The Best MTB Brakes Ever? | Intend Trinity Review

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  • @DaleStone
    @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +17

    What are the best brakes that you've ever used? 🏆
    Learn more about these wild brakes at: bit.ly/IntendDaleStone 🔥

    • @ToddNZMTB
      @ToddNZMTB 10 місяців тому +2

      I've only ever really used Shimano XT 2 pot brakes.

    • @NikolaiVozza
      @NikolaiVozza 10 місяців тому +6

      Any mainstream hydraulic brake with 200-220mm rotors and metallic pads is 95% as good as this. Its sort of wrong to refer to brakes as having stopping power - they don't generate stopping power, they transfer the force from you finger to the pistons. After that its in the pad material and rotors. Efficiency is the better term. Higher end brakes are stiffer everywhere, which means more of your finger force goes into the braking force rather than deformation of the caliper/master cylinder, or expansion of the brake line, so they feel more powerful. But, if your brake can lock a wheel completely (which most brakes can do with big rotors and metallic pads) there is really no more stopping power to be had.
      Personally, I am a fan of TRPs, but will be getting Formula brakes since they offer extended support with parts, so you can completely rebuild them.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +14

      I would strongly argue your 95% claim, haha. At best I'd say 70%. I agree that "power" is not everything, which is why I focused on more important qualities like consistency, versatility, adjustability, etc in this video. Increasing rotor size is a convenient bandage for poor designs though. 🙂

    • @JustSnowglow
      @JustSnowglow 10 місяців тому +5

      TRP Trail EVOs are my favorites so far. I would probably prefer the DH over the Trail but I'm cheap lol

    • @robertrabanal2195
      @robertrabanal2195 10 місяців тому +2

      Magura MT7 with HC3 levers on all my mountain bikes! They save my life often. Excellent ergonomics and very adjustable. Can be tough to bleed right on install but good for 10 years after. Congrats on new brakes. Look great!

  • @MTB_Corbin
    @MTB_Corbin 10 місяців тому +139

    absolute fire review. High level production, extremely high level riding, great script, valuable information. You nailed this one, Dale! 10/10 viewer score

    • @MuffinKingStudios
      @MuffinKingStudios 10 місяців тому +1

      Exactly what I was thinking! New sub acquired.

  • @grantandre79
    @grantandre79 10 місяців тому +113

    Quirks and features!?.. Dale Scale!?.. somebody has been watching some Doug Demuro. Nice. 🤣

    • @naylor7495
      @naylor7495 10 місяців тому +16

      even the black screen in the beginning with his info on it is a doug classic

    • @Christophe_L
      @Christophe_L 10 місяців тому +8

      THIS is the...

    • @RubensOteroNeto
      @RubensOteroNeto 10 місяців тому +1

      Why not copy from the best?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +15

      It's partly for the joke, but also Doug no longer does detailed Doug Score breakdowns so it's time to evolve the format into a different niche! 🙂

    • @freeflymonkey
      @freeflymonkey 10 місяців тому +1

      LOL.. FOR SURE

  • @uniworkhorse
    @uniworkhorse 10 місяців тому +11

    THANK YOU for not dragging the video as much as I drag my brakes. Every second of the video felt worth my time watching and I feel respected as a viewer!
    Also, that ride looks gorgeous holy canoli dude, where is that???

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +3

      Haha, I couldn't have talked much faster if I tried! 😆
      Canada!

  • @SnowShackboy
    @SnowShackboy 10 місяців тому +18

    I've only own Intend's suspension products but can confirm that their customer service is 👌. Usually get to talk to the man himself (Cornelius) and he's always sure to throw in a smiley face somewhere on that email. Solid dude and company! Hope to try those brakes someday

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +4

      Their customer service is truly one of the best. Speedy, concise and knowledgeable. 🧠

  • @VanCan
    @VanCan 10 місяців тому +50

    I Intend to try these one day

    • @christopherstaples6758
      @christopherstaples6758 10 місяців тому

      better get that buy bot script ready then scalpers are after them as well these have been resold for ~$10k ...

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      @christopherstaples6758 these really weren't that difficult to get lol

  • @bouzouki2006
    @bouzouki2006 10 місяців тому +8

    Hey Dale, great review there. I like your very relaxed tone and energy, makes the product shine even more. Will check more of your vids from now on! :)

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      This is the only one like this haha, for now! 🫡

  • @Rhn..js2
    @Rhn..js2 10 місяців тому +18

    Dude your content creation quality is through the roof! Absolutely love it keep it up

    • @deanl1108
      @deanl1108 4 місяці тому

      Hope brakes are better.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  4 місяці тому +1

      Definitely not from all of the ones I've tried!

    • @johncoons1666
      @johncoons1666 3 місяці тому

      Brembo

  • @cehvau_mtb
    @cehvau_mtb 10 місяців тому +8

    Great work! And can only agree. I really like the little empty lever travel, direkt but with awesome controllability.
    And it’s so easy to bleed this breaks.

  • @brandonrich6342
    @brandonrich6342 10 місяців тому +2

    Congratulations 1st on your subscribers count 2nd on being able to buy yourself a gift that you have been looking forward to and truly enjoy. Thank you for testing these out and sharing your thoughts with us. I really enjoyed the entire video.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the positivity Brandon! 🙌🏻

  • @stephenkrause6059
    @stephenkrause6059 10 місяців тому +3

    Had huge issues on a new brake purchase with brake noise. You cannot imagine the number of things I tried to get rid of the noise. In the end a simple swap to MTX brake pads did the trick.

  • @LiamU5272
    @LiamU5272 10 місяців тому +2

    Ive been eyeing Intend for a while now, these brakes have always been really interesting since they launched. Glad you were able to get your hands on some!

