As others have said the "timing technique" is actually really good when jumping. It keeps you active on the bike, always in a state of motion which helps you stay in control. You always want to be in control of the bike. Never just "let the bike do it." I've heard so many people say that... even pro riders who often forget what it was like to start out. You can't just let the bike do it... you have to take control of the bike. And the timing technique is key in doing that... so good on you Seth! Start developing that timing into more steaze!! And when you're in Arkansas next... let me know and we can do some riding 🤓
imho the sideways pushing of the bike is a thing also done in dirtbiking/motorcross, this is done to prevent from getting too much air/ too high of a jump.this way you stay lower and maintain more speed to get farther. you are right in 'not letting the bike do it'. i like that approach/mindset. i'll keep this in mind. i started doing that sideways thing also when i'm starting to jump on my mx bike.
Totally agree with the timing piece part. I went to a bike park and was so unstable hitting big jumps but as soon as i started to turn my bars or anything in the air it stabilised me and was so much more confident
I'm pleasantly surprised by the timing aspect that he mentioned. I have created a habit of turning my front wheel to the left whenever I hit jumps and it's not really on purpose. I just need some fluid movement to carry me through the air, otherwise I freeze up when I realize I stopped moving and I begin to dead sailor a bit.
Same here...its something my body started doing naturally! Maybe it's to stop the overexertion of the pulling up effect which can get you into serious trouble quick on many jumps, especially the bigger ones😯👊🏼💥
It's more of the "mental plan" going into the jump that causes the movement in the air, iMO. I just feel like when I am planning to do something in the air to add a little bit of flare or style, it helps my body position going up the face and off the lip. A dynamic planned movement will almost completely eliminate the scariest of things in the air...the "dead sailor," where you are crooked on the bike and the wheels aren't under you. It's the WORST feeling in mountain biking.
A guide had explained this before to me as well. He said it's to help control the bikes weight. You push it around in the air to always have it under control.
I think this is a very good how-to. The carpet thing is worth a million, as other channels talk about bunny-hop and all kind of other things that wont help you to get a feel for jumping. And it´s all about how it feels to become confident.
Nice to have a step by step guide for jumping. Usually do not really think about jumping, usually it works(95%) and sometimes i land to heavy on the nose(5%). Hope with these tips i can fix those errors. Also glad that Seth is not some MTB- pro makes it a lot more relatable for your average mountainbikers who are struggling with many of the same issues seth is struggling with.
i know that i could send anything, its just that i wont do it since i know what would go wrong, if there was no backlash when im casing or landing wrong i would send anything, even redbull rampage, the reason i would never do that is that i know about the consequences that would happen, and that is also the reason why i can send 10 meter jumps into a foam pit, since i know that there is nothing that can go wrong!
I do a lot of "urban" biking because there's not too many trails within a reasonable distance and this absolutely helped me to practice the smaller jumps I find around my town
Tried this technique and it fells so good, better control and feels less likely to rely on timing. Like what you were doing I was trying to Pull the handlebar so hard but so hard to get the rear to get air time. Then if i try another technique of pumping the rear shock and losing control of the handlebar and feels like I might crash anytime. This technique feels like the fundamentals that I can build on, my lower does all the work and my arms are there for control. Thank You so much and also to Roots MTB. This is so awesome…
This video really helped me jump correctly, before I was pulling up so hard i hurt my wrist. I tried it again with these tips and I cleared a jump that I have never been able to clear before.
Amazed at how many excellent pointers in one vid. I’ve watched many jump vids and this was by far the simplest and most intuitive yet. I’m a new fan of this coach.
I'm amazed how quickly you were able to take on his advice and improve your jump. I feel like there's usually a big gap between knowing what to do, and being able to apply it. That's an impressive trait of how quickly you were able to correct your mistakes and bad habits.
Good video for the beginners out there. Pros don’t use his timing method because that is the only way they know to jump, they do what they do because it is faster. If they stayed straight in the air they are going to lose time, Loic has described scrubs for show and scrubs for speed, he has it down to a science.
