’t worth anything. He’s ran the organization to the ground.
"The fans don't care" No. we are just going into this season with a payroll 17 million dollars LESS than when fisher bought the team in 2007, with MASSIVE changes happening every 4 years to players that deserve raises in arbitration. Oakland fans are smart enough to know they are being conned and they won't support a con.
Regardless, I still cannot believe MLB and others believe Las Vegas a professional baseball team and a NBA team market. Las Vegas is a "one" big 4 sports town. It will be the "Florida" factor if Las Vegas get a MLB team. MLB works in traditional markets like Boston, Chicago, Pittsburg, New York and or boring markets like Milwaukee, or even Indianapolis. Too many things to do in Florida and Las Vegas than go sit for 3 1/2 hours to watch a slow moving sport.
"slow moving sport" says the country that watches inferior padded Rugby where most of the game clock is spent by standing around in huddles doing nothing.
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa Sports betting money that every commisioners drool to get it (MLB totally foghting with NBA about the Vegas market, even MLS too but thankfully San Diego is more ready and the commissioner knows it too) And speaking of sports betting...
The A's are just keeping things close to the vest... they just announced a partnership w the Neon Museum to display a lot of the historical Las Veags hotel signs in the new stadium. its going to be really nice
Call the Utah MLB team the Jazz. Sure, the name doesn't make any sense but might as well double down on it at this point. (side note, I saw someone say a long time ago that the Lakers and Jazz should swap nicknames and 🤔)
@@gregusjay Yeah, that's what makes it kinda funny. The NBA team is obviously never going to change their name even though it fits about as well as a size 5 shoe fits Shaq, so might as well run with it.😂 It's odd that they didn't change their name when they moved.
Orlando is another disaster waiting to happen. Play in Sacramento for 3 years and build a new stadium on the old Colosseum site. Expansion of baseball is a pipe dream.
A metro area that's LOSING population and is ruled by far leftists who refuse to build stadiums? Yeah right. Nashville Charlotte Salt lake City and San Antonio/Austin are better choices
@@neneshubby Oakland can't even keep a Taco Bell open. I repeat. Oakland cannot keep a Taco Bell open. Even Port'O Prince Haiti still has a franchise location open.
All these fake A's fans crying about the A's moving to Vegas. If you supported the team like you say then buy tickets and put your ass in those seats to fill up the stadium to show you care. The A's didn't draw squat in the 70's during their World Series run. They drew during the late 80's and early 90's but after 1995 they haven't drawn squat again unless they had a playoff game. It is very hard for teams to retain or get free agents if the fans don't support the team.
you're proving your own point. . Charles Finley and John Fisher monetarily put zero dollars into the team ZILCH ! Both were profiteers who basically milked the team while not investing in it. . The Bay Area fans saw that . .Finley inherited a great Farm system.. but improving the Coliseum or promoting the team was non - existent. He and Fisher were a pain to MLB because they had a great demographic with TONS of potential but they NEVER developed it. . when the HAAS family purchased the team in 1980 the energy changed, Ownership was actively creating a great product. . Brought in new scoreboards, changed the orange seats, made it a great place to watch Baseball. .they outdrew the Giants regularly . .they involved the team in the community .. it was a different vibe than the 70s, and the Fisher era. . they even helped the Giants stay in the area when they were on their way to Tampa.. . once the fans knew Fisher was going to be a "Vegetable" as an owner...and even worse then Finley, there was no incentive to come watch a mediocre team . .Finley actually put up bed mattresses for padding when MLB told him to pad the walls...lol
right! the other MLB owners were seeing FLIP - so they enacted a Tax just in case Fisher wanted to move then sell.. it's a declining percentage based upon how long he wants to keep the team . .anything Fisher has done business-wise has been an imploded fart inside a space suit. ..
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I can't wait for them to release the A's City Disconnect jerseys.
