I used the conveyor system to fill a silo and before compacting I noticed a very significant loss of chaff 200k liters turned into 160k after distribution
hey farmer cop, a good alternative ive found is instead of using buckets to scoop silage out, reuse the forage wagon and roll over the silage and it will pick it up and you are already loaded for delivery. This took me a long time to figure out after realizing the conveyor pickup is missing. Hope this helps everyone who comes here for it and hope u add it in video so people see it
@@plushiie_ The same as you use to pick up grass from the field, I must admit I have not tested in 25 but they worked in 22 so I don't see why they wouldn't work.
Giants is so incredibly stupid for leaving out that conveyer. The forage wagon does work but with the bunkers that are drive thru that cost 60k you can get stuck when you have a lot of silage. If I keep it around 200k liters per bunker it’s not bad. But normally I’d fill that thing up and use conveyer system. Maybe Giants will start approving more mods instead of sitting on their thumbs.
Merging field 3,4 and 5, adding in field 2 and 8 all planted as grass at +97% yield 100% fertilized , will give you about 572500 liters of grass per harvest 4 times a year. These field numbers refer to the riverbend map. On easy economic difficulty, that’s over $800k a year at a minimum when converted to silage, and overall it’s less trips per trailer load with 220cm square bales or 180cm rounds then any forage wagon.
I'd argue, that the most efficient and reasonably quicker way to make bales is using a combo of a forage wagon that allows you to choose the tip side + bale storage + Goweil Vario Master V140 (base game stationary bailer). Put the baler near the storage in a way to let bails drop right into the loading area (of the storage). This way you won't have to stop every so often to drop off the bale, and you skip the wrapping step. Also, the process of loading bales and transporting them to the trader is easier if you buy Anderson Group RBM2000 (bale transport that automatically picks bales from the ground), and simply pick up the 24 bales that you've taken out of the bale storage.
I've made almost 200 wrapped bales and sold thinking it was silage. I never new they had to sit for a while. I bet I was getting grass prices because I normally loaded them with the 24 bale trailer and sold them in less than an hour as I have the time set to real time in game while doing stuff like this.
Nice explanation. I've been using the conveyors to load silage into a semi trailer for faster transport.. I had been running the forage wagon through the bunker silo to pickup the silage... was a major pain and got stuck a few times.... I also used the dedicated Silage leveler/compactor(looks like a snow cat) and it worked much better than the tractor with the dedicated tools... Really enjoying the content.
Ive made a few hundred bales with a round baler and then wrapped them, I made 71 bales with the John Deere combo baler wrapper and I’ve made 480 square silage bales(220cm) with the big krone baler. I have yet to refill the twine or the silage additive. The point of my comment is that although the equipment is more expensive upfront for square bales, I do believe it is cheaper in the long run and faster than the round bales.
I prefer square bales just so I don't have to stop every time a bail is made. I did start with round since I was broke but I'm hoping to upgrade after a few harvests.
@@tysheep5124 to find out where to sell any product, check the finance tab. Click on the product you want to sell and it will list a few locations and their selling price.
The last square bailer (krone big pack 1290 hdp vc) has a silage additive tank option but only standard twine no wrap. My question is if you are picking up grass does it convert it to silage with the additive without needing to buy a wrapper or do you still need to wrap it to get silage?
Hi Farmer Cop, love your work! I wonder which set of combination is better for grass-silage: 1. Mower (wide cutter) -> JohnDeere Baler-wrapper -> fermentation. 2. Mower (wide cutter) -> forage wagon (additives) to pick up -> dump into Goweil stationery baler-wrapper -> fermentation. 3. Forage harvester (narrow cutter) with forage wagon (additives) -> dump into Goweil stationery baler-wrapper (additives) -> fermentation. 4. Mower (wide cutter) -> forage wagon (additives) to pick up -> dump into bunker silo -> leveling-compacting -> fermentation. Is additive in No.3 works if the grass is dumped into the wagon by forage harvester instead of picked-up by the wagon? If so, both forage wagon and the staionery baler-wrapper have additives, can it work twice? (105%*105%=110.25%) Do bunker siko worth the additional work?