Big progress man! You went from trying to bunny hop from lip to landing to actually letting the jump float you across. I’m excited to see how this changes the way to ride the course now that you’re hitting the features so much more efficiently!
The yanking the carpet analogy is a great addition to the bag of tricks. Some people like to think about pushing the bike forward like trying to manual off the lip, or even just thinking about "twisting the throttle" is enough to get the bike out front and the front wheel high.
@@robotboy-my5ty Ha ... my job ,as a scuba instructor, is to discuss the techniques first, demonstrate next, then have the students try and correct when necessary.
I like at about 6:34 he says that when you jump something with no flair you tend to freeze up and just look at where you are and say "Oh my god". It really puts into perspective how people get jumps so easily. They do it with timing and flare.
Great video really enjoyed it ..i dirt jumped from the day I started riding a bike as a kid till well in my 30's I stopped riding and picked it up again at 45.... yes I'm an old dude ..but I have totally forgotten how to dirt jump this was a good refresher coarse
Ever since the other Seth on a bike first linked your channel I've been hooked, it's really inspiring to see someone do all the things they enjoy and get rewarded for their hard work. Also we need more music so I hope this skillshare sponsor plays a role in that :)
The movement/timing comment really hit me. I'm struggling because I can't jump straight. Every big jump, I lean to the side, mostly left. I have sent it into the hillside more than once and it sucks. Makes me wonder if I need to flair a bit.
I had the exact same problem you did. I was using my entire body. I hired a coach and told me the exact same thing of driving the bike with your heels like you are on a swing. I now go further with half the effort and my front wheel is consistently higher too.
man i’ve been watching your vids for a while and never realized you were up by st louie. great videos man. your jumps are awesome. i just started building some trails down here in the boot hill of missouri.
Good stuff, but I just want to point out that the downhill guys are actually scrubbing to limit height and trajectory so as to maintain speed, they are not losing speed being stylish!
Not one of the clips shown were guys "scrubbing", every one was a whip thrown AFTER leaving the lip of the jump. Scrubbing is done on the lip before you leave the jump.
It’s more stable in the air to whip due to gyroscopic effects. Having both wheels in different planes leads to additional stability. Apparently! I know physics but bad at jumping so far!
@@oystercatcher943 Have you tried it? I've seen a few people eat it trying to "throw in some style" before they are ready. If you are learning to jump, just go straight, nothing fancy. I've been jumping dirt on various bikes (mostly BMX) for about 40 years. I'm no pro, but I still build and ride.
@@richardhcarter Good points. No I haven't tried it. I will take it easy and not try anything fancy. I have very little air time to do much at all at my current level - but I'm getting more confident. I do tend to slightly twist my bars to the left for no good reason and I'm trying to stop it at the moment
I learned to jump wrong, and ingrained it for years, and had to painstakingly re-learn how to do it correctly. I'll share two things I learned from a Pro DH racer who helped me claw my way out of the bad habits, by using slow motion video, and going step by step to completely change my body position. These were critical, but simple points. 1). Look up off the face. Sounds simple, but people are so concerned about the landing, and they let their heads creep forward to see it as quickly as possible. That doesn't help anything, and in fact...puts you in a worse body position going up the face. When you're too far forward, you will actually feel the jolt of the fork extending off the lip, and it sets you up perfectly for the dreaded "buck." Your trajectory will be too low. As stated here, you can correct the back in the air to match the front. 2). You have to resist the instincts to "stay low, because it feels safer," and embrace getting launched into the air to match the take-off. That was REALLY hard for me to overcome, because I learned it wrong by "squashing" jumps. That's a great skill to have for racing, but it doesn't get you over the bigger gaps when the trail doesn't provide unlimited speed coming into them.