If Fisher does sell the team while still in Oakland and MLB has him sell to someone other than someone who would keep the team in Oakland, that would be the biggest bunch of BS and slap in the face to fans. In the early 90's, NL owners told Lurie that you can't sell to Naimoli. You have to sell to MacGowan. The NBA told the Maloofs you have to sell to Ranadive. In both those situations, plans for their current venues weren't even close to being completed yet they still had the teams sold to people who would keep them in the current city. There's already been tons of steps taken in Oakland before Fisher backed out. At the very least you'd have to give an owner with the competency to get it done in Oakland and the city, given all the steps that have been taken, the chance to see it through
Hear, hear!!!
As an A’s fan from Oakland, I am so tired of the national media narrative that “the fans don’t care.” We do care! But when John Fisher constantly slaps us in the face by trading fan favorite star players, raises tickets prices to watch a AAA team, raises concession prices, makes it seem like he is the victim this all made everyone stopped coming to the games. Look at the 2019 Wild Card game, I believe we had 59k in attendance that day although we lost. Look at the Reverse Boycott day 27k fans. Once fan favorite players like Chapman, Semien (who just won a world series), Olson and all those guys from the 19-21 year. Once they were traded a lot of fans were done with this ownership. Put a good product or genuinely try and we will show up
I've been a die hard A's fan since 78. You nailed it. Amen!
I remember that great 2019 team and playoff game ... great team with the 24th highest attendance in MLB for 2019 ... teams that had no chance of making the playoffs had much better attendance.
@@togoandmossThis ownership has put a sour taste in fans mouth for 20 years. Prior to this ownership group they were averaging 27k per game. That’s while playing in the worst stadium in the league across a bridge from the best.
There's not just one but multiple groups ready to buy the A's and keep them in the Bay Area. The only person who thinks it can't work there is the guy who has failed to get a stadium built for almost 20 years, John Fisher. If he sold to Joe Lacob they'd have a waterfront ballpark by 2030 and would be off revenue sharing. No idea why the other owners put up with Fisher's bare minimum effort and penny pinching antics.
it’s just bc they can use him as an example to threaten their respective cities and municipalities with relocation so they can rake in as much public money as possible from them. that’s why teams like the brewers and white sox have basically told their cities “give us money, or else we do what the A’s are doing”
My first game I ever attended was in 2002 to see my favorite ball club, the Oakland A’s. Little did I know, it ended up being game #1 of their 20 game win streak. I love the a’s, I loved the historic Oakland coliseum. As a kid I had hopes of one day seeing statues of our great athletics players from the past proudly displayed in our stadium. Hopes of actually keeping players. Hopes of the coliseum getting the love and attention it truly deserved. I remember always being hesitant to buy a’s players jerseys knowing that they would soon be getting shipped off. I still remember buying a Nick Swisher jersey and literally the next day he was traded as a “rebuilding” effort. All we got as die hard fans were false promises, a decaying stadium, and a ownership who never cared or tried. But our scrappy team would somehow manage to make it to the top with the odds stacked against them. That’s why I was such a huge fan and attended games regularly. The fans were/are passionate. I remember always feeling some type of way towards Reggie Jackson. He would always be decked out with NY gear and never A’s gear. I knew he worked for the Yankees but he could at least show love to our team that he was such a big part of. Little did I know behind the scenes, he was desperately trying to buy the a’s and restore them into a winning team and create a better atmosphere for the Oakland fans. Bud selig blocked him from doing so. I understand now, Reggie. I knew this current ownership was bad but honestly I never imagined that it was really THIS bad. It’s laughable at this point. Us a’s fans have always deserved so much more. RIP Ray Fosse. I’m sad you aren’t around anymore but I’m also glad you aren’t here to see what the ownership has done to your team.
