25ah Navitas LiFePO4 Capacity Test!! Amazing Cells!!!
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Your camera work is great. I love watching your videos. Mine arrived yesterday.
Thanks Man, appreciate that! Cant wait to see what you do with yours!!!🤘
What do y’all plan on using for bus bars? Just flattened copper tubing? Or do you have a source for tinned copper busbars that could be cut to length and drilled?
@@ssyoumans i am using copper bar. Maybe try tinning myself. Do you know where I could get tinned copper flat bar? 2" w x 5mm
I had some aluminum I used but in a real use operation I would most likely use copper. Its pretty cheap on ebay for many sizes, shape and thickness. For cheap asses like me Id use pipe and flatten😁🤷♂️💥🤘
Tinning yourself isnt to hard to do!
I subscribed just because of the driving sequence at the start.
Ill take it! My job is done!🤣🤘
@@AveRage_Joe I have an 8 pack of them arriving today/tomorrow so your review was kinda late but also reassuring. thanks!
Nice! Yeah intended to get the video out about 4-5 days ago but work and snow removal kept getting in the way❄❄❄🤦♂️😂
I went to Subscribe, but already am. Weird! lol
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Da...hammmmm thats a good start to this video!!!!! Great work Sir Joe!
Second, sexy Damascus steel knife your holding,
💥💥💥💥🤣🤘 Thanks Mate! My younger bro gave me that knife!🤘
I'm late to the party but that was awesome!
Thanks Man!💥🤘
Awesome Joe! I was going to buy a few, but they were gone, I have bought a few 32700's to add to my 12v bank, and to build a lawnmower battery, to power my ATV winch, and lights, I don't know if my mower does more than a couple amps, I know if I start it a few times without it running a while, it takes forever to charge, the winch would probably kill it while running! I built about a 24ah battery, I still need to test, but seems good, I have about 40 all together! The 5ah are a better deal, they test at near 6ah, (5700-5800) I heard, keep on keeping on!!
I havent tried the 32700s. Maybe Ill get to sometime in the future!
I loved the drive to the store! Had me laughing out loud immediately!! I agree with DavidPoz about the camera work (Similar to the previous comment about FoodPorn-like videos) Great to see you back Joe as always and thanks for the video....OH and also thanks for the majority of values also being shown in metric... Easier for us Canadians! Cheers man, looking forward to the next one :)
Lol I was laughing so hard I was crying after I edited that part together. Thanks and appreciate the comment. I try to remember to add metric although it doesnt always get added especially if using the thermal cam.🤘
Great video, especially the intro! I may have to grab me some of these once they're restocked!
Thanks Man! Yeah they are awesome cells! Hoping I can get a few before there gone once listed!🤞🤞
Ordered 4 for my portable ham radio build, thanks for doing the review!
You betcha! Oooo yeah a portable ham build should work great!!!
@@AveRage_Joe do you think 1 foot of
.125" x 2" copper bar will be enough to make bus bars for 4s1p?
Hell Yeah!!!
BEST start to a video ever!
Thanks Man!!! Appreciate that!!💥💥🤘
These cells went faster than a gallon of sweet tea on a hot summer day...
LOL They sure did. Hope I can get a few of the next shipment!🤞🤞
I grabbed a case +2 ... but I'm noob so I'm still figuring out how to build my 24v powerwall 😆🤣😂
Overkillsolar.com has bus bar's big but I'll size them, someone told me to go 8S 4p or do you parallel to voltage ⚡🤔
Ya hoping I don't go Boom
Nice! Yeah for a 24v you would do 8 in series and 4 in parallel. Basically parallel 4 cells together. You will have 8 of those 4 paralleled cells in series.
@@AveRage_Joe What are the actual dimensions of the cells, the listing has them 7 1/8 x 2 3/4 x 1 1/8, but there's no way they are only 2+3/4 wide....
Yup the cell is 6-9/16 tall or 7-1/8 with terminal, 2-3/4 wide and 1-1/16 thick.👍
awesome. that driving bit was hilarious. lol.
the icharger x6 / x8 / x12 are awesome with their regenerative discharge capabilities as long as your destination battery is not full. lol.