I've just started to learn jumping, but right now I'm fully stucked in number 2 :D Was there something that helped you overcome the fear to stay high on the bike while jumping? cheers mate
@@manuelr8792 ....Sort of. LOL I went to a table top jump that was just out of my comfort zone, that had a really gradually sloped landing on a local trail here called "Barn Burner." I hit the first jump over and over, and I started off just getting a feel for the lip, and landing on top of it. Then I would gradually increase speed a bit and commit a little more. I also had a friend filming me on a phone, so I could watch it back to see what I was doing. I just did that over, and over, and over until I was clearing it. I did that multiple sessions, and then continued down the trail hitting the next two that were significantly bigger. At some point, it dawned on me that if I just follow the trajectory of the lip, the bike behaves much better in the air. Recently, Loam Ranger has put out a video that emphasizes "Standing up to the jump." I think It's brilliant. I think it really boils it all down very well into one major thing that you have to learn....which is the correct body position and being in control. Search for that video and watch it, and then go practice that until it feels comfortable on a reasonable jump you've ridden before, and then scale up slowly. Set up a camera....that helps a lot, because you can make adjustments on the fly and prevent bad habits. At some point, we all have fear, and it's just relative to our comfort zone and risk/reward acceptance. But....starting with good technique will GREATLY reduce your chances of crashing! Good luck!
I don't think you need "straight legs" at take off, just need to keep a strong base and push against the jump. Having them completely straight is a recipe for disaster (getting bucked) if the takeoff isn't perfectly smooth or even just lippier than you expected.
Sounds right. I feel that standing up gives more upward momentum but subtracts a little speed as it would force the bike down slightly. At least that makes sense to me
Nice to see what a jumping clinic is like. Looking into improving my jumping skills too, and plan on getting around to getting some coaching myself next spring.
This is gonna sound mean but in these types of videos the coaches tend to give loads of advice that’s not really relevant so they look more professional ! I haven’t watched this yet but I assume it’s the same as all the others I’ve seen😂 the best way to learn is to just send it. Edit: having watched the video this coach is full of actual good advise so ignore what I said 🤣
I wanna see how much more speed you’d have if you went off the drop instead of the roll down. I think you’d be able to boost he step up more once you progress.
A big part of the way the World Cup racers take jumps is that the bike comes up from the jump and they absorb that with their bodies and force the bike sideways. This allows them to get less height on the jumps and go faster.
It looked like you were getting bucked a lot (you don't have to take this advice lol) but you should compress your suspension before your jump and shoot up and it will make your landing way smoother! Its kinda hard to explain as well lol good vid!
So nice to get some tips headed into the winter, once we get some proper snow on the ground maybe I can get over my fear of another head injury by knowing that the ground is a little more yielding haha.
I think the World Cup Downhill racers do "whips" over jumps for the same reason motocross riders do it. It lowers your trajectory and therefore keeps the bike lower to the ground. You spend less time in the air and can hit the ground sooner and get back on the throttle, or in this case "back on the pedal".
This coach looks like he helped you a lot! But some of the things he said were just full of bs. When a downhill racer wips, it’s called a scrub it’s meant to keep you lower to the ground so you have less time in the air. So it’s fast. The pump thing you do in the air is great btw. It lets you have movement of error. landing at the angle of the landing every time will make it catastrophic when you land too sort or too long. The pushing through the lip is very good though. And take this from someone who was deeply analyzed by a semi pro racer the whole year.
slow it down and watch them off the lip, they dont actually scrub. theres vids of it on youtube somewhere sorry i cant link. not every whip is a scrub though.
A whip and a scrub are not the same technique. I 'whip' almost every jump because it forces me to mentally stay connected to the bike and prevents me from getting lazy in the air. When I get tired (lazy) in the air my feet will start to come off of the pedals, then I know it is time to take a break. I am just this year learning how to scrub jumps to help maintain speed and also to help prevent over shooting some jumps that have 'kicky' lips. My friend, ex- MX pro, explains it as a scrub happens on the face of the jump and you are basically unloading the suspension right before the lip, so you dont get that kick from the lip. Right as you 'scrub' the lip you then 'whip' with both tires almost like a mini table top (left or right depending on next part of track) and 'low-fly' back to the ground as fast as possible, so you can be back to full throttle in the next section. Jumping high, although fun as hell, is slower in most situations. Edit to add; my mini 'whip' is my timing piece as described in the video, this helps me so much.
