Magnus Von Magnissun..,.. I think that was his name. He was awesome to watch and he won it a few times. Then he passed away a few years later….so young.
Kaz had plenty of injuries, Billy was great in his prime but at that comp, he looked to be past his prime, would have been amazing to see a comp between an in prime kaz and billy. I'd still give the nod to Kaz, Kaz in his day was probably the strongest human-being on earth
Billy doesn't realize that Kaz was in his 20's at that time. When you're young, you can bounce back easily. Also, the interviewer should do his research. Lou Ferrigno was in the 1st WSM competition held in 1977. Billy Graham was in the 4th which was held in 1980. Also, I guess Billy didn't do his research, because he states that KAZ was injury free....hahahaha. Kaz had THE MOST injuries of ALL the competitors, yet kept winning in those early years.
I’ve watched those strongman competitions through the years. They still have them on late at night sometimes ….the old re-runs. They were great to watch but they were brutal on the competitors.
I have had the pleasure of meeting and having discussions with Kaz and let me tell you... he's a very intense man. Not mean or rude, in fact far from it, but very intense. The kind of guy that was born Alpha.
Many say body builders are all show.. wrong...the only way to make muscle grow is progressive overload...in other words lift heavier and heavier weights...if you see a muscular man you can be assured he is strong also
Billy Graham was tremendously strong, but he was not a natural 325lb man. Plus he was already 5 -7 years past his prime. He was a former world's arm wrestling champion. A few other pro wrestlers who may have had the strength to compete in these tournaments: Ted Arcidi Scott Norton
Even some Benny's (Speed) would do because in my experience they really perk you up but don't give you the euphoric high that Cocaine does. If he were just doing lines of Coke then there would be more obvious tell-tale signs of that. Speed is a strange drug in-that you can be SUPER tired and then do some and it's as if you had a full nights sleep. But like I said you don't necessarily feel high like when you're on blow.
@@kristoferstoll587 Speed works on your Norepinephrine which is like Mind-Adrenaline. It's stress. It will screw you up fast,think PTSD.. It takes time to manifest tho.
Billy is also talking about a guy who was 10 1/2 years younger than him. Any guy that is in fantastic shape and that ege can recover fast...and 1 hour to swap out 5 + liters of blood!!! Billy, just stick to wrestling and lifting.
Oh, please, get real. Kazmaier would take any drug and would sell any drug if it would help him win and would make him a buck. The guy was a dope-dealing walking talking pharmacy. Graham was likely absolutely correct.
Truth be told, Superstar was completely outclassed in WSM competition. Patera was built and bred for this. It came naturally. Any wrestlers that had competed to any significant degree has had experience in strength sports prior too, in most cases. I've watched Graham, Blackwell, None did well. Just that simple. JB
I'm sure Bill was doing something. They all were. This is all so silly. It's 1980. They were all on shit. Steroids, Amphetamines, Painkillers. What's the difference. No one was testing for drugs then - especially a meaningless contest like this. Probably a free for all in the locker room.
Listening to Kaz he really seems to have mastered a mind/body/task connection ahead of most,especially at that time. Someone mentioned on here his youth, a good lite meal, & a (power) nap, I think that's most likely. With the ability Kaz has to relax and channel things, being able to do that in the midst of everything he's probably capable of doing something like that. The line coke theory is obviously made by someone who's never been a serious lifter or competitor at anything physically extreme. It might work for 1event if everything went exactly right timing wise,which in a competition like this is a sucker's bet.Kaz was way ahead of his time in most aspects, I don't see him even considering something like that. Before you conclude I'm an innocent/ignorant fanboy, I tested that theory in a meet yrs ago, & it was a stupid mistake. Frankly I've been more of a "Seat of the pants " guy like Graham, than a precision calculator like Kaz.
First of all Ferrigno had competed in 77' not 80', don't know if he meant he had competed in an earlier competition or if the narrator was mistaken and Graham went a long with it. Secondly to say Capes "Pushed Him" is a joke; Kaz in 1980 had the greatest margin of victory in WSM history; he could of placed last in the tug-of-war and still won...