Lol Thanks!!!😂 Yeah this was actually the first time using the regen part. Ive been using the resistors! I totally missed that LA battery being full charged lol🤦♂️ I had another one ready too🤷♂️🤪
Nothing can stop you, you are all the way up with oho.... 🕶👍
And I wonder that now a days every DIYers are Using LifePo4 why...? Someone told me that it's winter & these Lifepo4 works better than lithium. 🤷♂️
Well I think a few years ago the 18650s was the cheap easy way to go and many of us didnt know. Dont get me wrong there still cool but Im looking for safer. Im predicting a huge switch over to lifepo4 at least for home solar battery banks. I cant say for sure if its winter temps or not, I would lean on the safer aspect side of things.
I like your driving skills. These batteries look pretty good but good luck getting any.
Lol Thanks Man!😂 Yeah will have to be ready to pull trigger once they go live!!!🤞🤞🤞
Yeah, that's how I get to the hardware store. 😂
Only way to go!!😂🤷♂️🤘
I just finished testing 10 of 16. All within spec so far. Only thing I didn't like was the terminals not being flat, but I bent a few copper washers to fit and I feel better for no good reason. I believe these are made in the USA as well. I'll probably pickup more for my lab packs, if bigger ones become available at a reasonable price I'd be all over some 120->280s.
Yeah they test great! I wish I had more discharge capability to try 3-5C. Im guessing they would do it just fine. Yeah id go for some big cells for sure as well lol. 🤘
Saludos desde Santa Marta (Colombia) Mr. AveRage Joe ;)
Greetings from Omaha Nebraska!!💥🤘
I bought 64... my numbers were 7260’s yours were 7000’s. I am working on the copper pipe bus bars. Like yours the initial voltage was spot on between all of them. Wish I could afford more. Great video as always... Thanks
Nice! Yeah I saw those numbers. Wasnt sure what they were for or from🤷♂️ Yeah depending on my use and how many I can afford will determine busbars lol. I have some 1/8" strip aliminum, just needs holes! TBD🤣 And thank you!🤘
It is just the cell numbers. Both cases have consecutive numbers... BTW. Been watching you for years and have learned a lot from you. Thanks.
Ahh ok. Appreciate the sub and watch time!🤘💥
I know this video is over a year old, but I wanted 40 of these cells so bad. At the time, I wanted to put 10 in parallel and make a really sick 12v battery that would be great for jump starting cars, or it could had been used to power a really powerful car audio application, or you could reconfigure it to 24v or 48v and run any inverter you need to run. These little cells were freaking perfect for any application you can think of. Probably the most versatile cells I've seen with the ability to pump out 3c to 5c in short bursts. Too bad I missed out on these, but I was in the hospital with a pulmonary embolism that very nearly killed me, so there was absolutely no way I could had been buying batteries, or working on said batteries. I guess ill have to keep looking around for cells with similar capabilities and capacity. Too bad A123 is no more. They made insanely capable 26650 cells and pouch cells. 2500mAh cells that were able to output 50 amps each is what I wanted for my projects. I don't need 1000 Ah of Lifepo4, I only need maybe 25Ah, but I need the cells to be able to pump out All the amps.
100% agree!! I tried to get more but could never get any. I have since gottn some 280ah cells. So jfyi, battery hookup usually gets the cells or has them in stock. They are in blue now and not green. Same specs!
@@AveRage_Joe I forgot to mention that Custom Electric Services, aka CES is another good website to check out. They sell 80Ah LTO batteries put together in nice cases, and they make extremely high output Alternators for producing lots pf power with your car. There's a couple really popular car audio sites, like Toolmaker that make beautiful CNC bus bars out of polished Billet Aluminum or Copper. I follow a UA-cam channel called Parker the Basshead, and he is doing a build right now with 8 -- 15 inch subwoofers and over 50 of the 8Ah Headway 38120HP cells with a huge, Beautiful set of Aluminum bus bars. Its a sexy sight to see with the cells all together with the polished Aluminum bus bars. Check it out if you get a chance. Its part 6 of his current build, so it will be easy to find here on UA-cam
Awesome! Ill do that!!
Only watched the first 49 seconds, best opening ever :D Keep up the good work!