Yeah but the Coliseum is falling apart. Rodents...broken sewer pipes. That's not cool for a city not to cover those costs without teeth being pulled
Useless exercise, Fisher has repeatedly denied he wants to sell( reports are that the Golden State Warriors owner wants to buy the A's and keep them in the Bay Area)
Yet, Fisher stated just last week that the financing plan for the proposed Vegas stadium calls for Fisher & family to contribute $500M towards stadium construction costs and a $500M sale of an interest in the team to an investor to be identified. He won’t sell the team to anybody to keep the team in Oakland, but he will sell an interest in the team (presumably 50%) to get the Vegas stadium built.
@@dorothygale1104 Brodie Brazil and Oakland so mad right now 😂😂😂
@@sirchi8731 Is that the extent of your intellectual insight you offer. Lady, read a book and learn how to write proper sentences.
@@dorothygale1104500m doesn’t get half of the A’s franchise. As crap a club it is, it’s still more valuable. And remember the owners now get the profit from any sale fisher would have within the first 10 years of the move.
@dorothygale1104 let's hope the GAP stock falls even flatter ..that will put a pinch on Fisher's finances ..then he'd have to do something to stay viable
I was born in the Bronx, and grew up outside of Boston. Now I live 10 minutes away from the Oakland Coliseum. As a Red Sox fan, I support Oakland fans. Fans Fest in Oakland drew tens of thousands of people. The fans are here and will go watch the A’s if Fisher gave a damn. Fans get tired of seeing their young talent getting traded right when they make the A’s competitive. Thus, the fans are here. It’s just that Fisher is terrible. I hope for Vegas to fall through, Lacon who owns the Warriors buys the team, and Howard Terminal happens.
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@@smokey5100not happening
@@sirchi8731I second your thought, it ain’t happening.
@@seanmiles6991 Howard Terminal in Oakland would need a huge public funding method that city of Oakland would have to approve
The Utah group definitely has the money to buy the A's.
@@scotttild I didn't say he would. I just said that the Utah group has the money.
If MLB had any sense they would facilitate the sale of the A's to Joe Lacob to keep them in Oakland and then reward Fisher with an expansion situation in Vegas to start anew. Another thing look at the fan base, here in the Bay Area we had our own Fans Fest with upwards of 20k in attendance meanwhile the A's had a Fan Fest for Big League Weekend in Vegas and they drew probably a hundred or so fans if that. Wake up MLB!!!
Bowie Kuhn would have stepped in on this owner and rang him in ..just like he did Charlie Finley as being "not in the best interests of Major League Baseball.
As an Oakland native, I'm here to tell you, the fan base here is passionate. John Fisher alienated the fans. He shot himself in the foot, and blamed us.
So basically it's not the fans it's ownership
It reminds me of the Sacramento NBA situation. Absolutely fantastic, loyal fans but it looked for a time like they might lose their team. I'm glad it didn't happen and it'd' be great if Oakland fans either kept the A's (following a sale by Fisher) or got an expansion team right away kinda like the Browns did.
Athletics fan base not only is in Oakland or scattered throughout the Bay Area, but much of Northern California.
1) Oakland has a long history of hating the A's ownership going back to Charley Finley who wanted to also move the A's out of Oakland. 2) If you don't boycott your team, you don't need to "reverse boycott" them when they threaten to leave.
@@mikelfrance-l6x spoken like a true outsider who has never set foot in Oakland who knows absolutely nothing of the entire situation. I suggest you go look up Casey Pratt s interview with Oakland Mayor Sheng Thao to educate yourself, then come back and apologize for your ignorance.
Oakland was once among the top in attendance every year. The problem is twofold: ownership and the commissioner's office disdain for Oakland dating back to Bud Selig in the late 1990s. The Hass family invested in the team and the surrounding areas (East Bay, Central Valley, etc). This investment built a solid and passionate fan base. When the Hass family had to sell the team, everything crumbled. The reason for this lies firmly with MLB and the two ownership groups they have allowed to purchase the team over the years, each time with much better options available. Bud Selig advocated retracting the A's in the late '90s, stating the Bay area is a one-team market and that team SHOULD be the Giants. WHY? I don't know what dirt the Giants have on the commissioner's office, but something is below the surface. The Oakland mayor has often stated that she knows of multiple ownership groups wanting to buy and keep the team in Oakland. If Fisher sells, giving the fans of Oakland a solid ownership group with a desire to win should be baseball's goal.
