Overview of Water Resistance - Watch and Learn #5

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  • @911naimplate
    @911naimplate 6 років тому +51

    Mark, one thing I would like to mention as an owner of many divers. When changing the gasket, I highly suggest using a thin film of watch grease on the gasket before placing it back into the gate and resealing the watch. The grease creates less friction on the gasket as the case back presses against it therefore providing less warpage and a better seal. It is also a good idea to get into reversing screw down casebacks and watch crowns prior to tightening them. Unfortunately I've seen way too many newbies cross thread crowns and casebacks and depending on the watch, the entire case can be ruined but more often it’s just the crown or caseback as they tend to be made from softer materials. It would appear that the “Watch Gods” thought of such mistakes in advance. This procedure is especially important with non-stainless steel watches that use soft materials such as bronze and gold that damage easily. Thanks again for another insightful video.

    • @randyporter3491
      @randyporter3491 5 років тому

      Rob M Glad you made that point Rob ! I was thinking the exact same thing. In fact, I was about to order some watch grease, before watching this. A dry gasket will stretch and deform, even pulling out of it’s track.

    • @alandye4654
      @alandye4654 5 років тому

      @@randyporter3491 Hi Vacuum Grease Works Great In These Situations...

    • @randyporter3491
      @randyporter3491 5 років тому

      Thanks Alan, I wondered about that

    • @2K9s
      @2K9s 2 роки тому

      Replay around the video 02:05. Great points though, thanks. 👍

    • @brantisonfire
      @brantisonfire Рік тому

      I just thought I was weird for twisting the crowns of my watches in reverse before screwing them all the way down. I have plenty of tubes of silicone watch grease for when I take off a caseback to replace the gasket.

  • @navajasrs2402
    @navajasrs2402 6 років тому +169

    This is a pretty funny sentence, "Most watch companies will not cover damage due to water intrustion, *especially* dive watches."
    Ha!

    • @Trex100
      @Trex100 5 років тому

      Agreed

    • @powerplay4real174
      @powerplay4real174 4 роки тому

      How about those none Dive Watches ,I guess they just don't stand a chance.

  • @peterbustin2683
    @peterbustin2683 5 років тому +89

    I think my dog must be a secret watch repairer as he has loads of those ball things...

  • @galou0090
    @galou0090 3 роки тому

    New watch enthusiast here, these are the best videos on UA-cam about watches HANDS DOWN

  • @bassfishingwiththeantichri2921
    @bassfishingwiththeantichri2921 7 років тому

    A few months ago, on an uncommonly hot and humid day in Ca., I experienced condensation when the temps plummeted after the sun went down. I put the watch in a tupperware of dry rice. Later, I checked and cleaned the case back and gasket. (Quartz chrystal, 4 screws) Nothing seemed to be amiss.
    This demonstration described and replicated the effects I experienced that day. Watched & Learned, thank you.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      Thanks for checking it out and sharing.

  • @kenweller2032
    @kenweller2032 5 років тому +17

    19:00 Are watches ever purged with dry, inert gas before sealing? I have a pair of quality binoculars, not insane high end though, which were purged and filled with dry, pure argon gas prior to sealing in order to prevent this exact fogging scenario.

    • @Professional_Youtube_Commenter
      @Professional_Youtube_Commenter 3 роки тому

      lol, I never heard such a "i know better" narcissist comment in a while. Binoculars might need it because they magnify and a small amount of condesnsation could be a problem .When has a watch ever needed it. Also any "inert gases" will get contaminated the moment you pull out the crown to set the time. Watch isn't a sealed unit, case back needs to be popped for servicing/regulation.
      Above all else. IT DOESN'T NEED IT.

    • @marcocarag103
      @marcocarag103 3 роки тому +12

      @@Professional_UA-cam_Commenter Not sure where you were getting the the impression that Ken thinks they "know better"; their question reads as pretty innocent to me, just inquiring about existing methods to manage sealed devices. And actually there are watches that are designed in a way that's a bit reminiscent of what they describe -- such as Sinn's "Hydro" which are filled with oil to improve underwater readability, increase pressure resistance, and yes: eliminate condensation.