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      A bit of luck and a bit of money required! 😅

  • @HOV4N
    @HOV4N 10 місяців тому +8

    Great review. When you had your bike build video I was curious about these brakes. Thanks for sharing your feedback! 🚲🚲

  • @johnhouston8297
    @johnhouston8297 10 місяців тому +7

    One of my favorite MTB channels next to Nate Hills, great work.

  • @kanevanlaare6001
    @kanevanlaare6001 10 місяців тому +4

    Such a good review I hope you do more components. My favorite video of yours

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I hope to do more like this soon.

  • @fisher.mans_friends-fu8gt
    @fisher.mans_friends-fu8gt 10 місяців тому +2

    Cornelius worked for or with Trickstuff. He developed the Maxima as far as I recall. Thumbs up for the nice unbiased review. Cheers

  • @trcaplette1
    @trcaplette1 10 місяців тому +4

    I am currently using xtr levers (9020) mixed with saint calipers, metal pads and 2.3mm 203 rotors - the stopping power of this setup is both incredible and terrifying at the same time!!

    • @viperrules24
      @viperrules24 10 місяців тому +1

      Do you get wandering bite point with the BL-M9020 levers?

    • @tippy35075
      @tippy35075 10 місяців тому

      How much difference did you notice going to a 2.3mm thick rotor over the Shimano ones?

    • @trcaplette1
      @trcaplette1 10 місяців тому

      @@tippy35075 the difference is incredible - everything has changed. There is so much power and nice modulation. I bought ztto rotors from ali-exress after watching a youtube review and he wasnt wrong in any way - 36 bucks CAD (for 2) well spent!

    • @trcaplette1
      @trcaplette1 10 місяців тому

      @@viperrules24 I don't, but I burp them often due to the issue with the wiper seal on the servowave piston.

  • @shaundownes4329
    @shaundownes4329 10 місяців тому +9

    Be interesting to see how they would compare to my Trickstuff Maximas.They look pretty good also.👍🏻

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +6

      I've tried the Maximas a few times in parking lots. The feel is similar, though the Trickstuffs I've tried have been slightly more on/off feeling. The biggest thing these Intends have above them are the painless bleed and a number of small details. IMBY is likely getting a set of Maximas this year, so I hope to do a detailed head to head comparison...

    • @shaundownes4329
      @shaundownes4329 10 місяців тому +5

      It’s hard to explain how they feel but they are amazing and to be honest you just get used to them. I have the Maximas on 3 bikes now as anything else just doesn’t compare.
      Plus despite what you may here getting them and a complete set of spares is pretty easy.
      Which is now made better now they sell spare levers.Had my first set when they were on kickstarter about 5 years ago. Had to do nothing to. them in all that time.
      Got a set for my new Atherton Am 170 a few months ago and bought some more for my AthertonDH bike which is due anytime now.
      Nice to see you riding real brakes rather than the Chinese fakes(Lewisbrakes).
      Love what you do man . Keep it real.👍🏻👊

  • @stefanlazov2888
    @stefanlazov2888 9 місяців тому

    It is really interesting to see how many people want this type of content. If you start testing different suspension mounted on the same frame it would be amazing

  • @oskarstaudte
    @oskarstaudte 10 місяців тому +21

    I like the doug demuro references :p

  • @mt-wizard
    @mt-wizard 10 місяців тому +6

    just got Hayes Dominion A4 to replace Code RSC, and oh my! I never thought something like that is even possible

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +5

      And the Code RSCs are the best brakes that SRAM offers!! 🥲

    • @duncanwright301
      @duncanwright301 10 місяців тому

      @@DaleStone Sounds like it's possible that SRAM has an actually good brake coming down the pipe....and they're mineral oil.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +5

      Time to undo years of slandering mineral oil then... haha.

    • @mikebeaudet7107
      @mikebeaudet7107 10 місяців тому +4

      Hayes Dominion are amazing, found a fr + rr set for $250 CAN last winter - hard to imagine much better!

    • @JohnDoe-rl9ft
      @JohnDoe-rl9ft 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStoneKeep in mind that this is a classic case of “new and fresh vs old, worn and could probably do with a rebuild”. That said, A4s are likely a bit better overall than Codes.

  • @chrisbennett5796
    @chrisbennett5796 10 місяців тому +1

    If I was riding that trail, I would want the best brakes that money could buy (and maybe a parachute). Great review and amazing riding!

  • @ericmoncivais
    @ericmoncivais 10 місяців тому +3

    I went with the TRP DH EVO and they feel a lot different than my previous Shimano and SRAM code rsc. I'm also a Claymore enjoyer so I like to try new things (for me, i know trp is not a small player like intend) but these breakes sure seem interesting. Thanks for the review! When I got my bike your videos hyped the hell out of me while waiting to arrive. Keep doing this!

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +3

      These Intends are to most brakes like the Claymore is to most frames. You get it; and I'll do my best!

    • @ericmoncivais
      @ericmoncivais 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone Damn, now I want them desperately hahahaha

    • @turntabillist
      @turntabillist 9 місяців тому +2

      The TRP DH EVOs with Freedomcoast levers are astonishingly amazing brakes! Maybe I'm just saying that because I converted from Code RSCs and the difference I'm experiencing is astronomical. Would I feel the same difference if I upgraded the TRPs to the Intends?? It's possible of course, but I remain skeptical. They're more than double the price of the TRPs! (I know at the end of the vid, you did address the whole, "double the price" issue, lol! Great video BTW)

  • @Doggepp
    @Doggepp 3 місяці тому +2

    Okay - After watching this video about 13 times the last few months. And having planned an enduro/bike park build for a while. Missing the last batch of brakes, I have finally managed to get a set! Did a reverse of what you did - A europeean buying a lightly used set from Canada. Probably cost me same/if not more than what they cost new. But I have a bike thats fully ready except for the brakes, which I want to get to ride before winter comes here.
    Will be mounting them in a few days, and do the first test rides next week. Super stoked, and feel like I made the right choice, since I dont really get along with any other brakes...

