Yeah, this is the best way to chip most of the time. But I play in Oregon where it rains a lot and the grass isn't cut all winter. I had to learn the hands forward Phil Mickelson technique also. If the ball is in deep wet grass and close to the green you need a steep approach and quick exit. Hands forward and staying forward, weight forward, being agressive, and quick turning of hips and trunk upon impact are all key.
I always learn a lot from these lessons. I have learned to try different ways of chipping high and low. Love the content as always! I actually have followed u since Cali next to the trampoline neighbors. Keep it up!
Looks like you are back at Atlanta National Practice Area.. Good suggestion and I was blading it this past week on that very course with some of the thin lies around the green.
Had a idea to get a few of the golf instructors competition where the have 4 teams of 8 players who are high handicap golfers they instruct there team and they compete vs the other team. To see who is the better instructor, that would be a huge hit especially if they do it on UA-cam live. At the end there would be prizes for the winning team, most improved. Longest out. Etc.... anyway I think that would be a blast to get going. Just a thought.
When I practice or on chipping during the game, I airways use my putting grip Aarhus allow me to keep my club shaft straight middle and not that big forward shaft lean
I'm the 60 degree wedge with hands forward guy :) However I will say that I find it quite reliable as all I need to do is strike down. When I try the method you present here that's when I start to hit thin as I find I need to be very accurate with the strike. What am I missing?
The problem with this antiquated technique from the 70's-90's is that it pigeon holes you around the green. It's putting all your eggs in one basket or chip. You can't use it for every finesse wedge shot that's required around the green. Having a more neutral setup and correct use of the designs of the wedge allows your creativity to flow and get's the odds of hitting better shots around the green in your favor. The players that I see still using this technique are 90-120 shooters and this is the only technique they can do without the yips but as soon as they're short sided with a bunker in front or on a severe downhill lie, they're off to the races. You can maybe use this technique for 40% of chip shots and the rest is using the broad side of a hammer to pound in nails. Sure, it kind of works but there's a better way to use that tool. ; )
@@iDjEntertainment what do you mean specifically about "finesse wedge shots"? I do the same thing (hands slightly forward, 60* club, putting stroke) and it seems to work well. Goes straight, reliable contact (no thin or fat), can hit it a variety of distances based of my backswing (five to twenty yards, or further if I club up). I'm definitely a 90-120 shooter, but it's not this part of my game that's holding me back. I think anyway. Thanks for the advice.
finesse wedge is everything around the green within 15 yards of the hole, distance wedge is 20-130. Look up James Sieckman for more on the difference between the two. For the finesse shot, you need to get up and down from everywhere more times than you do not. If you do not and it takes 3 shots, you have to reevaluate your approach. What do you do with short sided shots? What do you do when you have no green to work with or if you're into the grain or playing in Kikuyu grass, or you have uphill or downhill chips? If it's you with your 1 technique, you're shit out of luck because it doesn't apply here. The answer is you use the bounce or the toe of the club. 90-120 shooters really don't know what the bounce is, how it works or how to use it. All in all, it allows you to hit every shot needed around the green to get UP & DOWN. Not up, 2 putt, and down. You're turning your 60 into a 54 / 55 and hitting ball first. It's coming off fast and speed of the ball negates the spin. If you want to shoot in the 80's or 70's like mr short game, you gotta get UP & DOWN. @@mtmills100
@@jeremies3612 Phil Mickelson is not relatable. He’s a white rhino. His “Hinge & Hold” instructional video that he put out in the mid 00’s is the most shit on instructional vid on how to approach the short game by 99% of modern short game gurus. Hinge and hold works for Phil because he’s one of the most talented golfers on earth. That is not you. You have iron covers ;)
I just broke this rule, I put forward shaft lean on the club while chipping! Here was my situation: My approach shot missed the green, a little short and left. It ended in a patch of rough between a bunker and the green. I had about 30 yds to the pin. One last detail, my playing partner hit his ball in the same location (and conditions)! He was about 5 ft further away, so he went first and I went TO SCHOOL on his chip. He put no forward shaft lean on his shot and to me the bounce is not my friend on thick grass. Sure enough the club decelerated rapidly and he got no power. His shot only went 10ft forward (still in the rough). So, I chose the 56 degree club. I gave it a little bit of forward shaft lean. HAH! I BROKE THE RULE! SO THERE! I also went for more angle of attack. I did not expect a follow-through, but kept one swing thought, DON'T LET THE CLUB DECELERATE. Turned out, there was enough grass under the ball to have a follow-through. Hit a nice high chip, which soft landed short of the pin and rolled out about 5 ft pass. From there I was able to make the putt for par. I think Mr. Short Game, the qualifier, should be, NEVER, if you are on the fairway cut...