The A's were never "among the top in attendance every year." However they have been towards the bottom in many years.
@@lynntempleton9640 During Hass's ownership in the '80s and early '90s, the A's regularly drew well, including in the top five in MLB for multiple years. The team drew almost 3 million a couple times. During winning seasons (between rebuilds) throughout the 2000s until 2021, the team's average game attendance was 20-28K.
According to Baseball-Reference, the A's have exceeded the American League average attendance only once since 2003. That's 19 seasons (not including COVID, where only one time Oakland's attendance has exceeded the league average.@@EdwardMendes97
If John Fisher wanted to own a franchise, he should have met the payroll requirements instead of being cheap and using the "moneyball" system.
he's running his soccer team intot the ground as well. ..
If Fisher decided to sell, would bet you more than just Joe Lacob ( NBA Warriors owner) would be interested. Bay Area has a ton of billionaires & in no time you’d see several potential ownership groups interested in buying the A’s & keeping them in Oakland. & $$$ wouldn’t be an issue to get the ballpark in Howard Terminal done as whatever ownership group would pay for it. They know the stakes & are not John Fisher.
@@scotttildwhat about the Coliseum property?
San Jose might fight the Giants for territorial independence again in that scenario too
Whew! I had no idea there was that many billionaires in Oakland as you say.
Thank God I’m 99.9 certain Fisher isn’t selling to anyone in Bay Area, that would make so miserable if Fisher did sell.
What difference does it really make? The A’s are moving to Vegas where they’ll likely continue to be terrible on the field. I’ve been following pro sports for 40 plus years and one thing I’ve learned is that you can overcome almost anything EXCEPT bad ownership. You can change your players, your coaches, your front office but if you have a bad owner there’s nothing you can do unless he/she sells or dies. It’s almost like your team is being held hostage. A bad owner is a bad owner even if the bad owner has a new stadium. That’s something Raider fans in Las Vegas or finding out. Sure, once in a while, they’ll catch lightning in a bottle and have a nice year but they won’t be able to sustain it. As a long time former A’s fan, at this point if John Fisher comes with the deal, I would rather they move to Vegas. I don’t want them in Oakland with John Fisher.
The As Need to stay in Oakland
Well, so far they are still there
The A's belong in Philadelphia
@@kristoferscott3677 they were more time
in Oakland and YOU GUYS GOT THE PHILLIES
It would make sense for whoever buys the team, to stay in Oakland. Especially, seeing that the Coliseum site is shovel ready, and Howard Terminal is only $80M away. Utah sounds nice, but it's not the media market that The Bay Area, and thus wayyyyyy less sponsorship and advertising money.
A's are going nowhere but Oakland. You really should invest more into this story sooner rather than later until its too late ;) ;)
Oakland NEEDS to keep the A’s in OAKLAND, and build a new stadium at the Howard Terminal, and have a MLB Expansion team in Las Vegas
Not without public money
Research!! Golden State Warriors owner Joe Lacob reportedly has a standing offer to buy the A's. Before the A's were sold to Fisher he actually an agreement to buy the team before Bud Selig intervened. Also, A's fans aren't just in Oakland. They're in the entire Bay Area, including San Jose and Silicon Valley!
And Sacramento. Yes they would love a MLB team but not at the expense of taking from Oakland. See Sacramento kings saga
This concept saddens me😢 if only we could be so blessed!?😞
It would fix everything
Fans hearts
STAY IN OAKLAND
expand to LV!
do the right this mlb
It would be the happiest day in my life if Fisher would #SellTheTeam!!