    • @manfromanotherland
      @manfromanotherland 12 днів тому

      Did you get them installed? What’s the verdict? Asking for a friend 👀

    • @Doggepp
      @Doggepp 12 днів тому +1

      @@manfromanotherland They are very very good - I havent had any other fancy brakes, but compared to anything from Sram or shimano, they blow those out of the water. They are so good I want to get a second pair just to have as spare, but havent pulled the trigger yet.
      My other bike has sram brakes, and I cant stand those brakes now. So mostly waiting for them to release the smaller caliper for trail/xc bikes that they have teased.
      Just ordered a fork/shock from them, since I am such a fan of their brakes, I want to try their other stuff.

  • @robertturner-r2r
    @robertturner-r2r 10 місяців тому +1

    I agree with your review. As a long time Trickstuff owner, these have exceeded my expectations. The install and bleed alone is worth it.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the confirmation! 🤘🏻

  • @BeniKenesei
    @BeniKenesei 9 місяців тому +1

    Little tip: the Trinity uses the matchmaker standard for mounting shifters. So any adaptor that would mount to a SRAM matchmaker lever works with the Trinitys.(Like WolfTooth ISEV-MM) You have to do a bit of filing to get the adaptor down to 8mm in width.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  9 місяців тому +2

      That makes sense, though I have to review the Trinities with the options that are provided with them and not any third party adapters that could be included. Good tip though!

  • @B1KER
    @B1KER 10 місяців тому +1

    Pretty cool looking brakes. How’s the bite on a SRAM - Shimano scale?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Definitely a lot closer to the Shimano side, maybe even slightly off the scale depending on how you set them up! 💪🏻

  • @nicks2716
    @nicks2716 10 місяців тому +1

    Great review Dale! I’ll never be in the market for such high end brakes but, for those who are, you’ve done them an incredible service! 👏

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks Nick! You never know, I wasn't either! 😆

  • @brocksolidmtb684
    @brocksolidmtb684 9 місяців тому +1

    great video! I really like this format its fresh and to the point and we get to watch you ride. very cool

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  9 місяців тому +1

      Definitely heavily inspired by Doug, haha.

  • @duncanwright301
    @duncanwright301 10 місяців тому +1

    My favorite brakes I've been on so far are the TRP DH-R Evo, which were on a demo bike, and I've liked the TRP Quadiem on my own bikes. I have a set of Hope Tech 4 E4 in a box waiting for my new bike...

  • @FOTB407
    @FOTB407 10 місяців тому +1

    Your “why?” In response to two finger braking convinced me to train my left hand to 1 finger brake. Prior to this video i had been telling myself that I’d never be able to do this!

    • @pat_unit
      @pat_unit 9 місяців тому +1

      why ? :D 1 Finger all the way :)

    • @peaknet9095
      @peaknet9095 6 місяців тому

      Wait until you have arthritis in your hands and then the light bulb will go on about why you have four of them….

  •  10 місяців тому +10

    Damnit, this is the first time i've seen more of you than your hands and feet :D

    • @a8f235
      @a8f235 10 місяців тому +3

      And I always thought he was an antilope. Damn...

  • @JaggedTusk
    @JaggedTusk 10 місяців тому +2

    These brakes sound outstanding and I'd love to try one of their forks. Lack of spares and service parts are the main reason I've never bought any Intend products. I'm not shipping my suspension to Germany from the USA to get it serviced. I'd need a set of spare brakes and suspension if I used Intend stuff.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      These brakes (and their forks, I believe) are very easy to service, much better than average, and don't need to be shipped anywhere to perform it. My understanding is that Intend's in house stock of spares is pretty good, but a failure requiring a spare is definitely the exception and not the rule. I hear you, it would be an inconvenience living here for sure, but it's a risk I think is justifiable given their performance! An early adopter fee. 🙂

  • @rab..
    @rab.. 10 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic review Dale , The lack of spare parts availability at that price point would scare the bejesus out of me. That's actually why i eventually made the switch from shimano saints to hope tech 4 v4's. Despite prefering the feel of the saints , i got sick of having to buy a full caliper or lever every time a seal would start leaking. The fact that there are still parts and service kits available for 20 year old hope brakes was a big deciding factor

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +3

      I think there's a key point missing there. My understanding is that Intend actually has a pretty good stock of spare parts available if you need them, they just aren't commonly available in shops or for purchase without reaching out. Service requiring a spare is thankfully the exception and not the rule, but where you live relative to Germany will certainly influence how fast you'll be back up and running. I trust Intend will continue to supply spares as necessary based on the sustainability of their packaging alone! haha

    • @rab..
      @rab.. 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone ahhh good , I may have misinterpreted that part ! Thanks for clearing that up 👍

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      @@rab.. I also could have been clearer in the video. 🙂

  • @GiorgioCamozzi
    @GiorgioCamozzi 10 місяців тому +1

    Just got them as well from the third batch and really looking forward to mount them onto my Blur TR! Regarding weight and weight weenies: they are still around 10g lighter than SRAM Level UItimate 2 piston brakes (which are 🚮), so no excuses weight wise. The only problem that must be noted is that you need at least 180mm/200mm rotors back/front because of spoke clearance (so here you might add some weight again if you were running 160/180mm rotors before)

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Good point with the rotor size constraint. Hopefully it's not relevant for most of my audience, but I missed that in this video!