I remember watching some of those shows and SSBG was never really a threat to win the wsm. He did really excel in the odd event here and there which is still quite an accomplishment at that level ( I remember the silver dollar thing). And yeah, they were all on the juice. No testing back then, maybe still isn't?.
Blood doping doesn’t work? Ask how many Tour de France victories Lance Armstrong has thanks to blood doping it’s very effective in any physical competition and if we’re talking 80s it was very popular
I'd like to see Kaz do a response video to this. BTW, I've had the same injury he's talking about with the scapula. It sucks but wasn't as painful as my pec rupture.
He did, it's on UA-cam and he doesn't have anything good to say about Graham. He said Graham was weak and didn't belong in the competition in the first place. He also said he would like to box Graham and punch his face in
Kaz was likely taking half hour naps in between the events, and maybe getting IV's of saline and vitamin b12, which would have certainly boosted his endurance and overall recovery. Those things weren't illegal.. So Kaz may have had the secret that others weren't doing which put him above and beyond. If that's the case, then credit to him! That's all stuff that really wasn't even well known until NCAA or Olympic wrestlers and MMA guys started using IVs to quickly recover from brutal weight cuts. UFC did away with IV therapy after weight cuts in the hopes of deterring extreme cutting, but it did very little to curb that behavior. All it really did was send guys out to fight in a much more dehydrated and dangerous condition than they ever were before, causing even more brutal KOs and emergency health issues. A dehydrated brain is much more susceptible to being knocked out and concussed.
@@pedrohippocaus8488 Absolutely it would help, if the hotel was close enough to make it back on time, etc. I think the IV therapy could have played a role because that would instantly replenish electrolyte balance and rehydration for faster recovery between events. Not saying I know anything for certain, but it was definitely becoming a known factor back then in certain sports.
If he was blood doping there would have been injection sites that would have been apparent to everyone. He may have been on oxygen in his room which would have helped him recover quicker.
+John Stephan You are exactly right. He always did oxygen therapy between events. Not to mention he was huge on visualization tech, and what a better way to focus than to get fresh oxygen, lay done for a power nap and visualization. You don't need to hang around the events and waste power and energy. sitting in a chair is the worst thing you can do while waiting.
Actually , there were quite a few great physiques in wrestling before superstar . Maybe not bigger but better . Mr Universe 1960 or around there , Earl Maynard was tag champs during the sixties with Rocky Johnson .
Maybe they were doing differnt things to win but they all were using.Every one of them.Doesnt take away from the insane amount of work and dedication that went into it.SSBG just simply was not nearly good enough to compete with Kaz
I dont just mean physically weaker, i meant that a feature of a weaker character is to cast doubt onto the achievements of someone better. The " he went off to his room and came back refreshed" would indicate this. I am like most people, in awe of these guys strength. Suggesting that he was better because of some secret advantage is what irritated me.
I actually would not be amazed if Kaz did do things like that. He was a very clever competitor and certain Strongman rules had to be changed because of him-but none of those things were illegal or against the rules at the time, and the fact that he was smart enough to use it to his advantage while the others weren't is nothing against him.
I was in the hospital one time and they took four bags of blood out of me and put four fresh bags back in me to get me back to normal. I was diabetic and didn't know it.
Kaz was hardly injury free. You can only push the body soo hard, before it breaks. Both the Superstar and Kaz were freaks of nature that were at the top of their game in the 70's. They were definitely two of my biggest inspirations growing up in Milwaukee WI. where wrestling, football and powerlifting were very popular.
Kazmaier doing blood doping? Sorry, I doubt it. Taking steroids, yeah. He did; all of the competitors did, including Graham, who was on everything but roller skates. As for Kaz disappearing, he was probably tired and wanted to rest up for the next comp. Doing max efforts would tire anyone out, even those who are juicing. I'm not saying it didn't happen; it might have, as blood doping had been done as far back as the late 1960's. I think Graham's just sore that a younger, far better trained, and hungrier athlete cleaned house. Let it go, Billy. You lost. Drugs--the same drugs that everyone else was taking--or not, you lost. Kazmaier was simply better, and was simply one of the greatest at strongman events. You weren't.