😁lol I was laughing at myself so hard I started crying😂🤦♂️🤷♂️🤘
Count me in... @G me too.... But watched a little more 🤪
I bought 16 brand new ready to make Ebike battery. Great Video Thanks!!!
Amazing Cells!
I got 8 of those! Happy new year EH🇨🇦
That intro was 🔥... 💥... 🤣
LOL Thanks Man!💥💥💥🤘🤣
So professional. Just love it
Thanks Man!!!💥🤘
the wife made me hunt down the voom voom video again after saying some thing about it in your new video lol
Lol I Love the intro to this video as well!!!😆🤘
Haha always like your videos mate!
😁Thanks!!😂🤘
Hi i really like your videeeoooes, and this one at the beginning the funniest of all i watched so far, im watching all this most watched batteries and car channels on utube but this one stands out, keep on this great job and hopefully someday near future i put my work on channel here, and its because of you i made a malelectric spot welder from bare board ,, im working on video for that disaster boom.
Thanks Man appreciate that!🤘 Let me know when you got it posted!!!!
@@AveRage_Joe sure i will
Terrific and informative video, thank you
Thanks for watching!🤘
You get a like just because of the shocked look when seeing the price of metric fasteners. I had to buy a 16mm by like 2.5" bolt and the sucker was over $7.00! That's why we don't go metric here.
From a purely usefulness point of view, I would make a small 12 volt pack out of these and use it for 9 dozen things I need out at the farm, such as the sprayer, fuel and water transfer pumps, 12 volt fridge, and the entertainment system. I do need to build a bigger pack for my portable winch which would need to be able to discharge at around 300A for 15 minutes continuous.
Hi ArJ, Awesome video!!
Thanks Mate!🤘
love the intro now just wish i could get my hands on the cells
Thanks Man! Yeah I wish I could get them as well. Dont think BH even listed the 2nd batch😢
Jaja! Great intro, you should think of doing a spy movie!
Lol Thanks! Ill keep that in mind for the next video😁🤘
Excellent nutz intro. My goodness it looks straight freezing. N I'm in Northern Utah
Thanks🤣🤣 Yeah it was damn cold at the time of this video lol
I feel like every video I leave the same comment about your editing skills being perhaps the best thing you do amongst all of your skill sets, but damn if you don't deserve it! That intro was entertaining as hell! Do you have an existing BMS to use with these or would you have to get another one for this set up / chemistry? Cheers!
Thanks man! Your an OG to so you remember what they looked like LONG ago lol. Mmmm I could use batrium with this no problem but would be a waste unless it was a HUGE setup. Lil setup Id go with a daly!🤘
I love these cells I am going to get sum and make a power bank and then advertise it on my UA-cam channel
DIY product testing
These would be great for a power bank when you need electricity camping for hanging lights whatever it’s a lot better than a generator
Yes they are amazing cells. Perfect for ALL kinds of things!!🤘
Yes finally someone made a video on these specific cells I just bought 128 of them from battery hookup!
Im jelly!!! I planned on gettin video out like 4-5 days ago but work and snow removal got in the way!🤦♂️
@@AveRage_Joe i hope your able to get some more! Im building a 48v 200 amp battery for my rv. Awesome video by the way. Laughed my ass off! Great content 👍
NICE!!! There ya go!🤘I really want a 300ah at 48v but wont beable to afford it atm. Ill for sure be getting 12 moar or a box of 32😂🤷♂️🤞
@@AveRage_Joe i know! After shipping i dropped over $1600. I couldn't pass it up. I originally bought over 1200 lithium ion 18650 cells and just finished processing the last modum pack when i saw those navitas prismatic cells 😭 now i need to sell em all. I would love to do 300 amp but im out of room!
Yeah Im gonna be switching over to lifepo4. I have enough 18650 cells just sittin in boxes ready to be assembled but would rather go the safer route since I have the cells inside. Im sure you can sell yours and make room😬😁🤘
For the regenerative discharge to the SLA battery, I have the ToolKitRC M8 which has the regenerative discharge and I want to make the battery pack for my bench with a "top dump" added to it. That way it will charge until it gets to the full voltage and will trigger a resistive load to drain off the extra power. That way under normal conditions the power will get used up in whatever loads I have on the battery and for any higher battery discharges with the M8 it will dump the rest as heat
That would be awesome to do. Let me know if you get something like that going!