  • @sandy_knight
    @sandy_knight 10 місяців тому +1

    I have a couple of questions about compatibility. 1. What sort of brake pads do they take? If they're a bespoke shape and spares aren't easily available then its a deal breaker for me. Also rotor thickness, are they happy with thicker rotors? What do Intend recommend?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      They use the most popular brake pad standard in the world, SRAM Code. Intend claims they are compatible with all rotor thicknesses between 1.7 and 2.3mm, no specific recommendation. Both are awesome compatibility details.

    • @sandy_knight
      @sandy_knight 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone That's good to hear, they're officially on my list of luxury upgrades now. It just leaves me wondering if it would be easier to find and hire the A-Team and get them to track a set down for me 😜

  • @Gojiraa666
    @Gojiraa666 10 місяців тому +2

    Cornelius cat finger. I’m dying 🤣 I’m sorry but that is the most unique name I’ve ever heard and love it!

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Cornelius Kapfinger*, like a bond villian! 🥷🏻

    • @Gojiraa666
      @Gojiraa666 10 місяців тому +1

      Ya I should’ve put the disclaimer on my spelling 😂

  • @sprousaTM
    @sprousaTM 10 місяців тому +11

    I love my Hope Tech4 V4s and E4. But the Intend look amazing too. It gets even wilder when you realize, that Intend is basically run by a single person (Cornelius), who started the company in his room as a student and up to this date has his office and so on in a normal flat :)

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Haha, yep! He definitely deserves all of his success so far, and a fair bit more. 🙂

    • @TheGman420
      @TheGman420 10 місяців тому

      Do ur v4s squeak ?

    • @sprousaTM
      @sprousaTM 10 місяців тому

      @@TheGman420 No. I run the green race compound on both ebike and enduro paired with sram 200mm HS2 discs. Works perfectly. On the e4 I use trickstuff discs with the green compound. They tend to squeak a little bit when not fully pressed, but barely noticeable

    • @stevesracingbits
      @stevesracingbits 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TheGman420all brakes squeak when wet but that's the only time my v4 brakes squeak is when wet mine are perfect other wise

    • @marcoschreiber5586
      @marcoschreiber5586 10 місяців тому

      @@stevesracingbitsever tried Galfer Pads and Discs? Even wet, they are amazingly quiet

  • @JeffKendallWeed
    @JeffKendallWeed 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice video man! Wow those brakes look fancy!

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Haha thanks Jeff, their performance certainly matches their looks!

  • @peterk7662
    @peterk7662 10 місяців тому +2

    Reminds me of my favorite looking brake the piccolo.
    Super cool setup man. Thanks for the review 🙌

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +3

      They do look somewhat like the Piccola!

    • @Megabear90
      @Megabear90 10 місяців тому +2

      Tge designer of these brakes used to work at Trickstuff, so no mistery there

  • @jonk8916
    @jonk8916 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for covering these, I've been really interested in getting some impressions on them since I saw them released. Now I just need to wait for the next drop...
    How would you compare the freestroke to other brakes? Is it really long or do they start engaging pretty quickly when you pull the lever? Are you able to run the levers fairly close to the bar or do they require the levers to be pretty far out there?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Get those 3am alarms set! 😆
      I think Intend calls that "dead stroke", and these have an incredibly short one, probably industry leading. I like running my brakes quite far away and having them bite immediately, but I'd assume you could dial in the reach adjustment screw and have them bite much closer to the bar. I'll give it a shot sometime.

    • @jonk8916
      @jonk8916 10 місяців тому

      @@DaleStone Thanks for the reply, I like the term "dead stroke" a lot more, it's good to know it's short. I really dislike how far out some brakes have to be run because there is so much useless stroke in them, it's one of the main things driving me to certain brakes over others.
      Now just to wait for their next drop :) Thanks again.

  • @mtbboy1993
    @mtbboy1993 10 місяців тому +1

    5:04 Which temps? does that include -10C? ( I ride that often as I live in Norway) -20C or below? It even got down to -23C. but I was feeling too bad to ride anyway, so did not get to test it. but that's brutal probably would need better glove solution for that.
    With Formula Cura 4 and Formula mineral oil it works in -10C but gets woody and more sensitive. I asked Trickstuff what their brakes can do, they the brakes will perform great down to -15 C with Bionol.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      So far only down to -5 as it hasn't gotten any colder here this winter, but there were no signs of any change. Intend's website claims -20! 🙂

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone sounds promising. I know you mentioned the oil used, but no idea how to spell it.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Putoline 2.5w I believe.

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 10 місяців тому

      @@DaleStone I forgot about this oil, I see it's a fork oil too. Easy to get. I read good this, but is this as dangerous as Dot? I will look into this. I want least dangerous, toxcc options.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      @@mtbboy1993 it's a mineral oil, used for softening baby's bottoms. 🙂

  • @WRXDannyW
    @WRXDannyW 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi Dale, great review, they do sound and look like really great quality brakes. I used the Hayes mag circa 2001 up until about 7 years ago and exclusively Hope Tech 3 v4s since then. One of the cool things about those, that I had no idea about before buying them, is independent adjustments for reach and bite point. Not sure if I could switch to another set of brakes w/o that now.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      That's definitely a nice feature, more adjustability is usually a very good thing if it's reliably designed!