A scrub is when you relax your legs and let the bike come up to you instead of letting the lift send you higher. As he said whips are for show and can be used for timing or control
I used to be super confident in the air, hence my profile pic. But Brain cancer in 2016 has stuffed up my coordination quite a bit. I’ve been jumping again on my Mtb but the confidence just isn’t there like when I was younger. This video makes me feel a bit better because I am not that far off technique wise I just need to start sending it and gain that confidence.
depois de assistir pela segunda vez e realmente querendo melhorar minha técnica de salto, eu finalmente entendi a lição do vídeo :) agora é hora de praticar
when he says “we’re not gonna start with that big giant jump you made in your woods” you respond with “cool” (1:36) but everyone knows it’s all about that big giant awesome jump you made in your woods!!! Lol
I didn't realize you were in the St. Louis Area. Cool! I grew up out there before moving to Colorado. Started my mountain biking addiction out by Lone Elk Park in the '90s.
Thanks you for helping me how to jump but I own a XC bike so no air time for me. (I own a 345$ xc bike and the handlebars are narrow ,yes I tried some bigger jumps but It was super sketchy.) so now I'm saving money for some good handlebars.
I saw a pond in a video on the way to build the step up, maybe a bridge to ride over and jump over a small section of the pond at the end would be cool.
Finally a UA-camr that admits he needs some work and is willing to get it and share it this guy is just a truly good person
I always forget that you have 125,000 subs. Whenever I watch a video I always think you have way more. You definitely deserve more.
As others have said the "timing technique" is actually really good when jumping. It keeps you active on the bike, always in a state of motion which helps you stay in control. You always want to be in control of the bike. Never just "let the bike do it." I've heard so many people say that... even pro riders who often forget what it was like to start out. You can't just let the bike do it... you have to take control of the bike. And the timing technique is key in doing that... so good on you Seth! Start developing that timing into more steaze!! And when you're in Arkansas next... let me know and we can do some riding 🤓
Well put dude.
imho the sideways pushing of the bike is a thing also done in dirtbiking/motorcross, this is done to prevent from getting too much air/ too high of a jump.this way you stay lower and maintain more speed to get farther.
you are right in 'not letting the bike do it'. i like that approach/mindset. i'll keep this in mind.
i started doing that sideways thing also when i'm starting to jump on my mx bike.
Hey I never got good with jumping until this year and I just cleared my biggest jump ever, a 20-foot race step-up. You are doing great man!
Totally agree with the timing piece part. I went to a bike park and was so unstable hitting big jumps but as soon as i started to turn my bars or anything in the air it stabilised me and was so much more confident
Hiring a coach as I did at the beginning of this year was one of the best decisions I made for myself in mountain biking. I highly recommend it.
I'm pleasantly surprised by the timing aspect that he mentioned. I have created a habit of turning my front wheel to the left whenever I hit jumps and it's not really on purpose. I just need some fluid movement to carry me through the air, otherwise I freeze up when I realize I stopped moving and I begin to dead sailor a bit.
X up my dude
Same here...its something my body started doing naturally! Maybe it's to stop the overexertion of the pulling up effect which can get you into serious trouble quick on many jumps, especially the bigger ones😯👊🏼💥
It's more of the "mental plan" going into the jump that causes the movement in the air, iMO. I just feel like when I am planning to do something in the air to add a little bit of flare or style, it helps my body position going up the face and off the lip. A dynamic planned movement will almost completely eliminate the scariest of things in the air...the "dead sailor," where you are crooked on the bike and the wheels aren't under you. It's the WORST feeling in mountain biking.
@@willbros1499 we have all been there mate.....not good. Usually ends up either a sore ass or broken bones.😯
A guide had explained this before to me as well. He said it's to help control the bikes weight. You push it around in the air to always have it under control.
I think this is a very good how-to. The carpet thing is worth a million, as other channels talk about bunny-hop and all kind of other things that wont help you to get a feel for jumping. And it´s all about how it feels to become confident.
