Thanks for the kind words and your ongoing support. The drive section on the channelstrip is a fixed value that you can drive more or less with the trim knob. Looking forward to hearing more great music coming from this channel. -Nathan
Thank you for taking the time to respond by the way! It's great to hear that the drive section on the channel strip is adjustable with the trim knob. Your clarification is helpful for those who may not have been aware of this feature. I also appreciate your kind words and ongoing support for this channel, and I look forward to sharing more great music with you and Harrison Consoles. 😊
Same! I guess they are in bed with Protools is what it is, so they came up with the very underwhelming SSL 360 plugin mixer. Looks cool but does nothing special. Harrison right now has the market on lockdown. They are the only console manufacturer with their own DAW. UAD Luna tried to steal Harrison's thunder, and it requires an apollo or other UAD hardware to use it. Instant fail to me haha. Harrison Mixbus 32C is one of a kind.
I'm on mixbus 8.2 at my home studio. I use a mini PC connected to a 20" touchscreen monitor. With the monitor leaned back on the desk I get the feel on a console and can move faders and knobs without a mouse. I make my midi and audio tracks in sonar x3
Upgraded from v7 last night. Skipped past v8 and straight to v9. 👍🏽 I’ll reset some graphical things and play around for a few hours. Thanks for the video.
I was excited to see this video! I was like wow this dude didn't waste any time making this video. Great to see another fellow MB user ! Great video man !!😎😎😎
Great stuff man! I upgraded this morning and am loving it. A lot of plugins just got put to bed lol. For anyone looking for mixing headphones, another great option to mix on is the beyerdynamic DT 990 pros. They are relatively inexpensive and sound great.
Yeah I was looking for those, and Guitar Center said they don't carry that brand anymore, so I went to a Best Buy to see if they had it because they did on the website, but they only had 1 pair of Sennheiser HS560S. So, I went with that because I heard good things of that as well, and it is good, so I am happy with the purchase, but I do still want the Beyerdynamics.
Love it mate. Just taught me a shed load. I'll send you a tune you can mess with. I've mixed it but I'll send you the RAW stems. Be nice to see the different colours you can bring.. How to send?
Thank you brother for making such an extensive vid. Something always drew me to Mixbus and I'm def going to make this purchase and a really beautiful software. I'm surprised more people are not talking about this. Can you tell me how to color code the entire channel strip?
yep seriously hands down at least for the Analog community, live studio recordings via real instruments but we know the electronic digital dance sample editing community will probably stay with what they already use , many have no idea of the true feel of analog. and mixbus gives you that they had stepped up for digital production but i'm telling you my drum tracks alone have never been better even without plug ins
It's too bad for them too. Because I feel like the classic dance tracks that were all done with analog gear sound much better than what they're doing today.
Sup maeng i will let Harrison Mixbus support that you influenced me to get V9 today. Broooo wowwww. I finished my V8 mix in V9 today. It doesn't really add more CPU power. Same power ❤❤❤❤
@@vigilantestylez I use this one plugin from Waves called Tonecentric on 4 Mixbus instead of using Mixbus compressor. Next time, I can drop it and just use Mixbus 32c compressor. Now that we can control the compressor, now we have gate/expander. I still use 3rd party verb and delay and phaser.
You responded the same when I saw V9! This fixes all my complaints of 23c or any Daw, especially I could not read the screen. On mixbuss 7 now for stem mixin with video support an can barley see that as it is. Still not happy with wave editing in v7 (use studio one) so we will see with this.
Yeah, I have mess with preferences to make everything the size that works best for me, but it's worth it. Yeah, I am not familiar much with the editing yet. I normally mix tracks that are already edited, so I just drop in and start mixing.
The Harrison De-Esser is quite good IMHO. I do wish the native Harrison AVA plugins (especially the ones NOT included in the standard 32C Channel or Bus strip, like the de-esser. 'bass-flow', 'vocal flow', etc.) integrated better (i.e. at all!!!) into the 32C channel strips, but hey; maybe that's just me.
Thanks the Video looks clear now great. Harrison Mixbus for me is # 1. I work with studio one and cubase but i always go back to Harrison mixbus 32c . and now with # V9 IS even better thanks Vigilante.
Same! I keep coming back to Harrison Mixbus 32C for a reason. 😊 Thanks for checking out the video as soon as I uploaded it, but yeah it takes about 2 hours for the HD version to process.
I own a previous version and really want to use it, but I can't mix without region fx... What do you do if there is a word or syllable that needs some corrective EQ? Doing too much corrective EQ with an insert plugin can kill the tone quickly. Looking forward to getting back on board once they added region fx.