    • @Finnspin_unicycles
      @Finnspin_unicycles 10 місяців тому

      Opposite experience of me then. I have tech 3 e4s that I bought because of the adjustability (and spare parts availability). After playing around with them, I came to the conclusion that the only place where I want the bite point adjustment to be is all the way in. And I can't imagine that I'd ever want anything else than as little empty lever travel as possible, so that feature has been dropped of the requirement list.

    • @WRXDannyW
      @WRXDannyW 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Finnspin_unicycles Yes you are right, but once you have more than one wheel set it’s got a use case. Even with identical rotors and hubs the geometry is not identical and so I use it all the time to account for the small changes on a wheel swap.

  • @actually_a_moth
    @actually_a_moth 10 місяців тому +5

    DALE WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME YOU LOOK SO GOOD.

    • @Cajo22
      @Cajo22 10 місяців тому +2

      😂😂

  • @DustyBrushy
    @DustyBrushy 10 місяців тому +1

    Solid review and some really sweet tech in those. The visual style of those levers really reminds me of Paul's Components' Love Levers from back in the day. Does that mention of quirks and features at the beginning of the video mean that Dale is the type of guy to watch Doug DeMuro?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      I secretly filmed this with two layered t-shirts.

  • @paul.p.smellthetruth2667
    @paul.p.smellthetruth2667 10 місяців тому +1

    Everybody who can should try their forks too. Ignore old reviews from years ago. Their forls are even far better. Such high Quality of production, reliability, Sensitivity, very supportive, easy to work on, spare parts are cheap in case of crashes, sealings etc are standard and their Service is sublime.
    So the Initial peice can be ignored as you invest in highwnd Performance and low longtime costs.
    PS at every Service the newest Updates will be installed for free
    The same probably goes for the damper. But I have not bought it, YET. And I am Sure it will keep up wirh a ViVid but only weighs around 430 grams.

  • @Phil231087
    @Phil231087 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey Dale, a short info about Cornelius, intend and Trickstuff. Cornelius worked in the past for Trickstuff and was part of the team they invented the Direttisima and the Piccola brakes😉
    I rode by myself an Intend Hero on my bike. If you have the possibility to ride an Intend fork, do it. These forks a great.
    Kind regards from Germany
    Phil 😊🤙🏻

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the clarification Phil, it's a small world in the bike industry haha.

  • @fivetool
    @fivetool 10 місяців тому +2

    Awesome content, Dale. Very informative.

  • @DieterVanHolder
    @DieterVanHolder 10 місяців тому +2

    Why and how are they so much easier to bleed? I run Shimano 4 pots myself and never found it to be very difficult. Genuinely interested

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      My understanding is that there are no dead spots inside the hydraulic circuit for air to get stuck in. I'm also used to Shimano and these are way quicker to do a full bleed on. Intend has a great video demonstrating how easy these are to bleed.

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@DaleStoneI use Shimano. You can bleed them relatively easily by just pushing a full syringe of oil through the system from the caliper to the lever and into the bleed funnel.
      This is not the official way, but this worked every time on my bikes.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      I've heard of this trick before, but I've never personally tried it as I've heard mixed (but mostly positive) results. Will try it next time!

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 10 місяців тому +2

      @@DaleStone on my Shimanos it works fine, even if you have air inside because of a lever swap or if you replaced a caliper.
      What some people do additionally is pre filling the syringe sone time before, to let very small air bubbles gasing out of the oil. If you pull up the syringe you can sometimes see small bubbles inside the oil.
      I haven't done this yet since the result was fine without it.

    • @DieterVanHolder
      @DieterVanHolder 10 місяців тому +1

      @@simonm1447 this is how I bleed mine as well. Container at the lever and then pushing through a syringe full of fresh oil or sometimes up to two full ones until the oil becomes clear and bubble free. Only takes a handful of minutes and simply works. Hence my amazement at claims of being so much easier. At the end of the day, every hydraulic brake system is simply about flushing and refreshing the oil no?

  • @driftedkart2593
    @driftedkart2593 10 місяців тому +1

    I started out on sram g2’s and thought they were ok at best, they faded easily and weren’t the best looking. Ended up swapping out for TRP E.2.3’s and they are SO much better, like you were saying about the trinitys, they’re stylish, mad grippy, and there’s never ending braking on them. Granted they are E-bike specific brakes on my trail bike, but still.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like a great option!

  • @Ceriva09
    @Ceriva09 10 місяців тому +3

    we definetly need more dale scales. 😅

  • @bldavis36
    @bldavis36 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice review. Sounds like great brakes.
    Also... "quirks and features!" Someone's been listening to Doug DeMuro!

  • @bulbobu
    @bulbobu 5 місяців тому +1

    @Dalestone I'm now using these brakes and they are super nice. Do you find that once the pads hit the rotor it feels a little spongey? Like the wall you hit is not as firm as Shimano brakes. Or perhaps mine need more bleeding?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  4 місяці тому +1

      This sounds like a bleeding issue to me. I'm ~1200km in on the original pads and haven't had any issues like that so far!

  • @KurtisPape
    @KurtisPape 10 місяців тому +1

    The invisibly rating got me thinking, I have a few sets of brakes i'm constantly thinking about 😅 After hard braking with my shimano's the pistons don't retract and I get rotor rub so I have to pump the brakes for it to go away, I have a set of sram force brakes on my gravel bike and I have to squeeze the lever so damn hard to get any kind of power, then I have a set of TRP brakes that keep going out of adjustment and I have turn the bite point mid ride.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Sounds like it's time to move away from the big-ish 3, haha.

  • @camerond9941
    @camerond9941 10 місяців тому +1

    im curious as to how the levers hold up for crashes. I have the Trickstuff Piccolas which are nearly identical to those, but they have carbon levers which are garbage. They are as brittle s breadsticks and ive broken more than id like to admit.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      I know of three sets in existence around here and none of us have had any crash-related issues so far. Not exactly the world's biggest sample size though, haha.