In an interview, on you tube, Kaz states that he went to his hotel room and received an injection of Saline from a nurse and it was legal. I have some doubts because if there was a nurse present, and she was giving legal injections of anything, all of the competitors would have done the same thing. Who paid for the nurse services, I doubt she worked for free. Did Kaz have his own private nurse? He didn’t say why the nurse was there. If that's allowed by the WSM, why didn’t all the athletes have their own private doctors or nurses on site? I am not accusing Kaz of lying; however, his story seems incomplete.
If Bill Kazmaier was gone from the field - back to his hotel room - for only one hour at a time, I would find it hard to believe that he'd have enough time to be swapping out his tired blood for new blood. I think Graham's contention fails due to a lack of time.
In an interview, on you tube, Kaz states that he went to his hotel room and received an injection of Saline from a nurse and it was legal. I have some doubts because if there was a nurse present, and she was giving legal injections of anything, all of the competitors would have done the same thing. Who paid for the nurse services, I doubt she worked for free. Did Kaz have his own private nurse? He didn’t say why the nurse was there. If that's allowed by the WSM, why didn’t all the athletes have their own private doctors or nurses on site? I am not accusing Kaz of lying; however, his story seems incomplete.
They were all on steroids but , blood dopeing I’m don’t think so , it was impressive to see billy in that event well past his prime, 400lbs refrigerator on his back , surprised me how well he did
Bill took steroids but blood doping i don't think he did. i think he went back to his hotel to just rest. i know for me being outside and doing something really taxing on the body can were you out. taking 30 minnits to an hour resting indoors can work great for recuperation physically and mentally. it's a shame Billy Graham didn't compete in his prime, i'm sure he would have done better. after having to drop the belt to Bob 'howdy doody' he lost it a bit mentally and started abusing drugs. so during the wsm he wasn't up to par to compete as he could have when he trained with Arnold.
In an interview, on you tube, Kaz states that he went to his hotel room and received an injection of Saline from a nurse and it was legal. I have some doubts because if there was a nurse present, and she was giving legal injections of anything, all of the competitors would have done the same thing. Who paid for the nurse services, I doubt she worked for free. Did Kaz have his own private nurse? He didn’t say why the nurse was there. If that's allowed by the WSM, why didn’t all the athletes have their own private doctors or nurses on site? I am not accusing Kaz of lying; however, his story seems incomplete.
Well how long 1hr think he has to walk to his room so take that away from the hr how far away was his room and thinks guys what's the first thing you do when you get home or to your room use the bathroom maybe not everybody now they must hook him up and do this how long is to hook him up and do whatever needs to be done to blood dope now so far he has walked to his room right how long say 15 mins and that's walking fast and remember he had already did events so he is tired then now he is in his room does anybody know how long blood doping takes so say they have 30 mins left is it enough to get him doped and back out so he isn't late and he is Kaz so he must be there in time or they would notice him if he was late to me Kaz is the greatest and the others are looking for reasons why he is that much better they banned him 4 yrs because he was winning to much and he was American I say he wouldn't have time to blood dope in 1hr less then that do to going to his room 30mins top not enough but what do others think do the math the walk to the room remember walk back also I say no he might have done some stuff power lifters smell before they lift.
***** You really don't see a difference between taking something that's no longer allowed and taking something that was already banned? Bonds is a cheat should absolutely never be inducted in to the baseball HOF.
+TRE4RERE McGwire opened his mouth.He made the decision yet he beat the tests (what does that tell you? It probably tells you to keep your mouth shut and Bonds was smart. Bonds transformation was utterly ridiculous and it is obvious but again, pros are stupid not to use (why give up all that extra money and fame-I have not heard about the baseball body count like there is in football, pro wrestling and boxing where suicide is a huge cause of death due to head trauma, but the media blames steroids. Look at Seau and Benoit for example. A number of former pro boxers also committed suicide, after living with dementia and depression (Seau and Benoit actually became psychotic) Guys beat tests in the old days any number of ways using masking agents, getting a bladder urine change (dehydrating and then injecting clean piss directly into the bladder before a test), or get tipped off about tests and take orals and water based injectables exclusively during anytime where they may be tested and they get tipped off and clean up for a few weeks. Some tests were administered at "random" meaning only the nobodies got tested and of course caught because the sponsors did not want their best money makers' names being tarnished> Are they clean? Did all the benefits of the steroids disappear.