I was lucky enough to be paired with Mr. Short Game today in a qualifier. He’s as cool in person as he is on UA-cam. And as if you didn’t already know, he’s a stick! I would love to see a 1 v 1 with him and Fat Perez.
I sometimes chip with an 8 iron on very long and very steep uphill pin locations. I was told to keep the ball low/rolling as much as possible in those situations. Does that make sense?
I’ve been using a 60 deg wedge for about a year and it can be really good but most of the time it isn’t. I guess that is how I ended up here. I notice that when I make a bad chip there is usually very little rotation happening.
We need more "No Bueno!" I miss the "No Bueno!" Side question...What about width of the takeaway? Trevino said that if you can touch the wedge head in your backswing, (meaning if you take your trail hand off and can reach the club head), you suck at pitching and chipping. If you can't, you're likely a good chipper and pitcher.
I like this, objective is getting the ball in the hole, stop overthinking and trying to be fancy. If you are not on the green it is close to impossible to lower your score, Tiger said it best’ (KISS) “Keep It Simple Stupid”
Phrase of the month award goes to Mr Short Game....
***Chunking the snot out of it***
Absolutely hilarious, never change Matt 👌🏽
Yeah, this is the best way to chip most of the time. But I play in Oregon where it rains a lot and the grass isn't cut all winter. I had to learn the hands forward Phil Mickelson technique also. If the ball is in deep wet grass and close to the green you need a steep approach and quick exit. Hands forward and staying forward, weight forward, being agressive, and quick turning of hips and trunk upon impact are all key.
Thanks for the tip. Going to try that this weekend.
I always learn a lot from these lessons. I have learned to try different ways of chipping high and low. Love the content as always! I actually have followed u since Cali next to the trampoline neighbors. Keep it up!
The Mack daddy CB and CBX zip core wedges are so good for chipping
Cleveland!! There is no substitute
The Newton’s Cradle analogy is superb. Playing for almost 60 years never heard it.👍
Thank you , i have travel to Chipping . I will practice your lesson .. Thank you Again .
Excellent tip today. Thanks
I use 9 iron from that distance great vid👍👍👍
The metal ball thingy is a Newton's Cradle Matt.
Looks like you are back at Atlanta National Practice Area.. Good suggestion and I was blading it this past week on that very course with some of the thin lies around the green.
This may be sacrilegious...but I have a chipper and use it quite effectively. Sorry, not sorry
Horrors! A chipper!😮
@@lawrencebogar6136 Ha ha!! You should see the looks from my friends when I pull it out😆
I’ve yet to see someone chip badly with a chipper
@@NineEyeRon yep. I have probably knocked 7 to 10 strokes off my game since getting one
I want to try a chipper so bad
Thank you for that video. I needed that .😊
You should come play Redmont Country Club in Red Bay Alabama!
Had a idea to get a few of the golf instructors competition where the have 4 teams of 8 players who are high handicap golfers they instruct there team and they compete vs the other team. To see who is the better instructor, that would be a huge hit especially if they do it on UA-cam live. At the end there would be prizes for the winning team, most improved. Longest out. Etc.... anyway I think that would be a blast to get going. Just a thought.
Mickelson said to keep hands forward
Great content ❤
Great advice
Love this video Matt
Two words. Simply Awesome.
When I practice or on chipping during the game, I airways use my putting grip Aarhus allow me to keep my club shaft straight middle and not that big forward shaft lean
Great video sir.
I'm the 60 degree wedge with hands forward guy :) However I will say that I find it quite reliable as all I need to do is strike down. When I try the method you present here that's when I start to hit thin as I find I need to be very accurate with the strike. What am I missing?
The problem with this antiquated technique from the 70's-90's is that it pigeon holes you around the green. It's putting all your eggs in one basket or chip. You can't use it for every finesse wedge shot that's required around the green. Having a more neutral setup and correct use of the designs of the wedge allows your creativity to flow and get's the odds of hitting better shots around the green in your favor. The players that I see still using this technique are 90-120 shooters and this is the only technique they can do without the yips but as soon as they're short sided with a bunker in front or on a severe downhill lie, they're off to the races. You can maybe use this technique for 40% of chip shots and the rest is using the broad side of a hammer to pound in nails. Sure, it kind of works but there's a better way to use that tool. ; )
@@iDjEntertainment what do you mean specifically about "finesse wedge shots"? I do the same thing (hands slightly forward, 60* club, putting stroke) and it seems to work well. Goes straight, reliable contact (no thin or fat), can hit it a variety of distances based of my backswing (five to twenty yards, or further if I club up). I'm definitely a 90-120 shooter, but it's not this part of my game that's holding me back. I think anyway. Thanks for the advice.