    • @camerond9941
      @camerond9941 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone glad to hear, if they do hold up better I may have to make the switch

  • @lexusstefan927
    @lexusstefan927 10 місяців тому +1

    How do they compare to some Hope V4 brakes is what id like to know, so far anything Hope i got has been well priced, beautifully built, incredibly reliable and super easily serviceable

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      I don't remember exactly which models I've tried, but I've usually been left feeling underwhelmed by Hopes. This could easily be down to inconsistent bleeds.

  • @Frombie_01
    @Frombie_01 10 місяців тому +1

    That was a brilliant review, well done.

  • @workfromloam
    @workfromloam 10 місяців тому +2

    Comparison with the Hayes Dominion A4's?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      It's been a couple of years since I last rode those on-trail but I remember they were solid. I don't think they had quite the same ability to reduce rider fatigue as these Intends and bleeding was more challenging. I believe they were certainly better than average performers though... maybe it's time to find a set to properly review!

  • @DrivingMatterMedia
    @DrivingMatterMedia 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the insights, too bad you didn't order their caliper adapter (+20 or +40 postmount offset). I'm using just the adapter with my XT8120's and it makes the caliper position stronger and better aligned. It reduced the noise in wet conditions and improves on pad wear, they wear down very evenly now.
    Having such a high end caliper you must want to have the best possible alignment on frame and rotor as well...

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      There's a bit of misinformation to unpack here. Firstly a post mount spacer won't give you any better alignment, if anything it could make it worse as it introduces another source of error in the tolerance stack. A larger rotor will indeed give you more powerful brakes and better thermal efficiency, but if you don't need the extra power (because you weigh 62kg) then it's just additional weight and complexity that isn't needed. 🙂

    • @DrivingMatterMedia
      @DrivingMatterMedia 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone but you’re using a shimano +40mm postmount adapter from what i can see in the video? Intend makes their own blackline adapter which is made to much nicer tolerances and a nicer placement of the caliper, requiring less offset on top of the fork’s postmount interface.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      I follow now haha, thanks. On the front I'm using a 180-203 (+23) Shimano adapter. I have no doubt the Intend adapter is better quality, more accurate, and a lower "offset" distance, but I've never had any alignment or performance issues with this one I found in my closet. If I needed to purchase an adapter I would definitely consider a nicer Intend one for just about any bike, especially once you start getting into the +40 range.

  • @sans_2031
    @sans_2031 10 місяців тому +1

    Amazing review! Love your channel!

  • @ChrisAkAxTr3Me
    @ChrisAkAxTr3Me 10 місяців тому +1

    I ride them since last summer and they are just great.

  • @AC-sr3pb
    @AC-sr3pb 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome review, and I got to enjoy some of the lovely Trunk Monkey.

  • @troyesch6203
    @troyesch6203 10 місяців тому +1

    Great review although I won’t likely ever be spending that kind of money on brakes. I like your review style. Subscribed.

  • @mdtk98
    @mdtk98 4 місяці тому

    Great review! Just found your channel. It seems like you are carrying over Doug Demuro’s review format. Is that the case? I’m hearing a lot of parallels - “Quirks and features” and “Dale Scale” is just like the “Doug Score”. You definitely have your own style and your POV riding is awesome! Looking forward to more reviews.

  • @jeffstreck
    @jeffstreck 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm annoyed that I just found this channel exists. I'm also delighted because now I have a lot to go back and watch.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      To be fair, this is my first video (of many in the future) like this haha. Stay tuned! 😁

    • @jeffstreck
      @jeffstreck 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone Honestly it's not the content (which is great don't get me wrong). It's your attitude and the way you communicate. I'm a big believer that bikes are supposed to be fun.

  • @clarencenewby716
    @clarencenewby716 10 місяців тому +1

    Dave Demuro: I will have your rear! Great review!

  • @mbelfry
    @mbelfry 10 місяців тому +1

    A fantastic review and rating from Dale DeMuro !

  • @koenvanniekerk4231
    @koenvanniekerk4231 10 місяців тому

    Do you happen to have a design background? The way you use seemingly standard spreadsheet SW produce your good looking scale is pretty cool and resourceful

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      I have a degree in Mech Eng. 🙂

  • @BogdanMiliu
    @BogdanMiliu 10 місяців тому +1

    Dale … would you say these pack as much power or more than the saints but with bettter modulation?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      It's been a while since I've tried Saints, but Shimano claims they have the same power as XT/XTR which I know well. I think these Trinities do have more power for how much you have to squeeze the lever, and are probably a bit more intuitive to modulate.

    • @BogdanMiliu
      @BogdanMiliu 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone thanks for the reply Dale! That’s great to hear. I used to have the XTR 4pistons a couple years ago but unfortunately both he front and rear callipers failed (leaky pistons) and beeen running the Code RSC with after market pads and 220/200 rotors but as a large rider (260 lbs) you can’t have enough brake power. Been debating the Maximas but these have me very intrigued.

  • @david029014
    @david029014 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow these brakes have to be good for what and how you ride! Great skills! Nice views!

  • @Emolokz
    @Emolokz 2 місяці тому +1

    I love how you've taken the Doug DeMuro approach to these comparisons.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  2 місяці тому +2

      It's a great way to produce easy to consume review content!

    • @Emolokz
      @Emolokz 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DaleStone it truly is!

  • @davidlimentani1830
    @davidlimentani1830 9 місяців тому +1

    what trail(s) you riding here? also what kind of shock you running on the claymore?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  9 місяців тому +1

      A mix of trails around Vancouver. I'm running a DHX2, which works just fine although Fox is not a fan haha.