I do the best I can with what I have. There are times where I get some horrible tracks, and I tend to do a mix preparation session just to get things to a point where I can finally mix them. Usually using Izotope RX to clean the tracks up, but man is it time consuming! When in Harrison Mixbus, I try to not use plugins, and just use what they give. This video here is a little bit older, so I have changed some things with my workflow since, and just trust that I can get the sound with Harrison Mixbus. 😎🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
Question: I'm using Mixbus32C v9, and the SSL12 interface. I am having MAJOR issues. I must be doing something wrong, but: No matter what I do, it seems like there's a direct pipeline from the input of the SSL12, to the input track (NOT channel in the mixer, but the recording track.) Even if I shut everything off in the Mixbus channel (fader off, no master enabled, no mixbusses sending) I still get signal. It's like I"m getting the channel signal AND the direct signal from the audio device. (I also hear latency flanging, which sounds like 2 audio signals, so that kinda confirms it.) Anyone have any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
I am guessing it is not yet compatible with the SSL hardware. Version 10 coming soon should be since this will be the first version of Mixbus that would be done in collaboration with SSL, since SSL now owns Harrison Consoles.
I’m happy everyone is happy with the new Harrison ford mix bus! For me it looks a bit to Linux! I’m sure it sounds fiyah tho! I really need beautiful graphics! I liked the look of the ssl mixer plug-in thing. Hmm, that said I only use stuff I have used for years. Getting familiar with something new, takes so long.
It looks good! I am not really into having millions of plugins. I use reason ssl and the built in stuff. Less options. I use a few bits of 3rd party stuff. But it’s a rabbit hole. Most people will probably benefit from just using Harrison mix bus. And avoiding all the endless plug-in bs.
Absolutely. I get so much spam from Waves about another sale, and I am tired of giving them my money. I'm tired of their update plan, and I just want a professional mixing environment that gives me a pro sound, intuitive workflow, and a consistent amazing result. There are so many gimmicky plugins out there nowadays to part people from their money, and as they learn how to mix, and as they grow in their craft, they eventually end their journey on something like this when they realize they never needed all that other crap, they just needed a good, solid piece of gear, in this case a virtual mixing console DAW, and that's it.
@@vigilantestylez yea. I think that it was companies like korg that were the first, or at least early adopters of component modelling. Way way back when korg released the legacy collection, those emulations modelled the components of the monopoly and poly six. When you use the workstations they come with multi fxs processors. For instance my kross 2 has 70 different effects. A lot of them are modelled emulations of classic eq’s and compressors. It’s a hard thing really. What do we do? Do we use the specific compressor in the circumstance that is the best? And mix using multiple compressors or even many. Matching up maybe dbx 266 on bass and Urei on vocals? Or do we just use the one we have at hand? Luckily in reason I only have 5 compressors. While the mc dsp sound fantastic, a lot of time I just reach for the ssl dynamics, because if I just want a keyboard part to sound harder, it’s enough. Maybe if it’s a big sound that is the focus of the song, I will use the McDsp cr670 or something. I wouldn’t feel like I was missing out if I could t tho. I always feel like it’s a trade off. Sure some plugins sound amazing, but in the time it takes to find audition, buy and master, in the basic tools, one may have made a load of more music. Also the simpler and basic I keep things. Well for instance, at times I have reached for a different compressor, when really the problem was my settings were wrong, or some other area of the mix that was wrong.
I've used Mixbus since 2012 I think... this is the biggest upgrade so far, by far. I was like you, hoping it had that Virtual Gain thing like the Bx console plugins 🤣 It's awesome anyway.
@@vigilantestylez yeah well, you already know what i mean, its just yes! pretty much, you know all those tunes that need to be done over time? well, that's the way now, so its just really enjoying doing that on a solid system you can lean on for that, just vibes and feels and they are all good. the drive and the comp updates make a massive difference, just solid as magic.
oh and excuse my muso vibes, ha, was on a jam lost in the tunes, I forgot to say that tune your working on sounds good bro, best with everything and enjoy the music.
oh bro, quickly, did we loose our stereo width on the busses? just how wide the field is, must be hiding, guess I can plugin anyway, but that was handy
@@jeramiahrossnz thanks brotha! I appreciate the kind words on the music! 😊 Yeah, I don't think we lost stereo width on the busses. I was able to pan some hats and I had them run through the bus. So it is stereo, but I don't know if they had a stereo widener on the busses before. I don't see one now tho.
How do you get your dsp so low? I'm running around the same latency w/ an I7 and all the bells and whistles. My dsp still runs around 30-40% with only a few tracks.
cool review man, is there a way to unlink the eq, gate, comp selector between the channels, groups, sends and master? even better unlink ever single channel?? because im finding myself switching the modes far to often than i will like, for example, when i need to eq a couple of channels and at the same time i need an eye on the compressors or tape saturation on the groups to do slight changes on the fly...(im more focused in a live situation where i have tracks, loops, drum machine, synth, etc, routed straight to the channels in mixbuss)... i am missing that setting somewhere? maybe is a small thing... but i feel restricted somehow when im in the flow with a live setup to the point it gets kind of annoying.
I am thinking monitor size perhaps a 4K monitor to do that, so that you can have the whole channel strip visible, because I do not know if you can unlink them.