    • @mytuberforyou
      @mytuberforyou 3 роки тому +3

      Yes, Sinns were filled with Argon and used Viton seals to prevent gas exchange, later they switched to the dessicant capsule. Which makes sense since once the watch was serviced it's unlikely the servicing watchmaker would have argon on hand.

  • @themasterswordlink
    @themasterswordlink 8 років тому +100

    I'm kinda obsessed with Watch and Learn.. Super informative

  • @Br0ns0n
    @Br0ns0n 7 років тому

    I'm just getting into watches. This series is the best. Direct explanations that are right to the point. I'm learning so much. Thanks for posting these videos.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      Thank you for checking them out.

  • @BradleyMorrisYT
    @BradleyMorrisYT 8 років тому +7

    Love this series. As a beginner watch enthusiast these are so informative and entertaining! Keep it up!

  • @mountainmanwatchreviews8081
    @mountainmanwatchreviews8081 7 років тому +1

    I've learned more watching your channel in two days than months of watching reviews and just general watch videos. subbed.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      Thank you for checking it out.

  • @seanlim6308
    @seanlim6308 2 роки тому

    What an amazing insight! Everytime I visit Hong Kong or Japan, it was troublesome to see my watch fog up. I thought it was a loose crystal or crown, but this video clearly explains why and how. Thank you for the insight!

  • @mikec912
    @mikec912 6 років тому

    I love finding older Watch and Learns I've never seen!

  • @chrislj2890
    @chrislj2890 8 років тому +27

    Very interesting, and I had no idea about the inner condensation issue. The force created while swimming makes me think of the promo they showed for the new Apple Watch Series 2 when it looked like they had them mounted on a shaft spinning in water. This is a pretty good series of videos for anyone.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому +7

      Thank you!

    • @TheRealDrJoey
      @TheRealDrJoey 4 роки тому +2

      I remember, back in the days when Timex took a lickin' and kept on tickin', that John Cameron Swaize attached a Timex (sorry, don't know the reference) to an outboard motor's propeller, and let 'er rip. I don't think I'm remembering this wrong, but I'm old, so who knows? Anyway, it seems to me the watch band broke, but when they fished it out, naturally, it was still tickin'.

  • @karlbridge6842
    @karlbridge6842 4 роки тому +1

    I'm watching all of your videos in sequence. Absolutely fascinating! You're a great teacher and I've learned SO much. Bought some tools and done all sorts of watch repairs/alterations that I'd previously have paid for. But the subject matter is so interesting that I can't stop watching. Downside...earache from spending money on classic wristwatches. Many thanks.Karl UK.

  • @OmarVale
    @OmarVale 5 років тому +1

    Hi Mark. I have a Seiko Samurai. The crown was locked in, but it was not screwed all the way. After going to the beach, I noticed that the crown popped after only +- a "turn and a half". Do you think water could have gone in? The crown gasket was in position, it was just not screwed all the way. Thanks in advance for you help.

    • @keithrose6931
      @keithrose6931 5 років тому

      If you were just swimming all should be ok . There is a certain amount of waterproofing without being screwed down. Always best to check first anytime you enter the water though.

  • @SpaceWalkTraveller
    @SpaceWalkTraveller 6 років тому +2

    Thanks Mark for doing this educational video, I've actually learned something. Note, divers do not use dive watches anymore. Divers use dive computers. Dive watches went out in the early 90's. With depth, an open water PADI diver can only dive to about 20 meters. An advanced open water PADI diver can only dive to 30 meters. You'll find that most people who use a dive watch are desk diver or dreamers who think they are James Bond. If you do own a dive watch ask yourself, when was the last time you went scuba diving? 10ATM is usually more than enough for most people who do water sports.

  • @Iberian247
    @Iberian247 8 років тому +3

    Great learning video! I had no idea about the temperature vs condensation factor. I felt like I was watching an old Mr. Wizard episode. I just bought a Seiko SKX013 from your store and am really digging it. Thanks.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому

      Thank you. Don Herbert! I grew up watching that guy.