  • @mikatrost2283
    @mikatrost2283 10 місяців тому +4

    10:17 As a german I would love to know if our toiletpaper is as efficient a we are

  • @jaredhileman4111
    @jaredhileman4111 10 місяців тому

    Those look nice. I have a set of Trickstuff Picccola Carbon on my XC bike. They are the lightest and strongest brakes I have ever seen. Have you compared the Intend to the Trickstuff?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      I've parking lot tested the Maximas a handful of times, and they are a bit more on-off than these. Where Intend really shines is in the details, specifically their painless bleed. Would be fun to try the Piccola's someday!

  • @SuperIdol-x7z
    @SuperIdol-x7z 10 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely an awesome vid! Next up could you review some budget-oriented brakes such as the mt520s or mt420s? Just to see the difference between $1300 and $300 brakes.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      I just finished a script for the 520s quite literally 12 hours ago. 🤐😉

  • @roddas26
    @roddas26 10 місяців тому +1

    Those trails looked insanely fun 😁

  • @MrNugsy
    @MrNugsy 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi Dale, what pads are you finding work best in theses brakes?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  2 місяці тому +2

      I'm still using the stock pads >1700km in, they're great!

  • @HardtailLife
    @HardtailLife 10 місяців тому +1

    Congrats on hitting 100K! 🎉

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Steve! 🥳

  • @roryennis96943
    @roryennis96943 7 місяців тому

    lol it suddenly dawned on me why dale hangs out with a herd of golden retrievers…makes so much sense I don’t know why I didn’t see that earlier. Loving the new formats and in depth reviews, brakes look super cool but there were a couple of reasons why I will stick to my shimanos on both my bikes for parts availability until Intend becomes a little more common to source for parts. But that said I find them super cool and can’t wait to see what the future holds for that company.

  • @skinnyboybiking
    @skinnyboybiking 10 місяців тому +1

    I really liked the layout of this video, do you think you will do more like it in the future?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      If this video ends up performing well, then absolutely!

  • @glen3509
    @glen3509 10 місяців тому

    The levers, are they 7075 aluminum or 3/2.5 Titanium?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Aluminum I believe

    • @glen3509
      @glen3509 10 місяців тому

      @@DaleStone I'm still using 739 Shimano XT V-Brake levers from 2006 and XT 760 V-Brakes from 2007. They work, so no upgrading right now👍👍

  • @BermUnit
    @BermUnit 10 місяців тому +1

    the local roasts in the questions are the best 😂

  • @daltonknapton
    @daltonknapton 10 місяців тому +2

    I envy your ability to try outside the norm parts. I'm having trouble just pulling the trigger on going to Hayes from Sram brakes 😂

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +3

      The good news is that you can almost literally only go up! 😆

    • @daltonknapton
      @daltonknapton 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone this is true 🤣

    • @tedgore5365
      @tedgore5365 10 місяців тому +2

      Hayes Dominion A4's are amazing brakes!

    • @daltonknapton
      @daltonknapton 10 місяців тому

      @@tedgore5365 so I have heard!

  • @alenm7826
    @alenm7826 10 місяців тому +1

    Came for the review, stayed for the riding 🙌

  • @Ynot_Ride
    @Ynot_Ride 10 місяців тому +1

    have you tested Trickstuff MAXIMA?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      I've tried them 3 or 4 times in parking lots around the world. The Maximas have a slightly more on/off feel, but the performance feels very similar to these Intends. Where the Intends win is in all of the small details like bleeding, rotating hoses, etc.

  • @glen3509
    @glen3509 10 місяців тому +1

    Is that a
    💰500.00🍁5Dev 6/4 Titanium stem?

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      It sure is! 🔥

    • @glen3509
      @glen3509 10 місяців тому

      @DaleStone Very cool🤘🤘. I'll have to keep using my $141.00 130mm 5 degree rise 7000 series aluminum Thomson Elite stem😁👍👍

  • @heyimamaker
    @heyimamaker 10 місяців тому +1

    Your channel is at 278k! When did you hit 100k?
    These look awesome, the best brakes I had were Hope Mono M4, but they were the absolute worst to service and work on.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Recently enough that I still haven't made a cliche thank you video. 😆

    • @heyimamaker
      @heyimamaker 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DaleStone well congrats! You obviously did something right to reach 100k then explode to nearly 300k!

  • @86309
    @86309 10 місяців тому

    Just an off the topic comment, see how far forward your saddle is to get you into the right position? The seat tube angle required for the geo is just silly. Look at Polè, that is precisely why their 80 degree seat tube is awesome and sets you front center (along with all the rest of the dialed geo) so much better than the slack seat tubes(which by the way get even slacker and as you go uphill, and also put lots of force into the dropper. Great job on the brake review, right now im liking my DHR EVO with 2.3 rotor width.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Two things:
      1. This bike has a very modern 78° ESTA, which is far better than the average these days and not exactly slack haha.
      2. The saddle position is a reflection of how steep the roads are around here. If the grades on my average ride were shallower then I'd move it back to the middle for sure.