@@vigilantestylez I found a workaround...not ideal...but works for me, with out switching back to comp mode while im staying in sends mode, i can always go to the chanel in question or group, right click the channelstrip `comp or eq´ go to inline controls, click show `show all´ or the ones i want for direct access and that's it... i don't have to keep clicking to switch between modes if i want a slight change with the mouse on the fly and i can keep my third eye on the settings so i don't have to use my very bad memory to remember which settings i have...because i never remember and then i start to get nervous... Before i was using Ableton to do the mixing in a live situation, with 4 Traktor channels routed in, a stereo channel for NI Machine to, using channels with loops and efx sends from ableton, channels with synths, etc etc...now i just root everything in separate channels and groups in Mixbuss saving me all the VST´s i used to use to make everything sound good and gel in Ableton...saving me between 35% and 45% in CPU resources because i can get everything sound and gel so much better in Mixbuss without additional plugins.
@@vigilantestylez this morning i suddenly realize there are this things called...manuals🤯🤯...so yhea, im glad that my reading of the morning could help some else somehow 👍
Vigilante, I always thought pro tools sounded amazing. But I hate using it as it was clunky. I do thing a lot of great mixes have been made in pro tools tho! Also, i think companies like Roland and korg have been making digital emulations for a long time. At least 30 years. When I use my hardware boards, I think the effects and chorus etc and compressors sound so good. Full of character. Sort of they make a compressor or effect that just works with keyboard synth sounds really well. I have synthesisers that use complicated circuit modelling and emulation. But they just don’t sound as good as my older sh201 which used far more crude virtual analog design. Can it be true that some of the older basic eq’s and compressors that didn’t use advanced designs, still just sounded good?
Protools doesn't really have a sound, but maybe people like the way their plugins operate and sound in it because of the DSP and how that interacts with their AAX plugins. I have noticed the same plugin as AAX doesn't sound totally the same as the VST versions. Similar of course, but a tiny bit different, and I can't place why exactly. But there is a different kind of sound processing going on in protools, but to me, Harrison Mixbus 32C slays them all, but ofc I love the Harrison sound quality.
If we're talking about hardware, of course! Yeah classic gear sounds great and was simplistic in nature, but had great sounding transformers, tubes etc. Software, yeah that too. Some old plugins are coded well, and still do a good job in today's world. While I think the Metric Halo channel kind of sucks, Serban Ghenea still uses it, and wins grammy's with it, so its not a bad plugin, and its very old. The old waves SSL channel strips still sound great today, and even though its debatable if they really sound like a true SSL console, they still sounded good, and gave music a good vibe when the sounds were processed through them.
@@vigilantestylez right! Phil tan went from ssl to pro tools. He said it was mainly about convenience. He didn’t have time to set up the ssl desk and all the effects again to make one little change his clients would ask for three weeks later. Tbh eq and compression is a thing. But so is reverb, delay and chorus! And also automation! That’s the big one for me nowadays. As a little bit of automation fixes so many problems. Tho my opinion still is, all these tools. If the engineer is skilful, and the production is good, and the song has a life to it. Well, it’s huge getting all those steps in place. That said jimmy loops is 11 to 1 on buy beats. I didn’t even know he was using loops until you said. I just assumed as he got so much clout, he was playing all himself. I remember the days when loops were seen as an insult! Which makes me want to say. Maybe it’s just about getting the pay cheque, whatever that entails. Maybe integrity is a concept from a bygone age.
@@samheim253 The main reason why people like Phil Tan and Serban Ghenea went totally in the box is because they are mixing and not recording people. So, the tracks they are sent already have saturation, character etc, and all they have to do is balance the tracks, tighten them up a bit, and send it off to mastering. That was the point of the SSL console to begin with is that it was supposed to be a transparent sounding console with a good computer, and automation etc. Ofc over time the plugins got better, and now they have plugins of a lot of the gear they would have reached for in a mixing studio. Also, the mastering process was still analog, so there was no reason for the mixing process to have any analog flavor. But nowadays, recording is digital, mixing is digital, and mastering is digital, so using plugins that give some warmth, or to use a DAW that sounds like an analog console helps in the box users get a polished sound like they get in top-of-the-line studios.
Hey coolio……I’m thinking of making the upgrade from 7…..biggest issue for me is midi control from maschine mk3 and mackie mcu pro…(love that to death as old as it is)….is anyone familiar with this side of mixbus v 9
Coolio? He was a great hip hop artist RIP. Yeah, I don't use any hardware with it, I think those seem like MIDI controllers for composing music? It might work. In terms of a DAW controller for mixing, I have heard of some old Tascam unit that works well with Harrison Mixbus 32C, but idk if that same unit will work with the new v9 since they overhauled the mixer.
@@vigilantestylez thanks….midi functionality is big part of working in a Daw…..I found a few things in prefs….it’s big plus (32c) is that it’s a cool Daw to work in.
After the Dan worrell thing, I started to doubt Harrison, but got a new windows pc and didn’t have logic anymore to mix, so decided to re-install mixbus…now I’m a believer again it just sounds warm thick and pleasing..no cap.