If Fisher sells, I think the A's stay in Oakland
I lived in the Bay Area for about 30 years, and am an avid Giants fan. I currently live in Salt Lake City Metro, and if John Fisher sold the team to Conglomerate of business owners here, it might mean an influx of business. Of course, the minor league field (Smith’s Ballpark) on 1300 South would be torn down, since the Bees (a minor league team that is in the Angels organization) would be moving to the new ballpark being planned in South Jordan, an area known as Daybreak.
Why didn't they do that for the Raiders and A's. Football is king not baseball
Howard terminal would be absolutely BEAUTIFUL
The Giants are already in decline since they have no competition in the bay. San Jose tech money is way more than Vegas casino money.
IMO, if John Fisher sells, it’s going to be to Joe Lacob
I think Lacob would keep the A’s in the Bay Area, but not Oakland. I could see him getting a deal to do something by Levi’s stadium in Santa Clara or revisiting a previous plan (SJ or Fremont). Oakland isn’t the city it used to be.
I think Utah and Nashville get teams, but through expansion. That works with one east and one west team.
I think Orlando gets a chance at a team with either the Rays or Marlins ( I think the Rays are still somewhat likely) and further relocation opportunities goes to San Antonio or Austin with the Marlins
Florida isn't s good comparison to Oakland bc folks in Florida don't care about baseball. The low attendance in Oakland is a quite quitting kinda thing. Oakland has a rich history of World Series championships, legendary players. Ricky Henderson, Curt Flood, Dave Stewart, James Morgan to name a few. The majority of people have been boycott the A's for 10+ years bc of the decrepit stadium and ownership's mismanagement of good teams, small payroll to sign anyone of worth. Their budget is $100mil less than the average payroll in 2024. The ownership has squandered their responsibility. Get them out ASAP and sell the team. Add on top of that the fact that the Coliseum is the only realistic option for a MAJOR league facility for the next five years combine with the market size/TV money it's obvious to keep the A's in Oakland
Fisher doesn’t want to lose the Bay Area tv money so he will find a way to stay in Bay until that clown Vegas stadium is ready
The South Jordan ballpark will have a lot fewer seats than the park the SLC Bees play in now. Besides, I think Montreal will have priority over Salt Lake.
Ew. No more Canada teams. Make Canada form their own pro baseball league for other Canada cities besides Toronto.
Japan Korea and Taiwan would never share a baseball league together
Force Fisher to sell, and MLB needs fo force the Giants and A's to make a deal allowing the A's to move to downtown San Jose
Doesn't the new AAA park in Salt Lake only seat 8,000? I know its capacity is less than the current AAA stadium. This would be another boneheaded move by Fisher.
John Fisher has set A's baseball back decades, all done internationally! If Manfred had a pair, he would force Fisher to sell to an Oakland buyer and leave the team where they belong! The A's fan base is one of the most diehard fanbase in all of pro sports, let alone baseball. A's fans don't have a problem going to the Coliseum, it's Fisher. He's intentionally tore down the team and raising ticket prices. Imagine paying premium price to watch a double a team??? Did you see the A's fan fest? Oh yeah, the fans put it on themselves! Over 15k fans attended!
are you kidding me? Joe Lacob said he would buy the team and keep them in Oakland. Most likely build @ Howard Terminal since ALL the legwork is already done.
And "lack of a fan base"? You can't be serious. Ownership manufactured the low attendance by selling all the good players, not investing in the current stadium and doubling ticket and parking prices. Looks you fell for the Fisher plan too.
The difference between Miami and Oakland is the fact that anyone with money in Miami leaves in the summertime, leading to poor attendance. That applies to Vegas too. Cali people stay where they are at in the summer.
No way in hell they get a lease extension...... Unless the terms the city gave are met. An expansion team, the A's trademarks & records and, a bunch of money. Thats a red line for the city.
Another difference between Miami and Oakland is Miami’s ballpark was built in an area that has shown to be not desirable for fans to drive to.