It's all up to personal preference this is no right way, they'll all get you to the end. Bunker is probably expensive up front whereas if you do the other ways you need to wrap it up which costs money and will add up fast constantly buying more wraps. Me personally I think i'll just go the double method he shows where it has the bailer and wrapper combo. I have done the bunker in FS22 and hated it with a passion lol but then again last game it was so glitchy and would damage your equipment.
@FarmerCop - how do you turn on the info window lower right corner of the screen to see status of fermenting? I actually saw this window the other day, but today it doesn't show up, and I can't find the key to turn it back on.
I found it. The technical name of the box is "Info Box", there is setting for it near the top of General Settings to toggle it on or off. I flipped it on an I can now see it.
Yep, after testing a lot, this works the best for me so far. You need the biggest bunker silo and can park your truck next to it. Big upfront investment but saves so much time.
Love these guides, very informative. But is there a reason to used corn for silage? The equipment is more expensive and more work seems to be involved in growing it over grass? Does it have higher output per acre or something? Also is there a benefit to using the bale turner? Never made sense to me to have them turned up in the fields
I think I was watching his or another and the test came out to something like 24.7% increase. Which if you factor a little bit of error pretty much 25%
I got a question. I have grass that was compacted and covered and turned it into silage. Now i got grass again ready to harvest. So can i add fresh grass into bunker that has silage already or do i have to put into an empty bunker?
I am having trouble with the Goweil baler and Wrapper. They both will not refill completely. They will refill to just shy of full and take product from the pallets like normal but the fill indicator will not go to full. Do I have to wait until they are completely empty before I refill them?
It works the same way, but poops out joined bales. Best to wrap them wherever you want to store them because they will be extremely difficult to move. You are able to cut off individual bales afterwards for use of course, but it isn't a machine you want to use if you intend to sell the bales.
If silage additive gives you 5% bonus. Do you get a 10% bonus if you use a forage wagon with silage additive and the big Goweil wrapper with silage additive?
Why did the silo go from 58k to 57k? did anything spill out? I saw an even bigger decrease when using my helper via courseplay for the silo. Is that how the game is designed or is anything off here?
When i made round Silage bales it said Fermented 0%, but when i slept to next day the Fermented % was gone, is that normal?, i thought it would say Fermented 100% or something. It just said Bales 620 kg, sold them for 356 euro.
Love your stuff, but PLEASE update this guide to include stationary bailer. I tried what another said here and on my save the pickup wagon would not collect effectively in the bunkers. The wrap would not remove as I picked up and it just sat and spun there. The stationary bailer allows you to dump chaff directly into the hopper from your trailer, allowing you to make 5500 150cm bales for easy moving and sale without messing with the bunkers at all. This can save SO MANY players the agony of unloading bunkers with tiny tractor buckets.
You go from the forage trailer into the stationary bale trailer? Or do you mean you load up a trailer of bales and put them into the stationary bailer?
Can anyone help? My cows won’t produce manure at all. They have straw, i’ve placed the manure heap (extension) and they produced 132 litres of manure in the first month and no more for the rest of the year. Do they need to have TMR as well as straw or am I doing something wrong?
@chrisjones6002 it's kind of annoying with pigs but so far the best solution over come up with is to afill a trailer with the amount of food I intend to give them into my tailer that will make up the percentage I need and so when I pour it in along with the other loads it adds up kinda close. Still a major pain tho
I was using a large bunker to just store all my chaff because I had no idea what to do with it. Imagine my surprise watching this and realizing I had 35000L of chaff to compact 😂😂😂
@@valekraine I have been waiting for a mod to drop with a pickup conveyor. I thought I was doing something wrong until I booted up FS22 and looked at my silage setup.
They sadly forgot to add the belt system part / "thing" which picks stuff up from the ground into the game... makes the silage a lot less fun imo. You have to put so much more work into selling it.