Nice to have a step by step guide for jumping. Usually do not really think about jumping, usually it works(95%) and sometimes i land to heavy on the nose(5%). Hope with these tips i can fix those errors. Also glad that Seth is not some MTB- pro makes it a lot more relatable for your average mountainbikers who are struggling with many of the same issues seth is struggling with.
I already know how to hit jumps, but it's nice to hear him put into words how its done. I just tell people to "send it"
Same 😂😂
Ur cool
Same
i know that i could send anything, its just that i wont do it since i know what would go wrong, if there was no backlash when im casing or landing wrong i would send anything, even redbull rampage, the reason i would never do that is that i know about the consequences that would happen, and that is also the reason why i can send 10 meter jumps into a foam pit, since i know that there is nothing that can go wrong!
Same
I do a lot of "urban" biking because there's not too many trails within a reasonable distance and this absolutely helped me to practice the smaller jumps I find around my town
Tried this technique and it fells so good, better control and feels less likely to rely on timing. Like what you were doing I was trying to Pull the handlebar so hard but so hard to get the rear to get air time. Then if i try another technique of pumping the rear shock and losing control of the handlebar and feels like I might crash anytime.
This technique feels like the fundamentals that I can build on, my lower does all the work and my arms are there for control. Thank You so much and also to Roots MTB. This is so awesome…
This video really helped me jump correctly, before I was pulling up so hard i hurt my wrist. I tried it again with these tips and I cleared a jump that I have never been able to clear before.
Heck yea man!!
@@BackyardTrailBuilds, thanks
I love when a coach gets excited when they see you get something! V wholesome!
Amazed at how many excellent pointers in one vid. I’ve watched many jump vids and this was by far the simplest and most intuitive yet. I’m a new fan of this coach.
I love this series and seeing him improve. Great Job at the trail too
I'm amazed how quickly you were able to take on his advice and improve your jump. I feel like there's usually a big gap between knowing what to do, and being able to apply it. That's an impressive trait of how quickly you were able to correct your mistakes and bad habits.
Simp
@@edwardpelinovsky7080 lol
Good video for the beginners out there. Pros don’t use his timing method because that is the only way they know to jump, they do what they do because it is faster. If they stayed straight in the air they are going to lose time, Loic has described scrubs for show and scrubs for speed, he has it down to a science.
This is the second video I've watched with Jay instructing. Learned so much in those 2 videos. Thanks for sharing!
Big progress man! You went from trying to bunny hop from lip to landing to actually letting the jump float you across. I’m excited to see how this changes the way to ride the course now that you’re hitting the features so much more efficiently!
The yanking the carpet analogy is a great addition to the bag of tricks. Some people like to think about pushing the bike forward like trying to manual off the lip, or even just thinking about "twisting the throttle" is enough to get the bike out front and the front wheel high.
This is a perfect change of pace.. I am not comfortable in the air at all... This is a great starting point
Great stuff, man! Has been fun to see the progression of your skills and trails.
Good to see your progression man! You're killing it. Another Great Episode. :D
Great vid, I've been dirt jumping for many years and I still watched the whole video through to see if there was anything I still needed to learn.
the coach dude didnt even ride some jumps. would have loved so see that.
scrolled down to comment the same thing
Yea same
I’m sure he did but just not on camera. Anyways, being hired as a coach you should be teaching rather than just going to ride the jumps.
@@robotboy-my5ty Ha ... my job ,as a scuba instructor, is to discuss the techniques first, demonstrate next, then have the students try and correct when necessary.
a good tip, sometimes even the pros cant teach for nuts
I like at about 6:34 he says that when you jump something with no flair you tend to freeze up and just look at where you are and say "Oh my god". It really puts into perspective how people get jumps so easily. They do it with timing and flare.
I use to jump a lot when I raced BMX bikes! I’m 50 now I don’t know if I should get back into jumping but it is a lot fun 🤩
I started trying doing jumps very recently and that rug analogy is exactly how i felt the first time I tried jumping.
We need more progression videos!! They’re soooo good please!
This video is perfectly timed. I have struggled with jumping even small jumps.
Backyard trail builds uploaded on my birthday🥳
happpy birthday man!