@@vigilantestylez I love Harrison Mixbus32C. I’d be interested in a hybrid, where maybe you could choose between 32C, SSL 4000 & 9000 in each section. So 4000 EQ, 9000 comp, 32C gate, etc.
@@bnjmnwstthat sounds cool or they could release it as different DAWs, so they can focus more on the proper routing signal flow and DSP to sound and perform like a certain console. Otherwise we get CPU issues I think.
@@vigilantestylez I don't know. Maybe they just build each module as if it's a separate plug-in. Softube is already doing something like what I described with their Console 1 software, I believe. I don't think it's that difficult. They could just have a set of three presets, one for each unified console type. You choose 32C, you get the standard modules & signal path of a 32C. You choose an SSL 4000x, & you get the same for that board, etc. I think it's infinitely doable.
I have a question, when I have used Mixbus, it feels like the limiter is always on. Even when it seems like I’ve turned it off. Is that suppose to happen? And btw, V9 is really inspiring me to use and create in Mixbus. My only problem is when I bounce to export, it sounds really low.
It does leave headroom. I try to make sure that the output levels are just under 0db on the k-14 meter. Now, that will not be loud at all, but it is plenty of headroom for mastering. The mastering stage I do in a different DAW and make it loud. Right now I use BX Masterdesk to master my Harrison mixes, but I also have used Ozone of course. You can get it incredibly loud with Ozone. I tend to like quieter masters, so that the full range of sound is not being compromised. I tend to aim for AES recommendations of -1db headroom true peak, -16 LUFS. It's definitely "loud enough" but not so loud that there is smashing from limiters, and harshness introduced by over compression etc. But that kind of loudness might not work if you are sending this to a DJ who will play the music in the club up against other loud masters, and especially if that DJ just runs a playlist, and does no actual DJ-ing.
@@vigilantestylez ok, so I’m not the only one that noticed it. I do have T-Racks I can run it through. And i don’t mind doing it that way for mastering. Makes much more sense to separate the jobs anyway in different processes. And I have other mastering options as well. I really like the look and flow of this V9. It feels like they did a lot. My main DAW is Reason and they are not wanting to even become M1 native yet.
@@djsilent01 I have been curious about T-Racks mastering plugins. Have you compared them to ozone? I have been on the fence about T-Racks for a while, and I know they make solid plugins no doubt.
@@vigilantestylez im telling you, if anything, try there mixbox. That is worth it. All of t-racks doesn’t get enough love. I’ve been using it for years.
Illisible sur mes 2 écrans …..dommage ça me plaisait mais pas pour moi, de plus pas convaincu que c’est la daw qui sonne mais plutôt les convertisseurs
Thanks for the kind words and your ongoing support. The drive section on the channelstrip is a fixed value that you can drive more or less with the trim knob. Looking forward to hearing more great music coming from this channel.
-Nathan
Thank you for taking the time to respond by the way! It's great to hear that the drive section on the channel strip is adjustable with the trim knob. Your clarification is helpful for those who may not have been aware of this feature. I also appreciate your kind words and ongoing support for this channel, and I look forward to sharing more great music with you and Harrison Consoles. 😊
Also, we need to get that guitar collaboration going. 😎 Would love to hear you do a fabulous guitar solo on a cool synthwave beat I have in mind. 😊
It’s hard explaining Mixbus to people who haven’t tried it out. But this DAW never fails to impress me Harrison have given us a gem with v9
Absolutely! This is by far their best version!
This is all I needed. You did an amazing job, and the fact that you actually use it!
Thanks man! Yeah, I love it!
I got with Harrison on version 4. Turned out to be my favorite mixing and mastering DAW.
Thanks for this video.
Gratitude & Appreciation 💯
Great to hear! Yeah, I got on with version 6, and I been hooked ever since!
And I am totally shocked that SSL has not done this yet. And made their own mixing DAW.
Same! I guess they are in bed with Protools is what it is, so they came up with the very underwhelming SSL 360 plugin mixer. Looks cool but does nothing special. Harrison right now has the market on lockdown. They are the only console manufacturer with their own DAW. UAD Luna tried to steal Harrison's thunder, and it requires an apollo or other UAD hardware to use it. Instant fail to me haha. Harrison Mixbus 32C is one of a kind.
They tried .......
@@BlackGritsDoesIt when??
@@djsilent01 I think he means the SSL 360 plugin mixer.
@@djsilent01 Is was back in the early 2000s. No one wanted it.............
I'm on mixbus 8.2 at my home studio. I use a mini PC connected to a 20" touchscreen monitor. With the monitor leaned back on the desk I get the feel on a console and can move faders and knobs without a mouse. I make my midi and audio tracks in sonar x3
Ooh! That sounds like a fun setup!
Upgraded from v7 last night. Skipped past v8 and straight to v9. 👍🏽 I’ll reset some graphical things and play around for a few hours. Thanks for the video.
Yeah I was on v6 before this. V9 is worth it!
@@vigilantestylez V8 was worthless
@@keithfarrar-haygar-184 I will tell you v9 is everything. At least to me.