***** That was the biggest crybaby you've ever seen? Perhaps you have a problem with exaggerating. What did he say that you thought made him "...biggest crybaby..."? Was it really that bad?
Superstar Billy Graham the legend.
I don't follow wrestling at all, but this guy is always such a great interview: interesting, honest, and makes sense.
I really like this guy! He feels genuine.
Just a pure honest gent of a guy, Keeping it real Superstar 💪👍
Kaz and Geoff Capes are two of the strongest men to walk this planet. Geoff's iron bar bend in the Strongman Competition did not look human.
Magnus Von Magnissun..,.. I think that was his name. He was awesome to watch and he won it a few times. Then he passed away a few years later….so young.
Your talking about Jon Pal Sigmarsson
Kaz had plenty of injuries, Billy was great in his prime but at that comp, he looked to be past his prime, would have been amazing to see a comp between an in prime kaz and billy. I'd still give the nod to Kaz, Kaz in his day was probably the strongest human-being on earth
He got really heavy in 80. Would love to watch that strongman competition.
Those pictures at the end of a young Graham are the first time i ever saw those.. Fascinating stuff
Billy doesn't realize that Kaz was in his 20's at that time. When you're young, you can bounce back easily. Also, the interviewer should do his research. Lou Ferrigno was in the 1st WSM competition held in 1977. Billy Graham was in the 4th which was held in 1980. Also, I guess Billy didn't do his research, because he states that KAZ was injury free....hahahaha. Kaz had THE MOST injuries of ALL the competitors, yet kept winning in those early years.
@619 OG They get discredited at least...
@619 OG No doubt. It's a fallen world.
kaz was one of the greatest ever.
No he wasn't
@@coops9871 definitely was
Kaz was not injury free!! Actually, we will never know how strong he really was because of all his injuries.
Yeah. The pec tear ruined his career.
True, but Kaz didnt tear his pec till the middle of the 81' contest he was fresh in 79/80
I’ve watched those strongman competitions through the years. They still have them on late at night sometimes ….the old re-runs. They were great to watch but they were brutal on the competitors.
I have had the pleasure of meeting and having discussions with Kaz and let me tell you... he's a very intense man. Not mean or rude, in fact far from it, but very intense. The kind of guy that was born Alpha.
Many say body builders are all show.. wrong...the only way to make muscle grow is progressive overload...in other words lift heavier and heavier weights...if you see a muscular man you can be assured he is strong also
Billy Graham was tremendously strong, but he was not a natural 325lb man. Plus he was already 5 -7 years past his prime.
He was a former world's arm wrestling champion.
A few other pro wrestlers who may have had the strength to compete in these tournaments:
Ted Arcidi
Scott Norton
A lot of those dudes weren't natural.
Ken Patera also competed in strong man competitions.
None of them should be allowed to disappear!
Maybe Kaz had the shits. I always feel like a new man after a good dump
hahaha good one
dkg46342
TRUE
I could NEVER squat before a good dump.
Lol
Brilliant
Yeah, when i deadlifted at the gym between sets i´d dissapear to the toilet to empty my bowels... otherwise woohoohoo i don´t want to even go their.
Ferrigno didn't compete @ the '80 WSM. He did '77 only. He was 4th. Impressive, as 1st & 3rd were SuperHeavyweight weightlifting champions.
You sure Kaz wasn't doing a few lines ?
my thoughts exactly
Lol 👍
Even some Benny's (Speed) would do because in my experience they really perk you up but don't give you the euphoric high that Cocaine does. If he were just doing lines of Coke then there would be more obvious tell-tale signs of that. Speed is a strange drug in-that you can be SUPER tired and then do some and it's as if you had a full nights sleep. But like I said you don't necessarily feel high like when you're on blow.