Happy birthday!!!
weeeeeeell happy birthday dude!
Happeeee birthedaye
Happy Birthday Navid! 🍻
Great video really enjoyed it ..i dirt jumped from the day I started riding a bike as a kid till well in my 30's I stopped riding and picked it up again at 45.... yes I'm an old dude ..but I have totally forgotten how to dirt jump this was a good refresher coarse
I come from Germany and i realy enjoy watching your videos 👍
This was good for you and for the couch because you learned,and he got to ride your amazing trails.
Ever since the other Seth on a bike first linked your channel I've been hooked, it's really inspiring to see someone do all the things they enjoy and get rewarded for their hard work. Also we need more music so I hope this skillshare sponsor plays a role in that :)
Attempt #5 shows how much our body subconsciously fights the feeling of weightlessness. Well done.
The movement/timing comment really hit me. I'm struggling because I can't jump straight. Every big jump, I lean to the side, mostly left. I have sent it into the hillside more than once and it sucks. Makes me wonder if I need to flair a bit.
I had the exact same problem you did. I was using my entire body. I hired a coach and told me the exact same thing of driving the bike with your heels like you are on a swing. I now go further with half the effort and my front wheel is consistently higher too.
man i’ve been watching your vids for a while and never realized you were up by st louie. great videos man. your jumps are awesome. i just started building some trails down here in the boot hill of missouri.
Good stuff, but I just want to point out that the downhill guys are actually scrubbing to limit height and trajectory so as to maintain speed, they are not losing speed being stylish!
more time on the ground means more pedal strokes you can put in.
Not one of the clips shown were guys "scrubbing", every one was a whip thrown AFTER leaving the lip of the jump. Scrubbing is done on the lip before you leave the jump.
It’s more stable in the air to whip due to gyroscopic effects. Having both wheels in different planes leads to additional stability. Apparently! I know physics but bad at jumping so far!
@@oystercatcher943 Have you tried it? I've seen a few people eat it trying to "throw in some style" before they are ready. If you are learning to jump, just go straight, nothing fancy. I've been jumping dirt on various bikes (mostly BMX) for about 40 years. I'm no pro, but I still build and ride.
@@richardhcarter Good points. No I haven't tried it. I will take it easy and not try anything fancy. I have very little air time to do much at all at my current level - but I'm getting more confident. I do tend to slightly twist my bars to the left for no good reason and I'm trying to stop it at the moment
Seriously helpfull video for someone whos been struggling for quite some time ! Thank you !
ive been waiting for this
i could use a jumping coach
Same
That’s some delicious content but i want more😔😔
Same dude
Delicious?
@@adam4030 you know when you like something “delicious”
he should get a videographer so he can focus on his builds and pump more out
@@ZCShrimpShop so true
I learned to jump wrong, and ingrained it for years, and had to painstakingly re-learn how to do it correctly. I'll share two things I learned from a Pro DH racer who helped me claw my way out of the bad habits, by using slow motion video, and going step by step to completely change my body position. These were critical, but simple points. 1). Look up off the face. Sounds simple, but people are so concerned about the landing, and they let their heads creep forward to see it as quickly as possible. That doesn't help anything, and in fact...puts you in a worse body position going up the face. When you're too far forward, you will actually feel the jolt of the fork extending off the lip, and it sets you up perfectly for the dreaded "buck." Your trajectory will be too low. As stated here, you can correct the back in the air to match the front. 2). You have to resist the instincts to "stay low, because it feels safer," and embrace getting launched into the air to match the take-off. That was REALLY hard for me to overcome, because I learned it wrong by "squashing" jumps. That's a great skill to have for racing, but it doesn't get you over the bigger gaps when the trail doesn't provide unlimited speed coming into them.