A's in Oakland could/would pull 30k/game @ better park + new ownership.
having said that, it's not 1998 anymore. Oakland & CA are now run by anti-social/anti-commerce lunatics. nobody is going to "invest" in Oakland - not now, not anymore. Oakland's best days are a distant memory & the present+future in CA looks... uncertain, at best.
enterprise will go where it is welcome. both SLC & LV have PROVEN to be good investments - that's why they are growing (and california is shrinking).
if i had the money to buy the A's, I would do that deal in SLC & then stay in SLC long-term. LV is an economic & public safety roller-coaster, while SLC will be adding corporate anchors & suburban families for decades to come, imo.
1.2 million people in SLC and it's suburbs, the Oakland TV contract brings the Fish 76 million a year . .SLC would be real small market and most revenue would have to come strictly from attendance. .
@@gregusjay this is about the future, not the past. 1) regional TV coverage/contracts are going extinct... see Bally. 2) Oakland is SHRINKING, SLC is growing. 3) California is anti-social & anti-commerce, the mountain time zone (SLC, LV) is safe+clean+happy.
@mpower1969 believe me, I'd like to see baseball in SLC, I was born I Wyoming so I'm familiar with Mountain time demographics, and I also worked in the A's front office in 1986/87. .most of the A's fan base isn't in Oakland itself. The Coliseum sits on the lower Oakland border and it's fan base comes in from the sub-urbs. I'll agree with you that crime is drying up both SF and Oakland, but it doesn't really affect games at the Coliseum. I've been going to football and baseball games there since 1968 and have seen ZERO serious crimes committed there. In fact Oakland PD and Alameda County Sheriff do a great job securing that place on game day. If the right owner say like a Lacob was in place , this market would thrive again.
@@gregusjay i see your point & i agree to an extent... but my point was more about crime being a symptom/example of a larger/existential problem in CA - toxic politics, erosion of (or non-existent) public services, crumbling infrastructure, anti-business/anti-commerce activism, & general betrayal of tax-payers (households&commercial) @ state+city+municipal (all) levels. An MLB franchise is a business like any other, and from a business owners' POV, I wouldn't touch California with a 100ft. pole... I'd get OUT, asap. California will continue to lose population & jobs & it's tax base at an accelerating rate - it's a structural problem that nobody in CA will confront in the current political climate... and when will that change? Certainly not anytime soon. Business will go where the growth is... and CA is collapsing, not growing.
@mpower1969 I agree with you on that..too much Iiberal policy is crushing San Francisco and Oakland plus raising the minimum wage is going to cause companies to close up or leave..yep something needs to change..
All that has happened, and it's not even been a year yet. Another way to look at it. It's speeding along when you look at it that way.
This entire A's situation is such a mess and it will be nice when everything is finally resolved so that we can move on from this.
Just F Oakland huh 🤔 9:50
Angels would ascend down from heaven
If las Vegas was going to be a front runner for expansion they wouldn’t be getting the As in the first place.
If they sold the new owner would still move them out of Oakland. They can't build a stadium in San Jose and there's no way they move to San Francisco. Most realistic is Vegas, Utah, or Portland.
The rays should relocate to Tampa instead of St Petersburg
A new stadium doesn't generate fan interest. A commitment to winning does. Fans show up to see a good product. Disgusting food served on very expensive plates doesn't taste any better than if served on paper plates. The stadiums generate money for the tenants, and that is why owners want them, not so that they can try to win. Not so that they can spend with the top 5 or even with the top 10. That's just a lever that owners try to pull on to sway the public and the local governments to get their free money makers. I hope Oakland residents completely abandon that team this year. Starve Fisher out, make hit as painful for ownership as possible. He basically gave you all a big middle finger.
You said nothing that A’s fans did realize ling ago. Why do tou think attendance has been so low the last few years. There is a boycott of opening day planned.
@@dorothygale1104 cool. Boycott the whole season though. They'll feel that.
Also my main comment was to ownership, not Oakland fans specifically.