I upgraded yesterday from V7 to V9 skipped V8 and this version rock's specially the tape saturation is what motivated me to go the extra mile
You can get other compressor ratios by clicking where it says "leveler" and switching to the other compressor modes.
Absolutely. You are correct.
You're absolutely right this is the best DAW ever made by any company... I bought it today and it blew me out after I tried it cheers 🍻
Couldn't agree more!
I was excited to see this video! I was like wow this dude didn't waste any time making this video. Great to see another fellow MB user ! Great video man !!😎😎😎
Thanks! 😊 Haha yeah! I had to make a video the day I got it! 😂
Great stuff man! I upgraded this morning and am loving it. A lot of plugins just got put to bed lol. For anyone looking for mixing headphones, another great option to mix on is the beyerdynamic DT 990 pros. They are relatively inexpensive and sound great.
Yeah I was looking for those, and Guitar Center said they don't carry that brand anymore, so I went to a Best Buy to see if they had it because they did on the website, but they only had 1 pair of Sennheiser HS560S. So, I went with that because I heard good things of that as well, and it is good, so I am happy with the purchase, but I do still want the Beyerdynamics.
dt 880 pro are far better though for mixing
@@LaidbackSounds I've heard those are good too, but haven't had a chance to compare them to my 990's.
@@LaidbackSounds yeah I would like to get a pair. 😁😁
@@MarcKorte the 990s are cool but more hi-fi, the dt880s have more a neutral tone
Love it mate.
Just taught me a shed load.
I'll send you a tune you can mess with.
I've mixed it but I'll send you the RAW stems.
Be nice to see the different colours you can bring..
How to send?
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Thank you brother for making such an extensive vid. Something always drew me to Mixbus and I'm def going to make this purchase and a really beautiful software. I'm surprised more people are not talking about this. Can you tell me how to color code the entire channel strip?
That's a good question. I have seen other people do it, but I don't know how.. yet. I have been running the default theme.
@@vigilantestylez Ok, understood, I'll keep messing with it. Thank you
yep seriously hands down at least for the Analog community, live studio recordings via real instruments but we know the electronic digital dance sample editing community will probably stay with what they already use , many have no idea of the true feel of analog. and mixbus gives you that they had stepped up for digital production but i'm telling you my drum tracks alone have never been better even without plug ins
It's too bad for them too. Because I feel like the classic dance tracks that were all done with analog gear sound much better than what they're doing today.
Sup maeng i will let Harrison Mixbus support that you influenced me to get V9 today. Broooo wowwww. I finished my V8 mix in V9 today. It doesn't really add more CPU power. Same power ❤❤❤❤
Great to hear!
Thanks for letting them know I influenced you to get their product! It's a wonderful product! 😊
@@vigilantestylez I use this one plugin from Waves called Tonecentric on 4 Mixbus instead of using Mixbus compressor. Next time, I can drop it and just use Mixbus 32c compressor. Now that we can control the compressor, now we have gate/expander. I still use 3rd party verb and delay and phaser.
@@vigilantestylez I just emailed them.. Maybe they'll give you future vouchers for V10
@@audiolego Cool! Thanks! One can hope! 😊😊😊
You responded the same when I saw V9! This fixes all my complaints of 23c or any Daw, especially I could not read the screen. On mixbuss 7 now for stem mixin with video support an can barley see that as it is. Still not happy with wave editing in v7 (use studio one) so we will see with this.
Yeah, I have mess with preferences to make everything the size that works best for me, but it's worth it. Yeah, I am not familiar much with the editing yet. I normally mix tracks that are already edited, so I just drop in and start mixing.
The Harrison De-Esser is quite good IMHO. I do wish the native Harrison AVA plugins (especially the ones NOT included in the standard 32C Channel or Bus strip, like the de-esser. 'bass-flow', 'vocal flow', etc.) integrated better (i.e. at all!!!) into the 32C channel strips, but hey; maybe that's just me.
Thanks the Video looks clear now great. Harrison Mixbus for me is # 1. I work with studio one and cubase but i always go back to Harrison mixbus 32c . and now with # V9 IS even better thanks Vigilante.
Same! I keep coming back to Harrison Mixbus 32C for a reason. 😊 Thanks for checking out the video as soon as I uploaded it, but yeah it takes about 2 hours for the HD version to process.
What work you do in cubase and why you go to Harrison?
I own a previous version and really want to use it, but I can't mix without region fx... What do you do if there is a word or syllable that needs some corrective EQ? Doing too much corrective EQ with an insert plugin can kill the tone quickly. Looking forward to getting back on board once they added region fx.
I do the best I can with what I have. There are times where I get some horrible tracks, and I tend to do a mix preparation session just to get things to a point where I can finally mix them. Usually using Izotope RX to clean the tracks up, but man is it time consuming! When in Harrison Mixbus, I try to not use plugins, and just use what they give. This video here is a little bit older, so I have changed some things with my workflow since, and just trust that I can get the sound with Harrison Mixbus. 😎🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
@@vigilantestylez Good advice. Thank you.