I've just started to learn jumping, but right now I'm fully stucked in number 2 :D Was there something that helped you overcome the fear to stay high on the bike while jumping?
cheers mate
@@manuelr8792 ....Sort of. LOL I went to a table top jump that was just out of my comfort zone, that had a really gradually sloped landing on a local trail here called "Barn Burner." I hit the first jump over and over, and I started off just getting a feel for the lip, and landing on top of it. Then I would gradually increase speed a bit and commit a little more. I also had a friend filming me on a phone, so I could watch it back to see what I was doing. I just did that over, and over, and over until I was clearing it. I did that multiple sessions, and then continued down the trail hitting the next two that were significantly bigger. At some point, it dawned on me that if I just follow the trajectory of the lip, the bike behaves much better in the air.
Recently, Loam Ranger has put out a video that emphasizes "Standing up to the jump." I think It's brilliant. I think it really boils it all down very well into one major thing that you have to learn....which is the correct body position and being in control. Search for that video and watch it, and then go practice that until it feels comfortable on a reasonable jump you've ridden before, and then scale up slowly. Set up a camera....that helps a lot, because you can make adjustments on the fly and prevent bad habits.
At some point, we all have fear, and it's just relative to our comfort zone and risk/reward acceptance. But....starting with good technique will GREATLY reduce your chances of crashing! Good luck!
timing piece is so true. whenever i do a jump thats bigger than expected i just have to add some sort of movement to it
I don't think you need "straight legs" at take off, just need to keep a strong base and push against the jump. Having them completely straight is a recipe for disaster (getting bucked) if the takeoff isn't perfectly smooth or even just lippier than you expected.
This is very true too.
Sounds right. I feel that standing up gives more upward momentum but subtracts a little speed as it would force the bike down slightly. At least that makes sense to me
Love it but I would like to see a full GoPro run or edit of the full run
Nice to see what a jumping clinic is like. Looking into improving my jumping skills too, and plan on getting around to getting some coaching myself next spring.
This is entertaining as well as helpful. Hopefully when I get the chance to ride jumps, this’ll hopefully help.
This is gonna sound mean but in these types of videos the coaches tend to give loads of advice that’s not really relevant so they look more professional ! I haven’t watched this yet but I assume it’s the same as all the others I’ve seen😂 the best way to learn is to just send it.
Edit: having watched the video this coach is full of actual good advise so ignore what I said 🤣
@@frankiemazzei8882 Haha lol, I get what your saying, and I’m glad you agree with me now😂
Jay seems like a great teacher, and great to see your progress mah dude
Good information. I'm glad you got this video in before the rain hit
Jay Thomas is the man!!
your channle is my favrite i am a huge fan and u inspire me thanks keep up the good work
Can't wait to try these tips!
I wanna see how much more speed you’d have if you went off the drop instead of the roll down. I think you’d be able to boost he step up more once you progress.
Nice! Thanks so much for this informative video! I also gotta say I loved the leaves around the ramps at 8:26, kudos whoever thought of doing that :-)
keeping your legs straighter actually help me clear i jump i though was impossible. Thank you Seth
A big part of the way the World Cup racers take jumps is that the bike comes up from the jump and they absorb that with their bodies and force the bike sideways. This allows them to get less height on the jumps and go faster.
definitely and it teaches safer jumping skills. this coach looked unconfident about flight control.
It looked like you were getting bucked a lot (you don't have to take this advice lol) but you should compress your suspension before your jump
and shoot up and it will make your landing way smoother! Its kinda hard to explain as well lol good vid!
when he Straightened his legs, he is compressing the bike. He was previously bending them and losing energy.
These trails are getting HUGE great job man
Thanks for the free knowledge, can’t wait to get to the jump trail later
So nice to get some tips headed into the winter, once we get some proper snow on the ground maybe I can get over my fear of another head injury by knowing that the ground is a little more yielding haha.
Jay is the man!
I think the World Cup Downhill racers do "whips" over jumps for the same reason motocross riders do it. It lowers your trajectory and therefore keeps the bike lower to the ground. You spend less time in the air and can hit the ground sooner and get back on the throttle, or in this case "back on the pedal".
This coach looks like he helped you a lot! But some of the things he said were just full of bs. When a downhill racer wips, it’s called a scrub it’s meant to keep you lower to the ground so you have less time in the air. So it’s fast. The pump thing you do in the air is great btw. It lets you have movement of error. landing at the angle of the landing every time will make it catastrophic when you land too sort or too long. The pushing through the lip is very good though. And take this from someone who was deeply analyzed by a semi pro racer the whole year.