Joe Awesome 😎 love your humour!
Thanks Mate! Appreciate that!😆💥🤘
I just found your chanel & subscribed. Congrarulation from Bangladesh...
Thanks Mate! 🤘
If you just got one and paired it with a USB power bank module with decent boosts capabilities for v9/V12 volt fast charge.. it would make make a awesome power bank... But USB power bank modules are designed for lithium polymer or lithium ion.. so it be hard to find one that's po4 . but thought it was a cool idea and would be really cheap.. also with type c you can deliver a lot of wattage when it comes to charging.. over 100 watts is common.. my power bank is huge but it takes 8/10 hours to charge and with a maximum charging power of 20 Watts. Slow af. 😐
Heall Yeah I was thinking the same. A usb power bank would be awesome with one of these. Could power all kinds of stuff. Shoot maybe even a portable solar power genny!!!🤯😁🤘
I just bought a case of those batteries from battery hookup. The ones they sent me are in blue shrink tube, and don't have any posts marked for which is positive or negative. Although one post on each battery is aluminum color, and the other post is light brass color. Any idea which post is positive???
I’m going NUTS over your video!
🤣🤘 Ill take that as a compliment!💥
AveRage Joe Absolutely! You make amazing videos!!
Thank You! Appreciate that!💪🤘💥
I like it! I'm in love with these cells also!
Do you get any? 2nd shippment hasnt posted yet so still time!!!🤘
@@AveRage_Joe sure did! Now I'm debating on whether up get more Lol
Im still planning a few as long as im not like at work while its posted and sold out by the time I get home!🤞🤞
@@AveRage_Joe tell your boss its super important. I'm sure they'll understand 😂
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Liked, subscribed and laughed at the intro. So true. !:- )
Thanks Man!! Appreciate that!!🤘
Nice video...Good price, quality, etc...Tks!
Thanks for watching!
I love your videos !!! Boooom !
THANK YOU!!!💥💥💥💥💥💥🤘
I bought some top band 25AH about four months ago I built a 4S and a 4S2P love them so far
Where did you get them from?
@@AveRage_Joe off eBay from a guy in California!
@@AveRage_Joe I am now considering your idea of taking 16 and making a 4p4S 100 ah battery I already have 12 would only need four more.
Wouldnt take much! Id go for it! 🤘
LOL Love the intro! 😆😺
Not only do you need your nuts, but keep your nuts in a row 👍
Thanks Man! Shoulda thrown a cat in the pass side 🤣 Maybe next time😲🤫 🔩🔩🔩
Cell impedance on ones I received ranged from 4.5 to 5.1 milliohms. Spec is
I have an actual IR tester now so I should recheck mine!
I got 8 of these a little while back and I had one of those sets from harbor freight that had the nuts and washers I needed
Ahhh ya those lil hardware kits!🤘
LOL hilarious. Been waiting for this one.
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your wife must have helped with intro guys are not that good lol loved it
Lol One man show!😆 Thanks for watching!💥🤘
Nice video. Question is specs don't have orientation that I can find. Studs up? Sideways? And for this size pack what dimension of shrink wrap? Any advice would thank ya much!
Yeah I didnt see anything in spec sheet about orientation. I think these cells can be mounted on there side tho. I have some heat shrink coming from Keith and hope to get a size worked out. Are you looking for single cell color change or shrinking a bunch together?
@@AveRage_Joe have 4s 12v 25ah navitas cells with a bms. Not sure how to size shrink wrap. Then I have 4 varicore lifpo4 3.2v 100ah cells coming that will need the same.
One pack of 4 cells. Straight answer
Awesome! Ill see what I can find out.
I am new to batteries and I would like to use it for my solar set up let me see if I got this straight each one of those are 25 amp hour batteries that means that if I got four of them that would be 100 amp hour batteries am I hearing this right
Yes they are 25ah each. The amp hours stay the same when you series the batteries together for example a 12v battery. 4 in series would still be 25ah. If you add in parallel is when the amp hours go up. For example if you wanted a 12v 100ah battery you would need 16 batteries. 4 sets of 4. Does that help?