@@kristoferstoll587 maybe he took a couple of percocets washed down with a coke.
@@kristoferstoll587 Speed works on your Norepinephrine which is like Mind-Adrenaline. It's stress. It will screw you up fast,think PTSD.. It takes time to manifest tho.
Billy is also talking about a guy who was 10 1/2 years younger than him. Any guy that is in fantastic shape and that ege can recover fast...and 1 hour to swap out 5 + liters of blood!!! Billy, just stick to wrestling and lifting.
Oh, please, get real. Kazmaier would take any drug and would sell any drug if it would help him win and would make him a buck. The guy was a dope-dealing walking talking pharmacy. Graham was likely absolutely correct.
This is all so silly. It's 1980. They were all on shit. Steroids, Amphetamines, Painkillers. What's the difference.
Nothing can replace sleep not even blood doping.
Peter Csigo bollocks
Truth be told, Superstar was completely outclassed in WSM competition. Patera was built and bred for this. It came naturally. Any wrestlers that had competed to any significant degree has had experience in strength sports prior too, in most cases. I've watched Graham, Blackwell, None did well. Just that simple. JB
Nice shout for Geoff capes by superstar :)
The 800lb-1000lb silver coin "deadlift" was 1/2" below knee,far from sanctioned deadlift height.
Yes, but shaky as hell.
Okay. You do it then.
Splitting hairs . It was 80 s entertainment.
@@demetriuscooksey7147 naive gullible impressionable dumb kids
Those early pics are reminiscent of Larry Scott pretty cool video thanks guys
Graham making a hell of a lot of presumptions.
Graham presumed right.
I'm sure Bill was doing something. They all were. This is all so silly. It's 1980. They were all on shit. Steroids, Amphetamines, Painkillers. What's the difference. No one was testing for drugs then - especially a meaningless contest like this. Probably a free for all in the locker room.
Kaz probably shot up some coke in his cocktail mix.
Listening to Kaz he really seems to have mastered a mind/body/task connection ahead of most,especially at that time. Someone mentioned on here his youth, a good lite meal, & a (power) nap, I think that's most likely. With the ability Kaz has to relax and channel things, being able to do that in the midst of everything he's probably capable of doing something like that. The line coke theory is obviously made by someone who's never been a serious lifter or competitor at anything physically extreme. It might work for 1event if everything went exactly right timing wise,which in a competition like this is a sucker's bet.Kaz was way ahead of his time in most aspects, I don't see him even considering something like that. Before you conclude I'm an innocent/ignorant fanboy, I tested that theory in a meet yrs ago, & it was a stupid mistake. Frankly I've been more of a "Seat of the pants " guy like Graham, than a precision calculator like Kaz.
Kaz took this VERY badly, and, sadly, badmouthed Billy Graham in a few interviews after this.
First of all Ferrigno had competed in 77' not 80', don't know if he meant he had competed in an earlier competition or if the narrator was mistaken and Graham went a long with it. Secondly to say Capes "Pushed Him" is a joke; Kaz in 1980 had the greatest margin of victory in WSM history; he could of placed last in the tug-of-war and still won...
yeah lol he beat capes by 30+ points lmao
@@neal520 30+ pints of blood more like.
I remember watching some of those shows and SSBG was never really a threat to win the wsm. He did really excel in the odd event here and there which is still quite an accomplishment at that level ( I remember the silver dollar thing). And yeah, they were all on the juice. No testing back then, maybe still isn't?.
look at the guys of today and back then there is no way there testing them for steroids and HGH and all that even today
You'd have to think so when you look at that Polish guy who won it about 5 years in a row.
They don't test. I think there may be a few strong man things where they do though.
Kaz was going back to his trailer to " enhance" himself
Blood doping doesn’t work? Ask how many Tour de France victories Lance Armstrong has thanks to blood doping it’s very effective in any physical competition and if we’re talking 80s it was very popular
He beat other guys who were doped too. 🤷🏼♂️
😢 awesome man!
First time I’ve heard of blood doping.