Question: I'm using Mixbus32C v9, and the SSL12 interface. I am having MAJOR issues. I must be doing something wrong, but: No matter what I do, it seems like there's a direct pipeline from the input of the SSL12, to the input track (NOT channel in the mixer, but the recording track.) Even if I shut everything off in the Mixbus channel (fader off, no master enabled, no mixbusses sending) I still get signal. It's like I"m getting the channel signal AND the direct signal from the audio device. (I also hear latency flanging, which sounds like 2 audio signals, so that kinda confirms it.) Anyone have any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
I am guessing it is not yet compatible with the SSL hardware. Version 10 coming soon should be since this will be the first version of Mixbus that would be done in collaboration with SSL, since SSL now owns Harrison Consoles.
Wow I'm on 8.2. This is cool.
I’m happy everyone is happy with the new Harrison ford mix bus! For me it looks a bit to Linux! I’m sure it sounds fiyah tho! I really need beautiful graphics!
I liked the look of the ssl mixer plug-in thing. Hmm, that said I only use stuff I have used for years.
Getting familiar with something new, takes so long.
It looks good! I am not really into having millions of plugins. I use reason ssl and the built in stuff. Less options. I use a few bits of 3rd party stuff. But it’s a rabbit hole. Most people will probably benefit from just using Harrison mix bus. And avoiding all the endless plug-in bs.
Absolutely. I get so much spam from Waves about another sale, and I am tired of giving them my money. I'm tired of their update plan, and I just want a professional mixing environment that gives me a pro sound, intuitive workflow, and a consistent amazing result. There are so many gimmicky plugins out there nowadays to part people from their money, and as they learn how to mix, and as they grow in their craft, they eventually end their journey on something like this when they realize they never needed all that other crap, they just needed a good, solid piece of gear, in this case a virtual mixing console DAW, and that's it.
@@vigilantestylez yea.
I think that it was companies like korg that were the first, or at least early adopters of component modelling.
Way way back when korg released the legacy collection, those emulations modelled the components of the monopoly and poly six.
When you use the workstations they come with multi fxs processors. For instance my kross 2 has 70 different effects. A lot of them are modelled emulations of classic eq’s and compressors.
It’s a hard thing really. What do we do? Do we use the specific compressor in the circumstance that is the best? And mix using multiple compressors or even many. Matching up maybe dbx 266 on bass and Urei on vocals?
Or do we just use the one we have at hand?
Luckily in reason I only have 5 compressors.
While the mc dsp sound fantastic, a lot of time I just reach for the ssl dynamics, because if I just want a keyboard part to sound harder, it’s enough.
Maybe if it’s a big sound that is the focus of the song, I will use the McDsp cr670 or something.
I wouldn’t feel like I was missing out if I could t tho. I always feel like it’s a trade off.
Sure some plugins sound amazing, but in the time it takes to find audition, buy and master, in the basic tools, one may have made a load of more music. Also the simpler and basic I keep things. Well for instance, at times I have reached for a different compressor, when really the problem was my settings were wrong, or some other area of the mix that was wrong.
I've used Mixbus since 2012 I think... this is the biggest upgrade so far, by far. I was like you, hoping it had that Virtual Gain thing like the Bx console plugins 🤣 It's awesome anyway.
That's it! That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, the V-Gain! Man they really had me excited for a moment, but it's still a solid upgrade.
Love this!!!🌻
Thanks, my friend! 💯💯💯
The meters always showed something that seems to be noise
I’m not a big fan of v9, I feel the mixer features are way too scattered. But it’s a nice release.
Great video man😊
Thanks! 😊💯💯💯
I have the Mixbus 32c version 7,,,not sure if its worth an upgrade just yet
Drive on the channels, and a bus compressor is what did it for me.
Quastion: how to automate the fx parameters like on and off effect??
I haven't done it, so I don't know. Only automation I have done is fader automation, but that's it. I wish I knew.
Does anybody know if the mixer scenes are limited to only 8 scenes? I hope not!
It might be on this version. I don't use them, so I don't know unfortunately.
@@vigilantestylez I found out it's only 12 scenes max.
@@kitmateyawa7829 That makes sense.
😊 I Brought it 🎉🎉🎉
V10 is right around the corner already. This one will come with an SSL 9000 J EQ and Dolby Atmos. Really excited for this. 😊
bro, its so good :) that is all, happy as mixing all day, yeah :)
Same! This update is everything!
@@vigilantestylez yeah well, you already know what i mean, its just yes! pretty much, you know all those tunes that need to be done over time? well, that's the way now, so its just really enjoying doing that on a solid system you can lean on for that, just vibes and feels and they are all good. the drive and the comp updates make a massive difference, just solid as magic.
oh and excuse my muso vibes, ha, was on a jam lost in the tunes, I forgot to say that tune your working on sounds good bro, best with everything and enjoy the music.
oh bro, quickly, did we loose our stereo width on the busses? just how wide the field is, must be hiding, guess I can plugin anyway, but that was handy
@@jeramiahrossnz thanks brotha! I appreciate the kind words on the music! 😊 Yeah, I don't think we lost stereo width on the busses. I was able to pan some hats and I had them run through the bus. So it is stereo, but I don't know if they had a stereo widener on the busses before. I don't see one now tho.
bro you make me like Harrison Mixbus 32C V9
I love it!