Awesome can't until you you the boxes full Navitas for your pw
If I could afford it I would in a heart beat!!!🤘
I received mine quickly since 1 week or 2 in Canada whitout any problem. Thanks batteryhookup. All store were closed here because of the pandemic so I do not have nuts :(. They open today! I bought 8 cells with a bms. I dont know if I'll.make 4s2p 50ah or 2 battery 4s 25Ah. Any suggestions, can some single group whitin the 4s2p became unbalanced even with a good bms?
Nice! Glad they got there fast and safe! Cant go wrong with either setup. The cells should go to far out of balance with a bms especially if you do a top balance!🤘
Hi Average Joe
Battery Hookup does not seem to have the Navitas cells in stock now. Are TopBand cells pretty much equivalent?
I would like to put together a 48volt 20AH (or more) battery pack for my motorino xpe electric scooter. I haven't worked with LIFEPO4 batteries in the past - are prismatic batteries okay for this type of (sit down) scooter? Also, you mention bolts - can you reply with the specific name of the bolts so I can search for them on-line. I presume I need a BMS - do you have any thoughts on the specific of a BMS needed to create 48V (actually 51.2 volts)? Do I need a special case? Is there anything else I should be thinking about? Is BOOM discount still available?
THANKS . . .
Phil Troy
Yeah topband is the same cells! Yep these are good for everything! Yeppers boom code still works!😄💥🤘
I'm building a 4S6P pack with 24 of these batteries. I'm trying to top charge 6 batteries in parallel using an ICharger 3010B. As in your ICharger X6, the 3010B can supposedly charge at up to 30A. When I received the Navitas batteries, they were at around 3.29V. I set the charger to charge at 15A, but charger only put out around 4A initially, decreasing even further as the batteries charge. When the charger stopped charging, the battery voltage only measured around 3.33V. I expected fully-charged battery voltage closer to 3.6V. I'm wondering whether something's wrong with my charger, or maybe something going on with the batteries.
What fully-charge voltage are you getting on your batteries?
On my icharger I can set the charge voltage for lifepo4 to 3.65v. If your charger is set to the "normal" charge voltage then 3.3 or 3.4v is normal and thats why you only saw the 4a charge. If the cells were lower voltage then you may see the 30a. Are you able to manually change the charge voltage on that charger?
@@AveRage_Joe Yes I can. After changing to 3.65V, maximum charge current was 1A higher. It maxed out at around 5A. It's still charging at the moment. Currently, battery voltage is 3.336V. Charge current is down to 3.7A. Were you able to get to around 3.6V per cell when your batteries were fully charged? Do you remember what your individual battery voltages were when the charge current went down to around 5A?
Oh ok cool. I dont remember voltage but you are in the flat part of the curve so it will stay there for a while. Dont worry, they will go up to 3.65v. There amazing cells!!!
ya buddy! I picked up 18 of these to try out.
NICE!!! Im super excited about them. Wish I could afford moar!!!🙌
@@AveRage_Joe Ahh nuts, I need nuts too. Thanks for figuring out what size these use. haha
You Betcha!!!💥🤘
I'm somewhat new to this whole lithium battery pack thing, do these batteries have a built-in BMS?
Welcome to the battery life! No these do not have a bms built in. You would need to add a lifepo4 bms. Of cousre get one for how many batteries you have in series and amp requirments.👍
cool! a little pricey but they are very high quality, I remeber my Headway pack is a bit unbalanced since they were used cells.
I always wanted to mess with headways. What do you think of them?
@@AveRage_Joe they are pretty good for the price, for bigger packs they would be fine once you test them and use the pack builder on SecondLifeStorage, with my 4S2P pack it is hard to get them perfectly matched. So you will end up losing capacity in deep discharge since your lowest cell is your weakest link but for the most part that isnt necessary. I just put my pack in full time service with a 12v UPS and after a top balance they have been working fine. I have videos on the UPS and when I first built the pack.
Nice! Yeah always those weaker cells ruining the fun lol. Ill have to take a look as I dont remember seeing that video.