  • @raymondmalone9721
    @raymondmalone9721 8 років тому +44

    Once again another great video, learning so much , keep up the great work Marc.👍

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому +7

      Thank you!

    • @Q.Q.
      @Q.Q. 8 років тому +2

      Mark, could you please explain why, for watches that have internal bezels, the internal-bezel-crown usually is not screwed-down, while the (main) crown itself for obvious reasons is? Thanks.

    • @TheWayofGrace89
      @TheWayofGrace89 7 років тому +2

      Raymond Malone yes, like the Seiko Alpinist!!?!!

  • @chemoautotroph
    @chemoautotroph 6 років тому +1

    Awesome demonstration, you have cured my watch fog phobia, thank you very very very much!!!!

  • @2DRINKSMINIMUM
    @2DRINKSMINIMUM 8 років тому +15

    loving this series

  • @triples4good
    @triples4good 8 років тому +1

    Marc these videos are a great series. Very informational. Much appreciated.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому

      Thank you for watching them.

  • @albertromeo7699
    @albertromeo7699 6 років тому +3

    You are a master in your field. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @xmox2950
    @xmox2950 8 років тому +7

    Hi Marc, thanks for the Watch and Learn. But a side question, did they stop mass producing the SKXs yet? Do you know?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому +8

      I'd like to say I wish I knew. We are getting 007's and 009's in regular supply now, and they have 2016 serial numbers.

    • @xmox2950
      @xmox2950 8 років тому +5

      Thanks man. That is more informative than anything else I have heard on the forums. Cheers.

    • @nimitz9280
      @nimitz9280 6 років тому

      Update: got my skx007 a few weeks ago (2018) and im pretty sure it has a serialnumber from 2018.

  • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
    @AvgJoeWatchReviews 2 роки тому

    Good info here. Didn’t know about the condensation piece. Interesting.

  • @SirBeauJangles
    @SirBeauJangles 6 років тому

    Talk about "giving something back" - these quality videos are terrific. If I lived in the East USA instead of Scotland LIWatches would be my watch dealer for sure.

  • @AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
    @AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 6 років тому +3

    1. Can water resistance deteriorate after time?
    2. Does it make any difference which water you dive in? (Fresh water, dirty lake, salty sea water, public swimming pool where they add chemicals to the water?

    • @AR-rk9nn
      @AR-rk9nn 6 років тому

      Yes rubber gaskets/o-rings eventually perish and need to be replaced. Salt water makes rubber deteriorate faster than normal fresh water and time

  • @rbmwiv
    @rbmwiv 3 роки тому

    I had a Seiko like you were showing and after about 6 months it started leaking swimming. Luckily I was able to dry it out and replace the oring on the and was good to go after that. Great videos!

  • @armandoandresmeabe8571
    @armandoandresmeabe8571 7 років тому +1

    Excellent video, thanks a lo! I've been scuba-diving (not really deep... at around 12m or so) with a 50m Eurotime (Argentine brand) screew crown and it just keep resisting. I'm planning to keep going until the first thing happens... Water finally gets in or I need to replace the batteries... as I don't think I'll be requesting the change of seals. It has surprised me

  • @Mixedpuppy
    @Mixedpuppy 3 роки тому

    Educational video thanks for the demonstration I learned a lot. Especially related to the gaskets. Question of curiosity, do the watch companies instruct repairmen to use a lubricant or silicone grease on the gaskets to help maintain the seal? Reason I’m asking is because I scuba dive and do underwater photography and we are meticulous about maintaining our seals and gaskets on our underwater cameras.

  • @pltorok0515
    @pltorok0515 8 років тому +2

    Another home run Mark! Keep them coming!

  • @commandZee
    @commandZee 8 років тому +6

    Another good one! Really looking forward to Part II !!!