This "sell the team" thing was all internet and Bay area media BS. And I can prove it. This guy they claim wants to buy the team and keep the A's in Oakland should be jumping for joy that the A's are leaving. He should be running over to City Hall to make a deal to finish a stadium (somewhere) and put together an expansion proposal for MLB. But is he? No. Crickets.
New team in Bay Area would need Giants approval. Makes more sense for Vegas to get an expansion.
You offer no proof in your comments, only fact-less gibberish. Manfred has already stated that expansion, if it happens, won’t occur until after his term ends in 2029. Second, it is far less expensive to buy a team vs. get an expansion franchise. That us why Vegas jumped on the opportunity to get the A’s to relocate, as notwithstanding the team sucks, Vegas is getting an MLB franchise for a $380M subsidy. Anyone trying too get an expansion franchise for Vegas would have to pay the $2B expansion fee plus the cost of building a stadium plus the cost of establishing a farm system, etc.
Lady , nobody tries to get an expansion franchise unless they can’t buy a team first.
@@dorothygale1104actually he is quite right. Look at Utah
Any potential owner going behind the back of MLB and undermining the process would immediately be blacklisted.
@@cg5968 bunch of crying A's fans
A lot of rich people in the Bay Area! They would turn A’s around for the better
A's have always had their ups and down attendance wise since their time in Oakland. Move them to Utah. Vegas isn't a good idea either.
There’s a fan base in Northern California we’ve all given up on Fisher. The guy is a scumbag.
Also he’s going to sell the team once he builds the stadium in LV. He’s trying to get top dollar. Currently the A’s aren’t worth anything. He’s ran the organization to the ground.
There is NO reason to expand baseball. The game is in trouble already.
"The fans don't care"
No. we are just going into this season with a payroll 17 million dollars LESS than when fisher bought the team in 2007, with MASSIVE changes happening every 4 years to players that deserve raises in arbitration. Oakland fans are smart enough to know they are being conned and they won't support a con.
It would depend who bought it
Why would Fisher sell. The A's will double in value once the new ballpark is built.
he can't sell in Las Vegas without being penalized by the other MLB owners. .
Saludos, john is gonna sell in las vegas
It wouldn't surprise me.
Why would he sell if the Tropicana is going to be imploded
Fisher, sell to Lacob. A's stay in Oakland. MLB, grant SLC (the least diverse city in the country) an expansion team and give Vegas an NBA team.
MLB should force Fisher to sell. He has run that team into the ground.
Regardless, I still cannot believe MLB and others believe Las Vegas a professional baseball team and a NBA team market. Las Vegas is a "one" big 4 sports town. It will be the "Florida" factor if Las Vegas get a MLB team. MLB works in traditional markets like Boston, Chicago, Pittsburg, New York and or boring markets like Milwaukee, or even Indianapolis. Too many things to do in Florida and Las Vegas than go sit for 3 1/2 hours to watch a slow moving sport.
"slow moving sport" says the country that watches inferior padded Rugby where most of the game clock is spent by standing around in huddles doing nothing.
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa My friend, I'm an American.
Las Vegas A’s 🔥🔥🔥
Relocate A’s to Salt Lake City - Rays to Nashville & expand to Las Vegas & San Antonio
The Rays are staying in Tampa Bay
Vegas is small market and doesn't need a team in every sport. Why do Americans love that gaudy sleezy city so much?
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa
Sports betting money that every commisioners drool to get it (MLB totally foghting with NBA about the Vegas market, even MLS too but thankfully San Diego is more ready and the commissioner knows it too)
And speaking of sports betting...
What if John Fisher actually *SOLD* the Oakland A's? There would be joy in Mudville.
I think The A's
should stay in Oakland
MLB shouls not allow the
Owner to abandon that city
The A's are just keeping things close to the vest... they just announced a partnership w the Neon Museum to display a lot of the historical Las Veags hotel signs in the new stadium. its going to be really nice
He will sell. I'm calling it.
" A level of botchery"... 😂 That's your John Fisher-led Oakland Athletics in a nut-shell, folks...