A great review of a great battery. I built a 100 ah battery for my trolling motor powered kayak. I used flattened 3/8 soft copper tubing for buss bars. I spent extra for an active balance system. I put Anderson connectors on each 3.2 volt parallel connected set. And I put Anderson connectors on the active balancers. I have other builds and I can switch the balancers around different batteries. electriccarparts.com has the balancers and they work very well.
Thanks Man! Yeah they would be purfect for trolling motor for sure! I love using anderson connectors. Havent tried using active balancers yet. Dont they make the bms work harder on the recharge cycle?
When you measure the Ohms, do you make sure the meter reads "0" when you connect the leads to each other? Otherwise, the readings will be off slightly. Also, moving the wire while reading can change the readings, as well. This is one reason the readings may have bounced between like 5 and 6 Ohms, for example.
Yeah I zero out before test. I tried to stay still and even pressure but yahno🤷♂️
There's a slight voltage from the terminals and the case, that's why your resistance measurement is not really valid. It's not a concern as it's only a very high impedance leakage that goes to zero with any load attached between them
How long would a 48v battery run my golf cart? Or do I need a higher amp hr rating?
Cant say as I dont know what yours has now. You would need more cells in parallel to make a nice hr pack. These would be perfect for golf cart tho!
@@AveRage_Joe The golf cart has lead acid, 48 V. But I have no idea how many amp hrs. I'd have to get a 16s BMS and an appropriate charger. I do agree though that they look perfect, the price is sure right. I'll see how many amphr these group 27 deep cycle batteries are rated at. Thanks for the quick come back.
Geoff
No problem. Yeah a bms would be needed for sure!
Nice find
Thanks Mate!🤘
Nice video!
Thanks Man! 🤘
Thanks for your videos, I want 4 kW, how much battery does it need?
What voltage?
@@AveRage_Joe 24 volt
You would need around 56 batteries. 8s7p which is 4.2kwh
0:52 where's the clutch at
The time is meow to choose LiFe buddy 😁
16s LiFe will play nicely with 14s Li Ion. So could work with your existing PW. ✌
Yes sirrrr!!!!! Yeah Im on the track to start switching over to lifepo4 for future battery build.🤘🤘
how heavier are these LifePo4 batteries vs 18650 cells? assume equivalent battery capacity
These are about 1.4lbs each or 660grams. Cant remember off the top of my head how much a single 18650 weighs. I would say 18650's would be lighter depending on mah of cells used.
I really wish battery manufacturers would list Watt hours on their spec sheets. It's a far more important stat that amp hours.
THAT was one of the things I forgot to mention🤦♂️ Thanks for the reminder!🤘
A good enough estimate is nominal voltage x Ah.
I prefer amp hours, but then for me math is easy. Personally I dislike Wh.
@@PlanePreacher Thanks for the reply. Your position interests me. My view is that, if building a battery like this, your intent is to be able to power your house. If you know the Watt hours, it's an easy calculation to work out whether the pack can deliver the power necessary. If you're using Amp hours, you need to convert it back & forward to decide on the final power delivery at mains voltage.
Why is amp hours superior?
SAMEZIES!🤣
Why do you weigh them?
I built a 12 volt with 4 of them and both easy and powerful
Nice! Checking weight is to make sure they match manufacture specs and some like to to use weight for planning a project!
Ok, thanks.
What are you using for a BMS on all these batteries?
Depends on how many but for the few that I have id probly use a daly!🤘
Why not get for power-wall bigger cells, like 200 or 280Ah? It seams cumbersome to connect 100 small 25Ah cells
No no I was saying if you have many smaller cells they will act like 18650s and "help" each other stay in check vs having a single 280ah string. Agree its more pia to connect a bunch of smaller cells. The reason I didnt get a bunch of these when they listed them is because I allready purchased some 272ah cells a week or 2 before.🤘
If I knew battery hookup was going to list these then I would have gone this route 1st!
Great video
Thanks Man!🤘
Love the intro
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I'm thinking you did a great job.
I'm building solar bank.what do you recommend?
Thanks mate! Well if you can jump on these when they go live here in the week Id say JUMP. If not these Id look into the big cells from china. What voltage you doing? Can get a link for china cells Im looking at if you want.