  • @Kalmar917
    @Kalmar917 3 роки тому

    Just a quick question. I have a dive watch and took a hot shower for about 20 minutes. The watch was in a drawer which was cooler. So when I got out I decided to take it out of the drawer and place it on the sink counter. There was condensation on the crystal but not in the crystal. Is that ok? I am assuming yes and it did that because of the temp change. Also did not see any water inside the case. I just simply wiped the surface and it was gone.

  • @Shabec2982
    @Shabec2982 3 роки тому

    Wow. I was hooked on to this lesson, subbed.

  • @PushyPawn
    @PushyPawn Рік тому +1

    I screw the back on under a stream of dry Nitrogen directed at the movement and the result is 0% humidity inside the case.
    Just did your 'ice test' on two that have N2 and no fog or condensation. None, not even a speck.
    An empty water test chamber can also be used to displace air with dry N2 by pulling the crown out.
    (p.s. nitrogen is *lighter* than air)

  • @luciand8270
    @luciand8270 7 років тому +3

    You could show us how it works helium valve to deepsea wach??? would be very interesting, nobody has done a demo with these watches with helium valve. Thank you.

  • @vfp16
    @vfp16 2 роки тому

    Really great video. Having my skx779 and gshock take in water recently this educated me as to why that could be (old seal in the case of the gshock, botched service in the case of the skx). Also I did not know about the desiccant in the Sinn. Does that apply to all models? Don’t think I saw it in the 556i

  • @jamesgreig8796
    @jamesgreig8796 3 роки тому

    I really found your video on condensation in watches very interesting and informative. One of the best I have seen. Needless to say, I am a subscriber to your channel.
    Regards,
    James

  • @Hobby-zn7ce
    @Hobby-zn7ce 4 роки тому

    Is there a specification for the amount of slippage the cannon pinion should have and would there be a tool to measure it?

  • @edcortes5764
    @edcortes5764 2 роки тому

    Hello mark. Thanks for your video. I recently changed the crystal on my Orient Ray II, and I'm concerned that the watch has lost its pressure. Is there a way i can test it at home without submerging it?

  • @livingmodern
    @livingmodern 2 роки тому

    Big fan of you guys, just subbed and started collecting last year again...but I have a question...is it worth me attempting to open up my 90s Hamilton Ventura to clean out minor very minor layer of fog inside the crystal? or does it take more than just removing the stem to pop the dial out? I was also thinking of just opening the back and wrap a cloth around it and put it in a jar of rice sealed to get that moisture completely out of the case and hopefully crystal?

  • @samhalsey5051
    @samhalsey5051 Рік тому

    Hi Mark! I just got a SKX009J “Pepsi” I don’t really dive, only planing to swim maybe snorkel.. how often should I change the back and the screw down gaskets?

  • @leksasdf
    @leksasdf 6 років тому

    Hi Mark, kind of an unrelated question, but should I be concerned of a loose movement on my watch? When you pop the crown out you can see the dial moving, crown in and it's pretty stable.

  • @wolfyk95
    @wolfyk95 4 роки тому

    My mom got her Gucci 3300l wet and it stopped, how would I diagnose how to fix it? Should I buy a board and new battery or a whole eta 978-002 movement.

  • @Νικόλας_Μχρ
    @Νικόλας_Μχρ 4 роки тому

    Can I ask some think... How much tight should be the crown? Thenks you!

  • @mikaelzarfati4827
    @mikaelzarfati4827 8 років тому

    Great video very thorough loved it but I do have a question.. What about the helium valve like the ones found in Tissot? How does it coop with water resistance?

  • @nu1x
    @nu1x 4 роки тому

    What about watches that have liquid like oil sealed inside the case to diminish the underwater pressure ?
    I seem to recall seeing these watches somewhere.

  • @drevil4454
    @drevil4454 2 роки тому

    So if i go dive with that watch with the descicant i can stop the sea levels from rising??