Call the Utah MLB team the Jazz. Sure, the name doesn't make any sense but might as well double down on it at this point.
(side note, I saw someone say a long time ago that the Lakers and Jazz should swap nicknames and 🤔)
Can't happen the NBA Jazz wouldn't allow them to have that name
@@michaelleroy9281 Yeah, you're probably right. Too bad, it would be neat synergy. I'm sure that's why it hasn't happened in so long.
the NBA Jazz brought the name with them when they moved from New Orleans, the name Jazz made sense in New Orleans, not so much in UTAH
@@gregusjay Yeah, that's what makes it kinda funny. The NBA team is obviously never going to change their name even though it fits about as well as a size 5 shoe fits Shaq, so might as well run with it.😂 It's odd that they didn't change their name when they moved.
The Miller family has the money
Orlando is another disaster waiting to happen.
Play in Sacramento for 3 years and build a new stadium on the old Colosseum site.
Expansion of baseball is a pipe dream.
#BringMLBtoSac
The fact that people like you still think the fans don’t care is so stupid. You compare it to Tampa as if that’s the same situation.
Do what the Expos did and retract the Franchise
The Expos were never retracted The owner Jeffrey Loria sold the team to MLB in 2002 and they ran the club until they moved to Washington
@@michaelleroy9281Well in this case do what they didn’t do and retract it
Montréal has money also
Why do this & get A’s fans hopes up 😞
What if Fisher actually sold the A's??? It'll never happen!!! It sucks!!!
They go move to Portland
A metro area that's LOSING population and is ruled by far leftists who refuse to build stadiums? Yeah right. Nashville Charlotte Salt lake City and San Antonio/Austin are better choices
he needs to sell
They would still leave Oakland 100%.
You don’t know that. Good grief,
The Golden State Warriors owner reportedly wants to buy the A's and keep them in the Bay Area
@@michaelbaucom4019 At least he wouldn't be able to move them from Oakland to San Francisco.
wrong
@@neneshubby Oakland can't even keep a Taco Bell open. I repeat. Oakland cannot keep a Taco Bell open.
Even Port'O Prince Haiti still has a franchise location open.
Oakland F's
All these fake A's fans crying about the A's moving to Vegas. If you supported the team like you say then buy tickets and put your ass in those seats to fill up the stadium to show you care. The A's didn't draw squat in the 70's during their World Series run. They drew during the late 80's and early 90's but after 1995 they haven't drawn squat again unless they had a playoff game. It is very hard for teams to retain or get free agents if the fans don't support the team.
you're proving your own point. . Charles Finley and John Fisher monetarily put zero dollars into the team ZILCH ! Both were profiteers who basically milked the team while not investing in it. . The Bay Area fans saw that . .Finley inherited a great Farm system.. but improving the Coliseum or promoting the team was non - existent. He and Fisher were a pain to MLB because they had a great demographic with TONS of potential but they NEVER developed it. . when the HAAS family purchased the team in 1980 the energy changed, Ownership was actively creating a great product. . Brought in new scoreboards, changed the orange seats, made it a great place to watch Baseball. .they outdrew the Giants regularly . .they involved the team in the community .. it was a different vibe than the 70s, and the Fisher era. . they even helped the Giants stay in the area when they were on their way to Tampa.. . once the fans knew Fisher was going to be a "Vegetable" as an owner...and even worse then Finley, there was no incentive to come watch a mediocre team . .Finley actually put up bed mattresses for padding when MLB told him to pad the walls...lol
Utah is expansion
Fisher looses his ass if he sells after agreeing to the Vegas move ..SLC should go after the Rays or Angels
right! the other MLB owners were seeing FLIP - so they enacted a Tax just in case Fisher wanted to move then sell.. it's a declining percentage based upon how long he wants to keep the team . .anything Fisher has done business-wise has been an imploded fart inside a space suit. ..
Rays make sense. Angels wont move from the 2nd largest TV market.
We have a group in San Antonio that could buy the A’s