How do you get your dsp so low? I'm running around the same latency w/ an I7 and all the bells and whistles. My dsp still runs around 30-40% with only a few tracks.
I'm on 48khz. And I'm on an MSI gaming laptop.
cool review man, is there a way to unlink the eq, gate, comp selector between the channels, groups, sends and master? even better unlink ever single channel?? because im finding myself switching the modes far to often than i will like, for example, when i need to eq a couple of channels and at the same time i need an eye on the compressors or tape saturation on the groups to do slight changes on the fly...(im more focused in a live situation where i have tracks, loops, drum machine, synth, etc, routed straight to the channels in mixbuss)... i am missing that setting somewhere? maybe is a small thing... but i feel restricted somehow when im in the flow with a live setup to the point it gets kind of annoying.
I am thinking monitor size perhaps a 4K monitor to do that, so that you can have the whole channel strip visible, because I do not know if you can unlink them.
@@vigilantestylez I found a workaround...not ideal...but works for me, with out switching back to comp mode while im staying in sends mode, i can always go to the chanel in question or group, right click the channelstrip `comp or eq´ go to inline controls, click show `show all´ or the ones i want for direct access and that's it... i don't have to keep clicking to switch between modes if i want a slight change with the mouse on the fly and i can keep my third eye on the settings so i don't have to use my very bad memory to remember which settings i have...because i never remember and then i start to get nervous...
Before i was using Ableton to do the mixing in a live situation, with 4 Traktor channels routed in, a stereo channel for NI Machine to, using channels with loops and efx sends from ableton, channels with synths, etc etc...now i just root everything in separate channels and groups in Mixbuss saving me all the VST´s i used to use to make everything sound good and gel in Ableton...saving me between 35% and 45% in CPU resources because i can get everything sound and gel so much better in Mixbuss without additional plugins.
@@egoxploit You taught me something! I think I will do the same, as that makes everything easier. Thanks, my friend! 😊😊
@@vigilantestylez this morning i suddenly realize there are this things called...manuals🤯🤯...so yhea, im glad that my reading of the morning could help some else somehow 👍
@@egoxploit I skimmed it at best.
Vigilante, I always thought pro tools sounded amazing. But I hate using it as it was clunky.
I do thing a lot of great mixes have been made in pro tools tho!
Also, i think companies like Roland and korg have been making digital emulations for a long time. At least 30 years. When I use my hardware boards, I think the effects and chorus etc and compressors sound so good. Full of character.
Sort of they make a compressor or effect that just works with keyboard synth sounds really well.
I have synthesisers that use complicated circuit modelling and emulation. But they just don’t sound as good as my older sh201 which used far more crude virtual analog design.
Can it be true that some of the older basic eq’s and compressors that didn’t use advanced designs, still just sounded good?
Protools doesn't really have a sound, but maybe people like the way their plugins operate and sound in it because of the DSP and how that interacts with their AAX plugins. I have noticed the same plugin as AAX doesn't sound totally the same as the VST versions. Similar of course, but a tiny bit different, and I can't place why exactly. But there is a different kind of sound processing going on in protools, but to me, Harrison Mixbus 32C slays them all, but ofc I love the Harrison sound quality.
If we're talking about hardware, of course! Yeah classic gear sounds great and was simplistic in nature, but had great sounding transformers, tubes etc. Software, yeah that too. Some old plugins are coded well, and still do a good job in today's world. While I think the Metric Halo channel kind of sucks, Serban Ghenea still uses it, and wins grammy's with it, so its not a bad plugin, and its very old. The old waves SSL channel strips still sound great today, and even though its debatable if they really sound like a true SSL console, they still sounded good, and gave music a good vibe when the sounds were processed through them.
@@vigilantestylez right!
Phil tan went from ssl to pro tools. He said it was mainly about convenience. He didn’t have time to set up the ssl desk and all the effects again to make one little change his clients would ask for three weeks later.
Tbh eq and compression is a thing. But so is reverb, delay and chorus!
And also automation! That’s the big one for me nowadays. As a little bit of automation fixes so many problems.
Tho my opinion still is, all these tools. If the engineer is skilful, and the production is good, and the song has a life to it.
Well, it’s huge getting all those steps in place.
That said jimmy loops is 11 to 1 on buy beats.
I didn’t even know he was using loops until you said. I just assumed as he got so much clout, he was playing all himself.
I remember the days when loops were seen as an insult!
Which makes me want to say. Maybe it’s just about getting the pay cheque, whatever that entails. Maybe integrity is a concept from a bygone age.