  • @Asad-2166
    @Asad-2166 3 роки тому +1

    Your gloves don't you get micro fabric into the watch? 🇬🇧🤔

    • @panosvrionis8548
      @panosvrionis8548 3 роки тому

      It does
      And make me angry every time i see open case back for demonstration in non control environment!!!!!
      And put back in with no lubrication 🤪🤪🤪🤪

  • @EddyWoon
    @EddyWoon 7 років тому

    Thank you for creating this excellent content. I have a question regarding the design of the case, gasket and caseback for compression seal cases. I have a Vostok Amphibian and from what I have read, it uses the increasing water pressure to achieve a stronger seal.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      In actuality, any watch will achieve a stronger seal as the water pressure pushes harder on the caseback, further compressing the gasket and materials together. Just like putting the watch in a vise.

  • @zeinharis8467
    @zeinharis8467 5 років тому

    I have a question. Generally Seiko watches that have Diver's mark on the dial is an ISO standard watch, does Seiko do the ISO testing again when we service the watch?!

  • @grayknight836
    @grayknight836 Рік тому +1

    Shout-out from the Island! You think 🤔 these dive 🌊🤿 watch ⌚️ manufacturers would utilize Silicone gaskets instead of Rubber which dry-rots overtime. Silicon seems to be almost virtually indestructible regarding water 💦 impregnation, and heat ♨️ resistance.

  • @Amin_2k
    @Amin_2k 2 роки тому

    I have a question, hope someone can help me answer it. If the screw down crown isn't screwed in all the way, can water enter the watch? I know you showed in the video that it is when the crown is pulled out it is, but what if it is in the winding position? I am especially interested in the Orient Kamsu, where the gasket is not attached to the crown.

  • @emonty62
    @emonty62 6 років тому

    Great video...what if you bring it in to have it tested for being waterproof and water comes into the watch? Who will pay for the damage?

  • @privateguest853
    @privateguest853 6 років тому

    Very informative video, thanks. How about the Bulova Marine Star for men. Can it go in the water without getting damage?

    • @raychapman6810
      @raychapman6810 5 років тому

      Mine was fine, after replacing the battery and regreasing the case's gasket.

  • @WatchStalk
    @WatchStalk 8 років тому +1

    Great vlog - really enjoyed this one. Loved the ice cube demo, especially!

  • @TheBimmer74
    @TheBimmer74 3 роки тому

    Excellent information Marc.

  • @Malcolm1959
    @Malcolm1959 8 років тому

    Excellent and informative as ever Marc, thsnks for spending time explaining in an informal non engineering manner.....

  • @brianmgrim9342
    @brianmgrim9342 7 років тому

    Great vid, Marc! I'm new to dive watches, so plz forgive my nubile questions. In this vid. you took the time to remove the crown and adjustment spindle, and showed the spindle o-ring, but never showed the inside/bottom of the crown. Is there a gasket that, when the crown is screwed down, seals the crown against the top of the crown tube, when interfaced, adds to the water resistance on any of the divers you know about, or do they only rely on the internal crown tube seal for that water seal? Thanks.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      I do not believe Seiko has a gasket at the top of the crown.

  • @yataeeh
    @yataeeh 8 років тому

    Hi,
    I just serviced my Seiko as above that had a stuck setting crown. Works fine now. I still have humidity in the crystal. Can it be baked with the back off to rid the moister. TKS !!!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому +1

      yes. That would be a good plan. But be careful with the baking. Its not a cookie! You only need 100°F or so. Nothing more.

    • @yataeeh
      @yataeeh 8 років тому

      Thanks ! I was going to use a heat lamp for a few minuets with the case back lying loose on the case and then secure the back.

    • @ginkumo12
      @ginkumo12 8 років тому +1

      yataeeh you can use silica gel packets to absorb moisture.

  • @japudjuha
    @japudjuha 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the series, very informative!
    BTW what model Sinn did you have in that video, nice piece I wouldn't mind getting one.

  • @jimmyelectric
    @jimmyelectric 5 років тому +1

    I was wondering what crystal mod that was in the thumbnail

  • @tonytony6694
    @tonytony6694 3 роки тому

    Hi Mark, love your watch videos. I have a question.. I own a Seiko skx013 and I see a tiny gap between the case back and the case itself enough to fit a tiny paper. Is that normal? Some info will help.