Pushing through the lip is a good skill to have but it's not a race, backyard jumps are for boosting 🤘
slow it down and watch them off the lip, they dont actually scrub. theres vids of it on youtube somewhere sorry i cant link. not every whip is a scrub though.
A whip and a scrub are not the same technique. I 'whip' almost every jump because it forces me to mentally stay connected to the bike and prevents me from getting lazy in the air. When I get tired (lazy) in the air my feet will start to come off of the pedals, then I know it is time to take a break. I am just this year learning how to scrub jumps to help maintain speed and also to help prevent over shooting some jumps that have 'kicky' lips. My friend, ex- MX pro, explains it as a scrub happens on the face of the jump and you are basically unloading the suspension right before the lip, so you dont get that kick from the lip. Right as you 'scrub' the lip you then 'whip' with both tires almost like a mini table top (left or right depending on next part of track) and 'low-fly' back to the ground as fast as possible, so you can be back to full throttle in the next section. Jumping high, although fun as hell, is slower in most situations. Edit to add; my mini 'whip' is my timing piece as described in the video, this helps me so much.
A scrub is when you relax your legs and let the bike come up to you instead of letting the lift send you higher. As he said whips are for show and can be used for timing or control
I love these coaches that tell you what to do but never actually show you.
OMG I should have watched this. That "timing piece" thing makes a lot more sense to me now.
great video, will be practicing these tips
This guy needs more subs he is actually the best mtb channel on UA-cam
Best how to jump video I've seen
Some real top tips!
Excellent and very helpful! Louis CK is a great coach!
I love watching your progress my man... it's really cool!
Finnaly a tips video that really helps
Thank you
Please post more! (only if you can)
Honestly the best piece of advice that has helped me progress my skills is to “just send it”
Thanks for this vid. The rug pulling/charlie brown image gave my jumps a big push forward, or upwards actually
I used to be super confident in the air, hence my profile pic. But Brain cancer in 2016 has stuffed up my coordination quite a bit. I’ve been jumping again on my Mtb but the confidence just isn’t there like when I was younger. This video makes me feel a bit better because I am not that far off technique wise I just need to start sending it and gain that confidence.
depois de assistir pela segunda vez e realmente querendo melhorar minha técnica de salto, eu finalmente entendi a lição do vídeo :) agora é hora de praticar
Omg... That makes so much sense!
I LOVE YOUR CONTENT!!!!!! Dude Im so glad I found your page because I have a tone of ideas for projects out at my grandpas farm
That excavator is parked in a "interesting" spot... :D Thank you for the great vid as always.
I always feel safest on big jumps with a little baby whip/handlebar turn because of how precise it makes my timing/clawing with my feet
Yes another awesome video to watch!!
Awesome! This helps me greatly! Thanks for having a jump lesson! Woo!🤘
when he says “we’re not gonna start with that big giant jump you made in your woods” you respond with “cool” (1:36) but everyone knows it’s all about that big giant awesome jump you made in your woods!!! Lol
Anyone else been waiting ever since he said this guy was coming in the last episode?
This is so good awesome man 😊
Great info, thanks for sharing!
I didn't realize you were in the St. Louis Area. Cool! I grew up out there before moving to Colorado. Started my mountain biking addiction out by Lone Elk Park in the '90s.
That step up is so choice
Your getting better I see improvement! 👊🏼👍🏼
Very helpful. Thanks for the video
Thanks you for helping me how to jump but I own a XC bike so no air time for me. (I own a 345$ xc bike and the handlebars are narrow ,yes I tried some bigger jumps but It was super sketchy.) so now I'm saving money for some good handlebars.
I really want to come and ride these trails!
Wish i had a backyard like that!!!!!!
I saw a pond in a video on the way to build the step up, maybe a bridge to ride over and jump over a small section of the pond at the end would be cool.
Yo charlie been sending it all these years!!!
Awesome as always