Someone mentioned using a forage harvester to pick the silage up out of a bunker. Assuming it works that's probably the best way for now. I still prefer bailes, bunkers were frustrating to me in 22 so I haven't tried them in 25
I probably should have watched the video to the end. Now I have around 2 million Liter of silage in my bunker and no way of getting it out other than a tiny front loader bucket
Why cant giants include a fermenting silo in the base game. Makes zero sense absolutely zero. Do they not use them in Europe because thats ALL GIANTS KNOWS
IMPORTANT: Update 1.3 added the pickup conveyor so now you can easily get silage out of your bunker silos with conveyor belts!
could you make a quick guide for dummies :P
I used the conveyor system to fill a silo and before compacting I noticed a very significant loss of chaff 200k liters turned into 160k after distribution
Does a baler work to get silage out of the bunker?
hey farmer cop, a good alternative ive found is instead of using buckets to scoop silage out, reuse the forage wagon and roll over the silage and it will pick it up and you are already loaded for delivery. This took me a long time to figure out after realizing the conveyor pickup is missing. Hope this helps everyone who comes here for it and hope u add it in video so people see it
which harvester and header can you use to pick up silage with?
@@plushiie_ The same as you use to pick up grass from the field, I must admit I have not tested in 25 but they worked in 22 so I don't see why they wouldn't work.
@@plushiie_ forage wagon no header needed
@@valekraine oh the wagon, thanks
Giants is so incredibly stupid for leaving out that conveyer. The forage wagon does work but with the bunkers that are drive thru that cost 60k you can get stuck when you have a lot of silage. If I keep it around 200k liters per bunker it’s not bad. But normally I’d fill that thing up and use conveyer system. Maybe Giants will start approving more mods instead of sitting on their thumbs.
Merging field 3,4 and 5, adding in field 2 and 8 all planted as grass at +97% yield 100% fertilized , will give you about 572500 liters of grass per harvest 4 times a year. These field numbers refer to the riverbend map.
On easy economic difficulty, that’s over $800k a year at a minimum when converted to silage, and overall it’s less trips per trailer load with 220cm square bales or 180cm rounds then any forage wagon.
I'd argue, that the most efficient and reasonably quicker way to make bales is using a combo of a forage wagon that allows you to choose the tip side + bale storage + Goweil Vario Master V140 (base game stationary bailer). Put the baler near the storage in a way to let bails drop right into the loading area (of the storage). This way you won't have to stop every so often to drop off the bale, and you skip the wrapping step. Also, the process of loading bales and transporting them to the trader is easier if you buy Anderson Group RBM2000 (bale transport that automatically picks bales from the ground), and simply pick up the 24 bales that you've taken out of the bale storage.
I've made almost 200 wrapped bales and sold thinking it was silage. I never new they had to sit for a while. I bet I was getting grass prices because I normally loaded them with the 24 bale trailer and sold them in less than an hour as I have the time set to real time in game while doing stuff like this.
Nice explanation. I've been using the conveyors to load silage into a semi trailer for faster transport.. I had been running the forage wagon through the bunker silo to pickup the silage... was a major pain and got stuck a few times.... I also used the dedicated Silage leveler/compactor(looks like a snow cat) and it worked much better than the tractor with the dedicated tools... Really enjoying the content.
Ive made a few hundred bales with a round baler and then wrapped them, I made 71 bales with the John Deere combo baler wrapper and I’ve made 480 square silage bales(220cm) with the big krone baler. I have yet to refill the twine or the silage additive. The point of my comment is that although the equipment is more expensive upfront for square bales, I do believe it is cheaper in the long run and faster than the round bales.
I thought the additive is only for feeding animals? Does the additive increase the sell price of the silage?
@@oddiethefox5832 I know in 22 silage additive was used in forage harvesters to boost your yield slightly, it was either 5% or 2.5%.
I prefer square bales just so I don't have to stop every time a bail is made. I did start with round since I was broke but I'm hoping to upgrade after a few harvests.
I’m new to this game but where do you sell your silage bails?
@@tysheep5124 to find out where to sell any product, check the finance tab. Click on the product you want to sell and it will list a few locations and their selling price.
farmer cop working way to hard with these uploads amazing work!
Crazy amount of videos, but i appriciate it
The last square bailer (krone big pack 1290 hdp vc) has a silage additive tank option but only standard twine no wrap. My question is if you are picking up grass does it convert it to silage with the additive without needing to buy a wrapper or do you still need to wrap it to get silage?
Hi Farmer Cop, love your work! I wonder which set of combination is better for grass-silage:
1. Mower (wide cutter) -> JohnDeere Baler-wrapper -> fermentation.
2. Mower (wide cutter) -> forage wagon (additives) to pick up -> dump into Goweil stationery baler-wrapper -> fermentation.