  • @tynchytemper9618
    @tynchytemper9618 4 роки тому

    Christopher ward c60 elite 1000 has a display case?

  • @aHigherPower
    @aHigherPower 6 років тому

    Is there a see through back option for the SKX013?

  • @dulsrules
    @dulsrules 8 років тому +50

    Great series. We really learn from you man. Keep them coming. :)

  • @steve0680657
    @steve0680657 5 років тому

    With the skx007 is it advisable to screw down crown (gently) for day to day use when you're not setting the date or time?
    Also is there any benefit from unscrewing the back and placing the watch and case back onto say a fine wire mesh held over the dry air outlet of a desiccant dehumidifier and after 15mins screwing the case back on to ensure it's moisture free? Would that increase the lifespan of components inside?

  • @sanjursan
    @sanjursan 7 років тому

    If you are having trouble with screw down crown threads try this: when you are ready to close the crown push gently against the spring and turn the crown backwards, ie counter clockwise. Turn until you feel a definite click. Now the thread is correctly started and you can turn the crown clockwise to tighten. That's it. Do this every time and you will never cross thread your crown. This works on screw down case backs also.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      Works on anything with a screw thread!

  • @aryehh7128
    @aryehh7128 6 років тому

    You said "... that moisture will condense out" are you saying it'll leave via the crown when it unscrewed and opened? Or that it'll condense into the screen or gears and cause problems?

  • @leath25
    @leath25 3 роки тому

    Thanks didn't know about the fogging effect.interesting video.carl from England.

  • @Hermetic_
    @Hermetic_ 8 років тому +1

    So glad to have found this channel! Keep it up!

  • @jfdomega7938
    @jfdomega7938 8 років тому +3

    another brilliant video, thanks for taking the time to upload them.

  • @АлександрСергеев-я9ь
    @АлександрСергеев-я9ь 6 років тому +1

    3:32 ) The inscription below: "Japan mov't" and the letter "t" is higher than the others) Quality is super!)

  • @gerryhizon7735
    @gerryhizon7735 7 років тому

    tnx marc for the info I`ve already bought a seiko divers unisex size last week

  • @mnsignr
    @mnsignr 4 роки тому

    Mark, I have a very old Pulsar, Water Resistant 10 Bar Movement, VX32-X249 on the rear of the watch. The difficult part I’m finding is the correct size of the gasket (30mm OD x 1.5mm thickness). I’ve seen 12-30 mm OD, but the thickness is 2mm or 4mm; also, 1.5 thickness and but various OD sizes, (no 3mm at all). Do you think a 28mm x 1.5mm thickness is okay to use? (Or not?).

  • @warrenpeece1900
    @warrenpeece1900 7 років тому

    I currently own and love a second generation Seiko Monster. Anyway, the rotor was quite noisy and somehow came loose and no longer automatically wound the watch. I was able to fix it, but at the expense of taking off the caseback. The watch has since survived cleaning my fish tank and other minor instances of water exposure. I'm taking a vacation in a few months and was wondering if you had any advice as whether to trust it for swimming or if I should buy another watch for that vacation

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому +1

      You can have it tested by a watchmaker for cheap. I would do that.

  • @TheBrokenBMW
    @TheBrokenBMW 8 років тому +5

    Great to learn something new everyday :) Love my SKX007 even more now!

  • @Soggz7785
    @Soggz7785 4 роки тому

    Hi Mark.
    Could a cheap Chinese watch be regulated to keep a good time, as good as an expensive watch?

  • @markpercival2619
    @markpercival2619 8 років тому +1

    Great viewing and informative to boot. Thanks. Now to Pt.2.😊

  • @TheBRad704
    @TheBRad704 8 років тому

    Question not related to WR... I've read/been told NOT to replace the stem without depressing the stem release. Are stems designed to be able to just push back in? Or did you do that because these are parts-watches only?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому +1

      *Not a watchmaker. Yes, you should depress the lever. Not totally necessary though.