- FIRST TIME?! Cyclists had been doing doping for many decades, and many Olympic athletes of almost every sport were caught doping too.
Wow
Kaz was the goat of strongman think he was banned from the comp for 4 years because he was winning to easy so kaz would have won maybe 4 more
Superstar actually won the bar bending contest if I remember right.
Bar tending ??
I'd like to see Kaz do a response video to this.
BTW, I've had the same injury he's talking about with the scapula. It sucks but wasn't as painful as my pec rupture.
He did, it's on UA-cam and he doesn't have anything good to say about Graham. He said Graham was weak and didn't belong in the competition in the first place.
He also said he would like to box Graham and punch his face in
yes ..when you reach a certain age a push yourself to limits injuries will happen ...
Kaz was likely taking half hour naps in between the events, and maybe getting IV's of saline and vitamin b12, which would have certainly boosted his endurance and overall recovery. Those things weren't illegal.. So Kaz may have had the secret that others weren't doing which put him above and beyond. If that's the case, then credit to him! That's all stuff that really wasn't even well known until NCAA or Olympic wrestlers and MMA guys started using IVs to quickly recover from brutal weight cuts. UFC did away with IV therapy after weight cuts in the hopes of deterring extreme cutting, but it did very little to curb that behavior. All it really did was send guys out to fight in a much more dehydrated and dangerous condition than they ever were before, causing even more brutal KOs and emergency health issues. A dehydrated brain is much more susceptible to being knocked out and concussed.
Heck,just going back into the hotel and cooling off till the next event would help.
@@pedrohippocaus8488 Absolutely it would help, if the hotel was close enough to make it back on time, etc. I think the IV therapy could have played a role because that would instantly replenish electrolyte balance and rehydration for faster recovery between events. Not saying I know anything for certain, but it was definitely becoming a known factor back then in certain sports.
kaz was hitting the skull smash lol
If he was blood doping there would have been injection sites that would have been apparent to everyone. He may have been on oxygen in his room which would have helped him recover quicker.
+John Stephan You are exactly right. He always did oxygen therapy between events. Not to mention he was huge on visualization tech, and what a better way to focus than to get fresh oxygen, lay done for a power nap and visualization. You don't need to hang around the events and waste power and energy. sitting in a chair is the worst thing you can do while waiting.
Dudley, how delusional are you? What color is the sky in your world?
@@TontoEpstein ?
Actually , there were quite a few great physiques in wrestling before superstar . Maybe not bigger but better . Mr Universe 1960 or around there , Earl Maynard was tag champs during the sixties with Rocky Johnson .
Rocky Johnson & Son, God's gift to pharmacists everywhere.
They probably knew how to use leverage and momentum to avoid injury from stiff lifting.
Maybe they were doing differnt things to win but they all were using.Every one of them.Doesnt take away from the insane amount of work and dedication that went into it.SSBG just simply was not nearly good enough to compete with Kaz
crazy JAM SESSION STUFF Katz was 💯 % doping and that is not a well kept secret. Marius pudzinofski was a beast compared to kaz
so what differnt eras.Ronnie coleman was a beast compared to Larry Scott
Kaz didn't rip his bicep while arm wrestling though!
So Billy, if you have no proof then why are you talking about it in a UA-cam video? And for the record, Lou Ferrigno competed in 1977, not 1980!
1977 superstar billy graham interview
it's rare to be BOTH ironic and unusual ...
It is in the nature of the weaker man to bring into dispute the integrity of the stronger man.
I dont think so, I am frequently the weaker Man and I admire the stronger Men! Some people always have an excuse regardless the situation.
I dont just mean physically weaker, i meant that a feature of a weaker character is to cast doubt onto the achievements of someone better. The " he went off to his room and came back refreshed" would indicate this. I am like most people, in awe of these guys strength. Suggesting that he was better because of some secret advantage is what irritated me.
Eddie Quinn Ok, I took your comment to literally. I get and agree with your sentiment, not that you were looking for my approval! LOL.
Eddie Quinn
Agreed!