3. Forage harvester (narrow cutter) with forage wagon (additives) -> dump into Goweil stationery baler-wrapper (additives) -> fermentation.
4. Mower (wide cutter) -> forage wagon (additives) to pick up -> dump into bunker silo -> leveling-compacting -> fermentation.
Is additive in No.3 works if the grass is dumped into the wagon by forage harvester instead of picked-up by the wagon?
If so, both forage wagon and the staionery baler-wrapper have additives, can it work twice? (105%*105%=110.25%)
Do bunker siko worth the additional work?
It's all up to personal preference this is no right way, they'll all get you to the end. Bunker is probably expensive up front whereas if you do the other ways you need to wrap it up which costs money and will add up fast constantly buying more wraps. Me personally I think i'll just go the double method he shows where it has the bailer and wrapper combo. I have done the bunker in FS22 and hated it with a passion lol but then again last game it was so glitchy and would damage your equipment.
@FarmerCop - how do you turn on the info window lower right corner of the screen to see status of fermenting? I actually saw this window the other day, but today it doesn't show up, and I can't find the key to turn it back on.
I found it. The technical name of the box is "Info Box", there is setting for it near the top of General Settings to toggle it on or off. I flipped it on an I can now see it.
great guide, covered everthing I think, thanks!
Hi, there it seems that the Ropa Maus can be used to clear out bunkers, bit expensive
Yep, after testing a lot, this works the best for me so far. You need the biggest bunker silo and can park your truck next to it.
Big upfront investment but saves so much time.
Love these guides, very informative.
But is there a reason to used corn for silage? The equipment is more expensive and more work seems to be involved in growing it over grass? Does it have higher output per acre or something?
Also is there a benefit to using the bale turner? Never made sense to me to have them turned up in the fields
Wondering the same thing
Without getting Technical, You get alot more Corn Chaff per acre which you make into silage then you would mowing grass of the same size
@@MrKain00102 oh gotcha, thanks!
Are you going to test the mac don to see if it actually increases grain and straw yield by 25%?
Already have a test video out on it :)
I think I was watching his or another and the test came out to something like 24.7% increase. Which if you factor a little bit of error pretty much 25%
I got a question. I have grass that was compacted and covered and turned it into silage. Now i got grass again ready to harvest. So can i add fresh grass into bunker that has silage already or do i have to put into an empty bunker?
is there a significant yield increase when going from grass to corn? wondering if its worth it to buy a forager to do corn instead of mowing grass/
I am having trouble with the Goweil baler and Wrapper. They both will not refill completely. They will refill to just shy of full and take product from the pallets like normal but the fill indicator will not go to full. Do I have to wait until they are completely empty before I refill them?
Have you found the best time to sell the angus/ beef cows? Profitability?
Like your video and all of your mod
Can I unwrap grass bales before they turn into silage? I accidently baled the grass I cut before turning it into hay....
What about the long bale rolls? Before I buy the machine that adds bales to a long roll, I want to make sure I know how to use it lol
It works the same way, but poops out joined bales. Best to wrap them wherever you want to store them because they will be extremely difficult to move. You are able to cut off individual bales afterwards for use of course, but it isn't a machine you want to use if you intend to sell the bales.
If silage additive gives you 5% bonus. Do you get a 10% bonus if you use a forage wagon with silage additive and the big Goweil wrapper with silage additive?
Is there a way to store grass aside from tossing it on the ground, like a silo or something? Thanks!
As of right now no, bakes are a decent way to store it right now
I remember doing this in FS-15 and having done it since for some reason
Any idea why the john deere c441r isnt wrapping my bales? They are grass?
hey farmer cop can I used the Vermeer ZR5-1200 self-propelled baler for SILAGE ? 9:23
can you also use a forage wagon to get the silage out of the bunkers?
Yes
Great video.
Why did the silo go from 58k to 57k? did anything spill out?
I saw an even bigger decrease when using my helper via courseplay for the silo. Is that how the game is designed or is anything off here?
When i made round Silage bales it said Fermented 0%, but when i slept to next day the Fermented % was gone, is that normal?, i thought it would say Fermented 100% or something. It just said Bales 620 kg, sold them for 356 euro.