  • @shonwashburn5435
    @shonwashburn5435 7 років тому

    Great video Mark. I am learning a lot from you. In videos like these, you use watches that are no longer working. What about doing a video on how these watches broke. I bet we could learn a lot from a video like that. Thanks again!!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      LOL! Most of them are from customers that damaged them : )

  • @starluckming
    @starluckming 7 років тому

    Hi Sir, Could you share some light that how can you open the back cover by a stress ball?

  • @fabriziodutto7508
    @fabriziodutto7508 4 роки тому

    Very informative! Have you ever seen a Vostok amphibia, how it is sealed, very interesting i.m.o.h.o.? BTW there are the compressor kind of water resistant cases too, to be discussed.

  • @spidey5324
    @spidey5324 6 років тому

    Does Sea Gull Ocean Star has the fog if you put ice on the crystal?

  • @mikemantho9426
    @mikemantho9426 8 років тому

    Great video Mark, very informative. I believe the Sinn capsule turns dark blue as it absorbs moisture. At least that's what my 857UTC manual states.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому

      I thought it turned pink. Well, dark blue is OK too! I tried the ice trick on both of my Sinns and indeed, they did fog (posted a pic on Instagram). But, I would say nowhere near the amount the Seiko fogged.

  • @luisalejandro1757
    @luisalejandro1757 8 років тому

    Great educational video. So much more to learn. Pls keep posting them.

  • @blackhawk2475
    @blackhawk2475 7 років тому

    Great, very informative video. I believe what will help everyone in reference to water RESISTANCE is that there IS a difference between water RESISTANCE and water PROOF. Resistance has its condition limitations while something that is water PROOF is more of an absolute condition. Just a thought...

  • @rbmwiv
    @rbmwiv 3 роки тому

    Here’s a tip I have figured out how to get condensation out of a watch. It works pretty well but it needs to be open like pull out the stem. Get a small Pringle can full of cat litter bury the watch in it put a pice of tape over the stem hole to keep debris out. But it will get it dry.

  • @frankschroth4038
    @frankschroth4038 8 років тому

    Hi Marc,
    great Chanel you got here. Very informative! What I would like to know, is how do automatic movements get adjusted in different positions? Don't you mess up one adjustment in , let's say crown up, by adjusting to crown down position? I have tried to find information on the web,but never found any! could you please make a video on that?
    Greetings from Germany
    Frank Schroth

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому

      Thank you. That's more geared towards watchmaking, BUT, remember when I showed the balance wheel with screws in it? That's one trick the watchmaker uses, as well as special bends in the hairspring, and adjustments to the regulator. Adjustment is an art. A monkey can regulate.

    • @frankschroth4038
      @frankschroth4038 8 років тому

      Hi Marc,
      thanks for the great info. Now I've learned something new again!Thanks, wow!
      And,great chanel,awesome videos. Keep 'em coming!
      Greetings from Germany
      Frank Schroth

  • @Michael-4
    @Michael-4 8 років тому

    Thank you very much. Never seen the condensation on the inside before.

  • @FlorianLify
    @FlorianLify 7 років тому

    Great explanation; I own the SKX009 myself and its fantastic to see how it is assembled (without have to ruin it myself!) :-)
    Fantastic videos Marc; thanks again!!!!!!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      Thanks! I have plenty of ruined watches :)

  • @grantpowell9075
    @grantpowell9075 8 років тому +7

    Great vid!
    What are your thoughts on the Vostok Amphibia? They're not as refined as a lot of other dive watches, but the two piece case back design is rather clever. It would be interesting to see exactly how well it stacks up against a traditional dive watch like the SKX.

    • @JRoJamz
      @JRoJamz 8 років тому +4

      This was the first thing that came to my mind as well. The back and the crystal both are supposed to get more waterproof at greater atmospheres of pressure, an ingenious bit of engineering on a relatively austere budget.