@@samheim253 The main reason why people like Phil Tan and Serban Ghenea went totally in the box is because they are mixing and not recording people. So, the tracks they are sent already have saturation, character etc, and all they have to do is balance the tracks, tighten them up a bit, and send it off to mastering. That was the point of the SSL console to begin with is that it was supposed to be a transparent sounding console with a good computer, and automation etc. Ofc over time the plugins got better, and now they have plugins of a lot of the gear they would have reached for in a mixing studio. Also, the mastering process was still analog, so there was no reason for the mixing process to have any analog flavor. But nowadays, recording is digital, mixing is digital, and mastering is digital, so using plugins that give some warmth, or to use a DAW that sounds like an analog console helps in the box users get a polished sound like they get in top-of-the-line studios.
1080 for me you silly billies
Hey coolio……I’m thinking of making the upgrade from 7…..biggest issue for me is midi control from maschine mk3 and mackie mcu pro…(love that to death as old as it is)….is anyone familiar with this side of mixbus v 9
Coolio? He was a great hip hop artist RIP. Yeah, I don't use any hardware with it, I think those seem like MIDI controllers for composing music? It might work. In terms of a DAW controller for mixing, I have heard of some old Tascam unit that works well with Harrison Mixbus 32C, but idk if that same unit will work with the new v9 since they overhauled the mixer.
@@vigilantestylez thanks….midi functionality is big part of working in a Daw…..I found a few things in prefs….it’s big plus (32c) is that it’s a cool Daw to work in.
After the Dan worrell thing, I started to doubt Harrison, but got a new windows pc and didn’t have logic anymore to mix, so decided to re-install mixbus…now I’m a believer again it just sounds warm thick and pleasing..no cap.
How is the midi now in that version ? thanks and great video btw
I haven't used the midi. I usually do my music creation in FL Studio, and I don't use a DAW controller. I just mix with the mouse and keyboard.
SSL now owns Harrison...
Yes, and I wonder if they will make an SSL Mixbus DAW.... Crossing my fingers.
@@vigilantestylez I love Harrison Mixbus32C. I’d be interested in a hybrid, where maybe you could choose between 32C, SSL 4000 & 9000 in each section. So 4000 EQ, 9000 comp, 32C gate, etc.
@@bnjmnwstthat sounds cool or they could release it as different DAWs, so they can focus more on the proper routing signal flow and DSP to sound and perform like a certain console. Otherwise we get CPU issues I think.
@@vigilantestylez I don't know. Maybe they just build each module as if it's a separate plug-in. Softube is already doing something like what I described with their Console 1 software, I believe. I don't think it's that difficult. They could just have a set of three presets, one for each unified console type. You choose 32C, you get the standard modules & signal path of a 32C. You choose an SSL 4000x, & you get the same for that board, etc. I think it's infinitely doable.
I have a question, when I have used Mixbus, it feels like the limiter is always on. Even when it seems like I’ve turned it off. Is that suppose to happen? And btw, V9 is really inspiring me to use and create in Mixbus. My only problem is when I bounce to export, it sounds really low.
It does leave headroom. I try to make sure that the output levels are just under 0db on the k-14 meter. Now, that will not be loud at all, but it is plenty of headroom for mastering. The mastering stage I do in a different DAW and make it loud. Right now I use BX Masterdesk to master my Harrison mixes, but I also have used Ozone of course. You can get it incredibly loud with Ozone. I tend to like quieter masters, so that the full range of sound is not being compromised. I tend to aim for AES recommendations of -1db headroom true peak, -16 LUFS. It's definitely "loud enough" but not so loud that there is smashing from limiters, and harshness introduced by over compression etc. But that kind of loudness might not work if you are sending this to a DJ who will play the music in the club up against other loud masters, and especially if that DJ just runs a playlist, and does no actual DJ-ing.
@@vigilantestylez ok, so I’m not the only one that noticed it. I do have T-Racks I can run it through. And i don’t mind doing it that way for mastering. Makes much more sense to separate the jobs anyway in different processes. And I have other mastering options as well. I really like the look and flow of this V9. It feels like they did a lot. My main DAW is Reason and they are not wanting to even become M1 native yet.
@@vigilantestylez as far as the club scene, I use the Slate VSX Headphone system. One of the emulations is a club. That helps alot.
@@djsilent01 I have been curious about T-Racks mastering plugins. Have you compared them to ozone? I have been on the fence about T-Racks for a while, and I know they make solid plugins no doubt.
@@vigilantestylez im telling you, if anything, try there mixbox. That is worth it. All of t-racks doesn’t get enough love. I’ve been using it for years.
Illisible sur mes 2 écrans …..dommage ça me plaisait mais pas pour moi, de plus pas convaincu que c’est la daw qui sonne mais plutôt les convertisseurs
To each their own I guess. I like it however.
Thanks for sharing. Why 360p? Looks terrible, cant see or read any of it.
1080p version was processing. You can watch it now. It usually takes 2 hours after upload to process the HD version.
Some other guy? Dan.
Dan Worrall hasn't evaluated the DAW software just their plugins from Harrison.
But yeah, him. 😂😂
40-minute rant with 5-minutes of actual solid content.
Thanks!
Low quality video 360p no good at list 720p . can not see clear low budget video sorry no good.
The 1080p version was processing. Watch it now.