I actually would not be amazed if Kaz did do things like that. He was a very clever competitor and certain Strongman rules had to be changed because of him-but none of those things were illegal or against the rules at the time, and the fact that he was smart enough to use it to his advantage while the others weren't is nothing against him.
maybe he took an ice bath, IV fluids, baking soda drinks, I dunno something
I was in the hospital one time and they took four bags of blood out of me and put four fresh bags back in me to get me back to normal. I was diabetic and didn't know it.
Kaz was hardly injury free. You can only push the body soo hard, before it breaks. Both the Superstar and Kaz were freaks of nature that were at the top of their game in the 70's. They were definitely two of my biggest inspirations growing up in Milwaukee WI. where wrestling, football and powerlifting were very popular.
Kazmaier doing blood doping? Sorry, I doubt it. Taking steroids, yeah. He did; all of the competitors did, including Graham, who was on everything but roller skates. As for Kaz disappearing, he was probably tired and wanted to rest up for the next comp. Doing max efforts would tire anyone out, even those who are juicing. I'm not saying it didn't happen; it might have, as blood doping had been done as far back as the late 1960's. I think Graham's just sore that a younger, far better trained, and hungrier athlete cleaned house. Let it go, Billy. You lost. Drugs--the same drugs that everyone else was taking--or not, you lost. Kazmaier was simply better, and was simply one of the greatest at strongman events. You weren't.
Powerful guy to lift a tree.
oxygen not blood doping
Omg at 2:46 247 2:48 his early years he looks dead ringer to John Cena...wow
Shoots on?
In an interview, on you tube, Kaz states that he went to his hotel room and received an injection of Saline from a nurse and it was legal. I have some doubts because if there was a nurse present, and she was giving legal injections of anything, all of the competitors would have done the same thing. Who paid for the nurse services, I doubt she worked for free. Did Kaz have his own private nurse? He didn’t say why the nurse was there. If that's allowed by the WSM, why didn’t all the athletes have their own private doctors or nurses on site? I am not accusing Kaz of lying; however, his story seems incomplete.
If Bill Kazmaier was gone from the field - back to his hotel room - for only one hour at a time, I would find it hard to believe that he'd have enough time to be swapping out his tired blood for new blood. I think Graham's contention fails due to a lack of time.
All you need is 1 pint of red plasma
In an interview, on you tube, Kaz states that he went to his hotel room and received an injection of Saline from a nurse and it was legal. I have some doubts because if there was a nurse present, and she was giving legal injections of anything, all of the competitors would have done the same thing. Who paid for the nurse services, I doubt she worked for free. Did Kaz have his own private nurse? He didn’t say why the nurse was there. If that's allowed by the WSM, why didn’t all the athletes have their own private doctors or nurses on site? I am not accusing Kaz of lying; however, his story seems incomplete.
Never even heard of blood doping before but apparently its a thing... DAMN...
They were all on steroids but , blood dopeing I’m don’t think so , it was impressive to see billy in that event well past his prime, 400lbs refrigerator on his back , surprised me how well he did
Yeah Billy and you were clean as a baby's behind.
Sorry to say no but I'm a big fan.
Maybe Kaz had an oxygen tent
Billy Graham sure had a lot of back acne in the early year photo's. Make of that what you will.
you can also read his book and see he plainly said he took heaps of steroids...
Kaz was on steroids - NEWS FLASH - they were ALL on steroids!!! Including Graham.
He was probably getting an ice bath in his room
All muscle bound guys took roids back in the day, otherwise they couldn't compete with the users.
And you did not take roids or any of that stuff...
He openly talks about it, he was talking about stuff in addition to steroids. Maybe blow?
Kaz took this VERY badly, and, sadly, badmouthed Billy Graham in a few interviews after this.
billy you would know what he was doing wouldnt you?!!!!!
Bill took steroids but blood doping i don't think he did. i think he went back to his hotel to just rest. i know for me being outside and doing something really taxing on the body can were you out. taking 30 minnits to an hour resting indoors can work great for recuperation physically and mentally. it's a shame Billy Graham didn't compete in his prime, i'm sure he would have done better. after having to drop the belt to Bob 'howdy doody' he lost it a bit mentally and started abusing drugs. so during the wsm he wasn't up to par to compete as he could have when he trained with Arnold.