@@AveRage_Joe 24v, and I know that it's odd to have but that's how I roll . I'm in cold country and won't be able to dig the camper out until spring. But I have youtube University till then.
FYI - Tractor Supply sells Nuts and Bolts by the pound; much cheaper.
Good to know! We have a few of those stores around here but across town. Ill keep them in mind next time for sure!!!🤘
Dude your something else! Lol
😆💥🤘
Wonder how they compare to headway cells
Cant say as I dont have any🤷♂️ Always wanted some tho!🤘
I'll admit I was a little disappointed that when the discharge happened I didn't hear the infamous shop quote... And... kontakt
Lol!🤣💥
Putting everything aside, I am clueless on how you can charge a 12V LA battery from like 3.6 volts? DC-DC booster?
Yeah the icharger x6 has a regen mode where its a dc-dc booster! You gotter🤘
Just ordered 8 from BH.
Nice!
20 of those would make for a sweet ebike, at a reasonable price: 3.2 x 25 x 20 Wh = 1.6kWh
Hell Yeah it would!!!🤘
I have 50Ah Top Band cells obtained from Lion Energy being sold off from un sold power packs. Top Band cells looks to be about the same use bolts not built on studs. 32 of them works for me. 2 years no issues. 24v Configuration . These cells would fit right into my system no issues had. Yes I will be ordering 32 or some. . Adding 100 Ah to my kit. Battery hookup sorta charges high shipping charges I need to think about. Just balance and parrell with my system . BMS / ACTIVE Balance. would be in system. Same brand name is good for me. Does Battery Hook up have Bus Bars or is it DIY ?
Yep as usual SOLD OUT. When ever you guys do these videos the chits gone in hours. I am on Hook ups mailing list . I may get lucky.
Nice! Id LOVE a 300ah or moar at 48v but cant afford it right meow which is a damn shame cause Ill miss out. I may try and get 32 if I can and dont miss the boat.🤞🤪
Yeah I tried getting this vid out like 4 days ago but work and snow removal got in the way🤦♂️ Im on the mailing list also so hope Im around when its sent!🤘
@@AveRage_Joe Yep went 24 here. Close enough to 12 I can work both ways.
Nothin wrong with that!
I miss out on these deals all the time! how do you guys always snag these deals? you just constantly check thier website? every hour?
🤣 You have only missed the first round! The next shipment has not been listed yet so you could potentially still get some. 💥🤘
@@AveRage_Joe nope, LOL, missed the 2nd "shipment" as well. they emailed me and my credit card declined the charge 24 hrs latter they were gone.
I never saw a 2nd listing?? When was it?
@@AveRage_Joe they only sold by the box of 30. and it was about a week ago. they had 100 boxes and they were gone FAST. I do not think they even put on website, just sent everyone an email that said they were interested.
😲 DAMN I wish I would have gotten an email or notified!!!!
How can I get these to South Africa
Thats a great question!
Nice one Joe, you can send me 8 of them.........................................................Booooooooom, Booooooooooooooom
Thanks Man! Is that all you need??? Can I send MOAR🤣🤣🤣💥🤘
You should look into ordering a few from China, I think about 100-280 ah cells making about 1k ah Bank, I'm thinking in a few years start buying some 100ah or so to replace my battery bank, about 1-1.5k ah at 24v, or 8 series bank, 1500ah at 24v would be great,. I think having medium capacity cells is better than very high capacity, because eventually they are going to die, and you will likely loose 1-2, with smaller cells, you can reconfigure, and keep going, although with less capacity, but if you are off grid, keeping the lights on can be important!
Ive been eyeballing some bigger cells for sure. Im kinda over testing 1000s of 18650s. Dont get me wrong. If I had an insulated shed or some other place to house my batteries Id continue to process and use them. With the temps we have here in winter I have to keep them inside. Lifepo4 is the way to go for sure.
@@AveRage_Joe yeah, no doubt, it's ok for projects with a few hundred, but trying to power a house, then knowing you will need more in a couple years, it's kinda depressing!
Go big or go home!
Dude ....can we use this 1c cells for ebike..?
Yeah I dont see why you couldnt!