    • @86309
      @86309 10 місяців тому +1

      copy, @@DaleStone

  • @david029014
    @david029014 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video! Subscribed keep up the great work

  • @zeberoni9637
    @zeberoni9637 Місяць тому +1

    i actually love the packaging. who wouldnt put that TP to use?! zero waste

  • @ninjazzrhythm400
    @ninjazzrhythm400 10 місяців тому

    In my opinion, the best brake is how you feel about it while riding. All DH brakes are more than powerful for any type riding that anyone needs. For me, I prefer the feel of Sram Code but I used DOT 5.1 prestone. I dont have the squeegee spongy that everyone is feeling. What I love about the Sram code, you can fully service it and overhaul the whole brake set. If Hayes dominion A4 have kits to rebuild it, it would have been #1 for sure.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      Personal preference is definitely a factor, but saying that "all DH brakes are more than powerful for any type of riding" is not true. A good set of brakes can make the difference between riding a feature clean and crashing on it, or making it to the end of a stage/run and having to stop to rest your hands/arms.

  • @on1ytheb3st
    @on1ytheb3st 10 місяців тому

    What is your camera setup for those riding clips if you don't mind me asking? Very crisp at times!

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      OA3 on full face chin

    • @on1ytheb3st
      @on1ytheb3st 10 місяців тому

      @@DaleStone I'm blown away by some of the perspective in your video. It definitely conveys the steepness which I've had trouble with GoPros doing in the past. And I ride steep trails too, 40-50% grade at sections.

  • @Boarischer_Bua
    @Boarischer_Bua 10 місяців тому +6

    Cornelius was engineer at Trickstuff, so he knows a little bit about breaks😉. His name is typically Bavarian, especially his surname.

  • @joekawasaki
    @joekawasaki 10 місяців тому +1

    T10 is included on all but the smallest lezyne v pro multitools & I'm sure many others!

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      It seems to be more popular in Europe than North America haha. Topeak and crank brothers have came up a few times, but my reference points are One Up, Specialized and Bontrager (as they're probably the majority of the marketshare around here). Definitely not impossible to find, thankfully. 🙂

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +2

      also TIL Lezyne is in Nevada. 🤯

  • @janeblogs324
    @janeblogs324 10 місяців тому +1

    "Powerful" brakes aka high piston force is easy to make, the piston sizes differential between lever and calipers provides the distance for force equation. You will trade off brake levers feel/sensitivity and make slowing and not locking up harder. What matters is force ramp up and even pad pressing

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      What really matters is intuition, consistency, durability, etc.

  • @pibblesnbits
    @pibblesnbits 10 місяців тому

    I have ridden Avid BB7, Avid Juicy 7, SRAM CODE RSC, Tektro hydraulics, shimano ZEE hydraulics, and hope brakes. I have been riding for decades. Love BB7 was great for XC back in the day. Juicy 7 was noisy. Code RSC was all around decent. The shimano Zee and over shimano hydraulics were always a tad spongy no matter how much they were bled. The hopes were most expensive, a tad difficult to tune but once tuned were the most kickbutt of the bunch. At this point the brakes in this video are cool and quite niche but offer nothing to someone who can bleed/tune their own brakes as a similar outcome can be attained with cheaper options and some skills.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      I was with you all the way until the last sentence. There is just no way to copy the exact feel of these brakes from a completely unrelated design through tuning. And regardless of how good you are at bleeding other brands, with practice these will always be faster. 🙂

  • @heinzhaupthaar5590
    @heinzhaupthaar5590 3 місяці тому +1

    Easiest to bleed will always be Grimeca. You just don't.
    Because you don't have to. Just empty them in a bucket and refill through the reservoir.
    In general use top up the reservoir, pump, top up again - done.
    Only break I've never had a single problem with over eight years of heavy use.
    The set is still being used daily and didn't need a single spare part after 20 years, still work like they did in the first year - they just look utterly broken.
    I'd even pay two grand for something as good as them in modern because it'd be the last set I buy and the last time I'd have to do break maintenance.
    Best bike product I've ever bought.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  3 місяці тому +2

      That is very impressive. I would say these Trinities are almost as easy as that honestly, haven't touched mine in over 1500km!

    • @heinzhaupthaar5590
      @heinzhaupthaar5590 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DaleStone
      Invisible sums up what I'm looking for very well, great idea to add it as seperate category.
      I've been trying to get one for that very reason. I've come to expect high reliability due to good engineering, no corners cut and actual innovation from Intend.
      Might be a streak of bad luck, but I've had so much trouble with major brand components in the recent past, I really don't want to feel like a beta tester again if possible.
      Anyway, I wasn't as lucky as you yet.
      Or rather just not as diligent.
      I guess I'll intensify my efforts, good work on the review.

  • @thetrailnomad
    @thetrailnomad 10 місяців тому +1

    I have a video coming comparing them directly to the Trickstuff Maxima. So far the TNT (that's what we already call them here in Germany) outperform the MXA by a bit.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      Interesting! I'll have to give it a watch. I've never owned the MXA personally, but my understanding was that the performance on trail is similar, it's in the details where the TNTs shine.

    • @thetrailnomad
      @thetrailnomad 10 місяців тому +1

      The MXA have good details too. :D@@DaleStone

  • @dougfresch513
    @dougfresch513 6 місяців тому +1

    OK, I watched this whole video waiting for the chart with all the different brakes on it because I want to see the comparison between these and the hayes dominion A4’s but I guess you haven’t got the warranty replacement yet

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  6 місяців тому +2

      I actually just received them two days ago! Currently testing another brake set, so I would expect the Hayes part 2 video to come out probably in July. 🙂

  • @justanothernoobe
    @justanothernoobe 10 місяців тому +1

    The Intend USD forks had / have so much potential - it was a shame they didn't get enough interest to support a more realistic price-point. I see that these brakes are similarly highly priced ... hopefully they don't suffer the same fate as the forks.

    • @DaleStone
      @DaleStone  10 місяців тому +1

      It seems to all be a very deliberate business decision to avoid getting too big too fast. From that perspective I get it, but I also think that Intend is too conservative in that thinking!