    • @grantpowell9075
      @grantpowell9075 8 років тому +3

      +Jim Rodriguez I thought the engineering behind the Amphibia was cool, so I bought one. They're cheap but interesting. Here's a primer For those that don't know a lot about them.. If I remember correctly at 200m, the crystal will compress .5-1mm which is cool. Replacement crystals are also dirt cheap. The crown is intentionally wobbly so that the stem won't break off in the movement. You can feel it grab when you start to wind it. The case back design really steals the show though. Big flat rubber seal sits in a groove, the indexed case back sits freely on top and can move up and down, then the outer ring screws down and presses the case back into the seal. Special rubber had to be developed so it rebounded properly after being compressed. Since there's no shearing action when you tighten the case back, you don't need to replace the seal after removing and replacing the case back.
      The case finishing is rough enough to file my fingernails but the watch as a whole is very neat.

    • @zakofrx
      @zakofrx 6 років тому +1

      I like the system Vostok uses, I bought mine a long time ago but after the USSR feel.
      I saw a test years ago wear the Vostok waterproofing failed before the Seiko.
      From memory the low quality metal used in the Vostok caused it to flex leading to the failure.

    • @syncro16se
      @syncro16se 4 роки тому

      I would argue that Vostok Amphibia has the best screw down caseback system where the threaded outer ring pushes the stationary caseback straight down without rubbing against the gasket rubber when tightening. The gasket is also a fat wide thing, - more sealing surface.
      Vostoks have been reported to withstand the equivalent of 600-800 meters of pressure. That's how smart that solution is.

  • @acftmxman
    @acftmxman 8 років тому

    Marc, another great, informative video! The ice trick was neat, I liked it. On the watch with the screws, I take it you would cross hatch the screws to just some resistance at first, then cross hatch again to tight. That way you can get as even a seal and torque as possible. Could you please mention the ball again and where I might find one? Thanks.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  8 років тому +1

      Absolutely, like a car tire. Here's the ball: www.ofrei.com/page1226.html

    • @acftmxman
      @acftmxman 8 років тому

      Long Island Watch Marc, thanks for the reply. They are only 15 minutes away from me so I'm going to go down there and pick one up on my next day off. I really appreciate it so much!!!

  • @reubentomkee4703
    @reubentomkee4703 2 роки тому

    So true Mark.. wearing the watch in the shower is not a good thing... only exception if you are traveling and don't want to risk forgetting to put it back on,... cheers ( ryan's uncle Reuben)

  • @paulburger9904
    @paulburger9904 5 років тому +21

    Why does my jewler charge me so much for waterproofing? I looks like all you do is pop in an o-ring

    • @xex2kok
      @xex2kok 5 років тому +3

      Very likely they test your watch as well. Testing to 100m isn't that difficult but if you have a watch that is tested to 200m or similar that gets expensive because most places cannot do it.

    • @Winner3ty
      @Winner3ty 4 роки тому

      @@xex2kok so, Im guessing my watch saying "300m" is most likely BS?

    • @ComicalSatania
      @ComicalSatania 4 роки тому +3

      @@Winner3ty no

  • @Almansa403s
    @Almansa403s 8 років тому +1

    I have been loving this series. Keep it up, cant wait for the next one.

  • @vinceberry4017
    @vinceberry4017 3 роки тому

    Thanks Mark. Very informative video Learned some useful things about my watches. Also just bought a couple of your islanders. I love them. Great watches.

  • @museumandtravel
    @museumandtravel 6 років тому

    Any opinion of the Sea Urchin? Is it better or the same compared to the SK?

  • @jiibomcdinonald1874
    @jiibomcdinonald1874 7 років тому

    I find my SKX007 gets arm hair trapped under the case back. Do you think that will compromise the water resistance?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  7 років тому

      No, not at all. The hair isn't under the gasket.

  • @zash008
    @zash008 5 років тому

    I have wondered why watches after assembly and just before closing the backs are not purged with argon gas or nitrogen, etc as a general rule. There is one brand in germany I found that does this and has a screw in filter that wicks moisture that is replaced periodically but they are rather pricey

  • @paulbws125
    @paulbws125 4 роки тому

    How did you get the gloves on a Gorilla?