finesse wedge is everything around the green within 15 yards of the hole, distance wedge is 20-130. Look up James Sieckman for more on the difference between the two. For the finesse shot, you need to get up and down from everywhere more times than you do not. If you do not and it takes 3 shots, you have to reevaluate your approach. What do you do with short sided shots? What do you do when you have no green to work with or if you're into the grain or playing in Kikuyu grass, or you have uphill or downhill chips? If it's you with your 1 technique, you're shit out of luck because it doesn't apply here. The answer is you use the bounce or the toe of the club. 90-120 shooters really don't know what the bounce is, how it works or how to use it. All in all, it allows you to hit every shot needed around the green to get UP & DOWN. Not up, 2 putt, and down. You're turning your 60 into a 54 / 55 and hitting ball first. It's coming off fast and speed of the ball negates the spin. If you want to shoot in the 80's or 70's like mr short game, you gotta get UP & DOWN. @@mtmills100
Agree. Phil Mickelson has shaft lean and is one of the best short game players ever!
@@jeremies3612 Phil Mickelson is not relatable. He’s a white rhino. His “Hinge & Hold” instructional video that he put out in the mid 00’s is the most shit on instructional vid on how to approach the short game by 99% of modern short game gurus. Hinge and hold works for Phil because he’s one of the most talented golfers on earth. That is not you. You have iron covers ;)
I just broke this rule, I put forward shaft lean on the club while chipping! Here was my situation: My approach shot missed the green, a little short and left. It ended in a patch of rough between a bunker and the green. I had about 30 yds to the pin. One last detail, my playing partner hit his ball in the same location (and conditions)! He was about 5 ft further away, so he went first and I went TO SCHOOL on his chip. He put no forward shaft lean on his shot and to me the bounce is not my friend on thick grass. Sure enough the club decelerated rapidly and he got no power. His shot only went 10ft forward (still in the rough).
So, I chose the 56 degree club. I gave it a little bit of forward shaft lean. HAH! I BROKE THE RULE! SO THERE! I also went for more angle of attack. I did not expect a follow-through, but kept one swing thought, DON'T LET THE CLUB DECELERATE. Turned out, there was enough grass under the ball to have a follow-through. Hit a nice high chip, which soft landed short of the pin and rolled out about 5 ft pass. From there I was able to make the putt for par.
I think Mr. Short Game, the qualifier, should be, NEVER, if you are on the fairway cut...
you should play at shamrock hills mi
I was lucky enough to be paired with Mr. Short Game today in a qualifier. He’s as cool in person as he is on UA-cam. And as if you didn’t already know, he’s a stick! I would love to see a 1 v 1 with him and Fat Perez.
I sometimes chip with an 8 iron on very long and very steep uphill pin locations. I was told to keep the ball low/rolling as much as possible in those situations. Does that make sense?
I use my 9 sometimes from 15 feet out. It’s basically a chipper without the shame of having to pull out a chipper 😂
Margin for error is BIG. Not “small
I’ve been using a 60 deg wedge for about a year and it can be really good but most of the time it isn’t. I guess that is how I ended up here. I notice that when I make a bad chip there is usually very little rotation happening.
I’ve got good technique but yips. Good practice, lift or flip when hitting shot. Any tips to fix my brain?
What's your weight distribution?
As a general rule, what ratio flight to roll do you recommend with the PW ?
Depends on where you locate the ball. But generally 1:1
Use the rule of 12 to figure it out...
Where you at? Looks like Atlanta National.
It is
Seems to me that your third tip can be good for every shot. What do you think about it?
No. For all your other shots, you want the hips turning before impact
“It doesn’t make any sense” 😂😂😂
Newton's Cradle 🙂
We need more "No Bueno!" I miss the "No Bueno!" Side question...What about width of the takeaway? Trevino said that if you can touch the wedge head in your backswing, (meaning if you take your trail hand off and can reach the club head), you suck at pitching and chipping. If you can't, you're likely a good chipper and pitcher.
So one of the best short game players ever, Phil Mickelson, was wrong about shaft lean in chipping?😂
I had that same thought.I watched Phils short game and he definitely has hands forward.
I practice chip so good before the round starts but then when it matters I become a mess lol.
I like this, objective is getting the ball in the hole, stop overthinking and trying to be fancy. If you are not on the green it is close to impossible to lower your score, Tiger said it best’ (KISS) “Keep It Simple Stupid”
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Tick tock.
Why are all videos for chipping from a clean lie? Please show a video from the rough.