Love your stuff, but PLEASE update this guide to include stationary bailer. I tried what another said here and on my save the pickup wagon would not collect effectively in the bunkers. The wrap would not remove as I picked up and it just sat and spun there. The stationary bailer allows you to dump chaff directly into the hopper from your trailer, allowing you to make 5500 150cm bales for easy moving and sale without messing with the bunkers at all. This can save SO MANY players the agony of unloading bunkers with tiny tractor buckets.
You go from the forage trailer into the stationary bale trailer? Or do you mean you load up a trailer of bales and put them into the stationary bailer?
Can anyone help? My cows won’t produce manure at all. They have straw, i’ve placed the manure heap (extension) and they produced 132 litres of manure in the first month and no more for the rest of the year. Do they need to have TMR as well as straw or am I doing something wrong?
It might be a bug, they should produce it with any food as long as they have straw.
@@chrisjones6002Interesting, I’m going to swap them for pigs later and I’ll see if that’s more successful
@@epicaza it's worth a try. On 22 I found pigs to be a hassle without a mod to make pig food. Trying to balance their food was difficult.
@chrisjones6002 it's kind of annoying with pigs but so far the best solution over come up with is to afill a trailer with the amount of food I intend to give them into my tailer that will make up the percentage I need and so when I pour it in along with the other loads it adds up kinda close.
Still a major pain tho
Did you repaint the surface of the bunker silo extension after you placed it? That bugged our manure storage for me.
Do the bales ferment inside bale storage building?
Yes, they do
I used to put dualies on my heaviest tractor
Can you also make bales of the corn waste etc?
Use the same forage trailer you used to put the grass in the bunker. Much easier.
why can you put wrap in the aquarebalers if you cant wrap it inside the baler
Been looking for hours on how to switch to square bales
In fs25 ,hard settings, the selling price of silage is 122 instead of 190-200 fs 22
how do you cut the bale wrap off?
I was using a large bunker to just store all my chaff because I had no idea what to do with it. Imagine my surprise watching this and realizing I had 35000L of chaff to compact 😂😂😂
What’s the hot key to speed up time on PC?
8 and 7 to slow it down again
Help !! La fermentation est à 100% mais pas de débâchage R 😅 beug ?
I can’t wrap any bails. I did exactly what u did idk. Pretty sure I’m bugged I’ll wait for an update.
talk about how giants failed to add in working conveyor belts
Can you add to the bunker if it already has some fermenting inside?
How u got a big space like this I can put what ever building u want
Is this money for old rope.
Actually, I use belts to unload my bunkers into a trailer.
Where did the conveyor go that sucked it up from the ground and on to the bigger belt? I can only get it on to a conveyor using a bucket.
hard to do when there isnt a pickup conveyor in fs25 right now
@@valekraine I have been waiting for a mod to drop with a pickup conveyor. I thought I was doing something wrong until I booted up FS22 and looked at my silage setup.
@@008everett read my comment on the video for a better way
Doesnt work anymore with no pickup conveyor
They sadly forgot to add the belt system part / "thing" which picks stuff up from the ground into the game... makes the silage a lot less fun imo. You have to put so much more work into selling it.
Someone mentioned using a forage harvester to pick the silage up out of a bunker. Assuming it works that's probably the best way for now. I still prefer bailes, bunkers were frustrating to me in 22 so I haven't tried them in 25
I probably should have watched the video to the end. Now I have around 2 million Liter of silage in my bunker and no way of getting it out other than a tiny front loader bucket
use a forage wagon.
@EastCoastGamingHFX the pile is higher than the forage wagon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Could try to spread it out with a tractor and then pick it up thouh
The better crop will be the one that has the less time of grow, because the energy value (kcal) of each crop doesnt exist in the game.
I turn the speed down to .25x and you turned into Farmer Drunk
yap central
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Why is there not a phone app with all the machinery, sales prices, crop prices, and All the handy information. That would be absolutely amazing
no belts !!
you can always do a second take lol
You explain way too fast, and you make it more confusing than it already is.
Why cant giants include a fermenting silo in the base game. Makes zero sense absolutely zero. Do they not use them in Europe because thats ALL GIANTS KNOWS
He needs someone else to make you a tutorial.