In an interview, on you tube, Kaz states that he went to his hotel room and received an injection of Saline from a nurse and it was legal. I have some doubts because if there was a nurse present, and she was giving legal injections of anything, all of the competitors would have done the same thing. Who paid for the nurse services, I doubt she worked for free. Did Kaz have his own private nurse? He didn’t say why the nurse was there. If that's allowed by the WSM, why didn’t all the athletes have their own private doctors or nurses on site? I am not accusing Kaz of lying; however, his story seems incomplete.
Superstar is the world’s oldest living zombie.
Kaz was probably 'doping' , BIG no no
Graham's probably right about the blood doping
well after kazmaier won the event three years in a row he took a lengthy hiatus, maybe it was legit and the organisation running the event found out?
is it true that andre the giant lifted 2000pound
A 2000 pound backlift probably.
Sounds like blood doping
I wonder how his body is doing now after all those years of steroid abuse?!
Well how long 1hr think he has to walk to his room so take that away from the hr how far away was his room and thinks guys what's the first thing you do when you get home or to your room use the bathroom maybe not everybody now they must hook him up and do this how long is to hook him up and do whatever needs to be done to blood dope now so far he has walked to his room right how long say 15 mins and that's walking fast and remember he had already did events so he is tired then now he is in his room does anybody know how long blood doping takes so say they have 30 mins left is it enough to get him doped and back out so he isn't late and he is Kaz so he must be there in time or they would notice him if he was late to me Kaz is the greatest and the others are looking for reasons why he is that much better they banned him 4 yrs because he was winning to much and he was American I say he wouldn't have time to blood dope in 1hr less then that do to going to his room 30mins top not enough but what do others think do the math the walk to the room remember walk back also I say no he might have done some stuff power lifters smell before they lift.
Good thing Graham didn't use anything..
Maybe he got a nap in? Massage or adjustments?
dont be a douch, blood doping was HIGHLY used in the early 80's. its the only way to get that way, THATS WHY they BANNED IT, it wasnt banned then
Haha he would have won either way and if it wasn't illegal at the time, they all had the chance so what is the big deal?
u got a point!
Thanks!
Hmmmmmm.... WHY must gifted athletes cheat...?
***** You really don't see a difference between taking something that's no longer allowed and taking something that was already banned? Bonds is a cheat should absolutely never be inducted in to the baseball HOF.
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McGwire opened his mouth.He made the decision yet he beat the tests (what does that tell you? It probably tells you to keep your mouth shut and Bonds was smart. Bonds transformation was utterly ridiculous and it is obvious but again, pros are stupid not to use (why give up all that extra money and fame-I have not heard about the baseball body count like there is in football, pro wrestling and boxing where suicide is a huge cause of death due to head trauma, but the media blames steroids. Look at Seau and Benoit for example. A number of former pro boxers also committed suicide, after living with dementia and depression (Seau and Benoit actually became psychotic)
Guys beat tests in the old days any number of ways using masking agents, getting a bladder urine change (dehydrating and then injecting clean piss directly into the bladder before a test), or get tipped off about tests and take orals and water based injectables exclusively during anytime where they may be tested and they get tipped off and clean up for a few weeks. Some tests were administered at "random" meaning only the nobodies got tested and of course caught because the sponsors did not want their best money makers' names being tarnished> Are they clean? Did all the benefits of the steroids disappear.
That makes no sense
To go from great to best
Probably doing some coke in between events
Oxygen
Biggest crybaby I have ever seen. He just can't admit it, Kazmier was the man.
***** That was the biggest crybaby you've ever seen? Perhaps you have a problem with exaggerating. What did he say that you thought made him "...biggest crybaby..."?
Was it really that bad?
U weren't strong enough to b considered for this event
who are you talking about who wasnt? Billy graham was in the EVENT so he was considered and ACCEPTED
Super star throwing stone so many years later, get the f out of here GRAHAM!
He's full of bs haha
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