Great video! Thank you for the info. Have you by chance tested these at a 2C or 3C discharge rate? I see one of the tests you did at 30 amp, slightly above 1C. Curious if the spec sheet is accurate on them handling 3C and if they experience any swelling when discharging at that rate.
Thanks! I have not tested them at 2c or 3c but dont have a 12v inverter. I gave them away a while ago to subscribers🤦♂️😆 If I can find a good way to test at 2-3c I will!
Swelling occures at higher SOC so in normal usage you would slightly compress the batteries to prevent swelling. With my 1c+ test I had zero swelling and I tested uncompressed. Great cells!
At 14:55 you say they're kinda expensive at $155/kWh.
Compared to other _new_ prismatic cells they're a bargain, costing half their competitors.
I bought 128 for a 10kWh addition to my house's battery bank
I should have broken it down. I was refering to $100 or less per kwh for 18650s like many of us had built in the past. You are correct tho!🤘
Does Horace have any spare nuts or he just a bad driver
His nutz were removed lol so Id need to take him to get some as well!!!😂💥
what's 'batteryhookup' 's lowest shipping cost?
I honestly cant say. Probly depends on quantity.
@@AveRage_Joe well, what did your shipping cost as an example? cheapest rate?
Oh my bad, I paid $9.86 shipping for the 4!
@@AveRage_Joe ok, thanks . very reasonable rate.
Yeah pretty normal I think!
Not available ...cant see them at all on the site.
😲😲😲 He must have taken them down. Didnt even list the 2nd shippment yet!
Confusion sets in. How did a 3.6 v cell charge a 12v lead acid battery?
DC-DC conversion of course!
Lol its VOO-DOO magic for sure!🤷♂️ Andy says it all. Dc-dc step up/down.
@@AveRage_Joe Dhoooooooooooooooooooo!
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@@AveRage_Joe I didn't see that in your set up. That's one of my tricks using a Buck or Boost converter to regulate amperage limits. Works most well. I have a few boost converter rated for Chines 20A ( American 10) that I use like that to test stuff like my Nissan modules.
Aye Joe............... I see you went really nuts . I am scratching my nut head because I bought 32 0f them and no nuts. So I may go nuts trying to find some nuts. Fortunately they not arrived yet in my home country. They are still in Miami. In the mean time, I am trying to make bus bars but cannot complete it because I do not know the size of the terminals and all that . I want to get another 32 and make a 48 volt 100AH battery for my 4000w inverter. So I will look to you to learn a bit.
std 6mm nuts!
Yeaahhh. Things got a little.....nutty🤪 lol Yeah I can get some measurements for ya for cutting some busbars.🤘
I want to build a battery to power a 12v trolling motor. Can anyone recommend a BMS for 16 of these cells in a 4s4p 12V 100ah configuration?
Id use a daly!
@@AveRage_Joe Is there a way to hook up every cell to the BMS in a 4s4p config? I know there is a procedure to hook up the 4 batteries that are in series but what about the cells in parallel?
The cells in parallel become "one" cell so no need to watch or keep an eye on every cell. Does that make since?
@@AveRage_Joe Yes, thanks
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Higher cycle life is another pro
YES!!!!! That was ment to be said in the video🤦♂️🤘
These cells sold out faster than a chicken with diarrhea, unfortunately I only purchased 8 of them luckily today as of June 7 2021 they’re back in stock by the case of 24, they are not selling them individually this time around and I didn’t miss out not this time instead of 8 cells I now have 8 cases BOOM!
They just added packs of four cells so you can buy four of them or 24 of them
Awesome! Thanks for the update. Headed over meow!😆🤘
Mine took a couple weeks , but I got alot;)
Makes since! Others are telling me the larger orders take much longer vs my small orders. What are you building🤘
@@AveRage_Joe Golf cart battery
Oh yeah purfect batteries for that FO SHO!!!🤘
@0:14 _* [Manly voice] *_ THAT'S HOW A REAL MAN DRIVES!
_* [extremely small fine print] *_ Disclaimer: This is not how a real man drives... Except AveRage Joe, he can because he is a bad-ass and epic.
Lol! It should say.....eh ehm: All extream driving scenes were filmed in driveway😳🤣🤦♂️